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>> you can't top it. i will sit here, pout, say thank you. ac 360 starts now. good evening. thank you for joining us. tonight donald trump is standing by remarks about fox news' megyn kelly that fellow republicans say go over the line. they say his war of word is offensive to women hurting the pare. he says they got it all wrong. she should be apologizing to him. all the late details and my conversation with roger stone, until this weekend a top trump insider, now outsider. fired or resign. depending on who you believe. he argues all the spats trump is getting into is detracting frumg his larger message. we will get to all of that and new comments from hillary clinton about trump. breaking news out of ferguson. a state of emergency in effect on the streets of ferguson, missouri. in fact all of st. louis county. today, protesters blocked a stretch of interstate highway just outside town. a year after the shooting of michael brown and all protests that followed.
tensions once again, dangerously high. what began as a peaceful demonstration yesterday turned chaotic, ugly, very nearly deadly. shots fired. apparently between some in the crowd and then at and from police. the sound caught on camera as sara sidner was interviewing ferguson's interim police chief. >> we just want to be as patient as possible. . [ distant gunfire ] >> gunfire. >> police hit the alleged gunman african-american teenager. he is in the hospital in rough shape, facing serious charges. as you might imagine ferguson is on edge. sara sidner is there and joins us with the latest on all of it. first, what's happening on the ground tonight or what are the plans for to night? >> it's interesting. today was supposed to be, anderson, a day of civil disobedience. it certain three has been a but
56 people were arrested earlier in the day. out at the federal courthouse. the idea was to get arrested. talking about civil disobedience, wanted to put that out there, try to push further this idea of justice for black people when it comes to how they're treated by police. and so many people were including cornell west arrested and though they have been most of them released at this time. then you, of course, mention what happened on interstate 70 during rush hour. a car driving through that as well. and a lot of the protesters chasing a car that drives through. you will start seeing that throughout the evening. that was the plan for today. they told everyone on the weekend that the weekend would be peaceful protests. and that moun don monday differ with civil disobedience their top priority. anderson? >> last night when the shooting began, what happened? we just saw you on air talking to the interim police chief? >> yeah, you know last night i actually got caught on the street.
i was coming back from a function, where there was a lot of people inside a church all talking about situation here in ferguson. very calmly and together. as i drove down the street the i could not get through. ended up seeing the chief standing there. there was a typical what you'd would see here, a line of police. and a loon line of protestors. protesters yeg lling at police. police saying time to disperse. the police chief was there, new interim chief been there a couple weeks. suddenly gunshots going on and on and on. a major barrage of fire. what we heard then after that from police is that that actually, a come of people shooting at one another. and then after that police responded. so there was another blast of gunshots. ended up shooting an 18-year-old who is in the hospital and in critical condition now. and then, a third volley of fire, gunshots in the area in the very neighborhood where michael brown was shot and killed. exactly one year ago. >> i understand after the
shooting, a young woman who knew the man who was shot, fainted, right? >> yeah, you know, we are there. a very raw, very emotional scene. and it is very chaotic. as we walked up there was a young woman. and she was howling, saying the name of the person who had been shot. let me let you listen. [ indiscernible ] clearly distraught, anderson. clearly, completely emotionally exhausted. and just so emotional. but then when police started coming, everyone start to run. trying to pick her up. screaming, stop, stop she needs help. she was saying the name, what we found out later, of the person who had been shot. and who had been critically
wounded. his name is tyrone harris, 1 years old. now faces about almost a dozen charges. including using a firearm against police. >> sara sidner. we will be watching. keep following sara throughout the next two hours we are on the air tonight. we'll check back with sara later. now donald trump no apologies from him today, not or over the weekend, for remarks about moderator megyn kelly. he says she owes him an apology. mr. trump lit the fuse here on cnn a day into his post-debate feud with her. >> well that was friday night. it touched a nerve among conservatives. red state's erick erickson disinvited trump from the forum.
mr. trump called erick erickson, a major sleaze and buffoon. >> they were completely inappropriate and offensive comments. period. >> we all know they are reprehensible. and in my view, just one of many reasons why donald trump is unqualified and unfit to be president of the united states. >> i don't think we should reward vulgarity. i don't think vulgarity equates with insight. >> give me a break? do we want to win? do we want to insult 53% awful voters? what donald trump said is wrong. >> not surprisingly mr. trump does not agree with the reaction or the notion that he was talking about anything inappropriate. when we was referencing blood and megyn kelly.
>> he went on to tweet this today about megyn kelly. oh, really, check out innocent at megyn kelly, discussion at howard stern show five years ago. i amount innocent pure one. for the record, during the show on howard stern, ms. kelly talked about pregnancy, breast size and effect on her and her husband's six life. so no apologies from donald trump. cnn reporter, nia malika henderson, katrina pearson, amanda carpenter, former communications director for senator ted cruz. what do you make of trump's defiance on this, not backing down or apologizing? >> this is classic trump. he did this with john mccain. never really apologized for
that. didn't really hurt them. his brand is bluster. his brand is being in your facing. his brand is no apologies. so i don't think it is any surprise that not only is he not apologizing, you hear some of the folks who were supporting him, basically parroting the talking points that he has, you know that he is going on at this point. whether on cable news or twitter. a sign at laes east so far if y talk to folks that like him. this might not damage him among those core folks who like him and in states like new hampshire and iowa. we will have to see. polling will happen at some point. we are going to hear more from him. you see of course democrats taking this and running with it. one of the thing that is interesting, he is in some ways turning fox into the establishment, right? now fox and megyn kelly is establishment, now he is the, the sort of up-start politician going against them. that is a reversal for fox.
>> katrina, you are a supporter of trump. did the comments offend you? do you believe it is a mistake for him to go after megyn kelly in this way? >> well, i do support trump beingen this race. however i will say i was watching cnn during that entire discussion and as a woman, nothing passed me. i didn't catch anything. it was after the fact when political operatives from other campaigns started pushing out this narrative of a menstrual cycle. now they're calling on him to apologize. i'm curious what hes say pezzed to apologize for. go apologize for something he never said. >> if not for that. retweeting somebody scald her a bimbo. he retweeted that. is that something that a presidential candidate should be doing? >> will i think that's debatable? is that something a presidential candidate would do. i think one is doing it. here's the thing. we have polls that have come out. mr. trump has not lost ground. people are tired of politicians
apologizing for everything. the traditional republican is usually tucking their tail and apologizing before they ever do anything wrong. so people aren't going to lose faith in him. >> as president if he called a female reporter a bimbo or retweeted some one calling a female reporter a bimbo you would be okay with that? >> he wouldn't be doing his own twitter if he was president. it wasn't retweet. he did not call any one a bimbo. been on social media, very active for years. this is donald trump. all baked into the numbers. >> amanda, what do you think, how much does this tiff with fox and megyn kelly and by the way the tiff with fox seems to be repair, on fox in the morning, a statement was made by roger ales to a web site saying that they had a conversation and they seem to be moving forward. how much do you think this is working in donald trump's favor? >> first of all there is no question he promoted the notion that megyn kelly is a bimbo by
retweeting that to 3 million followers. i am not really interested in donald trump's explanation of what he meant. when you are campaigning to run for president it doesn't matter what you say it's what voters hear. what they believe you meant. and many people believe that done a donald trump is brash, crass, and has a history of making insulting statements to women. he is getting what he deserves if he meant it or not. i personally think he meant it. as for the continuing saga with fox news and this and that. i don't think a winning strategy to go after the press. i have never seen a candidate of any office so violently attack a reporter for asking fair, reasonable question that have a direct correlation to his record. i can't imagine that pans out for him. >> nia, clearly the democrat, hillary clinton is trying to say, well, you know, what donald trump is saying offensive. but speak for what the entire gop believes. do you believe that that message actually sticks? does it affect the party as a
whole? there some who say most republicans don't actually see trump as a "republican" though running as gop candidate not career politician doesn't actually fall under the traditional republican structure? >> yeah, sort of hard to make that argument for republicans. when in 2012 you had mitt romney stand up next to donald trump and say he was delighted and honored to get his endorsement. very much after donald trump became king of the birthers and questioning obama's birth place and calling to release his birth certificate. republicans are very much trying to throw him overboard at this point. in some ways that became a little easier when heap rai rais hand and said he wouldn't rule out the independent run. you are going to see democrats effectively be able to tie hem to the party based on the record, based on the record that they embraced him for years. certainly before this. certainly in 2012. it is going to be hard. i thought hillary clinton was in her element today when she
basically said, listen, donald trump's comments were outrageous. let's talk about the policies of the gop, what they said what they want to do, women's approximately sei policies, minimum wage, abortion. she is able to make an argument you will hear democrats make through the race. >> you are right. she is right. this is hillary clinton's element. she is the war on women stand up person. and she is going to push this no matter who is going to be on the gop side. i think it's fair to say. i don't think anyone can say that done ald trump represents the gop. pretty obvious the gop wants him out of the race. besides i will talk about hillary clinton and the war on women when she starts talking about the democrat all white primary. >> katrina, do you worry though that your candidate is thin-skinned? does he come off to you as thin-skinned. among a lot of supporters he comes off as tough, tough guy, fights back, fights back harder.
he is, you know, hit once. going to hit back twice. i certainly get that. critics of his say, look as president, you got to have a pretty thick skin. you are going to have reporters asking you all manner of questions. is this what we are really are going to see if donald trump is elected president, this kind of -- constant, you know, enemies list, growing enemies list of reporters? or anybody who is slighted? >> i don't know if that is such a bad thing. is he thin skinned? i don't think so. did he get defensive? absolutely. he thought the question was out of bound. the questions asked of him were based off a reality show, the on show character, not the man he is. that's why he take it the way he is. this is done aald trump. millions of people, baked into the numbers. that has not hurt him yet. and i don't thin kt k it will.
>> donald trump is not afraid to speak his mind. he will do it again on cnn's "new day" the interview at 7:00 a.m. eastern. a lot more ahead, inside the trump campaign from a political strategist who was until the weekend top campaign insider. he says he quit. donald trump says he was fired. roger stone joins us next. >> later, outside dallas. surveillance camera, catches the young man vandalizing cars. moments later, he is dead. shot and killed by police, facing tough questions. the story when we continue. e. ♪ turn every ride into a thrill ride. ♪ come in to the lexus golden opportunity sales event, where you'll find some of the best offers of the year on our most exhilarating models. lease the 2015 rc 350 for $449 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer. bring us your aching and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well rested.
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>> the trump campaign is without the services of a well known strategist. a window into how the campaign operates and how a professional sees it. roger stone's resume goes back to bush-gore 2000, all the way to the 1972 nixon-mcgovern campaign. until the weekend a top trump adviser. mr. trump says he fired him. mr. stone says he quit over mr. trump's recent tone. i spoke with mr. stone shortly before the program began. >> so what happened? the trump campaign says they fired you. you say that's not the case. >> well it's not the case. frankly, i kind of previewed my resignation letter to five of my colleagues in the business prior to sending it because i wanted to know what they thought. they were good enough to confirm they had seen the letter for "the new york times" and politico which proves i did in fact resign. >> why did you want to resign? >> i was frustrated.
i think trump is better than this. i remain a strong supporter. >> after all of this. >> we go back a very long time. donald trump came to my wedding. i want to two of his. at his parents funeral. brother-in-law's funeral. helped make his wife a federal judge in new jersey. i have respect for trump. i wanted him to run for president since 191988. >> your issue is post debate getting in spats with megyn kelly and others? >> it is a distraction, cul-de-sac. american presidential politics is big picturer us eissues. he is running with 15 career politicians one smart brain surgeon. and it's great contrast. people want to hear the trump vision for america. how will he make america great? he knows what he wants to do. >> why do you think he is going down to the cul-de-sacs? part of his personality sn-- he
cannot help but fight back. >> perhaps his advisers don't realize the role of a celebrity is different than candidate. i think by going rogue and telling you what he need how to do. i am doing this out of loyalty. i am not going to argue with a bunch of 40-year-old advance men. this is within of the great tensions in american politic thousands. always tension between the handlers, merchandising and advance men and men of ideas. politics is about idea. trump has big ideas. i have seen his big ideas. >> does it matter for those who are supporting donald trump, there are many right now, looking at his poll numbers, does it matter that he doesn't get into specifics, even in the fox debate chris wallace kept trying to press him on where is your evidence of the mexican government is forcing people across? one thing for the mexican government not be doing enough, but to be sending people across, like the cuban government did, getting people out of cuba years ago which trump compared it to. he doesn't have evidence of
that. does that matter you think? or is trump, does he defy the law of political gravity? >> so far he has. on the other hand there has to be enough meat on his bones for people to judge that he really does have a plan. and he really does have a way forward. but frankly, leadership is more important than that. i really think the contrast here has to do with the fact that trump is financially independent and therefore the only one i can name, like ross perot in his day who will stand up to the entrench eed interests. he doesn't need lobbyists, super pacs or billionaires to finance. he is a billionaire. >> i told you. reading the jeff toobin art cull writ any but you. donald trump was quoted in the article calling you a stone cold loser. >> we know better than that. >> but he then hired you again? >> because we had a brief falling out over a fellow named eliot spitzer who i believed was corrupt. i will remind you he took a prostitute across five state lines. which a new york state supreme court judge has just gotten out
of jail for. a republican though. so we had a brief falling out. regarding eliot spitzer and my acting to remove him. >> you were willing to overlook that. >> we were reconciled. i remany a trump fan and supporter. >> how do you see this playing out? donald trump talked about not ruling out a third party challenge. >> be more specific about what he said on the stump he did not say in the debate. at least three of the major candidates according to "the new york times" were in secret discussions to boycott the fox debate if he were included. in 15 states the republican establishment can keep him off the ballot with the stroke of a pen. if treated fair low, and a level playing field and shot at nomination. he won't run third party. he is front-runner. if the republican staestablishm don't want to give him equal access. he has the leverage. the word he used. that's $100 million escapade. i got gary johnson, working with
others in the libertarian party on the ballot in 4 states three years ago. he would have been in on all states. bad judicial decisions. trump has capacity to do that if he wants to. not his preference. >> trump used the word leverage during the debate. got a lot of criticism for it. what do you think that means to donald trump, what does he want to use it for? >> to make sure he had a fair shot at the nomination. this is not about trump and trump ego. making sure he isn't treated unfairly in the republican dust up. >> let me ask you about ego. can a guy who fights hard and pushes back hard, if somebody in his view insults them, even a reporter asking a tough question, can somebody lack that have the temperament to be president? can he be presidential? >> a" of roles. there is a trump maxim and stone mixim. if some body hits you. hit them back harder. i agree. but not a candidate running for the president of the united states. different to be a real estate developer, mogul or celebrity
television star. but in the realm of politics you would be better off to ignore thecriticisms. >> it's time wasted. >> just not productive. we have already seen when he talks big picture he zooms to number one in the polls. appears to day until we see more survey reser to be holding. >> who's making the decisions in a donald trump campaign? i'm fascinated by his organization. does he listen to other people? take it into consideration? or just say, i'm, it's 4:00 a.m. i'm sending out a tweet? >> he is the decision maker. donald trump is not scripted. he is not coached. he is not handled. what you see is what you get. he makes these decisions. he has on many occasions risen to the occasion. a clutch player. he is under pressure now. i was very encouraged by the campaign announcing this morning that they would be putting out a series of position papers that he has inspired. i know because i worked on the papers. but they're not mine. they're his. he has the ideas for the
country. and he will lay them out. the sooner the belter. >> mr. stone. great to have you on. >> great to be here. for those of us who are trump loyalists, our hash tag handle is #yuge. >> yuge. >> roger stone, add more insight into what makes donald trump, donald trump. why he says what he says and whether it helps or hurts him as a leader. david gergen writ any but it. suggesting, donald trump is a narcissist. dr. drew pinsky deals with all types of personalities. david and dr. drew join us next. but these birds are suffering. because this better place turned out to have a less reliable cell phone network, and the videos on their little bird phones kept buffering. birds hate that. so they came back home. because they get $300 from switching back to verizon, and so can you! verizon. come home to a better network.
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we have been touching on not just all night but since donald trump said he is running for president so have his opponents. question of tone and temperament. i asked him about it. senior political analyst david gergen wrote in a cnn.com piece, what explains donald trump's arrogance? in it he explores narcissistic leadership. it has advantages and disadvantages. david, a fascinating piece you wrote.
you point out societies need narcissistic leaders they tend to be strong people who have a lot of charisma, powerful drive to get results. what psych analysts call productive narcissists. what's the downside to those kind of people? >> well, i drew heavily upon michael bacabee, psycho analyst, corporate consultant to ceo's, leadership guru. and as he points out, you know, as freud said there are productive narcissists, people who are strong leaders at times of turbulence. you know, the public is looking for some one look a trump who presents a lot of strength. the downside is that, in effect the success can go to the head of a narcissist. and they sort of become self obsessed, self absorbed, but they begin to go off the rails. they become socially isolated. they don't accept advice. they don't listen to others. they're distrustful.
then when they're attacked or someone seems to be threatening them verbally they hit back really hard. all of those characteristics of course are what we are seeing with donald trump. i have seen him in his private moments when he is i think much more productive. but the trump who has been in public fits that role of a narcissist you really have to wonder about. has he create aid trap for himself. >> dr. drew, interesting, to david's point. donald trump when you are meeting with him one-on-one. he can be incredibly charming. there is a great appeal to him. i enjoyed, i have done two interviews with him. i have enjoyed the entire process. even when he is pushing back hard on me or, saying something negative to me, it's, a mreshg ourable conversation. it is an interesting stimulating conversation. isn't any person who decide to run for president, or most people in public life, whether it is donald trump or somebody else, aren't they most likely narcissists, including most people on television?
>> yes, i have the only published literature that shows that. that people, that's true, people who have narcissistic injuries early in life this is a bid to manage those injuries. it doesn't mean you have to be a full blown narcissist? >> what do you moean? >> abandon, neglect, narcissistic traits. not narcissistic disorders, narcissistic traits. that can be very, very useful in situations like this. you have how to wonder whether he is amplifying some narcissistic traits publicly now because what you have said about himm ein a private moment, doest have greatest, he has a boundary between you and him, deal with you respectfully and degree of empathy. lack of empathy is the liability of being a nars vicissist. >> you have how to wonder whether he invented. you whether whether donald trump
invented a public persona. we see that with a lot of people. it is absolutely true that -- that narcissists have often accomplished great things. franklin roosevelt, winston churchill, gandhi, the most effective are ones who, who have this narcissistic trait but they, they hide it, they take it, they, anchor it so it is not well seen. lincoln falls into that category. but you really have to wonder with trump, mostly is it a public act, public persona he adopted over the years? and it works for him politically why not keep doing it even though it smashes a lot of the, the truths we holden our heads about how a politician, and how a leader, especially a president ought to behave. >> drew, the term narcissism has a negative connotation. you say it is not, you don't think of it as the a bad trait per se. >> i really don't. it has liabilities like any trait. and it has strengths like any trait. if you are going to be a leader you kind of have to have a
certain all. narcissism, need other people. have a vision, you have to sort of be able to have a great trust in your own vision for things. where it starts to barack dorea get so absorbed in your sense of things don't perceive reality on reality's terms or don't take input from people close to you. >> david, when i talked to doim, first time or second time in the interview with him. i asked him, would he change his tone when he became president? do you think it is possible, he said he would. do you think it's possible for somebody like hem im to change their tone? >> i think he is going to find that if he really wants to win the nomination, and he does obviously have a more durable following than almost any pundit thought, then he is going to have to move. i thought it was a inning tiff sign when he divorced stone. one of the things you need how to do is stay anchored, need a side kick, counselor, losing stone i think was a mistake. but, he has now made the signs.
he is going to put out position papers, do some of the things roger stone wanted him to do. maybe he is starting to move in the direction of having some conventionality and calming down some. which would serve him over time. >> roger stone is a fascinating character, david. >> he is. he is. i knew roger stone way back in nixon days. he evolved a great deal over time. become a libertarian. you know, i think, i think what he said, that was a classy exit. like the way that, you know it is, when you get one of these unconventional candidates look ross perot way back in the early '90s. running against another clinton. ross perot almost could have within that race. but he hired ed rollins, republican guru, rollins quit after two months. and did it in the same classy way roger stone has the. but anderson, when you are one of the strategists, political consultants, riding a horse. jockey on a horse. some horses are run away, you
can't stay in the saddle. >> i mate say what they are, if they're narcissist, they're all yuge. >> yuge. exactly. david gergen. drew pinsky. update on breaking news. state of emergency in ferguson, missouri. after new violence, protesters taking to the streets still demanding changes a year after michael brown's death. after a scathing report from the justice department months ago the police and city have not made some crucial changes ahead tonight. imagine - she won't have to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile.
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update on our breaking news. tension in ferguson, missouri, the city and st. louis county under a state of emergency. one year after the shooting death of michael brown. the anniversary of his death, spark nude ped new protests. demonstrators said much has not changed. we did digging and exclusive analysis by cnn money shows ferguson is pumping out thousands of arrest warrants, despite a highly critical record from the justice department in march. the police department and municipal court were targeting low income minority residents with tickets and fines for minor
offenses. the reason not to enforce the law but instead to boost the city's budget. here is our senior investigative correspondent drew griffin. >> reporter: the number astounding the small st. louis suburb of ferguson has a p population of just 21,000. in march it had outstanding arest warrants for 16,000 including veronica ortega, technically wanted by the law for what? >> over a parked car i had in my driveway. >> reporter: a warrant has been hanging over her head for three years. >> i said this is what happened. roichl wh >> reporter: when she moved into the house. the new york city transplant decided to buy a car. the single mother of three living on fixed income she could afford the $500 car but not the registration license and insurance. so she parked it right here in her driveway. and within weeks a code enforcement officer had written not one but two citation that led to a ticket. >> $102.
because the it has been three years now, because i haven't paid that, they kept my i.d. as hostage. so now in order for me to get my i.d. because my i.d. is old, i would have to pay $102. >> reporter: she could have solved the problem by registering her car in the first place, could have saved up by now and paid the ticket. but ortega is standing on principle. willing to face arrest over a parked car she no longer owns. she is not alone. in ferguson, and many other small communities surrounding st. louis, thousands face arrest for what initially were violations as small as owning delinquent cars, jaywalking or even having an evergrown lawn. in ferguson, if you were arrested for an outstanding warrant it's almost certain you were black. the department of justice found 96% of those arrested due to an jut standing warrant were african-american. critics call it policing for profit. and despite a scathing report by the justice department, which found the policing practices
used in ferguson have deep mistrust between police and minorities. the ticketing, fines, arrest warrants for those who don't pay continue. the city issued more than 2,300 new arrest warrants just this year. a cnn money analysis over two month period found 80% of the tickets resulting in a rest warrants stem from some of the most minor offenses. failing to wear a seatbelt. speeding. even having the overgrown yard or playing loud music. >> look a warrant say because i assaulted somebody or stole $5,000 of something in the store. no, i have an arrest, i have a warrant for a delinquent car. the u.s. justice department report on ferguson released in march, a racially biased practice of policing that targets ferguson's black community instead of protecting it. and uses tickets arrests and code enforcement, mostly against
black people, as a source of revenue. those fines paid for 16% of the city's budget last year. >> the vast majority are for failure to pay or failure to appear in court. >> brendon ruddiger represents plaintiffs in two lawsuits against ferguson says the ferguson court cyst temperature is still policing for profit. and when mostly poor african-americans can't pay their fines, the city courts put out a warrant for their arrest. >> i don't know how to measure how outrageous something is. i think it is absolutely a tragedy. i think it absolutely ruins people's lives. i think it creates homelessness. i think it discourages people from seeking help when they need help. >> reporter: hold on says ferguson's mayor, james knowles. >> does it seem extreme? if you get a speeding tech it or whatever and you don't show up to court to explain to the judge
why you can't pay, they do issue a warrant for you. that's the way the courts, all the courts in missouri have been operate fing for many years. >> reporter: that is true. while some surrounding communities have far fewer arrest warrants being issued than ferguson. some have even more. knowles says in the whack of la -- whack of last year's unrest, city set up fines for those who can't pay, and amnesty for those carrying arrest warrants. >> if you want to come in and get your warrant taken care of. we can, we can take that warrant out. we can go back to what the original fine and fee was. you can, you can make your kalgs to the judge. we have a new judge. and the judge can, can work with you to make sure that, that you have no no longer have warrants. >> reporter: what city will not do is not just do away with. no wichi iwiping the slate clea. st. louis and neighboring towns are erasing old warrants. stopping the process altogether.
not so in ferguson where tickets are still owed, and arrest warrants are being issued. and thousand of people like veronica ortega could technically be arrested just about any moment for something that started out as a delinquent car in her driveway. so really, any time a cop could come by here. >> give you a ticket. >> and arrest you. >> yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. >> drew with all the unrest last night and the shooting. a city almost 75% african-american. how many african-american officers work for the ferguson police department? >> surprising how few, even after the year. they have a new interim police chief who is black. and five officers. five out of 50 who are black. again, as you said ein a town where 70% of the population is black. they're trying to improve that as well. that is an improvement. >> is the interim chief going to change the way the department has been operating? >> he says so. he says he is not going to have
policing for profit. not going to do that. he says he hasn't been asked to. and the state of missouri has a new law where it is going to limit how much money a city can raise on the back of the population through tickets. et cetera. what he wants to do is have a more community based police department. going out and engaging and actually knowing the community they serve. you know after events like last night you can see what a tough job he wiz have. >> no doubt about that. drew, thanks. the shooting death of an unarmed black student has police in arlington, texas, left with the question -- what was christian taylordoing in this car dealership? did it really merit deadly force? ol my blood sugar. today, i'm asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®,
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an investigation is under way in texas after a rookie police officer shot and killed a 19-year-old college football player caught on surveillance video vandalizing cars at a dealership outside dallas also seen crashing his suv into the dealership showroom. late tonight we learned both officers who were there have given statements to investigators about what happened. we don't know what they said. what we do know is that christian taylor was not armed. his father says while what his son was doing wasn't right, there was no reason he had to die. martin savage reports.
>> reporter: christian taylor in the last minutes of his life. around 1:00 a.m. friday. cameras, monitoring an arlington car dealership. spot the 19-year-old on the lot. at one point jumping on the hood of a car. kicking the windshield. the security company uses a pa to warn taylor to leave and calls police. >> reporter: then the cameras show the teen driving his suv through the dealership gates and smashing through the show room front doors. within minutes police respond and walk towards the building. what happens next inside the dealership isn't captured on surveillance or body cams which are not required by police here. according to authorities, trainee police officer brad miller and his supervising officer order taylor to surrender. instead he tried to flee through a locked door. then according to police there is an altercation. the super vising officer uses
his tears, miller fires his gun four times, hitting the teen in the abdomen, chest and neck. taylor died on the scene. officer miller on paid administrative leave. standard procedure in a police shooting. in a move not standard the arlington police of chief asked the fbi to review the department investigation and findings. taylor is black. the officer who fired the fatal shots is white. equally important to the investigative process is an acknowledgement and in this instance has not occurred in isolation. but rather it has occurred as our nation has been wrestling with the topics of social injustice inequities, racism, and police misconduct. >> taylor about to begin his sophomore year at angelos state university where he played defensive back on the football team. his father can't understand what his son was doing at the car lot that night. >> that could have been too much drinking. or wrong place at the wrong time.
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9:00 p.m. donald trump is not backing down over remarks that have drawn fire from republicans and hillary clinton. that is ahead. we begin in ferguson, missouri where the sun is going down after a day of protest including the blocking of a nearby major highway. state of emergency now in effect across city and all of st. louis county. a year after police shot and killed michael brown and all that followed. tension is once again high tonight. the last 24 hours have seen protests, violence. looting. gunshots and alleged gunman shot. and badly wounded by police. we'll talk in a moment about where things go from here. first ryan young with how he got to this point. >> reporter: rapid gunfire followed by running in fear. you can see the panic rise in the crowd. the peaceful protest from michael brown turned to violence sunday night. ferguson's interim police chief, andre anderson was in the middle