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sub arue pa subaru in the driveway. no fear, insurance tells us as long as the motorist has comprehensive coverage, moose damage will be covered. but when the top moose went to claim his prize after all that work, what did the female do? she vamoosed. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. thank you for being here. i'm ana cabrera. "at this hour with berman and bold uan" starts this hour. new questions about the mother of the oregon shooter. what did she know about her son. what her online postings reveal about their history. a top american commander testifying right now about why the u.s. bombed a hospital, killing doctors and patients. hear why he says they made the decision. donald trump, you've been the republican front-runner for more
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than two months, so when are you dropping out of the race? is this the case of the twilight zone meets 2016 or is there a deeper reason such as a self-proclaimed winner is being asked so much about being a loser. hello, i'm john berman. >> i'm kate bolduan. there are new questions about whether the mother of the mass murder in oregon bears any responsibility for the horrific shooting at umpqua community college. according to "the new york times," his mother talked about putting him in psychiatric care but also talked about and posted online about their shared fascination with guns. >> the mother talked about her son's struggle with asperger's syndrome and his fascination with guns in her blog over the last ten years. one post she writes i keep two full mags in the glock case.
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and the ar and aks all have loaded mags. no one will be dropping by my house uninvited without acknowledgment. >> cnn has confirmed all of this because these postings link back to an e-mail address public records belong to laurel harper, the mother of the gunman. we know she's a registered nurse. she posted some 34,000 answers on on a number of dopz, a number health-related, and a number about guns, identifying her as owning these particular guns. as a matter of fact, atf found 14 firearms, both on the campus and also at the family's home. she talks about her son as having asperger's and she says, quote, he's no idiot, nor is his life worthless. he's very intelligent and working on a career in
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film-making. she also shares this knowledge with a 13-year-old boy suffering from anxiety, a 13-year-old who identifies as wanting to be a doctor, suffering from anxiety. and she encourages this individual saying, look, i have asperger's, she says of herself. i didn't do so bad. wasn't easy but it can be done. then in parenthesis she puts, understatement. she's very open about this. again, she's talking to people in that community. so, she clearly had a dialogue, clearly had a conversation, but she and her son shared a love of guns. and where have we heard that before? sandy hook shooting, which is where the mother and the son bonded over very little else except their shared love of going to the gun range and firing. >> it does raise a lot of questions about a range of issues. want to bring in our legal analyst paul cowen and wendy walsh with us, a human behavioral expert. paul, just because they love guns, right, none of these guns
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were illegal. they were all purchased legally, as far as we know. so, the talk there, in and of itself, not incriminating in any way. but when she starts to talk about her son's condition, saying he has asperger's syndrome. does not reclud you from getting guns but "the new york times" reports he was in a psychiatric hospital for a period of time and medicated. then you start to ask questions about, well, is this someone who should have guns? >> i've looked at the oregon laws on this. people think oregon is a place with liberal philosophy on a lot of issues, but not on gun control. unlike the northeast, people like their guns and hunting is a family tradition, so that's why even a lot of the victims' families kamz out saying, this is not a gun control issue. so i looked at the asperger's claim and would that prevent someone from having a gun in oregon. absolutely not. that's on the autism spectrum.
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it doesn't relate to violence. his mere admission to a psychiatric facility and even medication at some point in his life would not preclude gun possession in oregon. there's only one rule in oregon and that is, if a court has ordered you confined to a mental institution, then your guns -- you can be denied a gun. in the absence of a court-ordered psychiatric stay, you can get a gun in you're a resident of oregon and you're an adult. >> let's also bring in kelly wallace. she handles a lot of the digital conversation and sees a lot of this going on, and a lot of the conversation about the role of family here, kelly. what do you think of this? folks look at these online postings by the shooter's mother, they look at the situation, and the correlation is that -- not the correlation. the similar circumstances that deb points out that we saw in the shooting in newtown, connecticut, at sandy hook
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elementary school. it raises the question, what is the role of the parent? what is the liability of the parent? they're the ones should know, should see these red flags. >> absolutely. you know, kate, we're just seeing this conversation start to develop. as more and more parents hear about the oregon shooter's mother's online conversations, you're likely to see that develop even more, i mean, if you remember after sandy hook with adam lanza, even the parents of some of the victims came forward and blamed adam lanza's mother in the sense they felt she should have done more. more mental health for her child when she saw he was isolated and then the issue of exposure to all those weapons. you're seeing the same parallels here. . a lot of parents will say, what more should parents do, besides, a, making sure their children get the help they need, and, if your child is having psychiatric issues, should that young adult be surrounded by guns?
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that's a big conversation people are starting to have. >> wenty, if you're with us right now f you're a parent, what do you look for? because the simple fascination with guns here wasn't a tip to this mother. it was the opposite. the mother's thought of his fascination with guns was helping him cut on out of his shell, was something with enthusiasm, which for people with asperger's, is something you look for. >> i'm not only a doctor of psychology but also a mother of a child with asperger's. it's not a mental illness. it's just someone who's not neurotypical. my suspicion with this kid is c other anxiety issues, who knows, maybe schizophrenia. not a single diagnosis person and all kinds of diagnoses could be happening with this kid.
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one of the features of asperg asperger's is obsession, with boys it's trains. i have an aspy girl and her obsession is shoes and fashion. don't let me go there. so, i understand a mother's urge to follow her child's interest, but this is an interest that could be potentially dangerous if it was comorbid with other diagnoses. >> every child is different here and how every family deals with any struggle is different. paul, in the case of what happened at sandy hook elementa elementary, there was a law filed by some of the families of the victims following -- filing a lawsuit against the estate of the mother. obviously, the mother there, she was killed by her son. is that something that you could see happening in this
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circumstance? where is the legal liability, if any? >> well, there's always the possibility of the lawsuit. and sometimes there are settlements because the cost of litigation causes it. i think it's an uphill battle here because it would appear the mother didn't violate oregon law with respect to how the guns were handled in the house. listening to wendy, it's readily apparent to me that with asperg asperger's, if your child has a fascination with shoes and -- but guns and bombs -- >> well, we're not -- >> if you have a young adult focused on guns, i think you have to be careful about that. but no lawsuit. >> but he purchased those guns legally. let's be very clear. a number were bought by the mother but a number were bought by him as well. the interesting thing is -- i read through a number of the documents he left behind, postings on one of these
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websites where you share with different people he is so incredibly intelligent, incredibly lieu sid. he talks about the police officer killed down in texas. he says, look, i emp that these with the black lives matter movement but killing a police officer for no reason doesn't do anyone any good. but then he also talks about the virginia shooters and even there he says, you know -- he's confused lchl saying, this is a guy who's completely alone and then he goes and does this and then everybody knows his name. this is not an endorsement of any of these killings, necessarily, but clearly he was thinking through these individual killings. and why, all of a sudden, that moment came where he felt, now's my turn. that's what's so confusing. >> will they ever establish that is obviously the question. paul? >> thanks so much. we do have breaking news we want to get to right now. the community college of philadelphia on lockdown right
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now because of, quote, police activity. there's a shelter in place alert that's been sent out. you're looking at live pictures right now of -- i think it is the community college of philadelphia. the main campus completely locked down. no word on why. we'll give you the updates as we get them. >> we did hear some -- we'll have much more on that, obviously, as we get more. this is just coming into us right now. also coming up for us, we have a lot of news ahead, including donald trump, right. >> no, seriously, donald trump, when are you going to drop out? i'm asking because you're leading in all the polls. the strange fascination with the idea of donald trump quitting the presidential race. plus, was joe biden the one fueling speculation about his run about the white house and about his dying son's wish? new questions now about his plans one week before the first democratic debate right here on cnn. and the families of more than two dozen people waiting for answers after their ship disappears. why did the ship sail into the path of a hurricane?
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the st. louis cardinals had the best record in baseball. so, when are they quitting the playoffs? empire, the highest rated drama on tv, so when are they canceling? donald trump is the republican front-runner for months, so when is he dropping out of the race? >> as you guessed, only one of those things is being discussed right now, and trump is pushing back against the it talk of his demise and predictions he'd be out of the race by the iowa caucuses next year. listen. >> would you get out? the answer is, i'm not -- i'm going all the way and we're going to win, okay? it's a simpler answer and people can't play around with that. i mean, i watch these politicians. you know they're getting out in the next two weeks and they say, oh, i'm never getting out. they're not telling the truth. >> good to know. >> i am not getting out. >> you send marco rubio -- >> here to discuss with us now
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long-time political operative in congress and far beyond. ron, it's great to see you. >> great to see you. >> trump, this is one of the cases where trump is right, right? i mean, whenever do you hear so much talk about the demize myself of a front-runner when he's the front-runner? >> that's right. trump is leading the polls and i don't see him get out any time soon. his lead is not growing. it's plateauing and shrinking in iowa and new hampshire versus other gop candidates. the natural question is, is the trump era going to start shrinking? is his second debate performance going to stay -- is he going to keep the same thing going? you know, his second debate performance was not good. his third debate performance needs to be a lot better. i think people are getting used to donald trump. you know, there was a lot of shock value, you know, and hoopla around him, but right now, people are getting used to it. i think as other gop contenders drop out, as trump says, you know, others are going -- the
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lead is going to shrink and it's going to go to somebody else. that's why he's really worried about marco rubio. he sent a case of bottled water to his office. so, you know, i think that those are all things to consider. >> a shrinking lead is different than asking the guy who leads in every poll since august, when are you dropping out? i have a couple of theories. number one, people don't take him seriously. they say donald trump is not a real candidate, even though he's been ahead. the other interesting thing is, this guy does so many interviews. he's on tv 12 times a day. you can call him -- a school newspaper, you know, anywhere, nevada can call him and get a quote from donald trump. so, i think people are running out of things to ask him so they moved on to, when are you going to drop out? >> that's exactly right. donald trump is the only gop candidate i know can call on every single show. people, i think, are getting a little tired of it. i consider him the kardashian of this race. there's a whole lot of, look at
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me, look at how i'm the best, but very little substance behind him. as we go on and get deeper into this contest and the debates condition, i think his lead does shrink. however, it is a little premature to ask, when are you going to drop out, when you're leading the polls. i mean, that is a little bit of a silly question, sure. >> but those silly questions, there's a lot of those, that's for sure. let's bring in cnn political commentator. another thing -- we've been talking about a lot this morning is joe biden. the guessing game or just the waiting game of will he or won't he jump in the race? now this fascinating report in politico that it was joe biden himself that helped fuel this speculation because he spoke directly, according to politico, with "the new york times" columnist who kicked this all off. what do you make of that? >> that's right. credit where it's due. "wall street journal" had a remarkably similar story a month
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before "the times." so it wasn't top-secret information. everybody who knows biden, it would logical for him thinking a way and a rationale and an opportunity to run for president. it's what he spent most of his adult life trying to do. >> wrestling with and orchestrating the press coverage and how it's discussed are two different things, though. >> i suppose. maybe i covered this for a little too long, but -- >> nothing surprises you? >> look. when he first talked about his son and his son's dying wish to have him run for president, it struck me as an excuse to either run or not run. you know, i just kind of considered it a wash. that what really mattered would be what joe biden wanted to do. he had this excuse again, he could use it to say, i'm too emotionally shattered to say, i can't win or i'm going to win one for the gipper. this is my dying son's last wish. >> what do you think about that, his son's dying wish, what's the
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conversation you're hearing amongst republicans. do they see that as a political calculation or something that, let's be honest, joe biden is truly struggling with? >> people believe joe biden is extremely emotional over his son's death and this decision looming over him. he's the one who leaked to the first story. he was the source. so, i think there is some political calculation that immediately happened after -- after his son's death. at the same time, there's no question that there was a lot of emotions running here. >> i don't think anyone questions the genuine grief he feels for his family and his son. the question is, how much is he toying with right now. how much is he playing with the press to float that trial balloon higher every day. great to have you with us. really appreciate it. you do not want to forget this fact.
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the first democratic presidential debate is one week from today, tuesday, october 13th. only on cnn. five will enter, one will leave. we'll be there live. kate bolduan, john berman, starting on monday. stick around for that. big-time political news. also ahead for us, a demand for answers. a top u.s. general facing tough questions about a deadly air strike on a hospital. ahead, why some are calling that a war crime. plus, we do have breaking news. we now hear there are reports of an armed man on the campus of the community college of philadelphia. there had been warnings in that city. that is why there is even more concern. shelter in place. details next. we stop arthritis pain, so you don't have to stop. tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain has two layers of pain relief. the first is fast. the second lasts all day. we give you your day back. what you do with it is up to you. tylenol®.
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community college of philadelphia has been on lockdown, we're learning, because of the word from authorities there was because of police activity. let's bring in justice correspondent evan perez with much more on this. what more are you hearing about this situation? >> well, this really gives you an impression of how on edge everybody is including law enforcements. there was a report of someone with a gun threatening a student on the community college. the police chief in philadelphia, charles ramsey, just said about 9:30, this is when this happened, someone with -- armed with a gun threatened a student and this is what caused all of this. they don't believe this is related to any threats. if you recall, over the weekend, there was talk of someone would carry out an attack on a pennsylvania university. that didn't happen. they belief this appears to be a beef between two people. but it shows you how on edge everybody is. police respond, the atf is there.
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they're trying to figure out if the gunman is still on the campus or a report that was false, frankly. right now they're still doing a search, but at this point it doesn't appear to be related to the threats made yesterday and it certainly shows you in light of what happened in oregon, how these are being treated. >> absolutely. >> thank you very much. the search is under way to figure out what happened here but they seem to think it's under control at this point. thank you so much. also for us now, the top u.s. commander in afghanistan says it was the united states that decided to go ahead with an air strike that hit a hospital in kunduz in afghanistan. general john campbell is testifying before the senate armed services committee. campbell said it was afghan forces who called in air forces because they were taking fire from enemy positions but he said the call to go forward was strictly a u.s. decision. listen here. >> to be clear, the decision to
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provide aerial fliers was a u.s. decision made within the u.s. chain of command. a hospital was mistakenly struck. we would never intention allege target a protected medical facility. i must allow the investigation to take its course and, therefore, i'm not at liberty to discuss further specifics at this time. however, i assure you the investigation will be thorough, objective and transparent. >> the strike killed 22 civil yapps, including patients and staff working for doctors without borders. nato launched an investigation into this incident. let's find out more. joining us now, cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr and retired lieutenant colonel francona. barbara, it seems like we're filling in the blanks and some details different than what we first heard. >> very much so. general campbell addressed that with the news media yesterday, moving on rapidly from the
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initial statement. the bottom line is they say the afghan forces called in, said they were under fire from the taliban and the u.s. made the decision to go ahead and send in an ac-130 gun ship to attack this area, that it was a u.s. decision. but, and i think this is a huge but, one of the most interesting things general campbell said this morning is he has now order retraining for u.s. forces on the rules of engagement, when they can go in, what the rules are that allow them to engage in deadly force. this may be a big hint of where this is headed. if general campbell feels he needs to retrain his forces on rules of engagement, is this a suggestion they violated or made a mistake on the rules of engagement going after this area? did they know it was a hospital? did they believe the taliban were there? because the taliban were still there, they believed they could
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strike? that we don't know. general campbell made it very clear, he's not satisfied his troops are up to date on the rules of engagement. he's indicating he hopes to have some initial results on this investigation in the next 30 days and, of course, without question, doctors without borders still absolutely furious, absolutely heartbroken about all of this, saying for the tous say it was a mistake, just isn't good enough. >> absolutely. barbara, as you raised a couple of really good questions in conversations rounding this as this was all unfolding. colonel, i want to raise them to you. the general says it was clearly daisht hospital was mistakenly struck. but how was it that no one could have known this was a hospital. how could the mistake happen? can you take us there? >> that's a really good question. i can only speculate. this is happening in the middle of the night. probably wearing night vision goggles. very difficult to see.
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the crew was ordered to respond to an afghan unit in trouble. they're taking the coordinates from the afghan unit and they respond. for whatever reason, the hospital ended up being struck. were they trying to hit something near the hospital and they got the coordinates wrong? we don't know what happened. that will come out. i want to reiterate barbara's point and i picked up on it as soon as the general said it as well. he's ordered the retraining on the rules of engagement. he's not happy with something that happened that thit. he explained a little further because he was talking about the air support piece was one of the biggest problems they're having with afghan forces. so, as this goes forward, we'll find out just where they are in that. i suspect that this is going to be a coordination problem between the afghans and americans and led to this tragic accident. >> a tragic outcome.
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as barbara said, doctors without borders are furious. they want answers. i think a lot of folks do, too, and how this could happen because of the great work the hospital was doing in that part of afghanistan. he's still testifying, the general right now. we'll, watching that closely. barbara, thank you. colonel, thank you as well. things will get worse before they get better. that is what the mayor of columbia, south carolina, is saying about this historic flooding that has just rocked that state. we're going to talk to him next. new details about the missing cargo ship carrying so many americans near the bahamas. the mechanical problems we're learning it faced during hurricane joaquin and why the ship is now so hard to find.
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this morning dams fails in south carolina and people forced to evacuate their homes. at least nine dams have now broken because of the historic flooding there. hundreds of roads washed out. 11 people killed so far. >> the mayor of columbia, south carolina, says his city isn't even close to being out of the woods yet after a week of record rainfall, the water has nowhere to go but downhill towards south carolina's coast. that mayor, steve benjamin, is joining us now. mayor, thank you for joining us and taking the time. i mean, you can just see the problem, it's sitting right there behind you. it sounds like this could be a slow-moving disaster for weeks. what are you telling residents? >> we're telling our folks as we say here in the south, you have a long road to hoe. it's going to take a while. we're trying to make sure we manage expectations, keep people
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focused on the priorities. number one priority is preservation of life. after that we want to make sure our people have shelter, have food, have water. and we're assessing all of our infrastructure needs. we have a long way to go. we prosecute making great progress. when we started this disaster, we had 130,000 people without water. that number is down to about 42,000. we're still engaged in significant search and rescue, almost 2,000 homes. 350 people rescued from their homes. we're still counting. fatalities. missing folks. it's tough out here. it's tough out here. i'm very encouraged by the way our people have come together. how everyone, regardless of what side of aisle or what part of town or midlands you live in, people are coming together and we're seeing the very best of south carolina, the very best of america right now.
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>> what's the status of dams in your region right now? what's the area of your greatest concern there? >> sure. i think so far we've had close to a dozen dams give way. they're all across the entire region. our greatest concern is, obviously, let's make sure we're doing everything we possibly can to keep people safe. public safety, making sure -- we've had a cuff few the last couple nights. we'll reassess it and whether or not we'll have a curfew. protecting people, sometimes protecting people from themselves is number one. infrastructure needs, obviously, making sure our roads are safe is a big issue and making sure people have clean, potable water. >> we have crews on the ground, reporting on all of this flooding. folks coming up to them saying, how did you get in? how are you getting in and out? a lot of folks are simply just stuck. that gets to the roads issue. what are you telling folks about
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how they can get about safely? >> sure. right now it's road by road. we had well over 500 roads shut down. have you to take some very different routes to get a short distance. we're asking people to be careful. do not assume that puddle of water is just a few inches deep. you don't know what's down there. most folks are doing a good job heeding that advice. right now it's better to be safe than sorry. we're encouraged by the progress we're making. we're more proud of the fact that everyone's doing it together. >> road by road. that's a tough road for a lot of folks ahead. no kidding. mayor benjamin, thanks for your time. we appreciate it. ahead for us, where is the cargo ship carrying 28 american workers near the bahamas? new information in about the ship and its crew, what its crew was up against as it sat in the path of hurricane joaquin and what that now means for that missing crew. the most populous state in
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they believe that it sank during hurricane joaquin. they are concentrating right now all of their efforts on trying to find the 28 americans and five polish nationals who were on board that cargo ship. search teams have found one body so far, though. they have not found any survivors. >> joining us to discuss the search is expedition specialist christine. a lot is interesting about this search. one of the things that jumped out at me is that they did spot that body in a survival suit, which sort of indicates people on board this vessel, they knew that they were in trouble. they were preparing for the situation. what kind of a hope does that provide if they try to make those last-second preparations that there could still be people out there? >> well, we're five days into it and these survival suits would allow them to survive in these temperatures which were about 82, 84 degrees at the surface for five to seven days, i would say. and so there still is hope
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they're looking for the second life raft, which may have survivors. i don't know what condition you can expect. they'd be dehydrated. they've been through an awful lot of battering out at sea for all these days but there still is hope. >> take us out on the water. the coast guard painted a pretty grim picture of what that ship was up against and what that crew would be up against as they sat in the path as the hurricane rolled through. it has hampered early on search efforts, obviously, but this crew was in this, trying to get thursday survival suits on, trying to get into these life rafts. what are they up against? >> you can only imagine. the ship has been battered by 40-foot waves for hours. they have no steering and you can't even hear yourself. you've got howling winds, hurricane-force conditions. they were at the top of their game. this was an excellent crew. i'm sure they were in survival
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mode so it was save yourself. where everybody would have been on the ship, i don't know. i don't know if at that point they abandoned their station and they were looking for a way to get off, which again is a difficult and horrendous situation to have to leave this ship to get onto a life raft in waters that are just pounding and battering them. >> at this point we talked to you so much after mh-370, which was a vast area of ocean far away from land anywhere. this is different. you're talking about not far from the bahamas here. what are the specific challenges right now to this search where they are? >> well, they still are, it doesn't look that far on a map, but they really are far from land. they're in the middle of the atlantic ocean which the water churns up quickly with this hurricane joaquin. even though the water conditions are warm, that's not a great thing for dehydration and surviving. you have marine life. it's 15,000 feet in these areas. it's not impossible to put machines -- we do know from
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mh-370 we can go and look at the bottom of the ocean floor. it's a question of, you know, what will come next if we do, in fact, find survivors or additional cargo wreckage. it's still a few days out, i think, and hopefully we'll find survivors. >> they're still looking. thanks for being with us. >> families understandably holding out hope as that search continues. coming up for us, a groundbreaking move. the biggest state in the united states will soon allow terminally ill patients the right to die, but one woman may not get that chance to make that decision. she's fought for this, though. she's going to join us next to discuss. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here. it's not just big data, its bigger data. we're beta testing the new wearable interface... ♪ xerox believes finding the right solution shouldn't be so much work. by engineering a better way for people,
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san fwhile this parking loting lies still. life, proposition d and mission rock will create a new neighborhood right here with 40% affordable housing, 8 acres of parks and open space, all connected to public transit, and generate $25 million a year in revenue for san francisco. vote yes on d to turn this into this.
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♪ new this morning, california just became the largest state by far to allow terminally ill patients to end their lives.
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>> that's a huge question. obviously, a difficult one. the law stipulates two doctors must approve the use of the life-ending drugs, two witnesses must be present when the drugs are taken and the patients must be capable of taking the drugs themselves and mentally capable of making medical decisions. now, vermont, oregon, montana and washington state have similar end of life laws in place now. the movement has really gained support in california after one terminally ill patient, brittany maynard, moved from california to oregon to end her life. she was very public with her struggle before ending her life last september. take a look. >> i can't even tell you the amount of relief that it provides me to know that i don't have to die the way that it's been described to me that my brain tumor would take me on its own. >> christie o'donnell is joining
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us now. she is a right-to-die advocate, diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer she's been battling for some time now. thank you for coming on. i think the most important question is, after the fight that you have had, not only with cancer, but then with the law, what was your reaction when you found out that this was happening in california? >> it's a very bitter sweet moment. i was first very proud of our governor to have the courage to not only look into his heart and make a decision but to accurately represent what over 75% of californians want. and people like me need. so, i was very happy about that. >> you know, there are so many parts of this debate that i think people don't fully understand or appreciate. you know, more than 30% of the people in the states where it is allowed who get the drugs never take them. it's about the choice itself.
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christy, i heard you say, people need to understand, you don't want to die. more than anything, you want to live. >> that's absolutely correct. i didn't wait till i was diagnosed with a terminal illness to start living. i've had a tremendous love you won't find a mom who doesn't dream of find iing her grandchildren, and so i don't want to die, but my disease is going to kill me. that is a medical certainty, so at this point, i just don't want to die painfully or in a protracted manner in front of my daughter where she is forced to
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sit vigil by my days or weeks before i passed away. >> i do want to -- and there is an important part of this that folks want to understand that this is going into effect, and this right might not go into effect for you. how do you make sense of that? because if it does not go into place and time for you, and is it just a cruel irony of the fight that you have been waging? and cool way to articulate it, and when we decided to speak out in front of the legislature in california and to carry out what britney menard and her family started, we knew that we would not be able to utilize the law, but we did it so that hopefully my daughter bailey and i will be the one of the last families to needlessly suffer in california.
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and it is clearly my hope to be alive in january and it is no like i have not given up on a medical miracle and in addition to having the legislation pass, i have brought a lawsuit against the california attorney general and the district attorney the's office to ask you what you have asked me, if the law is going to pass, please let me and my family be able to utilize so that we don't suffer personally. >> talk to me about your daughter, because it is wone thing to make a decision about this for yourself, but talk to me about your daughter, and how she feels about it. >> my daughter is my heart and i have spent 21 years putting her first, and she is the one who actu actually first brought up her knowledge of the law in oregon when i became terminally ill. she has been one of those kids that is very aware and not just of what is happening in her little world, but the more
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global perspective as well. she was willing to move to another state, and i'm the one as a mom who vetoed that idea, because it would be extremely cruel of me to take the her out of her entire support system to do what? put her in a house or apartment just for her to watch me die day by day. nobody should have to do that. >> well, christy, thank you for your strength and courage for joining us. thank you all for joining us this hour. >> legal view with ashleigh banfield starts right now. hello, everyone, i'm ashleigh banfield and we begin on "legal view" with astounding details of the oregon shooter from the person close toast him perhap, his own mother. online postings written several years ago but just


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