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[ applause ] >> the president of the united states delivering about a 45-minute address before the united nations. addressing the world on critically important issues. christiane amanpour, making a very, very strong, powerful case that diplomacy as opposed to military action should be the key right now to resolving so many of these tragedies that are unfolding. >> that's right. he made an impassioned plea saying that, you know, cooperation over conflict is not weakness, it is strength. he talked about syria, saying we are not opposed to diplomacy, even with russia and iran. however, defeating isis does not mean returning to the status quo. you cannot have somebody like bashar al assad, he says, who spilsz barrel bombs filled with
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chemical weapons on his own people. the key is how to get to that. he talked to a hall probably packed with more dictators and authoritarians than democrats saying leaders who oppress and kill their own people will eventually crumble. and about ukraine, which president putin has done his best to try to put off to the side, he said, we're not trying to isolate russia or kreelt a new cold war. far from it. we're trying to uphold national law. if it can happen to crimea and ukraine, it can happen to anyone else. he talked forcefully about the success of his diplomacy with cuba, with iran. he did say with iran, as they continue to shout "death to america" that won't create more jobs and increase iran's national security. >> jim sciutto, he did almost, i think it's fair to say, on the iran nuclear deal, on the restoration of diplomatic relations with cuba, it was almost a victory lap for his diplomacy. >> it was a sales pitch for
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diplomacy. it was interesting. he started with harsh words with several countries. assad, slaughtering tens of thousands of his own people, russia calling out the sovereignty of ukraine, with china in the south china sea and even with iran, saying iran following this deal is, in his words, using violent proxies to advance their interest. as he called them out with tough words, these are countries he's working with. he said on syria he would be willing to work with anyone, including russia and iran, to solve the problem there. he has proven he's willing to work with iran. he has this nuclear deal. in effect saying, and of course he's continuing to talk to china, despite the many differences there. so, tough words for them, citing the very real difficulties that they have and differences, but proving, in effect, his point, or at least arguing for his point by saying, i will work with them if we can find a way forward and painting that as a possible path forward in places like syria, whereas he says, the blood shed continues. >> it sets the stage for the
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president's meeting today with the russian president, vladimir putin. and putin's address before the united nations presumably there will be some different messages there. >> well, there were a lot of veiled references to putin in that speech. talking about internal repression and external and foreign aggression. and saying that when you, you know, criticize and oppose ngos in your country. and then he talked in very harsh terms about russian actions in ukraine, russian actions in syria. but i think what this hall was looking for was this was president obama's really last chance to address his foreign policy agenda. talk in specifics about what he was going to do. let's face it, next year, everyone's going to be gearing up for the 2016 election and the next president. so, i think that a lot of people expected this to be an opportunity where the president was going to talk in great specifics about how he was going to particularly help this middle east region, which was not in such great shape when he came to
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office, but certainly is in a lot worse shape seven years in. to have more specifics about what he's going to do. we're going to hear from president putin a little bit later. we are expecting he's going to offer a lot of specifics about what he's going to do in syria. you've seen this russian military buildup. when the president criticizes president putin, when he talks about assad's brutal dictatorship, i think people are looking for more ideas of what the u.s. will do, not what other countries shouldn't do. hopefully we'll hear more about that this week with secretary of state kerry's meetings and president putin's meeting with obama. >> we'll be hearing from president rouhani. christiane, you interviewed him. we'll hear from him as he addresses the united nations. >> bottom line, he's come to the conclusion that assad will stay. really, the issue is, do we just try to beat isis and then get rid of assad or not?
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and those may be competing agendas. >> you heard him talk about this managed transition. >> not immediate. >> there was an understanding that, you know, eventually there needs to be more political reform and the opposition having a say, but this whole idea of managed transition, even shows that the u.s. does not expect assad to leave right away and knows that if he were, there would be a lot more chaos for isis to capitalize on. >> bashar al assad held on for four years in the face of enormous pressure internally and externally. mike rogers is with us, cnn commentator, former chair of the house intelligence, and other experts standing by. what jumped out at you? >> it seemed like a bit of a legacy speech. he missed an important -- >> i want to tell our viewers, we're showing president obama leaving the united nations.
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you'll see him walking out this door shortly. go ahead. >> i thought he missed an incredible opportunity. 8 million displaced individuals causing tremendous pressure not only across the middle east but now into europe. he just didn't seem to address it. he's trying to keep it a lofty legacy style. i heard some campaign themes drifted into this speech. again, i just thought it was a huge missed opportunity. it was that professor obama to the leaders of the world that you shouldn't be dictators and terrorists and bad people. you know, unfortunately, that's not what's going to change on the ground for these countries. so, i think you'll hear more detail from putin, who's actually making an on-the-ground realistic approach to where he thinks he can gain strength and influence across the middle east. i think we should have had a little counter to that with the president. if i were an ally, i'm not sure i'd be reassured. if i were an adversary, i'd think, he's going to do the same thing he's just done for the next 18 months, and i'll make my decisions accordingly. that's what i'd be concerned about.
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>> well, we're about to hear what president putin has on specifics. he's walking in. >> live pictures coming in. the president of russia will be delivering his major address. clearly, it will have major differences with president obama as well. we're going to continue our special coverage here on cnn. much more coming up throughout the day. much more of christiane's interview with president rouhani of iran, more of my interview with egyptian president abdal fatah el sisi. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" picks up our coverage right now. hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. let's take you live to trump tower here in new york city where donald trump, the republican front-runner is now unveiling his comprehensive tax proposal to the nation. happening right now. let's listen in.
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>> it ends the current tax treatment of speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital. changes for business. now, so important. because it's all about business. it's all about jobs. we have 93 million people in this country that are in serious trouble, that want to work, they can't work. so, for business, no business of any size from a fortune 500 company to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living from gig to gig will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. big reduction. a one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas
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at significantly discount, coming back at a significantly discount, 10%. so it comes back discounted at a 10% tax rate and ends the dee l deferral on taxes of corporate income earned abroad. now, it's called corporate inversion. it's a huge subject. i've been watching politicians now for years all talk, no action politicians. i've been watching them for years talking about bringing this money back. the number is probably $2.5 trillion. everybody agrees it should come back. republicans, democrats, everybody. they can't make a deal. they don't know how to go about making a deal. the reason companies aren't bringing it back is the tax is onerous. doesn't make sense to bring it back. in fact, many companies are leaving the united states. they're leaving our shores to go and collect their money.
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they're going, actually moving out of the united states for two reasons. the taxes are too high and because they have tremendous amounts of money they can't bring back into this country when everybody wants them to bring it back in. it's called leadership. we will have that money brought back in. as an example, i have millions of dollars overseas. i can't bring it back into this country. i file papers. we've been doing this for a year and a half. you can't get it back in. so, the money stays in other countries and that's what happens. not good for us. the level of leadership that we need to get things like this done is so important. but this is something, and i've been watching it for a long time, everybody agrees to. we also reduce or eliminate some business loopholes, many of them, actually, and deductions made unnecessary or redundant by
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the new lower tax rate on business income. the tax rate now is so low that a lot of these deductions, which are complicated, which don't make sense and which are unfair, are gone. and we phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of the business interest expense. so, we are going to give you -- we have a very complex set of papers that actually, if you know business, is not so complex. we're going to hand them out right now to the press. and i think you'll see, we have an amazing code. it will be simple. it will be easy. it will be fair. it's graduated. as you get up in income, you pay a little more. some of the very unfair deductions that certain people have been given who make a lot of money will not be available any longer. but i actually believe they'll do better because i think the
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economy will grow. it will grow rapidly. and we'll have something very special. now, with all of that being said, and before we take some questions, we have to cut the costs of what's going on in this country. if you look at what we're doing and the money we're spending, i read where a washer -- you know what a washer is? nuts, bolts, a washer. to send from one state to another, it was a 19-cent washer and it costs 900-some-odd thousands dollars to ship it. a hammer that you can buy in a store for a tiny amount of money. we will run this country properly. there is so much money to be saved. we're reducing taxes but at the same time f i win, if i become president, we will be able to
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cut so much money and have a better country. we won't be losing anything other than we'll be balancing budgets and getting them where they should be. so, this is a plan that's simple, that's a major reduction. i think people are going to be very happy. we've already had some very good reviews. i did the plan with some of the leading scholars and economists and tax experts that there are in this country. they love it. they say, why hasn't this been done before? and this is my wheelhouse. that's what i do well. the economy is what i do well. whenever they do polls, i always come out way above everybody else on the economy. and on leadership, by the way, but i won't say that. so, if anybody has -- [ applause ] >> wow. >> thank you.
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that's amazing. that's. so press was actually clapping. i never saw that. i don't think i've ever seen that before. why don't we take some questions from the press. yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ] >> no, i'm not going to do that yet. i have to get their approval. but we've had some of the top people in the country work on this 37 we're looking at 3%. it could be 5%, even 6%. we'll have growth that could be tremendous. by the way, if we have more than 3%, these numbers are really spectacular. and one of the things they don't take into account in any big league fashion is the cutting. there is so much waste in government that i believe when i get in there, i'll be able to cut, without losing anything, to cut tremendous amounts off of the -- and we're not even showing anything for that. so, they're very conservative numbers. yes, sarah. >> the tax rate from nearly 40% to 25%. how would that impact your
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taxes? would you -- >> my taxes -- my taxes will -- first of all, i have a much simpler tax statement. it will be much simpler. when i do my return, it will be -- my returns go up to the ceiling and beyond. which is ridiculous. and you spend millions of dollars at a high level on lawyers, accountants, and everything else. we to want simplify them to a tremendous level. the bracket of 25, the big difference is, many of the loopholes and many of the deductions, which are old, are antiquated in many cases, or are put there because a lot of people that get these deductions are contributed to hillary, they're contributing to bush, they're contributing to every candidate but trump, because i'm not taking any money. i'm self-funding. and these people want these deductions. there will be people -- we're reducing taxes, but believe me, there will be people in the very upper echelons that won't be thrilled with this. we're taking away deductions and
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that's one of the reasons we're able to lower it so. >> reporter: but this still looks like a pretty big tax cut for those at the -- >> this is actually a tax reduction. a big tax reduction. including for the upper income. i believe the economy will do so well that even though they won't be getting certain deductions, which aren't fair for them to be getting, will do better. >> reporter: so will your -- >> yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: higher deficits and aggravates income inequality. >> i just think this is a common sense approach. we could say supply side. you could say there's 15 different names given out for different reductions or increases. i don't think it's supply side or anything else. i think this is a common sense, well thought out tax proposal that's going to trigger the economy, going to make everybody go back and really want to work.
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it's going to create tremendous numbers of jobs. one of the other things that i'm coupling this with is, if i become president, i'm going to renegotiate our trade deals, because our trade deals are not sustainable by this country. not sustainable. we cannot continue to let our jobs go to all the different countries. there's not a country we negotiate with that doesn't make a better deal. we lose money with everything. i'm also going to renegotiate some of our military costs because we protect south korea, we protect germany, we protect some of the wealthiest countries in the world, saudi arabia, we protect everybody, we protect everybody, and we don't get reimbursement. we lose on everything. we lose on everything. so, we're going to negotiate and renegotiate trade deals, military deals, many other deals that's going to get the costs down for running our country very significantly. i'm not showing a big number in that, but i believe that if i
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become president, those numbers are going to be massive. as an example, saudi arabia, they make $1 billion a day. we protect them. so, we need help. we're losing a tremendous amount of money on a yearly basis and we owe $19 trillion. i used to say 18 for the last six, seven months. now it's 19. and it's only going up. yes, tom? >> reporter: this morning senator rubio described your campaign as a freak show. do you take a lot -- >> look, look. senator rubio is a lightweight. we understand that. he wouldn't be able to do this. he wouldn't know a trade deal from any ordeal. and what certain people are trying to do is they're trying to take -- we just went up in the last poll. we went up two points in the last poll. we continue to go up. in the nbc poll i think we went from 26 to 29. we're going up very strongly in the polls. they don't know what to do about it. i built a great company. you'll see that in "60 minutes" last night. i built a great company, a
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phenomenal company, with very little debt, tremendous cash flow. i'm funding my own campaign. guys like rubio he desperately needs money. ask the car dealer in florida, ask the people that support him. and a guy like rubio, and others, i don't want to single him out, you're singling him out, but they're largely controlled by their donors, the special interests and, frankly, more than anybody else, the lobbyists. i've turned down millions and millions of dollars. from lobbyists and special interests because it's not the right thing. it's just not right. and that seems to be resonating vel strongly. yes? [ applause ] >> thank you, thank you. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: people say you have a habit of getting a bill from that person, a vendor, call them up -- >> i negotiate. it's true. i get bills from people and negotiate. is that a bad thing?
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the country should do that. [ inaudible ] >> yes, i would bring that same attitude to the white house. she says, i have a habit, when you get a bill, you call up and negotiate. to me, that's a compliment. i want to take that thinking to the white house. i bet you we could save 20% of our budget. we could save a tremendous amount. that has to be the attitude our country has. you can't spend millions and millions of dollars on doing something that you can do for $2,000. you know, when you look at costs. we just spent $1 million building a soccer field, okay? a soccer field for our prisoners that happen to be in guantanamo, okay? i don't like that. what do you need a million dollars for? level out the surface. let them play, if they have to play at all. what do you need to spend $1 million? we just spent -- there's a story today. $1 million on a soccer field? how do you spend $1 million
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doing a soccer field? you have a level piece of land. throw them a ball. let them play soccer f they have to play at all. why are they playing soccer is my question. okay. >> all right. listening right there, donald trump unveiling his comprehensive n his words, new tax policy. his new tax plan, obviously. he's taking questions from the press right now. we'll have much more coverage of this right after a break. i'm caridee. i've had moderate to severe plaque psoriasis most of my life. but that hasn't stopped me from modeling. my doctor told me about stelara® it helps keep my skin clearer. with only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses... ...stelara® helps me be in season. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections. some serious infections require hospitalization. before starting stelara® your doctor should test for tuberculosis. stelara® may increase your risk of cancer. always tell your doctor if you have any sign of infection, have had cancer, or if you develop any new skin growths. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems including headaches, seizures, confusion
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our breaking news -- donald
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trump unveiling his tax plan. taking questions from reporters right now. >> i watch all politicians and they say, i fight like hell to pay as little as possible. can they say that? i'm not a politician. i fight like hell always because it's an expense. and, you know, i feel -- and i fight. i have the best lawyers. and the best accountants and i fight. and i pay. but it's an expense. and, frankly, i would feel differently if this country were spending the money wisely instead of throwing it down the drain. our country spends our money so stupidly. i will tell you that -- i can speak for myself, i pay a lot have tax, but i fight like hell to make it as low as possible, but i would feel a lot differently if our leadership was such that i respected the decisions. all you have to do is look at a list of the things that our government is spending money on
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right now and you don't feel so good about our country. yes? [ inaudible ] >> i'll tell you what in terms of income inequality, we're going to create a lot of jobs. you know, right now we have a false 5.4, 5.3, 5.6, every month it's different. it is such a phoney number. because when people look and look and look, and then they give up looking for a job, they're taken off the roll so the number isn't reflective. i've seen numbers of 24%. i actually saw a number of 42% unemployment. 42%! and it could be. because when you're looking for a job and you go around and you look and you look and you fight and you want to work and you want to take care of your family, and then you can't get the job, and you know what i'm talking about because you're shaking your head, and you can't get the job, essentially for
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statistical purposes you are considered employed. then i read every time it comes out, i hear, 5.3% unemployment. that is the biggest joke there is in this country. that number is so false. you know, people ask, how come trump is doing so well and carson and others? how come they're -- you know why they're doing well? because people are tired of political speak. they're tired of that. and the worst example of it, one of the worst examples, is the phoney unemployment rate. the unemployment rate is probably 20%. but i will tell you, you have some great economists that will tell you it's 30, 32%. the highest i've heard so far is 42%. there's anger out there at the job picture. now, one other thing, with that being said, china, japan, mexico, brazil, these countries are all taking our jobs.
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like we're a bunch of babies. that will stop. people will treat us fairly if i become president. we're losing our jobs. we're losing our base. we're losing our manufacturing. all of that will stop. yeah, go ahead. [ in. >> we're listening to donald trump take questions from reporters. one more quick break. more to come from mr. trump. ♪ (stranger) good mornin'! ♪ (store p.a.) attention shoppers, there's a lost couple in the men's department. (vo) there's a great big un-khaki world out there. explore it in a subaru crosstrek. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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our breaking news. we've been watching donald trump unveil his new tax plan talking at trump tower. talked for 30 minutes. this tax plan would simplify the tax code. cutting it to four income tax rates. would also cut corporate tax raises and cut some loopholes. >> so many people have been calling on donald trump to put some substance behind his style. we learned his big tax policy. he laid it out here this morning. let's discuss all of this. let's bring in our panel. kevin sheridan, former senior adviser for mitt romney's presidential campaign, along with assistant managing editor of business and economics at "time" magazine, and gloria borger and political commentator paul begala and christine romans. as john was saying, a lot to go
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through. he laid out his tax policy. the big headline, four tax rates, making them easier and fair for everyone. what is your big stayaway from trump? >> this is aspirational. all of these are aspirational. but he wants to cut taxes for everyone. and he wants to give away some of the goodies for the hedge fund managers but no hedge fund manager is going to cry over this. he's lowering the tax rate -- >> you say that because hedge fund managers are getting away with murder and they're not going to like my plan. >> talking about cutting capital gains tax, talking about eliminating the death tax, as he calls, it estate tax, and slashing the top rate to 25%. those are goodies for rich people. there are goodies for everybody. he wants to increase the percentage of americans who pay no tax at all. right now about 36% of americans pay no federal income tax. under this plan half of americans, half of americans would pay no federal income tax at all.
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>> this will be look at independent groups like all tax proposals. gloria, i wonder if i can ask you, forgetting the policy side of it, the politics are clear. he wants to appeal to a broader audience than some traditional republican candidates have in the past. >> sure. what he keeps going after and talks about it all the time is the wall street contingent here. we know that he's a businessman who does a lot of deals with wall street. you know, eliminating the carried interest deduction for hedge fund managers is a big deal. i was just speaking with a congressional source this morning who said to me, expect populous, like elizabeth warren, liberal democrat, to jump right on this and endorse this part of donald trump's plan. i mean, why not, right? so he has a little bit of something for everyone in this and donald trump can be seen to be anti-wall street and
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pro-middle class, pro-poor at the same time. >> kevin, getting an endorsement from elizabeth war on your tax plan, i don't think that's anything any republican candidate would accept. some are going to see elements of this plan and say, this is a republican presidential candidate who is possibly raising taxes on certain folks, the wealthiest americans. republican raising taxes, possibly? >> yeah. he's speaking in a populous tone, obviously. and i think he's trying to, as your other guest said, give something to everyone. i was struck he didn't really -- although this is a new phase for his campaign, he really didn't change his defense of his -- when he was speaking in defense of his plan. he didn't change his tone at all. he still blames china, blames mexico, makes big promises. doesn't necessarily sound like he can keep. so, campaign plans are always a little bit written in sand. so, we'll have to see whether or not any of this would ever get passed anyway. i think, you know, economists
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will probably tell you this is not exactly going to work. >> so, one of the things donald trump said is the economy is in his wheelhouse. we'll ask our experts, is it? stay with us. we'll be right back.
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donald trump unveiling his tax plan for america at trump tower. wrapping up minutes ago. he took questions from the press including our very own sarah murray, who was in the room, joins us live. your takeaways. >> reporter: well, sure. i think it was interesting to see donald trump come out and say, he's not a populist, this is just a common sense approach. like you were saying, this is a tax plan that offers a little something for everyone. lower rates across the board. but that's something that will
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help middle class families as well as he admits the wealthy. what i thought was very interesting is i asked donald trump what this would do to his effective tax rate and he sort of dodged the question. he wouldn't say what his tax rate is now. he wouldn't say whether his tab would go up or down despite earlier saying this would cost him a fortune. so, i think it is an open question, whether this is the kind of plan that will actually make wealthy individuals pay more. that was sort of the one of the teases he put out weeks ago saying, it will help middle class families and kind of hit the rich and ask them to pony up a little bit more, john. >> all right, sara. sa sara murray live at trump tower, looking for answers from donald trump, not always getting them. >> always the same. sounds like a politician in that regard. let's bring in the rest of our panel. we've been talking about a lot of individual income tax rates, but on the business side, there's a lot for business to chew on. lowering business tax rate to 15% and also the tax on profits overseas. will it work?
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what do you think? >> it certainly will not create jobs. we know because we did this before. we did this in 2004. we had what's called a tax holiday where companies were allowed to take that cash they've been parking in overseas bank accounts and bring it back for a lower than average corporate rate. now, most of this did not go into r&d or new factories or retraining workers. it went into share buybacks and dividend payments. which makes markets go up, which will make mr. trump happy, but not create jobs. >> lowering the corporate tax rate is what everyone wants. he's appealing there to wall street. they want lower tax rates. he says 15%. that's among the lowest. >> his plan assumes 3% growth but you could see 5% or 6%. paul begala, i want to bring you in here. you know a little about about politics. i want to grade trump's performance here, because unlike past speeches, he did read from his notes here because i imagine he wanted to get the specifics
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right. >> which was unusual. >> he has a fluency when talking about the economy. he does have an ability to explain things in a way that people understand. and this wasn't an unserious proposal. >> no, it -- and it was fascinating to me. first, you know, john, our viewers should know, i advise a pro-hillary superpac. even as a hillary guy, his talent is undeniable. donald trump, we think about him as a real estate mogul, and he is. he has spent more time on television than any candidate for president since ronald reagan. he knows that medium. so he rolls this out. it was both populist and plutocratic. huge tax cuts for the rich. do you away with estate tax, which, by the way, no one pays unless they're inheriting from an estate of $5.4 million for a single person,11 million for a married couple. >> except you. >> except for wealthy anchors,
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you have to worry about that. working stiffs don't. he has big giveaways for the rich and populist language. i was smiling because it's so donald trump. he's clearly a smart guy. a brilliant guy. he clearly knows a lot about this. then he pops off and says, unemployment is more like 30 or 32 or 42 -- at the height of the great depression, it was that 25%. that's unemployment trutherism. that's nutty. at the same time he's trying to be serious but he can't help himself to go to that radical high pe higher. ably. i love it. we should have him on more. >> thank you for your programming note when you say all these candidates their tax policies are written in sand because, obviously, the president cannot just say, this is tax policy, when they take office. i want to get, in your -- from your political lens, what impact this announcement is going to have on the race, you believe? when you look at the latest nbc
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news/wall street journal poll, trump right now is neck and neck with ben carson at 21% and 20% respectively. they're neck and neck. right behind them you've got rubio and fiorina tied at 11%. what do you think an announcement like this will have on donald trump's numbers amongst republican primary voters? >> like everything else with donald trump, this will probably shine a line on other candidates' proposals as well and they'll have to debate the donald trump plan and that will be the centerpiece of kind of a discussion on economic plans going forward. the other candidates already have plans out there, but that's just the nature of this psych. you know, i think trump and carson are now effectively tied in some polls. but the real movement is between carly fiorina, marco rubio, who have -- who have gone up dramatically. whether or not those establishment, one foot in each camp establishment and kind of outsider candidates can actually
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bridge -- you know, put together a coalition that can take on whoever the outsider is between carson and trump. >> donald trump says marco rubio is a lightweight. just said that today. and said, rubio wouldn't know how to do this. >> rubio first called it a freak show, the trump freak show he wants no part of. >> thank you all so much for joining us. pretty interesting, pretty interesting moments for donald trump right there. if you have not had enough, there's so much more. be sure to tune in at 7:00 p.m. eastern, cnn's erin burnett will sit down one-on-one with donald trump. they'll talk about about tax plan and more. all eyes will be on president obama and russian president vladimir putin when they come face to face. the drama behind that closed-door meeting ahead. plus, i've got to tell you, one of the most astounding pieces of breaking news i've seen in a long time, mars, lick ward water on mars. this is big news.
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president obama and russian president vladimir putin are meeting face-to-face here in york, and their the first formal sit-down in two years. president obama spoke at the u.n. general assembly a short time ago and strong words coming from thet president.
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and vladimir putin is scheduled to speak in a short time, and now it comes at a time when there is pivotal time with syria and iran and the fight of isis as russia is building up the military presence in war-torn syria as they continue to back syria's president ba shir al assad. >> and so at a speech at the united nations, the united states talked about working with russia tot battle isis. >> the united states is prepared to work with any nation including russia and iran to reresolve the conflict, but we must recognize that there cannot be after so is much bloodshed and so much carnage a return to the pre-war status quo. there is no room for accommodating an apocalyptic group like isis, and we, the
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united states, make no apology for usinging a broad coalition for going after him. >> and now, in 2008 the current president of odessa of ukraine is a outspoken critic of president putin, and i would like to read to you a statement of john mccain who says that he is upset that president obama is meeting with with president putin is as misguided as it is unnecessary. it plays right into putin's hands by breaking his international isolation, undermining the u.s. policy, and legitimizing putin's destabilizing behavior, from dismemb dismembering ukraine to propping
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bashar al assad. do you agree, is sir? >> well, i tried to find the license to the truth, and that which are afraid of their own people, when he said that this nation has failed talking about russia. when he goes to the meeting, the president is fully aware that he is going to meet with the head of state that they are on the verge of failing, and so whent president putin certainly, and you know, when senator mccain has a point from his point that putin will try to sell the meeting as the fact that the trying to do this all of the time, cracking under the sanctions with the unity of the west, and that the fact of the meeting, itself, he will try to sell it as the victor, but however, if president obama keeps the talks strictly as he said today when he spoke about the fact that he cannot allow
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the nations to continue to impose their will on the smaller ones speaking of ukraine occupied by russia and mentioned crimea which is important, and georgia which is also occupied by russia, but it is not mentioned there, but by u.s. officials in other venue, and if he keeps going with this message, then putin will fail to des design this meeting as the end of the diplomatic isolation. and nobody is meeting with him sh, and that is a strong and di low matic standing of him in russia. >> i want to ask about the meetingb because it is assumed that one of the two topics coming up with the president is the new intelligence agreement between iraq, russia, syria and iran. does this deputy secretary of state anthony blinken was asked about it, and how it would brought up in the meeting, and listen to what he said.
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>> if countries are going to be focusing on the common enemy which isi isil which is a good and proper thing, but if they are taking means to prop up bashar a al assl assad, then it. >> what is your thought on that? >> well, he is making trouble by sending the warplanes to syria, and prop up the regime of bashar al assad, and even at the meet ing that he we assess that he is going to the contradictory against the u.s. position, because bashar a al assad is still in power, and when we talk about the common partners, we have to keep in mind that russia is the largest country in the
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world, and it is the largest to attack the world as being the largest country in europe. and by itself that comes after the fact that, you know, he is em boe emboldened to make this attack afterwards there is a chemical weapons in syria that the gave putin's own sense of pun ti to get away with anything, and so we should be aware of that experience as well. and ukraine, they want the nuclear weapons and the guarantees from the united states, and major western power, and we should expect and accept major help, and of course, president obama has been very successful in mobimobilizing th sanction, and president merkel as well, but it is fortunate that the united states will be having a real defensive weapon to protect itself, so when we
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talk about partnerships, russia is not interested in that. they are interested in making trouble, and selling this in order to prop up their positions. look, from my experience of dealing with putin, every time he kept indicating to us that, he always told us, look, don't tell too much to the west or the united states, because they will always find bigger topics with them, and they will always go to which is the bigger topics and sell you out. i don't believe in the selling you out, but that is the position of rush sharks and they believe they have found another topic to divert from ukraine and they want to with be quietly in the dark to kill the ukrainian democracy, and undermine the full region and take over. and it is very important to make that point very strongly at that future meet iing.
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