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hallelujah ♪ ♪ hallelujah ♪ hallelujah ♪ teach us to speak ♪ teach us to hear ♪ yours is the tongue ♪ and ours to hear ♪ hallelujah ♪ hallelujah hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield with your coverage. i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. you are watching c nshnn's spec
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live coverage of the first full day of pope francis' first visit to the united states. and we are minutes away from the next big event on the pope's jam-packed schedule. a prayer service with american bishops at the cathedral of st. matthew the apostle. it is a few blocks north of the white house. this is the mother church of the archdiocese of washington named for the patron saint of civil servants. pope john paul ii, and now saint john paul ii celebrated mass here in 1979. president kennedy's funeral mass took place here in 1963. and if you tuned in this morning or if you happened to be among the 11,000 specially selected, vetted and ticketed guests, you saw what has to have been the
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biggest and the grandest welcome ever afforded to someone arriving in a fiat. the pontiff known for humility was given all of the pageantry the white house has to off, during which he and president obama addressed the crowd in english. english. a language that his holiness is not entirely comfortable speaking. some in washington may not have been entirely comfortable with some of what was spoken. listen carefully. mr. president, i find it encouraging that you are
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proposing an initiative for reducing air pollution. accepting the urgency, it seems clear to me also that climate change is a problem which can no longer be left to a future generation. for his part, president obama touching on some sensitive topics as well. >> you remind us that the lord's most powerful message is mercy. that means welcoming the stranger with empathy and a truly open heart. from the refugee who flees war-torn lands to the immigrant who leaves home in search of a better life. a meeting in the oval office followed this, and then running just a little bit behind
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schedule, a popemobile spin around the ellipse, and you may have friends or family or coworkers or neighbors who were in this crowd, and i assure you that this is one of the biggest days of their lives. it was just a remarkable scene. true the form, the pope kissed and blessed children who local police lined the route, and sometimes attempted to keep away, but look at the screen on the right. the pope's own security detail knew all too well what to do with the children. up they went, and kissing and a blessing and back they went to find their parents in those crowds. and look at this. the little baby brought over by the pope's people. for the pope to bless, and then safely returned to the parents. and really, just an incredible scene to witness, and even if you are watching on television, imagine what it would have been like if you had been there. and now what we are watching
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live in washington, d.c. is the pope in front of about 300 u.s. bishops who have assembled for a mass at st. matthew's cathedral, and it is a prayer service that he is going to preside over, and there is the wider shot of the cathedral. this is a stunning site. a beautiful facility for this to take place, and our jim sciutto has been watching all of this unfold this morning. i has been sort of a remarkable four hours, and already a very busy day for the 78-year-old pontiff, jim. >> no question. starting bright and early, but i will say that i noted it earlier, ashleigh, it starred a little bit late here at the white house 15 minutes, and why? because this pope, the pope of the people made sure before he left the vatican residence in northwest washington to stop and meet and shake hands with supporters outside, and even take a few selfies, and that is always his focus, the emphasis
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more than the interactions with the luminaries, and important, certainly, but he loves to be with and among the people and i will tell you that watching as the popemobile going around the e ellipse here, the product of the enormous security operation hereb and you can imagine the pope uncomfortable with it as he likes to get close to the supporte supporters, and kras you noted e of the rare opportunities for the pope to reach out and touch, and he will have more opportunities in philadelphia and new york, but it is one of the rare opportunities he has had to generate to energy from the crowd. >> and jim sciutto, we wondered if he would bring that popemobile to a halt, and it did not happen, because the babies came to him, but you could see the energy of the now contemplative man on the screen. he seemed to feed off of the energy of the jubilant crowd.
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he, himself, looked simply joyous. >> no question. i will the tell you the contrast and i don't know if you remember, ashleigh, but when he first took the podium on the south lawn, he looked tired, and one of the vatican spokesmen said that the siciatica had actd up, and difficult for him to stand for a long time, but you see the persona change when he gets close to the crowd, and the popemobile closer to the crowd, that is where he draws the energy, and by no mean to diminish the important meetings that took place in the white house here today, and the president and the pope discussing just so many of the issues in the news today that are very present, and the e refugee issue, and the climate change, and issues of religious freedom. much they agree on, ashleigh, but with relations of the family, gay marriage and abortion that they disagree on. >> and we will watch the entire
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day's proceedings on the right, and you will see what happens on the left, and the live picture inside of st. matthews where a welcoming from cardinal donald wuerl and archbishop kurtz will take place, and a prayer service with all of the bishops is also under way. we will continue to follow this and fit in a quick break and come right back.
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welcome back. our coverage continues with pope francis' first visit to the united states and the first official mass here. we are live in washington, d.c. at st. matthews where he is about to conduct a mass in front of hundreds of bishops who are in the audience. and while we know what he is going to say, we can't tell you the words he is going to be using, but the words are going to be significant. father edward beck is here, c nshncnn religious commentator, and father beck, this has the potential once he stands and delivers the address to be somewhat uncomfortable for many who are seated in the cathedral. >> and it would probably be more uncomfortable if he was not speaking in english, because in cuba, when he met with the bishopsinarians and
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priests, he threw the script away and focused on forgive everyone, and let mercy flow from you, and he challenged them not to be bureaucrats, but to be real shepherds and ministers of the people, and it is with one of the most remarkable moments in cuba, because he put the text aside and spoke from the heart. >> does he do that often, do away with the printed word, and in such a formidable word? >> well, he did it there twice in cue barngs and speaking in spanish, and comfortable. now, this morning he is not that great with english, so he is more tied to the text. >> and now, this is going to be latin when he speaks to the bishops? >> and in the address he will speak to the bishops in english, y yes. >> not the entire address. >> yes.
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>> and the other issue is the sex abuse scandal, and he has a plan if he follows the script to discuss this amongst the bishops in this venerable venue. and some people will say he is not going to be going far enough. and some will say it is painful and perhaps they would go as far to say not necessary. >> he is probably going to be encouraging them, because it is a wounded time in the church, and certainly for the victims, and it has been a hard time to be a priest, and hard time to be bishops as well to go through all of that. and so what i think that he wants to say to the leadership of the church, and remember these are the leaders of the diosese throughout the country, and they set the directive s s the diosese, and he is going to be encouraging them to be healers, compassionate healer, and attentive to the min is the industries, and of course, the ministers are top of the list. >> yes, and it is going to be interesting to see what the tenor of the topic is as it is
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brought up before these 300 bishops. as the prayer ceremony gets under way in earnest, and for the pope's own words, we have the pope's own words from the white house. he gave a shorter a ddress and y many accounts, is it is not as forceful as what you will hear in the next hour here at st. matthews, but he did address some political issues. he addressed climate change which is a big tenet of where he stands right now, and what he feels with regard to how humanity is treating this earth, and he invoked martin luther king, and i want to play that while we await the words at st. matthews, we can hear what he said earlier at the white house. >> mr. president, i am finding
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it encouraging that you are proposing reducing air pollution. accepting the urgency, it seems clear to me also that climate change is a problem we can no long er be left to our future generati generation. when it comes to the care of our common home, we are living at a critical moment of history. we still have time to make the change needed to bring about sustainable and integral change
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for we know that such change demands on our own part a serious and responsible initiative not only of the kind of the world that we may be leaving to our children, but also to the millions of people living under the system which has overlooked them. our common home has been part of this group of the excluded which casts out to heaven and which today powerfully strikes our homes, our cities, our societies.
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to use a telling phrase of the reverend martin luther king, we can say that we have defaulted on a promissory note and now is the time to honor it. [ applause ] we have defaulted on our promissory note, he said, at the white house. just so i can get you up to speed in the order of events here at the cathedral of st. matthews. this is of course a mass before 300 catholic bishops here in the nation's capital, but it has also been called a meeting with the bishops of the united states of america, and as such, it is an opportunity for this pope and in the words that he is about to
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deliver to really give these bi bishops a sense of what he feels about their work, what he feels about the church and i should -- i should correct rather than mass, it is a prayer service. mass is later today, and this is a significant prayer service with a significant address to the bishops, and as we we are just in the midst of a moment of silence, i want to bring in father edward beck again. and by the way, may i say happy birthday. and this is quite a day for you. >> thank you very much. what a way to celebrate it. >> what a birthday pres eent. and if you can, in the way of the birthday and something that you have waited your whole life fo for. >> hmm. >> and this is an opportunity to bring about a strict message of change for this pope. how strict will he be with the words? >> well, i don't think that he is going to wag the finger at
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them. i think that he is going to be encouraging with them, and he will be challenging at them, and he is coming as the shepherd of rome, and he is one of them, and eshoos the dicker of christ, and so is i would not expect a lot of finger wagging, and certainly, he did it to the bishops and the priests in ha van na, and he is most hardest of his own, but he is most merciful to the flock, but he challenges them, don't grow tire and do what you are supposed to do and be ministers and be shepherds and go out to the periphery and don't stay in the inside, go out to the airports. >> get out sooside. >> yes. >> and now, i amt not sure if
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our correspondent is with us, but if i cannot get him, perhapsly ask you, father beck, but he left the vatican for this trip, and left in his wake a lot of consternation, those who are k conservative within the vatican ranks, and how will they be watching this? it is not a surprise to them what he is about to say. >> no. they will cheer some of it internally, and some of it they will dismiss as they have. and again, with that speech that we heard this morning, we have conservatives who cheered some thing, and liberals who cheered other thing, but this pope does not take and abandon some of it. >> well, he is going to take the partisan vent to it, and then takes the other end. >> which is nonpartisan. >> and i like to say that the i'm an equal opportunity offender in that respect as well. and what he is about to tackle
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are very, very uncomfortable, and difficult topics in this address, abortion, hunger, bombings, immigrants who are literally dying to try to seek a better life, drug trafficking, terrorism, wars and the environment. there are myriad views on how the cope and tackle each and every one of those topics. >> there are, and especially focusing on the immigration, because he began the address at the white house by beginning with the words "i am the son of an immigrant family." and so you will know that is the way we welcome or do not welcome immigrants. >> and i want to listen in, and can you tell us briefly what he is doing in this service. >> it is the introductory part of the afternoon prayer service, and welcoming and the introductory prayer. >> let's listen.
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[ speaking foreign language ]
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[ no audio ] >> holy father, it is a great honor and joy to welcome you to the archdiocese of washington and its cathedral. our mother church bears the name of st. matthew the apostle whose experience of god's love and call are expressed in your own mot motto. in the future when we look at the great mosaic of st. matthew, we will be reminded of your concern for us as you begin your pastoral visit to the nation, and this archdiocese. the ashch die y-- archdiocese j-
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so you are hearing applause here in washington, d.c. in the cathedral of st. matthews, and the pope is being welcomed by and here is some common parlance for you two big wigs in the united states and catholic church and the first is from cardinal donald wuerl and the
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comments that led to the applause cardinal werts that led to the highlights of the constitution and the bill of rights that is offered to the citizenry, and now we will proceed to the prayer service and remarks that will be offered to the bishops and those assembled before him. as he is ready to deliver the address. he started in latin, but we expect some english. let's listen. >> translator: dear brothers and bishops, first of all, i would like to send my greetings to the hebrew community, to our jewish brothers for whom today is a sacred day, yom kippur.
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i hope that the lord brings down his blessings of peace and will keep them in life and holiness. according to the word of the holy word that we have heard today, for i am holy. [ applause ] i am pleased to meet you at this point in the apostolic mission that has brought me to your country. i would like to deeply thank cardinal wuerl and archbishop
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kurtz for their kind words, and words that were also in your name. please take aboard my appreciation and generous efforts that i look out in the kindness and the embrace of the local churches that you carry on your shoulders and ask you to reassure them that my human and spiritual closeness makes us all
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one people of god throughout the vast land. the heart of the pope expands the to include everyone, expanding the heart to bear witness that god is great and is love, is this very essence of peter's successor, the vicker of the one on the cross and the body and may not escape the embrace of the womb's embrace that wherever the name of je is sus is spoken may the pope's
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voice also be heard there to affirm that he is the savior from your great eastern coastal cities to the plains of the midwest to the far reaches of the west and wherever the peoples gather in the eucharistic assembly, may the pope simply not be a name invoked out of habit, but a real tangible presence to sustain the fervent plea of the bride, come lord." when a hand reaches out to show good or to show a brother the love of christ to dry a tear or
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comfort the lonely, to show the way to one who is lost or to the console a broken heart, to help the fallen or teach those thirst ing for truth, to forgive or to offer a new start in god, know that the pope is by your side, the pope supports you. he also puts his hand on yours, a handwritt wrinkled with age, hand there to support and encourage. [ applause ] my first word is thanksgiving to
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god for the power of the gospel which has allowed this remarkable growth of christ's church in these land and enabled its generous contribution that the church has offered in the past and in the present to the american society and the world. i thank you most heartily and really appreciate your generous solidarity with the apostolic see and the support that you give to the spread of the go goes -- gospel and the unfailing chart of america to the calls to
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the life and the family and the primary reason of this visit of mine. i follow closely the immense effort you have made to welcome and integrate immigrants who continue to look to america like so many others before them in the hope of enjoying its blessing of freedom and prosperity. [ applause ] i also admire the effort with which you are making to fulfill the church's mission of education in schools at every level and the charitable services that you offer in your numerous institutions. these works are often carried
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out without appreciation or support of their real value. often with heroic sacrifice, mainta maintained with the arms of the poor, because these initiatives grow out of the obedience to the divine mandate which we may not disobey. i am conscious of the courage with which you have faced difficult moments in the recent history of the ecclesiastical path without fear of criticism and without the cost of mortification and great sacrifice, without giving into
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the fear of giving up everything that is superfluous as long as you can regain the authority and trust that is demanded of christ's ministers. as the soul of your people demand demands. i know how much the wounds of these last few years have weighed on your spirit, and i have joined my evers with yours in the efforts of securing those victims, and when we bring soccor, we have to make certain
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those crimes will never repeat themselves. i speak to you as the bishop of rome. already in old age, but call by god and coming from a land which is also american to watch over the unity of the universal church and to encourage in charity the journey of all the particular churches so that they may grow in knowledge, faith and love of christ reading over your names, looking at your faces, knowing the extent of your churchmanship an conscious of the devotion with which you have
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always, which you have always shown for the successor of peter, and i must tell you that i do not feel a stranger among your midst. father the beck, i want yu to weigh in here to what the pontiff just said. these are significant words. he said that i am also conscious of the courage with which you have faced difficult moments in the recent history of the church in this country, and he went on the say that i realize how much the pain of recent years has weighed upon you and i have supported your generous commitment to bring healing to victims. and we are talking about the sex abuse scandal here in the united states, in the knowledge that in healing, we, too, are healed to insure that such crimes will never again be repeated. i want your reaction to those words, and some say that is not enough outreach to the victims,
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but more of the outreach to the bishops in this audience and the work they have done in this difficult time. >> well, ashleigh, some would say that they are surprised that he is even talking about it this early, and they are not sure that he would address it, and if he is going the meet with the victims burk we are hearing that he is going to meet with the victims in philadelphia, and he is saying healing with victims, and ensuring that such crimes never repeat themselves. and he uses the word crime, and it is a strong word, and naming it. >> as he used that word before? >> i dont't rerecallt it, but h may v and to the use it here in the united states where it is a issue, it is healing here that he is naming it for what it is. and the recent history has been certainly that it has been a terrible one in the catholic church in the united states in particular. and this pope knows that. so he is addressing it up front to the u.s. bishops, and addressing that terrible
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history. >> and i mean, this is the first of the unkom focomfortable, and out of the the gate, the first uncomfortable topic, and it is just minutes into the address. there is more to come. i think that the bishops won't have a whole lot of time to process that before he is going to move on to the abortion and climate change and political topics. >> of course, they will be fine with abortion, and some of them wish he was speaking about abortion more, because he said that we don't have to speak about the hot debate issues, and he is going to mention abortion, and many had hoped that he would, and a lot of them will be pleased with that, and a lot of the conservative catholics will be pleased about that, because they have felt that he has not focused on abortion, and same-sex marriages which are the right topics. >> we have been hearing about the religious e freedom both from the pope and the president this morning, and how the country prides itself on the religious freedom, and we are in the midst of an election race in which religious freedom, the
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religion, and the religion of the president can or cannot be has taken scenter stage in the news coverage in the last 48 hours. >> it is interesting how they focused on the different aspect of the religious freedom, and the president talked about the land of liberty and to be inclusive, and the pope was talking about a contraceptive mandate, and that is part of the religious liberty that the president did not speak of, and so there were both aspects of the religious liberty that the president did not talk about. >> and we will continue with the pope speaking to the bishops right after this. active management can tap global insights. active management can take calculated risks. active management can seek to outperform. because active investment management isn't reactive.
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carson and let's start with the tweet. seriously? >> well, is it is funny, because trump has a new biographer and he is about to come out, a nd h spent time with trump, and time one-on-one, and he said that even trump has acknowledged that deep down he is a 6 to 8-year-old boy. >> i like to say he is a 14-year-old girl on facebook, because a 14-year-old girl on facebook says that, and you are not invited to my first birthday part party. >> and certainly, he has a freedom of the press to not go there, but it is the freedom of the press to do that and there is a not certainly a conspiracy theory here, and it is his friend bill o'reilly who is not show showing the polls that show him in the lead. >> and now i don't know what to ask sally, because sally would give this comment, and this is not what you would give me, dogs and cats are living together,
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and mass hysteria. >> i don't know a single thoughtful republican who thinks that donald trump is a ridiculous candidate and problematic for the country, but -- >> you said problematic for democracy? >> well, our democratic republic, and the united states of america, and the premises that our founders built the country off of are not anything that he is riffing off of the run the country. >> and david duke has the right to run. >> of course, he can go knock on fox news. >> well, the democracy prides itself on every voice. >> well, is it is the sign of an unhealthy democracy when a candidate like donald trump is at the lead when it comes to the celebrity obsessed race to the bottom, and let's talk about every swift of the hair and not substance in a political debate. that is what this is evidence of. >> i think that the tweets are
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ridiculous, and how he treets people that he does not like is ridiculous, and i have been on the receiving end of vile language of donald trump that i asked and frankly, i thought it with because softball, but fr frankly, i do agree with those who believe that, it is not bad having a guy like this to shake out some of the views that are out there, and really test other candidates. >> well, that is steven colbert asked a softball question last night. >> meatball question. >> and he said a meatball and the last time that you have to ever answer this question, and then nobody will ask it again. >> play it. play the sound bite, and we will talk about it. here it goes. >> this is the last time that you ever have to address this question if you hit the ball. okay. here it is -- so like, sauce all over my hand, because the meatball is all over it. okay. >> okay. >> barack obama, born in the united states. was he? it is a meatball.
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it is hanging out there. and just right there. and come on. [ applause ] >> and you know, i don't talk about it anymore. >> you don't talk about it anymore, and you talk about it by saying i don't talk about it. >> and you know, again, like the facts irrelevant to political candidates, and are policy positions irrelevant to the political candidates? >> it might have take n the hol father to say, and mr. president, saying, thank you for being such a good christian for people to believe he is not a muslim or nonamerican. >> well, we are seeing a great example in america of someone who has different differences, and with the democrats and the president, and still being civil and still raising those very moral and other issues. >> we have a lot to cover, and thank you, ladies. a and you are confusing me to no end to wear colors or something
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-- captions by vitac -- hello, everyone. i'm don lemon and wolf is out. 1:00 p.m. here, and 6 #:00 p.m. in london and 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem, and wherever you are watch around the world, thanks for joining us. of course, here in the united states, it is a day of ceremony and celebration in our nation's capital with pope francis as a guest of honor. right now the pope is a guest at st. matthews cathedral there in washington, d.c. where he


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