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please be sure to join us right here in "the situation room" tomorrow. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. trump on top. a new poll shows his leads in iowa and new hampshire expanding. in the same poll bernie sanders soared past hillary clinton in new hampshire. plus police say two vegas cops ambushed while sitting at a red light. were they shot at simply because they were waearing a badge? two broethers attack and nearly kill their parents. they seemed like a normal family. what went on behind closed doors? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, trump reaching new heights. clinton slipping further.
a new poll showing donald trump widening his leads in early voting states of iowa and new hampshire. trump has led the republican field for two straight months uninterrupted. trump has a lead with 29% of the gop vote. ben carson, the other gop outsider is in second place at 22%. jeb bush continuing to fall, now with only 6% of the vote there. to new hampshire where again trump is on top trailed by a new challenger there, ohio governor john kasich with ben carson behind them. hillary clinton sliding in the polls but talking tough. maybe even a little defiant today. >> i believe i've got the vision, the policies, the skill, the tenacity and the determination to get us back on the right track. >> clinton fighting back after her top challenger bernie sanders surged now leading in
new hampshire by 11 points. while clinton still holds the lead in iowa, sanders has made up considerable ground there since july. the wild card, of course, in all this vice president joe biden. will he or won't he enter the race? today it appeared he might. rallying voters in pittsburgh. that's where brianna keilar is tonight. as you are there with those crowds today. is there a draft biden viep among all those people following him? >> reporter: there were a lot of the folks along the parade route today who were telling him to run. some said, beat hillary. when you are in a democrat being town or a town like this, a uniontown, the democratic voters are joe biden's bread and butter politically. you couldn't help but notice how much energy he drew from talking to them. it's a campaign tradition.
presidential hopefuls out on the trail to mark labor day. >> i'm hot. i acknowledge that. i'm mad. i'm angry. >> reporter: joe biden giving a fiery speech in pittsburgh as addressed union members in the heat. >> why in god's name should a man or woman working in a steel mill making $50,000 a year pay a higher rate than someone that makes tens of millions of dollars on wall street? i'm serious. >> reporter: biden is not a candidate. at least not yet. but he sure sounded like one. >> sounds like you have a rational for running. >> i'm going to run part of this parade. >> reporter: biden might be encouraged to get in the race by a new poll that shows he stacks up better against donald trump and jeb bush than hillary clinton in both key early states of new hampshire and iowa. that's where hillary clinton tried to shore up support on this holiday. >> i will do what needs to be done to turn this country around
so it starts producing more opportunity once again. >> reporter: the new poll shows bernie sanders is closing in on her fast in iowa. he is beating her soundly in new hampshire where he campaigned today. >> our campaign for president is seeing in new hampshire, in iowa and all across this country a great deal of energy. >> reporter: on the republican side, voters frustrated with politics as usual are flocking to non-politicians in the race. donald trump, though out of sight this holiday weekend, is still dominating in the polls, consistently the leader in the early contest states. in iowa, neurosurgeon dr. ben carson has a solid hold on second place while wisconsin governor scott walker once leading there has fallen well behind. >> what people are looking for is someone proven. we have seen -- we went up and down hills and around mountains
and corners. in the end, there will be ups and downs in a campaign. >> reporter: walker has really fallen off the political podium. so many establishment candidates have in recent months. this is the summer of trump. it looks like it's going full steam ahead into the fall. >> so many surprises this summer. brianna keilar on the trail. thanks very much. former michigan governor jennifer granholm, for a pro-hillary clinton super pac, and former political director for ronald reagan and rory cooper. rory, this new poll shows donald trump dominating in new hampshire and iowa. many thought that he wouldn't be able to maintain this for long. it's now two months in. he is consistently leading here. is it time for the republican party to admit that he may very well be the gop nominee? >> i don't think we have go that far just yet.
the polls are snapshots in time. we have conducted focus groups of trump supporters in new hampshire. listen, there's not much you can tell them that takes them away from donald trump right now. what you are seeing when you are seeing the second and third surging of carson and fiorina and kasich and rubio, you are seeing people looking for second choices. donald trump is not a second choice for many voters. you are with him or he is down your list. very hard for him to persuade people looking at bush or kasich or rubio to come over to team trump. that's going to make it hard for him to win the nomination. >> jeffrey, you hear rory trying to eject skepticism in there, implying weakness on a second choice candidate. is he wrong? >> well, what he is wrong about here is the republican party doesn't want to come to grips with the establishment at least
is not having a good time coming to grips with donald trump may well be the republican nominee. they're being forced by the response of the people. all of these polls, his crowds, everything. the frontrunner was jeb bush and he is down in some of these polls at 5% and 6%. he is not doing well at all. there are going to have to be adjustments. it's very clear this outsider persuasion between donald trump and ben carson and carly fiorina and i would argue senator ted cruz is strong. it's over 50% collectively repeatedly sometimes as much as 60% or 65%. >> when you have 17 candidates in the race on the republican side, the math is going to be against a lot of the candidates who you are going to get 4%, 5%. it looks like you are lumped in together. k candidates will drop off and there will be a healthy competition. that's a contrast to the democratic side where you have a few candidates and a new frontrunner, sanders, looking at
pushing hillary toward the back. the field is not that big. right now there's a lot of question marks on the republican side. i think the real news this week is coming out of the democratic polls. >> governor graham, i want to talk about that. when you look at the polls there are signs of trouble. you have vice president joe biden more popular than clinton among democrats and in the general electorate. you have biden stacking up better than clinton against trump in both iowa and new hampshire. in these numbers, how do you not see danger signs for the clinton campaign and perhaps a sense that the democrats really want joe biden to run? >> all i can say is, if you look at any of the websites that average the polls, huffington post has got a poll site that averages all of the polls, same thing with real clear politics, you look at that and hillary clinton is number one by far
20-plus points against all comers. wait. let me finish. wait a second. >> she's got to win caucuses and primaries. >> of course she does. yes, new hampshire, she's going to fight for every vote. thank goodness we are at the beginning of this real fervent season. if you look at the february caucuses and primaries, you have four states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. if you look at south carolina and nevada -- >> you know -- >> let me finish. she is 30-plus points ahead. >> it's a momentum campaign. >> of course. >> the direction in the key states, iowa, new hampshire, is not good. the lead -- bernie sanders' lead is getting bigger as we get closer. >> you know, if any pundit said she was going to maintain the stratospheric numbers she had when she was secretary of state in a non-partisan position, they would have been committing
political malpractice. she knew that new hampshire was going to be tough because bernie sanders is right next door as the senator. >> what's happening right now is there's -- >> she's 20-plus points ahead. >> jennifer, i want to give the others a chance to pipe in. rory, will ask you, clinton told the associated press, she does not need to apologize for the e-mail issue. the reason i bring that up is because that issue is very much reflected in credibility numbers for her. it's relevant. her answer today was i did what was allowed. then she was asked if this was an issue. she says she called it in her words not at all, it's a distraction. >> right. >> do these polls tell a different story? >> i mean, this is somewhat delusional. i don't know if she's getting bad advice or if this is what she thinks. her unfavorables are rising while her favorables are tanking. people don't trust her. she said she did nothing wrong. when you look at the secretary of state e-mailing the middle east envoy the day wiki leaks
dumped classified information on the internet and saying, what did you talk about today with the italian foreign minister, that's classified information. she's soliciting it to her personal e-mail. voters know they don't trust her. they look at bernie sanders and joe biden as authentic people who they feel they can trust. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to respond. >> thank you. because 61% of democrats -- this is a primary. 61% of the democrats say they don't care about this. you can be talking about e-mails and she's going to be on the strum stump talking about paid leave. you are talking about it. but democrats -- sg >> the fbi is talking about it. >> 61% do not care about this issue. they care about economics. they call about climate change. >> we will have to leave it there. we will let the polls speak for themselves tonight. >> see joe biden in pittsburgh
today. >> we are watching him closely as well. he said he is running in the parade. he didn't saye he was running fr the race. >> the crowds loved him. >> "outfront" next, more surveillance video surfaces from the shooting of an illinois police officer. why after six days hasn't the public seen any of the footage? two brothers accused of beating and stabbing their parents, nearly killing them. the neighbors say they were a normal family. what happened? donald trump calling hillary clinton the worst secretary of state in history. their daughters are longtime friends. can their friendship survive a campaign like this?
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pausing to remember the illinois police officer shot and killed while on duty just north of chicago. you are looking at live pictures of the funeral procession. this as it arrives at the cemetery. more than 1,000 police vehicles involved in that procession there. it took more than an hour to get to the cemetery as it paraded through the town. his three killers though tonight are still on the loose. there's no hard answers about exactly what investigators know about them. for six days now, police have been canvassing the crime scene and the surrounding areas and collecting and analyzing multiple surveillance videos. police giving few details about the suspects or their whereabouts. ryan young is "outfront." >> reporter: joe gliniewicz, last call for his community. police say the husband and father of four was shot and
killed in the line of duty last week. his family, including thousands of brothers and sisters in blue, all here to pay their respects before laying the 30-year police veteran to rest. ♪ >> we all knew joe was a hero. but now the nation knows he is a hero. you will always be a part of my life. >> reporter: many who don't wear a uniform simply came to show their support for those who do. >> i hope it sends society a message that this needs to stop. we all support each other and we can't do it without the public's help. >> reporter: while the lieutenant known as g.i. joe was laid to rest, hundreds of officers, including the fbi, atm, homeland security and the lake county sheriff's office continue analyzing tips and
several surveillance videos, working to catch three suspects. >> we have images of people that we believe are subjects that we would be interested in talking to. >> reporter: investigators claim live on cnn they found a significant new piece of evidence. >> i will tell you that today our evidence technicians were at the scene once again, and they did recover a piece of significant evidence that wasn't found in the last few days. i can't reveal exactly what that is or any of the other evidence, because it's extremely relevant that we keep some of this information away from the public. >> reporter: we know there will be an update tomorrow around 12:30 involving this case. so many people hoping for more information when it comes to either the description of the suspects or maybe some lead that police have. there's a $50,000 reward involved in this case. >> they called him g.i. joe.
ryan young there where the funeral was. joining us, arthur roderick and jonathan gillian. jonathan, officials told us last week they collected this significant evidence. they wouldn't tell us what it was. it's 72 hours after that. we don't have any new developments. you have been involved in numerous investigations like this. to your best knowledge, what's going on here? >> i think they're following the protocol that law enforcement normally follows, which is keep everything as quiet as possible while this thing unfolds for a couple reasons. so they don't givoe out secrets. the other is so they have a rock-hard prosecution. that's all well thought out and shown through history that that's the way law enforcement should work, there should be a shift now where they're using the public more just by explaining more to the public, i think. >> arthur, i want to ask you that. i have talked to people in law
enforcement. they say if they have video, they would have expected immediately thati images to sha public and say, have you seen this man or men. why isn't that happening? >> jim, i think it's exactly the case of them protecting the veracity of the leads that they have. i mean, if they have got surveillance video, they might have a very good idea who these individuals are. instead of releasing it to the public or to the media, they want to go ahead and investigate fully that particular lead. it sounds like they have located some other major evidence which obviously could possibly tie into the video. but i know some of that video was taken from surveillance cameras that were positioned at intersections. so they could very well have a vehicle coming and going from that particular area after the crime occurred. >> listen, arthur, you know more about law enforcement than i do. just from a layman's perspective, i don't -- i also understand the sensitivity of not releasing all the information you have.
but if you are having trouble six days later finding these guys, why not put an image out there? i'm remembering in the case of the escaped convicts in the prison in new york, you had their faces out there so everybody knew who they were looking for. what could the reason be to keep that under wrap ss? >> i don't think they have an image. where there has been video, it's less of an image and more of a time line to see where -- and following it backwards to see where they came from and then trying to identify who they are that way. whether or not there's an image, there may not be an image. >> right. i guess you are right. it depends on the angle of the camera, the light. arthur, authorities have insisted there's no safety risk in this area today. there are enough police officers out there so that people should be fine. they shouldn't be concerned. in light of -- as you look at this, it does look like they just don't know where they are. right? how can they say that and at the
same time it not be clear that they have a good lead on these guys? >> i mean, this is what's frustrating i think for the public and for the media is the lack of information forthcoming on this particular investigation. i think what law enforcement is saying out there is probably true. there's so many law enfonsmerce offers out there that any lead that does come in can be handled practically right away without it sitting there. there's enough investigators in that area, i think, that law enforcement feels like there's no public threat right now. >> jonathan, as you look at this case, is there anything strange about the way local authorities -- i don't want to second guess them. they lost one of their own. they are doing their best. is there anything strange as you look at the way this has been handled? does this look like standard police operating procedure? >> i agree. our criticism isn't necessarily against anybody in particular.
i do think one thing has to change. it was the same thing up in new york with the manhunt for the escaped prisoners. you have seen it in other places. it's okay for law enforcement to give out the possibility of a motive, to give out the description saying there's a black guy and two white guys that hang out together. do you know anybody that rolls like that? anybody that would roll somewhere early in the morning and you haven't seen them, anybody that's on the run or trying to hide, there's going to be a change in their lifestyle. all these interviews you see the chief and investigators doing, they could constantly be reiterating that if they don't have information to give out. i think that's where they are losing in all the scenarios that pop up. >> a lot of people following this closely. they're rooting for the killers to be caught. thanks arthur and jonathan. next, two las vegas police officers ambushed. one shot. police say while waiting at a traffic light. it's the second time in just three days that a vegas officer
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welcome back. tonight, police are searching for a motive after one of thur own was shot and injured by a gun man. this attack taking place in las vegas. two officers were in their patrol car at a red light when the suspect approached and fired several rounds with a semiautomatic handgun hitting and injuring one of them. this was the second time in just three days that las vegas police officers had been shot in the line of duty. nick valencia is "outfront." >> shots fired. >> reporter: a gunman ambushes two las vegas police officers at a stoplight. the attack leaving one officer injured, his partner able to chase down and arrest the suspect. in fox lake, illinois, hundreds bid farewell to a fallen veteran
police officer, shot and killed. the hunt for the suspects continues. ♪ a sheriff's deputy is laid to rest after being shot execution style 15 times while filling up his vehicle at a gas station near houston, texas. that's just in the last two weeks. this year, at least 24 officers across the country have been shot and killed in the line of duty. by comparison, as of this date last year, 36 officers had been shot and killed. according to the non-profit officer down memorial page. while the numbers are down, officers are feeling increasingly vulnerable says cnn law enforcement analyst cedric alexander. >> there's real challenges out there. it's a tough time to be a police officer at this moment. >> reporter: deaths at the hands of police like this shooting in san antonio where the suspect appears to have his hands in the air and the death of freddie
gray in baltimore have led to the creation of groups like black lives matter. >> the only charged rhetoric has been holding officers accountable. has it been about fair police contracts and independent investigates? >> reporter: this man says blaming the black lives matter movement is only misdirected anger. >> it has been specifically about ending violence. >> reporter: even show, chants like this from a march last month in minnesota -- and graffiti like this in arkansas and texas are putting more and more cops on edge. >> we have heard black lives matter. all lives matter. cops' lives matter, too. why don't we drop the qualifier and say lives matter? >> reporter: many police departments across the country are changing their tactics going from one police officer in a patrol car to two, even still cops everywhere are feeling the risk. while the rhetoric from the black lives matter movement may not be to blame for the recent wave in police killings,
certainly cops across the country are starting to notice the current climate. jim? >> nick in atlanta. van jones and bill stanton. bill, i wonder if i could start with you. two las vegas officers shot in the past two weeks. you have other shootings in the line of duty in texas and illinois. we have heard from police officers. you heard it there in nick's piece, police do feel under assault. in your view, do they have the right to feel -- do they have the data to feel they are are a target? >> not only is there data, but they are watching with their eyes and listening with their ears. pigs in a blanket don't shoot. there's a growing culture of anarchy and violence, hate crimes towards cops. so, yes, all law enforcement personnel need to be more careful. >> van, i want to ask you, you saw this anti-police chant in minnesota. you see graffiti in arkansas.
we know there's a lot of emotion here after cases of michael brown and others. but you do see groups that seem to justify, even instigating violence against police. i wonder if you see that as well. is that a danger? >> are you speaking to me? >> i'm speaking to van. >> first of all, any time anybody loses their life, whether it's a police officer or a young unarmed african-american or anyone else, the whole country should mourn. we do. but i think it's really unfortunate and ridiculous to say that people who are going around killing police officers have anything at all to do with these protests. first of all, numbers should matter. statistics should matter. we have fewer police officers shot this year than last year. >> van, to be fair -- to be fair, i wasn't identifying the violence against police with black lives matter. i was just showing that in this very emotional environment, you do have groups who are taking it
a step further. they are talking about violence against cops. >> what did you say? >> isn't it interesting that you made that correlation? >> because you made it. >> i will come back to you. i want to hear from you. let van answer. >> because we have an officer -- my point is that. there is zero correlation between people who are speaking out saying they want less violence. this movement is against police murdering civilians and civilians murdering police. that's a consistent position. the problem that we have right now is that now numbers don't matter. we have fewer police officers being shot. also, that one little segment of those protesters who said that despicable thing, there have been thousands of protesters where nothing like that was said. i think we have to not smear the entire movement because of one tiny part of a march where
people said something despicable. that's not representative of the movement. >> i want to ask you, nationally you look at the numbers and the fact is despite the impression of danger, police deaths are down. they are down 16% from this time last year. does that show you -- don't the numbers show -- you can argue the numbers show that those fears are on the statistics, that those fears are overblown. >> let's talk numbers. shall we? those numbers show a lower amount of police murdered. but never have i seen in many, many, many years where the public has -- there are certain fringe groups have a hate for cops where the whole -- we will go back to ferguson. the hands up don't shoot was actually based on a lie. we're seeing it in new york, in chicago, in texas where cops aren't killed in the line of duty. cops are killed by execution. that's what's changing the
narrative here, at least from my optic. >> van, i want to give you a chance to respond. to be clear, it's not to tar the brush of the black lives matter movement. it's to say, are the emotions so raw right now that you do have this danger that that inspires some groups, granted at the extreme, to push back and feel that they have -- to push back and call for violence against cops? >> there may be some of that unfortunately in our country, we have had that for a long time. go back to al capone and bonnie and clyde, criminals, extremists targeted our police. they are wrong for doing that. i want to be clear. to the extent there's emotion, it's not because of the marches. it's not because of the so-called rhetoric. it's because of the videotaped evidence of some of our police officers doing things that are shocking to people. i hope we're not saying that people should see shocking things on tv and not protest. you are saying we don't have the first amendment right to petition for redress the
grievances? i hope you are not going that far. >> no, van, don't worry your hopes will not be fulfilled. i don't look -- if a cop does a bad shooting or does excessive force, guess what, in my opinion, he is not a cop. he's a criminal. he will be arrested. we have seen cases where there are bad shootings. those cops are arrested and become criminals. if we're going to go to numbers, i mean, the numbers of bad cops and bad shootings is below 1%. that's a big brush that people are painting when they say cops are bad. cops every day go out, save lives, millions of contacts, no bad reports. >> we will have to leave it there. i think what we do see -- there is common ground in this emotional issue. there's certainly common ground there. we will keep the conversation up. bill, van, thank you for joining us tonight. "outfront" next, neighbors described the people in this atlanta home as a model family. why are two brothers accused of
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tonight, two brothers behind bars accused of trying to kill their own parents. police say the 17-year-old and the 22-year-old stabbed their father in the back several times. he is in critical condition tonight. and attacked the mother as well. they then filled the family home with natural gas in an attempt to burn it to the ground. >> reporter: police say zachary and his wife were brutally attacked in their suburban home outside of atlanta by their own sons. she called 911 for help. >> she stated to our 911 operator that her sons were trying to kill her and her husband. >> reporter: a neighbor tells cnn affiliate wgcl he saw zachary saturday morning after the attack. >> we didn't really know what
was going on. we did see him on the ground outside and he was bleeding badly. >> reporter: he had blunt force trauma to the head and several stab wounds on his back. she also beaten but was alert and conscious enough to call police. this is video of 17-year-old cameron and his 22-year-old brother christopher as they were booked on charges of aggravated assault with intent to murder and first degree arson. authorities say the house smelled of natural gas and they believed the brothers tried to set the house on fire. the alleged crimes, a shock to neighbors. >> definitely a good kid. that's the last thing i would expect out of those kids. >> reporter: they are both expected to survive. no word yet on a possible motive. police say both brothers were taken into custody immediately and have been cooperative.
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breaking news tonight, the white house saying it is actively considering arrange i responses to the refugee crisis. thousands of people fleeing syria and across the middle east have been flooding into europe. now a new fear that terrorists could be hiding among those refugees. barbara starr is "outfront."
>> reporter: more than 360,000 refugees have crossed the met terraini mediterranean, more thn 10,000 stuck on this greek island, another ship arriving with tales of death and fear. >> we come to small boats. so difficult, it means hundreds about 99.5 is dead. >> reporter: and then another harrowing journey to a final destination. thousands hoping to make it to austr austria, germany, france or the uk on foot, trains and buses. but growing worry about the unintended consequences of opening boaopen
ing borders fleeing war and isis. the risk to u.s. and european security and the stability of crucial allies in the middle east. >> lebanon and close allies of the u.s. like jordan are creaking under the strain of millions of refugees. >> reporter: the u.s. is under international pressure to take in thousands. but the risk that an isis militant could slip through remains the top concern. >> there's a lot of terrorist groups operating in that part of the world. we need to make sure that fundamentally that we protect the national security of the united states of america. any asylum seeker has to go through a thorough background check. >> reporter: the potential threat may already be in the works. the american news side buzz feed quoted a syrian operative in turkey saying he is working to sneak fighters in to europe. they are being smuggled into turkey he says, hidden among
hundreds of refugees in cargo ships, the type of operation that can be tough to detect. >> when you have large numbers coming into europe. i don't know how the governments could really effectively monitor them. the potential for an attack has to be strongly considered. >> reporter: u.s. officials say so far there is no specific intelligence that indicates isis operatives have been smuggled in amongst the recent refugee population. but as the crisis grows, so does the worry. jim? >> barbara starrr at the pentagon. a former cia operative with long experience in the middle east. bob, i have asked intelligence officials about the issue for a number of weeks. their response -- terrorists have a lot of ways to get into europe other than leaky boats across the mediterranean. but as this refugee crisis grows and not just boats they're driving across, you know, walking across, is this a real
danger? >> jim, absolutely it is a danger. these smuggling networks can also smuggle weapons, explosives, and remember a lot of the refugees don't have travel documentation, real travel documentation. they buy it. they lose theirs. when they show up in germany or hungary or wherever. we lost our documentation. i'm so and so. there is no way to check these people. >> so, we know that they have had, european authorities have had enough trouble trying to track potential terrorists, before the refugee crisis coming out of syria. trying to get into europe. as you have this flood of people and you mentioned a lot of them don't have papers, is there a way to weed out, to really screen them? >> absolutely not. there is nothing you can do. not like they have dna record for the people. they say who they say they are. isis would be a very easy thing to slip somebody in there as well as weapons. and the more refugees, that come towards europe. remember, there are 60 million people on the move in africa and
the middle east. the harder it is to get and detect a cell. >> you saw the one web posting. can't read too much into that. is this something a group like isis would jump on to take advantage of it. spot the opportunity. and take advantage of it. >> absolutely. jim, what they would do, let's take a seasoned fighter, couple seasoned fighters on a suicide mission. simply put them in a truck. put them on a boat. send them into europe. with weapons and scary out an attack. know way for german. french police or any police in europe to monitor the people. especially when they end up in large refugee camps. just no way to police them. and as the numbers head up and up and up. i think we could almost be certain there is going to be some sort of attack connected to the refugees. >> sobering assessment to say the least. bob behr, thank you for joining us tonight. and "outfront" next.
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tonight, donald trump and hillary clinton continue swinging at each other on the campaign trail. but what you may not know is that behind the scenes their daughters chelsea clinton and ivanka trump are close friends. as the battle for the white house heats up. can that friendship survive? our correspondent is "out front." >> hillary who i think has very big problems by the way.
very big problems. bigger problems than whether or not she will run. >> as their parents sling insults at each other on the campaign trail. >> i do find a lot of what he says pretty ridiculous. >> ivanka trump and chelsea clinton's long standing friendship is about to be put to the test. a test their parents have failed. after oncing we close friends themselves, hillary clinton attending donald trump's wedding, trump making donations in the past to the clintons and their foundation, they're now rivals. not holding anything back. >> i think the guy went way overboard, offensive, outrageous, pick your adjective. >> she is the worst secretary of the state in the history of our country. >> but ivanka and chelsea have a private relationship one that has grown more intimate over the years. the two women both in their thirnt30s, new moms, living in manhattan. finding bond. their unconventional upbringing in the spotlight. do you talk to kids about why math and reading? >> their career paths from high
profile tv gigs. >> you both are amazing. >> to big roles in their respective family businesses. and their family ties. both marrying men of the jewish faith. ivanka converting with marriage. on social media both seem to be president of the other's fan club. e tweeting out complyments. ivanka with #wisewords. there is nothing skin deep about ivanka always aware of everyone around her. an aware not that in some ways remind me of my dad in his ability to increase the joy of the room. but their biggest connection could also become their friendship's kryptonite. both are fiercely loyal to their family and big boosters of each of their parents' presidential bids. >> i can tell you there is no better person than my father to have in your corner when you are facing tough opponents, or making hard decisions. he is battle tested.
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