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that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room" who will continue this live coverage of the school shooting at umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. stay with cnn for all the latest, wolf. happening now, mass shooting. gunman moving from classroom to classroom as he targeted his victims. >> exchanging shots with him. he's in a classroom. >> chaos on campus. campus officials say the shooter is dead. students have been evacuated. now investigators are flooding the scene. they're trying to figure out how all this bloodshed could have happened. and the search for a motive. the shooter apparently discussed his intention with others online. but what led to this deadly outburst? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room."
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this is cnn breaking news. let's get to the breaking news. there's been a mass shooting at a community college in oregon. police say ten people are dead, 20 others wounded at umpqua community college in roseburg about 180 miles south of portland, oregon. chilling police dispatch audio describes the bloody and chaotic scene. >> the suspect is down. we've got multiple gunshot wounds. we are going to need multiple ambulances on scene. >> suspect is down, we have multiple injured. >> the sheriff says the shooter was, quote, neutralized, and is now dead. and a source close to the investigation says authorities are examining social media postings apparently made by the gunman discussing his intentions. our correspondents, analysts and guests have full coverage of this fast moving story. let's begin with our justice correspondent pamela brown. she's working her sources for
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us. pamela, what are you finding out? >> well, we have learned, wolf, that the gunman is a 20-year-old male who is now deceased after exchanging gunfire with law enforcement. the big question now, the motive. was he a student at this school? we don't have the answer to that. but what we've learned from law enforcement officials who've spoken to me and my colleague deborah feyerick is that investigators are right now looking at social media posts from the person they believe to be the gunman alluding to what he was going to do open fire today at umpqua community college. we learned that around 10:38 a.m. there in oregon he walked into one of the buildings on campus, a very large campus. and started opening fire in one of the classrooms and moved to another classroom after that. the 911 calls came in to law enforcement. they flooded the scene there and that is when there was an exchange of gunfire between officials and the gunman who is now dead as we said. the fbi is there as well as atf and canine units. they have been going room to room making sure that there are
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no bombs or booby-traps. we're being told the threat is being investigated but the mitigation into how this happened and why this happened, wolf, is very active at this hour. >> no indication what was said yet at least we don't know on the social media postings? >> well, he apparently warned about opening fire. that he was unhappy and that this was what he was going to do. he basically said according to officials if i were you i wouldn't go to school today if you're in this area. apparently alluding to what he was going to do. unclear how many people saw this if this was really a warning that should have been heeded and that the right folks, law enforcement, the community, the school, we don't know if they saw that. it was just on a blog on a social immediate kra website online. we also, wolf, heard frtd officials who are investigating this case. they spoke at a news conference moments ago. here's what we learned at that. >> and upon arriving there they
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located the shooter in one of the buildings. officers engaged that suspect. there was an exchange of gunfire. the shooter threat was neutralized. >> so even though the shooter threat was neutralized, wolf, you can bet that they will be at that suspect's home if they're not already looking through all of his electronics trying to piece together what happened here. and whether any signs were missed along the way. which we see in so many of these horrific shootings, wolf. >> another horrific shooting here in the united states. a mass shooting indeed. pamela, standby. evan perez, our justice reporter is getting more information on the shooter. what are you learning? >> we're hearing from law enforcement officials that they've recovered four guns there at the scene. that they're looking at, they're examining, they believe these belong to the shooter. so now that's what the process begins for the atf, for local law enforcement to try to figure out where he obtained these
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guns, which one was used in the shooting. we know law enforcement when they arrived there they exchanged gunfire with this shooter. so now the work begins to try to trace back when he might have obtained this firearms perhaps if he's been planning this for some time. again, this is all part of putting together a picture of what went into this shooting. we know a lot of times these shooters spend a lot of time planning. they study past shootings. they look at all frankly at our coverage of past shootings and see what else they can do. again, a cry for help perhaps or to get attention when they carry out these mass shootings. again, this is all something that is under investigation, four guns recovered at the scene are being examined believed to belong to the shooter, wolf. >> all right. we're going to get more information on this shooter. stand by. paul morgan is an astronomy profession sor at the college, umpqua community college, he's joining us on the phone right now. paul, thanks very much, i understand you heard the
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gunshots? >> that's right. i was up at the ucc track, which is very far northwest part of campus. and i heard four gunshots. there were very muffled. >> what was it like? what was the reaction once you heard that? >> well, you know, we're in a rural area, hunting season starts in about a week or so. sometimes people are actually, you know, sighting their rifles so i didn't really make much of it. as i said they were only four shots. the only thing was odd is that the shots were rapid. normally when you're doing something with a rifle you have a shot and then you wait and you have a shot. these were bam, bam, bam, bam. but i wasn't anywhere -- you know, i'm about half a mile from the actual shooting scene. so i really wasn't involved in that at all. but i certainly heard the shots. >> so how long did it take for you to learn exactly what was going on and learn this awful news? >> i just took a few minutes after my crew decided they were finished for the day. they were headed home.
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we're building an observatory for the college. and so i came down to campus. i was going to meet with one of the facilities people and tell them about progress. and suddenly i saw row upon row of police cars. i saw ambulances. and then i saw fbi people with guns walking around the campus. and that was when i knew something was really bad. >> paul, did you know this 20-year-old shooter? >> i don't know who he is. i don't know if he's a student or not. i've been teaching at the college for about 20 years. so there's been a lot of students that i know. >> describe a little bit the atmosphere at umpqua community cle college, the nature of the classrooms. we understand the shooter went into one of those classrooms and started shooting people. >> the classrooms we have a number of buildings, the campus is a beautiful campus.
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classrooms are on one side of the building, each classroom can hold anywhere from 20 to 40 students. generally just one door in, one door out. >> what are the rules on campus as far as carrying a weapon or firearms on campus. >> we don't allow anyone carry arms on campus. our security guard is not armed. >> so presumably if someone walks around with a gun people would notice and that would be a sign of distress. >> absolutely. we wouldn't see people with firearms walking around campus. that would be pretty scary. >> by any chance do you know any of those who were killed or wounded? >> i haven't been able to reach any of my colleagues. the only -- there's only been one campus e-mail at 10:42 saying that the campus was in lockdown, active shooter, stay put, stay put. that's all i've got.
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>> where are you now, paul? >> i'm at home. >> you're at home watching what's going on? >> yeah, i'm watching your news program in fact. >> paul morgan is an astronomy professor at the college. in the meantime bring yan todd taking a closer look. >> the information we're getting on how this situation played out on the ground. now, according to police dispatch transmissions and sources familiar with the investigation at least some of the gunfire took place at snyder hall. and this is snyder hall right here. also some of the gunfire took place at the science building on the campus of umpqua community college. that there is the science building. now, according to the police dispatcher an officer reported exchanging gunshots with the shooter. and the officer said he was in a classroom in the southeast corner of snyder hall. from what we have gathered studying aerial views and other maps of the campus this is snyder hall from the ground view. and this would be the southeast corner of snyder hall right here where that officer reported he was exchanging gunfire with the
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shooter right at about that point in the building. snyder is a building used for classes, workshops and meetings. law enforcement officials tell us the shooter started in one classroom and started moving to others including the science building. and there were multiple patients in multiple classrooms. now, according to the douglas county fire marshal it took law enforcement officers a while to secure each classroom. and here's a layout of the school as we showed you initially here from the air. it sits on about 100 acres backed right up to the umpqua river, which is here, and runs along interstate 5 which is just about up here. there are at least 16 buildings on the campus at umpqua, but if you count them from the aerial view you can see at least a couple other auxiliary buildings up around here. according to the college board the school has just about 2,000 undergraduate students. here are some photos from the campus of just some of the other buildings. umpqua is not a traditional school. it's a two-year college.
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some of the students, many of the students are part time we're told. the average age of the students according to the college board is 28 years old. so you've got a mature student body on the campus at umpqua. the school is in a very rural area. at least 150 miles due south of portland, oregon. it first started teaching classes in 1961, wolf, right outside roseburg a town of about 22,000 people. i want to show you if you look at the aerial view of the community college and the surrounding community, the potential for even greater danger was there earlier today. again, you've got the campus here. but then look just across the street. a residential area several homes right there. again, the potential for danger at one point today could have been even greater. >> normally a very quiet, peaceful, beautiful area unfortunately spoiled today by a mass shooting killing. brian, stand by. deborah feyerick is also working her sources for us. we know federal authorities, law enforcement authorities are
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involved, state, local, what are you finding out, deb? >> well, we're learning more about the conversation that the alleged shooter or the alleged gunman was having online last night with a group of people. it's a disturbing conversation. some people are giving him guidance how to do it. how the type of weapon to use. there are some that just seem to be encouraging him. others saying don't do it. one puts up an address for an fbi tips hot line. but the nature of the conversation that this alleged shooter is having is both at times he's characterized as both a pathetic loser but almost a twisted hero. there is a reference, wolf, to the uc santa barbara shooter, another very disturbed individual who wrote a very long manifesto about how no one was treating him right.
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looking closely at this threat, at this conversation they do believe they've identified him. he was shot and killed on that campus during this active shooting event. he was shot. he was killed. they know who he is. and so we're looking now to formally and officially identify him through law enforcement, wolf. >> i presume they identified those with whom he was communicating on this social media site, right? >> well, they certainly are reaching out to those individuals. they're trying to assess how well these people knew him, how long he had been talking about doing this, why he did this, what his motive was. you know, we know the uc santa barbara shooter did it because he felt he was being rejected by women on campus. so he decided to get back at them and get back at these sort of beta males who would stand in his way. we don't know whether that's the same motive as this individual right now, but he was clearly very disturbed. and he was clearly looking to do something that would get him
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attention. and as i said, some people on that website they were encouraging him to do it. ohs were saying don't. all of that under investigation. >> those encouraging him to do that have some explaining to do and presumably will be doing that to law enforcement. standby, deb. i know you're working your sources. i want to bring in former fbi director tom fuentes, arthur roderick, guys, thanks very much for joining us. pamela brown is still with us, our justice correspondent as well. tom fuentes, you just heard that latest indication that online this shooter was apparently discussing what he planned on doing the next day. you would think somebody who saw those kinds of social media postings would go to law enforcement and report what's going on. >> you would think so, wolf. but we're going to want to hear from these people whether they took it seriously or not. maybe they thought he was just ranting and raving and, yeah, yeah, go ahead. like sometimes people say i want to jump off the building and they say, yeah, go ahead. so we don't know how seriously
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it seemed to them he was actually going to go do it. >> what do you think, arthur? >> i think unfortunately in this day and age, you know, somebody's got to report these types of communications. it seems like we're talking about this in hindsight. and if this individual was chatting the way he was chatting on this website, then obviously somebody's got to say something. somebody put up an fbi tip line if that's confirmed then somebody should have come forward to law enforcement and said, hey, this individual is talking, you know, that he's going to shoot somebody up here. >> they got a problem. stand by, everybody stand by, we're getting new information. we'll take a quick break. much more on the developing shocking story near portland, oregon. we'll be right back. we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen.man. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all.
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there's been yet another mass shooting, a mass killing at a college campus here in the united states. ten people killed, more than 20 others injured at oregon's umpqua community college. that's very close to roseburg in oregon. pamela brown, our justice correspondent, is getting new information. the shooter is dead, a 20-year-old individual who apparently the night before, hours before posting certain indications that he was plann ng on going somewhere at least and killing people. >> that's right, wolf. i've been looking at the message board he was apparently posting on. i want to make it clear law enforcement is still trying to validate these sites and make
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sure it was actually the man they believe to be the gunman. but these are very disturbing communications about what he intended to do. he gave an ominous warning. if i were you, if you're in this area, i wouldn't go to school. also appears just from looking at these communications and if indeed it is him, it appears he identified himself as a beta male, which is essentially opposite of alpha male. these are the individuals like elliot rogers in santa barbara who opened fire and had that disturbing youtube video, these are individuals who feel the world is against them, they can't get women and they have a hard time and not as social perhaps. there are these websites that law enforcement are looking at about being, you know, beta males, that this gunman they believe interacted on these sites and had some involvement with them. >> tom fuentes, so you have -- >> if i could add to that. one of the things most disturbing to law enforcement in the last few years is that years ago before the internet, before these websites and these type of people couldn't find each other to communicate. they were so anti-social.
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they'd be hold up in their home, didn't have friends, wouldn't communicate. now with the internet they can get in touch with each other and encourage things and be like a social extended club where their very nature is to be against being in a club like that. so the fact they identify as beta males, identify as being part of that group where in the past they wouldn't have been a part of any group. they'd just been home alone. >> and to his point we did see some of that in this message board some encouraging him, others saying you shouldn't do this. so it's really disturbing. there's this whole dark world on the web where people who may not be in a club or fit in find that community online. >> let me get some reaction from paul morgan, he's an astronomy professor at umpqua community college. he's still on the phone with us. you actually heard gunshots before you got out of the scene over there, professor. what do you make of the discussion that was going on apparently on these websites? >> oh, i'm just shocked. absolutely shocked. this whole thing is just, you
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know, i just don't know what to say. i'm just completely stunned. >> you've been a professor there for what 20 years? has there been any indication that there are these sort of sorted underground individual who is are angry, frustrated and they go online and go to these chats and talk about doing something dastardly like this? >> no, i'm not aware of anything like that. we've had a very tranquil campus. it's been a very good atmosphere. i think the faculty and the students interact well. that's why i'm just absolutely stunned. i could not believe this would happen at umpqua. >> tell us about the average student. you've been there as you say 20 years. what are the kids like who study there? some are not necessarily that young either, right? >> we have a variety of students from those right out of high school to those that are sort of trying to find a second career. i've taught students that are 20. i've taught students that are
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60. we just have a wide variety of people that's part of the fun of being at a community college. we have a great array of students. >> has there been any history of unrest, violence, extremism, anger, anything like that on the campus? >> no, nothing like that. that's why this is so shocking. i mean, it just took us all by surprise. >> it is shocking indeed. paul morgan, stand by. art roderick is with us still as well, former director of the u.s. marshals office. there's no way law enforcement can monitor tens of thousands if not more of these websites. >> there's absolutely no way. you can go all the way back to columbine, look at the ucc santa barbara shooter, newtown, they all fit into the same category, young, white, disenfranchised males. so tom's point was right on that they're able to find each other on the internet now. and they kind of rile each other
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up. and dare each other to do these types of incidences. so it is very difficult. somebody that's in these chat rooms has actually got to report this information. >> you would think virginia tech, you were there at virginia tech, tom fuentes. there's a history unfortunately here in the united states of, you know, mass shootings on college campuses and schools. >> well, not just college. i mean every kind of campus. we have sandy hook elementary school, the disenfranchised person like art's talking about that's a loser, that has mental problems, and then gets guns is able to arm themselves and then go into whether it's a grade school, high school, college, theater. there's no way we can lock down the entire society to prevent it when we have these type of people on the loose and now encouraging each other which is something we didn't have before the internet and before these dark sites. >> and we just heard that maybe four guns were found at the scene before this individual was shot and killed by law enforcement. all right. we'll take another quick break. we're following what's happening
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it was only about 20 minutes into class and i heard like a loud bang. and i was like that's kind of weird and i look over there's no textbook. thought maybe there'd be a textbook on the floor or a table or desk ramming into a wall. but it was kind of loud so it was like what is going on. so then i looked out the window and there was a couple girls running like sprinting away from the building.
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and then i hear screaming after that first gunshot. and then i looked out and i saw the people running and i said to the teacher we need to get out of here right now. and then we heard the second and third gunshots. and she had opened the door. before i knew it i was already at the student center because i booked it over there. >> we're continuing to follow the breaking news out of roseburg in oregon at umpqua community college. ten people dead. at least 20 people injured. a mass shooting under way earlier in the day. the shooter shot and killed by police. joining us on the phone right now is chelsea gorro, she's a local reporter with the registered guard newspaper. you're at the fire station at the fire department where they're about to hold a news conference updating us on what's going on. what's the latest you're hearing? >> well, i am stationed here at the fire department. it's right next door to oregon state police's regional office. so they're going to hold a press conference here at 3:00. and they're expected to give us an update. the first press conference they held there was not much of an
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update to offer. but we're hoping for more information. >> 3:00 pacific time. 6:00 p.m. eastern. do you know who's going to be briefing you? >> there's a member of the sheriff -- the douglas county sheriff's office is going to be briefing us. it will not be the sheriff this time, but i'm not sure who it's going to be. >> so far they haven't officially released numbers as to how many are dead and how many are injured, right? >> that's right. the attorney general did say that there were 13 dead, but the sheriff refused to confirm that. so we don't know. >> and they haven't released the name, the identity of the shooter other than the fact that the shooter was shot and killed by law enforcement. >> that's right. he fired at police and police fired back. they said it was an exchange of gunfire. >> we do know a 20-year-old individual who was the shooter. we're going to stay in touch with you, chelsea gorro of the registered guard newspaper. thank you. >> thank you. >> joining us on the phone also right now is oregon state representative cedric hayden. he represents the roseburg area.
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cedric, thanks so much for joining us. what can you tell us about what happened in terms of how many people were confirmed dead and how many people are injured? >> well, thank you, wolf. this is cedric hayden. and i don't have specific information more than what you already have. i was working in district so i am, you know, in the house district 7 here. we recently had legislative day so we've been -- last couple of days. i am waiting, i have been in contact with the command center down there and have been waiting to go ahead. i'm about 45 minutes away where my office currently is in the district. and so i'm waiting for the appropriate time to be there. and at that time i expect to get a little bit more information. but the news reports we're hearing are basically the same as you somewhere between seven, up to 13. and one of the reports was 17. but i don't have any numbers that can confirm anything further than that. >> have you confirmed what we
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have been reporting? the shooter a 20-year-old presumably a student at this community college. >> i can't confirm that it was a student, but yes, it does appear to be confirmed that it's a 20-year-old male that has deceased as his actions with the engaging the police department down there. and we're told that the fbi is involved and that the local county sheriffs are involved, the local police. and of course the state police are involved down there. a couple hours ago they said it went to a code four which means there's no more threat. so they didn't need anymore help. said they had all the help there. so my office has been in a holding pattern here to where we can get down there and get in the command center itself and get a little bit more information. >> it's also pretty shocking and we've been reporting this, cedric, that the shooter apparently posted on social media the night before the atact
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indications of his intentions to go out there start killing people, warning individuals to stay away from certain places. have you heard about this. >> i have heard about that. that was actually asked in the local press conference here with the state police. and they would not confirm whether that was true or not. i have not seen any of those posts myself. i have heard that rumor though. >> tell us a little bit about umpqua community college. >> so umpqua community college is a tight knit community. if you -- physically it's kind of a one road in, one road out. so it's kind of a separate up on the hill. they've got 16 buildings there. it's a little over 3,000 full time students with 16,000 part-time students. and the thing that's a little bit unique about umpqua community college is different than other community colleges our industry here is usually natural resources, timber industries and a lot of that has gone away over the years.
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and so we have an age of about 38 years of age as an average age at umpqua community college where it's not always that case at community colleges you might expect a little bit younger population. but as we retool and rethink and re-educate, it's usually a little older population. so a lot of these people are, you know, people with families and children and very much part of the community. >> have you heard anything about names of individuals who may have been shot and killed? >> we have no information on that at all. we've had a lot of requests. i don't have any information on who that might be. >> according to the organization, cedric, every town for gun safety this is actually, and it's pretty shocking number, the 142nd school shooting here in the united states since the newtown, connecticut massacre. there have been 40 school shootings since the start of the year, this according to the "new york times." did you ever think your district would be counted among these
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kinds of mass shooting incidents? >> no, absolutely not. but as we think back 17 years to the first here in springfield, oregon, which is not very far away. it's been just a little less than 20 years, the shock comes back. and there's just -- there's just got to be a solution that we can work in the legislature on that addresses the types of issues as we go through this process and learn from the process that we've got to, you know, put a stop to this. >> how easy is it for someone to go out and get a gun in your area? >> well, the gun laws are changing in oregon. as of august 1st i think it was -- or august 9th, i believe the legislature put background checks in place here. but i think it's as far as states go i suppose we're in the middle as far as what access we
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don't have any information of what this shooter how they access or what the weapon was, we don't know at this point. >> cedric hayden is the oregon state representative who represents this area, the roseburg area where umpqua community college is located. cedric, thank you very much. we'll stay in close touch with you. >> thank you, sir. we'll take another quick break. we're following breaking news out of oregon. much more coming up right after this. bill's got a very tough 13lie here...... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club... well he's definitely going to lose a stroke
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following breaking news. yet another mass shooting on a college campus here in the united states. this one at umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. joining us on the phone right now is kristen brady, she's a student at umpqua community college. she was actually on the campus when the shooting started. and you saw, you heard, kristen, what was going on? first of all, kristen, how are you doing right now? >> i'm pretty razz led up. still kind of shaky. >> which is totally understandable. tell us where you were and what you saw and heard. >> well, what was going on was that a friend of mine and i were leaving our science lab. and we were right by my car when we started hearing this popping sound. and it was a little worrisome at first, but then we thought maybe
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it was just a car backfiring until one of the teachers was telling us it was an active school shooting. and we should get in our cars. and my friend she got immediately into her car and drove off. i got main my car and i kind of panicked and got down on the -- in my car i wasn't really sure what to do. >> so you just got down on the floor of your car and just waited there? is that what you're saying? >> well, at first. and i was just sitting there and i wondered what in the world am i supposed to do now. and i'm looking at the science building and it came to me, none of my fellow students know what's going on. and i'm seeing this young woman leaving the science building with ear buds in her ears and looking down at her phone texting out in the open. and i just -- i made a choice to get out of my car and i yelled
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at her, the poor thing. i yelled at her there's a shooting, get in the building. and at that point i knew there was no chance of me getting back into my car. this person was still actively shooting. so i ran with her to get into the science building. and as we're running i see dr. richards, the head of the science department, walking out of the teachers offices. and you can tell she just wasn't quite sure what was going on yet. so the poor dr. richards i'm yelling at her there's a shooter, there's a shooter. and dr. champion, my anatomy and physiology teacher, opens our lab door and is ordering us to get in. and we all go into the center of the science building. and i actually found out from
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dr. breslin, our chemistry teacher, that actually that area of the science building is probably the safest building to be in at that time. so i mean all the teachers helped us feel a little more relaxed. and, i mean, there was a lot of students worried about their siblings worried about friends, i was worried about my friends. >> did you have any friends that were shot or god forbid killed? >> a friend of mine, jorge, a friend of his was injured in the shooting. none of my close friends were actually hurt from this shooting, thank goodness. >> do you know who this shooter was? >> no. no idea. >> and word is not spreading on the campus about the identity of this shooter. people are waiting for the official announcement from law enforcement, is that right?
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>> yes. we're still waiting. i'm sure they would probably either contact us through e-mail or, you know, by phone. either way -- or they may never tell us who the shooter was just for confidentiality sake i would think. >> no, we'll find out fairly soon i'm sure. kristen, are you okay? are you home now? >> yes, i am home with my fam y family. >> all right. good. i want you to stay with us. don't go too far away. we'll stay in close touch with you. and good luck to you. good luck to everybody over there at umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. when you're not confident your company's data is secure,
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the white house announced president obama will make a statement to the nation on the shootings in oregon at 6:20 p.m. eastern, a little less than half an hour or so from now. the president will go into the the white house briefing room to address the american people on this latest mass shooting at a college campus in the united states. we're also standing by right at the top of the hour a few minutes from now for a news conference from law enforcement, the sheriff in roseburg oregon where the shooting occured to update us on what is going on. horrendous situation. ten people shot and killed. at least people 20 injured. we'll get new numbers, those presumably will be changing at the top of the hour when we go to the news conference. we're standing by to here from president obama. in the meantime, let's bring back our law enforcement
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analyst, tom. tom, the president of the united states goes and makes a statement like the this to under score how presumably angry he is over yet another mass killing. >> given the frequency of these, maybe more, it's one thing after the other, which one is more horrendous? if we don't change anything after 20 some kids are slaughter in sandy hook and look at other events and say business as usual on school campuses whether grade school, middle school, high school, college or a movie theater, it's a continuing thing that we see over and over and over. >> i want to go to rick francona in a moment but i assume you agree. >> yes. this is unfortunate to a small community and first responders are from that community this is
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going to have a devastating impact. >> cnn military analyst rick is joining us. talk about the situation. >> how could it happen here? this is one of the places where you really say how could it happen here? it's timber in the the street. it's 5,000 people rural but they are on the i-5 corridor so they can get people in and out when they need to for resources. so it's a bit of a shock. i'm not far from the campus now. i'm going to go over and get a feel for what is going on over there but everybody i've talked to, it's the exact same thing, we moved here because we didn't want this to happen. >> it's a very peaceful,
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happening now, breaking news, campus massacre, police are securing the scene of a deadly shooting at a community college in oregon. the situation is fluid and casualty count is rising as people are found in multiple
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classrooms. president obama will speak out. gunman killed. police say there was a shootout with the killer on campus that left him dead. the weapons he apparently left behind. online clues, sources say the gunman posted information about his plans last night. we have chilling details about that as investigators are pouring over the social media trail and searching for a motive. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we're following breaking news, a deadly shooting rampage in rural oregon. state police initially reported ten killed and more than 20 injured. right now authorities aren't giving specific figures as they
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search and secure the scene and terrified survivors were evacuated. >> 20 minutes into class i heard a loud bang like that's weird and looked over and no textbook, thought maybe a textbook on the floor or table or desk ramming into a wall but it was kind of loud so it was like what is going on? so then i look out the window and there were a couple girls running, sprinting away and i hear screaming after the first gunshot and then i looked out and saw the people running and said to the teacher, we need to get out of here right now and heard the and he could third gunshots and she opened the door and before i knew it, i was at the student center because i ran, booked it over there. >> the 20-year-old gunman is dead after trading fire with police. listen to the call reporting the shooter was down. >> the suspect is down. we've got multiple gunshot wounds, need multiple ambulances
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on scene. >> we're sending mull ttiple ambulances. >> they are fanning out at umpaqua community college a. law enforcement official says four weapons were found at the scene and we're told investigators are looking into an online conversation the gunman may have had last night talking about planning to carry out a shooting. our correspondents are there as we cover the story. let's go to pamela brown, she has the very latest. >> we're hearing three pistols and a long rifle were found at the scene today. it's unclear if all those weapons belonged to the gunman. we know there was an exchange of gunfire between the the gunman and law enforcement. officials say he was a 20-year-old male, he walked on to campus this morning and went into classrooms opening fire killing multiple people.
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>> active shooter, 1140. >> just before 10:40, an active the shooter at umpqua college. >> as frightened students tried to flee, police say the 20-year-old shooter armed with as many as four guns opened fire moving between classrooms. >> dispatch as many ambulances as possible. >> as shots continue to ring out, students describe confusion and chaos. >> all we heard is we need to get in the back room now, so we all ran in there and there were so many people in there that were freaking out. >> as police race to the scene, this small college of about 3,000 students was put on lockdown. >> there was blood on the ground where they had a mark. >> when officers arrived, they say they found the gunman still alive and shooting. >> exchanged shots with him. he's in a classroom.
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going to be southeast side. >> police say after the fire fight, the gunman was killed. once he was dead, they say they began moving room to room clearing the scene. >> our number one priority right now is to make sure that the scene is secure and the victims are treated and that we continue to make sure that there are no additional threats. >> it's unclear at this point if the gunman is a student at the college, the community college there. we know at this hour investigators are looking at social media poses from last night to see if, in fact, it's coming from the gunman and these posts elude to wanting to open fire on a campus. this is part of the investigation, wolf, one of the many pieces of evidence authorities are looking at including those weapons found at the the scene, atf are tracing the guns to see where he got them. >> the federal agency looking into this with the fbi among others.
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thanks, pamela brown. we have a student from umpqua community college. cassandra welding is joining us. thank you, i understand you're an eyewitness and saw what was going on and heard what was going on. >> yeah. >> first of all, tell us how you're doing. >> i'm pretty shaken up about the situation that's gone on but i'm doing okay so far, you know, with days that go on, i think i'll continue to get better, but it's pretty horrific what happened today at umpqua community college. >> where were you? did you see? >> i was actually in the classroom next door to where the scene, where the shooter supposedly shot, you know, some students and i was, you know, just in class and i heard a popping noise almost like a balloon popping when you have too much air so i knew something wasn't right and so i get down, we all -- all the students in the classroom got down underneath tables and a lady went to go see, one of my fellow
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classmates went to go see what was going on and opened the door and fortunaunfortunately, the g shot her and as of now, i don't know her situation. then we locked the doors, turned off the lights and, you know, just we were all pretty much in panic mode right there and called 911 and our parents and i love yous and didn't know what would happen, if those were our last words or not so yeah, but. >> what you're saying, cassandra, you saw this person, a teacher get shot by this killer? >> no, i did not see the shooter at all. right when my classmate got shot, we -- one of the students said close the door, lock the door, so we locked the door and continued to hear gunshots right next door to where all of my, right next door to our classroom. >> so you guys were on the ground, basically, on the floor
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trying to protect yourselves. >> we were on the floor and put backpacks, chairs, whatever we could shield ourselves with in case he came in. so yeah, it was definitely horrific what happened and it was unfortunate. i've gone to ucc, this is my third year there and the staff there and the community that you go to school with, everyone is such a loving and caring environment and i just feel for everyone, all victims and their families today. it's just unfortunate event what happened today. >> how many shots, cassandra, did you hear? >> i mean, i probably heard about a good 35 to 40 shots. yeah. >> you knew these were gunshots? you understood that immediately, right? >> no, at first i honestly thought it sounded -- i thought it was a rocket or something -- i thought it was a scene from a movie, kind of sounded like --
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it didn't hit me at first what it was and then this lady, she said i think it's a rocket show went to go see if everything was okay and that guy said it's a gunshot and they said no, a gunshot would echo but these were huge, loud ka pows and get down, get down, it is a shooting and i knew after that and when i called 911 they said are you calling from ucc the shooting? i said yeah. so i knew when i called what it was. >> pretty terrifying. umpqua community college. ucc. you had a cell phone to call your family and loved ones, as well? >> yeah, the first person i called was my mom and thought this is the last time i was going to talk to her and was terrified and i was just shaking and i was so terrified and then i called 911 because the line was busy and everyone was
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calling but yeah, then the police came and then from there they came in and said get down, get down to the shooter and then i heard a couple more shots and then they came into our classroom and said the shooter was dead and then we were safe to leave our classroom and head to where we had to go. >> did they escort you out of the building? >> yes, they escorted us out of the building and in front of the library and we had to get searched and our backpacks were searched, too, as well, and then we loaded on to buses to head to the fairgrounds to be with our loved ones. >> i hope you're home now with your family, right? >> oh, i'm definitely home with my family and i just wanted to let, there is also a vigil tonight for the community of
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ro roseburg at 8:00 p.m. >> glad you're okay cassandra welding, this is a horrific day and give our best, our love to everyone in your community. at umpqua community college. thank you for sharing your story with our viewers. we're standing by to hear from president obama. he's going to be talking about the oregon community college mass shooting momentarily. we'll go to the white house once the president starts speaking. in the meantime i want to go to michelle standing by. i understand, michelle, the president has been briefed by local and state, his aids on what has happen in oregon? >> right, when it happened and we were told that he asked his staff to continue to brief him throughout the day. now that there are several hours, he decided to personally make a statement on this to the
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american people, something he's done more than a dozen times now since he's been president. the last time we heard was after the charleston church shooting back in june and at that time he said this is something he's had to do too many times. since then, in interviews and statements he's made he says this has no place, gun violence has no place in a civilized society, this doesn't happen in a other advanced countries. the last tweet he put out on this was at the end of june and said here are the stats, per population, we kill each other with guns at a rate 297 times more than japan, 49 times more than france, 33 times more than israel. we expect him to touch on that after he delivers condolences to the families involved and really still getting information on this. truly a tragedy but something else he might get at is what we heard from the press secretary in the briefing, when news was just breaking. talking about how making some common sense steps on gun control as they put it is still
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a top priority for administration. we know they have been working on potentially another executive action on gun control possibly this time involving mental health or people who've been convicted of misdemeanors and domestic violence has been talked about behind the scenes but so far haven't taken that action. that's something administration is asked about and every time there is another high-profile shooting in this country. we believe that is pending. that's something administration did after the sandy hook shooting coming out with dozens of moves in the executive action that entailed a lot of information sharing, some things to do with background checks but some haven't been very effective because lack of funding and other issues, wolf. >> we'll stand by and we're waiting to hear from the president the in a few moments from now he'll go into the briefing room and speak out on this mass shooting in oregon. stand by michelle for that. debra is working her sources and
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joining us now. what else are you learning? >> we're learning this guy had a pretty prolific online life. he was on a chat board the the night before this rampage and talking to people, an anonymous conver saegs sation going on. some of them -- >> deb, i want to interrupt for a moment. i'll get back to you but i understand there is a news conference, law enforcement in rose burg at that community college is speaking out. listen to this. this is a college official. >> we have taxi cab drivers volunteering to take students home from the fairgrounds. we have law enforcement, grief counselors there for student and staff. at the fairgrounds they opened the doors to us. the city manager helped us. the county commissioners helped us, the governor's office helped us. all the other colleges in oregon
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offered help. we appreciate all the help. we're trying to reunite students with families. that is high priority now. we have families waiting for the last bus of students to arrive and have grief counselors for those who have no children coming off the the bus. that's the highest priority and why i haven't been in front of the press before now but as this rolls through, tomorrow the college will be closed. this weekend the college will be closed for all student activities that were planned. we will be open again for classes on monday. right now it is a crime scene. so people in the nieighbor hood stay away. it's sad to watch the the families wait for the last bus.
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you understand why we have priorities that put those needs in front of your needs now but thank you for comeing. we'll take a quick break and continue to monitor. we're waiting to hear from the president of the united states momentarily. he'll be making a statement on this mass shooting. we'll be right back.
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we'll go to the microphones there. the west wing of the white house, the the briefing room, the president will deliver a statement to the american, the world on another deadly shooting rampage in this country, this ti time at a small community college in rural oregon. those numbers clearly could change and could go higher as we get more and more information. only momentarily away. debra, i may interrupt you in a moment but you told us about new information you were learning
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about the shooter. >> it appears he had a really strong online life. it's where he spent most of his time it appears, at least the time we're looking at. he was on an anonymous chat board, basically people go on and speak anonymously and talked about plans to commit this rampage and the reaction of those online is both one is sort of they describe him as a pa threaten the ti -- pathetic hero and twisted hero, some tell him how to do it, get a gun, others say don't do it. >> here is the president, 15th statement on shootings. >> another mass shooting in america. this time in a community college in oregon. that means there are more american families, moms, dads, children whose lives have been
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changed forever. that means there's another community stunned with grief and communities across the country forced to relief their own anguish and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children. i've been to roseburg, oregon. there are really good people there. i want to thank all the first responders whose bravery likely saved some lives today. federal law enforcement has been on the scene in a supporting role and has offered to help rose burg as long as they need. in the coming days, we'll learn about the victims. young men and women studying and learning and working hard and their eyes set on the future, their dreams on what they could make of their lives. and america will wrap everyone
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grieving with our prayers and our love. but as i said just a few months ago and i said a few months before that and i said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. it's not enough. it does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. and it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being ining inflicted someplace else in america. next week or a couple months from now. we don't yet know why this individual did what he did. and it's fair to say that
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anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds. regardless of what they think their motivations may be. but we are not the only country on earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people. we are the only advanced country on earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months. earlier this year i answered a question in an interview by saying the united states of the america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws even in the face of repeated mass killings. and later that day, there was a
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mass shooting at a movie theater in lafayette, louisiana. that day. somehow this has become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation in the aftermath of it, we become numb to this. we talked about this after columbine, blacksburg, tucson, new town, aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, is the response of those
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who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now, i can imagine the press release is being cranked out. we need more guns they will argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country, they know that's not true. we know because of the polling that says that majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws including the majority of responsible law-abiding gun owners. there is a gun for roughly every man, woman and child in america. how can you with a straight face make the argument that more guns will make us safer?
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we know states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths so the notion that gun laws don't work or make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get guns, it's not born out by the evidence. we know other countries in response to one mass shooting have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. friends of ours, allies of ours, great britain, australia, countries like ours, so we know there are ways to prevent it. and of course, what's also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say obama politicized this issue.
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this is something we should ppo littize. it is relevant. i would ask news organization because i won't put these facts forward, have news organizations tally up the number of americans who've been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of americans who have been killed by gun violence. and post those side by side on your news reports. this won't be information coming from me, it will be coming from you. we spend over a trillion dollars and pass countless laws and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil and rightfully so. and yet, we have a congress that
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explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths. how can that be? this is a political choice we make. to allow this to happen every few months in america, we collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction. when americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer. when americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we work to make communities safer. when roads are unsafe, we fix
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them. to reduce auto fatalities, we have seat belt laws because we know it saves lives. so the notion that gun violence is somehow different, that our freedom and our constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon, when there are law-abiding gun owners across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations. doesn't make sense. so tonight as those of us who
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were lucky enough to hug our kids a little closer, are thinking about the families that aren't so fortunate, i'd ask the american people to think about how they can get our government to change these laws. and to save lives. and to let young people grow up. and that will require a change of politics and require the american people individually whether a democrat or republican or independent, when you decide to vote for somebody are making a determination as to whether this cause of continuing death for innocent people should be a
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relevant factor in your decision. if you think this is a problem, then you should expect your elected officials to reflect your views. and i would particularly ask america's gun owners who are using those guns properly, safely to hunt, for sport, for protecting their families, to think about whether your views are properly being represented by the organization that suggests it's speaking for you. and each time this happens, i'm going to bring this up. each time this happens, i am going to say that we can
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actually do something about it but we're going to have to change our laws. and this is not something i can do myself. i have to have a congress and state legislatures and governors who are willing to work with me on this. i hope and pray that i don't have to come out again during my tenure as the president to offer my condolences to families in these circumstances. but based on my experience as president, i can't guarantee that. that's terrible to say. and it can change. may god bless the memories of those who were killed today. may he bring comfort to their
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families and courage to the injured as they fight their way back. and may he give us the strength to come together and find the courage to change. thank you. the president of the united states visibly, visibly shaken, very angry about this latest mass shooting on a college campus here in the united states, this one in oregon, umpqua community college. ten people shot and killed. at least 20 injured. jake tapper, gloria borger were listening and watching the president of the united states. not every day, jake, you see the president shaken and very much willing, anxious to go after the nra but he spoke of that organization and clearly is ready to go to battle against them. >> that's right but he also
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challenged others, the news media and said we should put up numbers when it came to americans killed by terrorists versus mass shootings, the suggestion being we in the moeda hype the terrorist threat than numerically a greater threat, being shot in a mass shooting and challenged the public telling them to make sure they vote according to their feelings on this issue and also they make their feelings known and reflects something the white house press secretary said there needs to be a change in the way the public, the american people, i'll quote will need to see a fundamental change they they communicate this priority to congress. he is challenging others, as well, not just the nra. i would say one of the things
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this i think a lot of people who want to get behind the president on this are frustrated by is what is he calling for? universal background checks, oregon just started a universal background check for gun purchases last month. calling for something else? is the agenda beyond standing up against the nra? >> talking about what he calls commonsense gun legislation and specifics we'll wait to see what he has in mind now and see if he can get that passed through the house and senate. he says it's not enough to simply say our thoughts and prayers are with those families suffering. kblory, y gloria, you don't often see the president come into the press room as shaken.
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>> you can see his anger and frustration. during his first the term in office we called him no drama obama. you're seeing his issue on gun control, which is clearly a great disappointment to him and the people that work for him and what i think we heard the president do today is take up the the mantle of the groups who are pushing for gun control and basically say you have to vote on this as a single issue the way people who support the nra vote for this as a single issue. i mean, what the president said, you know, is to the american public when you choose to vote for somebody, understand that you're making a decision and you should expect your elected officials to reflect your views on gun control and that was a
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very clear, you know, signal to say that you have to vote on that issue the way you vote on lots of other issues because we cannot compete with the nra that makes this a single issue and it's very powerful as a result and, you know, what he said is is this is a political choice we make and, you know, no ifs, ands or buts about it and jake pointed out he can blame the congress for blocking the collection of gun data, et cetera but tried after new town and failed and the question is whether now this becomes a larger issue again, the democrats who are for gun control will take up because again, this is an issue within the democratic party, as well.
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it's not just a republican democrat issue but a geographical issue and the president clearly signalled it's something he intends to take on. >> evan perez is getting new information on the kinds of weapons apparently used. what are you learning? >> wolf, just before i get to that real quick i wanted to just touch on something that both gloria and jake were talking about, the politics of guns frankly is something the administration is hesitant about. you have atf, the agency that's supposed to oversee gun regulation will be without a leader in the next few weeks because the acting director, his term is ending. his time expires within the next month and administration don't intend to nominate anyone. while i understand that the president has tried in the wake of some of these shootings to
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get this going, they really things they could be doing, as well, they are not doing but you he thin mentioned we have information these are three pistols recovered and one long gun recovered at the scene believed to belong to the shooter and what is interesting about that, if the shooter, we believe he's 20 years old would indicate he would have had to obtain these weapons not by himself because you have to be 21 to buy pistols, handguns under the law. now the question is how did he obtain these firearms, pistols, because he would have to get them as gifts from friends or family or buy them perhaps at a gun show or perhaps, you know, buy them illegally. that will be the focus of the investigation by the atf, by local law enforcement, how he obtained these weapons he was able to use today. >> president obama saying we as
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we're following breaking news, go up, let's go to the
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former cnn law enforcement tom and matt and pamela brown. we're looking at live pictures coming in from rose -- roseberg. >> they recovered four guns, three pistols, a long gun. it's believed they did belong to the suspect. it was unclear because as you know there was an exchange of gunfire between law enforcement and the gunman. so right now, atf, of course, is tracing these weapons to see how the gunman obtained them. he's only 20 years old we learned from officials and in oregon you have to be 21 to legally buy a gun. so the question is, how did he obtain it? it given to him from a family member, a friend, did he get it
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at a gun show or did he obtain it illegally? buy it online? these are questions authorities looking at and atf has canine at the scene. there was four weapons recovered. >> local police say the gunman, 20-year-old gunman exchanged fire with law enforcement and the gunman was shot and killed. tom, they said they found multiple victims in different classrooms suggesting the shooter went from classroom to the classroom and opened fire. >> this is similar to the virginia tech shooting. went to a row of classrooms shooting everybody and went to the next one. by the time he was done, 32 people were killed including himself. we had that multiple shooting. if he had an assault rifle, this would be similar to sandy hook eloqueementary
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elementary. they can fire at a rate of 700 rounds per minute depending on reloading time. this is a prolific amount of firepower for people who are literally sitting ducks in the chairs. >> and there is no gun suppo supposedly allowed. they are looking at the gunman's social media activities, especially the night before the attack and some are suggesting it was actually alerting people, on to something, he was going to do something like this and some of the people he was communicating with were egging him on. >> people left notes and now they use social media to manifest their information, threats and those things. so this is not a surprise. >> it is surprising, it should be surprising no one reportedly reported these planned activities to law enforcement as far as we know. >> wolf, that may seem like the
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common sense answer but if you look back at history over the last year, there has always been signs since these incidents happened and it didn't happen here. in fact, people even encouraged it. >> you saw tom, a clearly enraged president of the united states and make a ten or 12-minute speech. this is the 15th time he's gone out and made a statement on television following a mass shooting like this and says something needs to be done common sense gun legislation. what do you think? the next step is what? what, mr. president? put out a plan, program. this was what we were going to do and address firearms, who can have them? under what conditions. this is what we'll do about the we mental health problems in the country. layout a plan. get the people behind it. lead us. it's great to be so sympathetic
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band the mourner in chief, as he is after the events, but then when that settles lead, tell what you want, tell where you say we should go, tell us what the american people think will be a reasonable plan to address this violence. >> because matthew you spent your career at the alcohol, tobacco, firearms agency which is supposed to be in charge of guns and the president repeatedly says why is it that the united states alone among industrialized countries, advanced countries have these mass killings that come up every few weeks or months. how do you stop this? >> i think you go back to the president's speech but you have to remember also, the president is a very intelligent guy and lawyer. he knows the firearms laws are complex. i would channel him to nominate an atf director to make sure we have the strength of someone that can work on all sides of the aisle, collaborate and get this sweeping firearms legislation-the-talks about and as tom said, develop a plan of action. talk is cheap, we need action. >> and we're showing our viewers
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live pictures, aerial photos, live video coming in from the umpqua community college in oregon. any indication, pamela, we'll be getting specific new recommendations for what the president describes as common sense gun legislation coming in from the executive branch of the u.s. government? >> well, that is certainly hope and you heard in the the president's speech that he seems to be at wit's end and says we need to come together as tom alluded to and come up with a plan that will work and bring both sides together so i wouldn't be surprised if we see something laid out from the executive branch to, as tom said, lay out what can be done because you have to other side, the gun lobby, who very strong in washington who has prevented other legislation from happening. so the question is what will they lay out that they can get on board with. >> and usually there's -- the frustration level increases for those who want what the president calls common sense gun legislation as we get closer and
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closer to elections here in the united states. let's take another quick break. much more right after this.
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state police say ten people are dead, more than 20 injured. those numbers could change, could go up. president obama says thoughts and prayers simply not enough to stop gun violence in the united states.
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it's become all too routine, he says. let's bring in brian todd. brian, you're mapping out the area where all this happened. show our viewers. >> wolf, new information about how this played out on the ground. according to police dispatch transmissions and sources familiar with the investigation, at least some gunfire took place at snyder hall. we'll map that out for you. this is snyder hall. some of the gunfire took place here. we're told tonight by a professor who was nearby that he believes most of it took place there. there were initial reports that some gunfire also took place at the science building on campus right next to snyder hall but we just spoke to ken carlone, the chair of the science department, he was there at the time. he says he's 99% certain there was no gunfire inside the science building. he got students into a center hallway with no windows and hunkered down. he says he's almost certain the gunman never got in there. according to the police dispatcher, an officer reported exchanging shots with the shooter at snyder hall. the officer in this dispatch report said he was in a classroom in the southeast corner of snyder hall.
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now, according to our mapping out of this campus, we believe this is the southeast corner of snyder hall so that officer might have reported gunshots, exchanging gunshots with the gunman about at this point in that building. snyder is a building used for classes, workshops and meetings. law enforcement sources tell us the shooter started in one classroom, started moving to others including, of course, snyder hall. initial reports it might have been in the science building we were just told by a professor there that he does not believe that that occurred in this science building here which is the ground view of the science building right there. multiple patients in multiple classrooms, also, wolf, we spoke with nancy noak, a professor who teaches a writing class at the community college. she says she was in the educational skills building, that's this one right here. she says that she never heard the shots fired. this is about a five to seven-minute walk from snoto sn. a colleague came into her office, told her there was a
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shooter. she said she and the colleague moved to get students into a safer room in the building. they were on lockdown, she says, until law enforcement officers came in and gave them the all clear. according to the douglas county fire marshal, it took law enforcement a long time to secure each classroom. and, again, you see the layout of umpqua community college. it's somewhat confined but it's about a hundred acres backed up to the umpqua river right here. it's along interstate 5 which is right there. there are at least 16 buildings on campus but when you count them from the air you can count more auxiliary buildings and other facilities in this area. according to the college board, the school has just over 2,000 undergrad students, many of them are part time. these are images of the campus, very pastoral, beautiful campus where this tragedy occurred today. >> terrible tragedy. another mass shooting on a college campus in the united states. at least ten people shot and killed. at least 20 people injured. those numbers could go up.
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that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. we're going to continue cnn's breaking news coverage of what happened with erin burnett out front that starts right now. . a horrific mass shooting. at this moment at least ten people are dead, more than 20 wounded. some of those victims right now fighting for their lives. the governor of oregon kate brown says a 20-year-old man opened fire on the campus of umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. the shooter entering multie classrooms. witnesses describing panic and chaos as students ran for their lives. when police arrived they exchanged fire with the gunman, he was killed. a source says four guns were recovered from the scene and we'll be telling you more about those. investigators now believe the gunman discussed his plans for mass murder on

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