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edition, but our sources are going on all the time online. including a controversial story publish and retracted by gawker. you will see my interviewer about the move towards streaming. we will see you back here next sunday at 11:00 a.m. if you can't join us live, set your dvr. state of the union starts now. >> donald trump's explosive new comments angering war heros and fellow republicans. is this the tipping point some have been hoping for. we will ask marco rubio in an exclusive interview. defending the deal. >> you will hear a lot of dishonest arguments. >> swinging for his historic agreement. is congress set on killing him?
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and another republican joins the race to the white house. governor scott walker hits the trail in a winnebago. is he ready for a bumpy ride? >> you are not really answering. >> the best political team in television will be here to break it down. >> good morning, everyone. i'm jake tapper in washington, d.c. the state of the union is all a twitter. republicans and veterans buzzing over donald trump's latest comments questioning john mccain's 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in vietnam. >> john mccain said trump makes my life difficult. he had 15,000 crazies show up. i said they were not crazy. they were great americans. he lost. he let us down. i never liked him as much after
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that. i don't like losers. let me get to him. he is not a war hero. >> 5 and a half years. >> he's a war hero that was captured. i like people that weren't captured. he's a war hero because he was captured. >> critics are piling on, especially in the republican establishment who would like to see trump out of the race. of course his rivals, rick perry. he should immediately withdraw from the race. >> enough with the slanderous attacks. there is noplace in the party or contry for comments who disparage those who served honorably. will this be the moment that slows his rise in the polls? >> joining us now is marco rubio. thank you so much for joining us. i know you heard the comments
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from donald trump. governor perry said they disqualify him to be the commander in chief, do you agree? >> doi. john mccain clearly is a war hero and a great man, but an insult to all men and women who served us in uniform who have been captured in battle. this makes the assumption that somehow if you are captured, you are less worthy than someone who isn't? it's not just absurd, it's offensive and ridiculous and i think it's a disqualifier. >> some democrats criticized you and republican candidates for not speaking out more quickly about undocumented immigrants and wonder why the firestorm about mccain and not mexicans. >> we have to remember this was a man who spent his life saying outrageous things. people kind of said ignore it
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and move on and it will go away. this is what he does for a living. he needs to be a more covered candidate and people pay more attention to him. it required people to be more forceful. not only did i say what he said about mexicans, it's offensive. it's not true and also offensive. of course it's offensive about john mccain and inaccurate, but offensive to all pows and especially those who served time and who are worthy of our admiration and respect. >> let's discuss the deal president obama announced to try to get nuclear ambitions. scott walker said he would rip up the deal on day one. he said the next president would have to consult with the cabinet. what would president marco rubio do? >> i think what people have to understand is the american
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portion, the u.s. portion of the sanctions were passed by congress and they are in the law today. the way the president will lift that is through the use of a security waiver. the next president of the united states simply has to undo the use of the waiver and the sanctions necessary place and they would be reinstated. you don't need a cabinet fully stormed to do that. in fact, i'm telling everyone if i'm elected president, we will not use the waiver to hold back sanctions, especially not as a result of this deal. >> the deal as you point out, lots of people can poke holes in it and point out flaws. the obama administration said what's the alternative. they argue that this deal and the sanctions depend on international cooperation and the russians and chinese were already talking about getting rid of sanctions. is it not possible that this is the best deal any american
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president could have gotten? >> i don't think that's true. i think that the sanctions were forcing iran to the table. they should have asked for a lot more. this deal violates and promises what they made on multiple fronts. it is an inspection process that will require arbitration over a 24-day period or longer. it actually doesn't have a snap back provision. if in fact sanctions are reimposed because they violate the coninstructs, they get to stay. it will only be sanctioned on the future and doesn't have a real snap back provision. it also by the way requires us to help iran technically, economically and develop themselves as a country and become a stronger power. that undermines our relationship with arab allies and the state of israel and we can spend all
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day going through the different dynamics and how it doesn't go far enough and guarantees that there will be an arms race in the mideast. >> what would he do if allies didn't agree it. it sounds like the chinese and russians were taking. would you impose sanctions on china or india for not sanctioning iran? >> i would not call china and russia allies and our foreign policy as a nation is not subject to what china or russia wants to do or anybody wants to do. we have our own foreign policy that needs to be in the security interest of the united states. i would never enter this negotiation that iran would stop activities and stop capabilities and sponsoring terrorism. none of these conditions have been met. $150 billion is going to be delivered to the iranian regime
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that they will use a substantial portion of to help assad and help them carry out all sorts of terrorist activities this to a government that has the blood of over 1,000 service men in their hands because they were building the ieds less than a decade ago. >> let's go to another point of policy. tomorrow, the cuban embassy is going to open as part of president obama's efforts to normalizests. you called president obama's policy a victory for oppression. would they shut down the cuban embassy? >> i would end that until such time as they held the democratic opening in cuba and allowed people to organize the parties and have freedom of the press and express and in fact all these conditions and the cuban democracy act, the president is
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in his opening and violating existing law and he is ignoring existing law and there a host with my administration would have normal relations with cuba. that would return the americans to justice and have outline and also require an ending of the intelligence facility inside of cuba by both the russians and the chinese that use them to spy against the american facilities in the southeast united states. >> so i am assuming amidst all that, the cuban embassy in washington would be shut down? >> 245i had an intersection there for years and that will continue. other than the parties being better attended, i'm not sure what the difference will be dmeapt this recognition sends a message to dissidents and others that the united states accepts the cuban form of government as a legitimate government.
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i do not. i believe the people deserve what everyone else in the western hemisphere has. democracy. >> i know this might be awkward because you just defended him strongly, but senator john mccain had not so nice words for you with a recent interview and you worked in the senate, but when asked about your leadership style, he licked his finger, held it up in the air and laughed. he said red,white,and bluo backed away from it. i wanted to give an opportunity to back away from it. >> i warned the people to go back and see the record. if this bill is not stronger, it will go nowhere. that's how it played out. as a result we made no progress. i warned everybody about that. every time i warned people about that, i would unravel the process. there was no way this bill would pass unless they were clear and
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stronger. they were not. today we have less votes than we did two years ago. that's why while i continue to want to move forward, i know that the only way we can move forward is to first secure our borders and prevent visa overstays and have any verified system. only after that can we do the other things it. modernize the legalization system and deal with those here for a long time in a reasonable and responsible way. >> let's talk about people who have been here for a long time. i want to play a 86 exchange with a voter from new hampshire. >> do you support a path for citizenship for immigrants in the united states, but here illegally. >> doi, but we have two things. >> securing the border and the e verify system. that's still your system? a path to citizenship when the things are taken care of? >> i said is if all we can is a
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work permit, that's better than now. you have to understand what a path to citizenship is. before you can be a citizen, you have to be a permanent resident. that mean if means a green card for three to five years. if you violated the laws, should you not be allowed to apply for a green card for at least ten years. when you apply, you should have to do it through the regular normal process and not a special process created for you. it could take a long time for someone to apply for citizenship, but i think that's a fairway to do it. it should not be cheaper or faster to be a citizen to come here illegally. it's my opinion and i understand some people disagree that you don't want millions of people permanently living in this country who can never become americans. if the best we can do is to stop at the green card or the work specialty process, that's person what we have now. >> there seems to be a big chasm
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over the economic policy. secretary of state hillary clinton took on the sharing economy such as uber and lyft that use contractors and not employees. in your book, you have a chapter entitled making american safe. what's wrong with her push to encourage couples like this to offer benefits? >> she is trying to apply 20th century constricts to a 21st century industry. we face this over and over again. we are trying to regulate internet the way we regulated telephones 2o years ago. you cannot regulate 21st century industry with 20th century ideas. the pace is too quick. if i explained to you what uber was five years ago, impossible. the pace of change is so fast
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that the ability of government to keep up with it can't. her take on lyft and uber and these things is a perfect example of someone who is trapped in the past and cannot understand how much the world is changing and how much it's going to change in the years to come economically. >> marco rubio, thanks so much. >> president obama announced his landmark nuclear deal with iran and does not include bringing hostages home. why not? i will ask the secretary of state, john kerry, next. ious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?
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>> iran's supreme leader calls it a victory for iran. he will not sue the critics in america or the allies such as saudi arabia or israel as president obama faces a tough battle on capitol hill to defend the deal. secretary of state john kerry insists there is simply no viable alternative. >> it was just a few days ago that the chairman of the joint chiefs testified before congress that lifting the ballistic
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missile or embarko from iran that lifting it would be a horrible idea within the same context of testimony that iran killed an estimated 500 americans. why is lifting embargo part of the steal? >> it has eight years out of the ten-year component. we have other resolutions and mechanisms for holding iran accountable on missiles. the simple reality is this un process that started the sanctions to be put in the first place contemplated the lifting of all sections when iran lived up to obligations. if they found in x number of years they lived up to this, all the sanctions would be gone. we succeeded against three
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countries what didn't think they should do anything. we have a lot of measures and the united states has the ability to take action unilaterally or otherwise with respect to other activities. >> i'm confused about this because when i interviewed you in april and i asked about the four americans being held in iran against their will, that we know of and 1 that we don't know what happened to. you said the following. >> i wanted to emphasize this was intentionally restricted and the nuclear bomb issue off the table we hope for a long time has other implications. for example, things like arms embargoes and sanctions, those stay in place and focused on the nuclear issues. >> that doesn't seem to have been what happened. >> the part of the agreement that is critical is that which allows us to prevent a weapon and to have visibility into the activity in this direction.
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and with the americans unjustly held or missing and again, the secretary and this was always raised with an area of considerable focus. >> when i asked you about it, they said this is just focused on the nuclear issue. we are not dealing with anything else, including hostages and arms embargoes. the iranians got to include something that was extraneous and we did not when it came to our hostages. >> i will defer to john, but the arms embargo is something that was directly tied to the nuclear performance. >> it was already in there. the arms embargo and the missile were put in when 1929 resolution was passed. >> what do you say when you hear that the long time former ambassador from saudi arabia
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said that this deal will wreak havoc in the mideast. there a lot of countries, sunni countries and israel is very worried that this is actually a bad deal for peace. >> we disagree with them very, very much. i disagree with him. i met with the foreign minster of saudi arabia who said on television that if they wanted a deal and if the deal does the things and they listed things the deal does, they would feel comfortable with it. the fact is that the real fear of that region should be that you don't have the deal. if congress doesn't pass us or kill this we have no inspections and no sanctions. we have noability to negotiate because i assure you the ayatollah and the united states arbitrarily and unilaterally kills this. they will feel free to go through the very thing this prevents.
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>> ones who wanted to go through this. they say the best case scenario is over the next 15 years with the $100 billion from the money that will no longer be covered, they will be closer to the capacity to build a nuclear weapon with the $100 billion they will have after sanctions are lifted. they will have done it under the guides of international law. the reason that's not accurate is we don't have the inspections. before the agree, guess what. iran had 12,000 kilograms of highly enrichd uranium and that's enough for 10 to 12 bonds. they had it. that's what barack obama was dealt as a hand when he came in.
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19,000 centrifuges already spinning and the country that mastered and was threshold in the sense that they are only two months away from break out. we are expanding that from the two months to one year for ten years and longer. and we have lifetime inspection adherence to the iaea and advanced protocol. they are uranium to milling and gas and centrifuge to waste. that's unprecedented. we would not have that without disagreement. >> the last time i saw you, i asked if youinklings of getting back in the campaign. >> zero. i have a great job. >> that's as close as it gets. thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> when we come back, the newest candidate, governor scott walker
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wisconsin governor scott walker entered the presidential race and at the top of the polls in neighboring iowa, the first caucus state where his mid-western roots and conservative position seem to be resonating. he crisscrossed the hawk eye state in a winnebago with dana in tow. >> i was not invited on the rv. he was racing between stops in iowa and i asked him about his comment that he would tear up the nuclear deal on day one of
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the presidency and whether that's realistic. would you be willing to go ahead and do away with this deal and increase sanctions even if all the other allies around were opposed to that? >> yes. i think that's that bad of a deal. it's bad for the region. it's not just a starting, but it will accelerate the nuclear arms race and it's a powering iran to do what they will do by lifting the sanctions and not only emboldens the problems we have in terms of nuclear infrastructure, but this is the sponsor of terrorism. >> they can't lead in a vacuum. >> we would not want to. our intention would not be to do it alone. not just to e instate. sanction, but to get out of there. i think if america would lead and make the case as to why the sanctions are needed and why we need to pe sigz that, we would
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get that. >> these are so beneficial and so effective. the whole world joined in. they would say already, we can still trade with everybody else. it wouldn't really work, would it? >> there is fundamental parts related to the united states. the united states put in sanctions that would have an impact. they have to consider what impact they would have on relations that they do with iran and what that would impact. >> earlier you said the boy scouts should keep the ban on leaders because the policy protected children and advanced the values and the campaign clarified to say it was protecting the scouts from the political and immediate discussion about that. i'm having trouble understanding. what is your position? >> i'm not talking about personal protection. i'm talking about for me the reason i have a problem with it
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is it pulls scouting into a larger debate as opposed to say scouting is about camping and citizenship and service award instead of pulling the other issues out there. i hope that they can stay focused. that's all. >> should there be a ban on allowing gay men to be scout leaders? >> that's up to the people who run the boy scouts. thing i find unique is people ask me a question, i will answer a question. >> you are not really answering this question. >> in this case i thought the policy was fine. when i was in scouts it was fine. you are asking what it is going forward. i think it should be up to the scouts. >> do you think being gay is a choice? >> that's not an issue to be involved in. i will stand up and work hard for every american regardless of who they are and no matter what their background is. i will fit for people no matter weather they vote for people.
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>> to act on behalf of people you have to have an opinion of who they are and where they are coming from. >> don't have an opinion on everything out. there i don't know the answer to that is. again, i'm going to focus on things that i do know and what i can work on. you said that l immigration should be limited. why is that? some people may say that's counter to what america was founded on. >> i said i think priority under legal immigration should be given to the impact on working families and the wages that will improve the american economy. people like me who were born here and the woman i just met in cedar rapids who moved here with a political refugee and went through the process to be a legal citizen. she is working here and i
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believe for her and for others who were born here, there needs to be a priority given to say we will do things that makes it a priority for working families and their wages. that's what her priorities were. >> you once backed a path to citizenship and you believe it's amnesty. you were running as somebody who is principaled and authentic. how do you square the impression that your positions have changed. craig robin who is the former director of the party here in io iowa, he said walker is making romney look like the model of consistency. >> the only issue i have clearly said i had a position before and even on that as a governor, i didn't have a roll to play in immigration. i said there should be a path years ago. when i talked about going forward. i didn't talk about amnesty. i said i opposed the gang of and the measure that marco rubio a
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>> president obama for a fight as congress signals it will try to get the political team on television. cnn's dana bash and william herd from texas. thank you for being here.
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one of the provisions that is not in this deal is this. what the administration says in response is this 24-day leeway president, we can find officials that tell us if there were nuclear materials, your former cia agent. is that true? will we be able to detect? >> it shouldn't be 24 days. any time, anywhere is just that. the problem is it's absolutely no confidence-building measures. how can we trust them and getting in to see the facilities at any time, any place is we understand what's going on. >> is it possible that the radiation detectors will find out if they have been up? >> they can move a lot of color in 24 days as well. >> where is this on the hill right now?
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>> it seems to be clear the administration performs a miracle that there votes to initially if they want say they don't agree with this and it shouldn't go through. the question is whether or not there is a veto to do that. they are working incredibly hard to try to push. this is a bipartisan thing because there democrats opposed to this. the administration had jewish members of congress in "the situation room" this past week. they are going after -- they have a list of every member who is 5'5" and under, they have members trying to lobby them. >> with any international processes, i do believe that the administration will be able to keep the democrats 152 house
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democrats signed an agreement basically with the framework like the out lines of a deal. clearly the administration will have to continue to maintain the strong support not just of the democrats in the house, but the senate. i was telling dana, i have been a great fan and support and yes, i'm a fan of the administration for the president and i never have been lobbied as much as i have been over the last couple of days. they are giving us information not just about the amount of money and whether or not iran will be a good player in the region. they are giving us information and i'm sure they are giving it to those of us who are talkers. members of congress and staffers. they go back this summer and come back to support the deal. >> you saw a president who was engaging in the fight and wanted to talk about criticism when the reporters didn't come up with enough, he said let's think of other criticisms that i can
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address. you don't see one and he is asking the question. the reason is because for him on the issues that were not of his something he wants to talk about. a positive legacy of what he wants to have. republicans are going to oppose obama on anything. we are not surprised they are opposing him on this. a lot of democrats that are a posing him as well. before getting an agreement from your entire government. that's something that has frustrated a lot of democrats in congress. at the end of the day, they have never shown any information why the iranians agreed to these measures before. the iaea had done third
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inspections from 2003 to 2010. they found out that the iranians were lying to them and that caused four more sanctions going forward. the iranians have done this before and we have no measures that say they are not going to do it again. >> let's take a break. they are rushing to condemn donald trump. who has his back? the answer might surprise you. e and milking it. start every day with the power of protein and milk life. but i've managed.e crohn's disease is tough, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief.
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or bad about john mccain or anybody else, i'm not going to do it. >> ted cruz of texas refusing to pile on to the donald trump scenario as many of his rivals seem to do. rrkt enthusiastically yesterday and earlier in the show. let's talk it up with the round table. let me ask you this. i could have predicted, i feel, that trump was going to say something controversial and the entire republican establishment was going to jump on him. i didn't know what it was going to be. does the rnc want him away? >> every minute we are talking about donald trump or an outrageous thing he said, it makes it seem like a reality show rather than a sober contest. it means we are not talking about the failings of president obama that they would like to talk about and they would like to talk about how this administration and hillary clinton have failed and they are
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talking about donald trump and the latest crazy thing. >> except to play devil's advocate. he has brought up the issue of immigration that a lot of republicans are worried about talking about that a lot of the base loves to talk about. >> absolutely. there is a good reason why he is doing so well. it's not because he is entertaining, but he is talking about something a lot of the base were frustrated that a lot of them didn't want to talk about. something that is counter intuitive, that was somebody who was in the box for five years and he can't lift his arms. he was torturing him because his bones didn't heal after his plane crash. having said that, i think there is a big part of the electorate, bigger than we think perhaps that is not offended by these. they are equally frustrated on
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immigration. lights out, donald trump. >> i think it's at the table and i heard from a lot of democrats who only 11 years ago in 2004 when john kerry recalled to see if we can see the pictures of the convention. there is somebody with a band-aid that is representing mocking the three purple hearts and one of the standard bearers came on and said this. >> the three purple hearts that never bled. they are all superficial wounds. bob dole walked those back, but is there a double standard. republicans say there is nowhere for comments unless you are a democrat? >> you don't criticize anyone's
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service. someone willing to put their lives in harm's way for all of us to sleep well at night, you don't disparage that. i care what party you necessary. >> i totally agree with the congressman. i remember 2004. i think the republicans are struggling with excommunicating donald trump and republicans are embracing in case he drops out and they want to accrue those votes. they have a branding problem with hispanics and they have been working on it for years with republicans and here comes this celebrity with a huge following because he is standing up to the establishment, but he is blocking the sunshine that the other republicans like mr. rubio and others would like to have this moment in the sun to qualify for the first debate. >> let me turn to another warfare. the net roots gathering of
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liberal activists and there was a moment where one of the democratic candidates, martin o'malley was shouted down when he said all lives matter. >> every life matters and that is why this issue is so important. black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. >> i read a column saying he was using the language of white supremacy. you can explain why somebody would be mad at all lives matter? >> i don't approve of and condone shouting down anybody. i do believe when the speakers and the candidates come they want to be real and i like the back and forth. there is a real cry from a generation that wants to be
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heard. they feel crushed by the powers they are experiencing and the unjust police tactics. they want to be heard and they don't want to be grouped together with all lives matter. they are paying their frustration and attended too many funerals and not going to allow the candidates to pander without addressing the issues. the woman who was killed, i don't know the circumstances so apologize for that. found dead and was really one of the heroes behind black lives matter. a lot of frustration and i would advise candidates, democrats and republicans to figure out what's going on. if they decide not to address the issues, they will shout out. >> figure out what's going o. good words to live by. after the break, join me in my giant wall of cartoons for the
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>> the president and his family
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took in the broadway musical hamilton as in alexander hamilton long remembered for his death by dual by aaron bur. he may have to pay the price with the cartoonion. >> american presidency from the george washington to the ben franklins. it seems you don't have to be president to get on a greenback. you just have to be an old dead white guy. historically important of course. now we are told they are moving to bring a woman into the mix. it will start with the $10 bill. alexander hamilton will have to share it with a lucky female. others dream of a perm in fact replacement. there might be something poetic
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of replacing andrew jackson with sacagawea. on the $100,000 bill was woodrow wilson. he was a nasty racist. let's put alice faulk on that bill. we love benjamin franklin, he gets plenty of love. what if sojourner troof were to be on the 100s. it's all about the sojourners, baby. gps starts right now. >> this is gps, the global public square. for all of you around the world. >> every pathway to a nuclear

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