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the north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right. here we go. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. thanks for being with me on this tuesday. we're getting the first sign as to how voters responded to the fireworks last thursday night and the man thus far at the center of this race, at the center of the debate and its aftermath is still in a strong position. let's start with iowa. this is iowa, home to the first in the nation presidential caucuses. you have this new suffolk university poll. and trump has pulled out ahead of scott walker. you can see there, 17% to his 12%. that is a switch from two previous polls that showed walker leading trump. marco rubio has 10% followed by ben carson at 9% and cruz and carly fiorina at 7%. in new hampshire, this poll has trump leading the poll there
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with 18% and then this is where it gets interesting because you have jeb bush with 13% followed by ohio governor john kasich right on his heels with 12. ted cruz has 10% and carly fiorina stands in fifth place with 9%. so with all of these numbers. let's go to our chief political analyst gloria borger who is here to talk about this. there are a lot of story lines. on the top, donald trump. >> right. >> not really dinged by thursday. >> right. not at all. i mean, if you look at him in iowa, he's really taken some air out of the balloon of scott walker. the thing to look at in iowa is that jeb bush is nowhere he wasn't even on your list. >> that's right. >> throw iowa back up there. you won't see jeb bush's name. in fact, jeb bush is
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evangelical, everyone assumed iowa was going to be for him 2.4%. rand paul, 2%. jeb bush -- jeb bush -- >> he has the fire in the belly. >> that's right. he has a passion gap. i think jeb bush, his campaign will tell you they never expected to win iowa but they have to do a little better than they are doing here in iowa. again, if you look at the new hampshire polling, jeb bush, fine. but then again, you have out of nowhere after a breakthrough debate -- >> john kasich. we'll like this. we'll like this. john kasich did very well. it was a hometown debate for him and even since, the way he's been interviewed, watching him on "the state of the union" with jake tapper, and also carly fiorina, who at one point last thursday was googled more than donald trump, they didn't know her name and now she's polling much better. >> right. and let me say something. >> yes. >> this is early. this is really early.
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and you have republican primary voters who were looking at these candidates. the iowa poll, 20% undecided. okay? so there's a lot of give in this polling right now. carly fiorina, they saw her at the first debate, they liked her. when they asked people, should she move up to the upper tier, people said "yes." she will raise money off of this. john kasich already has a fundraising plea out in e-mails to potential funders saying, look at how john kasich has moved up. lots of people like the way he answered the question, for example, on gay marriage. >> yes. >> he seemed to be a voice of sanity. a voice of reason. and he had a way of taking on donald trump without taking on donald trump. right? >> but on donald trump, he was on this morning, listen, he's been doing the rounds. >> sure. >> he was talking to chris cuomo and he really hit on -- in a 20-second sound bite, hit on why i think people really support
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him. here you go from "new day". >> i didn't sit down and draw a plan, tomorrow i'll go and have a meeting. the next day i'll go and make an offer. i went in and got turnbury. everybody wanted it. i didn't wait to get a 14-point plan. a lot of this stuff, you don't want to hear about the plans. you've got to get in and you've got to get it done. >> get it done. he just wants to get it done. yes, he's not talking specifics on policy. he said wait until the next debate for that. that resonates with a lot of voters frustrated with washington. >> right. they just want to get it done. he is anti-establishment, anti-politician, anti-washington. they like his can do, get it done attitude. all of these republicans losing altitude as a result of donald trump are going to start attacking him from the right. we're asking for specifics. we're not getting them. the other candidates are going to say, okay --
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>> rand paul is attacking him. >> that's right. and they are attacking him from the right and they are saying, you're really an imposter. you are not a conservative. you just said you might fund planned parenthood, for example. you are not a true conservative because now they are losing support and the way to go after donald trump for them is saying we are more conservative than you are and the republican base needs to know that before they decide that they like him because he is not really who he says he is. that is what they are going to do. >> i'm so interested to see how the tone will change. >> right. >> the cnn debate at the reagan library. >> oh, yes. >> gloria borger, thank you so much. really appreciate it. as donald trump is quick to remind all of us, he has made his name by building and buying expensive things. and all with his name affixed front and center, trump towers, trump palace, trump park avenue. he owns golf courses and a winery and a helicopter. you with me? you get the picture?
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of course, he has a keen interest in taxes as well. this morning, donald trump talked about tax reform on "new day" and how he'd like to put the tax preparation conditions out of business. >> from the fair tax to every single form of tax, our tax code is too complicated and we can simplify it so -- >> how? >> using intelligence. by having commonsense. >> but what do you simplify? you make the top 30% go to 20%? >> i want to put them out of business. a person with a simple tax return can't figure it out. they have to pay a lot of money to these companies to do your tax return for you. >> so here's a little bit of the trump backstory. he got his start with his dad and his dad became successful by catering not to the wealthy and powerful but by building homes for the middle class and
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apartments. his father was interviewed during the 1970s and when it comes to how they made their fortunes, there's a massive contrast between father and son. julia, thank you for swinging by. >> thank you. >> i guess the first question is, let's back up. how did fred trump make his money? >> he was a developer that we don't have today. he developed primarily in the boroughs and a huge scale. he began in the depression and ended pretty much in the 1990s. >> when you look at his background and you also look at where his son has taken the business today, this is my favorite quote, you were quoted as pointing out, it's so funny that donald does all of his government attacks because his entire heritage is from the government. it seems to me that these men
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had very -- in the same business but very different background as far as building. very different aspirations, professionally speaking. >> yes. yes. exactly. first, in the old days, beginning in the '30s but through world war ii and post world war ii, the federal government had a gazillion programs that were very difficult and complex and fred was a master of using government programs and mixing them. that's the first thing. the second thing is, fred was not and never would be a member of what development people called the royal families. >> didn't want to be? >> couldn't have been. up there in queens and brooklyn and doing working class and middle-class housing, it was a whole different things. the donald wanted to be part of the royal families and you can only do that in manhattan and doing that building big and building skyscrapers. >> that's a lot of the base and theme of his campaign.
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he says, look at me, look at my success in business and this is how i would function as a president. i'm curious, though, too, about personality. you interviewed fred trump decades ago. but knowing what you knew of him and what we know of donald trump, what are the similarities? >> oh -- >> personalitywise. >> i've actually never thought about the similarities. i mainly think about the differences. >> list the differences, then. >> because fred was very reserved, he was aloof. "the new york times" once said that he was dapper but not fancy. >> dapper but not fancy? >> right. and he was quiet. he was very successful developer so he had to have a major ego practically by definition but he kept it restrained. >> and his son? >> and his son, well, pretty much not restrained. >> it was a fantastic piece in the paper this morning and to
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understand where his father came from and to juxtapose that with donald trump, i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. you don't want to miss our second republican debate, the second republican debate, i should say, on september 16th at ronald reagan library. cnn will also be hosting the first -- the sixth democratic debates that is october 13th. it's live in nevada right here on cnn. coming up next, agents back on duty after the bloody arrest there of a university of virginia student. i'll speak with martise johnson and get his reaction to that news and how he's moving forward. also, what the truck driver did moments before he crashed into tracy morgan's limo. new details into that deadly accident. and a possible game changer in the world of diet sodas. why diet pepsi is getting rid of this controversial sweetener and
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. three people are officially back on the job after being cleared of a wrongdoing in the arrest of martese johnson. you may remember these images. the agents approached johnson after he was turned away from a bar from campus and they say he turned belligerent. johnson says he needed ten stitches after they gashed his for forehead. a statement was released stating, "the virginia abc concluded that the agents did not violate agency policy and
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returned these special agents to active duty." and johnson still has a fourth year at uva and may come in contact with these abc acts and if he was to see them, what would he say? here's his response? >> i would hopefully not have to say much to them. but had i saw them, i would probably hope that they were conducting themselves in an applied manner and interacting with students in a very cordial manner. that's all i can hope for from these officers. >> it's only been half a year since this happened and i have no idea how many times you've seen that video of yourself there on that sidewalk in charlottesville. as you watch it today, what do you see? >> i've tried not to watch it for quite some time now so i hadn't seen it for months, to be honest. but the last time that i watched it, i couldn't finish.
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it was such a horrific experience for me and it's still traumatic today. so when looking back on it, all i can think about is the possibility that that could happen to another student at this university with someone across the country. in fact, that it does happen and it needs to be stopped immediately. >> i think it's worth, since i have you, to go back to that night quickly. i know the issue was you didn't have -- you had lost your most recent license. you had given them a different license that had not the corresponding zip code that they were asking you for. there was confusion over that. tell me what happened afterwards. >> so once there was the discrepancy of my i.d., i was asked to step away because he couldn't let me in because i provided an incorrect zip code. so i had a cordial conversation with the owner of the bar and was immediately grabbed from behind by the officer. at the time i didn't know that it was the officer. naturally, if someone yanks you
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from behind you pull away because you don't know who it is. once i realized it was an officer, he continued to pull me and grab me aside. once that happened, i got into a brief conversation and two other officers approached. one officer grabbed my other arm. a third officer grabbed me from behind and i was slammed to the ground headfirst. so i've been recently working on a piece, actually, that i plan to put out to the public in the next week or two and a big portion of that piece is the concept of sanctuary and success. and so growing up, your parents always told you, if you just do the right thing, if you do what you're supposed to do and follow these sort of paths that lead to success, you'll always be okay. you'll never have a problem and you'll be successful. and i think that i had that notion and i internalized it for a very long time at the university until my third year when i realized that i checked au all of my boxes. i made it out of the streets of chicago, i came to a prestigious
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university and thought i was safe and that safety bubble was bursted when this situation occurred in my life. from this point forward, i'm preaching that there is no real sanctuary in success and until we change our nation, minorities throughout the country will never be completely safe. >> you talk about changing the nation. i mean, that's an overarching notion. to be specific, we're getting geared up for this campaign season and what's been interesting to watch is the candidates. one of the questions they are now being asked is about the black lives matter movement, about police brutality, especially bernie sanders who participated in the civil rights movement decades ago. a couple of folks from the black lives matter movement took over his podium over the weekend at the same time, his new national secretary is a black advocate, strong supporter of that movement. i'm wondering, that is context,
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martese, what is the one question that should be asked of these candidates? >> i think that generally they just need to be asked, what are they going to do for minorities who are being killed daily? i think that they have been asked that question but nobody has sufficiently answered it yet. >> what's a sufficient answer? especially considering that the bulk -- the majority are white. >> yeah. i think that they need to implement and alter policy that will prevent one officer from being able to treat people in the way that they do and 99% of them don't get found guilty of any wrongdoing. they also need to implement more intense training. so, for instance, in virginia had just gone through diversity training on prevention of these kinds of violent instances but that's only two weeks and that won't change a lifetime of implicit bias. i think there needs to be more
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policy implemented towards diminishing implicit bias and promoting the safety of minorities throughout the nation. i think many of the candidates have taken steps towards that in implementing their new platforms on criminal justice but i think there needs to be a lot more work and currently i would say that bernie sanders is the best hope for the black community in the nation. >> so he's your pick so far? >> yeah. and i don't officially endorse anyone at the moment but based on the way things are going right now, what's been put out, i think bernie sanders is definitely the candidate for the black community at the moment. >> final question, martese, you're going into your fourth year at uva. what's next for you? what's your post graduation plan? >> i want to -- that's a tough question. >> that was a deep sigh. this is an exciting time for you. >> i hope to continue with my speaking engagements and hopefully influence and inspire people to push for policy change in their communities as well as
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support for a cultural change. aside from that, maybe a career in consulting and be able to live a normal life, to some extent. >> good luck to you. thank you for joining me, martese johnson. let's take you to ferguson, missouri. overnight, more unrest as it's been one year since the killing of michael brown. unlike the night before when a man was shot, there were no serious injuries to report today. and as the city of ferguson is really struggling to rebuild after the unrest from this past year, you can help them. just go to for ways that you can help. next, soda drinkers, you know what, diet pepsi is shaking things up, changing a recipe that millions love to drink by replacing this one key
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additive aspartame. here with me now is a cancer specialist at winthrop university hospital and author martha pease welcome, ladies. aspartame, is this a huge deal that they are taking this away? i think of aspartame -- maybe it's because of all of the noise -- i think of it as this evil thing put in soda. is it? >> it's been around since 1965 when the chemist first discovered it by licking his finger after finding a treatment and his finger was sweet. >> ulcer treatment and sweetener? >> i don't think that drug ever actually got into the general use. the important thing to say is it's been around for over 50
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years and no human study has ever showed that aspartame is not safe. all this mass hysteria came about was after a study in the '70s looking at rats and possible health issues related to hugely toxic doses of aspartame, way, way higher than anything that was ever taken and adjusted. >> so why would, to you, branding expert, would pepsi make such a drastic change? they are going to have to say -- i'm sure they will want to say, aspartame-free. >> this is a category where people's perceptions are really hard to change and so changing the fundamental ingredient and making news out of it is a really important way to get people's attention back on the product. aspartame in and of itself, changing that ingredient, doesn't have a lot to do with the overall composition of the product but what's been happening is, the core users, the core drinkers of diet pepsi
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have told pepsi, we don't like this ingredient in our product and if you change it, we're less likely to choose some other soda. we're more likely to stay with pepsi. that's the message that we're getting. >> quickly, because i was curious, i was talking to my team this morning because i swore off soda years ago although if you hand me a bag of sour patch kids, that's another story. people are drinking 25% less than years ago. do you think, though, with pepsi doing, this despite what you're saying about aspartame, do you think other soda manufacturers will follow suit? >> i think they probably will and the sucralose is perceived to be safer. huge numbers of studies have been done on that as well. it's a big issue. the perception is that aspartame, studies have looked at the cancer effect, the reproductive effect, the neurological effects on nerve
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function and brain damage. we know it's safe but the perception is aspartame is out and sucralose is perceived to be better. i think they will follow suit. >> my executive producer has just started drinking quite a bit of diet coke would like to know how much is too much of diet soda per day? >> it's a great question. we know with aspartame, the safe limits are if you are drinking less than 21 can as day, that's what the fda -- >> less than 21 cans? >> that's absolutely crazy, so -- >> give me a real number. >> we know that everything in moderation is important. but you're going to have to drink a lot of diet soda to exceed what is deemed the safe fda levels. >> i think later i might have to tell him that you really said two. thank you both very much. really appreciate it. next, what would donald trump do in the oval office? how about a plan to send more people to guantanamo bay, including americans? would that be legal? we'll talk about it.
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who fight for isis and put them in gitmo. is that even possible, jim sciutto? >> not on current law. there's already been established legal practice for dealing with americans accused of terrorism and every other week we're seeing the department of justice, the fbi arrest americans, sympathizers, et cetera, who they then process through the u.s. court system. this is something that goes back even in the bush administration, if you remember the american taliban, as he was known, captured during the first days of the war in afghanistan. he recognized as a u.s. citizen and was processed through the american system. even people accused of terrorism, if they are americans, they have rights and they are taken to court. they are not sent to guantanamo. the only case of an american sent to guantanamo was a detainee who they did not realize was born in the u.s. until after they got him to
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guantanamo. it was built, in effect, for foreigners and enemy combatants and not for americans who -- one trouble with the constitution, right, is americans have rights, legal rights. >> this is something that president obama talked a lot about when he was closing gitmo. where does that stand now? >> it's something that we're reporting out today. there have been delays over the course of years. one is the number of gitmo attorneys who returned to court, one in four. the other is when those are not returned to their home countries, where do you put them? the president says that they will have a plan that they will show to congress. one thing they are considering now, brooke, is putting some of the detainees into military facilities here in the u.s., military briggs as opposed to
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civilian prisons but they are still working on the plans and there have been a lot of delays. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much in washington for us today on guantanamo bay. >> thank you. now to this, we're getting chilling new details about the deadly limo accident involving tracy morgan in new jersey from last june. the result of that investigation has been released they revealed how long the truck driver had been awake moments before he slammed into morgan's limousine from behind, killing comedian james mcnair and seriously injuring tracy morgan. what did they find? >> the ntsb is blaming driver fatigue for this deadly chain reaction accident that happened on the jersey turnpike last year. his name is kevin roper. he had been awake for more than
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28 hours before he rearended that mercedes limo that was carrying tracy morgan. the truck slammed into the limo at a speed between 47 and 53 miles per hour. that is pretty fast. it flipped the limo on its side and set off a chain reaction crash involving 21 other people in six other cars and roper drove his personal vehicle 12 hours overnight from his home in georgia to his workplace in delaware and that was a roughly 1800-mile trip. immediately he reported for duty. investigators say that the driver didn't apply the brakes when he was on the new jersey turnpike until he was within 200 feet of the limo. they say that the delayed reaction was because he was sleepy. >> rene marsh, thank you. >> sure. next, the slender man case. two girls accused of attempted
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two girls in wisconsin not even old enough to see a pg-13 movie on their own accused of committing a real-live horror, so bloody that prosecutors are charging them as adults. now this judge has agreed, he's
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decided to keep the attempted murder case in adult court. both were 12 years of age when police say they stabbed their friend who was the same age, stabbed her 19 times leaving her to die. she survived and soon investigators learned the girls were trying to take a life, according to police, to save their own lives from this fictional character called slender man. listen to their interviews with police. >> when you guys were walking, you thought you saw slender? >> after morgan stabbed her. and he has tendrils that are very sharp. >> do you see him in your dreams? >> oh, i see him in my dreams. >> wtmj is keeping the case in adult court to prevent the
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release of the girls when they are 18. with me now is host nancy grace. now we know they'll be tried as adults. do you think this was the right call? >> well, absolutely. and it sounds much more harsh than it is. and i'll tell you why. and the judge set it out very plainly. if these two girls, now 13, were tried as juveniles, their sentence and their supervision and medical treatment, basically it would be a dormitory and they would live there until they are 18, which is five years and then they would walk free. they are going to be treated in the adult justice system, which means after they do their time, they will stay in juvie jail with other children until they are 18 and at that point they'll move to adult jail. but when they get out, which i
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would guess would be between five and seven years, they will still be monitored and treated if they show a mental instability. >> why do you think -- just on the flip side, what would defense attorneys say? how would they argue that being tried as adults wouldn't be fair? >> other than the usual blah, blah, blah, they are going to say that they are going to be subjected to inhumane treatment behind bars with adults. but the reality is -- and i've had to do this myself many, many times, brooke, treat a youth, you try them as an adult so their sentence will go on after they reach adulthood. nobody wants to see children put in jail with grown people, grown men or women. you don't want that. and that's not what is going to happen. that is a misconception. defense attorneys are going to argue that they are children and should be treated in juvenile court. and the law provides for this. >> what considerations -- i'm just wondering, you have these
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at the time two 12-year-old girls. what considerations are made for young people and whether they are even mentally mature enough to realize what it is they did? >> interesting thought. because that is one of the main contentions by their defense, is that their brains are not fully formed and i agree with that. i agree that you would do things at 10, 12 years old that you wouldn't do when you're 35 years old. of course. >> that's right. >> because you are not fully an adult. however, the crime of murder in this case, attempted murder, is so heinous, 19 stab wounds and not just stab wounds, they told her to lie there and go get help when in fact they did that so she would bleed out. their words, not mine. so they would not be detected. okay? that is heinous. >> and then one of the little girls i guess had a picture of her family. she really believed she wasn't going home. what a case. what a case. nancy grace, thank you so much. be sure to watch nancy
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weeknights on our sister station, hln, 8:00 eastern. thank you very much. next, millions of gallons of toxic waste dumped into this colorado river. it looks like orange sludge. what is this? people are worried their drinking water could be poisoned. we're talking about that coming up. also, donald trump, he opens his mouth, not quite sure what will come out. his take no prisoner approach to politics seems to be paying off. we have new poll numbers in with great news for trump's campaign. that's next. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.
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colorado's government just wrapped up a visit at the animas river where mining toxins were accidently spilled. let's go live to dan simon who
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is live in durango, colorado. how bad is this? >> reporter: first of all, brooke, the epa is usually in the business of responding to emergencies, not causing them. but that's what happened in this case. that's why this river, the animas river, still remains closed. much of the river looks okay, in other words, the color has returned to normal, there are still remnants of this nasty looking mustard color. we're talking about high levels of arsenic and lead, things dangerous to wildlife and humans. i put some of this in a bottle that you can see. that said, there are positive signs that the threat may be waning. this is what the governor said a short time ago. take a look. >> we're grateful and happy that the water levels appear to be back to normal. looking at the fish that pat here put into the water before
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the search came through, out of that 108 fish were put in cages at several spots along the river. only one died and that died right in the very beginning. could have died from -- that's not an unusual number when you transfer fish. so the other 107 fish appear fine. that implies that the level of toxicity was not at a dangerously high level. >> reporter: so just to put that in better context for you, what state officials did was put fish in the contaminated water and all but one of them lived. the evidence that there's a huge danger to wildlife officials, that said, they are still keeping a close eye on things and they haven't really fully disclosed what is in this water. what is it that turns the water so bizarre ree orange.
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>> well, what we're talking about is a 100-year-old gold mine. the epa was trying to clear out some of the water that was spewing and then all of a sudden, all of those chemicals, if you will, spilled into the water. we know that, again, there is lead in here, arsenic, some aluminum. we need to get a full accounting of what is in there. i think that's what the epa is trying to do and state officials are trying to do and at least what authorities in colorado are saying, that there's a chance that this river could open perhaps in the next day or two. brooke? >> dan simon, we'll keep a close eye. thank you very much. very important to watch that. also, just in, some pretty big news out of the nfl, another fight involving a big named quarterback. the jets quarterback geno smith will miss some games after a sucker punch by a player in the
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locker room. rachel nichols is on the phone. >> this is unusual, unless you're a fan of the new york jets. normally nfl starting quarterbacks don't get in the words of their head coach and hit by a teammate in a locker room. they had an argument, we don't know what it was about. the head coach, todd bowles, told us it was nothing to do with football, he says. it was very childish. he said he would leave it to the parties involved to say if the players wanted to tell the media what was going on. but he did say geno smith got sucker punched. he has a broken jaw. geno smith needs surgery. he's sent a photo saying, i'll be back, a terminator reference there. we won't see him back until week three or maybe even as late as
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week seven of the nfl season. >> rachel, this comes a day after the whole cam newton incident. what happened there? >> well, again, it is unusual for starting quarterbacks to get involved in a tussle but it was a much more usual thing that we're used to seeing. their emotions are high and they are hitting against their teammates which is not something that they do during the regular season. and on the field, we often see a training camps in one spot or another teammates going at each other and cam newt ton's case, he was throwing a cornerback, intercepted a pass and in a way that he didn't like. they got him chased down on the field and they got into it. we're used to seeing that. we're not used to seeing something in a locker room when
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tempers are much more relaxed and going up and punching the starting quarterback. this is huge. >> rachel nichols, thank you so much. >> talk to you soon, brooke. >> thanks. and we'll continue on. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump speaks. controversy follows and as new polls out today show, he keeps a tight grip atop the presidential race on the republican side. first, let me show you numbers from iowa. trump has pulled out ahead of scott walker. that is a switch from the two previous polls that showed walker leading trump. marco rubio has 10% followed by ben carson at 9 and cruz and carly fiorina at 7%. the boston herald and franklin pierce university poll here
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shows trump leading the field with 18% and they were ohio governor kasich at 12% and cruz at 10 and carly fiorina at 9. let's begin with dana bash who joins me now. here you have donald trump at the top of the polls and all of the conversations, he doesn't seem to be dinged too much. >> he really doesn't. and not just that, one of the things that, frankly, surprised me about the iowa poll was that the controversy had to do with women and then a controversy about what trump said to cnn's don lemon about megyn kelly. guess what, women actually say
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he should be the presidential nominee. he's winning better than anybody else in that poll. the one thing that is a little bit of a warning sign for donald trump in iowa is that 55% of the viewers in that debate said that they were less comfortable with trump as a candidate. that is a warning sign but given what i was hearing on the ground in cleveland from republican establishment figures about how poorly they thought he did pretty good for him. >> you had carly fiorina who did an excellent job and then home field advantage with john kasich, ohio governor nor and now we're seeing a bounce in the polls from the performances and especially given all of the
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eyeballs on the screen, people are now -- but they are learning. >> they are absolutely learning. he was barely registering in polls before that and just announced a few weeks ago, a few weeks before that debate, obviously he did well and maybe the more moderate stance he took on same-sex marriage, that he went to one, he would not judge his daughters. >>s that wa a huge applause line. >> but talking to more of the activists who work on these things, they said maybe it would hurt him. guess what new hampshire is called, a live free or die state. one of the biggest lines before the debate last week was, why
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isn't carly fiorina taking off more? she has a good resume and it's all about being an outsider right now, she's a woman. she did extraordinarily well in that debate and it's paying off for her in the iowa and new hampshire polls. which put her on the stage with the big boys. we'll see. no promises. >> i cannot wait until september 16th. >> i want to ask you a question about that. please, my friend, stick around. i want you to be part of this next panel. a panel of women are with me now. anchor for "the blaze," comedian judy gold and also susan is with me from manchester, new hampshire, also a supporter of the women for trump coalition. welcome, welcome, welcome to the
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women here. this is donald trump talking about the women who work for him. >> i have many women executives and i've always had. when i was back in the construction days, the big construction days, i had women in charge of big developments. >> do you pay them what you pay the men? >> so i was very, very pro women years ago and i have found that they are incredible executives. >> do you pay them the same? >> they are absolutely incredible executives. so i get the picture the same as anybody. >> do you pay them the same? do you pay the women at the top of your organization the same as men? >> yes, i do. absolutely. >> because that's what it comes down to. not that everybody is equal but you're equal when you deserve it. >> i pay, in many cases, the women more. i have women that get paid a lot of money. >> we laugh on the panel.
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by the way, we can't fact check that. private companies, and trump moved into the lead and the poll found no real gender japgap, po comments on women and the whole blood comment, we don't have to go there now and what i said now about megyn kelly, he didn't seem to be too dinged by the debate. amy, you first. >> it doesn't surprise me at all, brooke. i wouldn't accuse donald trump of being a sexist. i think he's juvenile and i wouldn't say he's a sexist and those who support him are well aware and familiar with trump's bombacity. >> susan, 30 seconds, thoughts?
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>> i don't believe that he keeps any secrets. he's right out there. he speaks his mind. i think people really like that about him and i certainly do. i appreciate it a lot and i believe him when he says he pays his women a lot of money and more money than he pays some of his men. and we know that there are rumors that there are other people who haven't paid their women as much as the men get, especially in the executive branch of the government right now. i know that women are not being paid the same as men and i just think that trump is right up there. people are really responding to him and i know a lot of women, myself, i communicate with all my friends and they are loving him. so -- >> okay. okay. >> i don't know what to say. he's really great. >> got you. judy gold, thoughts? >> hi, brooke. you know, look, donald trump is a personality. that's what he is.
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he's a personality. he's making the race exciting. come on, for a comic? this is like the greatest thing that ever happened to me. but, you know, he is who he is and we're always talking about, can you believe he said that? he says stuff like that all the time. it's the people who love him, like the woman -- the women that -- i'm fascinated more by the people who are going to vote for him because his personality is not really presidential. i can imagine him going overseas to negotiate -- his wife is a fat slob. you know, it's not how you do politics. and i just want to say, i know i'm tall and i know i'm a lesbian and i can't get a guy. i just want to -- donald. and i'm not funny. >> dana, let me bring your voice in here. >> gee, thanks, brooke. >> you're welcome. when i was watching with tapper on "state of the union" on
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sunday, i thought his interview with john kasich was great and trump said, listen, my campaign manager is a woman, i'm surrounded by women. whatever women touch is basically gold. paraphrasing. do you know how many women are in trump's campaign and especially in the upper echelons? >> his campaign is quite small. his spokeswoman is a woman but, beyond that, there are a lot of men but i also don't think that it's because he's not hiring women. i just don't think he's hiring many people at all. he is kind of his own adviser, his own spokesperson, his on strategist, his own everything. the one thing that i was thinking about was his daughter. >> yes. >> we all want to talk to his daughter. she is the top female -- >> can i finish? >> point of fact. the co-chair of his iowa efforts is a female and she's been very vocal is saying that she thinks
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megyn kelly is fair game. you saw those women who made a video saying, don't touch our trump. we love our donald. there are women who love this guy. he's basically jesse ventura with a billion dollars. >> you know, the scarier group of women are the women who will vote for rubio who believes that even if the case of rape or incest, that a woman should -- you've got to look at these people's -- >> dana? >> that's an excellent point by judy. what i've actually been hearing by some republican activists in the days after the debate is that on -- never mind kind of the personal issue that he got in with megyn kelly and so forth, but just on the issues, the issue of abortion, for example, that judy was just talking about, scott walker and marco rubio in the eyes of some republicans i've talked to, their position not wanting any exceptions of a ban on abortion, for any reason, whether it's the
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health of a woman, rape or incest or so forth makes then unelectable and donald trump is not there. he said to chris cuomo that he very much supports it for those reasons. >> honestly, i'm going to butt in here for a second and then -- >> go ahead. and then i have another question. >> okay. just really quick, we're not looking for a priest or a pastor. we're looking for a president. >> we're looking for a president. point taken, absolutely. and what donald trump keeps saying over and over, listen, i'm sick of this political correctness in the nation. we need to move past that. this is someone who doesn't forget things and doesn't apologize. >> right. he is who he is. he makes no apologies for it. a larger question is, they are having a debate and why did they talk about their relationship with god? that was one of the topics on
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the debate was god. and they don't talk about gun control. i mean, it's -- there's -- >> well, we are talking about the republican primary. >> right. >> but what led him to go there? >> republican leaning voter who is are most likely going to be second amendment voters as are all of the people on the stage. >> that's a big controversy among a republican candidate. >> right. but the question about -- >> what about trump on the contraception issue and planned parenthood, he might have made a big mistake with republican female voters this morning when he suggested to chris cuomo, your colleague, that he wouldn't necessarily want to defend planned parent hood, the things he likes, not the abortion. he's very unprepared to address issues for -- particularly, for republican primary voters. >> yeah. yeah. you think he should be specific on that? >> absolutely. >> if he was really specific on
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his policies and his plan, you know, perhaps we would take him more seriously. but we don't. >> or perhaps give everyone else a year and half to pick it apart. >> it's really like a reality show now. >> susan, finally to you as a trump supporter, here we are, you hear bombacity and these words being thrown around. hillary clinton yesterday called him entertainment before going on to jab jeb bush instead. what do you think? >> i think -- i'll tell you what i think about the entertainment part of it. i'm more entertained by hearing the talking heads and the people who are the experts in all of this and they are running themselves around in circles trying to figure out what it is about donald trump that is so successful and strikes a nerve so deeply and i'm entertained
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and happy to watch people wondering about this. i think he's straightforward, he says what he means and i'm hoping that we can have america back again and make america great again. >> can i just -- >> i think right now america is not great. >> are you raising your hand? >> yes, i'm raising my hand. >> i think the point is, no matter what he says, he gets a reaction out of everyone and that's maybe good, bad, he gets a reaction. and people are still interested. so please stay in the race so i can more jokes. >> for all comedians in america. thank you all, ladies, very, very much. appreciate it. let's do this again. coming up, he says it's one of the toughest decisions he's ever made. senator chuck schumer explains why he's voting against the deal. and the story out of
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new york democratic senator chuck smchumer says rejecting te iran deal is one of the toughest decisions he's ever had to make. >> this agreement sanctions a tle threshold nuclear iranian state. that means the united states and all of the governments of the world say it's okay for iran to be a threshold nuclear state. that's a lot different than doing it on its own. and that caused me real trouble. >> is senator schumer's "no" vote enough to close the deal? it would still need a whopping 44 needed in the house and 13 needed in the senate. nine are vowing to vote "no" and on the senate side, schumer
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appears to be the only to oppose the deal so far. he's hoping to be the next senate minority leader. i just want to bring you back, especially because of your interview days ago with president obama where you went through this in detail, if i may, if people haven't seen it, this is what he told you is on the line with regard to this deal. >> it's a complicated piece of business and we are negotiating with a regime that owes a debt to america and doesn't have a high approval rating here in the united states but the people who know most about the central challenge that we're trying to deal with, which is making sure that iran does not get a nuclear weapon, they are overwhelmingly in favor of it. >> i should point out, that was before senator schumer publicly
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said he would be a "no" vote. we ran through the numbers. do you think the deal is in jeopardy? >> i don't. because, first of all, you have a firewall in the house. house democrats, it's going to be very difficult to get those many house democrats to cross over not just vote against the president, vote against the party but also vote against the standard bearer of the party in 2016. remember, hillary clinton very early supported this deal. you'd be voting against hillary and the party and i don't think you'll find enough house or senate democrats either. >> what about the fact that we've heard senator schumer say they just need to start all over. that seems -- is that p preposterous? >> it's inconceivable. remember, this is a deal where first you had to put the sanctions in place. you had to get international coalition to get the sanctions
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in place. the united states has had sanctions again iran for 36 years. many of them stay in place. this is all about the international sanctions put in place during the obama administration. then you reach out to the iranians and then you get them to the table and the p5+1, the permanent members of the security council, russia, china, france, great britain, plus germany and they all sit down. you have to map out a coordinated position with all of these countries. so you're you can talking about other moving parts. every other nation with iran thinks this is a good deal. the u.n. security council voted 15-0 to support the deal. at this point, because the united states wants to go back, it's difficult to imagine you would be able to do that. >> you mentioned going back the firewall in the house and we know there's a contingency of congress, men and women in israel right now. just on the numbers, most notably, 22 democrats, including the number 22 ranking steny
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hoyer. most of them are undecided. the fact that they are in israel and this is all going on, which way will they vote, do you think that this will be a decision-making trip for them? >> look, it's entirely understandable that they should go and that people in israel are worried. israel faces a much more direct security challenge from iran than the united states. israel has many enemies in the region i think what they will discover is there are many people in israel who believe that this deal is the least of the bad alternatives that exist. the deal does a lot of things that retard the iranian program, that push it back in significant ways. they have to destroy 98% of their uranium.
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now, is it perfect? no. military strikes have many complications of its own. someone once said, we're in a land of lousy options and i think there are a lot of people in israel who recognize that of the lousy options, this may be the least lousy and i think it's a good idea for the house to hear that. of course, they will hear from many people in israel who are absolutely opposed to this deal. you know, which is, again, as i say, israel has real security and security concerns and it's entirely understandable they feel that way. i would just ask them, run the tape forward. you know, the last time iran walked off from the table, it had 164 centrifuges. it built up to 19,000 under international sanctions. in the year before it froze it is program during the negotiation, it built 5,000 centrifuges. so the likelihood is if they walk away, they are not going to sit back and do nothing. they are going to start building centrifuges again. that's not something that is
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good for the security of israel. >> fareed zakaria on the iran deal having just spoken with the president of the united states, thank you so much. love having you on the show. make sure to watch fareed every sunday morning here on cnn at 10:00 a.m. eastern, " fareed zakaria gps". coming up, a new poll showing that donald trump is maintaining his lead. and bernie sanders, look at these crowds, drawing 27,000 strong. can he turn this momentum into votes? we'll talk to one internet famous rapper who says he's leaving hillary clinton and now backing bernie sanders. plus, a sex scandal like no other. a lawmaker under investigation for allegedly devising a smear campaign against none other, himself. that's next. is rivaled only,cken cad
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bottom of the hour, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. michigan statehouse is conducting an investigation into a representative accused of faking a smear campaign all in an effort to deflect his attention over a reported affair with another state representative. let me bring in boris sanchez to explain to me all of the pieces of this puzzle. >> it's a complex story. >> yeah. >> the state representative is accused of coming up with a self-directed smear campaign to distract from an alleged affair with a fellow state representative. now investigators are looking at whether he inappropriately used funds to cover up an alleged affair. >> i will [ bleep ]. >> this is a recording, allegedly of michigan state representative todd courser. the republican making scandalous
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accusations about himself. >> most days he is high, stoned, on drugs and alcohol while he's supposed to be voting. in between, he has seduced and taken advantage of rep gamrat. >> this was made in secret with an aide that explained to the paper that courser can be heard reading from a draft of an e-mail that courser wrote himself. the e-mail alleged courser had sex with a male prostitute outside of a lansing nightclub. it was later sent to michigan representatives under a made-up name. >> what does this do? i need to, if possible, inoculate the herd against gutter politics that are coming. >> courser devised the e-mail after he reportedly received text messages threatening to reveal his alleged affair with fellow state representative cindy gamrat.
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>> he's a christian and just doesn't talk the talk but walks the walk. >> the two, who share an office, are both tea party conservatives. >> i'm a little to the right on every issue, even in the republican party. >> reporter: known for their stance on strong family values and featuring their families in their campaigns. >> together we can make a difference. our children are depending on us to get this right. >> reporter: but three days after the recording was made public, courser responded with an audio statement apologizing for his actions saying cindy had nothing to do with it and claiming that he fabricated the story and e-mail because he was being blackmailed and push to resign. he claims the whole plot was designed to smoke out the blackmailers. >> it was not my finest moment. it was the only option that i felt would be unpredicted by the blackmailer. >> reporter: serious allegations from a man who says he won't back down. >> i refuse to leave quietly and have decided that these efforts really need to come out. >> reporter: while todd courser
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has spoken out, cindy gamrat has not spoke about the allegations. cnn reached out to them multiple times and neither has responded. two aides were fired in july and another left his office in april. they released a joint statement saying in part, quote, attempts to blame others instead of accepting responsibility is unfortunate. most important, an investigation will reveal the truth. there is absolutely no truth to the accusations against us by mr. courser, as will be proven. i spoke to somebody at the statehouse who said that this investigation will take quite some time. >> boris sanchez, thank you so much. coming up, does hillary clinton have a bernie sanders problem? >> tonight, with the overflow crowd, we have more than 27,000 people! [cheers and applause ] >> on the same day, bernie
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sanders packed 27,000 supporters, he picked up a major union endorsement and a rap artist switches alliances from hillary clinton to sanders. this rapper is making the headlines today. he joins me to explain why he's now supporting sanders for president. i'm ready to crack like nobody's watching. why? because it's red lobster's crabfest. and there's so much crab, so many ways. and with dishes like this luscious crab lover's dream or savory snow crab bake. i'm just getting started so hurry in and get crackin'
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all right. 25-year-old rapper lil b doesn't have a record deal but you may recognize him from this. ♪ >> moderately famous hit called
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"van." he has youtube posts netting 60 million views, a catalog featuring thousands of songs, more than a million twitter followers including this man here. ♪ presidential candidate bernie sanders talking about lil b. in it, a nod to the now presidential candidate hillary clinton. the song a tad too inappropriate to play here on cnn but includes this rap endorsement. shoutout to hillary clinton, you going to win that presidency. but it's short lived. as much as i want a woman leading the usa right now, it's all about bernie sanders. he's the real deal.
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he loves us. hi, lil b. >> hi. >> thank you for joining us. you resonate among so many people, including the black lives matters movement and, if i may, i think the new yorker wrote about you a couple years ago summed it up the best. "lil b is the strangest rapper. he has no record deal but he is a celebrity on the internet." lil b, for people who have never heard of you, why do you think you're so influential when it comes to politics issues. >> to be honest, my range reaching everybody from the poorest of the poorest to the richest of the richest to the middle class. just me being honest and spreading love through music, having fun and, you know, just really being myself, priding myself on being myself, you know. >> in being yourself and in
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being honest, you have now made national news by declaring your support for bernie sanders and pulling away from hillary clinton. why did you switch? >> well, you know, the people that support lil b and support my music, they are so eccentric and have different viewpoints. when people bring things to my attention, i start to really pay attention because i know these people are special and have different viewpoints. a lot of people started talking to me about bernie sanders and they are like, hey, you need to pay attention to him and this is from all of the candidates, from republican to democratic. and i started paying attention a little bit more and, you know, really seeing that bernie was a part of fighting against segregation, that was something that really touched my heart and i appreciated because, most likely i don't think that was cool for him to do that back then but he still marched. as well as i heard he was for
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free education, which that makes me so happy because there's a lot of poor kids that might want to learn, that actually do want to learn and -- but just like health care, people are scared to go to the doctor because the bill will be so expensive. and i know for a fact that there is free education and that will lower black on black crime, you know what i mean, and crime in general. >> i hear you. all of these issues. so the people who love you so much are bringing these issues to your attention. granted hillary clinton just did unveil a college education program that would be loan-free. i hear you on bernie sanders, especially when it comes to his involvement in the civil rights movement. here's my next question. why do you think the black lives matter movement continues to interrupt her at events? also, important to mention, though, his -- bernie sanders' national press secretary is a black criminal justice advocate and is a supporter of the black
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lives movement. >> well, i think bernie handled the black lives matter demonstration, i think he handled it very classy. he didn't leave the stage. he let them speak. he was on stage with these ladies that felt the urgency to really speak and, you know, there's a lot of issues in the african-american community, the black community, whatever you identify with. and they need to be spoken about. a lot of people suppress these things. i am a victim of suppressing these things. i tend to turn the cheek on black violence because i've been -- it's been normalized to me. you see a black person get killed and you're like, oh. and i feel horrible about that. so i commend the people that are taking a stance and fighting. there's times where i actually do feel horrible and i do want to take a stance.
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it's just that i've been so desensitized and it's a frustrating position to be in. my mom calls me a republican sometimes and i'm like, i don't know about that. >> let me stay on that. it's important that you bring that up. and i think it's also, you know, noteworthy that a lot of these different candidates on both sides, the democrats and republicans are getting asked this question about the black lives movement, about race, about police brutality, a number of stories we've been covering for the best part of the last year. when you listen to these candidates, how do you judge which candidate gives the best answer for you on that? >> just really seeing which candidate goes -- who are they with the people, you know, just trying to see and with the people i mean the youth, the african-american people, the people that they call immigrants. or minorities. and that is where it hurts my feelings because i consider myself american but when i have
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to fill out a job application, i have to either pick african-american or black or something like that. which all ends up being statics and it's confusing. but -- so when i judge these candidates, i really just try to look at their authenticity because we're all judging and it's sad that we do that and we categorize. >> we do. we judge. >> yeah. i'm a victim of it because i judged hillary clinton. you know what i mean? and i'm not against hillary clinton. i support the clinton legacy. bill clinton, i support him so much that i love hillary on top. but -- >> you know, can i ask you, since you brought up hillary clinton, to use your word, is she cursed? >> right. can you repeat that, please? >> to use your word, is hillary clinton, now that you're not supporting her, is she cursed? >> hillary clinton is not cursed. >> there you.
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a young couple from mississippi just married, now behind bars, arrested for trying to join isis. these unlikely suspects had their bail denied after
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attempting to get to syria, disguised as their honeymoon. her father here is a police officer. pamela brown joins me now. tell me more about these two. >> from the outside, this seems like a very normal couple. they are newlyweds, they got married back in june. they're from mississippi, and their 20-year-old jalen young. they were arrested in in mississippi charged with trying to provide material support to isis after trying to travel to turkey and on to syria. the young woman right here, she's the daughter of a police officer of mississippi, she had been studying chemistry at mississippi state university. and law enforcement officials say she had recently converted to islam. her new husband was apparently the son of a local imam. these court documents we have been going through, allege the two began corresponding on
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social media with undercover fbi agents in may. talked about wanting to join isis and syria. the woman seemed to be the most enthusiastic about joining the terrorist group, talking about wanting to have kids in syria, and authorities say she even praise the recent chattanooga shooting that killed four marines. what makes me feel better after watching the news is that ia brother carried out an attack against marines in tennessee. disturbing. she told undercover agents the two could provide a variety of skills including expertise, medical aid as well, after they were arrested at the airport, they confessed to attempting to join isis. this is exactly what authorities have been warning about, the concern of the influence social media has on young people. >> is honeymoon in syria, perhaps not. pamela brown, thank you very much. coming up, more on our
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breaking news. new polling just released showing donald trump maintaining his lead as the republican front-runner for president. and also, next, a video that's tough to look at here. the bike race through the utah mountains goes terribly wrong. i bundled renter's with my car insurance through progressive for just six bucks more a month. word. there's looters running wild out there. covered for theft. okay. that's a tidal wave of fire. covered for fire. what, what? all right. fine. i'm gonna get something to eat. the boy's kind of a drama queen. just wait. where's my burrito? [ chuckles ] worst apocalypse ever. protecting you till the end. now, that's progressive.
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we're learning new details about the crash that injured tracy morgan and killed james mcnair last year. the time of the crash, walmart truck drover kevin roper had been awake for 28 hours and driving 20 miles per hour over the speed limit. it happened when roper slammed into the back of a limo carrying morgan, mcnair and several others. he has been charged with death by auto and four counts of assault by auto. and before i show you this
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next video, keep in mind we are showing it to you because i can tell you this guy survives. it's tough to watch, keep your eye on the highlighted bike on the left of your screen. >> that guy's hurt. >> i don't care how many times you watch that, it's just -- the first cyclist, he broke several ribs, punctured a lung, fractured his pelvis. other than all of that, he is okay. that was the support vehicle that he slammed into, it happened on a mountain during the tour of utah. okay. enough, before i go, you don't want to miss the second republican debate on september 16th at the ronald reagan library in california, and cnn will be hosting the first of the six democratic debates, the october 13th debate live from
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nevada right here on cnn. that does it for me here in new york, i'm brooke baldwin, thanks for being with me. see you back here tomorrow. in the meantime, keep it on cnn, "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. he seems to get stronger each time he tram bells on the political playbook, now, donald trump tells cnn, that's his campaign strategy. i'm jake tapper this is the lead. the politics lead, news for those of you tired of hearing donald trump speak. now says he's going to keep wining and wining until he wins. the new iowa poll shows this strategy might be just crazy enough to work. the world lead. what north korea has been up to, while the world has been focusing on iran. why melting snow may reveal a major upgrade to