tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN October 6, 2015 4:00pm-5:01pm PDT
thanks very, very much. remember, you can follow us on twitter. join us in "the situation room" tomorrow. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front," the top u.s. general says the u.s. needs a new plan to stay and fight in afghanistan saying al qaeda and isis are on the rise. the oregon shooter and his mother bonded over a love of guns. should she be held responsible for his massacre? new details what happened to the missing cargo ship. why did it sail into the path of a massive hurricane? we have the answers tonight. let's go "out front." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "out front" a dire warning about isis. the top u.s. commander in afghanistan says isis and al qaeda are growing stronger and
the u.s. needs a new plan. general john campbell says u.s. troops need to stay and fight. in testimony today, general campbell warning there are as many as 3,000 isis fighters in afghanistan and that al qaeda forces are surging as the u.s. secretary of defense says he deeply regrets what he says was a mistaken attack on an afghan hospital. doctors without borders, which runs that hospital saying there was no mistake. the u.s. forces knew exactly what they were doing, killing innocent civilians. barbara starr is out front. did the u.s. know it was bombing a hospital? >> reporter: clearly a mistake, but no excuse. the u.s. does not bomb hospitals, mosques and schools. the question now is how could this have happened? in the aftermath of the attack on the doctors without borders hospital, a stunning military order from the top u.s. commander. >> i've directed the entire force to undergo indepth training in order to review all
our operational authorities in rules of engagement. >> reporter: that order and acknowledgement that something went wrong. and the secretary of defense minced no words saying in a statement, when we make mistakes, we own up to them. that's exactly what we are doing now rules of engagement spell out when and how the u.s. military can conduct air strikes like the ac-130 gun ship that hit the hospital. doctors without borders says the u.s. knew it was a hospital. they were under attack for 30 minutes. he could not have been a mistake. >> until we are told otherwise and see an independent investigation, we presume this was a war crime. >> reporter: did this violate u.s. military rules? >> even though the afghan's requested support it has to go through a rigorous u.s. procedure to enable fires to go on the ground. >> there was no american air controllers on the ground. >> we had a special operations
unit in close vicinity talking to the aircraft who delivered those fires. >> reporter: it comes as the u.s. military is reconsidering troop levels as it seeks to fulfill president obama's desire to draw down almost all troops by the end of 2016. general campbell said with the overall security situation in afghanistan still so uncertain, he needs to revise his recommendations about reducing troop levels. >> we have to provide our senior leadership options different with the current plan we are going with. >> reporter: a key concern, al qaeda regaining a foot hold and isis growing with some taliban changing sides to take advantage of growing isis capabilities. isis in afghanistan growing stronger, faster than the u.s. anticipated. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. a pretty damning report.
nic robertson is in kabul for us tonight. the top u.s. commander says isis spreading throughout the country where you are tonight. how powerful is isis? >> reporter: in the past couple of days they've just executed 20 people, 11 of them were soldiers for the afghan national army. one they accused of being a spy. the other eight were taliban fighters. yes, isis having infighting battle with the taliban here. this is in the east of the country. they are getting a bigger footprint in parts of the east of the country, particularly close to pakistan. it is a growing concern here. >> nic, you talk about isis and al qaeda, what about al qaeda? president obama has said al qaeda is on the run again and again. now his top commander is saying the opposite. >> multiple times. pretty much if you go back a decade or so, we were being told al qaeda had been run out of
afghanistan, they weren't coming back they had been defeated. this is the core of afghanistan, the core of al qaeda, rather, and they were on the back foot out of the country. now we hear them as being a threat. one of the reasons fighters are coming over from pakistan where they've been hiding out in pakistan, the pakistan army is clearing out some of the areas with militants. you have some of the groups in pakistan splitting up, becoming more radical. some of them coming over and joining isis. these threats, part are coming over from the border. part are beginning to exist here because they've got more space to exist because the afghan government without the support of all the u.s. forces here on the ground have seated territory these groups are taking advantage of to grow. >> nic robertson, thank you very much in kabul tonight. >> former cia operative bob bay baier. bob, you have not been this
alarmed since you entered the cia decades ago. you warn we are about to have a conflict, a war like we've never seen. >> absolutely. you look at syria with russian so-called volunteers coming in. the first time there's been a russian invasion of the middle east, if you like. they are siding with the iranians, with bashir assad. these division are getting deeper and more violent. saudi arabia will react to the russian moves by supporting groups like the islamic state, if indirectly. i've got afghanistan, islamic state rising there, the taliban, they attacked kunduz today. they are not stopping. you have iraq, there is a movement to expel us among the shiia militias. i don't know it's going to go that far. i only see things getting worse and you have yemen getting worse. >> you talk about a conflict like we've never seen. the war on terror has been going
on 15 years. thousands of americans died. countries in greater turmoil than before. more terrorists than there were before. you're not surprised isis is growing so powerful. >> i'm not really. bee said for a long time this is going to be a long war, possibly a generational war. nobody ever expected that soon after 9/11 that this strain of radicalism and terrorism was going to be wiped off the battlefield any time said. we said inside afghanistan and iraq that we ought to be prepared for years and years of struggle. walking away from it is not an option. >> not an option, but staying in has proven to be a tough option. bob, general campbell says keeping american troops in afghanistan is necessary. he is changing the view. this president says he is going to take the troops out. campbell says he needs troops to stay. in you think to fight this war which you view as a regional
war, you think it could take a million or more americans? >> i do. i think we have to bring back the draft to occupy afghanistan and completely suppress islamic fundamentalism would take a lot of troops. this wasn't a military defeat in afghanistan in any sense. it was a political defeat because these people have defaulted to islam. the same goes for syria, iraq and yemen. we are having al qaeda in yemen. can the united states sustain a presence in the middle east to this degree? i do think it would take a million troops. i don't think the american people would stand for it. how long would it go on? it would be several generations to try and do anything about this part of the world. >> general kimmitt, a million troops? >> i agree with bob's analysis, but i don't agree with his conclusions. i think our best option is to build a partnership capacity in the region. let these countries fight for themselves. it will take american troops
providing counterterrorism support, training support and advisors on the ground, but i think the americans would not stand for a million troops on the ground and i don't think it will take that much. it may take a million local forces doing the fighting. we need to support them, but i don't think it will take a million americans to help with that. >> final word, bob. >> the problem is the locals. i don't trust them. i don't trust the afghans. the afghans caused that raid in kunduz against the hospital, bad information. we have no allies in iraq we can trust. the shiia government we can't. same way with yemen and syria. we train four or five people, locals? they will be wiped off the field. we have no allies in that part of the world we can trust. >> thanks very much to both of you, a very sobering conversation. learning new details about the oregon shooter including that much like the sandy hook shooter, he and his mother knew a whole lot about guns. >> plus marco rubio with one of
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breaking news into the investigation in the massacre at the community college in oregon. they are aware of social media posts made aware by the gunman's mother. sarah, what are you learning tonight? >> reporter: we spoke with police here and they told us that they were, indeed, aware of what the shooter's mother had been posting. that they are looking into her as they would anyone who was close to someone who did something like this.
they also are aware of what the son was posting. hours after the umpqua community college massacre, the mother of the 26-year-old gunman broke down. >> she was bawling. she was really upset. i can't blame her. i mean, this is insane. >> reporter: now there are new details about what she knew about her son's mental health and access to guns before he went on a rampage killing eight students and a teacher. a sery series of online posts reveal he had a developmental disorder on the autism spector and there were plenty of guns in the house. she boasted about her arsenal of weapons about state gun laws saying i keep two full mags in my block case. all have loaded mags. no one will drop by my house
uninvited without acknowledgement. police found eight guns at the home she shared with her son and six at the crime scene. her son was familiar with gun laws. someone asked about who police would charge if ten people shot simultaneously at one person killing that person? she posted at the very least they would be charged with accessory to murder. at the worst, they would be charged with felony murder citing, my son who has much knowledge in this field. she and her son shared more than a knowledge of guns and gun laws. they also shared a developmental disorder,es disorder, asberger's. he is no basketballing it yod norris his life worthless. my 18 years worth of experience and knowledge is paying off. i'm a nurse. in another post she says in part, i of a asperger's and i didn't do so bad, but it can be
done. this case bears striking similarities to sandy hook gunman adam lanza who killed 27 people before taking his own life. both live with their mother, had a deep interest in guns and were believed to have asperger's. cnn's multiple attempts to reach laurel harper have been unsuccessful. the shooter's father told cnn he was surprised his son had access to guns. >> i had no idea he had any guns whatsoever. i'm a great believer you don't buy guns, don't buy guns, you don't buy guns. >> reporter: to be clear, his father lives in california. his mother lives here in oregon. the two of them may not have been speaking about the son. we want to mention, asperger's syndrome, there is no link between having asperger's and
violence, but there are a lot of details surprising people. >> thank you very much. let my start with you, paul. you heard the breaking news. police are looking at these online postings from the mother. not only looking at her but other things. does that surprise you? does that mean they are looking into whether she bears responsibility? >> i think they are certainly examining that. i doubt very much they'll develop a criminal case against her. you would have to show she had some sort of conscious awareness that her son was going to engage in this specific act. a civil case is a different matter. she might be accused of knowing he suffered from mental illness and allowing him access to so many weapons. there were 14 five arms found in the apartment that she resided in with him a large amount of the time. that might create a civil theory for a lawsuit against the mother. >> casey, on this point about what she knew. she boasted about her guns on
line, took her son to shooting ranges. seems they shared a love of guns. when he was younger, she put him in a psychiatric institution, put him in a hospital because he was aggressive. >> and not taking his meds. >> a child she put into a hospital because he was aggressive, then encourages a love of guns. how does that happen? >> where have we seen this before? that's the most shocking thing about this. the details of this case are almost a carbon copy parallel to that of the lanza case. >> that's the sandy hook shooting. >> nancy lanza paid with her life. this mother, an lpn, a nurse, someone who prides herself being an expert ones asperger's didn' learn from that case. paul is correct. there is probably no criminal liability. civilly was it foreseeable?
the key is common sense. if you have a mentally ill or emotionally disturbed child in your house, you don't also have 14 guns. there is a level of denial here, parental blinders on. the only forgiving thing is if she had asperger's, too, her baseline for normal was off keel. >> paul, do you think she watched the coverage of the sandy hook massacre, saw that mother, they had guns in the house? the mother and son went to the shooting ranges together. that's what they did. she saw those things and didn't see herself? >> how could she not have watched it? people who have to deal with problems with asperger's say this is being unfair. asperger's doesn't cause violence. people can have normal lives. one thing about asperger's, you have obsessive conduct. if you are going to have an obsession about something, please don't let it be guns or
bombs or fire. redirect the obsession someplace else. here she really fed the obsession by telling him it was a great thing he played with guns. >> there are a lot of people hear this are angry if there was one person -- he lived with his mother -- if there was one person who is responsible for his act, that could have stopped this it was her. it was her. >> absolutely his mother. where is her voice now? in every other case, if you think back even dylann roof's family, those parents obviously bereft at the loss of their child and arrest of their child put out statements expressing shock, disbelief and sympathy for the victims. we are on day five and six and have not heard from laurel harper. you have to ask, is that denial? is she still in shock? where is her sympathy for the victims? i'm afraid she still has parental blinders on and doesn't
think her son should bear responsibility. >> the one thing to tune in on this, given the political unlikeliness we are going to see major changes in gun control legislation in the united states, it's a real uphill battle, the only way to protect against this if family members see somebody, see a child, see a nephew, a husband or wife who has access to a gun and shouldn't. they've got to act to protect society. otherwise these tragedies will continue. >> you can't get mental illness out of your loved one overnight and you can't change the gun laws overnight, but you can get the guns out of your house if you have a mentally ill person there. everyone can do that today. stop the denial. >> thanks very much to both of you as we await to learn much more about the shooter's mother and her silence. "out front" next, marco rubio and jeb bush. donald trump says they literally hate each other. is it true? >> joe biden slamming a report using his son's death for political gain. americans. we're living longer than ever.
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iowa. this is jeb bush is going to take that stage momentarily. this as his former protege marco rube ohio wrapped up a campaign after fiercely defending his record by attacks from jeb bush and donald trump. >> republican marco rubio missed many senate votes and spends more and more time on the presidential campaign trail. >> mr. rubio. >> reporter: a point the florida senator says comes with the territory. >> everyone that's run for president in the past faced this. there are times you are not going to be there. >> reporter: now rubio is getting called out on his job attendance by jeb bush. >> absentee members might not pass the house or senate. at least it would get them there for a vote. >> reporter: a far cry from years past when bush and and rubio heaped praise on each
other. >> the most principled leader i know, marco rubio. >> many of us grew request up politically in the era of jeb bush when you learned the purpose of public service was to make a difference. >> reporter: now the front-runner is openly mocking their relationship. >> they hate each other. trust me, i know. they hate so much. they hate more than anybody in this room hates their neighbor. any. but it's political [ bleep ], you understand? it's true. >> reporter: even as both candidates maintain they are friends, compliments are just as likely to be replaced by zingers. rubio dismissing political dynasties like the one bush hails from. >> we cannot promote the next one in line or the most familiar name. >> reporter: bush comparing rubio's level of experience to president obama's. >> we had a president who came in and said the same kind of thing, new and improved, hope
and change. and he didn't have the leadership skills to fix things. >> reporter: the gloves were bound to come off in a contest like this, especially because jeb bush and marco rubio as republican establishment candidates are competing for some of the same political space in the polls and primaries. >> joe johns, thank you very much. bill kristol and ana navarro, a jeb bush supporter, friend of marco rubio. >> means i have multiple personality disorder. >> bill, you heard marco rubio fiercely defending his voting record or lack thereof. do you buy it? >> yeah. he's running for president of the united states. he hasn't missed any votes that would have made a difference in getting closure or defeating legislature. that issue barack obama and hillary clinton missed a lot of votes in 2007 when they were senators running for president. i don't think it matters. >> bernie sanders is running for
president and doing better than hillary clinton in the polls. he only missed nine votes this year. his ent tenure he missed as man marco rubio. >> marco can miss all these votes because unlike bernie sanders and the other senators that are running for president this year, he doesn't have a plan b which is staying in the senate. he's done with the senate. his only challenge will be, frankly, he's got constituents in florida that at some point start paying attention might and will be bothered by this and will vote in what's going to be a very tightly-fought primary come march. >> that is important. i think this campaign is getting obsessed with you've got to spend three days in nevada. they lose the fact could you make news and get media coverage if you're on the floor of the senate addressing issues. as a tactical matter, it might
be a mistake. he's not running for re-election. give him credit for putting it on the line. he is entitled to say i'm running for president. >> you are not a florida voter. you didn't vote for him 4 1/2 years ago and support him like i did. >> fair enough. >> folks from florida expect their senator to be there and be strong. i will tell you -- >> would you like to think you vote for someone who wants the job. not the neck job. isn't that the criticism barack obama gets? >> bush's criticism of barack obama is revealing and silly. the problem with barack obama is not that he was inexperienced, doesn't have leadership skills. that is a wonderful bush line. the problem with barack obama from a republican point of view, he is a liberal. he's been an effective president. he is a determined guy. he shaped policy the way he wanted to do it. i would be happy if marco rubio was as effective in a conservative direction as barack obama. it's not he doesn't have
leadership skills. >> leadership skills are important, crisis management skills are important. one of the reasons i chose to support jeb is because i lived in florida for the 14-month period when he had to face eight named storms and hurricanes. when you saw that jeb bush with his sleeves rolled up behind the podium manning emergency management services, you felt there was an adult in charge and your government was doing everything it could to keep you safe. that's good night i want in the situation room. >> and that guy is saying, going after marco rubio now, saying rubio not ready to lead as president. they say they're friends. i thought the donald trump comment was funny when he said that's bull, they hate each other. it's very different. here is what bush said about rubio back in the last election. he said he should be vice president. take a listen. >> he has enough preparation to be one heart beat away from the president? >> i believe so. he has more experience than
barack obama had when he ran. more practical experience and got the intellectual acumen. it's hard to describe the pride i feel from his incredible success. >> that feels from the heart. how could he say he's not ready? >> that was then, this is now. >> jeb will feel pride when marco accepts the nomination. in cleveland in july. >> i know these two guys personally. i do believe they like each other. they have a long history. this is different. this is a difficult, awkward situation. it's awkward for people like me. there are a lot of us in florida who are friends with the two of them because they are friends. they are mentor and mentee, but competing with each other. i hate this. i hate it. i complained to marco about it
at times. i complained to jeb with it. i come to the acceptance it is part of the process. we are just getting started. >> it's light, honestly so far. >> you don't think donald trump is right when he says the truth is they hate each other? >> he doesn't know marco rubio or jeb bush from adam. >> joe biden and hillary clinton will be tougher on each other than jeb and marco are being. >> let's talk about donald trump. rubio is rising in the polls that. put heat on donald trump who dropped in the polls. he told me rubio is a light weight. he tweeted out he is a kid. he is going after marco rubio and sent a case to marco rubio to mock he is a sweater. does rubio have a better chance beating trump than bush? >> i don't know. it's too early to tell. i do think that this is part of
donald trump's persona and schtick he's got to continue feeding. he has got to continue creating headlines, causing controversy we talk about. this is one of the ways of doing it and trolling people, including his opponents. it's a testament to marco's rise in the polls. donald trump doesn't bother with asterisks. >> does jeb bush stay in this till the end? >> hell, yes. >> he stays for quite a while. if you're the bush campaign, you're worried. rubio is ahead of bush in the polls. >> jeb bush has the money. >> and they are putting money on the air, super pac ads on the air if they don't push bush's numbers, i think they'll worry. he's a fighter. at the end of the day we have actual votes, caucus february 1st in iowa. let's see what happens there. we cannot underestimate how shocking bush is doing so poorly. >> i saw jeb bush sunday.
i can tell you that there is a lot of patience and fight in that man. you can tell when a candidate is deflated. the jeb bush i saw sunday is anything but deflated. he is going to stay on this he's got conviction, money and structure and a plan. >> all right. thanks very much to both of you. "out front" next, joe biden. firing back. >> run, joe, run. >> he says this is an offensive report. we have a story. >> outrage over the cargo ship lost with 28 americans onboard. why the ship stayed on its deadly force into a category 4 hurricane. moderate to severe crohn's disease is tough, but i've managed. except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief.
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incredibly harsh report. this conversation between biden and his son, would that be enough to get biden to run? >> it's a great question. the conversation between the vice president and his son would be the most personal of moments. we know how close this vice president was to bo biden and his brother hunter biden want the vice president to run. they think he should be serving in the white house. it is only one part of the equation though, i'm told. friends and allies of the vice president said this is one piece of the picture. you can't run on the sympathy vote. you can't run on something like this directly and only on this. it is one piece of the puzzle. it is not enough to make a candidacy out of that just entirely. >> especially now i've got allegations like this reporting. some people say if joe biden wanted to run, we would know, this isn't something you hem and
haw about. what would be the strategy if he knew he wanted to run but was purposefully waiting this long, missing the first debate. what would be the strategy? >> the strategy is in part, i'm told, seeing how this race develops. if this race was, if hillary clinton was the far and away front-runner, i don't think we would be having this conversation. in fact, there is an opening. we see that in our polls, we see that in other polls. voters we talk to in iowa today say more competition would be better this could strengthen her candidacy. the vice president we have to take him at his word that he is working through this. this has been a struggle. he's waiting to see if his family is ready for this. it doesn't fit neatly into the box we saw often pack things in strategically in washington. no question about that. i do believe that he is waiting for all these things to come together. we'll find out in the next week or so if his family has signed off on this. >> we shall see. everyone will be watching. it will be the elephant in the room, although i guess that's
not the animal to use for the democratic debate. >> the donkey in the room. >> i think joe biden would laugh about that. "out front" now, dan phifer. you know thnoknow this vice pre incredibly well. what about this story that he leaked his son's dying wish for political gain? >> when i read that report, that sounded nothing like the joe biden i've known for a long time. he is the least calculating politician i've been around. he is incredibly authentic. he campaigns by gut. this idea he is some machiavellian guy is not how joe biden operates. >> you don't buy it. >> nope. >> the democratic debate is next week. it's already october. some say it is too late forred by ebb to get in and run
aggressively, credibly with all the ground troops he would need and all the states. just say, hillary clinton has a bad debate. she has to testify on benghazi. is he waiting to see how those two things go to make his final choice? >> i don't know he is waiting how those two things go. in the best of circumstances, this is a hard decision for anyone to make, nuanced decision about your personal life. he is in a very unique situation begin his tragic family circumstances. it takes time to do it. your kwi of timing, i question too late. every day he waits, hillary clinton's start gets deeper. if he is going to do it, he's got to do it soon. it's narrow. >> he had lunch with president obama today. would the president endorse joe biden? would he stay neutral? what would he do?
>> i think that would be i would be surprised if he were to get directly involved in the race between two people he is very close to personally and people who served him very loyally. people he considers friends. two people he believes would be excellent presidents and excellent nominees. my guess is he would not get involved. we'll see how the race plays itself out. >> it sure will be interesting to see. dan, thank you so much. >> thank you. the first democratic debate, you see it on the screen is next week right here on cnn. be sure to watch next tuesday night. it begins at 8:30. "out front" next, 28 americans lost at sea. their ship sank at 50-foot waves in a category 4 hurricane. why did that ship ever leave port? new details after this. jeannie moos with jennifer aniston's latest commercial. you'll never want to fly another airline. amerivest selects the funds and manages your portfolio.
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tonight new pictures of debris from the missing cargo ship that vanished after sailing straight into the eye of hurricane joaquin at a category 4 level. the coast guard is scouring the waters off the bahamas for the 28 missing americans onboard. they just released these images. the ship was ripped apart by the category 4 storm. rescue crews are holding out hope for survivors. ntsb is on the scene investigating why this happened. why was that ship even in that water to begin with? . >> reporter: these are just some of the missing crew members of the container ship "el faro."
33 souls on board, including 28 americans. there was one unidentified victim wearing a cold water emergency suit was found. mary's daughter was among the missing. >> we will scream and cry and pray. >> questions now growing, why did the "el faro" set out from puerto rico? the company says at the time it set out, joaquin was only a tropical storm but cnn reported hours earlier joaquin was forecasted to become a full-on hurricane and would cross "el faro's" intended path. last wednesday, they got an e-mail from the ship's captain indicating everything was okay. >> he understood the weather condition that was out in front of him, the location that he had been monitoring the track and that he had a sound plan that
the crew was well prepared and briefed and that the weather conditions looked very favorable. >> reporter: 7:20 a.m. is the last contact they had with the ship. it had lost power, it was listing and had taken on water and at this point the full power of hurricane joaquin was bearing down. in those conditions, a cargo ship without power would be at the mercy of up to 50-foot waves. what started as a research trip for cnn's derek bandan turned into a search and rescue. >> we're directly in the middle of hurricane joaquin's eye. >> reporter: they found nothing last thursday, but by saturday, an enormous debris field was located, including one of two lifeboats on the ship heavily damaged and no one on board. today, even more debris from "el faro" found.
but still, no sign of life as the excruciating wait for the families of the missing goes on. >> miguel, i just don't understand, if they are saying the forecast was for it to become a category 4 hurricane, the ship sailed, a whole day went by, the forecast got worse and worse, why continue on that path? >> the captain clearly thought he could get beyond t turning back was an option. i spoke to a maritime expert, because they had taken on water, to have lost polpusion, the ship would have rolled over. >> and in terms of survivors, obviously the coast guard said to me yesterday, five days would be what they would be looking at in good conditions. this, obviously when it began,
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jennifer aniston, america's sweetheart. she always seems to have the right things, the haircut, the clothes, and now the airline seat that you didn't even know she had until you want it. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: it's not easy to find a place to take a shower eight miles up, even when you're jennifer aniston. >> i'm looking for a shower. >> there's no showers here, ma'am. >> i'm going to look pretty silly dressed like this going to the bar. >> there's no bar here but we do have hot towels and a bag of peanuts. >> reporter: and with this domestic airlines, america's sweetheart begins her dig advertising emrits airline. next thing you know, she winds up in the emirates plane.
it's the only airline to offer showers in first class. >> it's actually pretty spacious. you get five total minutes. >> it's so heavy, it's hard to resist a little show and tell. >> that was pretty fantastic. >> the only bad news about the in-flight shower is that you'll take a bath when it comes to paying the ticket price. round trip first class between new york and dubai, just over $30,000. but you do get your own little suite to sleep in. they are using stars like nicole kidman to expands into the u.s. market while big three american airlines pushed back saying their rivals have an unfair advantage because they are subsidized by their governments. >> is there someone that we can talk to about flying this around a little longer. >> reporter: you never know, the real jen suffers from fear of flying. >> i struggle with it. >> reporter: but it's less of a
struggle when you're in the shower, a shower at 40,000 feet makes you feel less psycho. unless you hit turbulence. then, fasten your shower cap. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> and thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 begins right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. we have breaking news tonight from one end of the country to another. water still rising and more dams failing in the carolinas and new development in roseburg, oregon. we begin with that. late word from police there, they are paying close attention to whether the gunman's mother bears any responsibility for the shooting rampage that took nine lives at umpqua community college. they tell us they are aware of the mother's media postings and electronic window perhaps into her thinking about firearms, crime, her son and possibly his state of mind. additionally, we'll get the thoughts on all of this from, frankly, a remarkable woman who survived the shooting