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to fight and win and come together. >> the next speaker will be someone who stops trying to purr s pursue conservatives. >> thanks to all of you. join us on tuesday night live from las vegas. i'll be joining anderson cooper on the stage. i'm dana bash in washington. this is gps, global public square. welcome to you in the united states and all around the world. it's been a busy week and we'll put it all in perspective. syria, what exactly is putin's end game? israel, what is behind the
recent uptick in violence there? will it get worse? refugees, how many should the united states take this. all that with an all star panel. also, a nuclear deal with iran. normalized relations with cuba, big accomplishments but was a deal reached this week even more important. i will talk to the united states trade representative about negotiating the transpacific partnership. another workweek is about to begin. how would you like to work just six hours a day, get paid full salary and not get fired for it. we'll show you how. first, here's my take. recent setbacks in afghanistan from the bombing of a hospital in that city raised the
question. why after 14 years of american military efforts is afghanistan still so fragile? after all the country has a democratic elected government widely viewed as legitimate. poll after poll suggests the taliban are unpopular. the afghan army fights fiercely and loyally. yet the taliban always come back. the answer to this puzzle can be found in a profile of the taliban's new leader. it turns out that pe lives in quatar. sometimes in an enclave where he and some other taliban leaders have built homes. we will bin laden lived for years in a compounds. all three of these cities are in pakistan. we cannot solve the problem of afghanistan without recognizing that the insurgency against the
government has opinion accused of being shaped, aided and armed from across the border by one of world's most powerful army. someone inside or outside the u.s. government points this out. no one knows quite what to do so it's swept under the carpet and policy stays the same. this is not an incidental issue. unless it's confronted the taliban will never be defeated. this case many experts believe the insurgents, rebels have a nuclear armed sponsor. pakistan has mastered the art of pretending to help the united states while supporting it's most deadly foes. take for example the many efforts american officials have made to start talks with the taliban. it turns out they were talking
ghosts. all the while pakistani officials have been facilitating contacts and talks with him. this is part of a pattern. pakistani officials from former president categorically deniy i that bin laden was living in pakistan. the pakistani army has been described as the godfather of the taliban. pakistan was the base for the american supported majority as they battled the soviet union. the united states with drew almost as quickly and pakistan entered that strategic void. now history is repeating itself.
as the united states draws down, pakistan again seeks to expand its influence through long standing proxy. what should america do? first pakistan's former ambassador to the united states, the u.s. needs to see reality for what it is. quote, when you are lied to and you don't respond, you are encouraging more lies, unquote. he argues that washington has to get much tougher with the pakistani military and make clear that its double dealing must stop. to do this would be good for afghanistan and stability in that part of world but it would also be good for pakistan. pakistan is a time bomb waiting to explode. it ranks 43rd in the world by the size of its bank. it has one of the world's largest armies.
it maintains close ties with some of world's most brutal terrorists. the country has five and a half million children who don't attend school. the world's second highest number. as long as this military and its mind set are unchecked and unreformed the united states will face a strategic collapse as it with draws forces from the region. for more go to cnn.com/fareed. let's get started. let's get straight to the rest of this development and elsewhere with a really terrific panel. ian is the president of a global
risk consultant. peter is contributing editor at the laatlantic. you have studied putin for a long time. what do you think is going on? is this a sign of weakness or strength? is he desperately trying to sure up a failing ally or is this an ingenious power. >> i think it's a little bit of both. i've always said he's not a strategist. he runs tactical circles around washington. it doesn't mean he has a strategy for the long run or if he does it it's a good one. you don't know what will come out of his being in syria. on the other hand, he is economy is cratering. his military is still a lot weaker than the u.s. military. >> you wrote a column saying
there is smart if only obama could be this active. he's defending a regime that has 80% of the population. really a relatively small investment of a few plane, couple thousands soldiers. he sures up an ally. russia has always wanted to expand in the mediterranean. he's exploring an alliance with iran. >> what is the chance it will defeat isis? >> it will sure up a stand.
prove that he is a reliable patron to client states. that's in his interest to show that russian power is power that you can depend on. >> you were shaking your head. >> i don't think he's out there to destroy isis. i don't think he wants to take casualties. that would be very unpopular back in russia. the europeans think that syria is more important than ukraine. you now understand the only road is going to go through moscow. if you combine that with the fact that the russians have told the paramilitaries on the ground back in ukraine back off your election, which they've done. they have kept -- the cease-fire is working. that's strategy. that's not a tactic. >> you think it's to get the europeans grateful to the
russians and back off of sanctions against russia. the sanctions expire in december. >> absolutely. one thing to do with increased terrorism. you put yourself on the opposite side of the entire world. >> peter makes an excellent point. putin is aligning himself with an exclusively shia coalition. the other thing he's doing is moving into areas the u.s. has traditionally dominated.
just this week a representative of the russian defense ministry said look at afghanistan, it's a total mess. america is messing it up badly. >> if you think of the way he's sustained himself in power, the kgb agent becomes the reformist president in his first term, those early years. he's like a frog who jumps from lily pad to lily pad. he feels one of them sinking under his weight he jumps to the next thing. this is how he sustains his power. it helps sure up his domestic problem.
>> it's worked hard. per capita income in russia has gone up a lot. they are effective vively blaming the united states. 9 90% get their media from television which is controlled by the russian state. at the end of the day i think that machine together with the fact putin is able to show some victories, beat the rest the couple of times, that's working well. he also scored seven goals this week for his 63rd birthday in hockey. >> do you think obama should do anything to counter putin?
>> no. you want to get into a quagmire in syria, be my guest. just because a country has more troops and more planes flying over another country does not mean that it's stronger. it's hard to see even if it's help putin domestically in some way, very hard to see how it ends well. >> all right. we're going to come back and talk about the violence in israel. we'll also talk about the trade bank when we come back. but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability
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we are back. before the break peter said the fact that russia is bombi ining syria, it does not mean power positions are improving. you disagree. >> now the horrific refugee crisis. united states does have an interest. it has a humanitarian interest but we also have a geo political interest. in 1991 we created no fly zones over northern iraq. we saved a lot of curds by doing that but we helped to create the kurdish autonomous region. >> when we think about syria what you're talking about is any
u.s. involvement would have to be aimed at dislodging assad from power. we dislodge hussein from power. we did it in yemen. it feels like we know how this move will end. >> we have overcommitted in the past. the answer to that is not completely. >> first of all, syria is many countries. just because we can't solve the riddle of syria doesn't mean we can't do a lot for the kurdish areas of syria to maintain some opposition. something in this country that's decent and a source of instability. >> i would say the problem with
syria is not obama's policy. it's what's he's been saying doesn't bear anything to that policy. >> israel. what is going on with this rise of terrorism? does it represent something bigger? >> yeah, i think what it represents is both among israelis and palestinians the forces that actually genuinely want a real two state solution has been weakening and weakening over time. what you're see ing is a growth on both sides. i believe it's growing weaker and weaker on both sides. >> look, i also wanted two
states and a decent palestinian state that can provide for its people and not be a thorn in the side. the problem is the failure of relationship. he has on the one hand tried and is trying as far as i know to tamp down violence. on the other hand he stokes it and he contributes to it politically by going to the u.n. and declaring the oslo cords are null and void. you need to generate a palestinian leadership that wants a two-state solution and is committed to that in some serious way and it's talking out of both sides of its mouth. >> we have to move on. i have to ask quickly, as a refugee you wrote a piece about why the united states should take many more refugees. you think we should take more than what we are taking. >> absolutely. i think america does quite an excellent job of taking in
immigrants, refugee, absorbing them, making them into americans. the point i was trying to make in that piece is the idea of a refugee is a pretty politically selective idea. i was a refugee because i was jewish from the soviet union. we were able to get refugee status, get on a plane and in ten hours we were in washington, d.c. we didn't have to pay smugglers. we didn't have to make a dangerous sea crossing. >> we didn't get a chance to talk about tpp. what do you think of the transpacific pact? >> it's 40% of the world committee. it's deeper integration. it's by far the part of the world that we need to engage
with the most. china which opposed it when it was first announced, now the leadership is saying these are important standards. it's like they used to talk about the world trade organization. this will go down as the single most important successful foreign policy legacy of the obama administration. >> the transpacific partnership is the most important foreign policy success of this administration. next on gps we will sort it out with the architect of that deal. u.s. trade representative michael froman. we got the new tempur-flex and it's got the spring and bounce of a traditional mattress. you sink into it, but you can still move around.
compromising 40% of the economy. why is mrs. clinton against something she's pushed 45 times in the past publicly. if it's such a great deal, why is the administration being secretive about the details? we'll get to all of that with my thex guest, the man who oversaw the deal. nice to have you on. >> good to be here. >> first, 11 nations. this took six years. it's quite an accomplishment. i've got to ask you what is the key to getting a deal of this magnitude. what did you learn about negotiating? >> it took a lot of persistence by all 12 countries working together to reach an agreement that will increase jobs and wages. >> it was six years in the making during a good bit of that time the secretary of state you were dealing with was hillary clinton. publicly she supported it.
was she very supportive privately as well? >> i won't comment on presidential politics. just to say we're all focused on making sure through this agreement we can level the playing field. >> you must have been surprised by her opposition? >> well, again, i think the key thing is to focus on having the deal on the table. having people have chance to read it. get into the details to make a judgment about it. we're convinced it's a very high standard deal. it opens markets around the world and eliminates 18,000 taxes on u.s. exports. it raises labor, environmental standards around the world. it establishes new disciplines. all of which reflect american interest and values. i'm convinced as the people sit down and take the time to go thereupon it in detail they will come to a positive judgment. >> if this is such a good deal, why is it all secret?
>> it's not all secret. we put out a lot of information along the way. we're looking forward to getting texts released as soon as possible. it's an international negotiation. >> what do you say to people about bernie sanders and donald trump who say the result of these american jobs get shipped overseas? >> we got 95% of all the world consumers living outside the united states. some of these are the fastest growing and largest economies in the world. shipped from abroad we need access to those markets. that's how we going to grow good
paying jobs in the united states. if we can tear down these barriers. we're going to need more good paying jobs in the united states. >> foreign policy component to this and it was something strongly supported by hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. do you hope that a president clinton would follow through on a policy that she was very much part of creating? >> i think this is a key part of the rebalancing toward asia strategy. it's one of most concrete m manifestations of that policy. our partners want us to be
embedded with them economically and strategically. the logic of that goal will continue to hold going forward. >> could china see this as a kind of containment strategy the united states is ganging up with all its allies and trying to shut china out? >> tpp is not directed against any country including china. it is directed at accomplishing high standards for the region. rules of the road that reflect our interest and our values. it's meant to encourage other countries to raise their game as well. we already have countries who contacted us and want to be considered for the next tpp partners. we expect more countries will join over time if they are able and willing to meet the high standards of the agreement. >> michael froman, thank you. >> thanks for having me. are you interested in hillary clinton's thoughts on trade and this apparent flip-flop?
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this week sweden took center stage as this week's nobel prize winners were announced. there's another reason why they've been in the news lately. they are pioneering a bold concept in the working world. the six-hour workday. businesses all over sweden are foregoing 9:00 to 5:00 shifts for a 9:00 to 3:00 day for or s variation to improve their quality of life. can working less give businesses
a competitive advantage. consider a study that found those working 40 hours or less per week out perform those who work more than 55 hours per week on certain tasks. in another study, a stanford economist concluded the number of hours somebody works isn't directly proportional to his output. about 48 working hours productivity goes down. tony schwartz has explained people work better in short bursts rather than long grinds. in sweden, companies have been raving about the six-hour workday. the shorter days give employees more energy and they work better as a team with fewer disagreements. another web outfit says it has a competitive advantage over companies with its shorter shift since it can attract and retain great workers with such a great
perk. in the united states, web companies like relevance and tree house have reported stellar employee retention rates after implementing a four day workweek and google's larry page has also supported that idea. yet, despite the arguments for shorter workdays american workers seem to be spending a lot of time at the office. a 2014 survey found that american adults working full-time put in an average of 47 hours per week. nearly a full business day more than the typical 40 hour workweek. almost one in five americans work 60 hours per week or more. u.s. workers logged more hours than any other country. it's worth remembering that a pioneer of the modern american workplace, henry ford, cut back his employees hours as part of his revolutionary approach to
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last week i brought you part of a fascinating discussion i had with president bill clinton, italian prime minister. there's more great stuff for you to see. this time they're talking about the future of europe. we started off talking about the deep divisions the euro crisis had created. >> i'm a great believer in the european union. unfortunately, it was inspired
that created this tension between character and that is by its nature unequal. >> given that unequal nature and given the many crisis europe faces today, how does it get back on its feet? here is italy's prime minister. the question is where is the strategy of europe for the future? i think, this is my point of view, in the last month i'm not able tounderstandifthisis correct. i'm really surprised the lack of support by some leaders. for example, refugees. we discussed a lot about refugees and the people told us in the european this is a problem of italy.
i remember some colleagues who told me, this is your business not ours. after the crisis, after the picture in newspaper, the same leaders who told us this is your problem, realize interview incredible. i open my doors. i open my house to refugees. the same leader who told me this is your business to months before. it's not a joke. i don't say the name. what is the problem for europe? the lack of strategy. for italy it's important and we
too but we ask to european community an idea for the next ten years, 20 years. the lack of vision would be the first problem more than division. the lack of vision is a problem more than the principle division. >> why do you think it's so hard to achieve reform in europe. i wouldn't want reform. it's the greatest life in the world. it's beautiful country. amazingly rich. incredibly nice work rules. you can take long vacations. you can retire early. they've created this paradise. now their being told this is all going to change. you got to work harder. you got to retire. it's stuff for politicians to
take stuff af way. for the last 30 years they've been elected saying here's more. here's more. >> it is. they created a good society. it's a question of how to handle growth. i believe if the immigration or refugee problem can be turned from a problem into an opportunity, just take syria, for example. historically second lar and not super religious in terms of political violence. europe is the only european country. it's younger than america. the irish were growing like crazy before they got by banking bubble. they had lots of immigrants.
having lost it, i can tell you youth matters. the demographics of a country will define how many new jobs you can create, how many you can allocate to consumer spending. it's very productive. france has high productivity growth. they have to because they have static work rules. the germans still have higher percentage gdp manufacturing and in exports and japan. northern italy has had a higher per capita income that germany. in order to do this and make these decisions and trade offs
you have to have a sane conversation and people have to be secure about it. do i think they can grow like china? no. they don't want to give up, and they shouldn't, the level of social solidarity and economic equality they have achieved certainly greater than we have. they can have higher rates of growth. it's just a decision to be made. i think what you said is right. this whole thing should have a revision in the european idea. it should be a revision upward, not downward, in my opinion. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. >> thank you. next, what mickey, minnie and mow have in common.
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this week california's governor jerry brown signed into law the end of life option act. it's all about quality of death. it may be a grim topic but something we ought to talk about more. the economist intelligence unit ranked 80 countries by quality of death analyzing factors like care, affordability, care qualities. it brings me to my question, which country ranked number one in the 2015 quality of death
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socialist values. you can even take an oath to become a party member. every child's dream, right? the government has been criticized for spending money on this propaganda park. perhaps they should have included flashier rides like a communist coaster, a mild mountain. they might have taken a page from the russian neighbors and focused more on the red omni. russia opened patriot park this summer dedicated to russia's military. it attracts tens of thousands of visitors who want to spend time especially joying russia's latest military weapons. again again it might be better for children to play with chinese manifestos. the correct challenge is a, united kingdom ranked number one in the economist intelligence unit quality of death index.
taiwan is sixth and the united states ranked nineth overall. mo thanks to all you for being part of my program. see you next week. good morning. reliable sources begin this morning with breaking news out of iran where a court has finally issued a verdict in a possible sentence in the espionage jail of jailed journalist jason rezaian. the serkt averdict and the sente not yet known. we have heard from the washington post. they are trying to gather information the same time we are. we'll check in with the editor there in a moment. he's been