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much. great watching you this morning. hello, everyone. it is the 11:00 eastern hour. i'm fredricka whitfield. "newsroom" starts right now. oh, donald trump, he is at it again. his comments to cnn last night getting him dumped from a conservative political gathering in atlanta tonight. here is what he told our don lemon when asked about his feud with fox anchor, megyn kelly. >> i just don't respect her as a journalist. i have no respect for her. i don't think she is very good. i think she is highly overrated. what am i doing? i'm not getting paid for this. i go out there and they start saying, lift up your arm and then i didn't know there would be 24 million people. i knew it was going to be a big crowd. i get big crowds. i get ratings. they call me the ratings machine. so i have -- she gets out and starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. you could see there was blood copping out of her eyes, blood
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coming out of her -- wherever but she was, in my opinion, she was off base. by the way, not in my opinion. in the opinion of hundreds of thousands of people on twitter. it has been a brutal day. in one way, a great day for fox and in another day, in the twitterspear. she is a lightweight. i couldn't care less about her. then, trump tried to clarify his comments with this tweet saying, quote, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever and then adds a parenthesis, nose, just got on with thought. that's what he tweeted. it was a little too late for erik erickson, which is holding the conservative gathering today in atlanta. he said this just hours ago. >> i disinvited donald trump.
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hang on, just hang on. for those of you that haven't heard, you all deserve an explanation. i'm glad despite some of the comments that the trump team made last night. i can honestly say this event was sold out before we announced he was coming. i have given donald trump a lot of latitude. he is not a professional politician. he has been a very blunt talker. i have said some dumb things in my life. i've apologized for them. i reached out to the donald trump campaign last night and said, is mr. trump willing to apologize for clarify that he wasn't suggesting that a national reporter who asked him a tough question was having her period? and the campaign manager said, mr. trump was talking about her bleeding out of her eyes. she was bleeding everywhere all
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over mr. trump. i said, the bleeding out of the eyes part wasn't the problem. it was what came after that. the campaign manager refused to acknowledge he said that. so i told him -- he asked me to send him an e-mail. i put the exact quote in the e-mail. i said, everyone, myself included, is interpreting it this way. i think it was inappropriate. i really think it was inappropriate. i have my wife here, my daughter, 800 friends. it is a family friendly program. if he is not going to clarify this isn't what he meant, i don't think i want him at my event. so the campaign manager called me back and said, mr. trump had said, whatever.
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he was trying to move the questions along. trying to get don lemon along. at least he meant whatever. i asked him if he was going to clarify that publicly. they said no. i said, i'm sorry, i would prefer mr. trump not come to the event. immediately there after, the trump campaign. after we had reached out to them. before i got involved, our staff reached out to ask if he had actually said this. instead of responding, this he immediately sent out a press advisory that he was going to speak. that was kind of an indicator. after all of this was over, mr.le trump went on twitter and said i was a weak and pathetic leader, which is okay. i think it is weak and pathetic to take a tough question from a journalist and assume she is having her period and that's why she asked you a tough question.
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>> let's bring in mark preston outside of where the event will be unfolding. so, mark, clarity over the comments from donald trump and you are hearing from erick ericson who says this is unexcusable. what was planned for donald trump this evening, no longer. now what? >> reporter: let's just set the table. this is really just unraveling by the minute. we have seen donald trump on twitter addressing this issue in the past hour. we have seen eric ericson address the issue. i was able to speak to some attendees here to get their reaction. we saw the crowd reaction. by and large, it was received favorably. i did speak to one woman who came down all the way from indianapolis. she was upset about it.
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she is not a donald trump supporter. she said she is probably going to vote for ted cruz or scott walker but she said the media is twisting these words and that donald trump should not have been disinvited. we have heard from carly fiorina, george petaki and lindsey graham and i was able to talk to governor mike huckabee and ask him what he thought about donald trump's comments. >> you know, mark, megyn kelly was a colleague for me for 6 1/2 years when i was at fox. she is one of the most remarkable people i know, intellectually, unsurpassed as a broadcast journalist. she has great integrity. i'm going to stand for megyn kelly. >> reporter: do you think it was inappropriate? did he cross the line with that comment? >> i certainly would never say anything about a person like that. i hope he apologizes, because i think he should.
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>> there you have the remarks by former governor mike huckabee who is also seeking the republican nomination. donald trump, as i said, has been very active on social media. let me read you a quick tweet. let me read this one very quickly. it says, red state, i miss you all and thanks for all of your support. political correctness is killing our country, weakness. another day where donald trump is dominating the headlines for the republican presidential nomination. fred? >> the rnc is also asking that more needs to be said. what is this relationship between the rnc and donald trump? >> reporter: they are caught between a rock and a hard place. comments like this from donald trump are not helpful from the republican party and brand. they can't do much.
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they can't tell him he can't be part of the republican presidential race. they are just an organization. it is really going to be down to the voters. we will see whether this has really hurt donald trump. i can't imagine it will help him. you are probably going to see him slip in the polls. all they can ask is for an apology. the big concern amongst republicans is that if donald trump leaves the republican party and launches a third party bid, it allows the next president to be a democrat, perhaps hillary clinton. >> i want to bring in two more people into this conversation, jason johnson, a political science professor and cnn political commentator here. >> anna, the trump camp has released yet another statement. you have all these tweets coming from donald trump himself. now, you have the camp saying, mr. trump made megyn kelly look really bad. she was a mess with her anger
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and totally caught off guard. mr. trump is said, blaood was cg out of her eyes and whatever, nose, but wanted to move on to more important topics. only a deviant would think otherwise. a bit of a jab for those who have interpreted his comments. does this help or make it worse? >> at this point, i'm not even sure how to answer that, because it feels like you are trapped inside a telanovela called "as the trump world turns." it gets weirder and weirder. he got asked tough questions. so did everybody else. when you are running for president, your life is an open book. he doesn't have a record in politics. >> instead, he says, the
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moderator came out swinging and attacked him. >> because they asked him, for example, confronted him about his four corporate bankruptcies. he brings to the table his business acumen. i think it is a very fair question. he is a republican running for the republican president. will you pledge to not run as a third party? the questions that everybody else got asked. kasich got asked about expansion of medication. jeb bush got asked about common core immigration and his brothers war on iraq. these guys were not out there doling out puffy questions and trump is the only one complaining because he is used to being the celebrity reality show star who does not get put under scrutiny. >> the inference here is that he is being picked on. >> right, right. >> he has said before the debate whenever somebody throws punches, he has a counter punch. >> he knows how to swing back.
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we have two different issues going on. lots of tough questions were asked but i think he was held more accountable than other people. he was asked by chris wall much for follow-up. there were more trump questions. i thought it was unseamly. it is debateers that are supposed to attack each other and not the mod raytors. >> is it legs aboss about what happened and more about the response and the back and forth over whether there should be clarification or an apology? why should anyone think that donald trump is going to apologize? you don't think he should? >> i don't think he should at all. >> it is ridiculous to say he should apologize. he said he has never asked god for forgiveness. it is ridiculous that he should ask megyn kelly. this is not an isolated event. he has said offensive things about so many people that we could spend the rest of the show talking about what he said about
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mexicans oro rosie o'donnell o mexican or someone that may attack him. >> so did erik erickson. he referred to wendy davis as abortion barbie. >> erick said i made some inappropriate comments and i have acknowledged that. >> erick is no porcelain rose. >> i was not going to suggest that. >> he is a tough guy and plays hardball pol tex. i think this is the straw that broke the camel's back. mark, you are out there, here in atlanta. i want to bring you back into the conversation. the political debates are one thing. the rnc backing are one thing. he can't be disinvited. he can because this is an independent kind of forum, four-day, three-day event. is erick erickson.
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reince priebus being very delicate about how to handle donald trump. is is they're a problem on how they should reign him in, if they can or how they handle him? >> reporter: one, erick erickson and the rnc have two separate jobs. they don't like each other. they are politically aligned in the fact that they are republicans. erick represents a more conservative side than the rnc. for legal reasons, the rnc can't disinvite him for a debate. if you qualify and there is eligibility criteria, they get invited. we have seen the rnc ask for an apology. i'm not sure how much more they can do. it rests with the voters, the folks attending this red state
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gathering right behind me. quite frankly, his rivals for the republican national convention. it will be interesting what scott walker and jeb bush has to say. we have seen some of the candidates come out and chastise them. >> let's not forget this about donald trump. even folks who i talked to who were happy that donald trump was disinvited. they did make this point. it is true. donald trump is talking about issues and forcing issues into the lexicon that conservatives want to hear about even though they are not happy with the megyn kelly comment. donald trump has his supporters. let's not forget that. will he drop in the polls? very likely. who knows how far that drop is going to be? >> do we really think a very likely drop in the polls? that is hard to tell, isn't it? >> a few percentage points is a lot, certainly with a race of 17 people and everyone scratching for every vote that they can get. if you lose four or five points,
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that's significant this early on. >> mark, anna, jason, we are not done. we have more time to talk about this. we are going to take a short break and continue this conversation in a moment. you will hear what trump told cnn as a possible run for the white house as an independent candidate. i said the word. cnn hosts our first republican presidential debate on wednesday september 16th. the first democratic presidential debate will be live on tuesday, october 13th. don't miss either one the. we'll be right back. everyone loves the picture i posted of you. at&t reminds you it can wait.
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welcome back. i am joined by jason johnson, political science professor. we have been talking about donald trump's latest controversial comments that actually got him booted from this weekend's conservative held by red state.com.
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he told our don lemon last night this. >> why can't you just say, if it is a man or a woman, no matter who the nominee is, that you are going to support the republican nominee? >> because i don't choose to do so, don. what difference is it to you? i don't choose to do so. i will probably at some point do that. i'm only looking forward to one thing, to running as a republican and winning as a republican. >> if you run as a third-party candidate, the concern is that you are going to hand it over to the democratic person, whether it is hillary clinton? >> don, don't worry about it. that's not your problem. >> so what happens is look, i'm leading as a republican. it is better to run as a republican. i'm leading as a republican. that's what my choice is. if i'm treated fairly and with respect, and even if i don't get it, i would most likely go ahead and not do that.
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if, on the other hand, i am not. i might very well. at some point, i may switch over and make everybody happy. i would be happy also. with that being said, i'm being treated very nicely by the rnc and reince and everybody. they are treating me very nicely. i want a level playing field. if i get a level playing field, fairness, it is highly unlikely that i would do the other, which would be what you would call a third party. >> jason and anna back with me now. how would you describe, what are the words you would use to describe how donald trump conducted himself in that exchange? >> he sounds irritated. part of it is because that's generally speaking donald trump's personality. there is some legitimate concern. it is sort of like saying, when you don't make the playoffs, what are you going to do? he says, look, would you let me run sf. >> he says for a very long time,
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he is in it to win it. >> i think the questions are for a third party, he is a bit annoyed for somewhat of a good reason. >> at the same time, anna, he has made the inference that he could potentially leave the party if he felt like he needed to. now, he is being asked that again. he seems to be irritated, which is the word you used, irritated about the question. >> i thought he was irritated. i thought he was short. i thought he was condescending. he doesn't like to be asked questions. i likes to talk with no filter. it is a very different perspective when you are a republican and you sit there wondering why is he attending? why are we letting him speak to republican voters. why is he coming to events like this if he is not saying he is not going to run a third party? this is a guy who has limitless mon money. he is taking political advice from bill clinton.
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to would make a lot of reasonable republicans nervous to think we are making this guy a bigger brand and giving him more political platform it's to speak at. he is not telling us he is not going to go and hand over the presidency to hillary clinton. >> at the same time, while he is being blamed, he is also getting credit for bringing up issues that other republicans, supporters and other contenders have said, we like this. we like that we are now talking about immigration because of his comments. >> it was in a completely different manner in the way that she has done. he was at the top of the polling. so the way he is bringing these things up or topics he is bringing up certainly is winning him favor. >> he is leading in the polls for a reason. he is not being given anything by the republican party. there are republican voters that actually like what he has to say. if somebody doesn't like him running for a third party, let jeb beat him and scott beat him rather than watching him run for a third-party candidate.
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>> what if he gets beat and run? what he is doing is tapping into the anger and frustration that so many american voters have with the dysfunction going on in washington? there are a plethora, you pick it, of issues that are not getting addressed. people are angry, worried, concerned, filter. >> that word unfiltered he used earlier, that's also why he is winning so great support. >> nobody is suggesting that. i am not sure that he could. i don't think anybody should suggest that he be filtered. i am not sure he is capable of filtering what goes between his brain and his mouth. >> the rnc says he needs to apologize. this is somebody who has already said he has no regrets. apology is not something we should expect from donald trump. he wouldn't be as unfiltered as he is. what is the expectation moving forward? redstate.com is able to
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disinvite him. the rnc is unable to. we don't know if his poll numbers will take a hit. how does donald trump need to position himself? what should we expect from the other contenders that feel like they have to respond to donald trump? >> i'm giving up on what to expect from donald trump a long time ago. >> throw it up in the air and see what lands. >> if he is smart at this point, he should recognize, he fell into a trap. he should have known they were going to ask him these kind of questions and more prepared. if i was his staff, i would say, we really need to think clearly. >> prepared in terms of specificity or certain issues? we didn't hear anything about policy i guess from him at all? >> trump has a tendency to say sexist things, racist things, offensive things. he should have known better to attack meg begyn kelly, not bec
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she is a woman but because she works at fox news. >> there was some thinking or feeling that he would feel like fox is his friend, because he is a republican and conservative, et cetera. there is an interesting relationship going on there. >> frankly, i'm glad that that first debate was on fox and that it was the fox moderators asking those tough questions of every single republican on that stage. had it been rj tapper, who is the next moderator, he would be accused of being in cahoots of democrats and being biased. they can't make that argument against megyn kelly, against bret baier, against chris ball as. he is going tore those attacks. >> what kind of frustration might there be among the other contenders that thought at least at this event this weekend, that everybody would be on a level playing field? everything wanted to be on a level playing field. they have this event where there
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is great support and interest in the party and these candidates and here we go again. it is donald trump who is not even there who is upstaging everybody? >> they have to get on with what they are doing. they have to focus on their campaigns, their message delivered, go out and do more retail politicking through the event. i think that's what everybody is doing. if you sit down and pop yourself some popcorn and pour yourself some wine and watch trump telanovela, you are not going to get updated. >> they are still behind. they have a job to do of selling themselves to republican voters. i don't think they need to worry about trump. they need to worry about themselves. trump is going to be trump and jeb needs to be jeb and marco needs to be marco. everybody needs do their job and stay in their lane. >> we thought this weekend, with he were going to be talking about the debate and how to prepare for the next one and, boom. >> where the red state gathering
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james holmes who killed 12 people and wounded 7 others will soon be headed to prison for life. a jury chose life in prison for holmes over the death penalty. cnn's anna cabrera has details. >> reporter: life in prison without parole, that is the sentence for the man con viced of o vikted of one of the worst mass shootings. it is the end resulted of a lengthy and emotional trial. more than 2600 pieces of evidence. the jury deliberated for less than seven hours and ultimately determined they could not reach a unanimous verdict on his sentence. as a result, james holmes, by default, gets a life in prison
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without parole sentence for killing 12 people inside that packed movie theater back in july of 2012 and wounding 70 others. all along, the prosecution has pushed for the death penalty saying justice is death. while the defense urged mercy. they said james holmes was mentally ill at the time of the crime and that he should not be killed, because you don't kill sick people. jurors did hear from several mental health experts. they agreed he does, indeed, suffer from mental illness, yet, they convicted him on all counts saying they believe he understood right from wrong at the time of the crime. perhaps the mental illness did play a factor in their sentence. the punishment for james holmes, life in prison without parole. the families had been waiting three years for some closure. this offers them a chance to move forward. >> tomorrow, the sun is going to come up. we are going to have a little more pain, a little more hurt in
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our lives but the sun will come up and there will still be love in our lives. we have to remember that. we have to remember the victims. >> our loved ones we didn't lose and they were slaughtered in that movie theater. the juror chose another way. we have to accept that. >> a little more perspective, the death penalty is relatively rare in colorado. only one person executed in the past half century or so, back in 1997. only three people are currently on colorado's death row. they are all from this county. on an american service member among dozen killed in afghan attacks. details next.
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this morning, a u.s. defense official telling cnn that an
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american service member was among those killed in an attack on a coalition military facility in afghanistan. at least nine deaths also reported including civilian con tratto contractors. the u.s. state department is condemning the attack saying, quote, these attacks demonstrate the insurgency's complete disregard for the lives of innocent afghans. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, end quote. this blood shed coming as the intelligence community warns isis may be getting more ambitious in its plots to kill americans. joining us via scope is retired colonel rick francona. good to see you, colonel. we are being told a sis may be trying to plan mass casualty attacks in the u.s. or at least in some way involving americans, a real departure from the lone wolf strategy. how do you interpret this
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information. >> i wouldn't call it so much a departure. i think it will be in addition. they will continue to try these lone wolf attacks because it works for them. they want to play in the big leagues and like al qaeda was a decade ago. they want to set up training camps and bring in resources and create that massive casualty attack. create that significant emotional event just like 9/11 was. it is very ambitious. we have known they want to do this for some time. now that they own territory on the ground, they can set up these camps. until it is more effective, they are going to be able to do it. >> how does this further complicate counter terrorism planning? >> it does. the intelligence community who is trying to focus on al qaeda and isis, the lone wolf attacks, very, very difficult to do, now, they have to worry about isis morphing out into yet another aspect of attacks. >> in your view, does that mean
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potentially a greater collaboration between federal, local authorities and military as they anticipate whatever kind of planning may be under way from these groups? >> we are getting better at this. 9/11, that was one of the problems they said between the law enforcement and intelligence community between the federal authorities and the local authorities. we are getting better at it. it seems we need to keep doing this. as we have seen and as the fbi director has told us. these lone wolves are very difficult to detect and almost impossible to stop. lieutenant colonel, always good to see you. thanks so much. still to come. an unarmed 19-year-old is shot an killed by a police officer in south carolina. some are asking where is the outrage. nick valencia is covering this
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a south carolina family says the police shooting of their unarmed teenage son was not warranted. they believe the case escaped national headlines because their son is white. joining me now, cnn, nick
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valencia. >> this is starting to get a lot of national attention. police saying this is a justified shooting. the officer had feared for hess life. the family saying, their son didn't have to die. >> july 26th, 2015, 19-year-old zachary hammond is on a date with 23-year-old torri morton, the target of a drug sting. when they pull into a hardee's parking lot, police are waiting. according to the police report, hammond, who was driving, attempted to strike an officer with his vehicle during the attempted arrest. he was shot twice and dies at the scene. >> it is a horrible situation. you get put in a predicament that when you sign up to be a police officer there is that potential that you might have to use deadly force. >> the seneca police chief says his officer is a victim too. >> a victim of attempted murder. >> i have a hard time believing it when my son is no longer
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here, that he is the victim. >> the hammonds say police have not given them answers. they went looking for their own. an independent autopsy they conducted shows their son was shot from behind and at close range. the family attorney says the results are that the car was stopped at the time of the shooting. >> it has been very hard. not only are we grieving that our son is gone. we don't know why it happened. we don't know why or what happened. we are just trying to find answers. >> lieutenant mark tiller is the officer involved in the shooting, a ten-year veteran and no history of getting in trouble. in a statement, he put the blame on the 19-year-old hammond. in order to stop the continuing threat to himself and the general public, two shots were fired by lieutenant tiller in quick succession. if not for lieutenant tiller's quick reflexes and his ability to push off of the car, he would
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have easily been run over by mr. hammond. >> on friday, they held a vigil in hopes that attention to his killing will bring them answerings from police. >> they are investigating this and telling cnn they are still collecting evidence. we have asked them to release the dash cam video and they said it is still part of their ongoing investigation and will not be releasing it at this time. >> thanks so much, nick. we appreciate it. police in france investigated burglary. a formula 1 driver and his wife. were they knocked out by gas before the criminal struck?
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>> and that again leads to the fact that it was an inside job. i mean somebody that's there that does not have to leave and come back, they're not going to be seen by the cameras. there's criminals fred that are experts at doing things. we have bank robberies in the united states that happen here that they go in from the roof and look like construction. these things happen all of the time. with the people they woke up from the hayes and put two and go together, but they're confused. i don't know. whatever it was made them sleep through it. they can not imagine that. >> it's quit the mystery. thank you so much. >> you got it. >> okay. the next hour of the news room begins right after a short break. so why treat your mouth any differently. brushing alone does less than half the job, leaving behind millions of germs. complete the job with listerine®. kill up to 99 percent of germs. and prevent plaque, early gum disease and bad breath.
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all right. happening right now in the news room. >> you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her whatever. >> trump dumped and disinvited. the leader of red state.com said that the trump's latest excepts to cnn cross it had line. stunning allegations in the death of

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