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this morning. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts right now. we're following two major stories today. first, brand-new information coming in about the mass shooting at an oregon community college. nine people are dead today. stories of heroism and bravery, though, emerging from the horror, including one man who survived seven gunshots after his family says he rushed the gunman. hurricane joaquin, a powerful category 4 storm. extremely dangerous. it churns in the atlantic. a new forecast out just one minute ago. where will this storm make landfall? hello, everyone, i'm john berman. >> hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. witnesses describe thinking at first it was fireworks or even
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books dropping, but then they quickly realized unfolding in front of them was a horrific shooting rampage, four days into their school day. now more disturbing details are coming out about what happened and why at oregon's umpqua community college that left nine victims dead, nine others injured. >> at this point we do not know the identity of most of the victims. it is their stories that matter, that should and will be our focus when we learn them. there is new information about the killer, 26 years old. he was armed with four guns as he entered classrooms, firing. the shooting rampage lasted about ten minutes. that's judging from the time dispatchers received reports of shots fired to the moment that officers reported code 4, suspect down. witnesses say within those ten minutes, he asked some of the victims about their religion. this is the father of one wounded student. >> this man had enough time -- i don't know how much time elapsed
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before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was. are you a christian, he would ask them? if you're a christian, stand up. they would stand up. good, because you're a christian, you're going to see god in just about one second, and then he shot and killed them. >> our ana cabrera has more from roseburg, oregon. ♪ >> reporter: overnight a massive candlelight vigil for the victims of umpqua community college's mass shooting. disturbing new details coming from a father, whose daughter was hit in the back by a bullet, describing how the gunman targeted those who said they were christian. >> are you a christian, he would ask them? and if you're a christian, stand up. and they would stand up. and he said, good, because you're a christian, you're going to see god in just about one second. and then he shot and killed them. and he kept going down the line doing this.
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to people. >> reporter: thursday morning, around 10:38 a.m., 911 dispatch receives the first calls for help. >> the active shooter at ucc, 1140 umpqua college road. someone is outside the doors. >> reporter: police say the 26-year-old gunman was carrying body armor and loads of ammunition, enough for a prolonged gun fight, along with three pistols and one long rifle. entering a classroom he open fire, shooting a teacher at point-blank range, according to witnesses. students overheard the gunshots. >> it was rapid fire over and over and over again. you can hear the people -- you could hear them moving and crying. >> i said to the teacher, we need to get out of here right now. then we heard the second and third gunshots. >> reporter: within minutes officers swarmed the campus. >> exchanging shots with him. he's in a classroom. >> exchanging gunshots right now with a male. he's in the classroom on the
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southeast side of snyder hall. >> reporter: the shooting began in snyder hall. it didn't end there. the shooter continuing his rampage into the science building. casualty found in at least two different classrooms. >> our ana cabrera joins us now by phone. we know so many people in that community are grieving just aas many people asking questions about what can be done now. >> reporter: and that is the big question, not only why did this happen and how do you prevent this from happening to somebody else, some other community? it's interesting because the sheriff, who's now taking a lead role in the investigation, at least the face of the investigation and updating the media, has in the past been a staunch opponent of any new gun control legislation. in fact, as recently as just a couple of years ago following sandy hook when legislation was moving its way through korngs he himself, john hanlin, the sheriff of douglas county, he wrote a letter to vice president joe biden saying regardless of
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what legislation was passed in congress, he refused to necessarily uphold any new gun control laws. and, in fact, he was just asked about his stance now that this is a situation that hits home. this morning on "new day" listen to his response. >> my position on it has not changed. >> so you still believe that it's not about gun laws. it's not about uniform background checks, none of those things would help, sir? >> again, i want to stay focused on this investigation and the welfare of the community and the welfare of the families and the victims in this horrific incident. and i'm not going to waste the time today or any time in the real near future having the firearm debate. >> reporter: again, that was sheriff john hanlin, who is continuing to investigate exactly what led up to this shooting and what motivation the 26-year-old gunman may have had.
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again, the gun control debate is, again, front and center in our country right now. the president addressing the nation for the 15th time following a mass shooting since he's been president. john? >> ana cabrera for us in roseburg, thanks so much. obviously, right now a huge question today as the investigation is very much under way as we speak, is why, the investigation into the shooter and what could possibly be the motive behind something as horrific as this is happening right now. let's -- for much more on that, let's go over to debora, who has been following that. >> we're learning more about the shooter. right now it's just beginning to emerge as to who he was. let's take a quick look about what we do know about him. first of all, 26-year-old christopher harper mercer. investigators linked him to the college in to ways. first, an e-mail address to the college. second, a college theater group in which he's listed as production assistant on an upcoming production.
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also his mother lives just five miles from that campus, so he knows where it was. now, he does have a relatively small online profile, a footprint. what we do know, he's on a dating website. and his political views, he describes himself as conservative, also he's religious but not spiritual, and his hobeys are internet, movies and also killing zombies, which appears to be a reference to some video game. "the new york times" quoting individuals there on the ground saying that he used to wear military-style clothing every day and that he had a very close relationship with his mother, even though he himself on his profile says that he was living in southern california. he had a lot of weapons. three handguns, a long gun, a bullet proof vest, body armor as well as a lot of ammunition. you can see on some videos of forensic investigators they are simply picking up all those casings he left behind. he was able to kill people in two different classrooms, two
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different buildings. he was online. he was blogging. one of those he's talking about the gunman who killed those two reporters in virginia. and he seems almost obsessed about, they were alone and unknown one day, but then, quote, when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. seems the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight. this is somebody was seeking companionship, perhaps seeking relevancy, and his mother is quoted in one of the newspapers as saying he did have some mental issues. the family right now really dealing with this tragedy and how their son could have committed this horrible, horrible act, kate and john. >> absolutely. thanks so much. a lot more to learn. so many questions unanswered. institute massacre in oregon, it also brings back many, many memories of the massacre in newtown, connecticut, at sandy hook elementary school, when 20 first graders and 6 educators
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were gunned down in their classrooms. since the sandy hook shooting in 2012, more than 87,000 americans have been killed by guns. that's according to a massachusetts gun control group. an astounding number. >> president obama, he was at the white house last night, an angry address to the nation. he said americans have become numb to gun violence. he has now spoken 15 times after mass shootings during his presidency. >> communities have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. we come together filled with sorrow for the 13 americans that we have lost. with gratitude for the lives that they led and with a determination to honor them through the work we carry on. >> i have come here tonight as an american, who like all americans, to pray with you today and we'll stand by you tomorrow. >> and the federal government stands ready to do whatever's
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necessary to bring whoever's responsible for this heinous crime to justice. >> all of us are heartbroken by what's happened. and i offered the thoughts and prayers not only, myself and michelle, but also the country as a whole. >> and each time i learn the news, i react not as a president but as anybody else would, as a parent. in the hard days to come, that community needs us to be at our best as americans, and i will do everything in my power as president to help. the lives taken from us were unique. the memories their loved ones carry are unique. they will carry them and endure long after the news cameras are gone. >> any shooting is troubling. obviously, this reopens the pain
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of what happened in ft. hood five years ago. >> the country has to do some soul-searching about this. this is becoming the norm. and we take it for granted. in ways that as a parent are terrifying to me. >> the good news is i'm confident the outpouring of strength and fellowship and love across charleston today indicates the degree to which those old vestages of hatred are not enough. >> joining us is nicole, who lost her 6-year-old son in newtown, connecticut, now the president of sandy hook promise, pushing for tougher gun control laws. thank you for being with us. as always, we're just very sorry about the circumstances in which we're talking to you. what was your reaction yesterday when you first heard the news of what was going on in oregon?
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>> i was going into a meeting right as i heard the news. and i tried immediately not to think about it, in hon allesty. that's impossible. i went into my meeting and i got ten words out of my mouth before i burst into tears because i just so horribly know what that community's going through in what those families are going through. >> nicole, why do you try to not think about it? >> because it's so painful. it's -- it's just really impossible to understand how this continues to happen and the thoughts and the prayers, the anger is not enough. there's action. and after every incident, it's the same thing. we hear the same arguments. we need more guns, we need less guns, we need this policy or we
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need laxer policies. we need to change our acceptance of this. we need to resensitize ourselves to this. what i always wait to hear after every single shooting is the signs that were missed. because there are always signs. perhaps if we focused a little more on those and changed our behavior to how we hear those signs or read those signs and recognize those signs, maybe we can actually start stopping this violence before it happens and not have to get into this ridiculous fight over an inanimate object all the time that just frustrates and hurts. >> one thing we've heard, from the democratic governor of oregon, now is not the time to bring up the discussion of how this happened. now is not the time to talk about guns. what do you think about that? >> well, tell me, when is the time? if the president's had to come out in 15 times about a mass shooting in less than three
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years, if there are people continuing to die, every single day, when is the time? in the five or six days between a mass shooting? in the hours between one person killing another? the time is now. this isn't something we just put on the back burner and deal with another day. this is a problem we have in this country right now and it's something we need to deal with right now because it's only going to get worse. >> nicole, of course, there's a lot that isn't known yet about what happened in this shooting and what the motivation or circumstances were around this man who did this. we don't know if he got the gun legally. we do not know with certainty any existing mental health issues of this person. it does make me think, though, when i think about that, a message you sent to your supporters after this. you wrote to them, we have to pay attention to signs that someone has the potential to
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inflict harm on others, themselves or others. we have to intervene, we have to say something, we have to do something. beyond gun laws, if that gets kaupt again and people throw in the towel and say, nothing is going to change. when you write to your supporters to say something, to do something, are you talking about family? >> i'm talking about family. i'm talking about community. and i'm talking about our schools and our youth organization systems. kids texting, messaging, facebook posts, instagram posts, onlike forums, there are -- in mass shootings in particular there are almost always signs. but too often we don't take those signs seriously or he we don't know what to do with that information. and sandy hook promise, we offer a training program called say something and we go out and teach kids and their parents, how do you recognize those signs and what do you do about it. how do you take action.
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we know we've already averted at least one tragedy with our own training. we don't know much about this shooter yet. i've heard speculation about his online activity. i'm waiting for confirmed facts. i guarantee you, i guarantee you, there are -- he's going to have told someone about his act. someone out there knew. we saw it in all the previous shootings. we're going to see it in this one, too. someone could have made a difference if they had said something. >> nicole, in just a little bit we'll have governor mike huckabee, republican presidential candidate, on the show with us. he sent his prayers and thoughts to the victims in oregon, let's make that clear, but one thing he said after past shootings, charleston, for instance, if the people in the church were armed, if they had guns inside, this wouldn't have happened. i think he said in schools, perhaps if people had guns, this wouldn't happen. is there a message you would like to send to governor huckabee? >> i certainly wouldn't want to go to the same church or school as him or his family.
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and i believe in oregon there is absolute permission to conceal carry a weapon. i'm sure there were probably students at that community college who were concealed carrying, and there's no such thing -- i refuse to believe that more guns is the answer. there are already over 300 million guns in this country. how many more do we need? how many people need to be armed? how many people will just die, either accidentally killing someone else or being mistaken for a perpetrator if we just have everyone shooting guns everywhere? it's just -- it's a ridiculous notion with no evidence to back it up whatsoever. >> nicole hockley, again, we preach your input. >> only talk to you around -- around these shootings. we always remember your beautiful son. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up for us, we will speak to former governor mike huckabee, republican presidential candidate.
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how he now responds to what you heard from nicole hockley and the president's speech, talking about the need to creation gun violence now. we'll have so much more. we're going to try to talk about the victims. the little we know so far about the victims in this tragedy. we are hearing about some of them who have already been coming out as heroes, who stood up during those moments of terror, including pictures you're seeing here of an army vet ron whoegs family says he rushed at the gunman. he was shot seven times. ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza.
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of fire, literally, to keep the oregon massacre from being worse. >> one is chris mince, an army veteran. you see pictures of him right there. he took several bullets trying to protect the lives of others, according to his family. you see him right there recovering in his hospital bed. look at the smile on his face. jean casarez is here with much more on his story. >> a smile after being shot seven times. >> it's amazing. >> his family just told us, shot seven times in the back, the stomach, in both arms and both legs. the family is saying he has two broken legs. this was a local guy. he went to high school in the area. graduated 2003. he was a football player. then he went on to the u.s. army, serving this country. he had gone back to college to get his college degree. as he was going to school yesterday, he got a phone call from his dad and he said, it's your 6-year-old's son today. tell him grandpa says happy birthday. he remembered that and his family explains more.
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>> tries to block the door from keeping the gunman coming in. gets shot three times. hits the floor. looks up at the gunman and says, it's my son's birthday today. gets shot two more times. >> he's going to have to learn to walk again, but he walked away with his life. that's more than so many other people did. >> now, we do know that he has spoken with his cousin and our producer has spoken with that cousin who said that he just saw him and that chris didn't talk about himself when he was asked, how are you, he talked about everybody else, and he said, people died in this and just started crying. and we do wanted to tell people that the family has set up a gofund me site because shot seven times, two broken legs, they're asking for any help. and we're not getting a lot of names of the survivors or the victims, but this family stepped forward and they wanted to talk about chris mince so we could know a little about him. >> it's interesting. chris mince didn't want to talk about chris mince. shows the bravery and heroism of
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this man. >> he has a long recovery ahead of him. as his sister even said, he's got his life. what an amazing person. thanks for bringing the story to us. from the time the shooting started, doctors and nurses had just minutes to prepare. this is a small community we're talking about here. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta will be joining us next with how they were able to handle this major trauma event so quickly. >> still ahead, republican presidential candidate mike huckabee says president obama's comments after the oregon shooting, they were, quote, ignore rantly inflammatory. we'll ask the former governor what he would do about gun violence in this country now and what he would say to the families of the victims in oregon. today, jason is here to volunteer
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the small community in oregon is still trying to get its hands around this tragedy that has rocked their home. there are some glimmers of good news among the shock and sadness. hospital officials have announced a short time ago that some of the patients in their care are improving. >> that is good news. one of them expected to go home today. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, at mercy medical center in roseburg. we know so little about the victims. what have you been learning? >> reporter: well, yeah, we did hear this piece of good news, as you point out, that another patient expected to go home today. i want to paint a little bit of a picture for you of what happened over the last several hours. i talked to the doctors who were
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on call at the time this all transpired. they found out about this over the scanners, and they were officially notified about ten minutes before patients started showing up. very, very quickly things started to happen here. it's a relatively small hospital in a relatively small town, so they had a lot to sort of manage quickly. they told me people who started just coming in, people who weren't on call, other doctors came in, retired doctors, doctors who weren't even practicing anymore, came in. that's the nature of these small towns. as a result, ten patients came in. there are three now remaining in the hospital. three have been -- three patients have been transferred to other hospitals. but the patients that are still here are expected to do well. one going to go home probably later on today. it's a little difficult to tell you just how emotional it is, though, in a small town. everybody knows everybody. there are staff that had direct relationships with some of these patients. i asked the chief medical
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officer about this. take a listen. >> i think that the more difficult was the families coming in and not knowing who was included and who wasn't. who was involved in it. and i think that was the emotional trauma of trying to keep people together and get information out for them. >> many of our staff, our pastoral staff, were just with the patients. you don't have to say anything. you just have to be there to support them right now. the challenging time will be the next few days, weeks, months, as they replay these incidents and, our staff, too. they need the support, the ongoing support. >> reporter: a lot of physical healing, obviously, took place over the last several hours but you got the sense there that emotional healing for the patients and for the staff themselves. with a small town like this, this really hits just about everybody that lives here. >> you really hear how hard it is for them in their voices. dr. sanjay gupta, we appreciate it. >> thanks, sanjay. the shooting already being
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folks who have known and watched the president for years, say this is as angry as they have ever seen him. president obama addressing the oregon shooting from the white house. it was the 15th time during his presidency he's given remarks following incidents of gun violence. >> and of course, what's also routine is that somebody, somewhere will comment and say, obama politicized this issue. well, this is something we should politicize. i would ask news organizations, because i won't put these facts forward, have news organizations tally up the number of americans who have been killed through terroristic attacks over the last decade and the number of americans who have been killed by gun violence. and post those side by side on your news reports. this won't be information coming
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from me. it will be coming from you. >> now, some of the numbers the president highlighted them last night, cnn has collected them independently from government figures. from 2004 to 2013, more than 300,000 people were killed by gunfire, and the number here and abroad due to terrorism during that same time, 313. something to consider. let's discuss this whole issue and this massacre. joining us now is republican presidential candidate former governor, mike huckabee. governor, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it on this day as everyone keeps their thoughts -- as you pointed out, keeping your thoughts with the people of oregon on this moment. i do want to ask you about the statement, though, that you made following sending your well wishes, after the president's statement. you said that he's exploiting a tragedy and you also said, at best, his political pronouncements are premature. at worst the president is bei i
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ignorantly inflammatory. if not now, when you see the number of school shootings, the number of massacres, it seems like they almost do happen every week, so when would be the time, governor? >> oh, i think it's time to talk about it, but we should talk about what these shooters want. it's apparent from the postings online this shooter wanted to be famous. who makes him famous? frankly, it's all of the television networks that go 24/7 putting up his name and face. i'm wondering if part of the conversation we need to have is whether or not, instead of tinkering with the second amendment, i never hear anybody say, let's tinker with the first. let's put restrictions, sxipt to be very clear. i'm not for putting government restrictions on what the media can do because i hold the first amendment sacred, but i would think maybe what the police official last night said, i
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agree with. let's not give this guy his moment of fame. let's not put his face on the screen. >> governor, you won't see his face on your screen and you won't hear us say his name. >> let me just finish this a minute. when i hosted my own television show, i refused to give the name of these mass killers. >> and we're doing the same. >> i just feel like we only give others the idea. >> so, governor, we haven't said his name once, showed his picture once. i want to know beyond that, beyond not saying names or showing faces, what you would do as president to address the issue of these mass shootings, to try to keep them from happening in the future? >> john, i wish there was a simple solution. i think surely if there was, we would have found it by now. we know most of these people are mentally deranged, so do we need to do a better job in mental health? you bet we do. do we need to have a better understanding of what the signs are? you bet we do.
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do we need to have a more aggressive approach to people who are mentally ill and showing these signs to keep firearms out of their hands? of course we do. but that's not the solutions i hear. i keep waiting for someone to tell me what new gun law can we pass that would have prevented this shooting or sandy hook or aurora or charleston. just tell me what gun law that is because i've yet to hear somebody tell me what that is. >> on the issue of gun laws, we actually had the mother of -- the mother of dillon hockley, who was killed at sandy hook, who was killed at newtown. she was on the show a few minutes ago and we asked her what message she would send to you, one of the people in power, one of the people running to be president of the united states, and she talked about guns. listen here, governor. >> i certainly wouldn't want to go to the same church or school as him or his family. i refuse to believe that more guns is the answer. there are already over 300 million guns in this country. how many more do we need?
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>> governor, she was specifically reacting to something you said after charleston, the shooting in charleston that perhaps had the parishioners had guns the shooting would not have been so bad. we asked her what she thought about your idea, perhaps army people in schools, in chumps, would help mitigate these shootings. >> john, i can just remind you of something? let's ask this question. what stopped that shooter in oregon yesterday? what stopped him? he was continuing to shoot. what stopped him? it was a police officer with what? a conversation? reading from a book? it was a cop with a gun that stopped him. that college campus about a year ago had a discussion whether to arm their security guards. and they chose and decided not to. so, they had a security guard on duty, but he was unarmed. and it was when a police officer arrived, who was armed, who
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stopped that shooter. so, when i hear people say, fewer guns, fewer guns in the hands of crazy people, i agree. but maybe a gun in the hand of a police officer, in a security officer, or in a well-trained citizen who could intervene and at least save some of the lives if not all of them. >> but that's -- you made a key statement there at the end. save some of the lives. if someone wants to go in and die anyway, still goes in to do this kind of shooting, he's going to get some shots off. some people are going to still die even if you arm everyone in that room, aren't they, governor? >> somebody very likely will. look, we go back to the time, people kill eef other from the time of cane and able. >> have there been mass shootings every month since the time of kane and able? charleston two months ago, what happened in virginia last month, this in oregon yesterday. has that been going on for
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thousands of years? >> it's been with bombs, it's been with every kind of weapon imaginable. we don't have as often somebody going in and putting a suicide bomb. i've been to israel dozens of times. i remember the suicide bombings that happened regularly until they put up a security fence and kept the suicide bombers out. there were thousands of innocent civilians blown up not because somebody had a gun but because somebody made a bomb. oklahoma city wasn't a gun. it was a bomb. we know that boston wasn't a gun, it was a bomb. so, if you have crazy people who want to kill a lot of individuals, they'll find a way to do it. again, we always have this discussion about the particular weapon. we've got a human behavior problem. we've got a problem with uncivilized savages. we have a problem with people who elevate themselves. this particular gunman targeted christians, apparently. i might suggest that if people
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really followed the spirit of christ, which is to put others above self instead of self above others, people wouldn't murder each other like this. >> governor -- >> we have a nation, a world in which people have obliterated that moral character responsibility and accountability for their actions. >> this is absolutely -- well, hopefully a lot of folks will say, this is not the last time we all discuss this and this is discussed on the campaign trail. another issue, a very important issue for you and this all happened in the last minutes. kim davis' meeting with the pope, governor, the vatican just a short time ago put out a statement to kind of pushing back on the meeting saying that, yes, that -- acknowledging they met but saying that shouldn't be seen as an endorsement of her position. when she left that meeting, she seemed to think that the pope was supporting her and telling her to stay strong. what do you make of the vatican's pushback on that? because this is something so near and dear to your heart.
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>> well, we know the pope told abc's terry mother ran that people have a right to religious liberty. he said that to him him on the plane back to rome. this morning kim davis' attorney also released a statement, and clarified the meeting happened at the invitation of the vatican. . wasn't initiated by kim davis or her attorneys. it was a private meeting. it wasn't one of a long line of people lined up. it was private. a car was sent for her. they took her to the vatican embassy in washington. the meeting was held. it was very personal, very private. i wasn't in the meeting. i couldn't tell you exactly what happened. and i couldn't explain why after some clarity about the meeting the vatican seems to be pushing back other than, there has been an uproar from many people, especially on the left, who don't like kim davis, who don't appreciate that she took a stand
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for her conscience and maybe there's just a feeling that the vatican doesn't want to engage in controversy. but i think the pope made it clear, that he does support religious liberty, he does support the notion that a person has a right to express their conscience. and he called it, by the way, not a religious right but a human right. something bigger than just the laws of one country, one state, one city. >> governor mike huckabee, thank you so much for weighing in on all of this. thanks for your time. >> thank you, kate and john. >> of course. we also have breaking news coming out of washington. we'll bring to you the secretary of education, he is leaving the administration. we'll have a live report and update from the white house. that's going to be coming up next. plus, a powerful storm churning very close to the united states. an extremely dangerous system. will it make impact? the very latest coming up.
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secretary of education for president obama is stepping down in deis sem ber and the white house just confirmed it in the last several minutes, and he is going to be taking a few questions as he is going to make the announcement. john b. will be stepping in. and tom vilsack is the only remaining original cabinet member at the department of agriculture, and shawn donovan at the department of housing omb is still there, and i am revealing too much obama administration information, but it is a sign that he is winding down. when obama was a political
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figure in chicago, and so he with because part of the administration when the president came in, and the president will be taking questions later on and he will be asked obvious ly about syria and the russians engaging in the air strikes, just as the coalition is, and how is the deconfliction process going with the russian, and of course sh, president is going to be asked about what is happening in response to what happened in oregon, the community college shoot, and does the president plan to advance legislation aimed at more gun control, and the president said i guess that we need to po lliticize this, a that is going to be a question. >> yes, and thank you much, jim. a lot more to come from us as well. we have a new forecast just in on the track of hurricane joaquin, and when we have the latest on this powerful storm, and how big of a threat now to the east coast.
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breaking news, the u.s. coast guard says they are currently searching for a u.s. cargo ship with 33 people on board that is caught in hurricane joaquin. >> and we just got the updated forecast for this massive storm, and so we are going to chad myers for the latest. what are you hearing? >> i am hearing that the storm is going to be staying out to e sea.
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we had one model that is out to e sea which is the european sea, and all week the american model said, no, it is coming on shore, and now we know that the european model is correct like it was for sandy three years ago, and so now, there is the path, and missing the u.s. all altogether, but making significant waves in the ocean, and significant flood ing in th carolinas. this is the big story for the weekend, because some areas will have 10 to 15 inches of rainfall and some spots close to that, and there is not an area in that area that won't flood something. >> thank you for that update, chad. >> legal view with ashleigh banfield is will start after the break. up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company.
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college road -- >> he came in and there are the was gun fire immediately. >> we ran different directions. i was praying they would make it. >> and you could hear the people -- you could hear them moving and crying. >> i i was terrified. i have never been more terrified for my life ever. >> they call their parents and the loved ones and the "i love yous" and whether they were the last


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