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so did joe biden just tell us he is not running for president? remarkably candid, deeply emotional revelations that could change the entire presidential race. and as biden rises in the polls, hillary clinton is falling, but most alarming for her, it's not just against democrats. her lead over republicans vanishing in a new poll. hello, everyone. i'm john berman. >> and i'm kate bolduan. vice president joe biden, raw emotion and really revealing and offering up new doubt on whether he's going to jump into the presidential race. this all happened during an appearance on "the late show" is stephen colbert. he doesn't seem to be holding anything back and he also seems to -- his appearance really seemed to show how biden is
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struggling with this very big decision. >> he talked about his faith, his parents, the still searing pain of losing his beloved son, beau, who died in may of brain cancer. and i want you to listen very closely here because he pretty much flat out says that as of today at least, he doesn't know that he has the wherewithal to run for president. >> look, i don't think any man or woman should run for president unless, number one, they know exactly why they would want to be president, and, two, they can look at folks out there and say, i promise you you have my whole heart, my whole soul, my energy, and my passion to do this, and i'd be lying if i said that i knew i was there.
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i went out to denver and i landed at a military base and i met a whole group of military families, which is not unusual on a rope line about 100 yards from the aircraft, and about two-thirds were in uniform, the other were family members. and i was think thanking them and i really meant it. this 1% is fighting for 99% of the rest of us. i was talking about them being the backbone and sinew of this country and all of a sudden it was going great and a guy in the back yells, major beau biden, bronze star, sir. served with him in iraq. and all of a sudden i lost it. how could you -- i mean, that's not -- i shouldn't be saying this, but that -- you can't do that. >> we're going to have much more on that in just a moment, but first there are also some new polls out overnight showing hillary clinton's lead is shrinking and joe biden is
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gaining. let's bring in senior political correspondent brianna keilar for more on this. if confirmation was needed, this democratic primary is competitive. >> reporter: oh, it has gotten to be so and the clinton campaign, kate, has always said it was going to be competitive. i'm not sure that they wanted it this competitive. look at these numbers here. when you're looking at what democrats and democratic leaning voters say about their choice. 37 points for hillary clinton. you say, well, look, she's 10 points ahead of bernie sanders. true, but this is the closest that he has gotten to her nationally, so this is of concern, and you see joe biden at 20 points. he's gone up several points just here in the last month. then take a look at what the campaign is really looking at. they are geared in on these early states like new hampshire and like iowa. bernie sanders for the first time this week topping hillary clinton in this quinnipiac university poll for likely democratic caucusgoers in iowa.
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this is, of course, of concern for the clinton campaign and they're really trying to minimize some of the numbers. take a look at the republican size of things. it shows us that what is really being solidified here is this lead that donald trump has, and also this position by ben carson in second place. he's up there as well. 27% for donald trump. that is an enviable position when you look at the third place here being ted cruz. and jeb bush at 6%, and then not even on the screen there, this is very telling, is scott walker. when you look at him in iowa polls, it is just stunning what we have seen, just a dive since july when he was leading at 18%. no longer. he is at 3% now. that is just -- that is a nose dive there, kate and john. >> i'm old enough to remember when scott walker was all in in iowa, when scott walker was the one to beat there. brianna keilar, thank you so much.
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i want to bring in our political commentators paul begala and paul hye. i want to go back to the joe biden interview with stephen colbert. it's absolutely riveting. listen again to one part that is very telling. he talks about how if you're going to run for president you need to have 110% of all your heart and soul in it, and this is what he said. listen. >> i'd be lying if i said that i knew i was there. >> every time i watch that, paul, i just keep asking myself, did joe biden just tell us that he's not running for president? >> i wouldn't overinterpret it though, john. i watched the tape of the vice president in pittsburgh at the labor day rally in front of steel workers, they're cheering and chanting, run, joe, run. i know joe biden for 29 years. this is a very authentic guy going through a really
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researching decision. now, you know but our viewers should know i advise a super pac that's trying to elect hillary clinton so i'm going to be for hillary for the end but i'm still a human being and i love joe biden and he's a terrific guy. even the people who are for hillary need to give him the time and space to make the right decision. >> doug, what are republican insiders saying about that this morning? what are you guys hearing in this joe biden? >> well, let me say, first of all, john mentioned my old boss, eric cantor. when eric cantor lost a primary in june of last year, one of the first people to call the majority leader and wish him well and talk to him was joe biden. that's the kind of guy that joe biden is. he cares about people. he cares about people regardless of whether they're republicans for democrats and that shows. one of the things i heard from a lot of people last night e-mailing in between commercial breaks, the really raw and emotional and great television, was what a contrast we're
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seeing. hillary clinton's campaign last week said after 23 years in public life, she's finally going to show her human and her humorous side and actually have some planned rigid spontaneity involved. for joe biden for his entire public life, we have seen the heart and soul of that man. it's why so many people on both sides, whether they agree with him on this issue or that issue, everybody likes and respects joe biden because he's just such a good person. shows this real grace that's rare in american politics. >> i want to defend my friend here. i know them both very well. she's a very intensely private person. it is more difficult for her. she does not wear her heart on her sleeve the way vice president does or the way president bill clinton does. she's intensely private and this is what tees me off as we say, she showed a little emotion the other day. she gave an interview to david muir of abc and she talked about
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her mother who was the load star of her life. she didn't cry but she -- >> she got emotional. >> and the haters, but a lot of people came out and said that's phony, that's inauthentic. it's just harder for her to show her emotioning as and that's something people either hate it or love it. she's a more private person than her husband or many other politicians. >> but joe biden's brand -- >> mechanically we would agree you don't talk about doing it, you just do it. so now we all look at it through a cynical political lens because her campaign said this is a campaign strategy. it's not hillary being hillary. >> that's right. and i suspect the high command of her campaign and especially hillary herself was furious with that story but you're right about that. you don't talk about your strategy. just do it. my analogy has been -- i guess i had my first date with my wife in the first reagan term and when you're trying to woo a girl you don't say i'm going to blow
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in your nose. >> blow on your nose now? >> on your ear. you blow -- you do -- i don't know. but you don't telegraph -- >> your wife is a very special woman that she -- >> the authentic paul begala right there. >> i want to move on to save you, paul, from this moment right now. it occurs to me we all say that joe biden has to decide by october 1st. joe biden himself has sort of hinted he wants to decide by the end of the month. but in all honesty, isn't his one path to the presidency the idea that hillary clinton somehow implodes, that somehow things get worse? i know, paul, you don't think it will but just play the hypothetical game with me now. i'll start with doug so i get an answer out of this. but if hillary implodes, could joe biden jump in in november then? couldn't he keep his powder dry? couldn't he continue to say i'm not in it right now but i'm going to wait and see what happens? >> doug, you want to go first or do you want me to get that? >> doug? >> well, sure, i'll go first. i think politically the smartest
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move for biden is to wait to see if there's a hillary collapse, and there may be, there may not be. certainly republicans have their own problems which we have talked about a lot but i think with hillary these poll numbers show her real vulnerability and show why this e-mail story has been going on for months, has been so disastrous for her campaign. since february hillary clinton has not been able to engage democratic primary voters on the issues she wants to and have the conversation she wants to. meanwhile, bernie sanders is having the exact conversation he wants to have with democratic primary voters and it's showing. it's early but it's showing. >> the data are clear here, they are clear. democrats are not rejecting hillary. they want a race. they are embracing a race, a contest. she's dropped in the vote against bernie sanders, there's no doubt, and he is leading. those polls are accurate. he's leading in iowa and new hampshire. her favorable remains 71 in the des moines register poll. her favorable remains high. in our cnn poll she has the
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highest enthusiasm -- >> it's down from what it was. >> of course it's down from what it was. it was like 200%. >> you did say it was baloney at the time. >> they're embracing bernie who is running a hell of a good campaign, a lot of energy and a lot of good ideas. there's a huge difference here. her favorables are still very high, enthusiasm is very high. that's going to be the nominee, she's going to be the president. berman, pick out your dress for the inaugural ball. >> i can't wait to see that. i will get to wear a suit for once in my life. it will be wonderful. >> i look good in heels. >> doug heye, you can only wait to hope and see that. paul, it's great to see you. >> guys, do not miss the republican president ideal debate. it's right here on cnn next wednesday starting at 6:00 p.m., and, of course, the main stage at 8:00 p.m. eastern. donald trump, you know what? his numbers rising among women. hillary clinton's numbers
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dropping all around. and right now carly fiorina, that candidate who had her face criticized by donald trump, she is speaking live for the first time since that criticism was published. will she jab back? >> good question. and also this ahead for us in a short time. inside the horror. for the first time we are seeing images of the movie theater shooting inside that aurora movie theater, from the theater seats to the killer's booby trapped apartment. and also this, 14 years ago this morning families waited and a nation stopped in shock as the world changed forever. ♪ ♪
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any minute now we are waiting and expecting to hear from the republican presidential candidate carly fiorina. she is speaking at an event in arizona. of course, the big question this morning, is she going to bring up donald trump? will she mention him by name or at all after the insults he lobbed her way. here is how she responded to the insult about her face or depending what you hear from donal donald, not so much last night. >> what do you take that to mean, look at that face, would anyone vote for that? >> i have no idea. you know, honestly, megyn, i'm
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not going to waste a single cycle wondering what donald trump meant because maybe i'm getting under his skin a little bit. >> she's going to get a chance to face off, pun intended, with donald trump at the republican debate in five days and it will be a key moment for both of their campaigns. >> joining us is talk about this is jeffrey lord, former adviser to ronald reagan, and charmaine yost, formerly of the huckabee campaign. i think you're very impressed with carly fiorina right now and her campaign. how big of a deal is this -- i won't call it back and forth because it's mostly one way with donald trump, but how big of a deal is this face controversy? >> i think it's a really big deal, and it's actually turning out to be a plus for carly because i don't expect her to mention it. she has really risen to the occasion here and proved how gracious she is and how she's sticking to the issues. i think it's a net negative for
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donald trump because he's developing a real problem with women. people keep talking about how it's not hurting him in the polls but it's a lagging indicator of what's going on with women in the country as they're responding to hit after hit after hit of seeing donald trump say things that are really offensive to women in general. >> you think it's going to catch up with him, charmaine, at some point? in the most recent poll his popularity among women, donald trump's is till -- it's only going up. he's plus four from august to september. he's at 41%. >> he's leading among women. >> this is the thing, women are starting to pay attention to the race. it's fall now. we had kind of a silly summer with different anecdotes that happened and he's developing a critical mass of things he's said about women, and this thing with carly was really, really offensive, and his response to it was very clintonian. well, i didn't mean her face, i meant something else entirely, and women see this. it was the same thing with his
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attack on megyn. he kind of tried to design the terms differently than what he actually said, and i don't think women buy that kind of thing. >> i guess it depends on what the definition of face is in this case. jeffrey lord, bring us to next wednesday night because you know this is going to come up or i suspect it will come up. donald trump's treatment of women, the other candidates i'm sure are sure to bring it up even if carly fiorina doesn't. so how should donald trump respond? what should he say? >> well, i don't know what he'll say. you know, he should just stick to his guns here. i disagree with my old friend and colleague charmaine there, i just think this whole deal is sexist and condescending to women. to say that women can't be treated equally as men and they're in some sort of protected class is wrong. we passed these barriers decades ago -- >> but jeffrey -- >> suddenly -- >> hang on one second. >> that -- >> jeffrey, donald trump himself -- >> that megyn kelly incident,
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his numbers went up with women and i think there's a reason for that. women are not one-dimensional characters here and they don't take offense like this. carly fiorina herself insulted her own opponent barbara boxer on her physical appearance. oh, god, what is that hair, so yesterday. so she attacks her opponent's physical appearance. if you're going to go down this road, i think it's a mistake. >> jeff, i just don't think -- the difference is that women are looking at this as him taking a cheap shot at women, and he does it continuously. i have to disagree with you really strenuously because i think he's doing this at least somewhat deliberately. as you said, he's a smart man. he's a canny and strategic person. i don't think it's an off-the-cuff remark, and for him to take a jab -- >> why is it not okay to do it to women but it's okay to do it to men? >> do you know -- you know, i have heard you make that point, jeff, and i disagree with you there as well. with donald and his hair and people saying you can't take a jab at his hair, he himself jabs
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at his hair. he uses his hair as a branding device. so it's something entirely different than women who have -- we've lived our whole lives with people taking jabs at appearance. >> women take jabs at other women's appearance. carly fiorina herself did this. >> it's different -- it is different for donald trump though to be in an interview setting do. >> reporter: no, no, not in an equal world. >> and to say i'm not going to vote for her because of her face. >> let me ask you both about this. donald trump was on fox news last night and greta van susteren, she took it to him and really kind of held him to account and asking was he -- he again tried to say he was not talking about her face around she said this is a long list of kind of insults you've lobbed at women, and here is how he responded. he says it's about entertainment. >> many of those comments are made as an entertainer because i did "the apprentice," it was one of the top shows on television. he di sided not to do it again
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because i wanted to run for president but some comments are made as an entertainer and as everybody said, as an entertainer is a much different ball game. >> i know you think this has been blown out of proportion, especially in terms of the pc realm, jeffrey, but do you think that's an okay answer, to chalk it up to he's trying to be entertaining? >> sure, sure. i mean -- >> come on. >> the presumption is we really believe in the equality of the sexes. do we or don't we? if we don't, then these are offensive, but if we do, then this is just no big deal. and, you know, frankly when you see the numbers -- one of the other numbers from that cnn poll is that women thought the economy was either extremely important or very important, and the numbers for that were 91%. i mean, i think that's what they're concerned about. they're not concerned about, you know, donald trump making some entertaining remark. they really believe, as do i, in the equality of the sexes. i think just this whole deal
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reveals a sort of sexist streak in our society that women -- you know, we're back in victorian days or 1953 and you can't say this because somehow this is insulting and yet carly fiorina herself can do it. president obama running for president said of sarah palin, you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig and his audience laughed and cheered because he was insulting sarah palin. he's been elected president twice. i just -- you know -- >> jeff -- >> this is exactly the point. he is running for president. he said repeatedly he wants to be taken seriously. if you want to be taken seriously as a leader of the free world, you don't say that you're running for entertainer in chief. if that's what he wants to do, then this is an okay strategy, but, you know, talking to "rolling stone," that's his opportunity to elevate his language and show he can be a leader, particularly here in the week of 9/11 when this is a very serious time in our country. he put out a tweet this morning that he had to delete that was
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really offensive. if he does want to be taken seriously, he needs to act seriously, and -- >> but he is being taken seriously as these polls show. >> and that's why i'm taking this comment seriously and saying it's not elevating people. >> we will all see how seriously it will be taken next wednesday night. charmaine, jeffrey, speak no more. thank you both very much. >> great to see you both. again, to reiterate, the gop debate, it is coming up right here on cnn wednesday at 6:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. eastern. i am looking forward to see if carly fiorina, what one-liner carly fiorina has on this face comment. new fears of a copycat after more shots are fired at cars on a highway in arizona. are there now more snipers on the loose?
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to go the distance with you. go long. new in morning, a possible sniper who has been shooting at vehicles along a busy stretch of interstate in 10 has struck again or maybe not. there's new fears of a copycat. two additional shootings on other roadways could be the work of a copycat. right now they're treating these as a separate case. >> there have been 11 shootings within 2 weeks on interstate 10. luckily only one minor injury we know of. police have no suspects, no clues. cnn's sara sidner is live from phoenix right now. sara, i covered a similar thing like this in columbus and one of
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the biggest fears alomong law enforcement was the idea of copycat shooting. this is the very thing they've been worried about there. >> reporter: right. that's exactly right. 11 shootings they have confirmed, and that included one from yesterday but there were two yesterday that happened off of i-10 on other highways, and a source with knowledge of the investigation told me, look, we are looking at those as potential copycats, and so there is a lot of concern by drivers, as you can imagine. they don't care if it's copycats or if this is the work of a serial shooter. that means there may be two or more people out there taking potshots at drivers as they fly down interstate 10, one of the busiest highways in arizona and across the country. one of the country's longest going from florida to california. there is a lot of concern among folks here and law enforcement itself saying that they are very, very worried that this is going to eventually seriously hurt someone or potentially even kill someone. we know that they've been asking for the public's help.
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they have been imploring the public to call with tips, and they are getting hundreds of calls according to the head of dps. i want to let you hear there is one group out there that is armed to the teeth and they're coming out here and they are completely and utterly putting all their focus on trying to find who the shooter is. >> first thing we're going to do is we're going to call our dps contact immediately, and i guarantee you there's going to be people around here so fast that you couldn't even blink. >> reporter: but they are very clear they are in contact with the authorities to make sure that the authorities know they're out there, because they're armed and some folks might see them and think maybe they have something to do with it. they are out here every night, a dozen people or more, looking for this potential serial shooter. john? >> sara sidner, thank you so much. got to be enormous concern for all the drivers out there. absolutely.
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coming up next for us. an interview you don't want to miss. we'll speak live to the man who ran joe biden's presidential campaign in 2008. his take on biden's riveting interview on "the late show" last night. did biden essentially tell us he's not going to run? we'll ask. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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new 3-d touch screen for the iphone. >> but not everything. what about bendable screens? >> what? >> one tech company is working on that design right now. cnn's samuel burke takes a look. >> reporter: this isn't a trick. this screen is meant to be twisted, bent, even rolled up. start up polly era spend ten years developing the new technology. the real break through is what's behind the screen. how do you make the screens you produce bend? wr >> we start with new electronic materials. what you see is a bottle of these electronic materials but we can then actually turn those into the building blocks of electronics. so these are tran cyst si sis f. >> it's not bending the screen that's the hard part. it's everything that's in the screen. that's what's hard to make bend. >> it's all those layers of different materials, and some of the hardest materials are the
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almost tr electronically materials to make bend. >> it uses black and white e-paper technology which is thin, durable, and energy efficient. they're putting the screens to use in a wearable it calls the wove band slated to roll out next year. what's your vision? >> here you see an early stage prototype. it's the device in a flat state but you can change its shape and put it around your wrist. i will change the image. it's fully touch enabled. of course, you could customize it. >> no wearable has become mainstream yet and even if wove doesn't, the technology behind it may bend our future. samuel burke, cnn, san francisco. >> our thanks to samuel. this morning so many people inside and outside the political world are talking about joe biden's appearance with stephen colbert. did he hint that he is not running for president? this was deeply personal about his faith and the loss of his
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son. listen to this. >> a couple months before he died, i was at his house, and he said, dad, sit down. i want to talk to you with his wife. incredible kid. and he said, dad, i know how much you love me. you've got to promise me something, promise me you're going to be all right because no matter what happens, dad, i'm going to be all right. promise me. this is a kid who -- i don't know what it was about him. he had this enormous sense of empathy, and i know i maybe sound like a father. >> he does sound like a father, and that's exactly what he should sound like in talking about his son. let's discuss this further. let's bring in louis navarro, biden's 2008 presidential campaign manager. louis thank you so much for joining us. you can see in every clip we show, you can see this is joe biden wearing his emotions on his sleeve. we know this about joe biden,
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this is how he is, but he's really struggling not only understandably with the death of his son but with this big question before him. and that interview last night has a lot of people asking is joe biden essentially telling us that he isn't there, he doesn't have it right now, that he's not running? what are you wearing? >> well, i think the secret to the vice president is what you see is what you get. and he is clearly dealing with a tragedy that is the worst nightmare of any parent and having to do so in a very public way, but he has done so with grace and with humility, and i think that he articulated it quite well in terms of his appearance last night, that he even empathizes all the more with people who have faced even greater struggles and don't have the kind of support that he obviously enjoys as vice president. so i think what you saw last
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night is the vice president at his -- as he is. >> and, look, on both sides of the islaisle, you hear people s they have looked to joe biden as a source of strength in difficult times dealing with pain. he's a pillar for so many in these types of situations, but you say here is a guy you have to listen to, and you take him at his word when he says something. so i watch what he said last night, and at a minimum, at a minimum what he was telling me last night was that if he had to decide today, he wouldn't run. >> well, i think there have been articles in which it has been written that the vice president himself has said things and i think he clearly articulated that last night that he has good days and bad days, and i think this is why, you know, making this decision is going to be deeply personal, and, you know, he also indicated that he wants to be able to -- you know, that
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anyone who would choose to make such a decision needs to be able to have a clear idea as to what they intend to do as well as giving 110%. i'm confident that the vice president would be able to easily address the first, but, you know, again, i think he is clearly dealing with the latter, and that is that will be the key to this decision. >> luis, you not only know joe biden so well, you know jill biden so well, and she is crucial in this decision. what would you advise him right now on what to do and knowing him and knowing where they are in their grieving process? >> oh, i wouldn't presume to provide advice, certainly not in a forum like this. what i think is the case is that they will make a decision together. they'll make it as part of a family, which is at the core of who the vice president is and always has been, and i think
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that, you know, whatever choice he chooses to make, he will do so only if he is absolutely confident that it is the best choice not only for the country but also for his family. >> and he says he's not confident right now. i mean, that's for sure, he's not confident right now. >> every day can be different in that whole process. luis, it's great having you on. thanks so much. >> thank you. all right. coming up next, what a wonderful game it was. the new england patriots, they won the season debut on their home field convincingly, but what -- >> a little bit of help maybe? >> what do we have now? we have sour grapes. teams complaining, oh, my headset didn't work. i was getting a radio station. >> i couldn't have this classic thing required to run a football team. >> so is this for real or is this just more anti-patriot whining? we'll discuss.
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another game, another controversy surrounding the patriots. the season opener -- i get such a kick out of these. coy read them a-- i could read all day long. the season opener was a win for the patriots but off the field, not so much. mike tomlin said he and other
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keac coaches were hearing patriots radio in their headsets. here is what tomlin said. >> it's always the case. >> here? >> yes. we were listening to the patriots radio broadcast for the majority of the first half on our headsets. >> look, the patriots radio broadcast could have called better plays than he called in the first half. >> that's not what the teleprompter said. >> nfl which controls the statements said the pittsburgh coaches experienced interference why h in their headsets caused by stadium power infrastructure issue, which was exacerbated by the inclement weather. once the power issue was addressed, the equipment functioned properly with no additional issues. dale, when i heard these
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allegations, my first thought was come on. do you really think with the whole world watching, the whole world except for you and i, dale, essentially saying the patriots were cheaters, that they would go and screw around with the radiohe headsets? >> it's nice to talk to john representing the six new england states and kate representing the rest of america on this deal. the fact of the matter is you're right. even if the patriots were of a mind to do this sort of thing, and they're not, this would probably be the single dumbest time to do it in the history of football. patriot fans are feeling put upon. patriots coach bill uncharacteristically addressed things like that during the conversation call. he's mad, he's fed up with that. mike tomlin ought to have asked about the antonio brown option pass and get better
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communication with his offensive coordinator. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> that's not what i'm talking about. this is what i'm talking about. on the steelers' official website, dale, they even go as for to write about that strangely enough whenever the nfl representative went over to the new england sideline to tell them to shut off their headsets -- i didn't know there was a rule that had to do with that. if you can't hear the other team should take their headsets off, the steelers' headsets would miraculously clear up and then as they walked away the headsets would once again hear the patriots' radio. it's on the internet so it must be true. >> i watch cnn a fair amount. i know how cnn would source stories. i assume they need a little more sourcing for this story than what the steelers website offered up which was rumor, innuendo, no source, no quote, and i'm sort of wondering if somebody made it up to be honest with you. >> just confirm to me, who won the game? >> let me just think here, 28,
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patriots -- oh, yeah, the patriots within. four touchdown passes, tom brady. three touchdown catches rob g n gronkows gronkowski, i assume because the steelers couldn't communicate properly. >> ei'm just saying all the guy on the floor they can't hear because their headsets are hearing your radio show. i don't know what's going on. >> thank you for being with us. >> coming up for us, donald trump rising in support with women. right now the carly fiorina, the rival whose face donald trump criticized, she is speaking live for the first time since then, sin h since his latest jab. is she going to jab back? oh, we'll see.
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republican presidential candidate carly fiorina speaking right now in arizona. >> you will remember donald trump talked about her face. well, just moments ago, carly fiorina seemed to make a comment that appeared to be a little bit of a jan at donald trump. listen. >> we need a president who understands what leadership is. leadership is not about the size of your office, the size of your airplane, the size of your helicopter. it's not about your title. it's not about your ego. leadership is about service. >> there's only one candidate with his own airplane and helicopter. >> that would be one donald j. trump. it's "j." right?
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