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we start with a rich carroway and onion and paprika soup finished with homemade croutons and there's a deeply rich and deeply warming beef stew with smoked pork sausage for good measure and cooked for hours and, of course, heavy on the paprika, traditional cucumber salad. to accompany the stew, boiled dumplings. >> our style in photography was
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not realist. it's poetic realist. that's what we always thought about that certain photography, emphasizing basically the beauty of the things but also i make it more beautiful than it is. >> why is hungary so strong on photography? >> i think they are very strong in mathematics which was in the early days connected to photography. phil tells me about his education in math. it was totally different. >> very good school. >> that's what i said, the schools in hungary were very, very good. >> this is no kind of an answer to me.
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my great fear is a fear of failing.
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and that's hawaiian because i was born that way because that's expectation. you're hawaiian, you're going to be less. you're hawaiian, you're going to fail more. it's old. it's in you. it's part of your identity. but when i navigate a voyage, i know when the storm comes, it's going to take you to the bone. and if the storm keeps coming, you've got to stand up. that's just what you've got to do. it's this zone where you learn to make fear your best friend. you hold it really close to you and you open up the door to believing that you can make it. ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪
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♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha la la la la ♪ ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ ♪ sha la la la la ♪ ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ hawaii is america. as american as anything could possibly be. yet it also never shed what was there before in the layers and layers that have come since. it's a wonderful tricky conflicted hell broth in lack of a better word that you'd have to call paradise. >> no way it's a paradise. paradises don't exist. paradise is kind of in your head. >> wait a minute. you look at your window here. you look at those hills, those
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mountains, all that green, that blue sky. the clear sea. it sure looks like paradise to me. this guy knows. he's been everywhere. he's paul thoreau. novelist, essayist, he's a legendary travel writer. of the all the places he's been, all the places he's seen, he chose hawaii to live and he's lived here for 25 years. >> does it matter that it's america? >> it's the big thing that it's america. it has elements of the third world. the nicest elements of the third world which is that it is funky. there is self-respect. there's the pride. things that don't work at all. and then it's usa. where we are now. there's pta meetings here. they get together and watch the super bowl and it's the most main street usa you will find.
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>> town is a neighborhood spot in the district and as hawaii is the only state in the union that allows fishermen to sell to restaurants, the pan-roasted mahi-mahi is pretty damn good. it's not a particularly welcoming or friendly part of the world. contrary to the sort of the aloha myth. >> no, that's right. but no island is. nantucket isn't. the island of hawaii isn't. name an island that is that wants foreigners there. sicily? no way! no way. did anyone come to an island with a good intention? >> no, never in this new world. best case in the world, bring syphilis. pretty much. at the very least. >> yes. captain cook put his sailors ashore just a little northwest of here.
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he was the first howly. like magellan, and they killed the first tourists, and just like hawaii, they killed their first tourists. the philippines killed their first tourists, but people on the islands born on the islands, they view anyone who comes ashore with suspicion. >> what defines a hawaiian? maybe should go back in our imaginations to could have been 2,000 years ago. the tahitians had this voyage way before any other culture was exploring the deep seas. somehow, someplace in the south pacific, single most isolated in the planet. fast forward to captain cook and get a glimpse, very productive people. they're industrious, healthy. strong, time for the arts. that was a large population, more than half of what we have in hawaii today. fully sustainable, because there was no other choice. so over time, the native hawaiian population goes to 22,000.
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it's the same story. introduced disease, inability to deal with it. people die. 1926, public school system would outlaw language and the practice of culture in public schools. so the road to extinction has been well paved. >> between captain cook's arrival in 1778 and today, disease wiped out most of the population. missionaries came. a booming sugar and pineapple plantation industry. influx of immigrants in okinawa, china, and the philippines, the overthrow of the queen and the u.s. takeover of the hawaiian government world war ii and finally statehood. the geographical realities of being thousands of miles from, well, anywhere else, has given hawaii to some degree,
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protection from the forces that eradicated so many other south pacific cultures entirely. in fact, they've arguably been holding back the inevitable creep better than just about anyone. what hawaii looks like today depends which island you're standing on and to some extent, the reputation of the locals. the hawaiian islands are not a monolith. islands, that's plural and we're talking eight very different islands with very different identities. it's been over a century since the waves of immigrants began and things got all mixed up in the best possible way. there's layers. and a simple question like, who is hawaiian gets you all kinds of answers. the neighborhood of kalihi is far from what most know and most specific kind the last 40 years.
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>> it's the blue collar town. they all come here. breakfast, lunch. every day. >> i'm joined by two local chefs, mark noguchi of mission, known by some as the gooch. second generation japanese and andrew lei of the pig and the lei, and he's the first generation vietnamese american or would that be vietnamese-hawaiian. as you'll see, it gets complicated. >> i actually cooked on the east coast for three years and people would always be like, are you from hawaii? you're hawaiian? i said, no. second generation japanese. but hawaiian? no, i realized like, here in hawaii, we identify ourselves ethnically versus geographically. like, there's no way he or i would call ourselves hawaiians. we would get our asses kicked by a hawaiian. >> how many generations does it take? how lock does it take?
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>> a native of the land. in your blood. you come from a lineage of native hawaiian people. >> what's your feeling here? >> well, i do feel hawaiian in a sense, you know. it's my place. but culturally, that's a different story. >> you say you're not hawaiian. >> no. >> what's your feeling about -- spam. >> i love it. >> so you're hawaiian. >> i'm born and raised, going to die 808. >> the owners are a typical mix. aka mob, mainly japanese husband, and daughter, who i guess would be japanese, american okinawan/hawaiian and son-in-law, robert, who is of course, mexican. >> that's pretty. ooh, look at that. oh, that's the tripe. that looks good. >> now we are talking. that's awesome.
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>> i just caught local food. it just covers a wide net. when i look at this table, it's just hawaii. got portuguese, japanese. okinawan, world war ii. i don't know. >> korean? >> korean, japanese, hawaiian. love child of awesomeness. >> the food is bone deep hawaiian stuff, which is to say delicious mash-up, okay. take taco rice. it's a dish created in okinawa to approximate tex-mex for homesick american gis that was then appropriated by younger generations of oak thatkinawan japanese and found its way back
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to hawaii. got that? >> identify, my best friends were native hawaiian. helped me to realize the pride of being from hawaii, understanding the hawaiian culture. living it. possibly japanese. >> there's still a movement to sovereign. >> there's strong movement. >> so if fighting broke out, which side are you on? >> i'm getting the tear gas. >> you don't even have to think about it? >> i would joke about it, because if i like, me and hawaii, and native hawaiians only, and hey, everybody needs a cook. i would be like, hey, i am a cook. i have worth!
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this is ninoa thompson. in 1976 with similarly heroic hawaiians, he did a difficult very important thing. before 1972, it was generally assumed even insisted upon that hawaii had been settled originally by some random savages who maybe drifted over accidentally from south america. it certainly couldn't have been ancient polynesians. they could not have willfully bring a canoe thousands of miles of open water. >> nobody could see the canoe. >> no dreams.
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no hope. can't see. >> the polynesian voyaging society with the help of noah thompson set out to prove that that was exactly what did happen. >> there were those in the community that loved this, prayed for it. and there were those that feared it because they sensed change. it was powerful. it changed everything. >> the hokulaia. a replica of the kind of craft believed to have been used in those times and using only primitive contemporaneous navigational tools sailed 5,500 miles to tahiti and back. the trip that helped spark a hawaiian renaissance, a rebirth of pride and interest in traditional hawaiian culture and identity. >> the success was monumental. it changed world view that our ancestors were powerful, and extraordinarily intelligent and courageous and skilled. and so we come from them.
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>> thompson is a legendary waterman and he continues to sail. a native hawaiian, his roots go back in the valley 200 years. >> my grandfather was born here. so i grew up. >> he spent many years learning learning traditional polynesian navigation techniques from a master. he is a man who grew up in the small micronesian island. >> this was a man who was chosen by his grandfather. at one year old he was put in the tide pools to learn the wind and the water. at 5 years old, he was sailing with his grandfather. the canoe made me sick. my grandfather threw me into the ocean to go inside the wave. when i go inside the wave, i become the wave. when i become the wave, now i navigate. at 5. i approached him.
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he just said to me, you're too old. you want someone to know everything. send your son to my island. he said i'll teach you enough to find the island you seek, but i can't teach you the magic. >> why do you think it was important to do such a thing? >> i mean, it's the same story you'll see everywhere in terms of the indigenous people. my father's mother, nearly pure hawaiian, chooses not to teach her children language or culture or genealogy. where do you come? who's your family? what's your link? and that could have been 100 generations. what the voyage did was a reconnection back to feeling wholesome about who you are, because knowing where you come from and who are your ancestors. so when they got to tahiti, it was their canoe and not ours, it was theirs. and so it was like it started to ignite this flame. it was symbolic. a bumper sticker, t-shirt emerged.
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i'm proud to be hawaiian. 1987, first language. mandatory in schools. hawaiian culture has to be taught. private schools won't have attendance if you don't teach hawaiian. now hawaiian identity into everything. it has to be recognized in everything. you are going to molokai? >> yes. >> that community is powerful. >> what i mentioned to people, locals in oahu that i was going to molokai, the response was almost always surprise. they have a reputation of being inhospitable and they said that molokai dudes were mean, unfriendly, tough the as iron and quick to get pissed off. as it turned out, that was not my experience. >> we like to brag that we don't have traffic lights.
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we don't have traffic. we don't have a building over three stories. >> nice. >> walter naki is a skilled fisherman and today, we head out for some octopus. >> you know molokai's nickname is the friend hi island. >> it's not the friendly island. supposed to be the most unfriendly island. i mean, that's what everybody says, right? >> it depends how you look at it. traditionally here, we are very, very friendly. now unfriendly is where you go try to come and fix it. that's when it becomes unfriendly. the molokai people have been protective of our natural resources. we have a lot of the natural resources still intact, and a lot of people don't want to come. >> unsurprisingly, fishing rights is an issue around here. don't come over here sport
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fishing the wrong place if you know what's good for you. >> this is where we're going to dive this area. a nice sandy spot. okay ready. wait. let go. okay. we are here, right? okay. when we get near the octopus, we are going to coax him out of his hole. when you stick the spear in there you're going to make him feel he is not safe no more. when he comes out of there, you stick him with the spear. >> final step, stun the struggling creature with a sharp mallet or if you want to the go old school, bite him right in the brain. in my case, it took repeated
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crunching for the chicklet sized organ. >> it's going to come to you. take your time. this one died eventually, likely by exhaustion as anything else, i suspected. ♪ >> you're a hero today.
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♪ ♪ while the sailing canoe was a powerful spark for the hawaiian renaissance, this is what really set things off. beginning in 1941 and continuing
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to the 1970s and beyond the u.s. navy had been using this neighboring island of koloa as a bombing range. you could feel the shockwaves as far away as molokai. people have never been happy about it but emboldened by times and recent events, a group of young activists decided to take a stand. in 1976, there were a number of attempted occupations of the island in protest of the bombing. none more successful than walter. he and fellow activist, richard sawyer set up on the island and refused to leave. >> back over there. >> managing to evade pursuers just over a month before finally being arrested and jailed. >> the first order is to burn down this building. >> they emerged, of course, heroes. and these protests went on to inspire many others to enjoy the movement. >> i hope i'm still alive when that day happens.
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i want to see our queen back in office. >> and embody the independent spirit and desire for hawaiian sovereignty that today resonates across generations. ♪ >> welcome to what is supposedly the most unwelcoming place in hawaii. ♪ eet you. >> please come inside. >> aloha. >> this is a shared community space with a sacred history. hano hano is the caretaker of the fish pond and here is the local community leader. also here is the famous walter ritty.
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>> everyone knows how valuable all of this stuff because we can see what happened to the rest of the island? >> essentially an old school fish farm. >> 800 years old. >> 800 years old. >> modernizing one old idea and an ancient idea simple as feeding your community. this, the island you're on, this place could feed over a million people back in the day. >> you hear the word again and again on molokai "ina" and it translates to "that which feeds you." springs, mountains, rivers. these lands, these fish ponds were managed by their ancestors. fresh water from the fast moving ocean waters met. early, sustainable clean fish farms. something in modern times, we're still struggling to figure out. >> people think about us. the true story, we have a place of abundance and trying to protect it.
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trying to protect all of these things we've been trying to protect for the last 30 years and it's getting harder and harder. >> every single one of these hawaiians over here, get enough evidence that the state of hawaii, the department of land and natural resources have done a terrible job. we are not looking for blame, but we are actually looking for an agreement that today, we can all be pono, righteous, good. our planet is in such bad shape that being environmental, being green is trending, and that is what hawaiians have always been. >> right. so who gets to be hawaiian? this is the question, who is hawaiian? >> hawaiian is a nationality, bob. >> come on. don't now. i have to be born here. this is a different story. >> i can give you the best explanation. you cannot be our blood. you cannot be kanapa. hawaii is our nationality. you can be that.
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you see this where we stand on, our ina. it matters so much, if you love this place and you don't want to with develop it, destroy it, abuse it, we're on the same team. if you are eyeing this place and the resources as a money-making vehicle for yourself, we enemies, right? and it doesn't matter what race, religion, sex you. if you love this place and the way we love it and our ancestors loved it, oh, we can be more than friends but we can be family. i'm going to aloha you. >> beautifully put. wow. >> that's it. >> right on, bro. >> it's a pretty impressive spread of food for a supposedly surly group. slow roasted pig, grilled kala fish.
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and of course, octopus. known as squid luau. fresh poi. you've got to have it fresh. believe me. makes all the difference in the world. fresh water snails called i believe hihi vine harvested from streams way up in the mountains. >> this is the bounty of the ocean and the mountain. squid. >> that's octopus? >> you bit his eye. >> oh, i recognize him. ♪ is stealing our stuff, right? but all of this stuff is dependent on healthy environment
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>> let me ask you just because i'm a bit of a dick. i have to ask. i have to ask. i have to ask. all right. so we have like 12 more beers. and i pull out some nice suvi. >> i would eat them. look, i would eat them. that doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean that's what i feed my children. our culture made everything we did the best of the best. hawaiians are the only one that turned into poi. we did everything to the best of the best. so you turned spam to us, we will do it the best. you introduced christianity to us, we're going to do it the best. >> our christianity is better than yours. i love it. so you really disappointed me. you've in no way lived up to your reputation, mean, inward looking, hostile. admit it. it's a calculated strategy. >> it is.
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and i'll leave with a message. if you're watching this show i hope your heart is swelling with admiration but the bottom line don't come here. >> yeah! ♪ ♪ [ laughter ] ♪
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the ocean is all around for thousands of miles. a humbling feeling knowing at all times the ground upon which you live and walk and breathe is but a tiny speck in the middle of all of this. so in hawaii, the water, man, is an important distinction. it expresses the shared consensus you're able to handle yourself in the ocean no matter what it throws at you.
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it implies you're capable of almost mythical things. the ability to live in the water, handle its many moods, above or below the surface. meet uncle ross. waterman. a canoe-surfing legend and generally accepted ambassador of the aloha spirit. he's offered to share the truly ancient hawaiian space found only on the face of a crashing wave. ♪ ♪ family and friends on the beach, some of the cornerstones of hawaiian life. >> this is our chef. that is jason.
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>> hello. >> tony, that's kiola. >> how are you? >> how you doing? >> kiave. megan. >> hello. >> those are my two daughters. this is my wife, felicia. >> hi, how are you? >> come say hi. >> milton. this is milton. >> good to meet yoi -- you. how does everybody know each other here? >> we live on an island. everybody knows everybody. >> why do i even ask? >> i think i met uncle ross through the water. i mean, just surfing. we became, like, family. he's like my dad. my ohana. >> each and every week, uncle ross can be found here with his ohana, a hawaiian word that describes an extended family and close circle of friend.
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>> beautiful day. even when it's storming, it's nice on the beach. >> yeah. yeah. >> and we'll stay here until that thing goes down. hits the horizon. when the sun hits the horizon, it's time to go home. >> maui is an island as beautiful as it gets and sure, it's got share of portion-controlled cruise line entertainments, doled out and digestible bites and complementary mai tais but a beloved indigenous institution as tasty crust. as local a place as you're likely to find. daniel akitahito will explain. >> this is a menu situation, or, i can order for you if you trust me. i think we'll hook you up with the local flavor. >> okay, i trust. >> raised on the big island, he's a journalist. the first native hawaiian editor of a major surf publication and founder of a local contrast magazine. >> local culture is very much so trying to point a finger at anybody coming going, hey, you don't belong. therein kind of lies a little
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conflict we have of being a modern day hawaiian. and i still think that's something we forget about these days is how educated and how accepting our ancestors were. it was always built on inclusivity, aloha. aloha is giving without expecting anything in return. you've got a hawaiian culture that was a product of the polynesians that populated the islands and the local part of the plantation lifestyle. the japanese, the chinese, the koreans, filipinos, portuguese. >> if indeed all history can be explained by what is on your plate, this is a prime exempt. behold. the plate lunch. the most identifiable and essential feature of the plate lunch is this. a big scoop or two of white rice and potato mac salad. there is nothing more hawaiian
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served alongside a protein like chicken katsu, or this hamburger steak-like patty drowned in dark sinister stinky, shiny gravy. or seared ahi-ahi norrie with sesame seed. >> that looks beautiful. >> oh, that's going to work. all right. sit this right on top of the rice. >> yep. get some of that salad on there too. >> get the gravy on. look what we're eating. they may not be eisen, but they are now. they're fundamentally local. this food, the most delicious, let's be honest, delicious. this is not healthy eating. >> we're kind of paying the price for it right now in the health of the state. which is terrible. as i take a bite of a hamburger. >> as i said, just so good. >> if you really want to do hawaii right, you've got to get that. that's a power that hawaii has
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is that if you show aloha and you give without asking, the ina is going to recognize it and shower its blessings upon you. >> so you think traditional hawaiian culture and lifestyle has a chance against the modern world? >> i think so. the beautiful part about my ancestors is they realized there was a limited number of resources where they lived, so they observed nature to the best possible they could to figure out what were the cycles and how do we preserve this resource? hawaiian culture can teach the whole world something that it needs to know, that we all live on an island. and we are all part of the same community. let's all show aloha to the ina and let's show aloha to everybody else as well. ♪ ♪ been brutal. but then i got a domain and built
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an extraordinary man lives in this house. chef gordon. long time resident on maui. legendary talent manager. maybe you know some of the people whose careers he's looked after. alice cooper. teddy pendergrass, luther vandross, blondie, pink floyd. he was years ahead of the chef explosion. shepherding emeril through his career. he's produced films. great chefs like roger. close to holiness the dalai lama. basically done everything with everybody in every place. >> i first got here 40 years ago. i put one foot on the island and i knew i was living here the rest of my life. >> do you ever look out there and it's wallpaper? >> never. i say it out loud.
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first words in the morning. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. every day. >> chef is famously one of the most generous and enthusiastic of hosts, a more stand-up loyal guy you could barely imagine and no wonder they call the documentary based on his life "super mitch." that's how he's known around the world. here, he's known that guy who throws great parties. prep starts early. with chef's friend, julio, a maui-born and bred rancher with help from local chef sheldon. middle of the night, in a traditional emu is dug, filled with lava rocks. the fire allowed to burn down to coals before the pig wrapped in combination of banana leaves and tea leaves is dropped in. >> okay, you guys ready for the unveiling? hold on. >> 12 hours later, you dig it up and well, it's party time.
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what you've been saying is you've been drinking steadily since 5:00 this morning. >> i didn't say, it didn't come out of my mouth. >> behold. the magnificence. it's a very important part of your childhood. dun dun. wow. look at that. you just lift the bones out by hand. >> yep. >> ready? >> just dump them in into a bucket. awesome. wow. [ applause ] wow. that's close to the way i would end up. pour me right into a pot. there's lots to do, and everyone pitches in to help. it's an extended, all-day affair of chopping, dicing, slicing, mixing and sampling along the
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way, like this sausage that someone was nice enough to drop off. sheldon works up the potato mac salad. julios up a unicorn fish salad which he caught earlier in the day. chef marrbell chops this up. and somewhere, somewhere, pig's foot soup is happily bubbling away. there's chili pepper water used for dipping or taking a shot for regularity or boner medicine or whatever. oh, yeah. there's also spam noodles. there is no party without spam. by dinnertime, the beer, wine,
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and festive beverages have been flowing for hours. also moods have been adjusted in natural ways indigenous to the islands, of course. how about to julio and the pigs. [ applause ] >> i've cooked a lot of things. i ain't never seen one poured into a pot. >> it's what i love. this is what we do in the islands. this is what it's all about. >> and always bring the family. bring the kids. you rarely ever see a party where there aren't kids. >> ohana means family. >> extended family. >> it's like you're an ohana to everybody here. >> and if you're family, you can borrow money. >> and, as happens, i've come to find out, things end up in the most natural, just kind of happens way, song and some dancing.
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to be hawaiian, to me, there needs to be some kind of sense of connection to place, and some sense of responsibility for it. the issue about being honest to place, and honest about what you love and honest to what you value is a road that you're constantly trying to be more. i don't know sometimes how to be fully honest, because i don't know enough. what i love about the oceans, that's my path. that i go on the oceans to seek that sense of truth. ♪ ♪
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r optimism. all week i've been staring out to sea, watching humpback whales leaping out of the ocean, spouting and frolicking. so are things compared to other parts of the world, our conservation efforts as far as marine mammals and whales in particular, is that going well? >> that's the one thing on the planet that is. they're talking about taking humpbacks off the endangered species list. it's good to hear that they've recovered. but it may make it easy to add to the whaling list again. >> it's mating season in hawaii for the nearly 10,000 humpback whales that migrant down each year. this doctor of the university of hawaii has dedicated his career to studying these whales. >> i think their song is the
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most complicated display. when you're close to a singer you can feel it with your whole body, like 185 db, really loud. wow. >> they don't mind us at all. do they? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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u.s. president barack obama makes history in kenya. just wrapping up a speech kicking off a five-day sweep of east africa. also ahead, the map who opened fire in a louisiana movie theater. new details about his psychological history and how it may have led him to the deadly shooting spree. plus a new round of bombings in syria and


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