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he didn't want to lose. >> he is a fiercely competitive guy, whether it's politics or sports. i know he has fun on the golf course. again, that's mostly an opportunity for him to clear his mind, not talk about work, leave business aside for a few hours. >> for president obama, whose job often puts him in the rough with no hope for a mulligan, golf is good preparation for the next round in his life, no more politics. all the golf the president desires are only a year and a half away. >> a round of golf sounds pretty good right now. "fareed zakaria gps" starts right now. this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i am fareed zakaria. let's start today's show with what money experts are calling the biggest military threat to the united states and many other nations too.
russia. could the increasingly urgent situation in ukraine explode into war? also, inside enemy territory. what happens when a reporter for a jewish publication goes to iran? the answer might surprise you. i will talk to that reporter about what he learned. and, the future of work. will computers take over for lawyers and doctors and all of us? will robots replace most workers? i'll talk to the author of an eye-opening cover essay in the atlantic. finally, the long hot summer is almost over, but the heat may be here to stay. i'll explain. but first here is my take. while we have been watching isis and discussing iran, something much bigger is happening in the world. we are witnessing a historic fall in the price of oil. down more than 50% in less than a year. when a similar drop happened in
the 1980s, the soviet union collapsed. what will it mean now? nick butler, the former head of strategy for bp, told me we are in for a longer and more sustained period of low oil prices than in the late 1980s. why? he points to a perfect storm. supply is up substantially because a decade of high oil prices encouraged producers throughout the world to invest vast amounts of money in finding new sources. those investments are made and will keep supply flowing for years. the former head of strategy for the italian energy giant says there is no way to stop this phenomenon. he predicts that prices could actually drop down to $35 a barrel next year. a primary reason that the price decline has accelerated is that saudi arabia, the world's swing supplier, that is, the one that can most easily increase or decrease production, has decided to keep pumping.
the saudis know it hurts them, but they hope it will hurt everyone else more. one of saudi arabia's main aims is to put american producers of shale and tight oil out of business. so far it's not worked. though battered by plunging prices american firms have used technology and smart business practices to stay afloat. major oil-producing countries everywhere are facing a fiscal reckoning like nothing they've seen in decades, perhaps ever. let's take a brief tour of this new world. venezuela. hugo chavez's popularity, 20th century socialism and mismanagement of the country's economy were made possible by one factor, a prolonged oil boom. oil makes up 96% of venezuela's exports. its economy is estimated to shrink by 7% this year, having already contracted by 4% last
year. russia. like chavez, vladimir putin's popularity coincided perfectly with the steep rise in oil prices, which meant higher russian gdp, government revenues and subsidies to the people. all that is reversing. russia economy is predicted to shrink by 3.4% this year. revenues for the national gas giant are estimated to fall by almost 30% this year. remember, gas prom is the machine that provides finances for putin's clique that runs the country said butler, a visiting professor now at kings college, london. iraq. oil makes up around 90% of the bagdad government's revenue. and despite the fact that it is pumping out as much as possible, it faces a massive drop in available funds. this is the backdrop behind the fragility of the government and the rising levels of sectarian
strife which have paved the way for isis. with limited resources the shiite government in bagdad is hard-pressed to make patronage payments to the sunnis. iran. despite the initial windfall that iran will get from the relaxation of sanctions it is, like most petro states, dysfunctional. the imf estimates that iran needs prices to be at almost $100 a barrel to balance its budget. so in the medium term it will face pressures just like the others. many american experts and commentators have hoped for low oil prices as a way to deprive unsavory regimes around the globe of easy money. well, now it's happening, but at a speed that might produce enormous turmoil and uncertainty in an already anxious world. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington post column this week. and let's get started. ♪
last week the outgoing army chief of staff general ray odierno told reporters that russia was the most dangerous threat that the united states faced because of the trouble moscow was causing in ukraine. that trouble has been, by all reports, ins tentensifying in r weeks. odierno closed by saying we should pay a lot of attention to russia and its actions there. that's what we'll do today. my two guests dealt with russia politically and militarily. wesley clark was a four-star general and nato's supreme allied commander in europe. and radek sikorski is defense minister of poland. you visited the area and have a pretty bleak assessment.
first tell us, what is happening on the ground. >> what's happening on the ground is there is about a 450-kilometer zone of contact. and along that zone the separatists under russian command and control are probing and bleeding the ukrainian military. behind the separatists forces 50,000 russian main force units are staged on the border between ukraine and russia and could intervene if vladimir putin pulls the trigger. >> what would you say to somebody like henry kissinger who has argued consistently that you cannot stabilize ukraine without the cooperation of russia. russia has to be involved in this policy of confrontation is fundamentally the wrong way to go? >> well, because this is all about lincoln. and it's a question of interests. and so, what putin has done is
has played linkage against us. what he's done is he has said to the american administration that, if you want my cooperation on iran, don't push me too hard on ukraine. we have to play linkages right back. russia has a lot of interests in the world. and ukraine is one of them. but we have to make it clear to him that the territorial integrity of ukraine, that's non-negotiable. you can't invade a country, you can't give to russia the right to interfere and intervene in the internal affairs of these states in its area. i was with the president of bulgaria. he said, this is just crazy. he said, we're acting like putin has the right to come in and tell us what to do. just because he is a bigger country. that's what the 20th century was all about. we said borders were sacrosanct. we pledged during the cold war
that we have prevent this kind of thing. we set up nato to prevent that. we brought new members into nato. we have to stand on our commitments. that's essential to the rule of law worldwide. >> radek sikorski, how did we get here? i think there was a sense that putin had annexed crimea, which triggered reaction in the west. the west imposed sanctions on russia. we thought this would deter putin and some putin from more adven tourism. what happened? >> president putin spoke of ukraine as an artificial country already at the nato summit in bucharest in 2008. and as we know, some of those plans in georgia for crimea, for ukraine, had been laid down before. president putin has had largely
misspent the oil boom's money, but he has invested heavily in his armed forces. and we are now seeing the results of that. >> what does this tell you about his intentions? is he -- i mean, what does he want to do? what is the goal here? >> well, it's very difficult to gauge anybody's intentions. what we can determine are the outcome of their actions. and what i think we should do is, first of all, convince president putin that the nato area is out of bounds for russian military adven tourism. secondly, i would try to convince president putin that, if he moves further into ukraine, he will face a prolonged conflict that he cannot win. and then thirdly i think we should persuade him that time is not working in his favor, that ukraine is reforming itself. whereas, the conflict is costing russia too much.
then i believe he might be willing to make a deal and withdraw from the occupation of ukraine. ideally we need a process in which the european union and the united states should participate. that would fix all of the frozen conflicts on the former soviet periphery. >> wes, you would like us to do -- you would like the united states to do a lot more to support ukraine. you would like to arm ukraine more. do you think that's -- is that a viable strategy given that russia, i think the last number i saw, outspends ukraine 20 to 1 in terms of defense dollars? >> you have to drive up the cost to russia of aggression. you have to convince them there is no quick and easy military option. so the russians have a lot of modern technology. long-range missiles. they've got unmanned ariel vehicles. a lot of electronic warfare.
what the ukrainians have been seeking are some very simple, basic, updated anti-tank gear. we have it and have refused to supply it. i think it should be supplied. >> radek, should there be a nato base in poland. >> there are nato bases in britain, in germany, in spain, in portugal, in italy, in turkey, and your generals are saying one after another that the actual threat is from the east. so where do you think nato bases should be? i guess where they are needed, huh? >> general clark, would you agree? >> i do. >> that would be a major change in policy on that point of agreement. >> it would, but you have to adapt the policy to changing circumstances. and the key here is that mr. putin can't believe that he can bully these countries and the united states in particular will look aside. you know, nato was our creation. we've always been the leader of
this alliance. we haven't relied on germany or britain or france to say, you lead us, boys, and we'll be there with logistics. we were the leaders. they came to us after world war ii. we saw it through the cold war. now nations in eastern europe -- are coming to the united states and asking for leadership. we should provide it. >> general wesley clark, radek sikorski, pleasure to have you on. next up. iranian leaders have repeatedly called for the elimination of israel. they utterly and completely reject zionism but invited a jewish journalist to report in iran. the first allowed in since the revolution of 1979. what did he find in that
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later he posted a listcal of sorts. nine key questions about the elimination of israel. iran's former president was infamous for his denial of the holocaust. how would you like to be a pro israeli jewish reporter for a jewish publication and get off the plane in iran? my next guest did just that. larry koehler. editor at the forward has said to have been the first reporter from the jewish media to be credentialed to report in the islamic republic of iran since the 1979-revolution. larry, a pleasure to have you on. >> thank you very much. >> give me your dominant, you know, reaction. what was the thing that struck you the most? that surprised you the most.
>> well, the first thing to make clear is that i specified to everybody i met, both ordinary iranians, ayatollahs and a couple government officials, who i recommended. i identified myself as a reporter for the forward, which a prominent american jewish newspaper. from the most hard-line politicians who are very much in line with that ayatollah khamenei said or who opposed him. nobody batted an eye lash about representing a jewish media outlet. the hard-liners make a compartmentalization against jews who they consider people of the book under muslim and zionists who are a maligned international force that has nothing to do with jews or judaism. >> you talked about how jewish life in iran can be rich.
you point out that there are 13 active synagogues. five jewish schools. two kindergartens and a 100-bed jewish hospital. did that surprise you? >> no. because i had done research earlier. i know it is surprising to other people. but yes. they do have a community there. it is much smaller than the community that existed before khomeini came to power and the shah was over thrown. there are estimates between 9,000 and 20,000 jews. before the revolution in 1989 there were 87,000 to 100,000. life is possible there. everything you said is correct. many jews have chosen to make their lives elsewhere since the revolution. >> is it your sense that the jews of iran are living fulfilled lives, or are they embattled and miserable, i guess would be the simplest way to put
it? >> they're not miserable, but they have discriminations. one of the leaders who i quoted in my story said, we're not oppressed, but there are limitations. and that's true, and it has many specific, multiple meanings. if an -- under shariah, if a muslim murders a jew, i was told by this jewish leader the price is blood money. that's the penalty. but if a jew marries -- if a jew murders a muslim the price is execution. they were very proud because they are pushing back against these limitations if their own way, but they do not challenge in any way the legitimacy of shariah. that gives them many disadvantages which they then try to figure out ways around and ways to fight. >> the american foreign policy writer peter barnard who happens to be jewish posits that if the at tehran regime had homicidal
leanings to the jews they would have taken it out against them. do you buy that? no. i don't agree with that. i certainly agree with the fact that the jews in iran are not being harmed or actively oppressed notwithstanding the discrimination i mentioned. but there are 6 million jews living in israel. as you mentioned, there are statements by leaders such as the supreme leader that talk about eliminating that state which would involve eliminating many lives to make it happen. they have 9,000 and 20,000 jews in iran who are accommodated within their civilian, within their society. they do that for many reasons. it may be a political asset for them to have a community of jews even though a shrinking one, that they can point to and say,
look, these are our jews in our country, and we're not doing anything to them, while maintaining a position towards israel which, of necessity, would involve a military war that could kill many people including civilians to get rid of the idea of a jewish state. >> fascinating report, larry. >> thank you. pleasure to be here. next on "gps" my case for why the united states military should allow women in all combat roles. seems to me a no-brainer. when we come back. purse is staro look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ .
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you now for our what in the world seg am. earlier this month at the republican presidential debate former governor mike huckabee was asked how he felt with transgender soldiers serving openly in the military. >> as commander in chief, how would you handle that? >> the military is not a social experiment. the purpose of the military is kill people and break things. it's not to transform the
culture by trying out some ideas that some people think would make us a different country and more diverse. >> actually, america's military has always eventually reflected the country it protects, evolving and becoming more inclusive over time. it de-segregated the races in 1948. it allowed gays to serve openly in 2011. and just this week, two soldiers became the first women to graduate from the elite u.s. army ranger course. one of the most challenging feats in the military. they endured a 62-day test of wills, participating in grueling evaluations and mock combat patrols on very little food and sleep, just like the men. but despite their publishmeaccot which only a tiny number of soldiers can claim they can't actually fight as army rangers because the u.s. military currently prohibits women from
participating in certain combat roles. the military's ban on having women in combat roles was rebealed a few years ago. it hasn't gone into effect yet. it's time to fully lift the ban. if you look at other countries women have been fighting in direct combat roles with great success for decades. several european nations allow women to fight in combat according to the "washington post." in israel where preparedness and war fighting are absolutely critical, women are required to serve in the military, as are all men. well over half the soldiers in the israeli defense forces are female as of 2014. one combat battalion that grdz israel's border with egypt is 60% female. canada has been allowing women to fight in all combat roles except submarine duty since 1989. since 2000 they've been allowed to fight on subs as well.
canadian women fought on the front lines in afghanistan for over a decade, like captain ashley colette, who commanded a platoon and received the nation's third highest military honor. even north korea's military has women in combat roles according to "the post." when you're more behind the times than kim jong-un, you know you have a problem. the arguments against women serving in combat have been raised time and again, that they lack the physical strength, that they'll threaten troop morale. countries like israel have reportedly experienced challenges integrating women. that's to be expected. big changes are hard. that's an argument to do them carefully and well, not to resist them. there is a chance to the next commander in chief will be a woman. next on "gps" are robots and machines going to take over all our jobs? >> you look at sort of the fleet of automative technologies that exists right now, and it's
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and the other 50%, well, they work more than 40 hours a week. but are we at a turning point? will the huge advances in robotics and artificial intelligence strip away more and more jobs from us humans? until we are all working about 15 hours a week. and will that be the fulfillment of canes' dream or a nightmare of part-time work, low wages and job insecurity. derek thompson wrote a long read about this. you start with youngstown, ohio. explain why. >> it was in many ways the american dream of the 20th century. it had one of the highest typical incomes for young people, perhaps the highest rate of home ownership in any state of the u.s. then the steel industry started to collapse. globalization and technology.
in 1977 an enormous steel mill in youngstown shut down. while the rest of america thinks about the end of work as a futuristic concept youngstown has experienced something very much like the end of work. i went there to see how have they dealt with it in the decade since. >> what did you find? >> in many ways people -- people are still leaving youngstown. the effects are still rippling through this community. what i found, as people have found fewer opportunities of full-time work in the labor force that exicssts in youngsto, they've found ways to make do. people work as t-shirt designers, bartenders and they do urban agriculture and fix cars and write poetry. what's interesting is when most people go to say a social gathering, the question is what do you do? what's the one thing you do? in youngstown the question isn't what's the one thing.
it's what can you do, the four or five things. what struck me as fascinating about youngstown is, if this is a glimpse of the future and the pillar of work that was steel there collapses for more of us, will it be replaced with despondency or something like resiliency. >> the traditional answer to your question, your puzzle about youngstown would have been, yes, derek, of course they're leaving and of course the people who stay behind are having sticky or difficult lives but you're not looking at all the places in the southwest that are growing, there are new industries and communities that are thriving and bulk. and that in aggregate what's happened is that new industries and new jobs have come along. you say in the article that this time it may be different. >> there is no question that the grand narrative of technological change is creative.
we are doing jobs we couldn't have done 200 years ago as an agrarian economy. we're now a services economy and what comes next. you look at sort of the fleet of automative technologies, of software that exists right now, and it's rather frightening to me to think about how many jobs can be replaced by technologies that we understand to be right on the horizon. two examples. the first example is driving. driving is the most common occupation among american men. >> you said that in the article. i was surprised by that. cab drivers, limo drivers? >> cab and truck drivers. put together, it's the single biggest thing that american men do. we are talking about google self-driving cars and uber. this is a serious threat to employment in the u.s. if you begin to have self-driving automobiles. then you look at the four most
common occupations in the u.s. economy. they are retail sales person, cashier, food and beverage worker, office clerk. all of these jobs, according to oxford university, which has looked at the auto meitiv ability of these in the u.s. see them as extremely automative. better check out kiosks or machines or with technology that's on the horizon. i do think that this time is different. we are not back in 1920 or 1950. this is a new horizon. >> that comes back to the youngstown model, which is this collection of part-time jobs and some leisure, poetry and such. is that good? is that progress? >> this is perhaps the essential question of the piece. do we need to work to be happy. this is a very difficult question to answer because right now everybody -- most people need to work in order to have money, and they need money in order to buy the essentials of life. so it's sort of like asking
would we be less anxious without gravity. it's difficult to find a control group for this question. there is something about busyness, something about losing yourself in the flow of a job and the flow of a good challenge that does really feed the human soul. and so, when i look at this piece, when i look at this future, i think leisure is a possibility. you could have a lot of people who just don't do anything. but i don't see that as even scraping utopia. i hope that we can find ways to push people into jobs that are more creative, that allow for more of this flow, less of the anxiety, more of the positive feelings, that we can use technological change to allow people to perhaps find their passions. >> do you end up hopeful or worried? >> i am hopeful about people and extremely worried about government. i don't think that the government that we have today can enact a law like a universe basic income, a social security
for everyone, a government check for everybody, which i think is absolutely essential for people to use technological change, to use technological unemployment to push toward a better future. i don't see that in the capacity of 2015's u.s. federal government. at the same time i think people themselves are resilient and want to be happy. you can imagine all sorts of community solutions to the problem, even technological solutions to the problem of technological unemployment by which people can come together and do things we can't imagine right now which would make them feel more fulfilled. >> now that we know we'll all be working for a few more years, what would make us happiest at work? more pay probably. more empowerment. watch the next segment. turns out what's good for employees is also good for the bottom line for employers. and m. it's how you stay connected to each other
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questions, you'll want to listen to my next guest and tell your boss about her. she has a contrarian view of what helps the bottom line. while many in correspondent america like to use the axe to improve the balance sheet by cutting staff, salaries and benefits, she says they should do just the opposite. sounds good, right? she has come up with what she calls the good jobs strategy for business success. she is an adjunct associate professor at m.i.t.'s sloan school of management. the theory comes out of ten years of research studying retail operations. welcome. >> thank you. >> what i am struck by is what you're describing seems too good to be true. for so long the mantra has been that we are in a fierce global competition, companies are facing all this competition from all over the world. they have to cut costs, cut costs and cut costs and as a result that's one of the forces
that has kept median wages in america and in the western world pretty flat. you're saying that companies are actually making the wrong decision. >> yes. so the conventional wisdom in business is, if you want to offer the lowest prices to our customers, then we must pay our employees as little as possible and treat them as interchangeable parts. what i found in my research is that the tradeoff between low prices and good jobs is forced tradeoffs. if the companies run the operations well, they can have low prices, good jobs and great shareholders' returns at the same time. >> give me an example of the kind of company -- >> the types of companies i studied are supermarkets, warehouse clubs. convenience stores with gas stations. >> low-margin -- >> that's companies are fighting in low-margin industries, and they need their costs to be as low as possible. the way they do that is through investing in their workers and
making some very smart choices. the thing is, when i looked at companies like spain's largest supermarket chain, i found that they weren't just paying their people more, they were actually designing a whole system that improved people's productivity and enabled their employees to play a big role in the company's success. >> does one piece of this, you're saying paying higher wages. what are they getting in return? >> we have to think about higher wages in a broader context of a company's strategy. let me give you an example. the companies that i observed -- if you go to a low-cost supermarket, chances are you won't be able to find people to help you. most companies see labor as a cost so they try to have as few people as possible on the selling floor. the companies i studied deliberately have more people than the expected workload. how can this be good for them, you might say. this is great for them because,
when a store is understaffed there are lots of problems. the checkout lines are too long, products are in the wrong place, the prices are inaccurate. and these increase costs and lower service. so the companies that i studied recognizes, so they ensure that these costs are not observed and they realize that if they give their employees enough time, they could identify improvement opportunities so that they can reduce costs everywhere else in the system. >> in a way, the western capitalist model seemed to be moving away from this because it used to be, you know, that when you made products, the human being was involved in making all parts of that product. it was almost like a craft. and then you get the assembly line and henry ford says, no, i'm going to break these jobs up into very discrete tasks and you just have to turn the screw, and you just have to hit the hammer, and we're a going to make it so that it becomes very mechanical. are you saying we need to return
to the 19th century artisnal model? >> i'm saying after henry ford toyota came along and said that model is not right. we want the standardization but we also want an empowered assembly line worker to identify problems and be part of the improvements. through investing in people toyota showed us that it can lower costs and increase quality at the same time. i'm saying that the type of evolution that we saw in the auto industry, the toyota revolution. we can see it in industries like retail through a good jobs revolution. >> in a sense the toyota example suggests that, even though your research is mostly in retail, it could be applicable everywhere. >> absolutely. in fact, i stand on the shoulders of other academics who have argued for a long time that investing in workers and making smart decisions drive great value for companies and their investors. >> what does it say about capitalism that so many
capitalists are doing this wrong? is it a focus on short-term that's wrong? how would you describe it? you're saying all these companies are not understanding their own enlightened self-interest. >> i'm all for capitalism. but a lot of good jobs strategy requires a long-term view. and people are wired to emphasize the short term at the expense of the long term. people still smoke, they still don't exercise. we know that. in addition, good jobs strategy is a holistic strategy. it requires a systems view. it's not about just raising wages. it's not just about training. a lot of companies are stuck in silos. they work in silos. they don't see the whole picture. achieving excellence is always harder than achieving mediocrity. >> thank you so much. >> my pleasure. next on "gps," has it been a hot summer where you are?
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16-year-old son but i got hooked reading it. the great scientist and writer sets out to explain very simply some of the fundamental realities of the world like who was the first person. why are there so many species, how and why did everything begin, it's brilliantly conceived and loosely written, one of the great books to make sense of the world around us. everyone including my son should read it. now for the last look. it's not your imagination. it has been swelteringly hot out there. according to noaa, the first half of 2015 ranked as the warmest period on record. additionally, nasa found this july was the hottest ever recorded on planet earth. records were broken all over the planet, but none as extreme as the middle east. in this city of iran the heat index neared a world record reaching 165 degrees fahrenheit. in neighboring iraq, it's been
reported the heat has eclipsed war with the islamic state. protests about the lack of air-conditioning have brought something miraculous from the government in bagdad. responsiveness. officials have been fired and as we discussed on last week's show, major reforms have been proposed. the leaders of the world would be wise to witness and pay heed to what happened in iraq. if they don't do something to mitigate the effects of climate change now, protests will be coming to their capitals soon enough. the correction answer to the challenge question is a bit of a trick. chile, canada, sweden and germany all rank higher than the united states in terms of freedom. the united states which was ranked as the 17th most free country in 2008 found its ranking drop three spots to the 20th most free country in the world now. the report's author says the main factors for the u.s.'s low
ranking included long-term declines in economic freedom and a drop in rule of law indicators as a result of the war on terror and drugs. perhaps such rankings will be a nudge for leaders of the land of the free. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. good morning. i'm brian stelter. it's time for "reliable sources" with a fantastic lineup of stories this hour including a follow-up to this dramatic exchange between donald trump and news reporter. >> that's an offensive term. people find it hurtful. >> you mean it's politically incorrect and nobody uses it. excuse me. i'll use the word "anchor baby." >> we'll talk about politically charged phrase plus journalistic lessons from