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[ chanting ] >> catholicism is one of the biggest religions in the world. been scandal has been almost inescapable in the last decade. >> he has apologized for sexual abuse by priests in the catholic church. >> people of faith have been on the decline. but i'm heading to michigan where priests are considered cool. >> please welcome to the mound, the father.
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>> here, even at the local baseball game, the presence of the collar is everywhere. they've been producing priests for some time. but in the past decade, more and more young men are heeding the call. >> i see what a priest does for people. i, too, want to do that. >> this rural pocket of america is defying the trend of a shrinking roman catholic clergy, inspiring men of all ages to join the priesthood. tonight we the meet the men who've answered the call to the collar, to the men who would want to become a priest. >> i remember thinking to myself, is this what i really want? and the more i prayed about it i thought this is exactly what i want to do. ♪ ♪
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26 year old father gary has just been assign to his first parish in central michigan. >> in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit. the lord be with you. >> it's a big role for a man as yuck as he is. >> to become the chosen people of god. >> he's presiding over a congregation of nearly 1700 families. you've been here now how long? >> about a month and a half. not long.
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>> what was it like to be actually assigned to a parish. >> when i first arrived i looked very young and they're, like, you're father gary? so that was funny. i think it's so satisfying knowing this is going to be my place, and these are high people. >> you're only 26 years old, and you've assumed this role of spiritual father. >> yeah. >> what does that mean? and how has it been? >> it's very surreal still. and i'm getting used to it. i am called father, just like a father is called on to provide for his children. my duty is to help my people grow in holiness and to put their needs before my own. >> that they become the body and blood of your son our lord jesus christ. >> though father gary is new to the job he seems confident up there on the altar. >> the body of christ. the body of christ. >> and connecting with parishioners.
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>> how are you doing? that's a beautiful name. that's right. thanks. >> he's bonding with young and old. >> yeah. good job. >> have a good week. >> you too, thanks. >> most of the people here were a lot older than gary. some of the women said we've been going to this church longer than he's been alive. but now he is their spiritual father and the pews were filled and the people were thrilled. as he greets people at the exit, i get a chance to talk to a family that's been coming to this church for over 15 years. how do you like the new priest? >> we love him. we absolutely love him. and it's great to see younger priests. guys like father gary do a great job of getting people fired up and excited about catholicism and going to church. for the catholic church to keep growing we need the father
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garys. >> are you excited to see a younger priest? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> at just 26, father gary is already making an impression. but in this day and age, what drives someone to become a catholic priest? maybe the answer can be found here at gary's hometown of fowler, michigan. a tiny rural community with a population of just over 1200. as soon as you hit town you get an immediate sense of what's important. there are two bridal stores, and a catholic shop. hi, how are you? >> hi. >> i've never been in a catholic
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store before in the middle of town. how long has this store been here? >> almost ten years. >> ten years. is it a popular store? >> it's getting to be busier and busier every year. most of the people in this community are catholic. we've always been active, but the last couple years, they can't say enough about the young kids that are on fire with their faith. >> have you noticed in recent years more young men wanting to pursue priesthood than before? >> oh, yeah. we have so many young men that are checking it out. >> and that's something that people are pretty proud of, huh? >> oh, definitely. i would love to have a son that was a priest. >> really? >> that would be i think every mother's dream in this community. >> just a few miles up the road from the catholic store, that dream came true for father gary's mother, agnes. once a week, her son, the priest, comes home to lead a private mass, just for his parents and siblings. >> you alone are the lord. >> but father gary isn't the only one wearing a collar in this family. his identical twin brother todd is also a priest. it's a double blessing for agnes and her husband bryan. >> when they told you they were interested in pursuing the priesthood, how did you feel? >> wonderful, like, yes! i knew it. it was unbelievable. >> it's one thing just having a new priest with the church, but to have your own sons, it's a real special privilege for us. >> this is really fast. >> todd and gary have worked on the family dairy farm for most
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of their lives. >> i think one of the greatest joys of growing up on a farm is the sense of being needed. like i helped cut that field of hay. i helped move cows. and that's a greatest blessing. dad used to say everything on this farm is a blessing from god. >> hi, bessie. >> oh, what a little guy. do you call them all bessie? >> yeah. every little cow is bessie. i don't want it to suck on my finger. >> that's a quintessential experience right there. >> that's all right, i'll pass. as young boys and twins, todd and gary had similar interests and personalities. it's hard to believe that both of you are shy guys. >> i have to marvel, like where did i come from? >> how shy were you? >> pretty shy. >> pretty shy. >> from a young age, the twins
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did everything together. they went to catholic school, had their first confession at age 8 and became altar boys at 10. it was during this time that god spoke directly to one of them. >> i was about 7 or 8 years old when i first felt the call. >> so gary, you felt the call first. did you share this? nope. >> with todd? >> not a bit. >> todd tells me he heard his own calling several years later when he was 14. he also chose to keep it a secret in his brother. >> our parents talked to each of us separately. but we weren't talking to each other. but eventually they're the ones that brought us in the same room and said you're both thinking about it. >> were you relieved to know about it. >> yes, it was a big relief. i could share it with them. >> they acquired their 8 years of seminary, traveling to the holy land and rome. seven years in they became
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deacons, and a year later at the age of 26 they were finally ordained as priests. >> the entire church gathered saying thank you, god for this man. please bless him, please prepare him, put it in his heart. >> it's one of the most powerful, joyful moments of my life. and i couldn't stop smiling the entire day. >> todd and gary are now devoted to doing god's work. they've joined their uncle bill, who is also a man of the cloth. >> hail mary, full of grace. >> just as, you know, roots give life and support to a tree, that's what i have here. it's really a support system. >> theirs is a close-knit family and the only one that todd and gary will ever have. as priests, they've both made the ultimate sacrifice, to remain celibate for the rest of their lives.
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>> did you ever think that you might feel like you just missed out on physical relationships with a woman? >> that desire is certainly still there, always will be there. but that's not part of what my life is. jesus can fill it in other ways. >> did you ever feel, even slightly disappointed that you might not be getting grandkids out of those boys? i mean, they are really handsome guys. >> no. no. because your children might not be called to marriage. and if they are, they might not have children. so there's no guarantees that there were going to be grandchildren to begin with. >> back in his parish, father gary is now far from the family farm. handling the daily duties of tending to his new flock. >> you come from such a big family. >> yeah. >> and you spent the last eight years in seminary and you had your brother. >> that's right. >> and now you're here.
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have you ever felt lonely? >> yeah. i've definitely been there, but a wise priest once told me when you feel a loneliness, turn it over to jesus and see what he does. >> father gary uses that advice when he faces one of the toughest parts of the job, praying with those in their darkest hour. >> can i do this? can i handle walking with people into the dark moments of their life? milk has 8 grams of high-quality protein. which could be the difference between just living life. and milking it. start every day with the power of protein and milk life.
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handful of times. >> you're visiting with people sometimes in their last moments. >> true, yeah. >> what kind of pressure is that for you? >> i would say it's a very privileged moment doing in. they see me not just as gary but father gary and bringing god into that situation. [ knocking ] >> do you mind if i come in? >> not at all. >> i'm father gary from holy family. >> terry and her husband don are devout catholics confronting an uncertain future. terry has liver disease and is waiting for a transplant. >> they tell me after i get the liver, i'll be back to what i normally would be. >> really? that would be wonderful. >> oh, that would be great. >> have you been anointed before?
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>> no. >> well, it's a special grace. >> the anointing of the sick. it's a ritual of prayer and healing and something only a priest can offer. >> lord, we have gathered here in your name, and we ask you to be among us, to watch over our sister terry through this anointing. may the lord help you through his grace of the holy spirit. look with compassion upon your servant terry whom we've anointed in your name for the healing of her body and spirit and we ask this in name of christ our lord. >> oh, thank you so much. i am so blessed. these are tears of joy. >> what does it mean to you to have father gary visit you today? >> it makes me feel that god is right here. >> right here in this hospital room. >> you've been part of the church for a long time. what's it like to have this very young-looking father? is he the youngest priest that you've encountered? >> oh, yeah.
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i don't know of any younger. he's a breath of fresh air. i don't think most people would expect to see a priest as young as you are. but. >> yeah. >> i think it's great. >> i watched terry light up. >> yeah. >> when you prayed with her. how did that make you feel? >> to see the light in that woman's eyes as i was praying with her, it was so encouraging to know that god touched that person. >> it has been an honor. >> father gary, despite his baby face, carried with him this composure and this maturity and this warmth and compassion and i got it. i got the reason why someone could feel that call. i can't imagine there's a better feeling than what it felt like to bring just that moment of calmness and peace.
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it was beautiful. like his brother gary, father todd helps manage his own parish. though every morning starts the same, each day brings something new. a funeral, a wedding, a visit with someone in need. father todd lives in the church rectory, rent free and earns a yearly salary of $30,000 from parish donations. it's not much money, but there's little time for play when you're doing god's work. i've seen one brother comfort his parishioners in the face of death. and now i'm about to witness the other guide his at the beginning of life. >> you have asked to have your children baptized. i now trace the cross on your foreheads and invite your parents and god parents to do
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the same. >> father todd is welcoming not one but three young children into the catholic faith. >> lord, bathe these children in light and welcome them into your holy church. make them your faithful followers and witnesses to your gospel. we pray to the lord. >> lord, hear our prayer. >> my dear brothers and sisters -- >> like his brother gary, todd, too, is a brand new priest, vested by the catholic church with the authority to perform sacred rituals called sacraments. >> elijah, i baptize you in the name of the father and of the son, and of the holy spirit, amen. >> through his ministry, the youngest of his flock become sons and daughters of god. >> what is it like to play such a significant role in people's lives? >> it's just a great honor.
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you talk about people hungering god in a powerful way. this is one of the big ways. their parents are saying this is what, we want god to be the center of your life, and we're going to do our best to raise you in it and never let you forget it. >> these children have been reborn in baptism. the father, the son and the holy spirit bless you. amen. thanks so much. that was beautiful. >> thank you, father. >> even though this is your third child, you are just beaming today. what does it mean to you? >> our faith is the most important thing to our life. and it's his very first sacrament, and the washing away of original sin and welcoming him into our church and i believe in our faith and to just envision that grace coming down upon him and god blessing him in that way. just makes my heart burst. >> today father todd has brought three more souls into his
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congregation. from this moment on he'll be their spiritual guide as they grow and will catch them when they fall. every week he heads to a tiny room where the troubled come to bare their souls. confession is the most private of catholic rituals. he talks about what it's like to be the keeper of people's darkest secrets. >> so this is the confession room, huh? >> this is one of the confessionals here at st. thomas. >> did you get nervous in the beginning just because people are sharing such deeply held things with you? >> oh, i was terrified the first time i walked in here. this is such a sacred space where someone can be completely open to the lord and sometimes that means really sharing something that they have never, ever told anyone. so when i'm in here, i really try to listen to the holy spirit and say god, i need you to tell me what to say.
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and so far, he's come through. >> we are all predisposed to form opinions and make judgments. how hard is it for you to not judge what you hear? >> actually, surprisingly not that hard not to judge. having had the experience of god's own love and mercy myself, how on earth could i not give that to someone else. >> at the end of the day, you are a 26 year old farm boy. >> mm-hm. >> where do you get this authority to be able to forgive people? >> at the end of the day, i am only a 26 year old farm boy. it's not coming from me. this is god's work and not mine. >> two brothers have committed to a lifetime of god's work. guiding parishioners through life and death, sin and salvation. in our self-absorbed world it's hard to imagine anyone choosing such a life. but even a jock can hear the call. >> i cannot ignore this. >> i cannot ignore this. it will not go away.
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the catholic church has struggled for decades to produce new priests, but here in michigan, the number of young men entering seminary has doubled over the past decade. they've been arming almost 30 seminarians a year. in the village of fowler, faith
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is just as important as farming. statues of the virgin mary appear in front yards. and sunday service is always packed. this tiny community alone has produced 22 priests since its inception. father dennis has been the pastor here for seven years and overseeing a flock of people who have lived here for generations. why is it flourishing here in fowler? >> i think it's deeply rooted in the community. it is amazing to how many people are really committed to preserving the faith and are passing it on to their children. >> as early as fourth grade, young boys become an integral part of services. versed in the language, ritual
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and mystery of the church. 14 year old charlie has been an altar boy since he was 9. >> what do you like about being an altar boy? >> you're right in their mass, right up with jesus and people look up to you and that's kind of a nice feeling. >> have you ever considered becoming a priest? >> i'm open to it, i don't know if i'll be a priest. >> what appeals to? you. >> it it's cool. they go to a lot of different places and have a lot of neat stories. >> has the lord spoken to you about your future much? >> not really. i pray about it, asking the lord what he wants me to be, but i haven't heard an answer yet, but you just keep on praying. >> you've got some time.
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>> yeah. >> ready? >> nice one. >> father dennis hopes to guarantee the steady interest in the priesthood by keeping the next generation focused on god. >> i think our job as parishes is to create an openness in the young people. is this something that god may be calling you to? we're aggressively trying to evangelize our young people. we provide lots of opportunities for them to encounter the lord jesus. >> so is this what you meant by evangelizing the youth? >> yeah. >> barbecue, volleyball?
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>> mm-hm. food is a great evangelization tool. this is the kind of thing we like to do with our young people, kickback and have fun with them. >> i'm just curious, have any of the young men here expressed an interest in becoming priests? >> yeah. i'd say there are about four of the guys here that have talked to me at some point about the priesthood. >> the church is encouraging these conversations with god. and even the most unlilikely candidates are heeding the call. >> god is calling everybody, not just the people who prayed in their rooms in their lives, who didn't have friends or experience dating. he calls a lot of people. and i have the grace to respond. >> 32-year-old matthias grew up in fowler. but his pursuit of the priesthood came as a surprise even to himself.
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>> when i come back here it's like back to memory lane that changed so much since i was in high school. >> back then, matthias was a typical high school jock. his life consumed by sports. when he wasn't running plays on the football field he was working on his fast pitch and trying to impress the ladies. i'm meeting father matthias at his old stomping grounds, the field where he competed as a tight end for four years. >> so were you playing football on this field when you realized that you might be interested in the priesthood? >> it wasn't really on my radar at all. i actually, just like everybody else. i wanted to play football and have fun. i mean, you work so hard, giving yourself to working out and to being good that you don't think about those type of things. you live for the friday nights, you know. >> what kinds of memories does this bring back? >> i remember just giving everything on this field, you know, just playing as if this was it. this is what high school's all about, playing sports and the girls and friends. >> you're pretty studly in high school i would imagine. >> maybe. my girlfriends would probably think so. >> yeah, because you had quite a few girlfriends in the past. >> absolutely. >> had you always thought that one day you would be married and have kids and have the white picket fence. >> absolutely.
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that's the goal. you go to college, get a job and marry. >> matthias thought he knew where his life was headed, but god had other plans. when a friend suggested they go to youth group matthias followed and everything changed. >> i started hearing the gospel for the first time in a way that i could understand. my heart started to grow in love with jesus in a way it never had before. >> matthias' passion for christ grew and followed him into college where god would find him in a relationship. he was dating samantha when he received his first call from god. >> i'm in prayer, and he said i want to you be a priest. and i'm like, no, priests are celibate. i'm like no. i said okay, if you want me to be a priest, you're going to have to have my girlfriend break up with my, because there's no
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way i'm breaking up with her. >> and that's exactly what happened. samantha broke up with matthias, but if that was a sign from god he still wasn't ready and he fell from another one he thought was the won. >> i had everything i wanted in a girl and the wife of my future children. and there was something missing, i kept getting this prompting, give everything to the lord, leave the girl of your dreams. it's very difficult. >> it's a risk. >> it's a huge risk. but that's what love is. if god is changing me, the one whom i love, the one who's changed my life, who am i to say no to god. >> but just as matthias was about to enter seminary news of the sex scandal stunned the world. >> there's two responses to evil. either i allow that evil to in a sense discourage me from doing good, or i actually use that as a motivation to do all the more
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the will of god. soy used the scandal to propel me forward into a world that is hurting. >> a priest is meant to advise people in good times and bad. to meet them in moments of vulnerability. and to take advantage of that is deplorable. i'm meeting bishop earl boya of the catholic diocese. it's his job to make sure every one of his priests are doing god's work and not abusing their power. sexual abuse happens in all communities, but this is the only community where celibacy is mandatory. do you think that that has anything to do with what has happened? >> you know, it may have something to do with it in given circumstances. i just think there's some, well, a force of evil at work in their lives that has caused them to commit these grave sins. >> do you think the church has dealt with it properly? >> not in the past as well as it should have. i think in the present, i think we're doing much better. if there's an allegation against a minor, we immediately tell the person report this to the police. >> in fact, bishop boya's diocese is no stranger to
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allegations of inappropriate conduct and a recent report has hit close to home. >> there is currently a priest under investigation here. can you comment on that at all? >> i really can't because that's still under investigation bit civil authorities, and i have to wait for them to conclude their work. >> why do you think the church has had such a problem with sexual abuse? >> well, i don't know that it has had a problem any more than the normal population, but having said that, for a priest to do this is much worse, because not only is this a physical violation, not only is it an emotional violation, it's a spiritual violation, and that's what makes it most serious and most troublesome, i think, for the church. >> in the wake of scandal, much of the world views catholic clergy with skepticism. but one young seminarian isn't
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growing up in fowler, 19 year old lee wasn't sure what he wanted to be. >> the first thing i wanted to be was an astronaut. and after that, i think i thought about farming, because it's a lot of fun. and after that is when i started praying about seminary. and god's talked to me pretty seriously since then, like this is what i should do. >> lee is completed one year of seminary and is about to enter his second. >> what was it about the priesthood that seemed interesting to you. >> i see what a priest does for people, they help people. and i, too, want to do that. the thought of that gave me an enormous amount of joy. >> what inspired lee the most were his two older brothers, father todd and father gary. >> what kind of impact did father gary and todd have on you? >> these two guys are really holy guys. they want to share god's love. they interact with others all the time. i really want to do that and do
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a lot of good. >> as a child, lee was even quieter and more reserved than todd and gary. like them, he, too, was involved in church from an early age and shaped by his community's strong faith. >> did you have aspirations of wanting to get married and have kids? >> i thought about being a father. i thought it would be a lot of fun raising kids. there's a lot of joy in that, but i felt that call. and that's where the happiness is right now. >> for his parents, agnes and bryan, it's a possible blessing a third time around. >> so you might have three priests. >> yeah. >> in your family. >> yeah. >> how do you feel about that? >> wow, wonderful. if that's what he's called to be that's where he's going to be. >> while agnes is in full support, she knows that he is considering a profession plagued
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with controversy. >> why is there a need for it? >> it's something that no one else understands. if they don't have a son in seminary. they don't understand. >> i had one person say oh, that's so sad that your son's going into the seminary, you'll never be a grandma. and i said, he's not mine. he's god's. he gave him to me for 18 years. they go, are you okay with it? i'm, like, yeah, it's not my plan. i'm okay with it. >> when todd and gary were going to attend seminary someone said that's really sad. i thought they were going to make something of themselves. and i thought, you know what? that's the person that really needs the prayers. it's not us. it's not our boys. it was that person. >> priests have got and pretty bad rap over the last ten years, and there's a lot of negative stuff that is said about priests. do you have concerns about that
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as your sons are embarking upon this journey? >> i think that that's why, you know, there's a little group, you know, we pray for them. we pray that our sons would never fail in their faith. and they never, in any way, sin against god. >> at the end of the day, these are your little boys, and they're really going to be carrying really, really heavy burdens, and people will be coming to them in their darkest places and with their deepest concerns. >> mm-hm. >> but that's where some of their greatest joy comes from, is through god's grace and the holy spirit, they're able to help these people. >> mm-hm. >> but not everyone is cut out for the priesthood. at lee's college seminary, nearly two-thirds of young men drop out. last year, lee was almost one of them. in the first few months of freshman year he was lost and homesick. >> obviously, it's a huge switch from farm life.
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there was two months where i was absolutely miserable. it was like, i don't know what i'm doing, how to do this, i felt vague, doubt, fears. when you experience those moments in seminary, their advice to you is don't the make big decisions. so i didn't. >> lee stuck that semester out. and in just a few days he returns to seminary for seven more years. >> so are you excited to go back to seminary? >> i am excited. after that first semester, i didn't think i'd ever be excited. >> lee hit his first bump in the road to priesthood. and there may be more ahead. >> i industrial a lot to learn about celibacy, it's kind of scary, going through my whole life never being married. if i become a priest, i am giving this life up. reflexes faster than the speed of thought.
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in st. paul, minnesota, lee is just a few days into his second year of college seminary.
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and already finding it an entirely different ball game. >> i got it! >> being here this year, everything is different. i have all these brothers. it's like, these are great, awesome guys. over time i realize, this is where i'm meant to be. >> while there's time to hang out with friends, prayer and study are the focus here. and sometime over the next seven years, lee hopes god will give him that final sign. >> when do you think you'll know, lee? like when do you think god will say to you, okay, you are to become a priest? >> i don't know. and that's part of like, the mystery of seminary, like when is that going to happen? some guys will know this year, some next. some won't know until their senior year. hopefully i'm not one of those. >> until that fateful moment there's always a second path for lee, one that could some day lead to a wife and kids. and even here at seminary, he's
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surrounded by temptation. the university of st. thomas is a coed school, which means that girls are everywhere. a siren song of distraction from the pursuit of a higher calling. >> so you're in seminary, but the seminary is on this college campus. >> yes. >> and so you are interacting with lots of different people, including a lot of very attractive women. >> yes, that is true. >> i'm assuming you've noticed that. >> yeah. >> is it sometimes hard to maintain focus? >> it's not that difficult. i mean, can you have wonderful, chaste relationships with women. you see a beautiful woman, it's like don't look at the parts. look at the whole, imagine she's your sister. it also helps a lot. and sometimes you just have to avert your eyes. >> i think a lot of people outside of your world are like, how the heck could he do it? i'm just sitting here for the last 20 minutes, and i'm noticing tons of hot chicks. >> people, yeah. we say that when you come to st. thomas, it's kind of a cruel joke. >> it's kind of a cruel joke? >> yeah.
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>> lee tells me like his brothers, he's never dated anyone. and if he follows through and commits to a vow of celibacy, he never will. >> there are guys in seminary now who have experienced intimacy with a woman. you haven't. but you're kind of okay right now with the fact that it could never happen? >> yep. right now i'm okay with it. >> while lee may never experience physical intimacy, father matthias has. and yet now feels blessed by its absence. >> celibacy is a gift. it's not something that someone can just voluntarily do on their own. it's got to be given from god. >> and while he could have chosen a wife, he's happier celebrating marriage as a priest. >> i've actually found as a priest more fulfillment and more joy than i ever thought possible.
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i do realize that the sacrifice is something i have to make, and it's something worth making because god is that much greater. >> you are still a human being, do you still now deal with temptations? >> oh, absolutely. everyone experiences temptations, even the greatest of saints. >> how do you deal with it? usually they're you could have children, you could be married. i just say yes, i give this to you lord, i say yes to jesus. >> over the past four years, this former ladies' man has settled into his role as a priest, learning how to overcome the obstacle of temptation. the priesthood has just thrown him a new curve ball. he's been pulled from his parish by the bishop himself to answer yet another call. just might be the one.
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in detroit, father matthias is back in seminary. >> jesus christ is worthy of all praise. we honor him. and in our weakness we pray. >> the bishop has pulled him from his parish and sent him back to school to help
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spiritually form the next generation of priests. it seems that he's being groomed for leadership. placed in this role to mentor seminarians in their quest for the priesthood. so essentially, your job is to try and really encourage seminarians? >> forming priests is one of the salt lake city, utah, was founded by the mormon church to be a utopia of clean living and conservative family values. >> we believe our body is a temple and that we should treat it as such.
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>> determining whether or not they're meant for this job requires hours of prayer and study, but it doesn't mean saying good-bye to a night out with the guys. ♪ >> yeah, come on! >> hey! >> go, lansing, yes! >> i didn't quite expect a bar in a seminary. is this typical of seminaries? >> yeah. >> it is? >> when i came here i was somewhat scandalized that the seminary had a pub, i'm like, really? but this is actually a great place for people to relax. >> watch sports, hang out. >> while all these men are wearing the collar, they're not yet priests. they have a few more years to question the call. >> what's the most difficult aspect of being a seminarian? >> are we off the record? >> on record, definitely. >> always being, like you're us under the microscope. always being looked at and judged. >> so how do you deal with that? >> we drink. >> seminary's hard, but we fall in love with jesus. we all have this relationship with him. we want to share him with the rest of the world.
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>> there is a large percentage of the population that thinks that priests are synonymous with scandal. >> the world needs priests that love jesus, that love the people. and so i want to be one of those guys that can do that. >> you need people to show people you know, that priests are holy men. they're great men, and they haven't all made these mistakes. >> it is a radical decision to become a priest, but given how scandalized the priesthood has been over the last decade, it's even more bold, but i really admire all these young men who are trying to change the perception of what it means to be a priest. this is a brotherhood. and while they're young, despite feeling the weight of societal pressure, this life brings them overwhelming joy. and they are exactly where they want to be.
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