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getting likes and comments. >> right. be sure to watch cnn special report "being 13: inside the secret world of teens" tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. that's going to do it for me. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. breaking news this morning -- rain and floods, the likes of which few americans alive have ever seen before. rescue cruise going door to door in south carolina, searching for people who may be trapped inside. so far seven people have lost their lives. it is feared there could be many more. these folks, they were forced to make a human chain to get to safety. hundreds of people have been rescued by boat and air so far between columbia and charleston. >> nearly 2 feet of rain has fallen in just a few days in
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some parts of the state. you can just look at the flooding right now. rivers continuing to spill over their banks. more than 70 miles of i-95 was closed late yesterday because of this historic flooding. people living in the capital city are also being warned they could be without water now for much of this week as the flooding overpowers the water systems there. let's get to all of this and what it's going to look like today and beyond. nick valencia is live from columbia, south carolina, and chad myers is in the cnn weather center with much more. nick, first to you, you're right there on the banks, which are obviously spilling over in many places. what does it look like today in south carolina? >> it's just remarkable, kate, when you look at the impact this rain has had. just consistent downpour. the intensity of that rain has stopped. it really isn't raining right now. that's the scary part for local officials here. they worry that residents are going to look out their window and think this is all over. when you look at the weather models, it seems this storm is
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lingering and hovering over the state of south carolina, nowhere seemingly harder hit than here in column bee, yeah the state capital. the concern, of course, this is in the middle of the state. this water has to go somewhere. perhaps towards the coast. that creates another problem for places like charleston. let's get back to that point about the water. i just spoke to the mayor of columbia, steven benjamin, who told me few places have had their water restored but there are still thousands of people without usable or drinkable water. they worry that that is going to be the issue going forward. we were in charleston yesterday morning and there was also an issue there with the toxicity in the water. a lot of the sewage system was damaged just bit sheer force of the water moving through. there's a lot of oil, gas and who knows what else in this water. we were seeing people go out with a sense of adventure, perhaps curiosity or boredom from cabin fever. that's what the governor is trying to keep people from doing. they want people to shelter in place. they don't want people out on the roads. no unnecessary rescues.
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there have been hundreds of water rescues across the state. national guard is on standby. about 600 national guard troops. also bringing in resources from tennessee. really, it is the issue of this consistency of the rain. where i'm standing right now, just last night, this was all under water. if you can see behind me, this river has swelled to about 15 feet higher than normal. the water, yes, has gone down about two feet, but they think that rain is coming again. more bands of rain coming that could create more problems and further catastrophe. >> nick valencia for us in columbia, south carolina. the governor of south carolina, nikki haley, will brief in 20 minutes to give an an update on the search and rescue operations and the condition of the state as a whole. >> they're on lockdown. >> chad, the volume of water, the amount of rain is staggering and, frankly, historic. >> the water, the rain would not stop coming down. it was three days. i was watching this on radar
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going, please, will this heavy band of rain please move north or south? do something. spread it out, if you can. and it just did not. king street, 21 inches of rainfall. that was in about a 48-hour period. we're talking about this 1,000-year rainfall event. i guess it. i get you're thinking, no way. the last time it rained was like in the year 1,015? no, no. this is the odds of who are the odds of getting a rainfall, and the chances of getting it in south carolina in one year? it's 1,000 to 1. mt. pleasant is by charleston, where this ship is. about 12.50 would be 1 in 100. claudette put down 45 inches in
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texas. allison put down 37 inches in houston. here we go for this storm, 24 inches. so, not a new record-breaker for anywhere in the world, but certainly a big record-maker here for anyone who has ever lived in south carolina since it has been a state. obviously, something may have happened in the year 4. we don't know about that. that's certainly a possibility. 21 inches in atlanta with their historic flood. 20 in nashville with that historic flood. yes, nick said it's still raining. i don't believe we're going to get a lot of rain here in south carolina. it's moved up to north carolina. but the water is just still running off. guys? >> the rain ends and the danger, it is definitely not over. chad's on it. thanks. more news breaking this morning. the u.s. coast guard says it's searching for 33 people miss-a board a missing cargo ship, but the coast guard believes the ship itself has sunk. the "el faro" went missing off the coast of florida in the
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middle of hurricane joaquin. there's been no contact with the ship since then. a short time ago coast guard officials said they are no longer looking for the boat. their focus is solely on finding the 28 americans and five polish nationals on board. they have recovered life boats, life rafrts and have recovered a body. >> we had multiple reports of survival suits that were floating in the water, life rafts and life boats. we had to check each one. we did that methodically because we want to make sure there were no signs of life. we were hoping to find a survivor, so we needed to check every one. >> that search continues. joining to us talk about more and the announcement from the coast guard, alexandra field. looking at this, horrible news for the families of folks on board. they say they're not giving up hope yet, they could still find survivors.
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>> you can't overestimate how difficult it must have been for the family members to listen to the frank words from the coast guard captain. it's the same captain who said, they would not discount someone's will to survive, and that's the hope so many are clinging to. there was a big break in the effort yesterday. it was the first time the weather cleared enough for search planes to fly high and get a good luck over the caribbean sea. that's when they were able to identify a 225-scare mile debris field. after examining that they found a life boat and a life ring, you're seeing on the screen there, that had belonged to the ship. we do know, however, the life boat was in bad condition. there were no survivors above board. there was a second life boat on board that ship. that's what searchers are looking for now. they say they're making every effort to just look for life rafts in the water, potentially life rafts in the water and other survival suits. we do know, as you reported, they found one survival suit, opened it up, human remains. they were not able to identify the person who had been inside that suit. they weren't even able to recover the body because they
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say it is so pressing to devote every resource right now to combing those waters. >> it shows they are still involved in a very active search right now, hoping, hoping -- >> absolutely. this was a 70-000 square mile search area they were able to cover aerially. they have now limited that to two debris fields, that's where they expect they could find people. the coast guard was, again, underlining the very dark reality that the same conditions that would have caused this boat to sink, the same conditions that would have made this search effort so difficult are the conditions people would have faced as they were abandoning ship, making this extremely difficult. >> category 4 storm. >> he made it very clear, we couldn't even get out there. 100-mile-an-hour winds, the search conditions were horrific. turn that around, exactly. >> that's how they would have been akding ship, in that weather. just in to cnn. homeland security is now reopening its investigation into the secret service. this time over allegations that agents accessed the files of a
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sitting member of congress. >> of course, over revolutions that happened right after that that the secret service director, joseph clancy, he now has a different recollection of events when he first heard about this issue from what he previously had told investigators. this all comes down to the files of congressman jason chaffetz. agents -- agents at the secret service say apparently tried to embarrass the congressman after he called for an investigation of the secret service and he's been looking into it. >> now he's announced he's running for speaker of the house so a whole bunch of stories colliding right now. >> one week before the first democratic debate right here on cnn, hillary clinton is getting some bad news in two key states. we'll have that ahead. plus, he is in charge of the investigation of the oregon mass car, one sheriff who had a sandy
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this morning universities in the philadelphia area are on high alert following threats of violence. federal authorities say the threats were made to an unspecified university near the city. now, several schools, including university of pennsylvania and temple, they sent out alerts because of this. to their campus communities. >> drexel university say the threat was made on social media some time after the campus shooting in oregon. the philadelphia schools are open today but students are being told to report anything that looks suspicious. >> a terrifying account of the
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oregon college massacre. tracy hugh is alive because she played dead. >> she's a mother of three and she was shot in the hand. she spoke exclusively to cnn about the horrific ordeal. she said the gunman, when all of this was happening, was calm, even seemed happy, if you can believe it. showed no mercy, even for a woman confined to a wheelchair. here's some of her account of what happened in that classroom. >> i was sitting in the front of the classroom, facing the teacher when everything happened. he just came in and shot towards the back of the wall and told everybody to get in the center of the room. >> reporter: so, de hit anyone when he first shot that first attention? >> no, he just got everybody's attention. everybody looked over to the door. and he had guns with him and he was armed. he had a bell et-proof vest on. he didn't seem like he was, like, anxious or anything. he just seemed like he wanted to
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do that. and he seemed happy about it. he didn't seem stressed. he didn't seem nervous. but when he came in, he told everybody to get on the ground, so everybody tried to huddle up to the ground. then the girl in the wheelchair tried to get -- she tried -- she got off and tried to get down on the ground. >> reporter: wait. there was a woman in the wheelchair during all of this as well? >> yeah. she had a dog with her. but the dog was just on the ground. and she got off the chair. she went on the ground. and then he told her to get back on the chair. and then she tried to climb back on the chair and then he shot her. >> unbelievable that she has even the composure to retell this story so soon after this happened. in a very strange twist this morning, there are now calls for the sheriff in charge of the investigation into this oregon shooting to resign immediately. the brady campaign to prevent gun violence, a pro gun control group wants sheriff hanlan
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replaced because of his past position on guns and posting on youtube a conspiracy theory around the newtown shooting. >> citizens of oregon voted for the expansion of brady background checks in a law signed by governor brown this past may. cnn's ryan young joins us from roseburg, oregon. ryan, you know, i think the families of the victims there don't want politics to be involved in the investigation in the mourning period right now, but clearly there's a lot surrounding this sheriff. >> reporter: clearly. and even here, we've seen -- i want to point out there's a sheriff's department vehicle sitting just over my shoulder here where they're checking on
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everyone's i.d. as they go toward the school. look, the brady campaign wants to prevent gun violence. they say they want the sheriff here to resign immediately. they believe the sheriff's statements and views about gun control and his unwillingness to enforce some laws in the state are reasons why he should step down. that's a conversation a lot of people have mixed feelings about right now, especially in this community with so much pain going on right now. >> absolutely. and on the heels of, that you talk about the pain in this this community, you also had the opportunity to speak to the father of the gunman this weekend. he had some surprising things to say about it all. >> reporter: de have some surprising things. went to his house. we had a 25-minute conversation. five which was an interview we had. i can tell you he was quite open, quite candid, just about his feelings. he did not wanted to talk about his son's mental health but you can understand the pain he was going through. he talked about the other victims involved in this. that's one of the reasons he wanted to talk. he said, look, he didn't know
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what he wanted to say to the families but he wanted them to understand that he was really sorry for what had happened and he understands his son would be considered a monster from now on you and he was very open just about his raw feelings on saturday. >> it has been, as i said before, devastating for me and my family, but we're not alone in this. my heart goes out to all the families that were affected by this. and i know words will not bring your families back and i know that nothing i can say can change what happened, but, please believe me, my thoughts are with all of those families. how on earth could he compile 13 guns? how can that happen, you know? they talk about gun laws, they talk about gun control. every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done. i'm not trying to say that that's to blame for what
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happened, but, chris had not been able to get ahold of 13 guns, it wouldn't have happened. >> reporter: did you know he had 13 guns? >> i had no idea he had any guns. i had no idea he had any guns whatsoever. and i'm a great believer that you don't buy guns, don't buy guns, you don't buy guns. >> reporter: so even you, you want changes. you want the gun laws to change. >> it has to change. it has to change. how can it not? even people that believe in the right to bear arms, you know, what right do you have to take people's lives? that's what guns are. they're killers. as simple as that. it's simple as that. it's black and white. what do you want the gun for? >> reporter: how do you psychoanalyze this? we had that conversation, you walk away sometimes with more questions. you feel for him and you understand his pain.
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but at same time, everyone wants answers as to how this happened. of course, after that interview, you really are left with more questions. of course, he said he hadn't seen his son since he left for oregon. he said he had a good relationship. he said there were no precursors he thought would lead to this, but you have to wonder what else was going on in his life. >> indeed. thanks so much, ryan. hillary clinton just moments ago, she proposed some new gun laws, new gun legislation, executive action she's looking into as a candidate for president now. this in the face of some new poll numbers, which spell trouble for the democratic, can we still say, front-runner? we'll break it down next. and door-to-door searches, hundreds rescued from floodwaters in south carolina. we'll talk to a man who was right in the middle of it and got some amazing video captured a moment of rescue on camera. later this how, south carolina's governor, nikki haley, will be updating everyone on the urgent situation on what today could look like in that
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we have a live picture of hillary clinton in manchester, new hampshire, holding a town hall. she proposed new gun control measures today. some possible executive action she would take if she is elected to the white house. she's also facing some pretty big challenges. new polls from the wa"wall stre journa journal"/nbc news, they view bernie sanders much more favorable than hillary clinton. she's not dpoog well in hypotheticalic match-ups. she trails jeb bush, 49% to 4 %. she leads donald trump 48% to 45%. she trails carly fiorina by eight points. >> take a look in iowa. the numbers aren't good for clinton there either.
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she -- there she'd lose to bush by 11 points. she'd lose to trump by five points. and she'd lose to carly fiorina by 14 points. joining us now to discuss all of this, mike shields, chief of start for republican national committee and, brad woodhouse, former communications director for the democratic national committee. gentlemen, it's great to see you both. >> morning. >> brad, great to see you. brutal numbers for hillary clinton in both new hampshire and iowa. this is obviously when the campaign had been kind of restarting their restart to show a more, you know, more heart and more humor. what are they going to do when they keep seeing numbers like that? >> kate, i'm dumb-founded at that analysis. the polls show that, yes, she's behind senator sanders in new hampshire, where he's the senator from the neighboring state. it also shows she's ahead in iowa, ahead nationally, ahead in south carolina, ahead in nevada.
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>> so you don't believe head-to-heads. you don't think they're worth the copy they're written on? >> these head-to-heads against republicans general election match-ups against republicans in certain states are silly this far out. remember, in the democratic primary, kate, we haven't even had a debate yet. and we're looking at general election polls versus republicans in specific states? i don't think they mean anything and i think what is more meaningful is that she is ahead in every state in the democratic primary except new hampshire. >> you brought up debates. we should say there is a debate coming up right here on cnn one week from tomorrow night. so, thank you for that brief promo. mike, hillary clinton is talking a lot. she's increased the number of interviews she's doing and i think doing she's public appearances, much more of that. this morning she was on the "today" show and she was talking about benghazi. this kevin mccarthy statement from last week that a lot of people have talked about.
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kevin mccarthy talked about the political advantages for republicans with the benghazi investigation. hillary clinton responded out loud really for the first time this morning. let's listen to what she said. >> this committee was set up as they have admitted for the purpose of making a partisan political issue out of the deaths of four americans. i would have never done that. if i were president and there were republicans or democrats who were think being that, i would have done everything to shut it down. >> she was ready for that, mike shields. she certainly was. she says she'll still testify before the committee, if it doesn't disband before then, but doesn't that give her a much better position going into that hearing than before? >> the last time she testified it was a mitigated disaster. it's interesting she's leaning so forward into this. look, her campaign is off the rails. brad knows, i know as political professionals, you try to win the day. it's about, what, 150 days since
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she first put out her video announcing her campaign in april. how many days has she won? she's going to announce something today on gun control. in 2000 she was for gun control. in 2008 she was against gun control. now again she's for gun control. within 14 hours, that story will be out of the news anyway because there will be another e-mail revelation that will come out. i'm sure she's going to try to lean into this. she has to keep coming up with nuances for benghazi. the fact is, this is damaging to her campaign. the numbers you just talked about how reflect how poorly her campaign is going. the only people that see hillary clinton as a good candidate are the people in her campaign and those in washington that seem to be blindly following her. >> she's leading in every national poll. >> right, right. >> the people she's -- >> she's leading, but when you add up the numbers, when you add up the numbers, look at one of the polls, she has 33%. sanders has 28% and biden has 22%. that's 33% for hillary, 50% for someone not hillary. >> joe biden's not in the race.
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joe biden's not even in the race. look, on this benghazi things -- >> not yet. >> -- this is an abomination what the republicans have done. the republican select committee in the house has become an annex of the republican national committee. seven previous congressional investigations found no wrongdoing but they had to set up one more to try to go after hillary clinton. kevin mccarthy said what it was about. it was about to bring her -- about bringing her poll numbers down. it wasn't about substance. >> mike, what do you say about that? that's a pretty strong charge. >> well, look, the fact of the matter is, that committee was set up because the administration and hillary clinton weren't answering questions. we find out about these e-mails. this is a perfect example. hillary clinton believes those are her e-mails. when you work for the government, those are not your eames. those are the people's e-mails and people get to decide whether they get forwarded or classified. she violated all those rules because she plays by her own rules. >> mike, that is wrong. the justice department said she, like every public employee, gets
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to decide what eames are personal, what are business. she turned over -- >> she's never explained why she did it. she's never explained. we know why she did it. she doesn't want people to see her e-mails. >> look, if there's a political argument like this before that committee, then i think hillary may have a point there. >> brad, what is your advice if you're advising her, what's your advice when she goes in before that committee? because after this debate, that is a huge moment for her when she goes before this committee. >> i think she should continue to be transparent. she's been more transparent than any public official has been with respect to releasing e-mails. we didn't get a single e-mail released from either secretary of state in the george bush administration. she's released 33,000 pages. i think be transparent, be forceful, you know, be contrite. she's apologized for the confusion it's caused but don't
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let these people play politics as they have with the lives of four dead americans. >> she just turned her biggest libt into a big net positive for her. how are republicans going to combat that charge if she levels it at this before this committee? >> i think you'll see a committee trying to get to the truth about what happened in benghazi. you'll see it isn't political. all the political stuff we're talking about is not what's going to be in front of that committee. this is an investigation to find out exactly who knew what and what happened when an ambassador and four americans were killed in benghazi. we still haven't gotten to the bottom of that. there's been stonewalling. the administration has not been transparent on this. this committee would not have any ground, it would have democrats working with republicans if they actually told the truth and we got to the bottom of what happened. i actually look forward to seeing the committee prove it's not political because they're going to ask substantive impes. the last time she went in front of a committee is when she said, what difference does it make. so hillary's performance in
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front of these committees is not what i would call transparent. >> kate, they cannot prove it's not political because by the time this hearing takes place, the republicans will have a speaker of the house that said that's what it was entirely about. >> we'll see. >> they can't disprove that it wasn't political. it absolutely was political. >> we'll have to see, because that charge has put kevin mccarthy in hot water and won him a new challenge from jason chaffetz. a reminder for all of you, the first democratic presidential debate airs one week from tomorrow, tuesday, october 13th right here on cnn at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> very exciting. any minute we'll hear from south carolina's governor nikki haley on the flooding there. desperate rescues under way. first responders searching for people that could be trapped by these waters. we'll speak to a storm chaser who filmed just a stunning rescue ahead. and a face-off on capitol
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hill as the battle for speaker of the house heats up. will anyone have enough votes to win the position?
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back and forth to vermont. this system track train 55 we're told. we're waiting for pictures and more information. word is a derailment south of mt. peelier. >> amtrak confirms that. first responders headed to the scene. as we get more information, we'll bring it to you. at this very moment we're waiting to hear from the south carolina governor, nikki haley, you see a picture of the podium she'll be speaking from. she'll be addressing the state and really the nation about this historic rainfall and flooding that has hammered state. they are not out of the woods yet in terms of the danger. some areas have seen almost 2 feet of rain in just the past few days. state officials say hundreds of water rescues were needed over the weekend as highway after highway seemed to be shut down as the water rushed in. the flooding triggered by tremendous rain coming from hurricane joaquin. it's taken the lives of seven people in the carolinas. the death toll is expected still to rise. >> as of this morning, 389 reads
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closed, 158 bridges closed. we have one video, remarkable, a pick jum truck being swept away, floating down what used to be a road with the driver inside. rescue crews did manage to kick out the back window of that truck and pull the driver to safety. joining us by phone is the storm chaser who shot this really stunning video, brandon sullivan. brandon, thanks for being with us. there were feet of rain falling. you know, 2 feet of rain falling over the weekend. it's coming down and down and down. what was it like to be in the middle of it all? tell me what you saw with this stunning scene. >> yeah i mean, this whole experience has been surreal. i'm so used to chasing tornadoes but accuweather sent me out here to cover this. i've never seen anything like it. the floodwaters so deep. the thing that got me is how many people were going around the barricades, thinking they could drive through some of
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these things. you sit there helpless, watch them getting carried away. >> absolutely. we're looking at the video you took. then you see the moment where this person starts kicking out the back window of this pickup truck to help these folks out. do you know anything more about who this person was, why they were there, how this all happened? >> to be honest, i forgot his name, but he pulled up and said he was going to swim out there. that was actually really horrifying for us to watch. you know, we said we wouldn't recommend it. the fire department was on his way. as he swam out there, he actually got carried downstream. if it wasn't for the tree he was able to grab on to, we would have had to witness, you know, that unfold as well. that was really scary to watch. luckily he grabbed a tree. but then he had to be rescued from the traumatic. >> how fast was the water rising? did people not have -- we were
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talking about the rain in south carolina for days. did they miss the warning somehow? >> yeah, that was one thing that really surprised me. this was very well advertised. there were barricades everywhere. the white truck you see here had 100 yards or more that he -- the water he drove through before he got swept away. so, he went around the bare kasd, had to drive for at least 100 yards, had all the time in the world to decide that this was a bad idea, but he kept going. i just couldn't understand what was -- what the thought process was there. >> thank goodness someone came to help. thank goodness fire and rescue were on their way to help as well. amazing you got these images. real quick, you've covered a lot of storms. you say you are often chasing tornadoes. put it in perspective for folks looking at this video, but you're in the middle of it. what is this water like when you're seeing it everywhere? >> you know, it's so incredibly
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powerful. this flooding scares me more than any tornado ever. water is so powerful. you can't tell what you're getting into. you can't tell how deep it is. but once you're in there, it's so hard to get out, as you see here. i'm just glad there was a good ending here. >> no kidding. >> more powerful than any tornado from a man who's been in the middle of both. thank you, brandon. new details about the breaking news from vermont. an amtrak derailed there. several people are hurt. we'll bring you details after the break. like i sweat money. i want to smell the way champagne tastes. i love champagne. infuse your laundry with... ...up to 12 weeks of luxurious long-lasting scents...
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saluda. and now, following the breaking news just in here at cnn about the train derailment that we are learning more about. amtrak is kon firping on the twitter account that a train has dera derailed in vermont. over to renee marsh who is tracking this in washington, and it is early stage, but what more are you hearing? >> well, i just got off of the phone with amtrak, kate, and we have additional information. we know that the train was traveling from st. albens, vermont, and head ed to washington, d.c. according to the amtrak official, the train reportedly, it struck a rock slide on the tracks is what i am told the according to the official, quote, when it derailed, it reportedly struck a rock slide on the tracks so it seems as if there was something on the tracks there, and rocks, and that caused this derailment. we are getting word that at
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least four people are injured, but to reports of life threatening injury, but as you said, it is very early. we know that the amtrak police and management are on the way to the scene of this crash. we also know that the investigators with the federal railroad edadministration are ao on the way, and i spoke briefly with the ntsb and they were beginning to get information on exactly what happened here, and of course, we are watching and hoping that this is not going to be as disastrous as what we saw in philadelphia when that train derailed. we are not getting, and we don't have any images at this point, but we do know that this happened just about south of the capital there in vermont. and we know that the roadway where this happened is pretty much a main drag there through this community, but again,
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investiga investigators are trying to make ir their way there, and we have a word of at least four injured, but amtrak is telling me a few moments ago that at this point, they don't know if there are any life threatening injuries, but they, too, themselves are working to get themselves to the scene. >> okay. renee m rene marsh, thank you. i want to bring in our transportation expert mary schiavo, and there should not be a lot of twists and turns, but rene is reporting that they hit some type of rocks there to cause the derailment. and that would explain what happened there? >> yes, and you know, there have been disastrous crashes in philadelphia where overspeeding was involved, et cetera, but most of the time when you have a derailment, it is something with the rails are not on straight or
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the obstruction, and so this is a more typical situation, and many things that could have given the train indications, and the conductor indication s that there was something on the track, but we won't know if they have the most up to the minute safety equipment that would have alerted them to this or if the rock slide happened moments before the train arrived. >> or just as the train arrived, too, is an interesting point. but if the rock slide had happened previously, there are some ways for those in the charge of the train to know about this, and what should happen? what if they could avoid any of the rock slides, obviously, what is the way to do it? >> well, there are many new systems, and certainly not on all of the tracks of the united states, and in fact, on very few, but some systems are installed on the track to give the rail op erator indications f the conditions of the tracks, and it is two-way communication systems of the track itself, and
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it is a smart rail if you will, and it is on very few track systems, and this a big subject of the conversation, and after this the deadly derailment in philadelphia a year or so ago, and of course, the rail administration and others have called upon the installation of these more up to the date safety equipment systems on all of the tracks in just a matter of time and expense. they do have those on that particular section of track, and whether it is on the section that this amtrak train was traveling over, we don't e know. and also, amtrak does not own the rails for which it travels, and rails in the united states are owned by many rail lines and the yoowner is responsible for keeping up that track. >> something that we have talked about in past kconversations whn it comes to the train derailments. and mary, thank you very much,
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and as you can see, amtrak is confirming a train derail memen and 98 passengers were on the train, and this is in vermont, and the injuries are not seeming to be life threaten iing. >> yes, let's hope those injuries are remaining minor. and now, more on the rescue efforts of the historic flooding in south carolina. we will bring you the governor's remarks straight ahead. epower, and has motor trends 2015 truck of the year? ram. chevy. what do you think? the ford. here's the answer. oohh! that's the chevy silverado hd, the chevy silverado, and the chevy colorado. chevy, chevy, chevy. it's truck month. now qualified buyers get 0% financing for 72 months on this 2015 chevy silverado four door double cab. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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fun event. we don't want to have to come out to rescue, you and much worse, we don't want to have you add ed ed to the number of fatalities, and so people, please avoid that and watch tv for the pictures. we are looking at 550 roads and bridges that are closed, and what you will see happen is that as the water is shifting down, we will preposition where the roads are closed. the roads are going to be closed from the upstate and from the midlands down to the low country as the water flows.
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and don't be sprurprised if the is a road open now, it is not going to be staying open. and you will see some roads closed and that is something that we are watching carefully as the water flow, and we are working with all of the team members here, and secretary hall. >> of the 550 roads closed, 500 of those are in columbia, and in the columbia area. and dps has responded to 2700 total calls. and 910 were collisions that they the responded to. the biggest challenges that we have faced is following the wave of the a water from the midlands down to the coast, and the road closures trying to monitor thosea and make sure that we have monitored those, and now, we are getting to the area of downed tree limbs, and anything in the way, and we are getting into the assessment, and the recovery mode and a lot of that is assessing the damage to start making good decisions on how we
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can go to get people back into the protected situation, and also back into the recovery situation. water issues -- we have quite a few water issues that we are seeing either people are without water or contaminated water. we want people to be extremely careful as they are going on with the water issue. we have currently have 40,000 people now without water. and i know that they are working hard to get that back up. and we have 26,000 people without power, and that number seems to be an average, and si not that it is getting back up, and it is just that when one goes down, and you know, we get another one up, and it is going back and forth there, and we have 150 troopers out there to help the crews move accordingly. and is s.l.e.d. has deployed additional officers in clarendon and lexington and lee

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