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sergeant michael was motivated to sign up for the army and did that as soon as he was old enough. an accident in afghanistan nearly cost him his life. the people he knew and loved most stepped up. he and his four kids now have a brand new house to come thome t. his church and neighbors came together to build it. >> it's been a labor of love. we all rallied together and decided that we want to honor a hero. >> thank you. i mean, words can't really express the gratitude that i have. >> it came to his community because he didn't get a purple heart. and if you don't get a purple ha heart they won't build a house. "newsroom" begins right now.
♪ happening now on the "newsroom," inside the mind of a killer and inside these apartment. did he think he would get away with murdering two journalists? also, alison parker's father find his mission in his mourning. >> we've got to do something to keep people who are mentally disturbed away from guns. >> will this shooting be the tipping point? . and it's got 2016 presidential candidates talking, including donald trump. >> it's not about the guns. it's about mental instability. >> we're speaking with one of those candidates next. let's talk, live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in today for carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this friday morning. in roanoke, virginia, a site
that will always be haunted by a horrific crime is open today for business. they resume, quote, normal business hours today. this as we get a new gimlimpse into the troubled mind and the bleak home of their murderer. he texted a friend saying, quote, he had done something stupid. that is according to documents seeking a search warrant. this is a look inside of flanigan's apartment. his refrigerator covered with glamour photos, all of himself. his one bedroom apartment stark and drab. his bed stripped of sheets. we also hear more from the boyfriend of alislison parison . they're launching a self-described crusade for gun control. we don't have that sound.
we will bring it to you as soon as we do. but an impassioned plea from both the father of alison parker and her boyfriend, the love of her life pleai inin ining for t country to do something. >> reporter: good morning, poppy. words of comfort and condolence continue to pour in from the community here. investigators working around the clock trying to make some sense of what's been happening here. what we do know is we are expecting, according to the general manager at wdbj they are expecting a visit from virginia governor terri -- tereven the m
responsible gun owners with stronger background checks. we do expect him to visit wdbj, a place that was the second home for the victims in this whole tragic incident. we're told the governor expected to meet with some of the managers here at the tv station before meeting with the rest of the employees. i have to tell you that's really one of the positive ends of the story here is just the resilience we've seen with this news team. behind the tears and really through the tears they work to keep their community informed. and they do so not necessarily because it's their job or they want to keep folks up to date on what's happening, but also they want to honor the memory of their colleagues. that seems to be the focus here, not necessarily on vester flanagan and his terrible acts that happened wednesday morning but on the people who lived short, very accomplished
livings, poppy. >> polo, thank you very much for the reporting there. as polo mentioned, that news team somehow holding it together and doing their job and reporting the news through all of this pain, losing their blei colleagues. we're hearing more from the anchor who was on the air when those gunshots rang out and those two lives were cut short. >> i did not think bullets. that was not in my mind at all. as time went on, as people in the control room for trying we get in touch with them through texting, the longer it was that we didn't get a response from either of them, the more it was very, very clear that something had happened, that something was very wrong. each moment i got more and more worried. and it was toward the end of the newscast, came back and we
addressed the sounds to our viewers. we said we know you heard a sound during alison's live shot. we don't know exactly what it is. we will let you know when we do. it was after we were off the air that we found out. >> and it would be later still before she and others would realize it was a former coworker who who pulled that trigger. vester flanagan had long raised red flags in the workplace. and vinrtually every place he hd worked before. you know, this week a lot of people are wondering how could this happen, i think, for a lot of journalists it feels so close to home. >> absolutely. >> when you look at the mind set of someone like this, he was not diagnosed with a mental illness that we know of at this point. as one person said, anyone who
idolized murderers, people like the virginia tech shooter, obviously has an illness. >> yes. and i think we really need to educate the public as to what mental illness is about. a lot of people think it's about either depression or a bipolar manic depression or schizophrenia, hearing voices. but there are also another class of mental illnesses and what i think this person may have, though i did not examine him of course. we're talking about lifelong personality disorders. they react with anger in a way that most people don't. he was consistently angry. >> this is someone who made a list sort of of all the strikes, everything he feels thoohappene
him, that he was afflicted over and over again. however, this is someone who got hired as a television news reporter at this station. the ability to mask this -- >> yes. the ability to mask, not being aware of how ill one really is, there's no doubt in my mind that at some point he experienced discrimination as a black man, as a gay man. but we all experience discrimination for those reasons, being black, gay, a woman, what have you, not weighing one against the other, of course. you know, some conditions that we are exposed to can make us very, very angry. but how do we handle that anger? how do we seek legal process recourse in order to deal with it. and it was clear that he went completely over the top.
and we see that mental instability expressing itself in very explosive behaviors. >> what is the difference between losing your temper and something like this? >> certainly we all lose our temper. >> when he was fired he went completely berserk. >> it's one thing to be angry and say something that you regret. it's another thing to threaten everyone around you, threaten someone with death or people with death. when people are locking down from that, that's a clear indication that this person has a mental illness that goes beyond anger. now we're talking about unbridled rage. it's not like he had an issue with one person and tried to work it out. he had issues with almost earn in the newsroom. i believe this was a man who may
not have been trying to mask the mental illness, but was not aware of it. and number two, who was wrestling with trying to keep his sanity, as many people do who this mental illness. they don't want to be this way. it makes life impossible for them and those around them. they want to be normal. >> we know he sent a 23-page letter to abc news. some read it as a suicide note. we know he planned to get away. he swapped out cars. he was in a rental car. he had disguises, different license plates. then he tweets after basically admitting that he did it. what do you read into that? >> with these two different mind sets, one is being murderous. and the other is wanting to be caught. i believe -- again, psychological crystal ball, that this was an individual who
didn't want to disappear and get away, as some people think. i think he just wanted to extend this for as long as possible, the reign of terror, getting his words out there, his idea out there. but at the end of the day, he was going to commit suicide. he would not be taken alive, as we see with many of the mass shooters. >> thank you so much. still to come here, donald trump touting his support from a specific group, but that is not what the polls are saying. what's going on? we review the poll numbers and get reaction. when you're not confident you have complete visibility into your business, it can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at&t's innovative solutions connect machines and people... to keep your internet of things in-sync, in real-time.
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victims. >> first and foremost, i want to ask for a moment of silence for the roanoke journalists that lost their lives. adam ward and alison parker. if we could bow our heads and think about them and their families. thank you. i also want to recognize the veterans in this room. if you could stand and we could recognize you for your incredible service to the greatest country on the face of the earth. [ applause ]. >> appreciate you all. we're living in dangerous times. this president -- i don't ascribe mad motives about him. in fact, i think it is politically counter productive to say that someone is stupid or someone is an idiot or all this stuff we now hear in the political discourse.
it has no relevance to the challenges we face. there are a lot of people struggling right now. a lot of people are hurting. and we're living in a world that is increasingly more dangerous. i think our president, despite his motives, is not leading us in the right direction as it relates to the world we're living in. this is the first anniversary of the first time the president admitted he didn't have a strategy against isis. it was a year and a month ago that the califate was formed and announced. a califate that crossed into two countries where thousands of men and woman are being murdered and raped. where people who don't agree to this radical ideology are subjugated to the most grotesque
imprisonment. our president twice in the last year starting with a year ago has admitted that we don't have a strategy. we're seeing the sequester kick in because of the incredible dysfunction of washington, d.c. gutdi in gutting our military. we have a president that doesn't believe that our leadership in the world matters. we're in a more dangerous world off this. i believe we need to go the opposite direction. i believe we need to restore the cuts that have gutted our military and if they continue will gut the navy, the army, the marines and the air force. we need to reform the department of defense for sure. >> we are going to continue to monitor jeb bush speaking at that town hall this morning norfolk norfolk, virginia. opening it with a moment of silence for the journalists murdered in roanoke virginia.
the republican front runner is pointing to the size of the crowds as evidence that he has strong support from the american people. and after a rally in north carolina on thursday, trump said that includes minorities, minorities that he needs to win the white house. let's listen. >> i've had great friendships in the african-american community. they've never had their job numbers like they do right now, especially african-american youth. it's terrible what's happening. i have great relationships. you're seeing the poll numbers. one of the things that was so nice in south carolina and other places where they break the polls down, i do great in the african-american community. >> but a new quinnipiac poll paints a very different picture. let's take a look at this. when asked if trump cares about people like them, an overwhelming 92% of african-americans said no. just 9% said yes.
just 6% actually said yes. here to discuss jeffrey lord, a trump supporter, also worked in the reagan white house. and ron christie, former special assistant to president bush. i want to show you both another poll. this is another quinnipiac poll. it shows 79% of african-americans have an unfavorable view or opinion of donald trump. where's the disconnect between these two polls and what we're hearing trump say? >> i think one of the things that people are looking for is authenticity. and when you look at donald trump and he says a lot of african-americans support me, it's not whenevther you like me. it's not how is your leadership going to reform the country in general. we've had african-american unemployment above 10% for his entire presidency. the question becomes not so much a reflection on donald trump,
but what is the next president of the united states going to do to make sure that this big, big gap of a lack of job, frankly a lack of sense of future, what are they going to do to address that? >> do you think he is going to address african-american unemployment in this country? >> i think one of the things you heard yesterday that mr. trump is saying is that the tax code is far too complicated, that we need to make it a lot more simple, a lot more user frien y l friendly. i think this administration has not only stifled job growth, but it's also kept out opportunities for african-americans, to say nothing of the politicicies in country that have hindered african-americans from getting a job. >> jeffrey to you. we heard donald trump a few times touting support. and he uses these words specifically, the silent
majori majority. take a listen to what he said about that segment of the population during that south carolina rally. >> so you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. and it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years, as you know. people haven't heard that term in many years. it's sort of interesting as to why. but i think it's a descriptive term. every time i speak i have sold out crowds. every time i speak i have standing ostan standing ovations. >> he also has tweeted that a number of times. in alabama last week, he tweeted we are going to have a wild time in alabama tonight. finally the silent majority is back. do you believe that has any racial under tones? >> absolutely not. i hate to admit this on air but i was a freshman in college in
november of 1969 when richard nixon gave that silent majority speech. i went back and double checked today. richard nixon has a whole section in his memoirs on this. it was 100% about vietnam and the vietnam war. the speech was given in response to a quarter of a million protester who is descended on washington for what we called in the day the october moratorium, october 15th of 1969. the nixon speech was in response to that. it has nothing to do with race whatsoever. >> some historians have said that he used that phrase to appeal to white voters who were tired of the civil rights movement, tired of the antiwar movement, thought it had gone too far. >> yeah. if they're historians, they've got it wrong. he used that specifically about vietnam. the silent majority was about those folks who got up in the morning, went to work, paid their taxes and were not
protesting the war. >> who is the silent majority that you believe donald trump is addressing specifically over and over again? >> they are people of all race, both genders. people who get up in the morning go out and work. they're not protesting. they don't have time to protest. they're raising their kids, living their lives. they pay their mortgages. that's the kind of folks he's talking about. these were the kind of folks that ronald reagan appealed to. >> any racial under tones in that? >> i think jeffrey is right and i think he's wrong. if you look at what president nixon said in that november speech, he did not address race. he was talking specifically about the counter culture of the vietnam war. but i think in your gnonomenclae today, it's a disgruntlement, if you will, among a certain
segment of the population. i think a lot of people look at the term silent majority and think it has racial under tones. >> is that what you hear from donald trump? >> this is classic donald trump. he puts these terms out delibera deliberately. he sure got what he wanted which is a discussion of donald trump talking about a silent majority. >> one of his most prominent supporters is a man named jamal shaw senior, an african-american man's son who was killed by illegals. and he thought nobody was listening to him. he is a part of the silent majority and he is a black man. still to come, florida bracing for a thunderstorm named erika as it turns deadly in the caribbean. when it is expected to hit the
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together, we're building a better california. good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in today for carol costello. thank you very much for being with me this morning. we are talking about a potentially major storm. preparations under way in florida. it now appears tropical storm erika may not intensify into a hurricane. take a look at this river raging uncontrollably, torrential rain now being blamed for the deaths of four people in dominica. meteorologist chad myers joining
us in atlanta with the latest. looks like it's changing course? >> it did change course overnight. the models shifted it to the west. a couple days ago we were coming in here over the bahamas and kind of making a big right-hand turn. and some of the other models were showing cat five storms. because it stayed in the water so long, that's how it got bigger. if this thing travels over the dominican republican and haiti, we're not going to see that intensification into a cat anything, i don't believe, because of so much interaction with land, haiti cuba. not so much turks and caicos because they're pretty flat and don't have a lot of topography. it is still a significant storm,
a 60 miles per hour flood maker. there is the model from this morning. here is the model from last night. let's go back to this morning, back over here into parts of florida. there are models that take it all the way to the gulf of mexico. if that happens, then all bets are off. because you know whats to the gu gulf of mexico when a storm gets there. i would say the dominican republican and haiti are really in line for the next big part of the rain. it flooded there. that was a tremendous flood and a dangerous situation going on there. as the storm moves on towards the dominican republican and haiti that's where the rainfall is going to be in the next 12 to 24 hours as it makes it way toward the u.s. from the keys to the bahamas.
tomorrow marks ten years since hurricane katrina hit and devastated new orleans. former president bush and laura bush are at the same location where the president spoke in fw 2006 for the first anniversary of katrina. martin savage was one of the first reporters on the ground covering the disaster of hurricane katrina. he recalls the heartbreaking appeal of people whose lives had suddenly been ripped apart with nowhere to turn. >> i was in the superdome when katrina struck. i was here at the convention center. this place was far worse. there were thousands and thousands of people days in without any help.
they were desperate. >> we can't take this. >> they begged us to take them with us. they assumed we were leaving. we weren't. we never left the city. when we told that to them, they said you've got to have some way of talking to people. we said, well, we have satellite phones. that's when people began writing down telephone numbers. it was certain if someone knew, that they would come and be rescued. they gave me the numbers and begged that i'd call. and every evening when i got done with work and there were a few free moments i'd start making my way down the list. the first thing i realized was nobody answers their phone anymore. it was voicemail after voicemail. i said, you don't know me, i'm in new orleans. i saw your uncle today in the convention center or your aunt or your sister. they're okay.
one of the people actually wrote specifically what i was supposed to say on the phone call. and it goes, please call my daughter amethyst and tell her her daddy, quote, ain't dead yet. i hung onto that note all these years, because it was a reminder of how desperate people were. >> remarkable reporting. martin savage, thank you very much. i do want to check wall street this morning. the opening bell rang in one of the most wild weeks we have seen on the street in years. the dow jones industrial average off 50 points here at the open. we will see where this day takes us in an incredibly volatile week. . the sole survivor of the deadly attack in roanoke is awake and talking to her family. find out what she had to say after this tragedy, next.
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the sole survivor from wednesday's tragic shooting is now recovering following a second surgery. vicki gardener was being interviewed by alison parker when they were ambushed along with cameraman adam ward. she's lost a kidney and part of her colon as well. i'm joined by the chairman of the smith mountain lake regional chamber of commerce, also the spokesman for the gardener family. thank you for being with me. vicki's husband told our chris cuomo she has a long recovery
period ahead. i'm wondering what that looks like. >> any time you are shot and your internal organs are damaged, as hers were, it's a long road to recovery. we are very optimistic. yesterday was a very good day. she had a second sunrgery in th morning. in the afternoon they were able to take her out of her medically induced coma. she was awake and speaking. an encouraging day for the gardener family. >> what did she say? >> from what i received from the family, she is very lucid and vivid in her memory of what happened. i understand the first communication that she had with them was in regards to alison and adam and her concern and condolences about them, because she understood, i think, when it
happened what had happened. and she remembers that. and she was expressing her concern and regret and sadness over that. she's also learning of the size and the magnitude of this story, which she wasn't obviously aware of, but is grateful for all the support. and she's very -- her and tim and the family are interested in sending out their sympathies to the others who have been affected and involved. >> of course. amazing that's the first thing out of her mouth was her concern for others. the bridgewater plaza, that area where she was being interviewed when all this happened, it reopens today for the first time since the shootings. i know a big memorial has been set up. what's your reaction to that and the opening? >> well, i think over the next few days we're all going to see how great a community smith mountain lake really is. we're excited about the fact
that we will triumph evil with good. tomorrow the chamber of commerce reopens our office which vicki runs on a day to day basis. she is such an exceptional lead their s er that she has a great team. we're reopening tomorrow at 10:00. i'm sure there's going to be a lot of things going on and memorials and so forth the next few days. we're going to walk it one day at a time, confident that we will triumph. >> did you say she's going to be there? >> no, no. vicki is not going to be there, obviously. no. she's got probably at least several more days in the hospital. >> okay. >> so the staff will be there. the staff has come together. we have a tremendous staff at the chamber. tremendous board and executive committee that vicki is really instrumental in mentoring and leading. her work is now going to shine
uprig bright in her time of recovery. >> we have heard from the father of alison parker, the young reporter shot and killed, also the boyfriend, both saying they are turning their sorrow, their grief, their anguish, into a mission and a mission for more gun control, different gun laws in this country. i wonder if vicki has said about that, having experienced herself being shot. >> not to my knowledge. i know that vicki and all of us send our condolences to the families. we admire alison's father and all those that are working and committing themselves to work to do something to make it better. we all want to do something to make it better. i think that's all of our mission. we need to understand and try to discern what it looks like to prevent this kind of stuff. our hearts and prayers and tim's
hearts and prayers go out to them. we admire them greatly. >> please send her our best, troy. >> thank you so much. i will be certain to do that. >> also the pastor there for the family. we're getting new details about the funeral for slain journalist adam ward, the cameraman with a smile as big as you can imagine in every photo i have seen of him. the funeral will be held next tuesday at 11:00 a.m. eastern time at the first baptist church in own oaroanoke. if you are looking for ways to honor the victims go to cnn.com/impact. ♪
you're taking a look at images from moments ago. former president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush visiting the warren easton charter school in new orleans. this is a very significant school because this is a school -- you're looking at live images of them now with some of the students. this is a very significant school because this is the school in new orleans that they visited on the one-year anniversary of hurricane katrina back in 2006. back here today, of course, in remembrance of what happened ten years ago tomorrow when hurricane katrina struck with such devastating force. also this, jury deliberations under way right now in concord, new hampshire, where a prep school graduate is on trial for alleged rape. the accused rapist, owen labrie,
claims his encounter with the then-15-year-old classmate was not rape but consensual, adding that the pair never had sex. that's what he said when he took the stand this week. the prosecution says not only did labrie plan the sexual assault, he took the girl's virginity as a source of pride. boris sanchez has been on this case from the beginning. he is now there in concord, new hampshire, with the latest. boris, the jury still deliberating on this, right? >> reporter: that's right, poppy. the jury now entering their fifth hour of deliberation. the jury's made up of nine men and three women, two men were randomly chosen as alternates yesterday. they're going over nine charges against owen labrie, the most serious ranging from felonious sexual assault and the most minor, a misdemeanor for endangering the welfare of a child. yesterday the jury heard closing arguments in the case. the defense arguing that they never had sex and that the encounter between them was
consensual. again, they brought it to the jury. these messages exchanged between the accuser and owen labrie after the incident that seemingly contradict the accuser's account. they said labrie had a moment of divine inspiration during the encounter and he chose to stop it. meantime, the prosecution arguing this was his plan all along, that he had hached a plan earlier in the school year sharing a list with his friend of senior salutes, girls he wanted to have sexual encounters with. the accuser's name was in all caps on this list. here is a taste of what the defense and prosecution gave as closing arguments yesterday in court. >> if you conclude that she was not being truthful to you, then i submit it taints her entire testimony. she had to make the decision whether it would be her reputation that was going to go into the toilet or owen's, and she took the easier choice. >> and on the last night before
graduation, nothing, not even a girl saying no and holding onto her underwear was going to stop him. she said it with her words. she said it with her actions. and he had sex with her anyway. the state asks you hold him accountable for his decisions and find him guilty of each and every one of the crimes that he's charged with. >> reporter: both sides giving the jury a lot to think about, as you can hear there. there's been a lot of testimony, especially from the defense, arguing that the administration at st. paul's failed the students by not keeping a closer eye on them. the defense repeating over and over that they winked at the senior salute. after this case wraps up, there's a good bet there may be a civil suit against the school as well. poppy? >> boris sanchez reporting for us from concord, new hampshire.
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you're looking at pictures that we're going to pull up in just a moment of jeb bush speaking just moments ago about donald trump at this town hall in norfolk, virginia. let's listen. >> trump supported hillary clinton in 1988 -- in 2008. i supported john mccain. i think most of you all probably supported john mccain. so if he's going to be held to account, i respect the fact that people are supporting him for legitimate reasons of anger about the dysfunction in washington, but when they hear what his views are, the cost of building the whole immigration deal, it's not a conservative proposal he's making. it's going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars, violate civil liberties, challenge our freedom in so many ways.
let's have a debate about the ideas people have as candidates and when they do, i think i'll do a lot better than mr. trump. yes. i'm sorry. >> also checking some top stories for you now. one student is dead following a shooting overnight on the campus of savannah state university in georgia. a lockdown of the campus has been lifted, but the search for the gunman continues. the shooting apparently followed some sort of altercation at the student union. no one else was injured. in the middle east, isis not only destroying ancient sites across syria and iraq, it is also plundering priceless artwork and trying to sell those pieces of art on the black market to finance their terrorism. the fbi sending out an alert to the international art community to be on the lookout for any relics from the region that may have been stolen by isis. the agency warns that possessing looted art even without knowing it is a federal crime. and in china a group of people waiting for a bus were suddenly swallowed up by a giant
sinkhole. one woman clung to pipes to keep from falling -- wow, unbelievable. clung to pipes. you see her there, to keep from falling in. everyone eventually pulled out. no one miraculously seriously hurt. the next hour of "newsroom" begins right now. good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in today for my friend, carol costello. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. thank you so much for being with me this friday. we begin in roanoke, virginia, and a site that will always be haunted by a horrific crime is reopening this morning for business. bridgewater plaza, the site of wednesday' televised murder of two young journalists will reopen today. this as we get a glimpse of the bleak home of their killer. after vester flanagan committed his murders on live television, he texted a friend saying that he had, quote, done something stupid. that is according to documents
seeking a search warrant. took a look at this. these are images we received from inside of flanagan's apartment. his refrigerator covered in photfoe photos all of himself. we're also hearing more from the father and boyfriend of the slain reporter, alison parker. just a few days after the devastating shock, they are launching a self-described crusade for gun control. >> i don't know why this man decided to target the love of my life and adam ward, who was deeply loved by melissa ott, but i can tell you that this is happening over and over and over again, and people that i report for, my community, is telling me this is happening over and over and over again. a critical incident occurs, people who were not supposed to die are killed senselessly. we are all upset. we all then decide we really
need to talk about this and then we forget about it. and then it happens again and we talk about it and we forget about it. i think the tide will turn. there will be a point where we in this society have decided that enough is enough. i hope and pray that this is the event that causes that tide to turn. >> i want to address the members of the committees involved in the virginia general assembly, and i want them to look me in the eye and say, gee, you know, we can't support any kind of other measures with regard to gun control. i want to see them do that. >> cnn's polo sand voluoval is roanoke, virginia, with the latest. >> reporter: i can tell you all of this new flurry of evidence now is answering several questions, but also leading to others. you see this morning investigators are left wondering if it was, in fact, flanagan's initial intention to commit
suicide or was it his final desperate act as police were closing in? >> reporting live in the "newsroom," vester flanagan. >> reporter: this morning evidence of a getaway found inside 41-year-old vester flanagan's rental car. a search warrant revealing flanagan had a wig, a shawl, sunglasses, along with multiple license plates, a to-do list, six glock magazines, and a pistol. but the gun man was unable to evade police shooting himself as though closed in on him on the side of a virginia highway. thtion video of his one-bedroom apartment obtained by nbc. you can see the refrigerator covered with photos of himself. possible warning signs of the anger fueling his murderous attack on adam ward and alison parker live on air started surfacing over a decade ago. in 2000 he was fired from a station in northern florida. >> i was concerned about just his mental status and whether he needed counseling. >> reporter: then in 2013 he caused a disturbing scene after
being fired from wdbg lashing out at co-workers including victim adam ward. >> on the way out he handed a wooden cross to the news director and he said you'll need this. >> reporter: prior to being let go, internal documents say co-workers say he made them feel threatened and the station's manager said flanagan was asked to seek mental health assistance. >> i'm not saying let's take away guns. i'm just saying let's make it harder for people with mental issues. >> reporter: in an interview with "new day's" chris cuomo, parker's father says gun regulations have to change. >> there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to have sensible laws so that crazy people can't get guns. >> reporter: a father's crusade for stricter gun laws. ♪ >> reporter: met with a rally against gun violence at the vigil in front of wdbg's station
thursday night. despite all of this new information that is surfacing with respect to the killer, it seems, poppy, that really most of the people in this community, if not all the people in this community, really want to focus mainly on the victims here, and if you look behind me, you will actually see several mylar balloons and a makeshift memorial that's expected to only grow. and as for the folks at wdbg, they are expecting a visit from the governor, he is expected to meet with station management and some of the news team that continue working through the tears to honor their fallen colleagues. >> they have been just remarkable, somehow holding it together to deliver the news to the community as they need it, despite losing their beloved colleagues. polo, thank you very much. well, the families and the co-workers of the victims say they have received an outpouring of compassion from around the world this week. but for the father of the slain
reporter, alison parker, there may be no support more meaningful than this, hearing from other fathers who lost children to gun violence. one man lost his 24-year-old daughter in the massacre inside the aurora movie theater shooting. the other father mourning the murder of his son in a shooting spree near the campus of the university of california at santa barbara. last night our don lemon brought them together to discuss their shared grief and their resolve. >> if we don't talk about our children and if we don't put a human face on these tragedies, then it's all about the shooter and all about the shooter's message, and what gets lost in the conversation is the real cost to people like us. you know, and that the rest of the country shouldn't wait until it happens to their kids. >> we didn't get involved right away after aurora, but we wished
we had gotten involved after columbine, maybe it would have saved our daughter, i don't know. but after sandy hook, we had to get involved. we had no choice. we had to do something for our daughter, and we have. we've got some laws passed in washington, and we got background checks there. they've been passed in oregon now. so we're taking a page out of the nra playbook and we're going after state by state. >> second amendment was introduced and passed when we were using muskets. you know, and the army and the militia had the same weaponry and they couldn't hit each other 100 yards away. so it's -- you know, again, i'm not advocating let's take everybody's guns away. let's just keep them out of the hands of crazy people. >> well, 74% of the nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales, and yet we can't get a vote in congress
to pass universal background checks on gun sales. it's proven in states that have universal background checks, there's fewer domestic violence homicides, fewer police officers shot and killed. background checks have been shown to -- they're not 100% solution, no solution is 100%. seat belts in cars do not save 100% of the people in traffic accidents, but that's not a good argument to say we shouldn't wear seat belts. seat belts make a significant difference. no one is here to say that universal background checks will stop every act of gun violence, but we need to do better in this country. >> as you see, three fathers going through unbelievable grief coming together there. i want to bring in jim gilmore, he is with me a former governor of virginia. he's among the gop contenders running for president. he is also on the nra's board of directors. thank you for being with me, governor. >> thank you, poppy. >> the father of alison parker, you just heard him there.
one of the victims of wednesday's shooting. he says he's for the second amendment, but he spoke specifically to you and other policymakers saying we need politicians to be braver and something needs to change. do you agree with him that something needs to change? >> well, i think standing up for the constitution is an act of bravery, poppy. first of all, i want to express sympathy to this father, to this boyfriend. i think it's a terrible tragedy, but it does need to be remembered that we in virginia have background checks. this fellow, this criminal, went through a background check. so nibbling away at the second amendment rights of all americans is not the solution to this problem at all. we have to stand for the rights of the constitution. >> well, he didn't say take away their second amendment rights. that's not what he said. >> no, he didn't. he talked about nibbling away inch by inch, and i'm sorry for his loss but we can't allow the criminal activity of a person like flanagan to be leveraged into this diminution of our
rights under the constitution and under the second amendment. so that's the problem we've got. the assertion here is somehow a background check will solve everything. you have to blame the perpetrator. you have to find out if a person is mentally unstable and begin to get that person under some type of control. you know, they may not appear to be that way, but family members and other people will know if a person is unstable and potentially dangerous. >> so here is an example. the fbi background check policy, the national policy now is three days for a background check to clear. we've seen instances where they don't clear, where there's some confusion, someone is allowed to buy a gun. let me get your reaction. in an interview with "the huffington post," senator chris murphy had this to say about congress. he said, congress' silence in the face of this rash of mass shootings has become complicity. we are essentially sending a message ever quiet endorsement of these murders. what is your reaction to that? >> my reaction is this, before
the person was even caught yesterday, the left wing in this country was trying to reduce our rights under the second amendment. governor mcauliffe was out there calling for gun control. hillary clinton, who is basically the sponsor for governor mcauliffe was calling for gun control. the president was calling for gun control. gun control is not the answer. you're now diverting attention away from the real problem. >> then what is the answer? >> the real answer at this point is more community-based mental health which is what i attempted to do as governor. but the main thing we have to do is be resolute about standing for the rights of all americans, even in the face of criminal conduct that would create an excuse for diminishing those rights and i want to say one more thing to you, poppy. i have been the candidate for president of the united states which has stood up to donald trump when he's tried to attack us on the 14th amendment. he wants to take away birth right citizenship in this country, so i have stood against that. and i want to say to you right now, i want to just issue a challenge to donald trump. i will debate him -- i'm challenging him right now to a
debate on the issue of the 14th amendment and standing for that and i'm on this show today to stand for the 2nd amendment. as a conservative i stand for the constitution and we're going to resolutely stand for that and we're not going to allow either donald trump trying to attack an insular minority like latinos or this criminal who has done this terrible tragedy. we're not going to allow these things to be leveraged by the american left wing in the elimination of american civil rights under the constitution. >> all right. you bring up community mental health, and i think across the board so the many people agree that more needs to be done on the mental health side. let me read you this quote from an op-ed in "the new york times" by nicholas chrissoff. he writes in part, we should address gun deaths as a public health crisis. to protect the public, we regulate toys and mutual funds, ladders and swimming pools. shouldn't we regulate guns as seriously as we regulate toys? does he have a point? >> no. he's absolutely going in the
wrong direction and continuing this approach of blaming the gun instead of blaming the criminal. yes, we need to regulate. we need to regulate criminals. we need to get criminals off the street whether illegal aliens or whether they're people like this that are going to use any instrumentality. a very reliable source of news the other day just pointed out this past sunday that a disturbed young man killed his father with a knife. nobody is calling for knife control, and we shouldn't be approaching gun control. it is a distraction to the problem. it will not eliminate the problem. criminals do not obey the law. they do not obey record checks. in this particular case the criminal did obey a record check. >> i want to point you to this one pew study. across party affiliations here, this pew study just in july of this year, what it found is the vast majority of americans, i think we can show it here, 79% of americans right now favor laws preventing mentally ill from owning guns.
does that signal to you that americans want new laws on that front? >> yes, but it also is not the answer. we have laws in virginia that says that a mentally ill person is not entitled to possess a firearm. so what's really going on here -- and we have background checks. all the things that these bereaved fathers are calling for because they have lost out of personal loss which i'm very sympathetic to is not the answer. it is not the direction. we need, instead, to begin to focus on criminals, and this man was a criminal. we need to be strong and i'm a former prosecutor, former attorney general, we need to be strong on criminal justice, and we need to be strong in terms of mental health focusing and trying to get people under control who are dangerous. these are the answers. we've already demonstrated with this case that more gun control is not going to solve all of these problems. so i'm speaking today because i want to be a voice for the freedoms and liberties of the american people both on the second amendment and on the 14th
amendment. i have support birth right citizenship in this country. donald trump is wrong. i challenge him to face me on that matter. but also on the 2nd amendment we simply can't be stampeded by a criminal act like this as dreadful as it is into affecting the lives and liberties of all the american people and i stand for the constitution. >> former governor jim gilmore of virginia. i thank you for coming on the program, sir. >> thank you, poppy. still to come, hillary clinton speaks to the democratic national committee in just hours, but joe biden supporters are asking their members to, quote, keep an open mind. we are live from the dnc in minneapolis next. no sixth grader's ever sat with the eighth grade girls. but your jansport backpack is
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key group of potential supporters, the dnc. she's set to address the dnc in minneapolis. that's where we find our cnn correspondent joe johns. >> reporter: good morning, poppy, eight democratic candidates are expected to speak here. they're going to alphabetical order. hillary rodham clinton is expected around noon. one person who will not be here is vice president joe biden. he is still trying to figure out if he's going to run for president. however, some of his most fervent supporters are here, and they're making their presence felt. they're holding discreet meetings, the draft biden effort is, to try to tell dnc members as well as superdelegates to the convention that they ought to keep an open mind. it's still too early to anoint a front-runner in the race. that, of course, is a reference to hillary clinton. these are small meetings, 15 to
30 people. they last about an hour. the general message, of course, is try to hold your horses until joe biden decides to get back -- decides to get into the race. >> the quote, right, joe johns, from the draft biden camp was keep an open mind. is that right? >> reporter: yeah, that's the bottom line. it's keep an open mind, make sure that you don't jump the guns here until joe biden decides what he's going to do. it's also a little bit informational, too, if you will. they want to tell people who joe biden is doing over the next several weeks, he's going to have a very busy schedule trying to push the president's proposal on iran as well as meetings with the pope who is coming to the united states, so he has a very full plate and the estimate here among the draft biden movement is that he'll make a decision around the first week of october. >> all right. we'll be watching. joe johns in minneapolis for us, thank you. you heard it, hillary clinton
speaking just around noon there. joining me now, andy smith, from the university of new hampshire survey center and author. thanks for being with me, andy. >> good morning, poppy. >> let's start with new hampshire aptly so. a recent boston herald/franklin pierce poll shows bernie sanders leads new hampshire. he had been trailing her by nearly 40 percentage points in march. that is a sharp reversal. why? >> i think there are a couple things going on. first off, there is among democrats a growing sense of dissatisfaction with hillary clinton and also historically in new hampshire, 35% to 45% of the democratic electorate here favors the nonestablishment candidate. this goes back to gene mccarthy in 1968 but more recently with
bill bradley in 2000, howard dean in 2004, even barack obama in 2008. so it's not surprising there are a blacc oc of democrats that ar looking for someone other than the mainstream establishment candidate. that said, sanders has been doing better in part because he's been campaigning more effectively than clinton. clinton has not been in the state as much as sanders. she certainly hasn't been able to draw the crowds sanders has but it's critical to remember it is august. we have seen these sorts of things happen time and time again where a candidate will bump up in the summer or the fall but their support dissipates as voters actually decide -- start to decide who they're going to vote for and who they consider to be best for their party in november. >> maybe the voters aren't paying attention to every single tiny detail just yet like we in the press are. maybe they're taking their time -- >> i would say even in new
hampshire they aren't paying attention. >> it's a very important point. let me ask you this, i thought it was very interesting to hear from hillary clinton this week completely pivoting on the e-mails, changing her tone, in her own words, quote, taking responsibility for her use of personal e-mail at the state department, even former michigan governor jennifer granholm came in and said this is the pivot that she needed to make. how does that change the game? >> well, it will be a long time to see the impact of that, but i think that it's a necessary thing for her to do. with any sort of a political scandal or political problem like this, the first thing you have to do is take ownership of the issue and then start to control the message that comes out about that issue, and she has not been doing that to date. it may be a little bit late for her to be able to take that control back because we're seeing this issue now in the hands of the justice department, the fbi, and certainly congressional committees which will continue to push this for
the next several months. so it's not going to go away that quickly. >> and we do point out one of the things that stood out a lot in the quinnipiac poll that came out this week is hillary clinton's sort of slumping numbers, right, but at the same time to be fair here, she is still leading by a pretty big margin in, you know, within the candidates thus far. are we making much ado about nothing here? >> well, she is leading in national polls but she's been very close with sanders in new hampshire and actually now trailing in a couple polls in new hampshire. i would pay more attention to the early state polls where there's an actual campaign going on than in the national polls. the national polls tend to lag the early state polls by several -- by a week or two weeks, so i think that we are not making too much of it in that clinton has some serious problems, but polling right now is no way indicative of what voters will do in february or when the actual votes start to be counted. >> all right.
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good morning, everyone. 10:30 a.m. eastern this friday morning. i'm poppy harlow in for my friend, carol costello. thank you so much for being with me. we are continuing to follow the tragic murder of two virginia journalists live on the air. a murder that has reignited the debate over gun control in this country. but as the cover of the new york daily news this morning reminds us, it has happened so many times before. no major action has been taken
by our lawmakers. i want to bring in senator chris murphy. he's a democrat from connecticut. thank you for being with me, senator. >> thank you for having me. >> is the daily news cover right? will this outrage quickly die down or will change happen? >> i think change is going to happen. i just don't think that democracy can work with when you have 90% of the american public that want changes in our gun laws and congress not responding. it may take a series of elections before we get there, but i think there's clear momentum towards a comprehensive look at how we reduce violence, and the fact of the matter is that it has to be comprehensive. you can't just change our gun laws. yes, we should have these dangerous weapons off the street, criminals shouldn't get gun, but we also have a broken mental health system and that deserves fixing as well and we shouldn't wait to do all of it at one time. if we can't get the gun laws change because of the nra control of congress right now
then let's fix the mental health system. we should be starting this process now because it's an absolute stain on this nation that there have been more mass shootings this year than there have been days in the year. we shouldn't accept that in congress. >> you said, senator, in an interview with "the huffington post" this morning, congress' silence in the face of this rash of mass shootings has become complicity. we are essentially sending a message ever quiet endorsements to these murders. who are you talking about in congress? >> i'm talking about the entirety of congress, especially those that have stood in the way of common sense gun measures like expanded background checks or reforms to our mental health system. the fact is when our leadership in congress stands up and says we can't do anything, they are absolutely wrong, and i believe that we have become complicity in these murders because people listen to highest levels of
government and when we say nothing about it, when we don't even attempt to change the laws to try to stop this mass slaughter, then people get some signal that it's okay so settle their grievances or to deal with their illness through gun violence. i just don't accept we can do nothing and i'm speaking directly to the republican leadership of the house and the senate. they should be bringing anti-gun violence bills to the floor that can get consensus votes this fall or the congress is complicit in these murders. >> here is what former governor jim gilmore told me on the program earlier today. he said to me that what he needs to change, what he wants to change is more community mental health services. he also said this. listen. >> person was even caught yesterday. the left wing in this country was trying to reduce our rights under the second amendment. governor mcauliffe was out there calling for gun control. hillary clinton, who is basically the sponsor for
governor mcauliffe, was calling for gun control. the president was calling for gun control. gun control is not the answer. you're now diverting attention away from the real problem. >> then what is the -- i went on to say what is the answer and he said community-based mental health services and more of that. what is the answer in your mind, senator? >> well, let's be honest about what the data shows. we don't have any more mental illness in the united states than any other country in the world has, and yet we have five times the rate of gun violence, so it can't be that mental illness is the only answer. the reality is that the data shows us that in countries and communities that have more guns, especially have more guns in the hands of criminals, especially have more dangerous assault weapons out on the streets, there's more gun violence. more guns equals more gun violence. now, i don't want to stop law-abiding citizens from being able to own guns, but the fact is that the left wing of this
country, as mr. gilmore says, i guess is 90% of the country because that's the number of americans that support something like expanded background checks. so you just can't throw this whole problem on the backs of the mental health system and you also have to recognize you're feeding the stigma. the fact is that there's no inherent connection between mental illness and violence, and that kind of talk should stop. >> what about this shooting and the fact that this gunman as far as we know right now did not have any sort of documented history of mental illness. obviously something was completely wrong with him. he idolized other mass shooters but what do you do about this situation, senator? >> well, listen, i don't think you can craft a legislative solution to every single incident of violence in this country, and so i don't think that we should expect that anything that we're going to enact in washington is going to stop shootings, but there are plenty of instances, including
the connecticut shooting and the south carolina shooting in which better gun laws could have made a difference. in south carolina that guy got a gun because of the loophole in the background checks law that allowed the retailer to give him a gun despite the fact he hadn't passed the background check, and this whole culture of mass violence in which congress does nothing i think sends a message to a lot of these individuals who are becoming unhinged in their mind that it's okay to go out and commit these murders because no one seems to be doing anything to stop it, and so why should i think any differently than everybody else that i see on the news carrying out this kind of violence. there's no one legislative solution, but there are changes that will make a difference, and congress acting, just the action of congress in any way, shape, or form will have a chilling effect on this trend. >> senator chris murphy of connecticut. appreciate you joining me this morning, sir. >> thanks, poppy.
>> thank you. two years ago the shooter vester flanagan caused a scene after being fired from wdbj lashing out at co-workers, including one of his victims, adam ward. internal documents showing co-workers complained he made them feel threatened and, quote, extremely uncomfortable. the station's manager, jeff marks, says he was asked to seek mental health assistance adding during a press conference yesterday, quote, by and large, we get great employees here. one is going to slip through the cracks. let's talk about the bigger picture here about employers and their legal responsibilities when they have employees like this. danny cevallos with me to talk about that. i mean, you focus on among other things employment law. what -- this station had him seek anger management help, fired him, called the police when he blew up when he was fired, what more can employers do? >> employers in a way are darned if they do and darned if they don't. they face a charge of negligent representation or negligent reference if they give some
information to a new employer that is false or misleading, and at the same time if they say something disparaging about an employee, they could be sued for defamation. now, each of these would be defensible cases, and the numbers show that these defamation cases by disgruntled employees are not usually that successful statistically, but companies, people, we don't like to be sued and we don't like to have to defend that. so what has happened as a result is that employers have taken the middle road, and that middle road is say nothing, say nothing at all. don't say a word. >> isn't that negligent? >> well, in a way if there's no affirmative duty to say or not say, saying nothing may be the safest thing because you don't run the risk of defaming someone by saying something nasty and at the same time the law essentially says you can negligently reference an employee if you say something knowingly misleading. if i say nothing at all, i haven't said anything knowingly misleading. >> you're protecting yourself but not helping society.
>> right. and in the last decade or so, individual states have enacted laws attempting to protect employers when they provide this information. but it still doesn't change the fact that anybody can sue anybody at any time, and if you're a cost conscious company, you're going to make a business decision and say, well, you know what? we'd rather not go through the trouble. let's just say nothing at all about bob after he leaves our employ. >> danny cevallos, important perspective. still to come, new orleans schools have rebounded in the ten years since hurricane katrina but at what cost to the city's unique character? we'll discuss next.
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journey and sky. >> last year journey won top reader award. sky is a wonder woman. she can do anything, and she tries everything because they give them that courage. >> reporter: for melissa bee, innovation and creativity is what her son tristan needed. >> i'm thrilled we were able to choose the type of school that would be taylilored to my stude. >> reporter: the student body is 50/50 black and white from affluent and disadvantaged families. >> we believe bringing kids together from diverse backgrounds is a great way to increase equity, to increase empathy, and to catalyze creativity. >> reporter: when hurricane katrina hit in august of 2005, the public schools of new orleans were considered among the worst in the country. the storm damaged and destroyed most of those schools, including ones like this, abandoned for ten years. the state of louisiana seized more than 100 schools, fired
about 7,500 teachers, and turned the buildings over to independent school operators or charters. >> there was a narrative that was created that somehow everything and everyone here was broken. >> reporter: but some community leaders say this experiment has destroyed community schooling and has disproportionately benefited whites over blacks. >> this brand of reform that has been employed in new orleans and then touted across the nation as some kind of miracle is simply not working. >> reporter: but a study by tulane university shows under the charter school system, student achievement is up. with 63% of students passing state assessment tests in 2014. a 30% increase since 2005. and graduation rates are up from 56% to 73%. >> could everybody do that? >> reporter: initially charter schools were able to recruit the most desirable students. now parents can rank their
school choices and go through a centralized lottery process. >> we have no influence over who attends. >> reporter: parents say when a spot unexpectedly opens up at a good school, they run. >> when we got in, there were two spots left, and i said thank you, lord. this one is for my baby. >> reporter: but some students do not get any of their choices leaving some parents to question whether the program really works. >> i don't know that we're succeeding necessarily in that the same sort of quality education is available for everyone. >> reporter: ten years now after the storm. >> we've gone from a school district that was an "f" to a school district that's about at a "c" level. >> how was your first day? >> reporter: new orleans is still trying and won't stop until they get that "a." >> great! >> reporter: around the bnd the school reform continues. you have those fired teachers,
7,500 or so who were fired largely african-american, largely female and older who are now taking their case, want their jobs back, taking that case now to the u.s. supreme court. >> amazing piece, suzanne. thank you for tracking it. suzanne will be in new orleans for us throughout the weekend marking the ten-year anniversary of hurricane katrina. still to come, the death toll from tropical storm erika is climbing. could florida take a direct hit? we'll have that next. ugh! heartburn!
state of emergency today as tropical storm erika inches closer and closer to the sunshine state, and for good reason. take a look at this, havoc, absolute havoc it is wreaking in the caribbean. this river raging uncontrollable. torrential rain there killing 12 people in dominica, more than 20 are missing. cnn meteorologist chad myers live for us in the severe "weather center" with more. what is it looking like? is it going to hit florida directly? >> well, that's the center of the cone. you know, poppy, i tell you all the time, i tell everybody, not just you, please don't focus on the center of the cone, focus on how wide the cone can be. even at 72 hours, the center of the circulation can be anywhere from the bahamas west to the dry tortugas. this is still a spread out storm because the storm is not going what it was supposed to do. it was supposed to be north of puerto rico, north of the dr by now. that didn't happen. we're about 300 miles farther to the south than it was supposed to be, so what happens now? well, that just tells me the computer models aren't acting
that well or this computer's model doesn't like the storm or the storm doesn't believe in computers. i don't know. that's what you got. for later on this afternoon i think it's still going to move to the south of the dr, make heavy rain for punta qana and parts of haiti. that will be the problem here. as the storm system is still focused to go over florida. here is what the models were last night. over the bahamas and missing florida altogether. now this morning they are back and over florida. this is the latest map, latest models we have. we'll keep watching them for you. it's like building a model car. it's supposed to look like the car but sometimes you get too much glue on the windshield, then the wheels fall off. so models aren't always what they're supposed to be. >> we never blame you guys. we never blame you guys. we know you are trying your hardest but we'll keep a close eye on this. chad, thank you, my friend. still to come, a major surprise for an officer when he finds out just who is behind the wheel of his car. we'll tell you next. if you haven't heard about the latest sale
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all right. getting a check of your top stories. we've just learned the ceo of hacked infidelity website ashley madison is stepping down. that happens immediately. just a short time ago avid life media, the parent company of ashley madison, released a staget saying this change is in the best interest of the company and allows us to continue to provide support to our members and dedicated employees. the website hack revealed the extremely personal details of its clients. there are currently several lawsuits against the website by former clients. take a look at this, this is dashcam video out of minnesota. the officer trailing this erratic driver is about to get a major surprise because, guess what? it's an 8-year-old boy behind the wheel of the car. police say that boy drove for nearly 20 miles wearing his pajamas before pulling into a
driveway. in the car with him two of his younger foster siblings. all of the kids are okay. the officer drove them home. thank you so much for being with me today. i'm poppy harlow. carol costello is back in the chair monday morning. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" begins right now. two of their own gunned down on live tv. >> and tropical storm erika packing a major punch in the caribbean. a new forecast is just in. is florida in her path? >> and it has been ten years since this, the levees breaking, parts of new orleans under water. ahead this hour, a closer look at the recovery from hurricane katrina. helhello, i'm john berman.