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still ahead. thank you very much. [ cheers and applause ] >> well that, does it for this democratic presidential debate. on behalf of everyone at cnn, we want to thank the candidates, our partners at facebook, the wynn resort, thanks to dana bash, juan lopez and don lemon. we'll be back for our next republican debate moderated by wolf blitzer.
>> i doubt that we'll see much in terms of numbers changing in the polls. i think hillary clinton showed this evening that she is indeed the most experienced debater and that practice and preparation for debates does indeed matter. she was very polished, she had answers ready for all of the charges coming her way. she was also given a big assist by bernie sanders, who said that he was sick and tired -- i'm not quoting him directly -- but sick and tired of discussing hillary clinton's e-mails, which kind of put an abrupt end of that topic of conversation. bernie sanders as i understand it is already sending out fund-raising e-mails on that issue, on that moment. but i think sanders obviously showing his fans out there the issues that he has been fighting for for decades. both of them had good nights but i don't think it's going to shake the race up too much. i thought martin o'malley had a decent night as well. is there a reason for majority
or plurality who support hillary clinton or bernie sanders, i guess, to jump to him. chafee and webb i did not think were tremendous factor and i would be surprised if both of them were around for much longer in terms of their candidacies. >> doesn't look like these candidates are anxious to get out of this room. there you see bernie sanders, who is speaking with some of her supporters. she looks pretty happy, hillary clinton, after these two hours. john king is with us. did hillary clinton do tonight what she needed to do? >> i'll say first and foremost her team is ecstatic. they believe she showed the poise she needed to show and that she had a sense of humor at times but was not afraid to mix it up.
early on she and senator sanders did get into it over guns and other issues. not personal in any way but it got a little feisty for a little bit. the republicans think she made some mistakes on issues, but the goal tonight, democratic primary, they're very happy. >> chris cuomo is with bernie sanders. if you can hear me, talk to the vermont senator. >> senator sanders, how are you? i saw you back stage right before the closing statements. you seed like you were in a quiet moment, getting your thoughts together. where was your head in that moment? >> my head was trying to make the case in the short period of time that we have, that if the middle class of this country is going to survive, if we're going to deal with income and health inequality, we need some very profound changes about the way we do business in this country. >> there was a lot of substance
tonight but the line of the night came from you and probably a gift to hillary clinton, "enough with your damn e-mail." what did that? >> what motivated it is i think the american people want substantive discussion on substantive issues. the middle class in this country is disappearing. we have 27 million people living in poverty. a finance system that's corrupt. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. those are the issues the people want discussed. there is a process in place with the e-mail situation. let it play itself out. but as a nation let us start focusing on why it is that so few have so much and so many have so little. >> others would have chosen to play to advantage. did you not because -- >> because i think it was the right thing to do. i think the american people want substantive debate on the real
issues that are affecting their families. >> do you think you overcame questions that people have as to the how with some of your plans and to the what when it comes to how you described yourself politically, democrat socialist? absolutely. i hope i did. i can't say that i did. we are paying for every public policy idea that we have brought forth. i think overwhelmingly the american people do believe that we have to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create millions of jobs doing that and that we pay for that by doing away with outrageous tax breaks that corporate america is getting. the american people do understand that we have got to treat public colleges and universities tuition free so all of our young people have an opportunity to go to college regardless of their income. people are disgusted, i can't tell you whether they're republicans, democrats, moderates, progressives, people are disgusted with the campaign finance system that allows billionaires to buy elections.
>> what do you tell people you can create the kind of large scale, sweeping change you're asking to. can nobody is asking to do as much as you are. what do you tell them about how you get it done? >> what i tell them is that tonight there are probably 100,000 people at house parties as part of the bernie sanders campaign. we have brought out some of the largest crowds that people have seen in many, many years, that there is a level of energy and enthusiasm in our campaign that we're not seeing elsewhere. people are ready for a political revolution. they're ready to transform america and that's what our campaign is about. >> this is going to be a tough question for you but the word is the crowd is actually coming out to see jane. are you okay with that? she's here now. a lot of times the camera started on you but went from jane. i'd rather hear from jane. how do you think your man did tonight? >> i think he did great. he speaks the truth, comes from principle, knows what he believes and put it out there. >> i grew up in situations
watching what the wife would do watching her husband to help and hurt the situation. how do you feel now. >> i'm surprised how quickly it went. i looked to my son and said, "wait, it's closing arguments already?" >> did it go quickly for you, senator? this was probably the biggest night for you and everybody up there. >> it did go quickly. while there were differences of opinion up here, there was a serious, substantive debate about the major crises facing our country, unlike the republican debate which was name calling. it seemed like a food fight rather than a substantive debate. >> biggest thing that got left on the table tonight that you still want to address with the american people? >> income and wealth inequality. i don't think we spent enough time on that.
it's the great moral issue. we should not be living in a country where the top 10% owns just about as much as the bottom 90%. >> always great to speak to you. one down, many to go. wolf, back to you. senator sanders said he wanted it to be about policy. all of them did but you never know what's going to happen once it starts to fly around among them about whom is better than whom. it seemed to be substantive. to see him backstage right before the closing, his eyes were shut, deep in thought, right by his friend jim webb. those are the moments that wind up defining how you're going to perform in a debate. he feels he did well tonight. >> stand by. i want to get some more impressions about what happened here tonight. david axelrod former obama adviser. some are already suggesting,
david, this may have been hillary clinton's best debate. you organized a lot of help for barack obama 2007, 2008 against hillary clinton. how did she do? >> i think she did very, very well. i said before the debate that if president elections were dekhat lons, this was her event. think she showed why. if i were her campaign, i would be thrilled with what she did here tonight. >> gloria borger, what about bernie sanders? did he achieve what he wanted to? >> he did in a way. he spoke to the supporters and base to the democratic party. i'm not sure he made the case as to why he's electable as a candidate. i think he had a rough moment when hillary clinton surprisingly to me took him on on gun control, an issue on which she's been consistent and he has been inconsistent. i don't think he was kind of ready for that attack from her and i think she did extraordinarily well.
i agree with david. she was so adept at making herself the candidate of both experience and change. it's kind of hard to do that. >> she clearly was prepared. she had gone through rehearsal after rehearsal getting ready for this. she anticipated these questions and the criticism she would get from some of the candidates. >> let's give anderson credit. i thought the questions were focused and appropriate. it was an adult debate yet thoroughly entertaining. >> i want to play a clip for you. our senior reporter is with us. she's been accused of flip-flopping, especially on this new trade agreement in the pacific. when she was secretary of state, she seemed to be supporting it. now she says it not such good deal.
she was asked to explain the flip flop. listen to this. >> i do absorb new information and look at what's happening in the world. the trade deal, i did say when i was secretary of state three years ago that i hoped it would be the gold standard. it was just finally negotiated last week and in looking at it, it didn't meet my standard. >> nia, satisfactory answer? >> i think she's doing a little fudging here. i think she called it the gold standard rather than say she hoped it would be the gold standard. she said later at some point who among us on this stage hasn't changed our minds on a thing or two. but she's got some work to do on this answer. i think we've talked about this before. i think it's going to be to her political benefit that she has flipped to the side where unions are and much of the democratic party is and where bernie sanders is.
but this is going to dog her, this issue of flip-flopping. >> i think one of her best moments was on a flip flop attack from lincoln chafee on the war on iraq questioning her judgment. her answer was barack obama debated this in 2008, he knew what my vote was and he appointed me secretary of state because he had confidence in my judgment. that was a brilliant answer. >> she was prepared with that one. >> i thought her brilliant answer was the single word to lincoln chafee when he was challenging her credibility. anderson said do you want to respond to that? she said, "no." >> she was prepared but to me she didn't seem prepared, she didn't seem prefabricated. her tone was good, she seemed very fluid and that's not always the case. that's why i think this night was so successful. >> she seemed very relaxed. she was consistent throughout the whole thing.
in the beginning bernie sanders was clearly off his game, not used to being questioned, particularly on guns. he was i think in some ways a little unprepared for that. but i thought she was consistent and comfortable throughout the whole time. also i thought played the gender card, if you can call it that, in a pretty clever way. not on in her opening answer but also in her closing statement and also using it as an argument for why she is an outsider. >> she did a lot on the debates from 2007 and 2008. she clearly knew what she was doing tonight. bernie sanders, he was asked to explain to the american public why he thinks it's a good idea to declare he's a so-called democratic socialist as opposed to a capitalist. here's what he said. >> we're going to win because first we're going to explain what democratic socialism is. and what democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong that the
top 1/10 of 1% in this country own almost as much wealth as the 90 bottom percent. >> is that going to work? is that going to be a satisfactory answer to the public? >> it going to be a satisfactory answer to senator sanders supporters. remember, this is a debate in a democratic primary. republicans are seizing on that saying senator sanders and everybody else followed him, the democratic party is lurching more to the left, how are you going to pay for this? in terms of keeping his base, which is a surprisingly good slice of this race right now, senator sanders, i don't think there's anything you'll find tonight except for perhaps the gun control argument where he did not play to his people.
and his people right now is a pretty interesting and good size slice. one of his goals was not just to contrast with hillary clinton, it was to keep governor o'malley or anyone else from getting into his lane. if you're the sanders campaign, did you your job. >> he referred to denmark, he said this is united states, we're not ready for that kind of socialism. >> i looked at jim webb tonight. i wondering what kind of a wild card would he be. he revealed himself to be a very intelligent, very thoughtful republican. this is a guy who i think could play better on the other party stage. >> let's go to jake tapper. he has a special guest. jake, talk to us. >> thanks, wolf. we're here in the spin room. i want to bring in tad divine, he the media manager for the
bernie sanders' campaign, a senior adviser to a super pac supporting hillary clinton, and cnn commentator van jones. gentlemen, who have picked candidates, i want to start with you. the big question, challenge for bernie sanders is he has his die hard supporters, much enthusiasm, very excited about bernie sanders and his ideas. can he expand beyond that? do you think he did that tonight? >> yes. i think america is going to begin to see someone who is deeply committed to taking on the biggest problem in this country right now, which is the gross inequality of wealth and income in america. and also a political system, a fund-raising system in america which is keeping that rigged economy in place. he delivered that message. i think he's setting the agenda, not just in this debate but on the election on that issue. >> i think it's fair to say, paul, you saw the influence this
evening of bernie sanders crowds and the black lives matter activists, which is a separate issue, but you saw their influence on the candidates. hillary clinton coming into this campaign, coming into this debate this evening with the challenge can she excite her supporters? she winning in a lot of polls nationally in iowa and other states but can she get them excited? did she do that tonight? >> i do. first of all, we saw the obama coalition. a big deal from the republicans who stand up attacking their leaders, they stand up there and attack john boehner in a debate. i thought she did a great job stylistically. david mentioned this and she's
been critical of my friend hillary. she's often been too scripted. he was enjoying herself. she was relishing this. and even when she went after bernie sanders, a disagreement about the gun issue, there was no animus. she looked like she was having fun up there. >> one of the key moments this evening i think came when bernie sanders i think did a solid for hillary clinton when it came to a question about the e-mail controversy, which is about not just e-mails, it's about national security. let's take a look at that moment from the debate. >> if this committee is basically an arm of the republican national committee, it is a partisan vehicle, as admitted by the house republican majority leader, mccarthy, to drive down my poll numbers, big surprise. that's what they have attempted to do. i am still standing.
i am happy to be part of this debate and i intend to keep talking about the issues that matter to the american people. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too, me too! >> the middle class, anderson -- and let me say something about the media as well. i go around the country, talk to a whole lot of people, middle class of this country is collapsing. we have 27 million people living in poverty, we have massive wealth and income inequality, our trade policies have cost us millions of decent jobs. the american people want to know whether we're going to have a democracy or an oligarchy of citizens united. enough of the e-mails. let's talk about the issues of the citizens of america. >> thank you, bernie. >> these last two weeks, hillary
clinton and her campaign have been given two in-kind contributions, one from senator mccarthy and one from senator sanders. were you expecting bernie sanders to do that? >> no, it was a very smart move. he's a personal friend of mine. very smart. because hillary's favorable in this morning's abc news/"washington post" poll is 79% among democrats. if you take a shot at her, especially about something that democrats, any fair-minded person, one of the investigators has now come forward and said the investigation is partisan. i thought bernie did a brilliant thing. he was speaking for everybody i run into when i travel, too. it's like enough with the damn e-mails. talk about what matters. >> was this planned? >> no.
bernie has not been making an issue of this and he wasn't going to make an issue of it tonight. was that line planned? no. >> it easy to imagine him saying it from behind doors. >> i'm not doing my best voice. it's not going to happen. >> but it's easy to imagine him expressing what he feels behind closed doors. >> one of the things we practiced for is let bernie be bernie. he's real, he's raw. he's connecting with people. the reason we're not going to attack clinton on e-mails and stuff like that. we believe he has the strongest message. if we deliver it to enough people, he will win. that's what we're going to focus on. >> up next, we're going to talk to the debate moderators, anderson cooper and dana bash and juan lopez and our focus group participants will also weigh in on what we all saw.
this was excellent. i say that not only as your friend but as a critic as well. going. it's often until later on until you actually watch the whole thing that you say, oh, okay, this candidate did really well. i think clearly, you know, look, senator clinton shows she's an accomplished debater. bernie sanders did very well. governor o'malley certainly made a mark and for a lot of people who had no idea who he is.
i think senator webb struggled somewhat and governor chafee as well. but i think, you know, i'm happy with how the debate turned out. i mean, i think for me the whole thing is being fair, being tough and being prepared and when you have people like dana bash and juan carlos and don lemon, it was a great team. >> it was really well done. i think the viewers, the voters out there who were watching know a little bit more about these candidates now than they did a couple hours ago. that was the main purpose, get them educated who they are. you had an interesting exchange with lincoln chafee, the former governor of rhode island >> governor chafee, you've attacked secretary clinton for being too close to wall street backs. in 1999, you voted for the very bill that made banks bigger. >> i just arrived in office, my dad just died. >> are you saying you don't know what you voted for? >> it was 92-5.
>> with all due respect, what does it say you're casting a vote you didn't know what you were voting for? >> i think you're being a little rough. hi been mayor of my city, my dad just died, i just arrived, it was my first vote and it was 90-5. >> totally fair question, you . >> totally fair question. you pressed him. you were polite, to the point. what was your reaction when you saw that exchange? >> i'm sad his dad died. he's a human being and there is the human side which obviously feels bad. but you are on a debate stage running for president of the united nations u united states. you cast a vote that the people you voted for should know what was in your behind mind and if you knew what you were voting for. ris response i was startled by his description, it's one. to say i regret that vote it's one. to say i'm not sure i was doing
at the time. >> i had been in the senate a few weeks, my dad died, i voted for it. i was surprised by that. >> you were surprised? >> i was surprised by that as well. take us behind the scene, some commercial breaks, some were longer, some were shorter, what was going on? >> trips to the restroom. i don't know if our viewers can tell what anderson was joking about when you came back into the third block, hillary clinton was a little late to getting back to the stage. >> proprietary. >> we were all kind of think, oh my goodness, she going to make it back. he did a good job of joking about it. look, the candidates are allowed to have a couple moments with their family member, with their aides. they take a breath. i didn't notice a lot of interaction. one. i noticed, i'm notture the camera got it. a lot of interaction between webb and sanders.
i saw sanders whispering to webb i'll do my best to help you do that. there were those kind of moments i don't think the camera got. >> was there a breakout moment for you, juan carlos, did you see anything there that surprised you? >> i was surprised how they were working together, even though hillary clinton was dominating the conversation. just the way, the demeanor, you could see that senator webb and governor chafee weren't looking at her when she was speaking. but governor o'malley and senator sanders were looking at her all the time. >> i want to show viewers our pictures. hillary clinton is speaking with some of her supporters out there. she's not necessarily leaving yet, these are pictures that we're showing you viewerers, i guess she wrapped up in one of the rooms over there with some of her supporters out there. i think she's, anderson, i'm sure you agree, she's pretty pleased with what happened tonight. >> i haven't talked to her other
than in an eerie setting on a stage like this, i feel her campaign has to feel she did pretty well. there were no major gaffes from her standpoint. it was interesting to watch governor o'malley's body language, she was very much turned towards hillary clinton and bernie sanders. you didn't sew that from governor chafee. he clearly wanted to come and engage. in doing that on the campaign trail. our question coming into this is look when you come up with questions and juan carlos and dana are intricately involved in this. you look at this debate, you look to see are these candidates going to go engage with one another? we could never be sure if they were going to engage with one another. which is why we designed the questions to be very much frontal from us to them about their record. >> because you don't, you hear their talking points.
you want to hear them exchange ideas. this is a debate, after all. >> absolutely. i think they did exchange ideas on the issues where there really are disadproemts. one. i felt was fascinating on that topic, i want to know what clearly went into this, are determined to be perceived as the front runner and the person who has it locked up. and she did it not just in her demeanor, but her answers, for example, on paid leave, which is something i asked her about. she gave a very, very sort of hard core democratic answer, not just about that but about big government so forth. >> that played well to the crowd here of democrats and will serb her well in the democratic primary. but it could be a flash point a. major flash point if she gets the democratic nomination. >> because the things that all of at least candidates said tonight, very pleasing to democrats. in the general election, maybe not so much. up next, high-tech feedback we are getting from members of
. >> welcome back to cnn's post-debate show, we have some real time high-tech feedback on what we heard the candidates say tonight and a moment that drew huge applause here when bernie sanders sided with hillary clinton over the issue of the controversy about her private e-mail server. cnn's randi kaye is with a focus
group just outside las vegas. randy, what was the reaction? what did they respond to? >> reporter: well, there isn't a whole lot of things. it was a real interesting group. we have 20 undecided voters here, jake. kussai them all seated behind me. they're democrats and independents. they had one of these in our hands for dial testing. they were able to move the dial up whether or not as they responded to every word they said. if they liked something, they moved it up. there were a lot of high points and low points based on what they saw on tv. one of the high points during our debate for this group was when bernie sanders showed some support for hillary clinton as she was being questioned about her private e-mail server. so i want you to watch this clip and pay very close attention to the line t. blue mens are the men in our group t. yellow lines are the women. so take a look. >> let me say something that may not be great politics, but i think the secretary is right and
that is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you, me too, me too! >> the middle class, anderson, and let me say something about the media as well, i go around the country, talk to a whole lot of people. the middle class of this country is collapsing. we have 27 million people living in poverty. massive wealth and income equality. our trade policy versus cost us millions of decent jobs. the american people want to know whether we're going to have a democracy or an allegarchy for citizens united. enough of the e-mails. face the issues in america. >> that was a great moment on our screens here. we were watching it. the women were yell -- the men were in yellow the women in pink. bernie sanders made a big deal about not wanting to hear about
scandals, how many of are you tired of hearing ability these scandals and want to get back to issues? how many of you raise your hands think bernie sanders won this debate? most of you. okay. and how many of you think hillary clinton won this debate? all right. okay. let me ask you here. you have an interesting thought for a ticket that you would like to see. >> my dream team would be hillary clinton bernie sanders definitely. i think hillary is very presidential, bernie sanders hits home when it comes home to what matters to [ inaudible ] i'm sorry. >> they're dischecking. >> reporter: okay. let me ask you, let me ask, i'm having trouble with this microphone, hopefully we'll get that mixed. tell me again what you are looking for in a presidential
candidate? >> i think hillary clinton was more knowledgeable and came off more predential than the other candidates, who all did a great job. first of all, i want to say everybody was remarkable, plaque and white compared to the republican debates. i think hillary looked more presidential. bernie is more passionate. they'd make a great team. >> as a him who, what did you think of hillary showing on stage with all these guys? >> i was very proud of hillary. she brought it out for the women, but i kind of like bernie after this whole debate. he really pushed me to his side with his packs speaking for the average person. >> reporter: bernie sanders is a self-described democratic social it. do you have a problem with that? are you okay wheith that? >> i think this country needs socialism in its system especially with health care and the disparity between the 1% and
the people the working poor and the poor. i think there is more working poor now in this country than there are middle class. and i think he wants to remedy that as well. >> reporter: so income equality is very, very important to this group and also the whole group of plaque lives matter, the sanders group came out saying they would reintroduce bernie sanders to the black community. so let me ask you, did you hear, sir, what you wanted to hear from bernie sanders tonight? >> yes, i did. he spoke right out and he was saying how the republicans have been so just rude and unprofessional with obama, president obama and i totally agree. i think it's more of a racial. than anything else because there's been democrats and republican presidents and none of them have been treated and disrespected like they've done him. it goes to show you the prejudice in this world goes all the way to politics, to
government. >> he r. >> reporter: he certainly says he will fix that. jake, one interesting note, our group was asked if you were going to vote tonight, even though they're undecided, who would you vote for? it was evenly split between clinton and sanders. then they said, regardless of who you may now support, who do you think will most likely win the primary and overwhelming, jake, it was hillary clinton. >> fascinating. randi kaye with the focus group outside lough. let's talk more about this with a democratic strategist and a political senior adviser to a super pack supporting hillary clinton. we also have with us bernie sander's senior media adviser and cnn political commentator van jones. van, let me start with you. you heard the reference to plaque lives matter and the fact that bernie sanders was this evening going to attempt to address the issue more. he has struggled with
african-american audiences, he has struggled to talk about the black lives matter movement. he's pulling horrendously in south carolina with black voters. what did you hear? >> first, class won tonight. not just class, issues, class as dignitary. this is a dignified debate. you can tell people who don't agree treating people with great respect. i think that's been important for the country. class has been losing up until now. the other. is black lives matter won this debate. this is the first time i have seen the entire democratic party speak this forthrightly about the issue of anti-black racism. >> that is a direct result of these young activists who have felt so hopeless and so frustrated, they marched after ferguson. they marched after charleston, baltimore, they have had an effect. so i hope that the young people are noticing that the top people in the world. hillary clinton is one of the top people in the world are listening to them. they should stay engaged.
stay involved. they are having a tremendous impact on the politics. >> i have to say one of the reasons i think it's fair to say it was a more collegial feel on the stage is because there's much more agreement on that stage than on the republican side. there were strong conservatives and others. do you think that the democratic debate is going to be able to continue to be in relatively friendly and collegial? >> there are also fewer people to contend with for democrats and they almost seem to make a fetish tonight out of how friendly and civil they can be and that is great, it is refrerk, as a republican, i'll say. but it's not, you can't maintain that if you want to usurp the front runner at the moment is hillary clinton. bern benefit will have to get i think a lot more, you know, significant? terms of the amount of criticism he's willing to levy at hillary clinton. i also thought, it was
interesting, republicans are usually criticized for running far to the right during a primary and having to do an unconvincing course correct for the general. i thought the democrats set themselves up very badly for a general in this debate. at the end of the debate, you actually have the democratics naming nra, coal miners, republicans, half the country is essentially the enemy of the democratic party and the democratic candidates. they're going to have to speak to half the country. >> one misstation i adprae with you, basically tonight hillary clinton was beyonce. she was flawless. hillary clinton did an extraordinary job t. one mistake she was to say her favorite were the republicans, i think that was a bridge too far. listen, the big losers tonight, martin o'malley. he had an opportunity. look, he would make a great secretary of the treasury. he talked about banking the
whole time. he'd make a great secretary of hud. he did not come across as commander-in-chief. i think he missed his moment. if i'm biden, i don't see anyway to get on the stage between sanders' performance and hillary clinton's domination. i don't see a road in for biden. but black lives matter won this debate. >> i think o'malley helped himself. i don't know he helped himself enough. a constant drum beat. you like my policy? i di it in maryland. you like that? i did it. i think that worked very well. he's got 15 years of executive experience he likes to say. there were moments where i thought he was food. there were others where i thought he was a little waxy and polemic. >> it's the experience. >> i think there this is a small bump for him. >> all right. coming up next, a closer look at some of the claims that the candidates made throughout this debate. we have a cnn debate reality check. first another key moment from the debate. >> secretary clinton, is bernie
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we're back here following the reaction to this first democratic presidential debate, gloria born ger, if he jumped i, he should have jumped in before this debate. what are you hearing? >> i think joe biden was at home probably watching this debate. i don't see where his different lane is to run. i think there are a lot of people, including joe biden, who believe that he deserved to run, that he spent a lifetime in politics and elective office and this is what he knows how to do and is certainly qualified, but it would be interesting to see
where his lane would be given the fact that a lot of those candidates up there were very supportive of president obama, hillary clinton outlined her differences, but nobody up there was particularly attacking the president, joe wide isn't a big supporter. >> you look at the polls going in, he was running a distant third behind sanders and hillary at the top, nothing that happened tonight would have changed those numbers or given him more encouragement, so i would have to think that this would give him some pause. >> all right. guys, we're going to continue to assess the joe biden factor in all of this, stand by just ahead, will you hear from the candidates directly as we look back at the best moments in this, the first democratic presidential debate.
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i'm wolf blitzer in lough. this is a special edition of 360 as we continued our look at the presidential candidates and it was quite a stunner. >> i'm a progressive, but i'm a progressive who likes to get things done. >> i'm going to win because first we're going to explain what democratic socialism is. what democratic socialism is about is saying it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1% in this country owns
almost 90% almost own as much wealth as the bottom 90%. >> secretary clinton is bernie sanders tough enough on guns? >> no, not at all. >> this was a broad and complicated bill. there were predictions in it that i think made sense. for example, do i think that a gun shop in the state of vermont that sells legally a gun to somebody and that somebody goes out and does something crazy then that gun shop owner should be held responsible, i don't. >> senator sanders did vote five times against the brady bill, since it was passed more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. he also did vote, as se head, for this immunity provision. i voted against it. i was in the senate at the same time. it wasn't that complicated to me. it was pretty straight forward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in america. everybody else has to be accountable but not if gun
manufacturers. we need to stand up and say enough of that. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you. me too. me too! >> the middle class, anderson, let me say something about the media as well, i go around the country, talk to a whole lot of people, middle class in this country is collapsing. we have 27 million people living in poverty. we have massive wealth and income and equality our trade policies cost us millions of decent jobs. the american people want to know whether we will have a democracy or an allegarchy. enough of the e-mails. let's get to the issues facing mech. [ applause ] . >> thank you. >> if you are looking ahead and you look at someone that made that poor decision in 2002 to go into iraq when there was no raefldz of weapons of mass destruction in iraq, i know
because i did my homework and so that's an indication of how someone will perform in the future. >> i recall very well being on a debate stage i think about 25 times with then senator obama debating this very issue. after the election, he asked me to become secretary of state. he valued my judgment. it's always the republicans or their sympathizers who say you can't have paid leave, you can't provide health care. they don't mind having big government to interfere with a woman's right to choose and to try to take down planned parenthood. it's fine when it comes to that. i'm sick of it. we should not be paralyzed, we should not be paralyzed by the republicans and their constant refrain big government this, big government that, except for what they want to impose on the american people. i know we can afford it because here going to make the wealthy pay for it. >> some of the highlights from
this, the first democratic presidential debate. let's go to jake taper, our chief washington woernt e correspondent. what are people in the spin room where you are saying about who won tonight? >> well, i think there is a consensus view both sanders and clinton had very good nights. the question for sanders is, is he going to be able to expand his appeal beyond the army of supporttaries represent the progressive, the liberal base of the party. that's an open question. the big question for hick hick going into the debate, is she going to be able to generate the excitement among her supporters? she leads in most national polls, in iowa, south carolina, nevada. is she going to get her supporters more excited? people seem to think she will, not necessarily because she spoke passionately, but because she was so polished as a debater and so commanding, so i think those are the basic early reviews of the two main
candidates on this stage others say martin o'malley had a good night. nobody thinks his poll numbers will necessarily change as a result, wolf. >> all right. standby over there in the spin room. we will get right back to you. i want to bring if bernie sander's campaign manager, jeff weaver here with us inside the debate hall. thanks, very much for joining us. i will play the entire exchange. a lot of people are talking about how your candidate, bernie sanders, responded to whole uproosh over hillary clinton's e-mail problem. let's listen to it and we'll discuss.
>> but this committee is basically an arm of the republican national committee. it is a partisan vehicle as admitted by the house republican majority leader, mr. mccarthy, to drive down my poll numbers, a big surprise, and that's what they have attempted to do. i am still standing. i am hoep happy to be a part of
this debate. i intend to keep talking about the issues that matter to the american people. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your dam e-mails. >> thank you. me too, me too! [ applause ] >> the middle class, anderson, let me say something about the media as well, i go around the kuptd, talk to a whole lot of people, middle class of this country is collapsing. we have 27 million people living in poverty. we have massive wealth in income and equality. our trade policies cost us millions of decent jobs. the american people want to know whether we will have a democracy or an allegarchy as a result of citizens reunited. enough of the e-mails. let's talk about the issues facing america. >> two happy candidates. >> amen. >> take us behind the scene. we all know the e-mail subject
would come up. was this planned by the senator, based on all the rehearsal the team you spent getting recalled for this event? >> absolutely not. clearly, we knew there was going to be an e-mail question coming up. this was purely bernie sanders being bernie sanders, he was responding to the question, he was in the moment. he has consistently said he doesn't like politics covered as a football game or a baseball game or a soap opera. he doesn't like the personal petty attacks. he doesn't do them himself. he really does want to talk about what he views are the important issues facing america. a ricked economy and a kruptd political system. >> it could be a political mistake to come to her defense. >> absolutely. look, he's more important to him to solve the real problems facing america than it is to get cheap political points against secretary clinton. >> for democrats, he scored points, bernie sanders, in that exchange. >> without question. it was completely unscripped.
it wasn't a mistake. most democrats shared the view he is at least about the benghazi part of the committee investigation what mccarthy said and so on. so he was really speaking for a lot of people. but the wind up was just the pitch after was really strong he got liss full populous message there, i bet there were a lot of folks nodding their heads, my question, jeff, can you convert what appears to be a kind of cause a gap candidacy into one which people say i can see that guy as the commander-in-chief. i can see that guy as the president
of the united states? >> loose, i think that's what we're doing right now. few look at this campaign, people are not only coming out to big rallies. tonight we had 4,000 debate watches with people attending. we have people funding this campaign. we raised almost as much money as hillary clinton in the last quarter, driven by its small contributions online.
we have 650,000 people that gave to the campaign. people don't give money to a gaffe campaign. people believe in this campaign. we are galvanizing the campaign. >> do you think those people voters? >> absolutely. look at thele pos, hoo es ahead in new hampshire. he is doing well in iowa, perhaps the poll you did in nevada, we hadn't had people on the ground here but for a week. our position in nevada, we're doing 50% better in nevada than nationally. look. as these primaries roll closer, people may more attention to bernie, they're coming to him. >> stay with us. we will have more to talk about including where hillary clinton went after your candidate bern boerne on the issue of guns and the things he has done over the years. one of the nice big moments, how did our focus group react to hillary clinton's strong defense of planned parenthood? . >> they don't mind having big government to interfere with a
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>> going back to our democratic debate. hillary clinton's strong defense of planned parenthood, randy, tell us about that moment. >> reporter: jake, we are at nevada college. we have 20 undecided voters with them. they have these dial tested machines. they were able turn them up when they liked when a candidate was saying, they could turn it down when they didn't like what a candidate was saying. so they have some mixed reaction on our dem debate. a lot of reaction was hillary clinton talking about family leave and planned parenthood pay attention to the men and women in our group. >> advisers who say you can't have paid leave. you can't provide health care. they don't mind having big
government to interfere with a woman's right to choose and take down planned parenthood. that's fine when it comes to them. i'm sick of it. we can do these things. we should not be paralyzed by the republicans and their constant refrain, big government this, big government that, except for what they want to impose on the american people. i know we can afford it. we will make the wealthy pay for it. >> that is the way to get it done. >> so a lot of our folks here really liked what hillary clinton said there. so let me ask you as a group, did you find hillary clinton the most authentic candidate on stage tonight? who did? oh, just a few of you. who found bernie sanders to be the most authentic candidate? >> okay. equal. okay. all right. the good news is, we had 20 of them come in undecided, democrats and independents. now you are much closer to deciding, right? >> i was totally on the fence, undecided between hillary and bernie.
i like both of them. to see hillary's fight here tonight at this debate, she's been fighting these republicans for 25 years since whitewater and super gate and the e-mail scandals and the server. >> reporter: so you still haven't decided. you are leaning more towards bernie? you have decided? >> i have. i was hoping to see him. after hearing about hillary's actions with the patriot act and the nsa, i kaptd have that in my life. >> r. >> reporter: lastly, we have another undecided voters here tonight. >> definitely bernie sanders. >> reporter: why is that? >> he's authentic, of the people, by the people, not of the wealthy, by the wealthy and for the wealthy. >> reporter: and you don't mind that he was a self proclaimed democratic socialist? >> no, that's what this country needs to a degree, some social justice in society and he can make that happen i believe. >> reporter: all right. just to share with you, jake, one lars tidbit, these folks were asked which candidate cares
most about you? it's very important to them. i will tell you hillary clinton took a deep dive in their answers from what they were asked before the debate that, same question, bernie sanders skyrocketed, jake. >> interesting. mike rogers, former -- with you a lot of raves on this stage, but let's talk about some of the tougher questions, what do you think were the weaker moments for bernie sanders and for hillary clinton? >> i think sanders had two moments that are problematic. i think on guns first he was knocked off his game. he didn't have a food answer there. he needs a better answer on democratic socialism. this is a question that will dog
his elect ability throughout this process. hillary had a great debate. one place she will have to improve her answer is on wall street reform. when o'malley and sanders came after her, she had an answer not where the democratic party s. it's overly complicated in the nuance sort of the moment we have on economic populism. >> congressman, there was not a huge amount of foreign policy in this debate. there was much more domestic issues,ing will harrisburg issue, hillary clinton's issue, she had an answer, a response to it. let's play that clip. >> i recall very well being on a debate stage i think about 25 times with then senator obama debating this very issue. after the election, he asked me to become secretary of state. he valued my judgment and i spent a lot of time with him in
the situation room going over some very difficult issues. you know, i agree completely. we don't want american troops on the ground in syria. i never said that, what i said is we had to put together a coalition. >> now, if she becomes the democratic nominee, it's very likely they will be going after her for her iraq war vote. is there anything you flaerd hem her on the foreign policy front should she make it to the general election? >> she has a lot to answer for, for her russia position. on the iraq war in the sense that now she is backing off of where she was right after two-thirds of both houses voted in favor of the war. by the i, what republicans and democrats. >> right. >> so i think she's going to have to thread this needle, what she was trying to do tonight for the democratic primary voters be you she is going to have a problem in the general election given the state of world
affairs. she's going to have to explain a lot of that. by the way, i think the biggest loser tonight was joe biden. i don't know where he goes now, so if he's even thinking about it. she had a great performance i think by presence, i think bernie sanders solidified the folks that love him. i don't think he grew a lot. i think that makes joe biden doesn't have a lot of wiggle room. >> you locked the door for him. can sanders continue to play so nice and get the nomination? >> look, i think bernie sanders has a strategy. >> that is to enlarge the electorate. to speak to the hopes and democrats and others. he doesn't have to go after hillary clinton or any other candidate to win vote or more support. what he has to, do he needs to explain his value system, socialist. what i like about bernie sanders is that he was able to go toe-to-toe with hillary clinton on issues where she's really
strong, a lot of the the mostic issues, i think also for a little on foreign policy. >> van, do you agree with that? do you think bernie can take down the front runner continuing to be nice and say what he thinks? >> i think at some point they will have a clash the way it is. i think it's very, very refreshing. first of all you didn't see the nastiness. i think that's so good, especially what's going on with republicans. if you are a young person watching this debate, you got to be proud of the fact that the young generation is pushing this party. the climate change is dead. yet the young people pushing that issue. plaque lives matter the young people pushed that party t. dreamers pushed the party of debt-free college. that's young people out there pushing this party to respond to them. i think the unsung heroes the winners tonight, that young generation, that black lives matter generation, they need to be proud tonight. >> anna novarro as somebody who
is supporting jeb bush, did you see anything on this evening that concerns you were you impressed by hillary clinton's performance or bernie sanders or anybody else? >> i was impressed. one of my take aways, i think dmc is crazy to limit debates and have a tight control on it. >> i'll say that. >> there is a very engaging, interesting substantive debate. really, it's amazing how many serious national policy issues can you get to when you are not wasting time on a debate stage talking about rossi o'donnell and going after the other candidates on that stage. i can tell you i am sitting here having a debate. we saw a master class on debating, a primary debate, practically everybody on that state especially a guy that compared himself to a block of granite, lincoln chafee, all of
them gave red meat to the democrat base, think there were no big debates, i find it a little awkward, when she said there is nothing that makes me more of an outsider than being a woman torque me, that's a little of an outlook ward response the majority of america, she came out of this unscathed. she came ready to give fire and take fire. >> don't go anywhere, up next, a reality check candidates, how do they stand up to scrutiny? >> first, another key debate moment. >> i think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. this has gone on too long. it's time the entire country stood up against the entire nra.
violence and what they think is more gun control. hillary clinton went after. that listen. >> we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence, this has gone on too long. it's time the entire country stood up against the nra. >> that is a very big number. few look at the last year for which the centers for disease control have complete numbers, it is largely correct, about 92 people per day in 2013. but this number also includes all suicides and all accidental deaths and all cases where we don't really know quite what happened. those distinctions do not make this distinction a less important issue but without them. they do make her statement true but at least somewhat misleading. the economy also on the mind for many people out there. that was something that bernie sandersped to talk about particularly in struggleing communities. listen to him. >> african youth employment is
51%, youth unemployment is 36%. >> boy, those are whopping numbers out there. huge numbersing look at. that 61%, 30%, big numbers, problem is, those would be the numbers that would represent under employment. if you are actually looking at unemployment the numbers from the government are much, much lower, 21% and 13%, that's still a problem, yes, his numbers are wrong. his statementing would have to be false. martin o'malley wants to talk about what happened when he was the governor of the state of maryland with the economy there. take a listen. >> we raised the minimum wage, ininvestored in infrastructure, went four years in a row without an increase to college tuition. >> numbers say that's largely true. what he did not say is to do that, he made a lot of republicans and county executives angry because he had to take money from a transportation trust fund to cover budget shortfalls. >> that makes his statement about all of this also true but
misleading. wolf. >> all right, tom foreman, thanks very much. let's bring in our chief national correspondent john king. he's here with me with our analyst gloria borger, david axelrod and our senior reporter malika henderson. let's listen to what hillary clinton said when she asked whether she was a progressive, a moderate, a democrat. listen to her answer. >> i'm a progressive, but i'm a progressive who likes to get things done and i know how to find common ground and i know how to stand my ground. >> what did you think of thattancer? >> it's an inclusive critique of sanders, she's the pragmatist. he's the wild haired progressive. i thought in that way it's great. she can bring people together. it's sort of a critique of sanders, she's saying his agenda
is too far to the left. it contradicts this other idea she is enemy number one of the republican party. so in that way i think she's trying to accomplish many things i things in that answer the take away we will hear as her being a pragmati pragmatist. >> at the same time she said her enemy is the gop, the republican party. >> so this is sometimes i don't know if it's intellect chum consistency, sometimes she's competing in a democratic primary. other times she's mindful of the election where she goes into battleground states, one of the interesting questions hoy could get things done? senator says the maybe we'll get the house of the senate back if
he has been around, can somebody named clinton no matter how hard she tries bring someone to the table? it's an interesting proposition. a lot of people think he tried, didn't try hard enough. his excuse, his answer is every time i stick my hand out, they bite my finger. this is a constant issue in our politics going back sometime about the polarization. can she get things done? >> it's also criticism of bernie sanders, though. because her criticism of him, at least from a campaign trail has been, okay, you want to provide free college tuition. well, how do you pay for free college bernie sanders said i want to tax the fat cats. tonight she didn't go after him on that particular point which i actually expected her to do. >> david, it was interesting to see, we will point out that bill
clinton, he could work with the compliance on welfare reform. he did manage to do that. >> bernie sanders said he can get elected. he can do what no one else can do, bring in new voters. he will bring them into the process. easked him specifically about health care. i said, bernie, you and i were there. we couldn't even get a public option. i pointed out a majority of americans don't, so you know he's impugning to the american people some positions that he has that they don't share. >> and there was a moment in the debate when jim webb took a pretty big swipe at bernie sanders when he said, listen, the bernie sander's revolution isn't going to happen, congress
isn't going to pay for your agenda, a toss away, a line, it got at the heart i think at the implicit critique clinton is trying to exact. >> the other three candidate the second tier, shall we say, did any have a break through moment that will generate more support? >> ily the governor o'malley had a strong night. where does he grow with that? i think he's impressed a lot of people. did he change sander's numbers or clinton's numbers? my gut reaction is to say not much, if any, if you are jim webb or lincoln chafee after tonight. >> it's hard to fight yourself out of asteriskville. we have a lot more to discuss, also what impact did tonight's debate have on vice president joe biden. is there room in this contest for joe biden? stay with us.
candidates. he is live in a place we like to call the facebook lounge. >> all the kids are talking about it. seriously, i want to show what you all the kids are talking about. we asked people to vote, live vote during the debate about who they thought was winning, who is winning the date on foreign policy in check this out. 59%, think sanders, 26%, clinton, webb, 10%, who is winning the debate on economic issues? mr. sanders, a whopping 72%. you see the rest of the numbers there. chafee comes in last. who is winning the debate overall? we asked this question in the live voting on facebook, here it is, there you go. 75 percent, that is by a huge margin that they believe that sappeders was winning the debate. also the person here who i think distinguished themselves, it goes back and forth between o'malley and webb, webb made a difference on the bottom three
candidates polling the least. then this one is from facebook. we talked about a conversation, what are the kids talking about? the candidates are talking about the most, bernie sanders, hillary clinton, jim webb, martin o'malley, lincoln chafee. these two were in the top with 15 and 40% the rest fall somewhere in tweerngs i think jim webb obviously comes up ahead of o'malley. here you go, the issues people cared about most, according to facebook, racial issues the economy, government ethics, the environment and guns. and here is the moment we asked what was the biggest moment on facebook and thered is, bernie sanders is sick and tired of hearing about hillary clinton's dam e-mails. the biggest moment discussed by far by everyone and got the biggest reaction, of course, jake in the room as well. >> all right, let's bring back our xhernttators commentators. one of the things you did was try to get the white house more 21st century dealing with the
facebooks and the twitters. >> the facebooks. >> napchats all the inner webs. so how much stock would you place on a facebook poll like that? >> i don't think the facebook poll will tell you what the entire country thinks about or all the viewers, but it will tell you that -- it's a measure of enthusiasm. it shows sanders had engagement. >> look at that number, 75%. nobody has come close. >> i think it's a sign that he has struck a chord, which is why he has those crowds out there. and that's what is getting people into show up at his events is what is people getting to react to him on facebook. >> the intensity of support. >> that's his comparative advantage with hillary, his support is more enthusiastic. it's not big enough yet to be a legitimate nomination. >> that is very important, especially when it comes out in caucuses, congressman rogers, we
were talking during the break, you think that the gun debate that we heard on the stage this evening is potentially alienating for whomever goes on to win the nomination. explain. >> well, if you have the majority of americans, about 52%, even despite the shootings you saw around the country, don't believe they want moore gun control. they enenforcement of gun laws. >> that's specific. you won't get that number without them. then you have to do the math around the country. have you conceal carry states that are very pro gun. you saw i think bernie sanders trying to navigate that saying you have to understand i had a very rural district. he was trying to make this difference and i think this could be trouble, problematic. >> it used to be a third reel in democratic politics, it's not a third reel. >> that's right. we're not talking broke politics. >> we now say a guy who talked about people who cling to their
religions and their guns. >> obama, it's fair to say, he didn't run on gun control. hillary clinton is making it a much bigger issue. >> look, you are talking to moms, families the american people are tired of us not being able to solve this problem, closing the gun loop home, making sure we have background checks. we're talking now mental health. this is the right time to have this conversation. >> one of the things i think going on is usually when something terrible happens there is some response from america's government, even if it's modest or ineffective. the fact that there is no response in the face of this many funerals, i think there may be, we'll see, into that general election a built-up of desire for someone to do something. i think she may benefit. i think you are right, though, it is very easy for democrats to underestimate in the red states where i grew up how concerned people are about gun grabbers. >> what other risks she may be
taking in a general election is a benefit in a primary election. she cannot ignore the fact and take advantage of the fact that this is probably the one issue where she is to the left of bernie sanders. she's got a progressive problem. >> this is being used against bernie sanders by her supporters? >> absolutely. it's the right thing to do in general. we are now, exactly, in a place now where if there is a voter who is going to make guns their litmus issue the democrats have lost that. that happened in the last election cycles t.nra is not a rights organization. it is an arm of the republican party who no matter what the positions of the democrats are in this election the republicans will run, the nra will run, they have been asked all of the democratingic senators who voted against the background checks in the last election the nra has done everything they can to feed them. >> red state drots lost in 2012?
>> 2014. >> it wasn't on that issue. there was a whole host -- >> the nra gave them no quarter for having voted against backgrounds checks. >> before the debate, bernie sanders said he wasn't pre patienting. i think that's one of the moments it showed he hadn't prepared. his answer on the gun issue was frankly a little clumpy, his answer on socialism was a little clumpy. everyone should have known these questions were coming. if he had done role playing or more preparation it would have shown. what do i know? he has 75%. and he's speaking. >> on facebook. >> to people who want to be heard. they are tired of politicians going out there complaining about the political system themselves. bernie said we have to take on the political system. that's resonating with the clouds. we have a cnn reality check back after this break.
been digging at the claims, seeing that tom foreman has another reality check for us, what else are you finding out? >> bernie sanders is in a rural state with a lot of gun owners. he has been accused of defending gun manufactures, lawsuits, did he do it, he said, of course not. >> where you have manufacturers and gun shops knowingly giving guns to criminals or aiding and abetting that, of course, we should take action. >> the problem is back in july he said something very different to cnn. he said you koontd hold gun manufacturers responsible because their gun was used in a crime any more you would hold a hammer company responsible if somebody hits somebody over the head with a hammer. we have to say his statement tonight was simply false. hillary clinton denied that she has flip-flopped on key issues,
the trance partnership first. listen to what she said. >> i did say when i was secretary of state three years ago i hoped it would be the gold standard. it was just finally negotiated last week and if looking at its, it didn't meet my standard. >> so now she is against that deal. she also denied changing her position on the 63 stone xl pipeline. very explicitly. >> i never took a' on keystone until i took a' on keystone. >> i never took a' on keystone until i took a position on keystone. as a member of the obama administration she strongly supported, she said it was the gold standard. no that she hoped it. the changes made to it largely addressed the remaining concerns and yet now she's against the deal. as for keystone pipeline, yes, she never explicitly said that she thought that this was a good idea. she did say she was inclined to
report it. technically her statements were true, but they were misleading is what she said tonight. if you want to know more, go to cn in.com/reality check. washington. >> we will do that, thanks very much. let's go back to jake. jake. you are getting more reaction to this debate tonight. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. we have all sorts of ways to get feedback. we have partnered to see how the odds for victory may have changed. hillary clinton apparently according to pivot not only is the odds on favorite to twin nomination. her odds of winning went up. they increased 5% during the debate. bernie sander's odds fell by 1%. joe biden's odds fell 4% during the debate. you can take part in pivot and cnn politics. check out this race and many more, by going to
cnn.com/predict. let's get some final thoughts now from our commentedtators. anna novarro, final thoughts on the debate. key moments or what you will be looking forward to going forward? >> my final thought is i am very, very glad lincoln chafee became a democrat. we're not taking him back. >> the left left, not the other way around. >> listen, criminal justice reform is the only issue discussed favorably both by the republicans in both their debates and in this debate. we have had a break through. people like newt gingrich, cory booker, rand palm have come together. they have changed the calculation. >> that is going to be something you see going forward. it's the first time you seen both political parties in a generation moving i think in a more humane smart direction. >> hillary clinton said something along those lines in the debate. final thoughts. >> i think the democratic party proved we can have a substantive debate with candidates disagreeing without being
disagreeable. also, it was quite entertaining in the question is can you have more than -- >> i have to give kudos to all five candidates. it was a great night for the party and a great night for america. >> it raises an important point. >> why are you trying to put me on the spot? >> you will have her -- >> there is this question whether or not there should be more debates. anna said earlier, that this seems to help. >> i yield my time to my -- >> don't fret over it. >> we should have more debates, chelsea gabbard was right. we should have more debates. >> you can join ler in hawaii on that position. >> it's not a bass place to be. >> i would watch one. going forward. martin o'malley had the opportunity to join the sanders movement about the e-mail problem. he didn't take it. he said ethics is important. it will be interesting to watch. if he's going to try to take a bite out of that lead, he's got to be more aggressive.
if he doesn't do it, i think she sames into an easy victory, if so, there will be a rough sailing ahead. >> dan, your final thoughts, what do you think of the longevity of the e-mail controversy issue, do you think that with congressman kevin mccarthy comments as well as bernie sanders assist with hillary clinton, do you think this is going away? >> i think it was never going to be a problem with hillary clinton in the democratic party. it would be a mistake for a democrat to raise it. with sanders, the gentleman you interviewed this past weekend. >> a former staffer. >> saying there was a partisan investigation, that has helped her. how she does in her testimony next week will determine how this is done or if there is another discussion of it. i think it will be a non-issue. >> my final thought is, there is all the discussion we need in this debate is how would people celebrate from president obama? where were they poxd against? you saw all the candidates embrace president obama and
embrace his agenda, people aren't running, they know that the path to the nomination of the white house including runs with the obama coalition, you sthau tonight just one thing, i agree with dan, i think the real concern isn't the benghazi portion of this you have an fbi investigation and you have more dumping of e-mails. no, i'm just saying she has something to worry about. i'm not making it an issue. >> they're not interested in finding out what happened to benghazi and the four americans. >> i'm not arguing -- >> they're interested in trying to bring her -- >> we will continue to discuss this issue on plenty of cnn shows if you missed, lets me go back to wolf blitzer back in the crow's nest near the debate stage. wolf. >> excellent discussion. good work, jake, good work to the entire team and an important note to all of our viewers out there, few missed any of
tonight's debate, you can stay with cnn, see the first democratic faceoff. once again, that's coming up next. cnn's new day" bins at 5:30 a.m. eastern. i'll be back tomorrow. we'll have a lot more analysis. much more reaction coming up. i'm wolf blitzer here in lough for jake taper and all of us on cnn, thanks, very much nor joining us.