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watched the crowd here lean up against the fences that are around the grandstands here. every one of them pushing forward with a phone or a camera in their hands to capture this moment. you're watching now as you can see that red carpet about to roll out. was interesting, about an hour ago, we saw them roll out the red carpet. we thought, they rolled out the red carpet. that was a practice run. they have practiced everything to a tee here, including that perfectly lined up honor guard you're seeing there as well. they want to get this right. it's a special moment. it's a historic moment. and we've heard the crowd as well quiet down a little bit. they've been singing, they've been cheering, praying, playing pharrell songs, coldplay songs, high school band here. now a moment of silence. perhaps knowing what they're about to see, and just angling for a chance to see it. we've got a remarkable seat here. i have to tell you, jake, i've seen official visits before, i haven't seen one quite like this.
>> father rosica, the english language media attache for the vatican, tell us what this moment is look for you. you know the pope. you've been part of the planning for this moment. >> it's an extraordinary moment. the joy is palpable, not only here, the joy in philadelphia, as we're waiting here, thousands, 17,000 delegates the world meeting of families watching this great event in philadelphia. the people of new york, very very happy that he's coming. what's happening here is, for the whole world. the world is watching this particular visit. for me personally, the holy father is the vicar of christ. he's our leader. he's our shepherd. when you know the shepherd, it makes an even bigger difference. his simplicity, authenticity, revolution of tenderness he spoke about in cuba and this revolution of normalcy that he's ushered in because what he's doing is the work of a pastor.
he's with people. he walks with people the archdiocese of washington at this pascal plan, walk with francis as they prepare to welcome him. the preparation in washington under cardinal wuerl's leadership outstanding. >> father, your colleague, archbishop joseph kurtz said the pope is, quote, coming as a pastor of souls and a prophet, not a politician. the pope is not shy about sharing his views on what catholics should think of political issues and what scripture dictates. what do you think he plans to say to congress, do you think? >> earlier this week, the play book of the visit is the language of the gospel, the language of a pastor, but whenever we apply that language and the gospel to life, it's
eneverybody vittbly involves politics because politics is the way that we deal with one another and we deal with the world. the pope is coming to wake us up, to take responsibility for our brothers and sisters. the pope is coming to remain us of the sacredness and the dignity of human life. he's also coming to speak to us about the future of the family, the future of humanity that passes through the family. that wonderful expression of st. john paul ii. the future of humanity passes through the family. the pope is coming to bless all of those situations, to stir us up and, yes, there will be political ramifications because that means people are listening and people act upon his words. he's not just coming for a series of photo opportunities here. now we see the first part of the delegation coming down the plane, the papal photographer, lined up on the runway there, on the red carpet, representatives of the american bishops conference. the first to go up the stairs of the plane will be the
apostolic -- >> we're hearing -- father, father we're looking right now at these images, father rosica of president obama, with his daughters. jim sciutto, tell us what you're seeing from your vantage point. we see the president and the first family arriving right now. what else is going on there that you can see? >> well, i tell you, someone walking in front of them, jake, with two umbrellas because just as the pope landed, a light drizzle began to fall. they're prepared but no one, it's not bothering anyone at this point. of course behind the president you have the vice president with two of his granddaughters and his wife, dr. jill biden, walking up. you'll have this rare moment with the president, vice president, and the pope, leader of the catholic church, all on the same red carpet for this unprecedented, this truly unprecedented, official welcome for a world leader to the u.s.
>> jim sciutto, it's just -- you can feel the gravity of this moment, the history of it. i can't imagine what it's like where you are on the tarmac. tell us what it's like. >> reporter: i have to tell you, jake, i'm about 20 yards from the pope and the president right now, you see the smile on his face. it reflects the energy of a man who inspires so many around the world, catholic or not. we've had a small sample of that here in the relatively small crowd here, by the standards of this trip, some 300 or so kids here, a couple of hundred adults. seeing thousands and tens of thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands at other stop as long the way remember as the pope shakes the hands of the
luminaries escorted by the president and vice president and the first lady, remember, with this pope, this is probably his least favorite part of the trip. he's going to want to go shake the hands of the children. he's going to want to eat, as he will tomorrow with homeless people. that's where the pope is in his elements. you hear the screams of the some of the children here just now. it's an energy pent up these last couple of hours. they've been -- they've been waiting for the moment to do this. just the welcome he wants. >> there are the schoolchildren, we've been told students one, three, five, seven from catholic schools in the washington, d.c., area, presenting his holiness with flowers. what a remarkable moment. >> reporter: jake, one other
thing i'll add. >> yes, jim? >> reporter: is just this is a serious security event, as you know. a cat of thousands to keep him safe. i've been seeing a lot of smiles on the faces of the secret service here. they know they're witnessing a special moment as well. >> what's next on the docket for the pope after this arrival ceremony, jim? >> reporter: he's going to get a private meeting, jake, with the president and his family, a quiet moment, just the president there, the pope, his two daughters and of course the first lady with the white house photographer. you can also see the first lady's mother just behind her there. he's going to have that quiet moment before he then proceeds to downtown d.c. >> president obama has met with pope francis before in march 2014. they had a private meeting. they are said to have an
excellent relationship. and tomorrow, they will be discussing items where they can work together, items on which they agree. obviously catholic theology disagrees with president obama on his views on abortion, same-sex marriage, birth control. but on issues such as climb change, on issues such as poverty, on issues such as immigration, not to mention cuba policy, there is a lot of agreement between president obama and his holiness. delia gallagher our vatican correspondent joins me here in the studio. obviously you see this man more often than we do. what strikes you? >> well, the first thing i think is this is a very humble man, and i wonder what he makes and what he will make of all of the fanfare which he's about to receive in the way that only americans can do it. he's never been to this country,
he's 78 he'll be 79 in december, and he's got a grueling schedule, and americans know how to pull out the red carpet for him. and that's what we're seeing. and i just wonder, is -- from a south american country, he has certain ideas about our country. and i'm curious to see, after this trip, i hope somebody will ask him on the way back, what he thinks and what he's made of it all. this is not a usual papal trip for him, because it's a long one and it's -- it's really big compared to a lot the other ones. >> the pope and the president have just ducked into the building there at andrews. they will talk for about ten minutes and then he'll come back out. just to update everyone tuning in, as to what the plan is, we do expect to see the pope in about fibe ve or ten minutes. this is an historic time. delia, i don't need to tell you, this is the first pope born outside of europe in something
like a thousand years, more than a thousand years i believe. so the fact that he is from south america, though his parents from italy originally, is quite consequence and important. he wants to talk about immigration. >> well, it's important in the way it's shaped him and his understanding, therefore, of the economic system, for example, of the world and of capitalism. we know that he's critiqued capitalism and that's been formed by where he has lived and who he is. >> these are pictures, just to interrupt for a second, pictures from just a few minutes ago. just to -- just to bring this special moment back for viewers, if they are just tuning in or want to see it again. >> but the other point is that he's a spanish speaker. the growing population here of catholics are spanish speakers, and large part of the world are spanish speakers.
he just was in cuba. you know, that's no small thing when talking about a pope. that's really a big first, that he will be able to communicate to these people in their language and come from that kind of a cultural background which is not european. and that has consequences for everything politically and theologically if you will, even within the catholic church. >> not the first pope to visit cuba, but the first one to speak to cubans in their native tongue. interesting that you're talking about how the pope's world view and view of economics are definitely a product of his upbringing in south america, a church source told cnn, quote, when pope francis speaks to slums in south america, he's talking to the footprint, when he speaks to the united states, he's talking to the boot. that is an interesting metaphor, certainly not how the united states views itself. >> yeah. yeah, let's not take it too far because, of course, he is
representing catholic social teaching as well. i mean, popes before pope francis spoken about and critiqued excessive capitalism, certainly john paul ii and benedict going back to the last century we've had that. it's not just the fact he's south american but that is influential and what he says about the consumer culture and the throwaway culture and so on is linked also to a holistic view that he has of the family, of social justice problems. it's all linked for the pope. >> of course this is a pope who walks the walk. this is a pope who lives that life, that acetic life of denial, poverty, taking the bus, living humbly. i want to go to rosa flores, who as you know was on the papal plane, asked the pope a question while flying from cuba to the united states.
rosa, tell us more now that you've gotten your bearings a little bit about the pope, about this moment for him, about what you saw. >> reporter: well, it was definitely a remarkable moment. we took off from santiago, cuba, and moments after we got off the ground pope francis came to the back of the plane and took five, six questions from journalists. you know, very calmlying he looks at you in the eye and thinks about his answers and then responds. he's spoken in spanish and also in italian. no english, jake, we haven't heard him speak english yet. we anticipate him to be speaking english before he speaks before congress. the headline from the plane, he got a question about him being a lefty or a communist priest and he said, that's not right. everything that i have always said is one with the social doctrine of the church. he said even the economic
imperialism doctrine that i preach is in line with the social doctrine of the church, about the embargo. he said, he's not going to mention the embargo when he speaks before congress. he said that that was not going to be in the speech that he already wrote the speech and that he was not going to tell us what that was going to be on the plane. but he said he was going to talk about bilateral and multilateral agreements and how that is a sign of progress. now, jake, you're asking me earlier about the dissidents because of reports of dissidents arrested in havana, right after a mass and also at where the pope stays whenever he makes foreign visits. the pope didn't have knowledge of these arrests and when i followed up that question and said, what would you tell them, holy father, if you had the opportunity to speak with dissidents? and he said, i don't know, i
don't know what i would tell them. but i of course wish everyone well. so that i would say, jake, are the highlights of that press conference. but you know, he said he's happy to visit the united states and we of course saw him smiling, coming down the -- that plane and meeting with president obama moments ago. >> this is the 50th anniversary of the first ever papal visit to the united states this day when pope paul vi in 1965 came to the united states being the first pope to do so. today's pope is the fourth. it is a rare and remarkable moment. i'd like to bring in, if i could, cnn religion comment tate somewhere catholic priest, father edward beca. you were tearing up when his holiness stepped off the plane. tell us what this moment means to you personally.
>> well, jake, i was thinking, here's a man who never has been to this country and he's a simple man, as we've heard, he's probably more comfortable in the slums of buenos aires, in brazil and here he is entering the quarters of power of our country and as delia mentioned, i think he's probably not all that comfortable with it. but i think what we're going to hear if i could use a scripture passage that i think would be the epitome of this visit, it would be to whom a lot has been given, a lot is expected. i think that's the challenge he's going to give the united states. you're the richest country in the world. a country of opportunity, a country that can make a difference. will you make that difference in the world? will you give back what you've been given? >> father beck, let me ent rupt you for a second. i want to alert viewers, seeing live pictures of the pope and the first family, president obama, first lady michelle
obama, and obviously uniformed secret service -- u.s. secret service walking from the building. i think that president obama will be escorting the pope to his car though given the pope and his love of going to crowds, who knows what he's about to do right now. father beck, i'm sorry for interrupting. please continue. >> i wanted to say, i don't think there's any finger wagging. i think what we'll see this pope, especially when he speaks to congress will praise the liberty of the united states, the democracy, the opportunity, the plurality all we are as a nation but call us beyond that. we've been given so much as a country, how can we help those in need? he'll speak to the refugee problem in the world. can we accept more refugees than we are in i don't think he will shy away from addressing them. >> jim sciutto, on the tarmac there, we've been talking about
this pope and his love of running to crowds, complicated, shall we say, the security mission that so many uniformed and other law enforcement and national security officials have right now. what's going on where you are right now? >> no question. he's just -- the president shaking his hand, as i'm sure you're seeing now, before he gets -- before the pope gets into his own motorcade. the crowd bursting the fences really, trying to get closer to him. i've got to tell you, he's probably fighting every bone in his body to not walk over to that crowd now and embrace and shake hands, as they clear for him. just one other detail, notice the car that the pope was getting into. no fancy limousine, no big gmc suburban, but that, jake tapper, is a fiat, italian-made fiat, a simple car, and the license plate, scv1, vatican city i, i'm
told, who else would have that license plate but pope francis? >> delia gallagher, vatican correspondent, this is -- this pope, i think they picked the right car for him, a fairly -- for this town, that is a very humble car. >> yeah. yeah. it's a new looking one. i'm surprised -- >> it's not nice, but in a town where they have huge tank limousines and. svs, to have a modest fiat, i'm sure there are upgrades to it we don't know about, says something. >> by italian standards, that's a big car. >> we're not in rome anymore. >> the pope doesn't want too much fanfare, as we've been saying. he's chatting with the driver. i don't know -- >> is this the car he normally travels? >> no. i've never seen this car before. i think they've done it up over
here. >> for those not superfamiliar, not extremely knowledgeable about this pope, tell us about how he practices what he preaches, literally in terms of the life he leads and how he does not like all of these trappings of power. >> i think the first clue that everybody had that this was a different pope was that seemingly radical decision they took not to live into the papal apartments, right? and he chose to live in what used to be a hotel and still is, to some extent, it's very small, regular kind of room. and he has a second room where his study, and other people live there, and come in and pass by and visit, and it's on the grounds, outside of where the pope and some other cardinals
usual live in the pap stolic palace. he lives in -- >> some of the things that we've seen him do, in terms of when facing crowds, seeking out the sick, seeking out people disabled, embracing them, physically embracing them, nothing scheduled, nothing planned, seeing them in the crowd, approaching them. >> well, he does that. and he's done a whole lot at the vatican for the homeless. he's put up showers. he has barbers, he gives money, not he himself but he has a priest whose job it is to hand money out, and -- >> the day he took -- he assumed the papacy, he washes the feet of orphans? remember? >> i don't remember that precisely. i do know that, you know, he went back to pay his bill at the hotel, he wanted to go to the train station, he sent his papal
almoner to hand out money to the home ms they do that on a daily basis and we don't often hear about it. he walks the talk. >> he washed the feet of juvenile offenders on his first holy thursday. >> on the holy thursday, sure. >> let me go to jim sciutto, who is at joint base andrews, where the pope just left. i don't know if you've been able to discern what the chants are coming from this very excited crowd but it must be an electric mood there. >> reporter: no question, just simple things, pope francis is on the way, that's the kind of thing we've heard both before and after, just leading up to it, kind of a pep rally, as it wering for the supporters here, most of them very young. as he comes to the u.s. for the first time. it's interesting, in what the pope said on the plane to our rosa flores, this idea, i'm not a lefty, it seems to me there's
a message there for u.s. domestic politics. we know in the political debate here, the presidential race that a lot of the issues the pope is vocal on, abortion one of them, it's a hot-button issue, as we know. the pope, certainly not wanting to get involve at that level of u.s. politics. but it's also about church politics. there are tremendous expectations of him, lots of frustration among catholics about the church's position on women on contraception, et cetera. but in that i think we can see a message. this pope can change the tone of those positions on homosexuality as well, he has not, may not be able to change the actual church positions on those issues. he's not going to suddenly make divorce okay or abortion okay in the view of the church. there's that tension there. he represents an enormous change in tone but in those expectations, you'll have to manage expectations because he's not going to change those church
positions, certainly during his term. he can make some changes. he can push for instance, for a more forgiving view of divorce. he's on record saying that he wants divorced catholics to be able to receive the uk cyeuchar but he's not going to say divorce is okay in the eyes of the church. i. a lefty, there's a tremendous meaning what he can change and what he cannot change. >> delia gallagher, vatican correspondent, what's next on the docket? where is the pope going now? >> he gets time to rest. he goes back here in washington and has the night off, as it were, because tomorrow -- >> translate for people who aren't familiar. >> it's where the pope's ambassador lives. it's the kind of vatican's ambassador's -- >> across the street from the vice president's residence here in washington, d.c. >> right. and so he'll have some rest time because he's had a good few days
already in cuba. and then on tomorrow to the white house -- >> in fact, right now, forgive me for interrupting, what we're looking at now, as people waiting for the pope at the precise place you were discussing the ambassador, for want of a better word, his residence. >> yeah. >> tomorrow a big day at the white house. first thing to note when the pope does these visits he's not going straight to talk to congress. he talks to bishops first and he's doing the canonization, also here to do a canonization, and he's going to be doing that straight off the bat tomorrow, and then we'll get the speech to congress and then the u.n. the priority is also in the schedule, obviously stops at white house first, because this is the host country, and he goes there. but the priority obviously for a
pope is first, his religious duties as it were, and then more political things. >> i'm told, correct me if i'm wrong, the pope, one of the reasons why he has a empty schedule essentially this evening because it is -- it is the night of yyom kippur and ou respect to jews wanted to not schedule anything on the holiest night of the jewish year. looking now at the motorcade taking the pope from joint air base, andrews to -- to joint base andrews to the pope's -- to the ambassador's residence. dealia, is that right about the yom kippur? >> i haven't heard that officially but that would make sense. the other thing that is interesting about that is that the yom kippur, of course for the jews, day of atonement and
pope francis' theme is the theme of mercy and it's the same thing. it's about forgiveness. some way it dovetails quite nicely with this jewish holiday. for sure that is something that pope francis would be very aware of and wanting to respect. if not highlight indeed in what he's going to say to us in the next few days because that theme of mercy for him, he's a missionary of mercy, he's going out, the last thing he said to missionaries.o out, go out, be this is what he's doing in coming on this plane, you know, spending all of this time here is because he believes he is a missionary and missionaries go out to people and spread the word. so, that's what he's doing in this whole activity, this whole action is being a missionary, showing people how to do that, and telling people they in turn should do it. >> jim was talking earlier about
how the pope has been described in terms of his views and there seems to be some mischaracterizations, i think, about how much the pope wants to change catholic doctrine when it comes to issues such as abortion or same-sex marriage. i don't get any inkling he wants to change catholic doctrine at all. it is what it is. >> what happened is that, the very first interview that pope francis gave when he was pope, he said we don't need to talk so much about abortion, gay marriage and birth control, and that -- >> he wants emphasis to be poverty and mercy. >> he wants emphasis to be on environment, immigration, things that we're hearing about. but what happened to, i think, the conservative catholic side is they said, well, wait a minute, you know, abortion, gay marriage, birth control are sort of have been certainly in this
country fundamental identifiers for conservative catholics. and so in the first instance they felt, you know, this was kind of a strange thing for a pope to be saying and then he came out with an encyclical on the environment and a lot on immigration. and so certainly there, i think, is still, at least there was, a question, some conservatives' mind, which way does the pope want to go? and that's what's interesting about what he said on the papal plane, that i'm not a lefty, because he's responding to that. and so -- >> he's saying what i believe is exactly in keeping with scripture, with the gospel. >> absolutely. >> and it's really a question, i think for the likes of us, emphasis might be a little different but he's not going to change his position on abortion or same-sex marriage or birth control. >> no, no. i think that should be clear for both sided. but but he is bringing in a lot of the the other issues which we think of as left. >> right.
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that's on massachusetts avenue, right across the street from the vice president's residency. let's go back to our man on the ground joint base an druze where the pope just touched down minutes ago. jim sciutto. what is the pontiff's itinerary after he arrives at the vatican embassy here? >> reporter: jake, it's going to be a quiet nice, in large part, because the jewish holiday after yom kippur is starting tonight. he's going to the papal nuncio, right across from the vice president's residence on observatory circle and have a night of rest, quiet night, before he gets much busier tomorrow, starting with the visit to the white house. what we saw here really a pretty brief welcome. he landed, he met with the president for -- and the vice president and others for a few minutes and driving in that little fiat back to d.c. to the papal nuncio where he'll have a relatively quiet first evening
in the united states for him. >> president obama, of course, expected to meet with the pope at the white house tomorrow. this will be the third time that a pope has met with a u.s. president at the white house. now on thursday, the pontiff will address a joint session of congress, which is quite unusual for a pontiff. we have cnn's jim acosta at the white house and at the capitol. jim, we saw president obama greet the pope at joint base andrews. tomorrow the big oval office meeting. what's on the agenda? >> reporter: i was about to saying jake, there's plenty of space to park that fiat here at the white house. the pope is going to get a very big welcome here. just to start the day off, jake, keep in mind, there's an official arrival ceremony on the south lawn of the white house. they're expecting 15,000 people to cram into this south lawn to witness all of that. and then, yes, the day's big event will be that one-on-one meeting between president obama
and pope francis. i'm told by officials here that there will be no other senior administration officials in the room, vice president biden, secretary of state john kerry in a separate room meeting with vatican officials. will be the president, the pope and translators and they'll have a lot to talk about. what they will talk about, though, a closely guarded secret, jake, the white house is keeping their pope cards close to the vest. but you know, if past is prologued, obviously they're talking about these issues they have in common, income inequality, immigration, climate change, cuba, iran nuclear deal, the pope signed off on the iran nuclear deal. and it's interesting to note, jake, that they are in a way admitting that they don't know what to expect. last year when we were following the president in his visit with pope francis in rome, i asked the president, did you talk about this contraception controversy in obamacare, and the president said, no, that didn't come up at all. we talked about immigration and some other issues that the pope
wanted to discuss. sometimes the white house preps for what they think the pope will want to talk about but he wants to talk about something else. >> looking at images from his holiness, the pope, on the papal plane. he spoke with reporters. let's listen in a little bit. >> translator: well, that is part of the negotiations. it's public. both presidents have mentioned it. i know it's public domain. it is in works towards good wr relations, that is what they're looking for. let's see if goes to good resolution, good agreement to satisfy both parties, an agreement.
and regarding the holy church and the holy see, regarding embargoes, other popes have already talked about this, not only this embargo, but other -- >> listening to press conference and translation thereof. pope francis on papal plane, flying from cuba to the united states. he's talking about the cuban embargo, whether or not he's going to ask congress to lift the embargo against cuba when he speaks to congress. >> translator: i will not reveal at this point what i will be talking about, but i am trying to think about what i'm going to mention and say. but, no, specifically, this issue, in general, in general,
the issue of agreements, bilateral, not lateral, are signs of progress in -- >> let's bring in manu covering capitol hill. law makers on both sides of the aisle don't line up with all of the views of the pope and the catholic church. one lawmaker, we've heard, even talking about boycotting the pope's speech to congress. what are you hearing on the hill? >> jake, it's a mix of apprehension and excitement, excitement because, of course, a such an historic visit, first time ever a pope has addressed joint session of congress. but also apprehension because they are very uncertain about what the pope will say, of course it's a pope that has espoused views, deviating from the republicans who do dominate capitol hill, and they're unsure about the positions that he'll take. and what's interesting is that
the leadership, particularly on the republican side, is really sending out the message that they want their folks to behave. they don't want any outbursts, remember, of course we saw that 2009 speech from president obama addressed joint session of congress and a congressman yelled out "you lie" they don't want to see anything like that. they're saying that they want both sides of the aisle to behave and not treat this like a state of the union address when the mood is more partisan. we'll see if members abide by that, because they know this is such a huge and significant event and we'll all be talking about it and broadcast worldwide. >> thank you both. protecting the pope has become a massive, coordinated effort as he comes in contact with unpredictable crowds. the orchestrated endeavor to keep him safe, next on "the lead."
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welcome back to "the lead." looking at live pictures right now of crowds gathering outside the vatican embassy to the united states. it's also where the vatican ambassador lives. it's where the pope is headed, imminently. let's bring in pamela brown and rene marsh. you see these yous and think, this is a pope known for breaking script and running into the crowds. he likes that much more than he likes hanging out with dignitaries. a real challenge for secret service and other law enforcement officials. >> a real challenge. i can tell you, jake, from the law enforcement officials i've been speaking with, there has been a lot of concern, people are very anxious about this.
and, as you point out, that's because this is a pope who wants to be accessible to the people. he wants to be able to interact with the crowd. we've seen it when he's visited other countries and expect to see it when he visits -- during his six-day visit here in the united states. he is expected to be in a somewhat unprode protecprotecte popemobile going through massive crowds and the secret service is leading the charge of law enforcement in the months leading up to this visit, jake, we've learned that the secret service director actually went to the vatican, visited with head of security over there, watched the pope interact with crowds to get a sense of how security should be here in the united states in anticipation of this visit. and we see some of the measures already, jake, with this visit. we saw the barriers there at vatican ambassador. lots of security. there's a lot we're not going to see that is part of the security preparations and protocol.
there are some unusual measures. we've learned that $15 million was spent by the secret service renting bike racks to keep the crowds at bay, create barriers. also we know that the nypd police commissioner said they will have ten miles of streets closed at once when he visits new york later in the week. also unusual measures being taken as we have talked about, you can't have selfie sticks, crowds can't have that, can't be drones in new york. >> rene marsh, what's the new wrinkle in security from the last time a pope visited, pope benedict in 2008, a new challenge for law enforcement and national security officials when it comes to what might be in the air. >> we know the pope is on land but we saw the live pictures here right here on "the lead" as he was entering u.s. airspace. i can tell you that, more than 150 agencies, they are locked in on the u.s. airspace, the new concern for many of them is
those low, slow flying aircraft like drones, things of that nature that they simply cannot pick up on radar. so it really is going to come down to, jake, keeping their eyes peeled, peep on top of buildings, with binoculars, taking a close look because it comes down to this, because of low, slow flying drones do not get picked up on radar, the concern is an individual mei lan. it just within yards from the pope and now you have something that is flying dangerously close to this high-level guest, and that is just something that the secret service doesn't want to see or any other security agency. that's their biggest concern, how do they track this sort of thing? how do they keep their eyes peeled for this sort of thing? how do they safely intercept it so that the pope essentially is not harmed and no one else nearby. so i can tell you that airspace security is top of mind. not only with him landing here,
but for all of those open air events that pamela just discussed. of course from washington, d.c., he's going to be going to new york, philly, and then back to rome. >> all right, rene marsh and pamela brown. tomorrow pope francis will make his way to the white house for meetings with president obama. anna navarro and donna brazile will join us in a minute. right now awaiting the arrival of pope francis. we see, i believe, the motorcade pulling in. what that shot is of is a crowd that is gathered outside the vet can ambassador and the cvaticans ambassador residence. cars are pulling up. let see if we can get a good camera angle on that. you can hear the crowd's excitement as they're seeing
what our camera position is failing to pick up now, at rival of these cars. and the pope's motorcade, first ever visit by pope francis to the united states. he is only the fourth pope in the history of this country to visit the united states. jim sciutto joins us where the pope touched down, joint base andrews. jim, we were talking with pamela and renay about the extraordinary security precautions for this visit. heres the motorcade led by the metropolitan police department suv and more pulling up. >> reporter: i tell you, jake, that stretch of road where the papal -- rather the vatican residence is right across the street from the vice president's residence has to be one of the
he has a very busy schedule on this trip but this evening he get a break. partly we are told out of respect for the fact that tonight is the holiest night of the jewish year, the night of yom kippur. the pope waving to the crowd. he just walked in with the vatican ambassador. father beck is with us. this is some admirable restraint, father beck, because i know this pope is somebody who loves to not to crowd surf, but you see the crowd and he likes to talk to the people, he likes to embrace the people. and so far we've seen him restrain himself, although that's not going to hold for the whole trip. >> no, i'm sure it's not. jake, i've been thinking of this
anecdote from his young life studying chemistry and science and his mother wanted him to be a doctor. she found these theology and philosophy books and said to him, son, you've lied to me, and he said to her, mama, i'm studying medicine for souls. and i can't help but think that now he's trying to bring the church back to its true doctrine, to tend suffering souls. the image he's put forth is a field hospital tending wounded and so as he comes to this country, yes, i think you're right, he wants to wade into the crowds but he wants to really address are the left behind ones, the ones that can't even make it to the crowd, the forgotten ones. i think that's his mission as he comes here to this u.s. >> and i know that there are many, many stops on his schedule where he will get an opportunity to interact directly with some of those who have been left behind by society to a degree or
another. joining me right now, cnn political commentators anna navarro and donna brazile, both in attendance tomorrow at the white house when the pope visits that building. only the third pope to do so. anna what are you hoping to hear from the pope? >> i'm hoping to hear a message of mercy. having him tell us be good to each other. i think just bring his spirituality. i'm not hoping to hear politics. i'm not going to hear pope francis because i see him as a political leader. he's a spiritual leader. he means so much for catholics. donna and i are different side of the political spectrum. i can tell you, we've been watching this from the green room, sharing in the excitement that i think most catholics around the united states are feeling today of knowing that the pope is on u.s. soil. so for today, let's be papal commentators instead of political ones. >> i'm with you on that. i'm a cradle catholic like anna. i've been involved in catholic
church activities all of my life. i signed the pledge to walk with francis. pope francis says something recently that struck me, he said i want a church that's able to get into the street. i'd rather have a bruised church than a steal one. this is a very exciting moment. i've been to the vatican on numerous occasions but never met a pope in my entire life. i told ana we're going to be on time tomorrow. >> i was at the vatican last year for the canonization of two popes, i was invited to the vatican and just being near him, energy of peace that he projects, something very similar to what i felt when i attended a mass with john paul in miami, when he first visited here, john paul ii. so, you know, i think that we have to bask in the significance of his visit. i don't want to parse the
politic politics of. i don't think he's a democrat. i don't think he's a republican. i'm certainly not going to have a partisan fight over what the pope says. let's just, you know, get his blessings and his teachings and talk about unity andsome of the good things that he's bringing. we flknow president obama and o course vice president biden, but talk about president obama, has a good relationship with this pope and a deep admiration for him. >> yes. when i saw the pope get off of the plane, the president embraced him, the president admires the pope for not only his work but the way he leads by example. i'm sure tomorrow when they have an opportunity to talk privately, get a debriefing on the pope's visit to cuba but also to welcome the pope to america. we forget, this is his first trip to the united states. welcome, mr. pope. >> i'm looking forward to hearing him speak english. we've never heard him speak english before. i have a feeling his accent
might be stronger than mine. >> thanks for your insights. watch cnn this evening for a special report "the people's pope," how did pope francis become a rock star worldwide? find out tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. turning you over to wolf blitzer in t"the situation room" right now. >> happening now, breaking news, pope in america. the people's pope land on u.s. soil for the first time and is greeted by the president and vice president. will he bring controversy with him to the white house and congress as he tackles tough political and social issues? unprecedented security. the pope's visit will have parts of three u.s. cities on lockdown. it's one of the largest security mobilizations in american history. can 50 u.s. agencies keep the pope safe? cease and desist. donald trump demands