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catch the special report, murder on cape cod, tonight at 9:00 eastern. thank you so much for watching. i'm brianna keilar sitting in for wolf blitzer here in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" beginning right now. tonight, the manhunt widens. the search for the three men suspected of shooting and killing an illinois police officer expanding tonight. how did they escape? there's a second video of the shooting death of a texas man by police. does the video answer whether the man was surrendering or threatening to attack? donald trump telling jeb bush to set an example by speaking english in the u.s. what's behind their vicious back and forth battles and who is winning? let's go "outfront."
good evening. i'm pamela brown in for erin burnett. the manhunt expands. 100 investigators, more than 40 search dogs, helicopters and multiple law enforcement agencies are in a search for two white men and one black man. their races were the only description officer gliniewicz gave dispatch before he was killed. now officers across the region volunteering to join the manhunt on their own time. as investigators follow up on more than 100 tips from the public, police say that's the most important element in their search. >> as always, we're relying on the public. all it takes is one tip or good lead to break a case wide open. >> this as we are learning details about the last moments of officer gliniewicz's life. just weeks from retirement was
driving to work when he pulled over to pursue three men on foot. he called headquarters to say he spotted three suspicious people. just 17 minutes later, his fellow officers found him dead. right now, take a look. we're looking at live pictures of a vigil being held for officer gliniewicz not far from where he was killed. ryan young is at that vigil tonight. ryan, where do things stand with the investigation and with this manhunt? >> reporter: we know all those people are standing behind us who are supporting this family. we know more than 100 investigators out there searching. we talked to several people today who told us they want to entense p enten intensify the search. they might have found video out there that they are analyzing. if you look at the crowd, look at it as it is started. you can see hundreds of people who gathered here who wanted to pay their respects to this officer. the search for three accused cop
killers is shifting and expanding. dozens of officers and k-9 units no longer going door to door. >> the perimeter was pulled at approximately 10:30 as the individuals were not located within that perimeter after being extensively checked. >> reporter: now searching by boat and by air, the view of fox lake and the complexity of the search area becoming a bit clearer. we remain outside the two-mile no-fly zone. >> you get a great idea how this community is a mix. you have commercial areas. you have residential areas. you have the marsh and lakes. there are plenty of places to hide. a lot of homes against the woods. if you were trying to hide, there are places for to you sneak into. >> reporter: investigators hunting for the killer killers. the 30-year veteran was on his way to work tuesday morning when he spotted three suspicious men, two white and one black and
decided to stop and investigate. >> fif you are driving down a roadway that has nothing but open fields, abandoned businesses and you see three individuals there that have no reason for being there, it would be a fundamental police procedure to stop and at least question them as to why they are there. >> reporter: he radios for backup and pursued the suspects on foot. dispatch reveals gliniewicz was shot by the time other officers arrived. >> assist officer down. the two subjects were male white and male black running towards the swamp. officer w officer wasn't answering. >> reporter: dozens of officers were on the scene. his killers had vanished. >> responding to officer down. >> reporter: a community on edge as it mourns a beloved officer,
husband and father of four. >> not only did fox lake lose a family member, i lost a very dear friend. >> reporter: you can see the impact right now. people have pulled up in boats. this is a boating community. so many people will come back to homes that they haven't been in for a long time. you can see how neighbors have pretty much stuck together. the mayor is actually on stage right now talking about a man he considered a friend, an officer who he said gave back to this community. in fact, we know the widow is out here in the crowd right now with her four sons. obviously, this is a touching memorial for him. you heard they said, we love you, joe. this is a tough moment for this community. they are coming together. we see officers from around the state here as well. >> an incredible outpouring. to think he was just weeks away from retiring. ryan young, thank you so much.
right now, investigators processing the evidence collected at the crime scene looking for any clues to help identify the suspected killers. d what are police saying about what they have been able to recover from the crime scene? >> reporter: pamela, what we know is that there are four distinct areas that authorities hope will provide evidence to help them identify lieutenant gliniewicz's killer or killers. the first is the crime scene. that was processed yesterday. evidence technicians going through and carefully looking for dna and finger prints. anything that could potentially give them an indication of who turned and fired on this police officer. the second, the autopsy itself. usually autopsies will yield or provide some sort of forensic evidence that could potentially be helpful. you have got leads, a lot of leads that are pouring in. many of them on social media. the commander of the major crimes task force says all it
takes is the one lead to break this case wide open. if these three men are part of some criminal underworld, you better believe that authorities are putting a lot of pressure right now on any source to tell what they know or what they are hearing if, in fact, these men were part of all of that. the fourth area, video. there's a lot of video. you have video from businesses, from gas stations as well as home security. so authorities are looking at all of that. you know, this is so personal to so many of the investigators that are there. many knew this lieutenant. they say he is the kind of guy that he had no problem knowing that he was retiring still a true professional chasing after these three individuals thinking that perhaps they were involved in some sort of suspicious activity. they are really shaking the leaves on this one. >> chasing after them on his way to work. we appreciate it. "outfront," john cuff and
ron husko. john, we just heard that they are pouring over video, tips coming in. yet all authorities have said about these three suspects is really their race, two white men, one black man. at the same time, they're saying we are relying on the public. the fact they haven't released more information, does that tell you they don't have anything more on them in. >> not really. it's a decision they're making on the strategy on the investigation. as far as the race, i mean, if the people -- the public can call in anything suspicious, anything anybody that might have fit that bill, two white and a black male. maybe they saw them yesterday or the day before or they were acting suspicious. i wouldn't read too much into that. protect the integrity in the investigation. >> protect the integrity. wouldn't it be helpful for them, more than 24 hours after this killing, to have the public come
in and help them identify these three men? >> they are looking for the public to help them. the public is frequently the best source of tips and clues on a case like this. john is right, to protect the integrity of the investigation, sometimes you want to guard, particularly the details of how this officer was shot, where he was shot, to make sure that tipsters are giving you good information and they're not giving you misleading information to see how it lines up. >> you believe they could know the identities, but they're holding that information back for reasons like that? >> right. i think this could go one of two ways. one is they have hot leads pointing them to the identity and they're setting up surveillance. they're on surveillance. or the other end of it could be just that 17-minute gap before other responders got there and identified the downed officer as a victim, that gives these three
people plenty of time to get out of the area, to change clothes, to be long gone. and maybe they don't have very much information at all. >> presumably, they didn't have an escape plan assuming this happened off the cuff. 17 minutes, they could be long gone. that's enough to get out of the two-mile radius where they set up the manhunt. >> that's a good point. planned or unplanned. this thing doesn't appear it was a planned thing. the officer pulled up on them. so after the shooting, after the incident, they scrambled. the first thing on any manhunt, you have to identify who you are looking for. that's what's going on right now in this investigation. what you saw was the grid search that was going on. now you have -- you had the investigation going on which includes not only the crime scene, evidence that will be developed at the crime scene but
videotapes and so on at nearby commercial establishments. you have three suspects. these people talk. they talk to one another. it's fair to say speculate, they may have talked to someone else. loose lips sink ships. you got sources out here that may know something. that's the importance of this 400-plus law enforcement canvassing the areas to develop information and develop that source and see what shakes out of the trees. >> also, ron, cell towers i imagine are very important, too. we know there were a number in that area, one near the crime scene. how will that help investigators identify these gunmen? >> right. law enforcement will absolutely be doing what's known as a cell tower dump to try to pull numbers and identifiers off of those towers and find out who was in the area, what subscriber information is there and walking back those who were legitimately
in the area, that there's a good reason for them to have been there during this -- the key times and those that might have been passing through or fled after and peeling those layers back to understand who was there, who wasn't there. you know, there's another important aspect of this. there are three people that are -- that law enforcement are looking for. that's an opportunity for law enforcement to divide and concur. it's an opportunity for those who did not pull the trigger on this officer to come forward and make their best deal right now. they're looking for the first person in the door. >> we know tonight the investigation, the search expanding. john, ron, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> happy to be with you. tonight, police were on the scene of the deadly shooting within minutes. soon hundreds more were on the hunt. how did these suspects escape? questions about the death of a texas man shot by police. some say he was surrendering. what does a second video reveal
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later? first possibility, in the area. remember, this is a community bounded on several sides by water. there are a lot of houses, plenty of places where they might hide whether they stay together or split up. second possibility, maybe they obtained a vehicle and drove out. now, if it was a boat, for example, they have a problem -- they don't have a problem. if you get on a boat, you can move through all sorts of lakes and rivers up here, about 500 miles of coastline, ten different lakes. it's a heavily trafficked area by recreational boaters. one boat more or less would not stand out. if it's a matter of them driving a car, that's a different matter. look at this. yeah, milwaukee is up here, about an hour and a half away. chicago, down here, about an hour and a half away. major metropolitan areas in which they could hide out. and links to major highways all through here that would lead to plenty of other smaller places that they could easily join in.
pam, all sorts of ways they could get out moving along the ground. >> it's been more than 24 hours since the shooting. how far do you think they could have gotten? >> reporter: if they went to an airplane, then you are talking about really far. look at this. these are three major airports in this area. there are other smaller air strips. here is a challenge, something they have to bear in mind that some of your guests have been hinting at here when you talk about tracking. if you try to buy something like this or rent a car or do something and you don't have the right i.d. or a lot of cash, you are almost certainly going to have to use a credit card. there's some kind of tracking about where you were. if you drive on one of the roads and you go through any kind of a toll road or a metering device, there's a chance there will be a photograph of your vehicle and license plate. if you go to a restaurant, if you go to a bank, a store, anything where you make any kind of a purchase, there's a chance you are captured on security camera.
all of that forms a net around all of those means of transportation. that complicates the idea of fleeing, even though you might think they could get in a car and go. >> i'm sure investigators looking at everything. tom foreman, thank you so much. a big question, what will officials have to do to track down the suspects? if other recent man hhunts are guide, it won't be easy. >> reporter: trying to solve a case without a clear description of culprits where three men are wanted for the shooting of officer joe gliniewicz is one of the toughest parts of detective work. >> once that went away, they don't have anything to go on. >> reporter: history shows even when clues are left behind, the search can be challenging. take the case of christopher dor dorner, a former police officer who killed two police officers in february 2013. he left behind a manifesto
declaring war on police. it took several days but eventually searchers spotted a man matching his description committing a carjacking. after a chase, he died in a standoff with police at a remote mountain cabin. it took longer to find eric frein, the man who police say kill eed a pennsylvania state trooper. it was unclear who fired the fatal shots, but police identified frein after finding his jeep in a wooded area. it took nearly seven weeks to find him, hiding at this abandoned hangar. he was taken into custody and has pleaded not guilty. most recently, the massive manhunt for two escaped inmates from the clinton correctional facility in upstate new york. searchers knew exactly who they were looking for, richard matt and david sweat. yet it still took more than three weeks before one was killed, the other captured. in the case of fox lake, two
factors could end up being key to catching their suspects. >> luck and public. it's a random cop who happens to be doing a patrol and roll up on somebody and then often it's just the public. the public says, you know, i think i saw something that night. >> reporter: another factor that could help find the killer, sources. law enforcement will lean on everyone they know in the criminal community for leads. searching for these types of suspects takes on special significance tore lfor law enforcement. it's one of their own. it's personal. "outfront" tonight, a former nypd detective joe j a/k/aajack. today they say they're expanding the search. should they have started out wider and then worked third way in instead? >> it might look that way. what happens is they are dealing with a small amount of information. they cast their net as far as
they thought it could be within the general area. it's a marshy area. maybe they couldn't have gotten so far. >> it pak does make you wonder the officer was found 17 minutes after. it's enough time to get out of the radius. it has been nearly 36 hours since the shooting. now that the first crucial day is over, how much harder from here on out will it be to capture the suspect ss? >> the long ter er it goes, the ter will be. they're not going to stop until they find something. hopefully, they can find something discarded that can lead them to who the killers were. >> we were watching the piece about all these other manhunts. what lessons can be learned from past manhunts like one recently, the prison break in upstate new york? >> one thing that law enforcement has learned is that not everybody is on the ground. they were hiding in tree stands. it's a vacation spot.
you have to be able to look for that. >> is there anything else that can be learned from past manhunts? >> we might find out information about break-ins and stuff like that which might help us lead to a dna hit that help us out and solve this case. >> thank you so much. "outfront" next, new video of a shooting by shoeriff's deputies in texas. did the suspect have his hands up in surrender or was he threatening police. donald trump telling jeb bush he should set an example by speaking english in the u.s. has trump finally gone too far? while every business is unique,
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breaking news. new details on the second video of the deadly shooting of a man by sheriff's deputies. a source telling cnn that this new video, which has not been released to the public, shows the suspect charging at officers with a knife, shoving chairs at them and acting wildly aggressive. the initial video released publically appears to show flores with his hands up when
deputies fired. we have to warn our viewers, some of the video is disturbing. ed? >> reporter: the video has been called disturbing and troubling. gilbert flores is seen moving around the front yard of a house for roughly 15 minutes. two sheriff's deputies are engaged with him. then you see the man put up his arms and deputies shoot. flores collapses to the ground. >> there's no doubt that what's shown in that video is of great concern to all of us. but we also want to get this right. as is our purpose in every investigatives investigative case. >> reporter: there is a second video clearer and closer capturing the altercation last
friday. the video hasn't been released. a source with knowledge of the investigation says the video shot by a neighbor shows the suspect acting wildly aggressive and at one point charging at a deputy with a knife. according to the sheriff, the video is being an lialyzed to determine if flores was holdin a knife. >> it appears he has something in his hand. that's why we asked the texas dps crime lab to review it with an aim to try to enlarge and to slow down that sequence so we have a better idea of that. >> reporter: authorities would not say if a knife, however, was recovered at the scene. police radio traffic references a knife. >> he is outside talking to them. he has a knife in his hand. >> reporter: dispatchers warned the deputies with the suspect. >> looks like the male that called it in assaulted his wife and child.
possibly two patients. and he is also threaten iing. >> reporter: investigators say one of the deputies tried to use his taser. but they did not hit the target. >> i might as well record it if i'm going to watch it. >> reporter: michael thomas is a delivery driver who took the video of the shooting. >> put his hands down. they were talking back and forth. he put his hands down again. he stepped back and put his hands up and they shot him twice after that. >> reporter: a congressman is calling on the sheriff's department to release the second video immediately. >> they have their investigation to do. but it has been several days since the incident. there have been leaks about what's in the second video. the sheriff has commented on the evidence in the second video. i think it should be released. >> reporter: the source also tells us that on that video you can see gilbert flores yelling
loudly. but it's hard to make out what he is saying. the source says there's a voice on the video asking whether or not floor he is e flores is try himself killed. it doesn't sound like it's a police officer at the scene. the video has not been release and it's not clear when it will be. >> thank you so much. tonight, d.a. nicholas lahood. you have seen this second video. could you tell us what's in it? >> yes, ma'am. what i can say about the video, since there's an yoen going investigation, i don't want to compromise that, it gives us a different angle and a closer view of the incident which is helpful in evaluating next steps once the investigation comes to our office. >> you say it provides clarity. can you tell us the distance? it's presumably closer to the
actual encounter than the first video, correct? can you give us more details on that? >> it's hard to tell distance from a video. my opinion is it's closer than the one from the angle that everyone has seen. you can see clearly what's going on between the officer and mr. flores -- the deputies and mr. flores. that's good for all determination on what to do next or not to do next. >> could you just tell us what he was doing with this knife, whether he was threatening the deputies? >> i have seen the video a number of times but not as many as the sheriff's office has. it's very obvious or has been told to us that at different points that mr. flores had a knife in his hand. for me to make a determination of whether he a knife in his hand is one thing and then was the officer -- the deputies in this case in immediate danger at the time that they decided to shoot and re -- shoot their firearms. all that will be determined once the investigation is turned over to us. we spend time with the evidence. right now we haven't considered
all the evidence. there's evidence that i believe the sheriff's office is gathering. once that happens, they will turn it over to us. we will spend time with it. >> you said it was told to you it was the case. does that mean it wasn't readily apparent that he was holding a knife? >> i'm not going to comment on the video. what we have known and been told and heard through agencies is that there was a knife involved at different points. ultimately, what we have to do is take a snapshot of time. we will look at a snapshot of time of when the deputies decided to use deadly force. was it appropriate under texas law? that's going to be our analysis. >> i understand you have a job do and there's this investigation. but you have this one video that's out there that shows one perspective. public opinion is being formed from this one video. isn't it only fair, don't you have an obligation to provide more information on this second video if, in fact, it provides more clarity and helps the
officers' case in this? >> i'm not trying to help out the officer or not. my job is to do justice. i need to make sure the end result is fair. >> but it's balanced. it's not helping out the officers as much as providing the balance and being fair to the officers. >> my fairness needs to be in the conclusion how this case is handled. right now, this is not the trial. we're in the court of public opinion. our job is to deal with the court of law and the evidence and whether we should go forward. i'm focused on the end result and conclusion and making sure we hold our oath to seek justice. >> okay. thank you very much. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. let's bring in paul kallen. what do you make of the fact he's not releasing the second video? >> i'm shocked. at a time when there's suspicious of law enforcement in the united states, why not be transparent? why not release as much
information as possible to the public so that they know a fair investigation is being done? dash cam camera film is released all the time by police departments. i think this district attorney is playing by the old rule book. i think times have changed. video has changed those times. >> parsing his words, he says at different type times he was hoa knife. how do you read into that? >> he was careful in saying, sources have said at different times he was holding a knife. that says to me that this video maybe does not clearly demonstrate he was holding a knife. frankly, when you go back to the first video, the problem is, even if he was holding the knife, he stopped. he is not moving forward aggressively toward the police. there doesn't seem to be an active threat to the police posed. he mentioned that under texas law we have to take a snapshot in time. what the d.a. was saying there is that the officers have to be
threatened at the moment they use deadly physical force, not what happened previously. >> there's a lot to learn. but some have raised that question, why didn't they back up, call for more help? i think the second video would answer a lot of questions as the d.a. said it provides clarity. thank you so much. up next, trump and bush going toe to toe every day it seems. online and on the stump. is the trat strategy backfiring bush. does the bittermeness stem from when bush blocked trump from building a casino? we have a report. ♪ ♪ (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back.
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growing feud. >> reporter: jeb bush has stepped up strategy to go hard after donald trump turned tongue in cheek, a quiz released on social media asking questions aimed at what they say underscores the contrast between trump and bush. would you rather support a candidate who said they were very pro-choice or was a strongly pro-life governor and defended planned parenthood? >> go in and vote. >> reporter: in a rare personal jab, would you rather support a candidate who strives to shake every hand everywhere? trump who calls himself a counter puncher did that. >> a low energy kind of guy. he had to do something. >> reporter: this as a new poll shows both men suffering in the popularity department. 59%, nearly six in ten, have an unfavorable view of trump and jeb bush isn't doing much bet we are 55%.
trump made waves from day one with comments about mexican illegal immigrants and despite saying this -- >> i will win the hispanic vote. i think i will win it very easily. >> reporter: he has a big problem with hispanic voters, 82% have an unfavorable view of him. jeb bush speaks fluent spanish and used it to attack trump this week. his favorability rating is higher than trump among hispanics. today, trump played to his base by saying bush should really set the example by speaking english while in the united states. a bush aid shot back that he is trying to kill the party by attacking any american bilingual. still it's trump's popularity with conservative primary voters his opponents are most worried about. >> once people find out his position, i think they will be sort of fleeing with hir hair on fire. they will say, my goodness, he
is not really what he said he was. he's not really a conservative. >> reporter: the republican national committee made a very unusual move late today, one that appears to be based in fear that donald trump is not a committed republican and could end up running as a third party candidate if he doesn't get the nomination. the rnc issued a pledge to all the republican presidential candidates asking them to sign it and send it back promising that they will back the eventual republican nominee and not run as a independent. donald trump has refused to make those promises. his spokeswoman told me they have no comment on whether they got this pledge request for the rnc today. >> a lot of people putting pressure on him to make that decision soon. thank you so much, dana bash. gloria borger, thank you for coming on. the first question is, we have heard trump say a lot. of course, he is saying tonight
bush should only talk in english in the u.s. has he gone too far this time? >> you know, there are lots of times over the course of the summer where we have all said, hasn't he gone too far. is this it? hasn't he gone too far? the answer is, no. because donald trump knows exactly what he is doing here. as dana was pointing out, he is playing to his conservative base. we can just state that donald trump is not going to win with hispanic voters. he has an 82% infaufsherable rating with hispanic voters. the voters he is doing well with are the white conservative base of the republican party. by saying is that bush ought to speak english, you know, they say, yeah, he should. he is plagying into his group o supporters. >> something else trump said was that bush is attacking him because he had no choice. what do you think, is that true? >> i do. i think it's true. actually, i think bush probably
should have started attacking him earlier. but early on in this race, everybody thought that donald trump was going to implode. and he didn't. and bush sees himself in single digits, for example, in iowa. so what he is doing as other candidates are doing is they're attacking trump from the right. saying, he is not conservative. what bush is trying to do is bolster his own conservative tra d credentials while pointing out that donald trump is not a conservative. the long they are race goes on, you are going to see more and more republican candidates doing it. the ones who have done it so far haven't gotten anywhere. but jeb bush may be a different cat. he may be able to make this work for him. >> that's the question. so far, trump has been the teflon candidate. thank you so much, gloria borger. up next, donald trump supported bush senior but called his son the worst president ever.
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>> i'm a proven conservative with a record. he isn't. >> this guy can't negotiate without of a paper bag. >> reporter: the two weren't always rivals. trump once called jeb a good man, exactly the kind of political leader this country need now and will very much need in the future. even before that he had donated to the former florida governor's campaigns. holding a lavish fund raiser in 1997 at trump tower, and donating $50,000 to the florida republican party. the businessman now calls it more of a business move. >> i give to everybody. when they call, i give. you know what? when i need something from them, two years later, three years later. i call them. they are there for me. >> but the gamble didn't entirely pay off. governor bush who opposed all forms of casino gambling effectively blocked trump's plans to build a multimillion dollar casino in florida with the seminole tribe. it wasn't the only time trump tried to use his cash to cozy up to bush clan.
the former owner of the plaza hotel, hosted a fund raiser for george h.w. bush. he voted for bush. >> donald trump split with the bushs over policier use. meaning he was unhappy with george h.w. bush breaking his pledge not to raise taxes. unhappy with george w. bush marching us off to what appears to be totally unnecessary unjustified war. >> reporter: the relationship soured. his donations done with trump suggesting he would take on w as in pendent in the 2004 election. but he never did enter the race. by 2007, trump called him the worst president ever. he recently highlighted the time an iraqi threw a shoe at the president. >> well that may have been his best moment if you want to know the truth. pretty sad to say. >> now jeb is fighting back. >> it's all person for him,
sure. his characterizations of my views, long standing views. >> slamming trump at almost every campaign stop. >> if you look at his record of what he believes. he supports democrats. while i was campaigning for republicans in this state and across the country, conservative, or candidates, he was supporting hillary clinton. >> bush and trump battling on everything from campaign style to substantive issues everything from immigration to women's health and now as you heard it there, hillary clinton. bush underscoring the fact that trump previously made financial contributions to clinton. and trump releasing a video suggesting it is the bushs and clinton whose have a history of getting too close. pamela. >> alexandra field, thank you so much. out front. next, the man who is giving new meaning to the term fly-fishing. you don't want to miss it. across america, people like basketball hall of famer
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the future of fishing may mean never having to go near water again. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: forget that old-fashioned rod. you may get hooked on a new way to fish. >> hey, guys, farmer derek here. i am going to try fishing with my drone. this is my first attempt. shh. >> reporter: don't disturb the fish. >> just messing around. >> reporter: kansas farmer, derek, known for his odd ball farm videos. playing jingle bells. ♪ ♪ on a tom brorombone to his catt. or cow art, dropping feed so the cows form a smilie face when captured on drone cam.
this time what he was trying to catch were fish. the first one got away. within ten minutes -- >> yeah! whoo! >> reporter: he hooked a blue gill with plastic worm. if the fish are bigger you couldencould end up like in jaws. but the little blue gill was no monster jaws. like the shark in the video. that left two australian morning show hosts dumbfounded. >> i am never going back in the water. >> me either. >> reporter: the blue gill did end up going back in the water. my first fish. not before derek documented his catch taking a selfie. >> or a fishy. >> reporter: as for drone fishing technique. when you feel a nibble it is like jerking up the rod. >> i was sending my drone straight up. >> reporter: as for the poor fish it had to put up with derek
droning on. >> my first drone fish. >> reporter: about his new way of fly-fishing. djhone jeanne moos, skrchlt nn, new york. >> fishie, my goodness. thank you for joining us." "ac 360" now. >> breaking news in politics. making demand of donald trump. a pledge sent to each campaign late today asking the candidates to pledge their support in writing to the party's eventual nominee and to not run for a third party ticket. trump as you know, threatened a third party run before. tonight how he and candidates are responding. we begin north of chicago with what would have to be the hardest words a person can say under the worst circumstances imaginable. with search for her husband's killers widening and fears the trail is going cold.