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more to come tonight from bill clinton. plus donald trump speaking his mind tonight. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. trump tangle with bill o'reilly on fox news. donald trump calling marco rubio a clown. guess who gets the last word? >> it's the clown stuff that's not fine. you can understand that. >> but he hit me very viciously. >> plus bill clinton says this about the trump brand. >> the thing about branding is you don't have to be -- you could be fact free. >> also the rise of dr. ben carson. is his campaign about to take
off? >> we've had over 550,000 donations, just blowing everybody out of the water. >> and a message on black lives matter that may surprise you. >> don, i'm going to say it straight and i'm going to hurt some feelings but this is the truth. >> we're going to get to all of that tonight but i want to begin with donald trump. joining me is sam clovis, national chairman of the trump campaign. good evening. how are you doing? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> i'm good. donald trump ended himself boycott of fox news. he was asked about his high unfavorability in the poll numbers. >> i've done well at getting the unfavorables much better. if you look at new hampshire, i'm doing great, very positive. iowa, the places that i'm going to a lot, south carolina, i'm doing great in that category.
so i think when people see me, when they see i want to make america great again, they all of a sudden say, you know, we really like him. >> so, sam, that was mr. trump's response. what do you think's behind these numbers? >> well, i haven't seen the numbers. i guess that's probably my fault for not having looked at those. ephs busy all day working on a particular project for the campaign. i think it has a lot to do with the personality. you're dealing with a person who is very direct, very bill clinton and they're used to politician who is will say whatever they have to say to get elected and i think what's really impresses people when they get a chance to go to a rally with mr. trump or be at a campaign event with mr. trump, they find out this is really a sincere man, a man who speaks the truth and he speaks truth to power. i think that's what's really incredible here is that he is about empowering the american people to change the status quo
in washington d.c. >> so you're saying that most of the candidates, most politicians pander. >> yeah. >> i got to ask you though, your boss admitted to my colleague erin burnett, these are his words, that the attacks against his fellow candidates can be a little childish. the question is why then do it when you're the front-runner? >> i think you'd have to talk to mr. trump about that. my position here is to make sure that we have a good set of policies and we're building those and we're rolling those out. it's to make sure we sin to have a great ground game building in all of the early states and we're doing that and make sure we have the right hires and make sure we're out there with the right message and talking to the american people in terms that they understand and not on to educate them but to help uplift them and to make sure that they're aware that this is a campaign that's about the positive aspects of this country and about what's going to make
this country great again. >> do you think people -- you say people are showing up because he's authentic, he's not pandering. do you think they're hearing enough specifics? you know that's been a criticism. i'm not the first one to ask you these questions. >> i think it's fascinating that people continue to ask for specifics and then when we offer specifics, we get the living crap kicked out of us because we offer specifics they doesnn't ae with. take a look at the tax plan. it's incredible. i was listening to people on your show last night, don, by the way that were sitting there talking about the fact that it's trillions of dollars, we can't pay for it. what the people look at is they're looking at a traditional, conventional view of reforming the tax code. just simply cutting rates, that isn't what this tax plan is about. this tax plan is about
streamlining the tax code, about refining the tax code, taking it down from an incredible 80,000 pages that is full of carve-outs for special interest and then providing the best special interest, the american people, the best positive outcomes of that and getting rid of all of this pandering that goes out to special interest. that's what this tax code's about. people have to stop thinking in conventional terms. when we're offering ideas on the second amendment and we're going to be offering ideas on health care and some of these other great issues that we have -- >> well, he's given -- he's done taxes but that's why we like to have a representative from all sides and a representative from the campaign. we had someone booked but he had a long day. we'll have you today and him tomorrow and figure you can explain it. take a look at this tweet from dump about rand paul. it says, "prediction: rand paul
has been driven out of the race by my statements about him -- he will announce soon. 1%. rand called donald trump a clown yesterday. do you think this is why he's so focused now on rand paul, because of that comment? >> i think i saw something the other night that one of the comme commentators on another network that said name one instance where mr. trump threw the first punch and that person could not find a single instance when that took place. and i think that what we really see in a race where we have a large number of people is we see a lot of sharm elbows. i've been in political campaigns myself and i know the sharp elbows come out. sometimes you have situations where somebody will say something and somebody will say something back and the issue is between them, but what happens is because the media are looking for anything to raise rating or
to raise the titillation factor, rather than focusing on a campaign or may not be as organized as some people think or doing as well as some people think so rather than looking at structural and policy issues, they want to focus on the personal aspect. i think that -- frankly, it comes around to being just lazy. >> i just said we ask you about the specifics and then you said, well, then you ask us for more specific ps. >> well, did you not see the specifics on the tax plan? do you not understand -- >> of course. >> i thought that was a pretty good plan. >> of course we did but of american people want to know what he's going to do if he wins and i think that's our job to do it. i'm not arguing with you but we do at that sk about specifics and we do talk about policy here. mr. trump likes to talk about polls. he's in a statistical tie now with dr. ben carson.
mr. trump even said this morning this is the ebb and flow, you're going to see an ebb and flow to the poll numbers. do you think he's prepared for this tough battle ahead of him? >> yes, i do. frankly, that was one poll. if you look at the real clear politics average i think mr. trump still holds a 6-plus point lead across the index there. look, i've been through this myself and i can be very up front about this, polls move dramatically at times depending on polling numbers. i teach statistics. my day job i'm a college professor and a professor of economics, and i end up sometimes to have to teach statistics. and one of the things we teach in our statistics class is to make sure that you have an appropriate sample. and i looked at some of these polling numbers here and we're looking at samples of under 300 people. and, don, you've been in this
business long enough to know that's not a very representative sample. when you have margins of error of 6.5%, that's not a very -- i don't know if you can call that trustworthy or not. i would prefer to see samples in the thousand frame or higher and a little closer margin of error. that says to me that we've done due diligence on the polling. if you can go out -- you can get 250 people at the mall if that's what you want to do. >> well, people at the mall vote, too, sam. i understand what you're saying. i think as we move further along, you'll start to see a bigger number of people, bigger sampling. >> don, let me finish up here. i think your point is an excellent one, though. i think what we're looking at is we are going to see an ebb and flow and we're going to see a rise and fall, we're going to see tightening and loosening and if we hang on every poll that
comes out date y to day, i thin we're going to miss the big picture. we ought to look at the big picture nationally and how each candidate is doing in each state and that's going to give us a representative picture. >> are you talking to me or are you talking to donald trump? i know he looks at the polls every day. he mentions them in every interview. >> well, frankly, it's my job to look at them, too. >> all right, sam. i thank you for coming on. talk to you soon. sam clovis, co-chairman of donald trump's campaign and policy adviser. >> now, mercedes schlapp an and mercedes. >> i don't really know him.
all of a sudden he attacks me about nothing but really attacked me quite viciously and i fought back. again, i'm a counterpuncher. he hit me all of a sudden. same thing with rand paul. rand paul was so nice. >> is calling him a clown, that's not presidential. final question. >> okay, listen, excuse me, bill. he was a member of the gang of eight, which was a disaster. he was totally weak on immigration. >> and that's fine. >> he hasn't changed. >> but it's the clown stuff that's not fine. >> last question. >> okay, i can understand that. >> okay, good. >> but he hit me very viciously. >> so right when he seems to accept that maybe calling the gop rival a clown isn't presidential, he still sticks to his guns about being attacked first. >> i don't know, though. it sounded like there at the end he may have acquiesced just a little bit, which is more than
we've seen him acquiesce about anything. this stuff is all about style. everybody has their different style. donald trump has his style. his style is to be very brusqk, in your face. one of the other campaigns referred to donald trump as being the clown show, i think it was marco rubio. >> the freak so. >> freak show. is that unpresidential? yes, it is. the real difference is the style in which he does it. it's working for him. maybe it rubs some people the wrong way but if it works, it works. >> we've got the freak show, i'm sure the clown comment. remember we had the jack ass comment, lindsay graham. you remember that? but you hear trump say "he started it."
>> it sounds like my house with my girls, "mom, he hit me." >> it can be childish. >> the fact is this has become a campaign of personality and insult. it keeps us all in tuned on what's going on on the gop side of the race. we're not paying attention to what's going on on the democratic side of the race. why? because they're rolling up their sleeves, throwing the punches. the problem is we have to go back to the issues. governor jeb bush rolled out his energy plan. we're not covering that that much. we're focused on the fact that donald trump is going back and forth on calling marco rubio a clown. i think it's not presidential. >> van, should democrats being loving this? it kind of takes the edge off saying i can kind of just watch this go by a little bit. >> you're split. when you're a democrat, you watch this stuff and you shake your head and think to yourself
how can one person, fine, he's a billionaire, has the tv show, how can he drag an entire party down to insult comedy? and at the same time it's terrifying because i do think the american people may be adapting to this kind of reality television, you know, survivor style of politics while actually there are things to discuss. i think bush's energy policy -- >> is that necessarily a bad thing, though? when you think about it? there are people now who are at least engaged in the process. >> that's right. >> there are people watching "real housewives," i guess they're engaged, too. but i don't know if that's going to make the economy work any better. >> van, i'm sure you have complained that more people vote on "american idol" or "the apprentice" than actually go out and vote. now those people are engaged so why are you complaining? >> i'm only complaining because at a certain point, the insult
comedy marathon, the gop thing, is actually masking real problems with the gop positions. energy policy from bush, terrible. >> how can it be terrible? come on, van. you want to talk about bernie sanders' plan about adding trillions of dollars to the federal government and hillary clinton's of adding more taxes? >> it a fight, charles. it's a fight. >> trump wants to do $12 trillion worth of damage. i was upset with rubio with $3 trillion. there's horrible policies going on but we're not noticing that because we're dealing with these crazy insults. >> this is bill clinton talking about the name calling as well. listen to this. >> i think they believe that authenticity is created by making your campaign look as much like a reality tv show as possible. i really do. and so they think that real voters have a limited band width
for policies and i think when the field whittles down, it will get more serious. the american people deserve some sense of what the heck you're going to do if you actually get the job. the day after you kp take the oath of office, you can't level an insult or you're not on an episode of "survivor." >> bill clinton is a masterful politician. he assumes authenticity is something to be created and that right there sums up his entire political career. >> i think bill clinton started the reality show with the monica lewinsky scandal in the white house. >> that's lovely. wow. go ahead. >> i would say there's a reason that obama called them the secretary of explaining stuff. that's exactly what's going on.
i would rather see bill clinton talking about the genome than donald trump calling people names. >> that was at the clint global initiative today by the way. >> he was brilliant and so was erin burnett. >> thank you. >> you're coming back? >> we're coming back. the interview's not over. >> this interview is over. i'm going to sit down with donald trump one-on-one right here tomorrow night. i want everybody to stick around. when we come right back, the candidate breathing donald trump's neck, ben carson, whose anti-muslim comments don't seem to have hurt him. are supporters putting their money where their mouths are? >> i 100% refuse to loick the boots of billionaires or millionaires or get into bed with special interest groups. [ applause ] the microsoft cloud gives our team the power
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ben carson's on the rise in the republican race. the latest national poll from nbc news and "the wall street journal" puts him neck and neck with donald trump. we're joined by dean, columnist for the "daily beast." welcome, dean. you first. dr. carson was on "the kelly file tonight." he was asked about your column where you say this campaign is the most racist we've seen in history. here's his take.
>> well, isn't that what the leftist always do? when they can't find anything else to talk about, they drop back to racism. that's their standard defense. and it's so silly when you stop and think about it. you know, what i've talked about is about a system of living, which islam is. it has nothing to do with race. you know, there are people of lots of different races who embrace that. and as i've said before, it really doesn't matter what a person's religion is if, in fact, they're willing to accept the american standards, american principles, american values and to subjugate with religion.
>> he's saying the left is always going back to racism. that's the fallback. >> bigotry was the theme of my article, not racism, because i'm certainly aware of that muslim can be all different races. that's not really the point. the point is ben carson now has said not about a muslim president or not -- >> the headline is "gop's 2015 festival of hate is already the most racist presidential campaign ever." >> to be blunt and candid, i don't write the headlines. i write the body of the argument, which is clearly about bigotry. i wish they were not spewing anti-muslim, andy latino, jeb bush on black people want free stuff over the weekend. ted cruz, a jihad against
christians. >> you think this is worse than goldwater, worse than nixon? >> i think it's changed. i put in my article -- >> do you think it worse than 2008? people were saying there's so many races things being said about the obamas. >> that was much more coded. you didn't have presidential candidates -- you didn't have john mccain saying that. you have donald trump saying latino mexicans rapists and drug dealers are coming in. ben car sson saying because of faith, i shouldn't have the same rights as other americans, gays are waging a jihad. as a muslim, let me give advice to the gop. you don't want to be defined by your worst examples in the extremists. >> that's what they're saying about muslims. >> exactly. i'm telling you -- i'm fighting that all the time. we are all fighting it.
>> go ahead, mercedes. >> two points. absolutely the gop, whoever the candidate is is going to need to broaden their coalition, bring in hispanics. muslims on a lot of social issues are really more along the lines of republicans than democrats. absolutely we need to build on that coalition and messaging matter, word matter. can you also argue that hillary clinton, if you want to play it both sides, is she a bigot for going after christians because she believes they need to change their deep religious convictions because they don't agree on abortions? >> she never said that. >> yes, she did. >> i don't remember her saying that. >> i'm happy to send you the article. yes, she did say that. >> we'll take it. charles, what's your take? >> bigotry is a very, very serious thing. it's a very, very grayed issue. belittling it and making a joke out of it and talking about it like this race is somehow bigoted because donald trump wants to enforce immigration
laws reduces the value and the meaning of the word bigoted. i would suggest that maybe dan open up a history book and learn a little bit about the history in this country. >> i think that's unfair. >> the elections and bigotry and you would learn -- >> are you telling me it's not bigotry to say muslims don't share the same values as americans? you're saying it not bigotry -- >> hang on, one at a time. >> are you saying it's not bigotry to say that muslims have less rights because of our faith? >> i was deeply disturbed by dr. carson's comment. listen, everybody takes the same oath when you become the president, when you become any elected official to uphold the constitution. to start going through and picking out this group and that group we are especially concerned about you is totally unfair. we have muslims right now fighting in our military. we have muslims right now
teaching in our schools who are doing a brilliant job. to suggest there's some special criteria they have to have that no one else has to have, that's not fair. every religion has nutty principles and nutty people in it but -- >> we're out of time. the man who says the black lives movement is stuck in 1965, we'll ask him what he means by that when we come back. 1965, we'll ask him what he
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black lives matter activists have become a force to be reckoned with on the campaign trail. in an article on "the daily beast," the reporter says black lives matter activists are living in the past. i always found your articles fascinating. i think you said they're living in 1965, 2015 sort of activists are living in 1965. why do you say that? >> because there's the idea that
the black guy's biggest problem is the one white cop. the black guy was in much mover danger of being killed than another black guy from the neighborhood. everybody wants to focus on the white cop only, out of the sense that our job was to fight racism, which it was in 1965. today if we're talking about what ails the black community, racism is one thing, there is racism that happens between the black man and the cop but there's another huge problem about blacks killing other blacks. >> you say the group wants to talk about racism but it's not interested in the truth. the truth is it not the biggest
problem facing black america. here is the statistics. this year alone chicago almost 80% of the people killed have been black. in baltimore the figure is 216 black people versus 11 white. in philadelphia 200 black people versus 44 white, most by other black people. do you think the organization is willfully ignoring this? or is it just not their mission make. maybe it's just not their mission. >> it should be their mission. to have an organization in 2015 fighting only for the black lives that are taken by whites is arbitrary because we're trying to improve conditions in the black community. and when it comes to murder, these people can't do everything. they can't change eat eating habits, and all the other things. why would we focus on only murder by white cops? we're stug on the notion to continue the strug of the 1965, we have to focus on what white
people are doing wrong. there's this beautiful argument made that it's the state murdering rather than citizens and it's more important that the state does it. no. that's throwing a political science term around. imagine telling a woman in philadelphia who has lost two boys to gang warfare, well, that's really sad, mrs. williams, but we're more interested in what the state did. that doesn't make sense. >> i've often thought that sometimes by focusing so much on white people, it's almost sort of controlling because you're focused on what white people are doing to black people so much that you become obsessed with it. >> you create a brand new reality where to be black in 2015 is still to be living with the white person's foot on your neck. and, you know, that's an interesting idea, it can sell a lot of books but the truth of the matter is it's different now. that doesn't mean racism is gone but it's different. >> so why does this thing persist that you talk about, the
essence of your article? >> don, i'm going to say it straight and i'm going to hurt some feelings but this is the truth. a great many white people really don't want to be racist and they will allow what they say to depart from what they believe because they feel that the most important way they can show that they're good people is to show they're not racist. there's that dissonance. i think for us because of the history of black america, for a lot of us there's a temptation to think the most interesting thing about being black being an authentically black person is to portray yourself as a sufferer and point to somebody doing your wrong rather than being an individual or being black in all sorts of ways. you have those two things combined and you have a situation where a lot of us are teaching one another not to tell the truth and not to deal with modern reality. it's a shame. you'd think we'd be getting past it right now. >> when we come right back, what
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i want to get back to the black lives matter movement because elizabeth warren gave a fiery speech talking about racism in america and black lives matter. listen to this. >> listen to the brave powerful voices of today's generation of civil rights leaders, incredible voices, listen to them say if i die in police custody, know that i did not commit suicide. watch them when they march through the streets, hands up, don't shoot, not to incite a riot but to fight for their lives, to fight for their lives. this is the reality that all of us must confront, as uncomfortable and as ugly as that reality may be. it comes to us once again to affirm that black lives matter, that black citizens matter, that
black families matter. >> so many thought she spoke exactly the points black lives matter is trying to make. do you think she's off the mark? >> no, but i think she's saying something true but is leaving something out. she knows good and well another problem all of us must face is that too many black men kill too many other black men in the same community and that they live under exactly that threat. she knows that but she's in a position where he feels she's not supposed to say it because what she thinks is most important as the politician she is that she isn't racist. she's not unique in that but she knows deep down she's only telling half of the truth and she know what is she's talking about is not the main problem. if i were elizabeth warren, i would do the same thing. i get it. i can imagine what it would be like in 2015 and making public statements beep have to take the
responsibility for telling the truth which is that it's both the cops and that we also have to have a national effort where we start working on the black-on-black crime within these communities, too. that's real civil rights work today. >> you talk about performance versus action. you said the problem is not an america blind to racism or even an america that thinks race imis solely the n-word, cross-burnings and housing covenants, the problem is a progressive ideology on race that confuses performance with action. >> she's doing exactly that. she is saying i am not a racist. i agree with the concerns you are expressing. i tend to think those are the major concerns facing the black community therefore i'm not racist. that's performance. that's not action. this isn't just her. if she were genuinely interested
in these communities, she would say that really what's going on in terms of day-to-day life is more the black-on-black crime and that problem deserves at least as much attention, even though that would mean turning away from racism for that part of the problem. >> you're talking about people finessing words. you said elsewhere another finessing is to call a attention to stop the violence marches in black communities while turning a blind eye to the fact that indignation about cop murders is so vastly hotter and more sustained. >> all of those things doesn't make sense but you're supposed to pretend they do. >> it sounds better in a sentence than when you try to explain it. >> say for example, the reason boys are californiaikilling eacr
sneakers is because they're having trouble finding a job. imagine a white kid from scarsdale doing the same thing. we can't. we're not describing human beings. >> so what is the solution? you would suggest that black lives matter and other groups do what then? >> it's very simple. this business of saying, well, look, there's stop the violence marches. it's a first step but there isn't a national movement. nobody is as upset about the black-on-black crime as they are about the one michael slegr, the one darren wilson. >> do you propose they can be? >> oh, yes. you look at a movie in the 1950s, a woman might say to her husband, "you smoke too much." a movement coalesced so people stopped smoking as much. we need to think of it it as strange if a community is
committing more effort to smoking out the kind of people who killed frid freddie gray rather than the kind of people killing one another, too. the idea that you would only focus on the white cop should seem strange. the fierceness of the black lives matter movement, we need to have that focused also on figuring something out with the cops so that nationwide we can get this minority of black men from killing one another all the tile. there's no reason that couldn't happen. we're just not as interested because we think what we're supposed to be fighting is what darren wilson has in his heart. but that's not the main thing hurting black communities now. that's what we should focus on. that's what activism is supposed to be in 2015. >> don mcwhorter, thank you, sir. >> thank you, don. >> when we come back, america life you have never seen it before. lisa ling is here with her stories that you won't see anywhere else. today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need.
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polygamist warren jeffs. lisa ling joins me now -- >> in this freezing cold studio. i hope i can even speak. >> i love it like an ice box in here. the first episode you tackle flds and you speak with the daughter of warren jeffs, right, who abused her. >> warren jeffs allegedly has between 49 and 60 kids. four of them have left the flds and are making shocking allegations and two of them agreed to talk to us on camera about what their father really is like and what he was like before he became the prophet. >> i should say alleged sexual abuse. but let look at part of it. >> warren's abuse of the innocent began long before he became the prophet. he found his first victims at home under his own roof. >> when i was really young, probably between the ages of 4 and 6, it was at night, he came
in my room. i kept saying, father, do you know what you're doing? are you awake? and i was thinking there's got to be a reason because he teaches these strict principles of morals and everything. it just scared me. i tried to convince myself it didn't happen but all my life it came to my mind. i never told anybody. >> why didn't you tell anyone? >> because father knows best. to me he was so perfect they've kept telling myself, this is -- this is not a father/daughter relationship. sexuality is not. i didn't feel luke i couike he speak up. only he could have his say and i just had to go with it and carry on. >> this is the first time becky has publicly opened up about what her father did to her when she was just a little girl. it's common for child victims of sexual abuse to suppress their memories, keep quiet and
internalize their feelings. for decades becky did just that until she learned she wasn't alone. >> what was it like? >> first of all, becky and roy jeffs, they haven't been out of the flds that long. so they're still trying to adjust to life outside of the flds. i man, they are like refugees from totalitarian states and yet they decided they needed to tell this story of what their father did to them when they were kids. they are not looking for publicity, are not wanting to write books but there are still so many people who believe that their father is the hand of god, including their own family members. what becky and roy are hoping is that somehow what they're going to tell the world somehow gets back to them and even gets to their father because their
father, warren jeffs, is still the only person who can change things for these people. >> i want to see more. members live by this strict code that make it almost impossible for outsiders to go in, insiders or outsiders. >> at first short creek seems like any other town but it doesn't take long to notice the difference. those are such big walled off compounds. >> you don't feel like can you live your life free live without being watched all the time. >> i'm noticing all the windows are cold. >> seems like they would be on red code lockdown, close the blinds, lock the doors, lock the windows. don't be seen. that's a security truck coming
to check on us. >> you think they're coming to check on us? >> i think people are monitoring and they're watching, what's up? >> as soon as we saw people, they ran inside the house because they are forbidden from talking to the outside world. they are threatened with punishment. it still as closed as ever. >> i can't wait to see the whole thing. i wish we had more clips to play. you had amazing episodes. we talked before you came on the air at least one of them. >> your previous conversation with your other guest made me think about this episode that we produced called "fatherless towns." in so many households across america men are missing and particularly in african-american communities because so many of the fathers are locked up in jail. they are desperately trying to reconnect fathers with children. there's a fatherhood program in
this jail that culminates in a father/daughter dance inside the jail and it is one of the most emotional, incredible things you will ever see. the thing is to incentivize these men to feel and experience and communicate with their daughters while sober, incentivize them to do right when they get out and become productive fathers when they do get out. >> does it work? >> a couple of them have come out and they've been doing this dance for years and i think it's working. >> that's episode number three. what else? >> we also got unprecedented access to the monkel's motorcycle club, the federal government has had so much pete on motorcycle clubs and they're the ones that the federal government has been targeting hardest. >> "lisa ling" returns with
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i'm going to sit down with donald trump one-on-one right here tomorrow night. i'll see you then. good night. good evening. tonight the man who has been called my friend and foe alike, the best campaigner in modern memory weighs in on the other clinton in her campaign. bill clinton known once upon a time as "the big dog" speaking earlier today to erin burnett about his wife's presidential run and polling that calls her trustworthiness into question. and, yes, the big dog showed he could still bark. >> oh, come on. i've answered these questions for three days and i'm not here to practice politics. if i were sitting in your chair and you w