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donald trump on the attack. less than a week from the cnn debate, the front-runner unleashing on his opponents, including a big dig against carly fiorina's looks. >> and he just unloads on dr. ben carson, now rising in the polls, questioning whether he is a good doctor, even a good christian. a close associate, a friend of ben carson's will respond here live. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. what a day. donald trump, he doesn't just cast aspersions, he drops apersion bombs. with just six days to go before
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the crucial cnn debate, he questioned whether dr. ben carson was a good doctor and whether a good christian to boot. he questioned whether jeb bush was funny. >> trump's verbal assault against carson came just a day after carson took on trump questioning trump's faith saying the biggest difference between the two men in carson's words, i don't in any way deny my faith in god. here is trump's response just this morning. >> i have known ben carson, of him, for a long time. i never heard faith was a big thing until just rentsly. >> he's a seven day adventist. it's something he talks about a lot. >> all of a sudden he becomes this great religious figure. i don't think he's a great religious figure and yi saw him yesterday quoting something on humility and it looked like he had just memorized it two minutes before he made the quote, so, you know, don't tell me about ben carson -- >> but ben carson is coming at
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you, too. >> he's starting to hit me so i hit back. i only hit back when i get hit. i'm a great counter puncher. you're talking about his faith -- excuse me, chris, go back and look at his past. look at his views on abortion and see where he stands. you talk about abortion, i mean, go back and look at his views on abortion. now all after sudden he gets on very low key. frankly, he looks like -- he makes bush look like the energizer bunny. who is he to question my faith when i am -- you know, he doesn't even know me. i have met him a few times, but i don't know ben carson. he was a doctor, perhaps an okay doctor by the way. you can check that out, too. we we are not talking about a great -- he was an okay doctor. >> i don't know about okay doctor. you know, he was the first man to separate conjoined twins. >> because he's a doctor and he hired one nurse he's going to end up being the president of the united states? he shouldn't be questioning my faith because, number one, i'm leading with the evangelicals. i'm protestant, presbyterian.
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i have great relationships with the people of iowa, with new hampshire, with south carolina and he shouldn't be questioning my faith. you know why? because he knows nothing about me. i met him a couple of times. >> he's known about him for a long time but he knows nothing about me. that's just the beginning of it. keep in mind donald trump and ben carson are leading the republican race for president right now. a brand new cnn poll out just this morning shows that they're the only candidates standing at the moment in double digits. trump also slammed the only woman in the republican field. he suggested that carly fiorina's face would make her unelectable. here is what he said in a "rolling stone" magazine interview. this is the quote getting all the attention. look at that face. would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that? the face of our next president? trump -- >> trump was unapologetic about those comments. he denied when he was talking about her face that he was indeed talking about her face. listen to how he tried to explain this to chris cuomo.
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>> but carly, the statement about carly, i'm talking about her persona. her persona -- she is not going to be president -- >> but i don't know about that -- >> she had a terrible, terrible failed time. >> lots to discuss clearly. let's bring in s.e. cupp and jeffrey lord. jeff, first to you -- >> is there anything to discuss? >> i have a big lead up before i get to you. i want to get your take on this whole thing because he calls himself a counter puncher but when it comes to ben carson, he's now questioning if he's a good doctor, questioning if he's a good christian and carly fiorina, questioning her face and questioning her business chops. what is he doing here? >> well, i think, you know, in terms of the thing with ben carson, i do think dr. carson made a mistake with the questioning faith. i mean, to be perfectly candid, this kind of thing was settled when john f. kennedy was elected and people were questioning his catholicism.
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by the time john kerry became a nominee and he was a catholic, george w. bush got the catholic vote. i just think that, you know, americans don't like to go there, and i think that was probably a mistake. but he is -- that said, donald trump is a counter puncher, and he will counter punch, and so ben carson went after him, and i might add, this is typical of what happens in presidential primaries when they really heat up. >> no. >> not even close. >> jeffrey -- >> -- they go after each other like crazy. >> i covered a lot of presidential campaigns, and i haven't seen someone basically question a nur resurgeon who separated conjoined twins whether he's a good doctor. i haven't seen him question his faith. ben carson went after donald trump's faith, too, but trump jumped right back in. i haven't seen a presidential candidate ever call a female presidential candidate ugly essentially which is what he did. >> he did. >> john, here is the problem. people have a problem, a serious problem, with little correctness. >> this is not political
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correctness, jeff. go ahead. go ahead. go ahead. >> kate, note that donald trump's numbers went up 13 points in this new cnn poll with women after the situation with megyn kelly, and i'm suggesting to you it's because they don't care about political correctness. according to that cnn poll, women said that the economy was either extremely important or very important to the tune when you add those figures together of 91%, and i'm saying that when we get into these discussions, they don't care about them. they don't care about them. what they care about is do they have a job? does their family members have a job? can they pay the mortgage? that kind of thing. when you have 91% of women saying this and 13%, you know, go up in terms of being favorable -- >> let's let s.e. get in here. >> there's a message. >> s.e., jump in on this. can we reiterate the quote from "rolling stone." i want to get your take on this. jeffrey lord says it doesn't matter if you look at the polls.
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donald trump said in "rolling stone," look at that face, would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that, the face of our next president? i mean, she's a woman and i'm not supposed to say bad things but really, folks, come on. are we serious? s.e.? >> yeah, you know, i don't know envy jeffrey having to carry donald trump's decidedly fetid water every day. it's not an enviable job and he does it very well, but what donald trump says is indefensible. it's indefensible intellectually. it doesn't make any sense to call someone like ben carson an okay doctor. that's factually wrong. and believe me, i am a huge critic of ben carson. there's plenty to go ambassadft carson on. his neurosurgeon skills probably aren't among them. it's indefensible to call carly fiorina a very successful woman that a lot of other people admire who is running for president ugly and that should
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disqualify her. these are disgusting, ad homi m hominem, nonsensical, incoherence attacks that we should all universally agree have no place in the political process. this is not an example of political incorrectness and sort of standing bravely athwart pc nonsense. >> hang on jeffrey -- >> i hope donald trump and ben carson end up cannibalizing each other because neither of them is qualified to be president. >> what is your message to republican women? he's leading 33% of women. he picked up support among women. he gained 13% in the polls. so then you who have concerns about donald trump, speak to the republican women out there. what's your message to them? >> look, i think what conservative women and other
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trump supporters are latching onto is a very good message. part of trump's campaign i actually like and that is the message of winning, and i wish some of the other republican candidates would take that up because it's incredibly appealing after eight years of sort of leading from behind, failed policy here at home and abroad, and this sense of resignation from our political leaders. i love that, and that is appealing to me. if you can sort of ignore everything else, i get that being appealing, but i would hope that conservative women and men, voters of every kind, start questioning what trump stands for because it's certainly not the republican party and it's not conservatism. it seems to be trump. he stands for trump. >> guys, stick around just for one minute because we have some breaking news. >> we have some breckiaking new. jean casarez is on the ground in baltimore, maryland, following the situation there. jean, what's the very latest? >> reporter: judge barry
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williams has just made his ruling, pivotal motion. he has ruled there will be no change of venue in the trial of the six police officers. they will be tried -- they will try to select a jury here in baltimore. he says that we need to believe in the people of baltimore, in this community, that they can be fair and impartial. so they will try to seat a jury right here. so the decision has been made. no change of venue at this moment. no other cities in baltimore will entertain the trials of these six police officers. it will be tried right here in the city of baltimore. this is what the prosecutor had wanted saying we need to have faith in this community, that they can be fair and impartial. so all of those chanting that they wanted the trials to be here in baltimore, they have achieved that today. a decision just being announced by judge barry williams on the bench in the courthouse. >> all right. big moment in baltimore. that trial will not be moved. those trials will not be moved. jean casarez, thank you so much.
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stick around with us. we have a lot more to discuss. big political news today, ben carson's business manager a close friend of ben carson, joins us to talk about these new diatribes from donald trump about his faith, about his prowess as a doctor. you are not going to want to miss this. also ahead for us, a tennis star, former tennis star, now speaking out after police in new york slam him to the ground, put him in handcuffs, detain him. turns out they had the wrong guy. you're going to hear from james blake coming up. bill's got a very tough 13lie here...... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce.
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back to the big conversation of the day, donald trump
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unleashing a rainstorm of insults this morning. his chief target today ben carson after carson questioned the authenticity of mr. trump's faith yesterday. and some important context, everyone, where they stand in the polls. according to a new cnn/orc poll, carson is closing the gap a bit. >> s.e. cupp and jeffrey lord back with us. also joining us, david brody, chief political correspondent for the christian broadcasting northwestwo network. thank you so much for being with us. there's a battle right now for evangelicals and jeffrey pointed out ben carson in a way started it vis-a-vis donald trump. let's listen to what ben carson said exactly when he was questioning trump's faith. >> i realize where my success has come from, and i don't in any way deny my faith in god, and i think that probably is a
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big difference. that's a very big part of who i am, humility and fear of the lord. i don't get that impression with him. maybe i'm wrong. i don't get that impression. >> i don't get that impression from him. you know, obviously donald trump responded questioning whether ben carson was a good christian. david, how will this play, this battle about who is a good christian play among evangelicals, particularly in iowa? >> well, it's going to play all right, and i'm sure it's already playing. i have heard from a few evangelicals anecdotally this morning who are actually big trump supporters. they also like ben carson. when they heard donald trump say that donald trump's an okay doctor, they started shaking their head saying don't go there. it's like saying gandhi is okay at peace. it's part of what's going on here, there's a situation with
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evangelicals where there's an overlap between some of the trump supporters and the carson supporters. they come from a bracket, these e ven jagelcle voters come fromn area of i'm sick and tired of it. the problem for donald trump is that's the only bracket he's playing in right now and he's doing very well in that bracket. ben carson is playing in another evangelical bracket and that's the christian man bracket, if you will. the guy that wears his faith on his sleeve and talks about god and his faith all the time. that's the bracket that ben carson plays in as well. so you have two brackets for carson, one for trump. so trump has to be very careful as he goes on any sort of attack, especially against ben carson. >> careful going on the attack is not something donald trump has been known for but it haesnt seemed to hurt him to this point. s.e., i want to follow up on this exact conversation on faith and questioning and taking on each other's faith in this presidential race. jeffrey lord, he brought up in
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the last block, in our last segment, he said it was a mistake for ben carson to attack donald trump and to question his faith in the first place. do you think it was a mistake? is it a mistake to take that issue on? >> well, only because it's not provable. it's sort of a losing argument because regardless of the way that ben carson tries to present donald trump as lacking humility, which is probably fair, it's just not a provable line of attack. so i don't think it was wise when democrats wondered if john f. kennedy would be beholden to the pope as the first catholic president or whether, you know, catholics wondered if john kerry was catholic enough because he didn't go to mass enough. i don't think those lines of attacks are productive, but i think what's interesting when it comes to the evangelical vote is history. we have to remember that people were very concerned that evangelicals were not going to come out for someone like mitt romney who was seen as moderate.
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he was mormon. there was all of this anxiety they were going to stay home and, in fact, they came out in bigger numbers than they did for john mccain. so they might be with donald trump and ben carson now, but i'm pretty confident evangelicals will support the republican nominee no matter who it is. >> i don't know about that. >> david, you have written extensively about the subject of why evangelicals support donald trump. you say they maybe don't care as much about whether he can name his favorite bible verse. you get the sense from people that when they -- when donald trump went after ben carson, particularly calling him only an okay doctor, you're hearing from evangelicals they think donald trump went too far? >> i think anecdotally at this point, yes. having said that we'll find out in the poll numbers sooner than later i'm sure. but, look, i think the problem with the okay doctor line is that it goes to donald trump's brand. donald trump's brand whether you like it or not is he's the, quote, truth teller, right? if he's the truth teller and
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he's calling ben carson an okay doctor, that's not computing with a lot of folks, including evangelicals and that's part of the problem here. look, donald trump plays well with evangelicals, i want to be clear about this and there's a reason he's at such a high number with evangelicals. it's the boldness, folks. look, evangelicals have been played like a fiddle for years from the gop establishment. they're done with it. they're tired of it and even if donald trump goes, quote, off the reservation as we like to say, they're going to let him have a few mistakes. >> too late, too late. >> a few mistakes. how many mistake will it take? we'll see, i guess. that boldness plays well, folks. >> jeffrey, i want to return to the attack that donald trump played against carly fiorina because i really do want to get your take on this one thing. if the "rolling stone" article he talks about her face. today when he was asked about it, he said that he essentially he didn't say he wasn't talking about her face, he just said i'm talking about her persona and then he goes on to attack her.
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in what you saw in that "rolling stone" article, do you think, do you think donald trump was calling carly fiorina ugly or do you think donald trump was talking about carly fiorina, her persona? >> well, you know, as we all know, your face is inseparable from your persona so, you know, i'll leave it to donald trump on that, but, kate, i just really think this kind of thing is not important to people. i mean, what's important to them are their jobs -- when we talk about evangelicals or women or what have you, they're not stick figures. they're human beings with real problems in life and they're looking here to find out who amongst these candidates can, you know, help them. that's what they're looking for, and this kind of constant confetti of what they see is small things i think drives a lot of them crazy and that's why his numbers in this case with women went up. >> we'll continue to see. i don't know though if we can call it a constant confetti of
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small things. you surely don't see donald trump talking about the looks of other people on the campaign trail. >> people talk about his hair, you know. why is that okay? just the other day on "the view," one of the hosts was mocking the looks of kim davis and nobody raised an eyebrow. so -- >> that host isn't running for president. >> well -- >> jeffrey lord -- >> the answer here is there's a double standard when it comes to this kind of thing. it's okay for, you know, some people and not others depending on their political viewpoint. that's i think what cuts to the core of some of this and the reaction of people. >> okay. if donald trump doesn't think that his hair should be a topic of conversation, then wouldn't you think he wouldn't want to take on someone else's looks in the next breath. >> and donald trump brags about his hair. we're going to stop this now because we have to move on but among the people who have spoken out against what trump said today, hillary clinton, a democrat and a woman. scott walker, a republican. >> and jeb bush. >> jeb bush, bobby jindal.
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the chorus is growing. david brody, s.e. cupp, jeffrey lord, great to have you with us. >> jeffrey, i want to continue this conversation, too. >> john, good on j.d. tippett. gee wat g he. >> watched the cnn quiz show which i won. >> the cnn republican debate is less than one week from today. you can see it live here on cnn and streamed online live wednesday night september 16th, and today democratic candidate for president bernie sanders is going to be joining wolf blitzer 1:00 p.m. eastern. jeb bush will be on "the lead" with jake tapper at 4:00 p.m. eastern. moments ago the head of the nypd, the commissioner here talked about the mistake, the mistake involving tennis star james blake. was race involved in a takedown? you're going to hear from the commissioner and james blake next.
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recourse and i'm lucky enough to have the opportunity to be sitting here with you to be able to tell this story and let people know this happens too often and most times it's not to someone like me. most cops are doing a great job and keeping us safe, but when you police with reckless abandon, you need to be held accountable. >> want to bring in cnn's boris sanchez and tom birdie, former new york police defendant. boris, let me start with you. what on earth do the plaolice s happened? >> they were trying to bust an identity fraud ring. they say a witness pointed to blake outside his manhattan hotel and that's when these five officers approached him. one of the officers was apparently not wearing a badge, and he didn't really say anything to blake. he just tackled him. that's according to blake. he says that this was unnecessary, that the officer didn't tell him what was going on until much later. the officer only told you we'll tell you soon. in a press briefing that wrapped up a few moments ago, the nypd
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says this was inappropriate and that he was detained inappropriately and handcuffed inappropriately. essentially saying that this should not have happened, and their investigation to prove that blake had no role, that he was totally innocent, the officer has been placed on desk duty. had his gun and badge removed. they're investigating to find out if the use of force was appropriate. they say initially, their initial investigation suggests that it was not used appropriately. they have not spoken to that officer -- >> he was tackled. he was tackled and he didn't do anything. probably not appropriate. >> you would know. we haven't seen the tape. give me all the caveats you're going to, but do you think it was an appropriate use of force? >> this is a guy who knows how to use a backhand. i'm sure they were afraid of that. you had someone who was identified by someone who says -- and according to the police commissioner, he said this could be a dead ringer for his twin brother. you have somebody who was positively identified. the police had good reason to
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get him into custody in connection with this case -- >> do you take him down like that? >> using the element of surprise is always better than saying -- because most people when you ask them, sir, could you please put your manhands 450i7nd youbehind they generally don't. having said that, it appears he may have used more force than was necessary at that point. what's going to happen now being put on modified assignment is not unusual when internal affairs is investigating. again, internal affairs will do their investigation. they will find out via video, via the testimony of the officers and any other witnesses whether or not the force that was used was appropriate and by guidelines and if it wasn't, he will be taken care of appropriately. >> blake is mixed race, right? and blake said in an interview last night, he goes i don't know whether race was a factor. he's trying not to focus on that but a lot of people asking today is -- would this have ever happened to a white guy? would a white -- >> being taken down like this?
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>> who knows. i don't think race was a factor here other than the fact that the person wanted in connection with this investigation was a light-skinned male black. >> bratton called it nonsense. >> to say he was taken down because he was black is nonsense. the fact he was apprehended and he fit the almost identical description that was given to the police is a perfect example of policing 101. when someone identifies someone and says that's the guy, i'm absolutely sure that's the guy, 110%, you can't get any better than that. so the police did have good reason to stop him. now, how they stopped him and apprehended him is a big question mark. >> blake isn't making race part of this but he also isn't taking the commissioner's phone calls. >> true and he's saying it is because an example of excuse sif use of force and that's going to be the investigation we have to follow. >> it's important to point out, we'll never see that picture of the person they were talking about. they got the picture from instagram through a service provider and so because the person that was in the picture apparently was not related to the case we'll actually never be
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able to see the picture of it. we'll only be able to rely on the 2347d who says -- >> the purpose of this stakeout in the beginning is faulty. great to see you. coming up for us, donald trump unleashing on his presidential rival dr. ben carson calling him an okay doctor saying he makes jeb bush look like the energizer bunny. ben carson's business manager, a confidant, a going to be joining us live to respond.
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donald trump hits back questioning the faith and career of his closest competition in the polls right now, dr. ben carson. listen to what trump said this morning right here on cnn. >> i've known ben carson, of him, for a long time. i never heard faith was a big thing until recently -- >> he's a seven day adventist. it's something he talks about a lot. >> and all of a sudden he becomes this great religious figure. i don't think he's a great religious figure, and i saw him yesterday quoting something, he was quoting on humility, and it looked like he had just memorized it about two minutes before he made the quote. so, you know, don't tell me about ben carson -- >> but ben carson is coming at you, too. >> he's starting to hit me so i hit back. i only hit back when i get hit. i'm a great counter puncher, but ben carson, you're talking about his faith -- excuse me, chris -- >> please. >> go back and look at his past and his views on abortion and
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see where he stands. you talk about abortion. i mean, go back and look at his views on abortion. all of a sudden he gets on, very low key. frankly, he looks like -- he makes bush look like the energizer bunny. who is he to question my faith when i am -- you know, he doesn't even know me. i have met him a few times, but i don't know ben carson. he was a doctor, perhaps an okay doctor by the way. you can check that out, too. we're not talking about a great -- he was an okay doct doctor -- >> i don't know about okay doctor. he was the first man to separate conjoined twins. >> because he was a doctor and he hired one nurse, he's going to end up being the president of the united states? he shouldn't be questioning my faith because, number one, i'm leading with the evangelicals. i'm protestant, presbyterian. i have great relationships with the people of iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. he shouldn't be questioning my faith. do you know why? he knows nothing about me. i met him a couple times. >> joining us now to respond,
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armstrong wments, ben carson's business manager a close friend of dr. carson. armstrong, thank you for being with us. let me ask you right off the bat, donald trump said, you know, ben carson is only an okay doctor. questioned his faith. have you had a chance to talk to dr. carson today to see how he feels about this? >> of course. >> what did he tell you? >> listen, first, dr. carson in no way was questioning mr. trump's faith. he would never minimize mr. trump's faith or anyone's faith. it's just not his style. dr. carson was talking about his faith, his faith in god, his humility, and what drives him. obviously these issues are very sensitive to mr. trump, and it appears as though that mr. trump needed a reason to not only attack dr. carson and carly fiorina, and he certainly found an opening to do so because, i
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mean, not just talk about the issue of faith, but the other things that he included in his remarks on cnn was just really disappointing actually for dr. carson. it was really actually sad to hear his statements. >> i got to say, like, someone said i was a lousy journalist, it would kind of tick me off. he called ben carson essentially an okay doctor. any anger from carson? >> of course not. dr. carson in the 18,000 people he has performed surgeries on during his incredible career can speak to that. you know, it's interesting that dr. carson in his conversation with ben terry at the "washington post" this morning apologized if he -- to mr. trump if mr. trump felt that were the case. obviously this has become a media circus where you're pitting candidates against one another. it doesn't happen solve the many
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issues we have going forward. you think about the crisis. we talk about he said/she said, and then you just fly off the handle and respond to it. to us mr. trump, which is very disturbing for us, sounded almost like a school yard bully, that if you say something i don't like, that i'm going to come after you and everything is on the table. and while we have tremendous respect for mr. trump and dr. carson has great admiration for mr. trump and all the candidates, mr. trump should understand that dr. carson is a neurosurgeon, and dr. carson will not be intimidated by mr. trump's words or his hitting below the belt. dr. carson will always challenge mr. trump and anyone else on the issues if he disagrees with them whether it's immigration and what to do with sending people back instead of them remaining here and it will always be a principle position, and so if this is mr. trump's tactic, which was really disturbing to us, dr. carson is more than prepared to talk about the issues, talk about how he would
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move this country forward, and he looks forward to seeing mr. trump next week right here on cnn during the next presidential debate. >> absolutely. let me ask you, on this issue of faith, this came up yesterday. dr. carson was asked about the biggest difference between essentially between donald trump and himself, and he said, i have realized where my success has come from and i don't in any way deny my faith in gord ad and i k that is the big difference. he goes on to say, i don't get that impression, maybe i'm wrong, but i don't get that impression essentially from donald trump. you say that he was not trying to question the faith of donald trump. did dr. carson misspeak then? >> you know, i think it was more an issue of humility and not being boastful and brag dough shus. i know these seem to be very sensitive issues that get someone like mr. trump rhode island up, but it was not
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necessary necessarily about his faith. we can understand how it came across that way after dr. carson revisited what he said and after he realized that he could see how mr. trump could interpret it and being the man he is that's why he apologized to the post. >> he flat out said, i believe in god. i fear the lord. with trump i don't get that impression. really just flat out said that he doesn't believe that trump has the same faith that he does. >> that is certainly the way you guys are interpreting it and spinning it on every frame of the hour and i'm certainly getting great ratings for you but for us dr. carson has said what he needed to say about that issue but there's a deeper issue here in terms of how far mr. trump went in the things that he said not only about dr. carson but about carly fiorina. it's much deeper than the appearance that he was set off by that statement. as though he was waiting for a reason. it seems in the other statements
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he made on cnn when he mentioned that dr. carson, nor carly fiorina could ever become president of the united states, one could wonder whether or not donald trump feels that no one should be in the race except donald trump? it's useless for anybody to show up at the debate next week because in donald trump's mind maybe he believes that he's already won and nothing else needs to be said. >> armstrong williams, stick with us. we'll take a quick break and come back and continue this conversation. thanks so much for joining with us and stick right here with us. we'll be right back here with more with armstrong williams a close confident and business manager of ben carson's right after this. the human foot has always been good at... it's unleashing great power. the is performance line just got a power boost. introducing the lexus is 200 turbo and is 300 awd v6. the is line has never been...
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back with us armstrong williams, a close friend of dr. ben carson, an adviser, a business manager. armstrong is with us responding to this back and forth between ben carson and donald trump, maybe more forth than back depending how you look at it. this morning donald trump questioned ben carson's skills as a doctor, questioned his faith. armstrong, you told us that dr. carson will not be intimidated. the cnn debate six days away right now. what is the best way for dr. carson, for any candidate, how will dr. carson respond to donald trump, a man you just called a schoolyard bully? >> yes. in no way are we trying to
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disrespect mr. trump. dr. carson, as mr. trump has said time and time again, actually thought they would developed some kind of friendship, some kind of understanding, and it was clear from candidate trump this morning that he said he barely knew the man. had no idea who he was. i mean, you can't take those statements lightly in terms of his mentality and how he thinks. and so, you know, you just have to back off and say, whoa, wait a minute, what's going on here? and so -- and he has every right to say that, but, look, we believe that temperament, judgment, calmness, how you communicate is very important to this presidential race. while you may talk about immigration, you may talk about isis and all these other important issues, but discipline and respect for each other. i mean, not referring to carly fiorina in this magazine as ugly. that is not presidential. dr. carson would never do that, and dr. carson will only wish
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well for mr. trump, and we don't want to see mr. trump play into the hands of the media and self-destru self-destruct. he plays a very important role in this presidential election. he's bringing issues like immigration that would not be talked about were it not for him but in all of that, temperament, judgment, how you communicate with journalists whether it's jorge ramos or megyn kelly or what he said to chris cuomo this morning. that's why your ratings are so low. he's beyond that. his advisers need to get their arms around him and say, man, you're to valuable to the process to be communicating like this because you will self-destruct and he will. >> with all of that in mind, mr. williams, i wonder two weeks ago dr. carson on "state of the union" he left the door open, he said he was not ruling out essentially a trump/ben carson ticket. obviously he also followed up and said it's too early to have those discussions, but what has just happened in the past 24 hours, does that change
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>> if there was anything to change, that was a conversation that the press talked to dr. carson about. dr. carson said it was possible. in his mind when he speaks that way, anything is possible. >> but -- so anything is still possible, is all you're saying? >> anything is possible. anything is possible. look. we're not going to take this isolated situation and what mr. trump communicated this morning and say that this is it. we believe he may have been angry. he may have believed what he read in politico. he may have been hurt. he may have been crying out of pain because he felt he did have a closeness with dr. carson and he felt he did question his faith. we could understand that. we're human beings and we can react and say things we regret and take them back. over the next few days, you asked this question earlier, do we plan to reach out to mr. trump? absolutely not. mr. trump should reach out to dr. carson and apologize for
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what he said this morning. and hopefully if he does, dr. carson will reach back, this issue will be settled, and we'll move on to the critical issues of this country. >> fascinating conversation. >> armstrong williams, thank you so much for being with us. we do appreciate your time. a reminder the cnn debate with both donald trump and ben carson six days away. >> thank you so much, mr. williams. before i had the shooting, burning, pins-and-needles of diabetic nerve pain, these feet... ...served my country... ...carried the weight of a family... ...and walked a daughter down the aisle. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. nerve damage from diabetes causes diabetic nerve pain.
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happening now on capitol hill, demonstrators from across the country gathering and demanding new legislation they say to reduce gun violence. this is part of the national whatever it takes day of action. whatever it takes being the pledge of andy parker, father of alison parker shot and killed while reporting in virginia in august. >> he was amongst just some of the people there who also came together yesterday -- take a look at this -- for a truly
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emotional event. 40 family members and survivors all in one room, all in one place at one time, forever linked by the pain of gun violence. they shared their stories of suffering and survival and also what they -- what they want changed. it's part of a special report titled "the loneliest club." look at this. >> my husband, brian kirby, was killed by a man who was diagnosed with schizophrenia. he sent his girlfriend to buy the gun and killed my husband. and that, right away, you have to ask how could a mentally ill person who is a felon on top of that get away with sending his girlfriend to buy the gun, and they still haven't found the gun. and his death has been devastating for me. he was the love of my life.
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>> their pain is so raw. brooke is here with us now. this just happened yesterday. you're doing a whole special on this today. tell us what was it like to be in the room with all of these people? >> i have been in television for 16 years, and have never been part of such a raw meeting of people all part of a club no one wants to be a part of. each person held up a picture of someone they lost or who was injured or they're wondering why that person did survive. it was a tremendous, tremendous evening and historic. never before have they been together in a room and willing to let cameras roll as each of them told their stories, every town for gun safety, 750-plus people have all come together connected by tragedy. and what's incredible, they're banking on doors of members of congress today, and we get into all that have in the special at 3:00 eastern, but it's also the
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hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." i want to begin in baltimore where a judge has ruled that the trials of those six police officers accused in the death of freddie gray are staying right where they were first planned, baltimore. they are not moving to another venue. the defense attorneys say they're worried they can't find impartial jurors in a city that's been just racked with stress over a young man's fatal injuries in the back of a police van. there were violent protests that followed covered widely all over the news. but in his decision to reject that request for a change of venue, at least for now anyway, the judge, barry williams, said this. the citizens of baltimore are not monolithic. they can thinfo


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