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>> he's not a war hero. he's a war hero because he was captured. >> is this the moment that turned the tide for trump. did he go too far in slamming john mccain and could this be the beginning of the end for the trump candidacy? >> new this morning i want to share with you what we're learning about the gunman in the deadly shooting in chattanooga. the family of the shooter is revealing some things about their son as well as offering their sympathies to the families of those who were killed.
we are also learning by the way new details about the hours just before abdulazeez's rampage. he sent a text message to a friend. that message linked to islamic verse. w who so ever shows enmity to a friend of mine -- both of the long guns were legally acquired by abdulazeez. the handgun was in his name. >> let's talk about these latest developments. i want your response to this quote, islamic text. who so shows enmity to a friend
of mine then i have declared war against them. >> is it possibly an issue to do the air strikes against isis fighters in iraq and syria? is there some subtext that we're not aware of? it's likely this individual was groomed. i don't believe he was acting entirely on his own. by there are individuals in the virtual sphere who are guiding him and provoking him. >> we're learn about the reported depression. does this thing this investigation for you dramatically? >> i think the investigators are finding out these facts about
what he posted and who he was in communication with. i think there's more to learn on that. even if he was radicalized by what he didn't like about u.s. policy overseas and has declared the u.s. government or military his enemy, it still doesn't necessarily mean direct operational control by somebody in isis. it still could be that he did radicalize himself. at this point, we don't know that. as far as his depression, i think mental health professionals would not be happy with what the parents are saying, well, he was depressed and that's why he became a killer. because people who are depressed don't necessarily become
psychopathic killers. >> it said he was struggling with how to balance his faith with the demand of his work, serving bacon to customers. we know that muslims don't consume bacon. how does it that someone dealing with those challenges get to that point? >> a lot of people have difficulties and challenges but that doesn't result in committing this terrible act of terrorism. these individuals are sometimes looking for simple answers, looking for a mission or a purpose. they are exploited or groomed and turned into these vicious killers. i think the online grooming scenario does need to be looked
at a lot more. they buy into the isis narrative all too quickly, they don't ask questions. the senior member of isis issued a message. people then react instaninstant. he's the one who called to make the month of ramadan a very bloody one. >> any indication this was planned for some time? >> just the manner of which he obtained the weapons and collected them and ammunition, that would at least tell you something was on his mind from the time he was acquiring the fire power to carry out the attack.
you would know that during a weekday, middle of the day somebody is going to be in those various offices conducting business on behalf of the u.s. military. i think the acquisition of the fire pour to me is for sure when he's starting to think about carrying out an attack. and the weapons he's buying are not for hinting or recreation, those are weapons of war. assault weapons are designed to be a war weapon. >> thank you both. in chattanooga today the fbi is continuing to process multiple crime scenes. what is happening there this morning, sarah? >> reporter: as grief here turns
into calls for action across the country, several states changing their rules on how national guard recruitment centers are kept secure. petit officer randall smith's name is added to the makeshift memorial. he was the fifth service member to die at the hands of gunman mohammad youssuf abdulazeez. investigators still trying to find a motive. isis and other terror organizations have long called for attacks on military targets like these. >> going after, as i say, military targets in the u.s. homeland, they want nothing more than that. >> critics say military sites
like these are easy targets because service members here aren't armed. >> we have to be allowed to fight with both our hand and not one behind our back. arm our military personal. we have the training. it's obvious that the war is now on our home soil. >> smith and four marines were shot and killed at the naval service center about seven miles from this recruiting office. a veteran who often works with the recruiters in this office said he believes the deadly shooting could have been stopped if the recruiters were armed. >> they could have crawled out the back door and flanked the parking lot and countered the situation. >> you think they would have
been able to stop him here before he got anywhere else. >> yes. that's what we're trained to defend. >> reporter: if you have the proper tools? >> yes. >> reporter: several states have called for recruiting offices like this one to be armed. other states, alabama, new york and illinois also stepping up security. important to member those executive orders only apply to national guard recruiting offices like here and not to those federal offices where the men died. donald trump is at it again, his latest target former p.o.w. john mccain. >> he's not a war hero.
he's a war hero because he was captured. >> could this be the turning point for the trump candidacy? plus investigators say they've got their biggest lead yet in the hunt for "el chapo." but are they any closer to capturing him? >> also the frightening pictures. an update on what's being zone to contain these flames.
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deposition from a decade old civil lawsuit under wraps. >> the "new york times" obtained a copy. keep in mind more than 25 people have accused cosby of drugging and sexual assaulting them. in this deposition cosby contends that the sex and drug taking for consensual. we're going to have a whole lot more hon thon this story in our hour. "el chapo" escaped from a maximum security prison in mexico last weekend. his real name is joaquin guzman. polo sandoval has the details zplrgets mexic. >> reporter: mexican authorities are following the best leads
they have yet. investigators say he may have had access to the prison floor plan at some point. this comes as seven employees are arrested. investigators believe guzman had access to not only the floor plans but also a gps device. while this does sound fairly out landish,s the not for someone who had resources on the outside. officials have arrested 431 people allegedly linked to isis and foiled several terror plots. the suspects are accused of
carrying out attacks on two mosques earlier this year. the arrests happened over the past few weeks. >> we have to talk about iraq because we have new details on a deadly isis attack near baghdad. 120 are dead, 140 others are wounded, this after a suicide bomber blew up an ice truck in a crowded market. moneys of people had been out shopping on this market on the eve of the holiday eid al fitr. we know that officials say that the men lured people to this truck by promising cheap ice. what else have you learned? >> reporter: a truly devastating attack if you look at how this bomber managed to lure people over. it was a time of celebration on friday evening the start of eid
al fitr holiday marking the end of ramadan. this is a time when you see markets packed. temperatures are over 120 degrees and it is because of that heat this bomber managed to lure people over. he was selling ice at lower prices, we hear, from what market prices are. people are desperate for relief from the heat. hundreds of people gathered around that truck to try and buy that's before the comer detonated a lot of explosives that left a big crater there. 120 killed, more than 140 wounded. these are mostly civilians. there are many children. a lot of families out shopping. a devastating attack. while we have seen isis carry out so many atrocities over the past year, this is a very
different kind of tactic, something we used to see in the dark days of the violence in iraq in 2005 and 2007 carried out isis's predecessor al qaeda in iraq. we've seen mass killings, beheadings, all kinds of atrocities, but this kind of attack, quite rare, raising a lot of concern about if we're going to be seeing more of this sort of attack taking place in iraq. donald trump now creating some outrage, genuine outrage here this time for saying former p.o.w., senator john mccain is no war hero. plus, the confederate flag still causing tension in south carolina.
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seen. five people are facing charges after this heated exchange between the kkk and members of the new black panther party. the two groups clashed outside of the south carolina state capital yesterday. the kkk were rallying in protest of south carolina removing the rebel flag from the state house grounds. crews trying to contain a raging wildfire in southern california are facing some enemies here, drones. officials say fliers of hobby drones hovered over the fire on friday and that declayed helicopters from dumping water on the fire that torched cars as panicked drivers fled on foot. flood waters there. they look pretty furious? into a phoenix neighborhood as
the storm dumped three inches of rain. when you're in the desert, that is a huge amount of rain. homes and buildings were damaged and vehicles were simply swept away. no reports of any injuries. so donald trump obviously over the last couple of weeks has created a firestorm about his comments about mexican immigrants. did he go too far in questioning senator john mccain's war hero status and is this a turning point for his campaign? plus, did martin o'malley make a mistake by telling audiences that all lives matter when discussing police violence against african americans. and should he apologize? those conversations coming up.
. donald trump issic nieting another firestorm this morning. the 2016 presidential candidate was speaking at a summit in iowa when he questioned whether senator john mccain is a war hero. and hopefuls on both side of the aisle are condemning those remarks. joining us now with more on the fallout is cnn's mark preston. give us a broader picture of what the overall response was in the room when trump made those comments and exactly what he said here. >> reporter: you couldn't
predict less than 24 hours ago that donald trump is in full damage control at this point. but donald trump who talks off the cuff says that he likes to tell it like it is, seems to have gone too far. speaking at a meeting of social conservatives here in iowa, attack eed john mccain. >> he's not a war hero. he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, i hate to tell you. i believe perhaps he's a war hero. >> reporter: so there you have donald trump who has feuded with john mccain often in the past few months criticizing him saying he's not a war hero. just a short time later donald trump tried to correct that, fix that a little bit. however, it doesn't seem to have
worked. let's hear what donald trump had to say. >> if a person is captured they're a hero as far as i'm concerned. unless they're a traitor like bergdahl. he's no hero. i don't like the job that john mccain is doing in the senate because he's not taking care of our veterans. >> reporter: trump trying to justify his comments about mccain. i have to tell you right now there's no question donald trump's campaign at the top of the polls yesterday is in now full damage control. >> it appears he is now trying to clean that up and shift it to another issue from his service in the military to his service in the senate. i wonder if we're going to see something we have not seen for the next couple of weeks, a donald trump on the defensive. remember he doubled down on those comments about mexican
immigrants. and this clean-up job not appearing to work here. >> reporter: no. not only did he come out to the cameras after he made those remarks, he put out a statement on social media, even went so far as to get a fellow veteran to come out and defend donald trump for making those comments. trump, who's not necessarily shy to the media, will he now be a little more reserved in the next couple days. i think that will be telling about what will happen with his campaign as we move forward. >> let's listen to whatsoever gop candidates are saying. >> as an individual who's worn the uniform of this country i was highly offended by what donald trump said about john mccain about his years of sacrifice in a dirty, dingy, terrible prison in north vietnam. donald trump owes every american
veteran and in particular john mccain an apology. >> he crossed a line today that will offend most everyone that i know. and in my view, the democratic process is going to lead to him hearing what he is so fond of saying, you're fired. >> let's bring in political anchor for new york 1 news. is this the turning point? is this the beginning of the end of this spike for donald trump? >> well, it's funny, victor. a lot of commentators are a little too hopeful this is going to somehow cause the collapse of donald trump. as far as i can tell the people who support him are not supporting him because what he says is logical or fair or kind or generous. they're coming from a very different place. and i'd be very surprised if
people suddenly decided to walk away from him. we have to keep in mind of course that he's leading in the polls. but that's around 18% of the republican electorate at this point that are talking to pollsters. it's both a floor and a ceiling for him. he's not going to back down. that's just not his style. i don't think the people who are supporting him are supporting him because he's a perfect politician. it's really the opposite. the gaffes are kind of biaked i among his supporters. i don't see the support dwindling away just because of this remark. >> let's talk about something that happened at an event between bernie sanders and martin o'malley. protesters affiliated with the black lives movement took over the town hall where the governor
was speaking. you can see the shouting here. this is what martin o'malley said. listen. >> every life matters and that is why this issue is so important. black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter. black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. >> so you heard him say there, black lives matter, white lives matter. boos. and then he said it again. he later apologized for that. explain what we're seeing here and what you think about this apology for this statement. >> what you see there is someone who is aly little removed from what's been happening in his hometown of baltimore. when they say black lives
matter, they're talking about a very particular movement with a particular history that's arguing for better or fairer treatment of a minority in this country. to broaden it out and say the rights of the minority have to be protected and the rights of the majority too. that's mush. the booing was letting him know that's mush. that's not what we're talking about. if he wants to talk to that sector of the democratic electorate -- and it's not entirely clear that he does. these are overwhelmingly white states. i'm not sure where this is going to go but martin o'malley i think needs to go back to his briefing notes. >> the people in that room at that event told cnn they agreed
with what the protesters came in and their point of view but they don't really agree with the way in which they did it. the protesters chanted, if i die in police custody, burn everything down. that's the only way you mfers like to listen. >> and then they got angry. >> what's the lesson here for o'malley and for other candidates? >> well, to be fair to martin o'malley, bernie sanders followed him on stage and as well had a tough time with that audience. and at one point it looked like bernie sanders almost walked off stage. it was a very frustrating moment i think for both of those candidates on stage. but to this point it shows how explosive this issue is. when you have folks like that who are going to go in and interrupt an event like that,
especially seeing those are the candidates on stage who are going to be supporters of your cause, it shows you how explosive this is and it is going to be an issue that permeates not only the prior but as we head into the general election. >> of course we want to know what you think about donald trump, about what happened there with the former governor martin o'malley. tweet us or go to our facebook page to share your thoughts. rescue workers say and i'm quoting here, one blade swipe away from a deadly injure. how the guy survived after falling into a meat grinder. here's the question, is the favre really the best quarterback ever? >> that's a great question.
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in iraq a suicide bomber drive an ice truck into a market pretending to sell ice at a discount. and as people crowded around, blew up the truck, killing at least 120 people. 140 others were injured. iraqi officials are calling the deadly blast isis's worst single bombing attack on a target in a single count. let's talk about it with lieutenant colonel bob mcginnis. we know that'd al fitt eid al f holiday for muslims.
what do you make of the way isis seems to be able to evolutionize its attacks? >> 95 degrees on friday. they took advantage of vulnerable people in a marketplace. they go in there willing to sell ice at a discount. hundreds of people gathered around and then they exploded this giant bomb. isis is in a sectarian war. they're doing everything they can to bring bloodshed to the shia population of iraq. they've made it very clear of their larger goals of dominating that particular country. they've already claimed iraq as part of the califate. so i'm not surprised. we've seen this sort of the behavior certainly in syria and we're beginning to see it elsewhere. it's something that as general john allen, the president's envoy in that part of the world
has said, this is going to be a generational war. unfortunately these sorts of tragedies may reoccur. we just have to be persistent and hopefully the iraqi security forces will be able to contain and defeat these particular animals. >> we've heard an estimate of 10 to 20 years it's going to take for this war. a year ago their allies said, hey, we're going to destroy isis. what do you make of the progress isis has made and how strong do you believe them to be? >> the general who is the commander of the special operations command said, look, they are being successful at recruiting from all over the world. their numbers haven't dramatically increased. it seems as if ef time we kill some, they're replenishing from elsewhere. their numbers may not be as high
as 40,000. but they're dead-enders. they're willing to die for their particular cause. they tribute that to their claim of califate and religious calling. what we are going to see i think in the coming months is whether or not they're able to defeat assad in damascus. do they take other damascus or do they share that? how effective is our air campaign with our 60 allies going to continue to be? we've been fairly effective, but i think the linchpin is whether or not we're going to train enough syrian rebels to fight. are the iraqi security forces going to be able to take the fight all the way up to mosul and recapture that country? those are questions yet to be answered. general dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs, made it very
clear, at this point we don't see service member numbers increasing dramatically in the near future. it really depends on the ground forces and those ground forces are indij yogenousindigenous. and we continue to provide support from the air. new this morning, some soft baltimore police officers charged in the death of freddie gray have filed to have their statements thrown out of court. our legal expert weighs in on why and whether it's a good defense.
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. new this morning, three officers charged in the death of freddie gray want their statements they made to investigators tossed out. >> the baltimore sun is reporting lawyers for the officers say their clients made statements under duress because they feared their answers could cost them their jobs. >> danny, i wanted to start with two of the officers who say they believed they were speaking as witnesses when questioned and not suspects. on that basis could their statements be tossed out? >> i haven't read the actual motions, but what i suspect is going on here is what has come to be known as a garrity statement. typically police officers are not your usual witnesses. as witnesses they may have information about a case. but as citizens they would not be compelled to come in and talk to the police and give a statement. on the other hand, as police
officers, as public employees, the very nature of their job is crime investigation and a big part of what they do is write down factual statements about what happened. so what does a police officer do when those two world's collide and he may be compelled to give a statement as part of his job that may be incriminating as a citizen. and the supreme court said these garrity statements, coming from a case of garrity v. new jersey, said yes they may be compelled under threat of losing their job to give a statement. but that statement may not later be used against them. so that balances outs our need for police officers to give statements about criminal or noncriminal events against their protections as citizens just like everybody else under the constitution. >> a third officer says he wasn't advised of his miranda rights before giving a
statement. does that bolster the argument that the officer did believe he was being asked for his statement as a witness? >> for any person once an interview matures into what is called an interrogation, once that officer believed he was a suspect and would soon be charged, then he like everybody else has fifth amendment protections. and it's true that miranda is not itself a constitutional rule, but rather a protection. the supreme court used this wort word, a prophylactic to guard against someone's constitutional rights. if he gave those statements and was not mirandized, who would understand his rights more than a police officer who gives those very same miranda warnings and read them off the back of a card. he should be aware.
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alive after falling into an industrial meat grinder. thankfully his screams alerted a coworker who shut off the machine moments before its blades could crush him. he was in the grinder trying to get some meat that was stuck but it got a hold of his coat and pulled him in. he's okay. my goodness. look at this. more than 67,000 green bay packers fans. they really showered brett favre with love. favre's induction into the hall of fame last night. you see that, quarterback shedding a few tiears. he is the franchise leader in passing yards, pass completions and passing touchdowns. is he the best quarterback of all time? that's the question. >> we need to ask an expert about that, somebody who maybe played against him. i think maybe we know someone.
>> nine year nfl veteran here. what do you say? >> let's have a little fun this morning. i can tell you just seeing him across the field there and being on the same field with him, he has that fervor and that flare. he can certainly put his name in the hat. certainly 67,000 people in green bay think he could be in consideration. how about peyton manning, though? one super bowl title, five mvp trophies, a slew of passing records, including most passing touchdowns. how about tom brady, four super bowl rings, three super bowl mvp trophies, holding every passing record. don't forget about some of the old school, though. joe montana. you could go back to johnny unitas. who is the greatest quarterback of all time?
love to use your comments later in the show. >> thank you, troy. and thank you so much for sharing your time with us this morning. next hour of "new day" starts right now. bill cosby in his own words, the new court documents describing his sexual pursuits, the money, the prescription drugs and hiding it all from his wife. we have pretty shocking testimony. sorrow from the family of the chattanooga footer. for the first time mohammad youssuf abdulazeez's family comes forward. as we learn more about the shooter's state of mind even hours before the first gunshots. and donald trump igniting a new firestorm by taking aim at the senator he once supported. he's not questioning whether or not. he's straight out saying john mccain is not a war hero. so grateful to have your