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>> so i have, you know, she -- she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and, you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever, but she was, in my opinion, she was off base. >> in response to trump's comments, officials with red state, the event, said this. the organizers eric erickson said his comment was inappropriate. it's unfortunate to have -- to disinvite him but i don't want somebody on stage gets a hostile question from lady and his first inclination is to imply it was homeran. it was just wrong. wasting no time, a trump spokesperson fired back saying another weakness through being politically correct.
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blame erick erickson. for all of the people who were looking forward to mr. trump coming, we will miss you. mark preston is in the studio with us. trump disinvited from this red state gathering. what is this? >> it's a gathering that happens every year. they meet at a different location. this year happens to be in atlanta. it's going to be about 900 to a hundred candidates. expect to hear from scott walker and jeb bush and mike huckabee and donald trump this evening but that is not going to happen. what is interesting these are the type of folks at this gathering that resonate toward the trump anti-establishment message. >> could there some blow-back for red states? if these are the trump voters and they were here to hear
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him -- >> is it good publicity about them? now talking more about the red states than we would would have. >> i think some will be disappointed they won't get to see donald trump in person but i think the comments trump made last night had gone too far and crossed the like. he called erick erickson a weak leader but he is anything but a weak leader. >> on twitter, it's saturday the meltdown from trump with all due respect to megyn kelly is long overdue. i am surprised and is anybody else surprised at how this is playing out on twitter? you put something out there. we are grown people. names are being called. it's in writing. it's documented. it won't be able to be disputed. how has twitter changed the whole atmosphere of this campaign? >> it's a media.
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donald trump makes these comments just a few hours ago, quite frankly, on our air and it blows up so quickly that erick erickson within an hour or so of that interview disinvites him. a lot of people waking up and don't know about this and i expect twitter to blow up later on. >> do you think twitter is what facilitated this disinvitation? >> i think it accelerates the process even more. >> is there any indication this will resonate? i think after trump made those comments about senator mccain's war record, people expected that to have some impact. >> right. >> is there an expectation that this will? >> i think there was some impact, although donald trump was going to survive it but, again, the comments he made today has gone a little bit too far or way too far in many ways. now you're going to have women being together, even those who
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might have been on the fence about donald trump and say, wait a second, how dare you say that. or even daughters and wives. >> this is a man who has a daughter and wives and still says this. >> i ask this question -- would he say it to his daughter or about his doubt? >> we will have one of the new hampshire supporters of donald trump on the show a little later. we got another piece of sound. let's play this. our producer is cue this sound. >> she's somebody that, you know, pretty tough and i'm sure she can take care of herself but, you know, she is somebody i don't have a lot of respect for. i don't think she has major talent. i don't think she's got very much talent at all. she is sitting there reading questions and she rehearsed for it a long time. >> this is not the first time donald trump has gone after a woman. is there something specific, something special about megyn kelly, the reason this is
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resonating? >> megyn kelly is beloved by conservatives, no doubt about that. i don't think anyone can say that megyn kelly is not very skilled. she is extremely smart and very good at her job and she is a very good journalist. not only do you have that piece of where people say, wait a second, you know, that's not true but you go one step further where she has a following in the conservative community. erick erickson invited her to speak tonight. >> is she? >> i doubt it, actually, because it probably would be a little too far for a journalist to come and do that but it is telling he made that invitation. >> we have got from carly fiorina tweeting i stand with megyn kelly and, mr. trump, there is no excuse. do you think if fiorina in the next gop debate, a lot were
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impressed by her performance on thursday, she will take donald trump one-on-one? >> she spoke at red state and asked about donald trump and some of his comments, not the megyn kelly comments but even though trump made these comments last night, all day yesterday, he had been going after megyn kelly on twist. she she said it was inappropriate and she pivoted off of it and now an opening for her to step in and say i'm the ceo, i'm the successful person. oh, by the way, i'm a woman. >> is there any indication -- i mean, we know that people love trump for his boldness. they see him as telling it like it is, as not giving in to being fitting into some sort of mold, but when you're talking about the highest office in the land, is there a sense of self-control and decorum attached to that. are some people seeing that
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missing with trump at this point? do you get a sense from the people you've talked to and where you've been, that that is starting to be a conversation amongst voters? >> i certainly think -- certainly his reaction to megyn kelly's questions thursday night during the debate and how he was so angry and said she wasn't nice to him, well, if you're the commander in chief, no one is going to be very nice to you and if you're going to be negotiating against the iranians or north korea or wherever it's going to be, you have to be able to -- >> take criticism? >> take criticism and be able to keep your mouth shut when you need to keep your mouth shut. donald trump is not one to apologize. he didn't apologize after the john mccain incident but we will see what he does in the next few hours. >> do you think he might? >> i don't think so. but we will see what happens. >> mark, stay with us. we are going to invite jason johnson? an analyst, and get his views on this and talk more about donald trump's interview with cnn last night. stay with us. we will tell the conversation in a moment. also ahead, a jury decides
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i've been an apprentice. i'm like the smart person so i can handle the toughness question. give me a question on physics i can handle. >> trump said a lot last night during that interview with don lemon. controversial republican candidate hitting back at his opponents, taking on critics who call him thin-skinned. i'm joined now by mark preston and political analyst and professor at hiram college, jason johnson. jason, i want to start with you. he says he is a smart guy. >> right. >> was it necessarily a smart idea to raise his hand and not taking that pledge at the start of the debate? >> he is always on brand. it was a very smart thing for donald trump to do. >> let me say that that pledge was to not run as a third-party candidate. >> exactly. look. he is the tea party candidate and donald trump, as long as he stays true to himself, he is always making a smart move. you go into a debate, you say you're honest and attack the media and stay on brand and did
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all of those things. even his argument is megyn kelly is right on brand. >> the republican party that despises the clintons and hillary clinton's possibilities ago being the next president of the united states, would that moment resonate considering what they just went through -- i guess what went through? more than 20 years ago in 1992 with another billionaire who stepped in who they blame for handing the white house to on the clintons the first time? >> whenever you look at a political situation you have to say who are the winners and who are the losers? when donald trump made the disparaging remarks about john mccain at that moment, the winner was jeb bush because donald trump had been putting all of his fire on jeb bush. took a little bit of the heat off. i think last night when donald trump made meethese comments, t winner of the establishment. donald trump will come under more criticism and a possibility that there will be more after movement to push him out. >> we have a sound bite where he
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talks about breaking from the party. >> what happens is, you know, look. i'm leaning as a republican. obviously, it's better to run as a republican. but i'm leading as the republican. that's what my choice is and if i'm treated fairly and with respect and even if i don't get it, i would, you know, most likely go ahead and not do that. but if, on the other hand, i'm not, i might very well might. now, at some point, i may switch over and make everybody happy and i would be happy also. i would say with that being said, i'm being treated very nicely by the rnc and everybody is treating me very nicely. that's what i want. i want a level playing field. >> yeah. >> if i get a level playing field, fairness, then it's highly unlikely i do the other which go a third-party. >> he says he is being treated nicely by the rnc and reins
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priebus. we spoke this morning before the show. you don't think he was treated fairly during the debate? >> i don't think he was treated fairly at all. i think that first question was almost unseemly. it seems that reins priebus slid that up there, tell them he will not run as a third-party candidate. i think moderators were aggressive with trump and the only person asked follow-up questions. i think they were out to get him. i have no dog in this fight. i think his supporters feel that the establishment is after him and something that will help him out down the road. >> is that resonating, mark? do people in the party believe that as well? >> i think someone like donald trump who wants to draw all of the attention to himself during the debate is going to get the attention. the elephant in the room is donald trump going to stay as a republican? the question had to be asked, that question had to bed ask but perhaps not off the top because it certainly, you know, was a right hook. however, again, i think a comment like this, you couldn't
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even find common cause if you can imagine this, between democrats and republicans on this comment he made about megyn kelly, certainly women's groups. >> he talked about last night the phone call reported by "the washington post" between bill clinton and donald trump before his launch. let's listen to what he had to say about that. >> when you and president clinton spoke, what did you discuss? >> well, that's none of your business, but it was very routine and i will say my mind -- when we spoke, i mean, this is where most of it was written incorrectly, my mind was almost fully made up in other words, i was already going to run. >> did he encourage you to run? >> no, not at all. in fact, i think he was upset. we really didn't discuss it, but i think he -- look. i am hillary's worst nightmare. she knows it. he knows it. and i think the smart people in politics know it. >> miss fiorina brought that up in the earlier debate saying i didn't get a call from the
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clintons before i launched. is this getting some traction in the party? what is going on with this contextion between trump and the clintons that was certainly brought up during the debate? >> the question is donald trump an affiliate on his positions? he come out and said, listen, i changed my views on pro life, for instance. he was pro choice at one point and now pro life. is there a question about whether he is a camillian and he tends to go -- it works well to be a republican now so he is a republican. it worked well to be a democrat and worked well from that point. >> jason and mark, thank you. a programming note. the republican presidential contenders will debate on cnn next month, wednesday, september 16th. democrats will also hold their first debate right here on cnn. that's on tuesday, october 13th. a massive typhoon strikes
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this is cnn breaking news. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. >> yeah, after those controversial comments from donald trump, breaking news this morning. the gop front-runner has been disinvited from a major republican gathering today. organizers call his comments about megyn kelly, one of the moderators, wrong and over the line. trump's campaign has since responded and this is part of it. this is another example of weakness through being politically correct. for all of the people looking forward to mr. trump coming, we will miss you. >> republicans take the stage today in a couple of hours now
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at the red state gathering. big topic already is the fight against terrorists and preventing lone wolf attacks. last night candidate carly fiorina said the u.s. missed critical clues to prevent attacks and senator march row rubio said the u.s. has to do better to protect itself. >> we have the spread of radical jihadists and isn't just isis. al qaeda is still in business. they didn't become stockbrokers. they are still looking to kill americans. >> if you look at every single lone wolf terrorist-inspired attack that we have seen in this nation from major hasan to the boston marathon bombers, every one of those single attacks, we had clues. people knew something was wrong, and when we know something is wrong and we have clues, we should be trying to figure out who these people are and what they are going to do next.
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>> we are going to dig into that with our military experts robert mcginnis and rick francona in just a minute. new information this morning about isis. some in the u.s. intelligence community warn that isis may be shifting its strategy from encouraging these lone wolf attacks. >> they are now worried that isis is trying to increase its ability to carry out strikes that kill mass numbers of people. here is cnn's national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: the thinking had been that isis focuses on small lone wolf attacks and al qaeda groups focus on the mass casualty attacks but now a debate in the intelligence community that isis is looking to build the ability to carry out mass casualty attacks and greatly increasing the threat from the group. from the bloody rampage in paris
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on the offices of charlie hebdo, whether they focused on less ambitious lone wolf attacks and maybe working to build the capability to carry out mass casualty attacks. more complex, more coordinated, more deadly. the motivation, in part, to compete with aqap, that same competition was evidence this week when they made their own pitch to supporters to carry out lone wolf attacks but, so far, have been largely isis's territory. >> i think they are taking a lot of new recruits they don't have time to train and not been brought up in their systems and using them to create the kind of mass casualty which produces the media attention that exactly is what they want that shows they are still powerful. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence assesses that the formidable flow of foreign fighters to isis
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has not abated. today, the total number of isis fighters number between 20,000 and 30,000 similar to levels when the u.s.-led air campaign began. despite thousands believed killed in coalition air strikes. turkey, the prime transit point into syria, is still struggling to stem the flow, however, the u.s. believes it's agreement to allow u.s. air strikes from a turkish air base and help establish a safe zone along the border indicate that istanbul is stepping up. the administration is claiming gains on the ground. >> in iraq, isil has lost the freedom to operate in some 30% of the territory they held last summer. over al, they have lost more than 17,000 square kilometers of trert in northern syria. >> reporter: still, u.s. officials say the process of degrading isis will take at least three years. in fact, the president pledging no specific time line for defeating the group. not disputing that he will hand
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this war to the next president. >> i think my key goal when i turn over the keys to the president, the next president is that we are on track to defeat isil. >> reporter: one group the u.s. has been having success again is a group that is an off-shoot of al qaeda present in syria at the start of the u.s.-led air campaign, u.s. officials had said that possible attacks from this group is eminent and now the pressure they are putting the group under is no longer the case. the group still exists and is a threat but no longer an eminent threat. >> jim, thank you so much. listen, in june, we saw three terror attacks in one day across the globe. our experts are here. lieutenant criminal bob mcgin s mcginnis, do you see a possibility of these mass
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casualty attacks and how might the u.s. need to modify itself strategy? >> outside of the middle east, if, in fact, that is the transition that isis is making, yes, that is a change because they have been focused on the establishment of their caliphate. should they come after, much like al qaeda has in the past with mass attacks, mass casualties being the intent, that communicates something very different and, yes, it is a very significant shift in strategy. they do have a lot of resources and social media influence across the world so these are issues with intelligence communities going to rapidly try to understand and, obviously, put our forces in a posture that they can prevent such things like this happening, whether it's an airline attack or attack in a mall or whatever it may be.
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>> lieutenant colonel francona, a massive attack would have a lot of preparation. how is isis able to do that on a large scale? >> right. now, they are not but they are gathering that capability. i believe jim is correct and what bob says they are changing their tactics now because they have territory. they can build camps. they own territory. they can begin this training and they can start to acquire the technology and all of the materials they are going to need. in the past, as bob said, they were focused on acquiring that territory, fighting the iraqis and the syrians. now they own this space and they are going to i don't that as a springboard. we have known a long time what their intentions are. >> i think we are freezing up there with him. we are going to get lieutenant criminal francona back here in a
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minute. i want to change up here a little bit and get to the political arena. senator ted cruz said this. let's listen. >> i asked general dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs, what would be required militarily to destroy isis. he said there is no military condition. we need to change the conditions on the ground so young men are not in poverty and scientificship susceptible to radicalization. that, with all due respect, is nonsense. it's the same answer the state department gave that we need to give them jobs. what we need is a commander in chief who makes clear if you join isis, if you wage jihad on america, then you are assigning your death warrant. >> first of all, colonel maginnis, what are your thoughts on this? >> there are two factors here. there is no question, as you produced the piece here, they have 20,000 to 30 thousand
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fighters and those numbers have not changed the last year. they need to be killed or removed from the battlefield. also we have to recognize as the special operations command has made very clear, that they continue to pull jihadists from across the world. so part of what cruz is saying here is that we have got to shut that off. we have got to keep people from certainly the united states, western europe, elsewhere, from flooding into syria, much less coming back to the homeland and endangering our lives. so you've got to fight the ideological but you have to cut off the flow. it's a multi-prong effort here. general dempsey, you know, to his credit, he understands that we can kill people left and right, but we have to stop the flow and this more is ideological it is a kinetic type
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of operation. >> colonel francona, how did you cut off the flow? >> as he said, it's not just a military situation. turkey is the main transit point and i think we have had a diplomatic success in finally coming to an agreement with the turks, not only going to have access to the turkish air bases but the turks have committed to shut off that flow. once that happens i think you'll see a decrease in the number of fighters as we kill -- just a process of attrition will lower those numbers, but it's going to take time. we have to give the turks credit and because the turks are going to incur the wrath of isis so they are in this now. i think that is the first step. >> thank you both to have your voices in this. thank you, gentlemen. the next controversial shooting of an unarmed white teen by police in south carolina. now, the family is calling for this incident to get as much attention as the recent shootings of unarmed black men.
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it's a horrible situation. i mean, you get put in a predicament sometimes. you know when you sign up top a police officer that potential is there during your career thaw may have to use deadly force. >> an unarmed teenager killed by police. an officer there in south carolina. this incident happened almost two weeks ago now. the question -- why are we talking about it this morning? >> the victim's parents say it's because that victim was white. >> i definitely believe it would have been -- it would have been a white officer and a black 19 -- unarmed 19-year-old and i believe it would have got -- quickly got national attention. >> you have a 19-year-old kid who weighs 121 pounds what who sun armed and shot from the rear and for the public not to be in an uproar over that and whether it's predicated on his skin
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color or not, really is hypocritical. >> nick valencia is following this story for us this morning. a lot of unanswered questions. what happened? >> is tsounds like a familiar story but in this case, the victim was white. the family convinced if he was black, it would be getting more attention. it happened late july a weeks ago. zachary is on a date with tory martin who was a target after drug sting. when the police department shown up, their guns were drawn and they say that prompted the 19 you're yooting there to accelerate his car towards them and prompted the police officer to open fire. an autopsy was conducted this week that showed the 19-year-old was shot twice. the family went forward and they did their own independent autopsy and that, they say, show the car was not moving at the time and that hammond was shot twice in the back. shortly after this incident happened, the police chief gave an interview to local media saying his police officer was the real victim in this case.
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>> a uniformed officer in a marked vehicle and was out of his vehicle on foot approaching the suspect vehicle, weapon drawn, given it was a narcotics style violation attempting to arrest the driver when the driver accelerated and came toward the officer. he fired two shots in self-defense. >> the family has been enraged and saying the police department have not offered condolences. the officer involved in this is a ten-year veteran and no disciplinary marks against him. the south carolina law enforcement division is investigating this and they have not released the dash cam video and that could make the difference in this case. >> we know it exists. nick valencia, thank you very much. overnight, trump dumped from a political event this weekend
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new this morning. james homs who shot and killed 12 people in a colorado theater will spend the last of his life in prison without patrol.
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>> reporter: life in prison without parol is the sentence for the man of one of the worst mass shootings in u.s. history. 306 witnesses testified in the trial and more than 200 pieces of evidence knitted and the jury deliberated under seven hours whether james holmes should live or die and concluding they were not able to reach a unanimous verdict. as a result, james holmes will receive life in prison without parol. all along, the prosecution had argued justice is death. while the defense urged mercy, saying james holmes was mentally ill and is mentally ill and you don't kill a sick person. even though this jury did convict him on all counts of murder and attempted murder, saying that they believe he understood right from wrong at the time of the crime.
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this jury also heard from several mental health experts who testified that james holmes does, indeed, suffer severe mental illness and perhaps that was a big part of the deliberations. again, the punishment for this crime, life in prison without parol. and it includes more than three years that the families of the loved ones killed have been waiting for justice and at the very least, this brings some closure. >> tomorrow, the sun is going to come up. we are going to have a little more pain, a little more hurt in our lives, but the sun will come up and there will still be love in our lives. we have to remember that. we have to remember the victims. >> we didn't lose loved ones. our loved ones were ripped from us and they were slaughtered in that movie theater, but the jury chose another way and we have to accept that. >> reporter: so add more perspective, a death sentence in colorado is relatively rare. in fact, there is only one person executed in this state in the past 50 years or so, back in
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1997 was the last execution. and currently there are only people on colorado's death row and irey ironically, they were sentenced in this county. >> reporter: were you surprised by the sentence, joey jackson? >> i was. on the one hand you think if you kill 12 people in a movie theater in the manner he did, the planning, the plotting, dressing up in body armor and letting off a canister of gas, you know, and then, of course, there are 70 others, lest, we forget that are injured, if this doesn't merit the death penalty, then what does? that was my initial reaction. the other perspective, we heard from ana cabrera there, basically, since it's so rare in
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colorado, you have to wonder, even this they did pronounce death, would it have been carried out and, therefore, would it have only been largely symbolic? >> let's play some sound from one of the jurors and then talk about it on the other side. >> we did our best to come to a unanimous verdict, of course. it was not possible. there was one firm holdout against the death penalty and two that were still in the process of discussing. they were on the fence. but i don't know if they could have been swayed or not. >> so one was a definitive holdout for them. do you believe that there might have been a stealth juror in this case? >> you know, it's always hard to know and i'm sure that matter will be investigated and you might recall, christi, us speaking about jodi arias in arizona where one juror potentially could have been a planted juror, however you like to call it, who held out and said i'm not voting for death and here we go again in another
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case. however, that juror that we just saw questioned there, i believe juror 17, felt, in a follow-up question, that the person who voted and said, listen, there's no way i'm going with death, she felt, at least from her perspective, that it was genuine and sincerely held belief that, in fact, it was just this -- that that is not the way they could go. let's not also forget that although mental illness did not work in terms of the defense to find him insane, it could have very well worked here where it could have been a mitigating factor for that juror to say, jur juror, there is mental illness here. the supreme court has weighed in on that issue and found it cruel and unusual. who knows again if they did pronounce death, that is this jury, whether or not he actually would have gotten the death penalty in the years to come based on the appeals. >> not only that, but, you know, we hear it took seven hours, the jury made no eye contact with anybody as they walked back into the courtroom right before it
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was announced. why couldn't the judge rule differently if he -- was that not an option? protocol just immediately default to life in prison, if there is no unanimous decision? >> that's right. two things if i could mention. it's always interesting when you're defending people, even as a prosecutor, you could take so much away from the eye contact of that jury when they was into the room if they are making contact with you and your client what it means versus them not. number one. number two, in terms of the judge and what the judge's role is, we know if you're going to pronounce death and each state does it differently but when it comes to, that it's a juror's decision and it's a jury collectively to make that decision. if they don't and don't make it in a unanimous way, there were nine women and three men, it defaults and then it's a life sentence without the possibility of parol. we know there will be a hearing coming up and the victims again will have an opportunity to talk about what this loss has really
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meant to them, their lives, their families, and the community. >> i cannot imagine. joey jackson, appreciate your insight, sir. thank you. >> thank you, christi. turning to sports. the san francisco 49ers cut outside linebacker aldon smith after he was arrested thursday night if hit and run, d.u.i. and vandali vandalism. he was suspended for nine games last season for violating the nfl's personal conduct and substance abuse policies. coy wire has more on this. >> good morning. this is part of the show we want you devise to get involved and take your comments and hear your thoughts on this. aldon is one of the best defense players in pass rushes and 19 1/2 sacks on 2013. life on the field has been great but off of it grim. he mentioned nine games last season as you mentioned and 2013 he underwent treatment at an
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inpatient system after a d.u.i. last year he spent through secondary screening at l.a.x. 49ers gave him second chance after second chance. the question we ask you how much is too many? how often should we give these players second chances when they mess up? what kind of message are team owners saying when they continually bring these players back and give them a roster spot when plenty others are walking a straight line and doing the right thing. use the #new day cnn. how many opportunities are too many when you have players doing things that they shouldn't be doing? >> looking forward to hearing that. thank you so much. so much more news to get to you today. >> the next hour of your "new day" starts right now.
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lightweight. i couldn't care less about her. >> we are following breaking news this morning. donald trump continuing to lash out after the first big gop debate. his comments on "cnn tonight" sparking conservative event to pull his invitation. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her whatever. >> they are calling his actions just plain wrong. >> trump is vowing to make a new campaign stop today. this is cnn breaking news. we are always so grateful for your company. thank you so much for being with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. the breaking news. trump made new comments.
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he did it last night on cnn about debate moderator megyn kelly. you heard it there. furl even during the debate kelly pressed trump about past controversial comments concerning women. here is what trump said about kelly, again, to cnn's don lemon. >> when you meet her she is not very tough and smart. i have no respect for her. i don't think she is very good. i think she is highly overrated. when i came out there what am i doing? i'm not getting paid for this. i'm going out there. they start saying lift up your arm -- i didn't know this would be 24 million people. i probably knew it was going to be a big crowd because i get big crowds. i get big ratings. they call me the ratings machine. so i have -- she gets out and starts asking me all sorts of
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ridiculous questions and you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. >> a spokesperson for trump had this to say after learning he was kicked out of the event. quote, this is just another example of weakness through being politically correct. for all of those people who were looking to mr. trump coming, we will miss you. blame erick erickson, your weak and pathetic leader. new developments with us and with us is mark preston. disinvited from this event. first put it into context. red state, what is it? >> an annual gathering of conservatives, specifically social conservatives and it happens every day and happens it's in atlanta today and donald trump was supposed to be the keynote tonight. after the comments last night, the founder erick erickson disinvited him after those comments were made.
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for our viewers who don't know him, he happens to be one of the leaders in the conservative movement. i think anybody saying that he is weak and pathetic would be wrong. >> this is the trump crowd. i mean, these are the trump supporters who will likely attend this event. >> thursday night, i was here. did not go to cleveland and i came here specifically to see the reaction from these activists when a thousand watched the debate at a watch prty. whenever donned tru eveever done stage, a lot of laughing and applause. >> there is statement from erick erickson. he says his comment was inappropriate, it's unfortunate disinvited him but i don't want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. it just was wrong. what kind do you think trump could be getting from women about this?
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this goes beyond anything we saw at the debate. >> right. it certainly goes behind his criticism a few weeks ago of john mccain saying he was not a war hero but a prisoner of war. the next couple of hours is telling of donald trump. to your point, will women come together? will we see this unholy marriage of democrats and republicans who have common cause against donald trump? that could happen the next few hours. >> we know from the latest cnn poll is that, you know, registered republican women, he is their choice. he is not far ahead. i think, what, 16% here ahead of bush at 1? i'd imagine that his unfavorablings are pretty high as well for -- >> he is not beloved by the republican party but trump is speaking -- his message right now is resonating with people because even though the economy is getting better, people are still hurting and frustrated with washington, d.c. and when they hear the straight talk from
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donald trump it makes them feel better. >> listen. governor george pataki sent this out on twitter. with all due respect to megyn kelly the outrage of trump's divisive language is long overdue. that is one thing on twitter. you were talking earlier how it just really blew up after this comment. and that may be part of what prompted erick erickson to disinvite him based on the chatter you've seen on twitter. we have grown men on twitter calling each other names. >> in the middle of the night. >> how has this changed the atmosphere of a campaign? >> it certainly has changed politics. just in the last year, just the last couple of years. everything is a media right now. had this happened last night, as it did and no social media, we would be waking up this morning and people would start to see it appear. we would be talking about it on television and then start to
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ruminate. once he made the comment, that's when it took off. to the point about erick erickson he probably could have disinvited him but the fact he disinvited him so quickly. >> there was an invitation in place of donald trump to megyn kelly. any response? >> we haven't heard anything on that yet. i see that erick said while he invited her, he acknowledged she is busy and has a family and he would understand if she couldn't make it. >> and she is out of state. >> mark preston, thank you so much. let's talk about this a little more with cnn political commentator ben bergs and alfer jeffrey lo on re is also with us. trump also more to say. whether fox news had an agenda here. let's listen real quickly. >> well, probably. i don't know. probably. who cares. i don't really care. i do my thing and whatever it
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is. i'm leading in all of the polls, so they probably have an agenda. i'm very disappointed in fox news. i think they probably had an agenda. but certainly i don't have a lot of respect for megyn kelly. she is a lightweight and came out there reading her little script and trying to, you know, be tough and be sharp and when you meet her, you realize she is not very tough and she not very sharp. she is zippo. >> ben, megan kelly has an awful lot of people behind her. she is a star in many aspects. what is your reaction to what he had to say? >> look. i've worked with megyn kelly and she is very tough on irch that she goes at when it comes to tv. that is her job. and i think -- it's not so much that it's an attack on megyn kelly. this is what donald trump does to anyone that -- even remotely presses him on any issue. he immediately says that they are dumb, they are not very
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bright, they are stupid, they are overrated, they are incompetent. and i think the bigger issue here people need to look at is do you want someone to be president of the united states of america where if anyone challenges them, this is their reaction? can you imagine the train wreck of donald trump having to work with people on capitol hill? he talks he is a great man that can get deals done. if somebody says to him, i disagree with you, i don't think he could get any deal done when it comes to politics. i'm not surprised this happened. i think it's going to happen more often. i think when you're dealing with a narcissist like donald trump he will make fun of anybody he doesn't like. >> jeffrey, gop rival carly fiorina is tweet about this saying i stand with megyn kelly and, mr. trump, there is no excuse. do you think fiorina is at the next debate, gop debate, is
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trump going to have to change his tone with her at the debate? >> before i say what i'm going to say, let me just say, number one, i like megyn kelly a lot. i also respect erick erickson. what erick has done here is to be candid is sexist. megyn kelly is a journalist and i was disappointed in her performance the other night. why suddenly is this urge to defend women here? what about defending men? >> with all due respect, he took on a woman claiming -- >> he took on -- >> that it was hormonal. would is that not sexist? >> he took on a journalist. she asked a question -- >> did he not? >> he wait. >> wait! >> real quick! >> in nature. >> but let's be clear.
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he wouldn't have said hormones were involved if a man pressed him. he just would have ripped on the man being dumb and stupid. it is absolutely sexist to say that it had to do with hormones of a woman! >> we have serious problems in this country. and this is what we are talking about? >> don't bring up hormones -- >> ben, let's -- finish here and we will go on. >> this is what political correctness is all about and it's terribly wrong! i'll say it again. what erick erickson, let's remember he got into a tangle with megyn kelly over a women's issue so-called. she sharply took him to task. this is months ago. maybe this is his attempt to make it up to her, i don't know. this is unbelievably sexist on his part and he ought to retract it immediately! >> ben? >> your definition of sexist and mine are drastic difference. you attack somebody you say you don't like their question is one thing. when you bring up the fact that it could be based on hormones, that is a sexist comment by a
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sexist man who is also a narcissist. you can't overlook the fact that he attacked her specifically as a woman claiming that she is hormonal and dumb. that is what he did! let's be honest about it. >> ben and jeffrey, you're sticking around and more on this in a couple of minutes here. we are not going to stop talking about it. but, obviously, i think a big part of it is you have to look at what is political correctness and perhaps what is a personal attack and we will talk about that as well. gentlemen, so good to have you here. thank you for sticking around. talk to you in a bit. we talked a lot about the person who is being uninvited from this conservative gathering. what about what the event is? the issues that are being discussed? how candidates are using this forum to convey their ideas and are they landing any punches here? are they resonating with the group? plus, nasty on the democratic side as well.
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and also jeffrey lord, a political commentator and former political director for the reagan white house. we were talking about the meat and potatoes of this tailgate of the republican convention but back to where we left off here. jeffrey, you're saying that rescinding the invitation to donald trump is what is sexist, instead of saying that the reason that megyn kelly was tough with donald trump, whether that is accurate characterization or not --
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>> she is a professional. he calls men weak. >> he doesn't say it's because you are a man. >> look. look. this is what modern political correctness is all about and it's wrong. it is wrong. focus on the issues here. let's focus on iran. let's focus on the economy. let's focus on what is a conservative and what we are doing is talking about this -- i might add this -- it's a culture problem. >> hold on, ben! let him finish the sentence! >> this isn't just about right now. this kind of thing goes in the culture all of the time and that is the problem. >> all right, ben? >> i would agree with you we should be talking about iran but you can't talk about iran when you're saying that a woman that asks you a blunt question is literally, quite possibly could be on her cycle and it's because she is a woman and in the white house? explain to me --
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>> who -- >> let me finish! let me finish! in the white house, can you imagine what a colossal disaster it would be if somebody in the press corps, a woman asked him a question? what is he going to do? kick her out because she is a woman or kick out a cabinet member if she is a woman because they say they disagree with him? if he has an adviser who is a woman, you're having a bad day because you're hormonal, get out of the office? you can't argue this is sexist in its worst form by donald trump. >> the number two person in the trump organizations that runs the entire organization is eye v ivanka trump and that is a woman. >> put this into a characterization. if president trump gets a question he does not like but from a head of state, the leader of australia or another female leader in the world, the -- angela merkel, and would it be
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appropriate in that way, this is just politics, to say that, you know, what she is saying is based on sex? >> i don't xaccept the premise f the question. the head of a major company running glover the globe, he has met plenty of foreign leaders. does he do that? let's ask the question. is there any evidence that have right now? i haven't seen any. >> how many foreign leaders he is really working deals with? not many. let's be honest about that. he is not working deals with presidents of other countries! he has met them and may give them money but he is not trying to deal with a nuclear arms program or trying to make sure iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. that is a whole other level. >> thank you both. we have until 11:00 this morning. we will get to the meat and potatoes of red state. i just couldn't come back from break and leave it there with not flushing out the accusation that red state is sexist here.
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breaking news with you we are learning a defense official telling cnn right now one american service member was killed in yesterday's attack on camp integrity in afghanistan. a suspected suicide bomber killed nine in that attack. a u.s. official said the bomb was followed by insurgents with small articles. two insurgents were killed as well. the -- houses u.s. and coalition troops that help train afghan forces. you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. >> breaking news this morning. those controversial comments from donald trump, the gop front-runner, making remarks those on cnn last night, concerning debate moderator megyn kelly. as a result, trump has been booted from a republican gathering today. event organizers call his comments about kelly wrong and over the line. >> the issues of terrorism and foreign policy, it's center stage there at the red state
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gathering in atlanta. but although trump is not there, can the republican presidential candidates, the other 16, steer him out of the spotlight? also, is it more beneficial to saddle up next to him to potentially get his voters, if he drops out? or to gain some points by hitting him hard now? joining me now is political analyst jason johnson and political science professor at hiram college and also ben ferguson is sticking around with us. i want to start with you, ben. answer that question. is it more beneficial? bemove the candidate to saddle up next to him in case he drops out, you're the second choice, or be critical of him now? >> you can't control donald trump. the idea he is playing well as a teammate in the gop, if he decides to drop out, is unrealistic. we saw that from the first question during the debate, which one of you -- might run as an independent sunny raised his hands. if he could easily in three or four or five months be an
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independent. sitting next to hanim and being buddy will probably haunt you. the more he says thing about megyn kelly last night, the more you want to distance yourself. i think you have to take big shots at him and go after him consistently and make it very clear that donald trump is not anywhere close who-to-what i am or believe in and hoping he might put his arm around you and he has done national past. a lot of people he put his arm around in the past did not win their campaigns, their elections. so i don't think it's worth the risk. >> jason, we know that red state rescinded its invitation. >> right. >> you question red state in all of this and its organizer erick erickson. >> it wasn't just two years ago that he referred to the democratic convention as the vagina momnologues? this is all about moving out
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donald trump because he is not the establishment candidate and why i think he is probably going to survive some of this because this is disingenuous. this disinvite is only going to strengthen them and make the republican party look worse. >> i will say this. i would not have uninvited donald trump because these are the things he is very smart at capitalizing on. he will be able to go out and say to his supporters and others look at how much they fear me because they can't control me and i'm not the established candidate. i think this was not the best move to uninvite him. i think you bring him in there and challenge him and let him rip on you afterwards instead of saying, sorry, you can't come here. i want a great grand debate and i think donald will be able to use this to his advantage. >> is this, though, one of the points that jason is making here that this isn't just donald trump versus erick erickson, a problem party-wide? we know questions during the debate about the narrative
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against women but is there a problem inside the party they are recognizing? >> i don't think there is. i think a problem with donald trump. if you look at the other candidates, no one would come remotely close to saying anything like this. it's running for the white house and most of them are incredibly complimentary about women and had a lot of women around them working with them. >> jason nearly jumped out of his chair, ben! >> give me another candidate that said anything close to this in the gop primary. none of them have. >> we are talking about republicans in general a history. you have santorum saying things about black people and fiorina complaining about the ledbetter act and how it doesn't help them. you have candidates saying a lot about other things. you can't say trump is not an outlier. you have rick santorum who said black people are parasites. >> we are not talking about him! >> one at a time. >> you have carly fiorina who
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talked about the lily ledbetter act is condescending to women and doesn't they them although it's a bill to help people. no matter how much you talk, ben, you can't deny the fact that trump represents your party. >> ben, the floor is yours. >> donald trump does not represent my party. it's pretty obvious i cannot stand donald trump because i think he is a fraud and narcissist candidate and i've said that many times here. he has given insane amount of money to democratic candidates and this is one of the classic attacks and i will ask you this question -- name one other candidate, gop primary, that has said anything disparaging particularly toward women? you can't give me one. >> fiorina said the ledbetter act is condescending against women. >> shes is's a woman. >> what difference does it make? >> answer my question.
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stereotyping the republicans -- >> this guy is running for a position and he should be allowed to represent himself, not be silenced because he says things that seem unpopular. that's not democratic. >> we will continue this conversation throughout the morning. ben and jason, appreciate your both. also the republican presidential contenders will debate here on cnn next month, wednesday, september 16th. the democrats will hold their first debate here on cnn tuesday, october 13th. this morning, president obama is in martha's vineyard and apparently enjoying vacation time after what has been a pretty grueling week, pitching the iran deal to congress. the republican-controlled congress said they will say no. the president has said he will veto it. chuck schumer, a democrat, is saying no to the deal as well. i want to bring in sunlen serfaty.
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in the president's word squishy to the deal to sustain his veto. will schumer's opposition make a difference to those laboring this point. >> reporter: he could. schumer is the highest ranking jewish member on capitol hill and his voice goes a long way, especially for the democrats still undecided on this deal. it was also the way that he so strongly voiced his opposition, releasing a lengthy statement and ticking through his ration national for not supporting this deal that could pave the way for other democrats to do the same. a more aggressive push by the white house this week to build support. interviews with the president, speeches by administration officials and meetings with members of congress. >> the reason that mitch mcconnell and the rest of the folks in his caucus who oppose this, jumped out and opposed it before they even read it. before it was even posted.
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that is reflective of a ideological commitment not to get a deal done. in that sense, they do have a lot in common with hard liners who are much more satisfied with the status quo. >> my view of this instead of this crass rhetoric we should treat this with the dig it deserves. >> reporter: much of the lobbying campaign is at undecided congressional democrats sustain a veto if they pass a resolution of disapproval. but some confidence now coming from democrats indicating they think they will end up having the needed votes. for the white house, welcome news this week with a series of leading senate democrats coming out in favor of the agreement. but a setback with influential jewish senator chuck schumer revealed his opposition writing, quote, i believe iran will not change and under this agreement, it will be able to achieve its
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dual goals. >> the announcement that was not -- was not particularly surprising to anybody here at the white house. even if it was disappointing. >> reporter: with congress out of town, both parties accept pointed questions at town halls during the congressional recess, which could go far in influencing the debates. congress will be back from recess in early september and debating this deal will be their first order of business. president is on vacation for the next two weeks. during that time, the white house says he will not likely be directly engaged but they say their line is always open to lawmakers. >> sunlen, appreciate it very much. thank you. by the way, president obama sat down with cnn's fareed zakaria. to watch the full interview, watch tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn.
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42 minutes past the hour. in case you missed it, breaking news about donald trump this morning. he has been dumped from a conservative event because of comments that he made on cnn last night about megyn kelly.
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well, just a couple of moments ago the rnc chairman commented about that. >> do you agree with erick erickson's question that megyn kelly was tough on trump because she was hormonal? >> i think megyn kelly asks tough questions because she is megyn kelly. if you watch her show any night she is a tough questioner and i think the comments that were made as the package eluded to or made late last night, i think mr. trump, part of the reason that he gets the plort that opu has is because he is not politically correct and what goes with that he has to be more careful with his words. i think no question he needs to immediately clarify that comment. >> and do you renounce those comments then? >> look. i know -- my job is not to renounce comments or not. i think he needs to clarify that. if he stands by them, that is
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highly inappropriate. >> we will continue to follow the story. you have had so much to say about it and we are all reading it on twitter. we appreciate the insight you're sending to us as well and please continue to do that. at the top of the hour we are talking to a spokesperson for the red state gathering about this disinvitation as well. >> the latest on the search for mh-370 and crews on reunion island are ramping up search efforts for that missing malaysian flight and extending their search by area, land, sea as well today. this is coming as officials are sending mixed messages about debris that has been found already. a source tells cnn that paris officials have not received any other relevant objects unless the wing you see here and a suitcase. malaysian investigators stuck to their guns yesterday insisting they found more debris,
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including a seat cushion. erin mclaughlin is on reunion island and following the latest in the search efforts. what is the latest here, erin? >> reporter: the search effort is intensifying around reunion island. france has sent in a helicopter, surveillance plane, as well as people to search the shores. now when this was all first announced, reunion island really didn't have the resources to be able to conduct a thorough search. i was actually out on a search and rescue boat and the people on that boat were volunteers and they were mostly relying on word-of-mouth. now that we know that that flaperon, according to the french, is most likely from mh-370, they have sent in additional resources. now, malaysia has sent in, as you mentioned, their own team. prior to that they conducted their own searches of the shore line and transportation ministry saying they have found a number of items, including window materials, aluminum and they say is from a plane.
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although they are not directly linking that to mh-370 at this time. we know, according to the malaysians, they handed over all of those items to the french and the french are saying that they have received items from experts and they are also saying they have received items from regular people who have been volunteering their time and searching for debris on the coastline. they say they have collected all of those and keeping them in plastic cases, but nothing so far they say has waernted sending on to paris for further analysis. they are saying that the items that have been collected so far are complex and need to be looked at further. >> erin mclaughlin there on reunion island there for us, thank you so much. new information is the hunt for el chapo who escaped from prison about a month ago, remember. now, so many people in mexico who believe the government helped the feared drug lord escape from a maximum security prison. we are talking to a former dea agent who went undercover in mexico to infiltrate the
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well, the u.s. is offering a $5 million reward for this man, mexican drug lord joaquin guzman, better known as el chapo. he's been on the run ever since escaping from a maximum security mexican prison back on july 11th. now, the authorities there say he slipped through a hole in a shower in his cell, then made his way out through a secret tunnel. this was video, obviously, in
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his cell, just before that happened. some people say that cannot be the whole story. michael vehill is joining me now, former chief of international operations for the dea, now senior vice president of stability operations group at sos international. michael, we're so grateful to have you with us. thank you. first of all, what's your theory about how he escaped? >> well, quite frankly, there was collusion by prison authorities in terms of facilitating his escape. he did escape through a mile-long tunnel. but quite frankly, i was very shocked that the prison officials did not react to the hammering when they were breaking into el chapo guzman's cell, because they punched the 20-inch by 20-inch hole through heavy, heavy concrete that was probably about 4 to 6 inches in thickness. >> so, what do you think authorities need to do to catch him? >> well, i think that, you know,
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the u.s. drug enforcement administration, the fbi and other federal agencies have to work daily with the mexican military and the federal police in terms of identifying vulnerabilities of his organization, the sinaloa cartel, and basically, go after his entire infrastructure. they have to collapse the infrastructure so that chapo guzman will be, you know, easier captured. because right now, you know, he's got his entire infrastructure completely intact. >> well, not only that, but if they were intact in some regard while he was in prison, what kind of resources does he have to elude police outside of prison? i mean, how -- it was, what, a decade before he was caught last time he escaped? >> well, what happened is, he's got a tremendous stronghold in his home state of sinaloa.
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he's protected there by the people because they look at him as a robin hood. and i think -- >> so, do you believe that's where he is, or do you believe he's in the u.s.? >> oh, he's not in the u.s., you know. he's certainly probably in the state of sinaloa where he's protected. and i've been into those mountains. it's rugged terrain, so it's very difficult to generate an operation, either helicopter assault, or if you move in there but through land vehicles, he's going to know within minutes. >> so, and real quickly, there's this theory. we were showing the video of the tunnel. but there is a theory out there that the tunnel was just an elaborate roos, that he walked out of prison because of the cohorts that he had there. do you think there is any plausible truth to that? >> no. you have to understand that mexico is the land of conspiracy. there is no truth to that. had he been able to walk away as they indicate through the prison, he would have done that much sooner. you know, the tunnel was
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constructed specifically to facilitate his escape. but again, you know, people talk about blueprints through the prison. he was given access to a cell phone. and through that, they were able to pinpoint the exact coordinates to his prison cell, and that's how they were able to get into the shower area, which was not covered by the security cameras. >> hmm, all right. michael vigil, so appreciate your insight on this. thank you for taking the time to talk with us. >> thank you. >> sure. all right, a conservative event dumps donald trump for comments he made on cnn about debate moderator megyn kelly. we'll speak with a spokesperson for that group that disinvited him. also, new next hour, another controversial, fatal police shooting. but this time, the victim is an unarmed white teenager. and some people are asking, where's the outrage now? ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number.
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the san francisco 49ers apparently had enough with outside linebacker aldon smith. the team cut the star footballer after he was arrested thursday
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night for hit-and-run, dui and vandalism. now, this is just the latest in really a string of off-the-field problems for him. >> yeah, cnn sports' cory wire has been following aldon's rise and now these new troubles. >> a superstar difference-maker on the field, he's been a trouble-maker off of it. there have been five run-ins with the law since being drafted by the team in 2011. they finally cut ties. a lot of people on social media are thinking that these players are given too many opportunities. their celebrtian status is trumping morals, ethics and good old common sense. we wanted to know, how many opportunities should a star athlete get? you had a lot to say on #newdaycnn and our facebook page. bill said "owners should only give one chance to these overpaid, pompous athletes. after all, lots of them are thugs! why treat them differently?" april said "i believe in second chances and aldon smith has had plenty. he's incredibly talented, but needs help."
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and "kids learn they can only get a slap on the wrist instead of consequences when nfl keeps letting players get many do-overs." brooke said "he should probably just get one chance, especially when it comes to the danger that follows him around." john, mike, andy and darren on the facebook page, we see you, michelle, bob and judith also on twitter, we will get to you. we'll have more comments in the next hour. use #newdaycnn or visit our facebook page. we love when you join the conversation. >> we certainly do. cory wire, thank you so much. stay right here. we've got a busy morning of news. >> the next hour of your "new day" starts right now. she's a lightweight. i couldn't care less about her. >> we are following breaking news. donald trump continuing to lash out after the first big gop debate. his comments on cnn tonight last night sparking a conservative gathering to pull his invitation. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood
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coming out of her wherever. >> organizers of the event calling trump hostile, saying trump's criticism of a fox debate moderator crossed the line of decency, calling his actions just plain wrong. >> trump blaming his ouster on weakness and political correctness, dismissing the gathering's importance and vowing to make another campaign stop today. >> whoo! what a morning it's been already. we're grateful to have you along for the ride. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. always good to start a saturday with you. >> let's talk about the reaction to the breaking news we've been following all morning, donald trump disinvited to a conservative event after comments he made last night on cnn. the comments were about debate moderator megyn kelly. now, if you'll remember, during that debate, she pressed trump about past controversial comments concerning women. here's what trump said about kelly to cnn's don lemon. >> i don't have a lot of respect for megyn kelly. she's a lightweight. and you know, she came out there
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reading her little script and trying to, you know, be tough and be sharp. and when you meet her, you realize she's not very tough and she's not very sharp. she's zippo. well, i just don't respect her as a journalist. i have no respect for her. i don't think she's very good. i think she's highly overrated. but when i come out there, what am i doing? i'm not getting paid for this. i go out there, and you know, they start saying lift up your arm if you're going to -- and then, you know, i didn't know there would be 24 million people. i figured, but i knew it was going to be a big crowd because i get big crowds, i get ratings. they call me the ratings machine. so, i have -- you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. and you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. >> a spokesman for trump had this to say after learning he was kicked out of the event -- "this is just another example of weakness through being politically correct. for all of the people who were looking forward to mr. trump
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coming, we will miss you. blame erick erickson, your weak and pathetic leader." joining us now to discuss trump's comments and the event's decision to rescind this invitation is munoz, one of the organizers of the red state gathering. first, your reaction to mr. trump's comments about -- the response, rather, to the rescinding of the invitation. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> sure. good morning. >> well, the response to mr. trump's comments, just plain inappropriate, plain and simple. we're very sorry to have to disinvite him for this, but we're looking forward to having a great day, day two of the red state gathering. it's been an amazing event so far, and we've got a lot more good stuff to come today. >> so, do you stand by erick erickson's comments in the past that have been quite controversial, calling the democratic convention vagina monologues, saying that, you know, using the term feminazis
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and describing some as too ugly to get a date, that ugly women go back to the kitchen? i mean, if he describes what mr. trump has said is sexist, how does he then, you know, justify his own comments? >> you know, erick is a brand all on his own. he's a very influential conservative writer, and as part of town hall media, the umbrella organization, i'm part of a team of journalists who have varying opinions on just about everything. so, here today at the gathering, we're focused on having an excited, positive message for conservatives who are really looking forward to putting forward a nominee who can get us through to 2016. >> i understand that, and you are with a group who is now aligned with redstate, and you've come on to speak about this decision to rescind the invitation, but i'll take another turn of that question. erick erickson, who has said that this has crossed a line, has made comments of his own. do you believe that erick erickson should apologize for
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those comments that some should have called sexist? >> erick can speak for himself, and he does. erick's a father. he's a husband. and he represents our team well. he took a stand for women last night and he took a stand for the republican party, and quite frankly, the country in general. we just don't stand for misogynistic messages, and we're looking forward to having a great day. >> okay. so, let me ask you this, what do you believe the impact of the comments that donald trump made here on cnn last night will be on republican women, registered republican voters in the last cnn poll, picked him over every other candidate running this year. what will be the impact? >> i think we'll start seeing the front-runners come out. this is just the beginning. we have a very, very busy primary season and we're going to see the other players move forward. the game's just beginning, so we'll see folks pulling forward and moving back as months go on.
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>> all right. national committee communications director for the rnc, shawn spicer, was asked about mr. trump's comments this morning on "today." listen. >> do you renounce those comments then? >> look, i know -- my job is not to renounce comments or not. i think he needs to clarify that. if he stands by them, that is highly inappropriate. i'm hoping that mr. trump, because he does speak off the cuff, because he doesn't ascribe to political correctness, was speaking in a way that wasn't fully thought out, but he needs to clarify that first thing this morning. >> do you expect, or are you hoping for a stronger response from the party about mr. trump's comments? >> you know, i think trump speaks for himself. we asked for a clarification last night. we just didn't get it. so, the party as a whole will move forward. i think you'll see the other candidates come out. we saw carly fiorina support megyn kelly last night.
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so, i think this is a great opportunity for the other folks in the lineup to really take a stand on what they think they want the party to represent moving forward. >> all right. amanda munoz, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thanks for being here. >> and we'll talk more about redstate throughout the morning. >> wonderful. thank you. >> all right. >> all right, and we should point out, we've been looking at twitter and what people are saying today as well. somebody tweeted back to erick erickson when he had announced that he had rescinded the invitation to donald trump, "then i hereby rescind the last shred of support for you and redstate." so, i think as we look at this, you have to wonder if this is going to hurt redstate, the fact that they rescinded. we had ben ferguson on earlier saying this is just bringing more attention to it. >> and plays right into his narrative, trump. >> plays right into his game plan, essentially. >> yeah, yeah. let's bring in cnn politics executive editor mark preston, live outside, where today's event will take place. so, we heard from someone with,
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or a group who's part of this event today, and lots of reaction coming in from both sides. >> yeah, no doubt. i mean, listen, since this happened so late last night, victor, i think a lot of people here are waking up and just finding out about it themselves. and it will be interesting to see now over the next couple of hours how folks here interpret what mr. trump said. the folks here tend to support mr. trump's really blunt style and his antiestablishment talk. so, it will be interesting to hear what they have to say that he has been disinvited to attend this event. >> so, let's talk more about the event. what are we expecting to hear and see today? >> so, what we have here is about between 900 and 1,000 activists. they come from all across the country. these are primarily conservatives, social conservatives in many ways. they come here to talk politics and policy, but they're mostly going to hear from nine presidential candidates, candidates who just debated on
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thursday night in cleveland, but yet, they felt it was important to come down here to talk to this group. and the reason why is because these are the folks, victor, that go back home, they're the ones who knock on doors, make telephone calls, talk to their friends. this is what you would call the republican base. we talk about the republican base a lot. the folks here that are attending this conference really are the base of the party. >> this morning from gop rival donald trump, carly fiorina, who spoke at the event last night. she's tweeting comments, saying that "i stand with megyn kelly. mr. trump, there is no excuse." do you think fiorina the next time at the cnn debate, that that will be, i don't want to say confrontation, but that will be the exchange that most people will be looking forward to? >> well, i mean, it remains to be seen whether carly fiorina will qualify to be on the debate stage with donald trump. on thursday night, she did appear in the fox debate, but she appeared in the first part of the fox debate. she did not appear on stage with donald trump, who is the
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front-runner for the republican nomination. really, what's going to be interesting, too, to see is over the next couple of hours, will we start to see the other rivals for the republican presidential nomination coming out and being critical of donald trump? they'll have the opportunity. several of them are coming here to speak -- jeb bush, scott walker, mike huckabee. they'll all have the opportunity and surely will be asked that question from the stage, whether they agree with what donald trump said last night about megyn kelly. >> all right, mark preston there outside where the event will be held today. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> all righty. and we certainly appreciate all the thoughts that are coming in on this because they are being tweeted fast and furious, and we love to hear from you. so, please go ahead and let us know your thoughts as well. they're important to us. you know, with all the controversy, too, over these remarks, not just last night but even at the republican debate, the big question is, are there going to be changes in the way that candidates handle the next debate? >> yeah, coming up, we'll take a look at debate strategies and what donald trump can do to
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and first of all, i wanted to ask you, and thank you for being here, ed. >> thank you for having me. >> what was your initial takeaway after thursday's debate, specifically of donald trump? >> i initially thought that he was in over his heels, that the debate is a stage where people are interested in substance, having a conversation about policy choices, and that he is an entertainer. he is interested in theatrics. and that in three hours gets old, particularly when it's being contrasted by politicians who were forwarding some policy suggestions and engaging in a way that met the expectations for the debate format. >> we should say, though, people resonated, or trump resonated with an awful lot of people. he is still, as far as we can tell based on polls, the front-runner. this is, in fact, how trump says that he's preparing for the september debate now on cnn. >> why should i prepare differently? you know, preparing for debate's
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hard because there's so much knowledge you have to have that you wouldn't be able to prepare. i mean, you can't, you know, study in one week what you've learned over a lifetime. >> if you were able to sit down with trump, if he was open to getting some advice, what would you say to him? >> i would say two things. one is that you've capped where you're at in the polls, that you do -- >> you don't think he's going to go any further? >> no, not with the current strategy. that he does have a way to contrast himself with the other candidates, that he can speak about being a job-creator. he can speak about being the sole businessperson who's in the race who can actually win at this particular juncture, and that is something that would resonate with a larger pool of folks who are out there in the voting public. at this particular juncture, the vitri vitriol, the bombastic language, the toting the line and carrying the torch of sort of being the
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hyper masculine defender of incivility, it's not going to get him any closer or higher than the 20% he's at, and it runs a risk of reducing that. >> let's talk about this, he's not the only candidate who's on that stage. there may be candidates standing there thinking, how am i going to get my time in, you know, when he is garnering all the attention that he is. what would you say to other candidates to make sure that their voices are heard in the debates? >> it depends on where the candidates are in the polls. i think that john kasich did a fantastic job, and the reason why some people are talking about him now is that he contrasted himself very well with donald trump and being hyper aggressive. his folksy, commonsensical ways of engaging in politics was awesome, because there are so many other people who were being very aggressive in the way in which they engaged each other, whether it was trump or rand paul or chris christie, that john kasich came off as being quite refreshing.
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>> mm-hmm. you know, what happens to, as we look at what's happened since the debate and what's happening just overnight and moving forward, all of the riffraff, all of the name-calling that's happening -- what happened to respectful debating? it's almost as though it's gone out the window because it doesn't garner attention. >> i think that in some ways you're asking me a question about sort of a larger set of cultural dynamics that are at play. >> yes, yes. >> that in many ways that social media has come to inform the way in which we engage each other, that it's the creation of a persona, and we no longer exist in a society where we have filters and the notion of respectability is maligned. donald trump even said, i don't have time for pc. america doesn't have time for pc. >> do you see what -- do you believe what we're hearing from him is political correctness, or is it beyond that? >> i believe that it is not just a rejection of political
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correctness, but it is endemic of a set of social norms, particularly in dealing with women, that doesn't see women as having the capacity to lead or having -- or even being in a place in which women should -- we should entertain their voices. and i think that it's a larger problem that the republican party is seeing and even responding to this morning. >> interesting. we'll have to see how it all plays out. ed lee, we appreciate your insight. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> sure. a reminder, the next gop debate, september 16th right here on cnn. a powerful typhoon is leaving behind widespread damage in taiwan. we've got these massive floods, landslides, and there are some pretty dramatic rescues happening right now. we've got the latest developments there. also, look at this. sparks here, fire coming out of an american airlines jet. the engine here. we'll explain this in a moment. no student's ever photographed mean ms. colegrove. but your dell 2-in-1 laptop gives you the spunk for an unsanctioned selfie.
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this video. thankfully, that airbus 320 was able to land, make an emergency landing in philadelphia, specifically, and there were no reported injuries. james holmes will spend the rest of his life in prison. the jury could not reach a unanimous sentencing verdict for the death penalty. you'll remember, holmes admitted to killing 12 people and injuring 70 others during this 2012 shooting rampage at an aurora movie theater, but he pleaded not guilty because of insanity. a typhoon is barreling towards china now, this after pounding taiwan with fierce winds and heavy rain. take a look at what it was dealing with. at least four people have died as a result of this storm. and among them, a mother and a daughter who were swept away in the sea. the girl's twin sister is also missing. that typhoon injured dozens of others. >> and to find out how you can help the people there in taiwan recover from the typhoon, go to our website, cnn.com/impact. our "impact your world" page has links to the organizations on the ground there in the hardest hit areas.
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you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. >> breaking news this morning after those controversial comments from donald trump, the gop front-runner made the remarks on cnn just last night concerning debate moderator megyn kelly. well, as a result, trump's been booted from a republican gathering tonight, an event organi organizers call his comments about kelly wrong and over the line. we are waiting for redstate's erick erickson, who disinvited trump from that event, to speak publicly about his decision. he's expected to do so at any time, and we're going to take those comments live when he steps up to the podium. we're also following some breaking news. a defense official telling cnn one american service member was killed in yesterday's attack on camp integrity in afghanistan.
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a suspected suicide bomber killed a total of nine people in the attack. a u.s. official says the bomb was followed by insurgents with small arms and two insurgents were killed as well. the base houses u.s. and coalition troops that help train afghan forces there. a senior u.s. intelligence official tells cnn isis may be trying to increase its capability to carry out mass casualty attacks. obviously, this would be a significant shift in their strategy, and so far, they've been focused, of course, on encouraging lone wolf attacks. well, the u.s. effort to train rebels in syria to fight isis is also running into trouble. a senior u.s. intelligence official tells cnn that the relatively few rebels that have been trained are in disarray, they're missing, or they're deserting their units. let's dig into all this with our military experts, lieutenant colonel robert mcginnis, and cnn military analyst, lieutenant colonel rick francona. good to have you both back with us. >> good morning. >> thank you. >> so, i want to start with you, lieutenant colonel francona. why do you expect that this is
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happening? there were so few -- i think the number was 60 of these syrian rebels that had been trained for tens of millions of dollars. why is this happening? >> yeah, this is a real problem. and if you talk to people at the pentagon, they say the problem has been the vetting. they don't want to train anybody that's going to end up going over to the other side. but i think what we're seeing with this initial cadre that went back in, that's exactly what has happened. many of them were kidnapped, a lot of them deserted. they came with the intent that we were going to train them, they were going to go back and fight isis. when their real intention all along was to go back and fight the al assad government. so, this thing has just been poorly run, poorly managed and poorly executed from the get-go. it is a failure and we need to step back and start over. >> all right. lieutenant colonel mcginnis, i want you to listen to what republican white house hopeful senator rand paul said and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i've been fighting amidst a lot of opposition from both
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hillary clinton as well as some republicans who wanted to send arms to the allies of isis. isis rides around in $1 billion worth of u.s. humvees. it's a disgrace. we've got to stop it. we shouldn't fund our enemies, for goodness sakes! so, we didn't create isis. isis created themselves, but we will stop them. and one of the ways we stop them is by not funding them and by not arming them. >> so, the senator says that the u.s. should not arm and fund isis. i'm sure all people would agree with that. is this a strong man or does he have some larger points that you agree with here? >> well, the issue here, victor, is that, of course, we equip the iraqis, who lost a lot of equipment in mosul when isis went in. the same thing in ramadi. they just kind of left and isis took over a lot of equipment. and now, you know, we've spent $42 million of the $500 million
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allocation for the rebels that were trained and now have disappeared from the battlefield or captured by al nusra, the al qaeda affiliate. it doesn't look good. and yet, you know, what alternative do we have? the president's strategy is very clear -- air campaign and then use indigenous forces on the ground. the iraqis we're still training. the syrians are very disappointing at this point. and rick is right, it's very difficult to vet these people and to ensure that they're going to do what they're supposed to do. ash carter, the secretary of defense, was over there a couple of weeks ago, over in iraq, trying to ascertain the will of the iraqi security forces to do the fight. and that's hard to measure. so, what do you do? you want to send american troops over there? i don't think we have a taste for that. but yet, you've got to have ground forces supported by air forces if you're going to destroy isis, which i think ultimately is what the president wants to do.
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>> colonel francona, quickly, on this shift of isis from these lone wolf attacks to mass casualty attacks. one of the things that we've heard from intelligence analysts and from those who know the group well is that this was very effective to simply put out the call and have people attack where they are. if they shift to these mass casualty attacks, there will be the chatter that investigators can use to try to capture them in the planning, is that right? >> well, you would hope so. and i don't think it's a shift, victor, i think it's more of an addition. they're going to continue doing what works, and the lone wolf attacks work for them, but they're going to go for the bigger attacks now that they have space where they can open camps, they can do the training, they can gather the resources. we've known all along what their intentions are. they just didn't have the capability to do it. so, i think it's incumbent on the intelligence community to keep watch of them, and when they detect these training camps, use the airpower against it. and bob brings up a very good point, air power with indigenous ground forces is very difficult to do.
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we tried in afghanistan with limited success, but we're not having much success in the syria/iraq environment. >> lieutenant colonel rick francona and lieutenant colonel robert mcginnis, thank you both. in the next hour, there will be a silent march in ferguson marking the one year since michael brown was shot and killed by officer darren wilson. we're talking with one of the organizers about where things stand in ferguson now and what activists say still needs to be done. also, an unarmed, white teenager is fatally shot by police and his family is now demanding that his killing be treated like the recent shootings of unarmed black men. that discussion is ahead. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul?
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in a little while, a little more than an hour, we'll see the start of the silent march in ferguson to mark a year since michael brown was shot and killed by officer darren wilson. activists will walk from the campfield drive, the place where the unarmed teenager lay dead for hours, to normandy high school, where brown graduated. brown's death became a symbol for the black lives matter moveme movement. and a lot of things have changed in ferguson since august 9th of last year. a key change, a new police chief. cnn's sara sidner spoke with him. >> reporter: does ferguson have a racist view? is there a problem within the department? >> i think that in the department there are individuals and fascists that don't understand the community. but in fact, there have been some issues with respect to having race problems. there has been. and i think that the police department is doing a good job, has done a good job at getting
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rid of people that have caused those types of problems. >> we'll have more of sara's interview in the next hour. you heard the new police chief there saying the city has done a good job getting rid of people found culpable of causing race problems in ferguson or dealing with them, we should say. have things really changed, though? joining us is the field organizer for the organization for black struggle, kayla reid. kayla, we appreciate you being here. thank you. can you let me know, based on what we just heard there, what changes have you seen? do you think that the police department has made some significant changes? >> so, i think the most significant thing that we've seen in ferguson since august 9th, 2014, is definitely the removal of some figure heads, the city manager, the former police chief, jackson, and hiring this new chief. however, most of the officers that were staffed last year during the killing of mike brown are still on the force.
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so, there's still a lot that needs to be changed that hasn't been addressed yet. >> so, you think there are still things. what specifically would you like to see addressed, other than that? >> well, i think that ferguson is still operating as the same ferguson that it was preaugust 9th. you're still seeing high numbers of people pulled over in the municipality. the municipality court is still operating as a debt-collecting agency. the mayor is still intact. city council just actually revoked the first proposal of change from the department of justice. so, i think that there is resistance on the side of ferguson city officials to actually invoke the change that the community's saying they want to see. >> have businesses recovered at all since the protests? >> i think that some businesses are thriving. on west florissant, you saw a lot of people standing in support of the protests. on south florissant, where we are now, you see they've proactively blocked businesses that have never had any incidents. but i think that a lot of things
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are returning to business as usual for the businesses, but the culture of ferguson is very much the same. >> well, we understand officers are wearing body cameras now. do you support that? do you think that that has improved accountability in any way? >> i think that body cameras are a step toward accountability. i don't think that it's the solution. i think that what body cameras have done in last few months is actually exposed the truth that people have been saying for a very long time. so, we saw that in south carolina with walter scott and again in cincinnati with sam dubose. so, i think that cameras are a step toward accountability, but there are other measures that need to be taken to ensure that people are not dying at the hands of police. >> kayla, let me ask you this, do you get a sense that the residents there in ferguson are hopeful of where the city is headed? and do you feel like your voice has been heard? >> so, i think a long time ago, we talked about it being two fergusons, the side where campfield resides and then the side where the police
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department, is and i think those two fergusons are still having very serious tensions about coming to the same conclusion on what they want their city to look like. i do think that we as organizers have been fighting very hard to get people's voice, the black community's voice at the table with the department of justice to talk about what they want to see with the ferguson police department. and i think that we've gained some traction with that. >> okay. well, kayla reed, we really appreciate hearing your perspective. good luck with everything there and thank you so much for taking time to talk with us. >> thank you. >> absolutely. take care. >> thanks. and we're going to talk about another controversial, fatal police shooting, but this time, the victim is an unarmed, white teenager, and it's got some people asking, where's the outrage? and with all the fear and the fallout over donald trump's recent controversial statements about megyn kelly and other women, does he now need to make a change? should the other candidates make some changes? a debate scholar weighs in, ahead.
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police say it was self defense, claiming the teenager was behind the wheel, accelerating, driving toward the officer, but the teen's parents say no. they're saying an autopsy can prove that police are lying. the story is just now making national headlines, despite the fact that hammond was shot nearly two weeks ago. hammond's parents say it's because he's white. nick valencia is following this story for us this morning. nick? >> hey, there, victor. this all happened in late july when 19-year-old zachary hammond was on a date with 23-year-old tori morton. morton was the target of a drug sting, and that's when according to a police report, they showed up, their guns were drawn. and hammond, according to police, used his car and attempted to drive that towards one of the officers. that prompted him to open fire, shooting that young man, that 19-year-old, twice. now, the family says they just don't buy what police are saying. they are looking for answers, so they launched their own independent autopsy, and that autopsy concluded that their son was shot from behind and at close range. i interviewed them yesterday and
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they say they're still looking for answers. >> in fact, when they went to the police department to get a copy of the police report, the police chief actually let them in. and when he found out that they were the hammonds, he closed the door and went back into his office and never said a word to them. >> never spoke to us. >> they've left this family totally in the dark. >> shortly after this incident, the police chief did offer his condolences to the family, but he is standing by his officer, saying that that officer, lieutenant mark tiller, was the victim of attempted murder. south carolina law enforcement division is investigating this, and we've reached out to them to try to get dash cam footage, which we know exists. they say that that's part of the ongoing investigation and will not be releasing it at this time. victor? >> all right, nick valencia reporting for us. nick, thank you. >> so, the shooting death of zachary comes amid the heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country. americans are debating after each incident, was shooting and killing the unarmed suspect the
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only option? here's what the officer's chief had to say about that. >> it's a horrible situation. i mean, you get put in a predicament sometimes. you know when you sign up to become a police officer that that potential is there during your career that you may have to use deadly force. >> all right, cnn law enforcement analyst sedrick alexander is with us now. based on what you have heard about this, what is your first thought? >> well, you know, here's an incident that occurred in south carolina. and i think one thing, in all fairness to the police officers and the family involved as well, too, is that we really have to wait and see what this independent investigation reveals, because sometimes we may jump to conclusions around this case. however, here is what's concerning, i think, to most people. we have another young person, in this case happens to be a white teen that was shot by police. so, the question becomes, again, is this a matter of lack of training, or is it a matter of
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abuse by a police department? we can't answer those questions as of yet. but i think one of the major concerns, and black america has been saying this for a very, very long time, because black teens and black young people, as we've heard over the last number of years, particularly over the last year, have suffered. we have seen this country struggle with a number of shootings involving black young men. however, in this case, we're talking about a white young man. but each one of these lives are very important. and when you think about it, if we're going to raise our voice about this issue, if anyone's going to raise their voice about this issue, you have to raise the voice on the issue as it relates to all human beings, and that is really important. >> i saw, there are so many tweets on this. kevin daniels tweeted, "#zacharyhammond. a cop killed a white teen and the all lives matter crowd said nothing." another tweet -- "when a black person's fighting for justice
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and tweets #blacklivesmatter, we are also fighting justice for every race as well, #zacharyhammond." where are people outraged? people are wondering, where is the outrage over this? >> i think, you know -- >> is it just because he was white? >> no, i don't think it's that. i think typically, it's going to be this. there has been a longstanding separation between the black community and the police, and we've seen an abundance of these cases. some have been subtle, some have not, that are still under active investigation. in this case, you have a white male. many people will see that as being an anomaly. however, if you bring all these cases together, however, and if we're trying to inform our relationships between police and community, then every organization, regardless of who that organization is, black lives matter, whomever, we should have a concern about the civil rights and human rights of all people. it's not that we know for certain police did anything wrong here. that is a very difficult -- >> but there is the county
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coroner who classified the death a homicide and the private autopsy concluded both bullets were from behind, so what does that conclusion leave for the police department? because it doesn't sound good on the surface. >> on the surface, it may not sound good, you're absolute slooutly right, but we still have to remember this is under investigation by the state of south carolina. >> right. >> and until we draw that conclusion. but here again, the emphasis and the thrust of this conversation is more around the fact that a young life has been lost. people are very concerned about it. and we, all of us as citizens in this country, even police officials like myself in communities across the country should pay attention to it, have concern about it and find a voice as to how we help to prevent these types of incidents, if they were deemed to be unnecessary. >> to be unnecessary. and a lot of -- really interesting to see so many people supporting #blacklivesmatter on twitter. also outraged about this as well. so, it does seem a lot of coming together of people, which could be a good thing.
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cedric alexander, appreciate you being here, as always. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you so much. victor? a jury chooses life in prison over the death penalty for james holmes, the man who shot and killed 12 people in a colorado movie theater. new this morning, we hear from one of those jurors who had to make the emotional decision. so, stay with us for that. and breaking this hour, donald trump responds on social media to the fallout over his attack on fox's megyn kelly. in just the last ten minutes. we've got it for you in just a moment. [music]
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edging toward the 9:00 hour here, and senator chuck schumer says that he will not support the iran deal. he made the announcement after president obama spent a week pitching the iran path to congress. the republican-controlled congress says they will say no to the deal, which the president has pledged to veto. president obama sat down with cnn's fareed zakaria this week for an exclusive interview. now, to watch the full thing, we want to let you know to be sure to watch "fareed zakaria gps" tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. a texas man is being forced
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to marry his girlfriend or spend 15 days in jail. okay, here's the story. a smith county judge also ordered the 19-year-old, jostin bundy, to write bible verses and get counseling. he was charged with assault for fighting his ex-girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. our affiliate, kltv, spoke to an attorney who said the order to marry is not legal. the san francisco 49ers parted ways with aldon smith after being arrested for hit-and-run, dui and vandalism. smith's football career has been marred by off-the-field problems. he was suspended for nine games last season for violating the nfl's personal conduct and substance abuse policies as well. listen, glad to have you this morning with us, and we have a lot more coming up. >> yeah, don't go anywhere. we are coming back here in just a moment. a moment. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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so, donald trump dumped. a major gathering of conservative voters kicking off right now without the republican front-runner. hear the cnn interview that got trump disinvited. ferguson one year later. cnn sits down with the man now leading the most scrutinized police department in america, at least one of them, as the ferguson community remembers michael brown's death. and sentencing shock. the aurora, colorado, theater shooter going to prison for life. why one juror says james holmes will not be put to death. you are in the "cnn newsroom." and we want to wish you a very good morning. hope saturday's been good to you so far. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. always good to start the morning with you. getting a lot of reaction to the breaking news we've been following all morning, including donald trump's reaction on social media. >> donald trump disinvited, of course, from a conservative event after comments that

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