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this is cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. great to be with you. what a night. what a day after. we begin with the most watched democratic debate ever. more than 50 million people tuned in to cnn as five presidential candidates duked it out in vegas. you noef, as oftentimes what happens in vegas stays in vegas, perhaps this is not the case. this one with the shortest odds here coming out on top. many observers including donald trump are declaring front-runner
hillary clinton the winner. still many on social media claim bernie sanders was the victor and the man many wanted to see on the stage vice president joe biden just said this moments ago. >> i thought every one of those folks last night did well. >> while about 10 million fewer households tuned in to the democratic rather than republican debate. politicos are saying democrats showed way more class compared with the mudslinging seen in the other party's debates. in fact, the best line of the night wasn't even a dig on hillary clinton. it was a rallying call, a gift to end the questions about her use of that private e-mail server when she was secretary of state and it came from her top rival. >> but tonight i want to talk not about my e-mails but about what the american people want from the next president of the united states. >> let me say this.
let me say something that may not be great politics. but i think the secretary is right. and that is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too! me, too! >> you know? >> that got a standing ovation at the debate hall. i have with me from las vegas our senior political reporter nia malika henderson and brian steltzer who is also hosting our show "reliable sources." great to see you the day after. stelter, let me turn to you and say, how many viewer snz. >> over 15 million. brooke, i didn't want to admit this before the debate, baugh i was thinking maybe if cc wassy they'd have 8 million or 9 million. i thought that was way too high. the bosses we're at cnn were lowering expectations. after all, donald trump helped bridge in 25 million viewers in. there was baseball games, all
these reasons to think the numbers may be 5 million to 10 million. 15 million is a record for democratic party in history. you think about in 2007, 2 million or 3 million. the highest rated debate ever on cnn for a democratic debate, 8 million. the idea we have so many people tuning in for a trumpless debate, something is going on. it's not just trump. it's hillary clinton. we shouldn't underestimate what a star she is. she's attempting a comeback w. we saw her so close to the nomt nation in 2007. she's coming back. bernie sanders has a big fan base and we saw them, too. >> huge tune-in factor for the candidates. you say trumpless. i feel like we need to say foet footnote, but many are watching the live tweeting. with donald trump presence, love him, hate him, somewhere in between, i'm wondering if he's making people tune in. >> there's a trump halo effect. there's something about his
presence in the political primaries at all, republican or democrat that makes people care about this entire election cycle. we've heard about the angry voters supporting trump. they're not just on the republican side. they're in the middle and on the democratic side as well. these are voters who tuned in last night because they want to see change, what the politicians are going to do. when you see 15 million viewers watching a debate 14 months before an election, that means something real is happening in the country. >> yes, thank goodness. brian, thank you. nia, you were there. let's just go tluf, we asked you to choose two high points from the debate last night. what were they? >> reporter: well, i think two of the highlights came with hillary clinton and in some ways they were courtesy of a man who didn't necessarily present himself well and many people think shouldn't be on that stage and that is lincoln chafee. he went after her and essentially said that her iraq war vote disqualified her from
the white house. she had a good comeback to that when she said, listen, we debated that in 2008 and my president, president obama, thought my judgment was good enough to name me secretary of state. i thought that was a good, crisp exchange she had. but it came up again when he tried to sort of point to ethical lapses and her judgment. here's what she had to say in response. >> we need someone that has the best ethical standards as our next president. that's how i feel. >> secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> no. >> there you go. >> brooke, i'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "by phylicia." i think in many ways that's what that was, delivered with a death hand, sort of a soft touch. it was dismissive, but it wasn't nasty. i thought that was a good most for her.
and of course the crowd ate it up in that moment. and she had a lot of other good moments i thought as well. >> what about the low points, nia? two of your low points were? >> i think one of the low points for sanders was he isn't quite sure on this answer about socialism. he mentioned denmark on hillary clinton i thought had a good response basically saying, i love denmark. this is america. this ain't denmark. then lincoln chafee, right? lincoln chafee saying, listen, i was new to the job, my father just died, i didn't have my stuff all together and i thought that was disqualifying. i think many will be surprised if he's on the next debate stage for the next kind of clash between the democratic candidates. >> nia malika henderson, thank you so much. excellent assessment live in las vegas. here's the other part of the story, joe biden. joe biden may have watched the cnn democratic debate last
night, but he won't be influenced by it when it comes to if he chooses to run for president. this is what a senior democrat source close to him is telling cnn. in fact, some biden insiders say the key factor here in the vice president's decision is whether biden would forever regret not running. let me bring someone in who is trying to get him to run, the executive director of the accountability project. we've had you on before. you love some joe biden. >> i love joe biden. >> do you think, though, watching hillary clinton, truly when you listen to everyone soar last night, do you think that will make it more difficult for biden to say, you know what? i want in? >> the democrats did an extraordinary job laying out the issues that represent the democratic party in 2015 and 2016. democrats don't have a problem unifying. that's the question. what we do have a problem with is unifying the country. there's only one candidate in my mind that has a rapport with the republicans and democrats and is polling well republicans who beat all of the republicans and that's joe biden, pre-and post-deba
post-debate. and in going back to what lincoln chafee just said, the quote about when i first entered office, when joe biden just after his family had died first entered office in the senate, the first issue he championed way back in the '70s was campaign finance. and that was an issue that bernie sanders kept bringing up over and over and over again last night. and i think that's the issue that's really going to separate hillary clinton from bernie sanders and hillary clinton from the rest of the pack. >> so do you think this would encourage him? >> you know, it's really his decision. i want him to run, and i think that he's the most viable candidate. after watching that debate there is still a lot of room to grow, still a lot of issues that haven't been represented on the democratic side. and i a he thes an incredible debater. >> what issue would he have tackled last night? how would he have differentiated himself from the other five? >> i think he would have been a little better at explaining foreign policy issues, having been there in the white house next to barack obama. i think he would have explained how barack obama improved the economy. >> hill i clinton was secretary of state, jim webb was navy
secretary under reagan. >> there are significant differences between joe biden and hillary clinton on foreign policy. they ended up coming together and working together and they have a rapport and that's great. buff joe biden, his son was in the military and he didn't want to rush into the iraq war. he did vote for it, but he wanted a different solution, he wanted to split iraq into three parts which at the time was questionable but now all military experts are saying that was the way to go. >> quickly, fresh off a plane from vaugs, a lot of betting there, if you were a betting woman, do we know within seven days? over/under? >> over. >> thank you so much. coming up next, hillary clinton says she is most proud that her biggest enemy is the republicans. might that comment at the debate actually hurt her come general election? also, donald trump may be going after democrats, but breaking today the front-runner is
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. question, could one of the most lighthearted moments from last night's debate end up being hillary clinton's deadliest? anderson cooper asked the candidates, who is the enemy you are most proud of making during your career? o'malley, the nra, sanders, jim web, the guy called on the battlefield in vietnam. this was clinton's response. >> in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans.
>> i've got sally kohn with me, daily beast and sherry. lovely to see both of you. you think of the crowd and obviously that last line, sherry, saying the republicans were her enemy got a huge, huge applause. but come general election time, will that comment come back to bite her? >> it could hurt her. this can be played on a loop. this country, we're about 50/50. in the end it's going to be the independents or people maybe some republicans who want to go a different direction. maybe they like the fact they's a woman. she kept repeating that. but she's going to neefd republican votes in order to win. lines like that don't help her. >> she's shaking her head. >> it sounded like off the cuff. >> go, sally.
>> she was making the point that first of all she's a fighter and it does help her with the primary. even republicans and independent vote hers know what she means. they're talking about a republican party hell bent not on substantive debates but just destroying hillary clinton on the upteen billion benghazi hearing, the e mill servers. >> no. hillary is her own worst enemy on the benghazi situation and the e-mails. what she really needs to do since she lost a lot of women support this summer, she needs to be basically trying to make as many friends as possible. >> let me just -- wait wait wait wait. when the head of the republican party -- one of the heads of the republican party admits the millions of dollars, almost a dozen committee hearings, thousands of pages of documents on benghazi alone was just to damage hillary clinton politically, the american people don't want that. >> we're not going to have time
for benghazi. we have a whole segment on that. let me pivot back to you. let's talk about socialism. this was question number two out of anderson toward bernie sanders. we knew how it had to be asked, how would he explain socialism to the 15 million americans watching last night. here was his response. >> what democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1% in this country own almost 90% -- as much wealth as the bottom 90%. when you look around the world, you see every other major country providing health care to all people as a right except the united states, and i think we should look to countries like denma denmark, like sweden and norway and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people. >> hillary clinton's response and i'm paraphrasing, i love denmark, but this isn't denmark. this is the united states of
america. my question is, if he were to get the nomination, should republicans start measuring drapes in the oval office now? >> no. i mean, first of all, almost half of americans have said they would consider voting for a socialist president, number one. his definition is different than the textbook definition. it doesn't mean state-owned this or na. >> do you think people got that? >> i don't know. that's why we have debates. but what haes more important, if you take the words out of it, when they took a poll of americans and said, which type of economic inequality dao you faifr, do you favor when 1% of the country owns 84% of the wealth or something that looks more like this, this other diagram actually being sweden in this case, 89% of americans say we like the economic distribution of sweden. are they going to say they like socialism? no. but they like the results. >> bernie sanders is a socialist. he's there so it makes hillary seem a little less socialist, makes the democratic party -- he has to make some people happy because you have socialists in
your party. that's fine. but now we all know it. >> that's an inaccurate and cynical view. >> he is there to make hillary seem a little bit more palatable to moderate folks. >> no e.'s there because american people are fed up with the economy that works for only a few people. this is about people being tired of a political system on both sides that favors the status quo, that favors big business, that favors wall street and hurts small business owners working people and average americans. >> but people want the government to get out of the way so that they can make it on their own. >> look at the polling data. >> the redistribution of the wealth line that obama was -- >> i didn't know we were having a debate. working people do better when a democrat is in the white house. >> that's what i'm talking about. socialist is a democratic party after the obama presidency and a secretary of state will probably be the nominee. >> at least now the republicans know what a real socialist is as
opposed to accusing obama of being one. >> so quickly, donald trump was live-tweeting during the debate. i don't know if it steered people who wouldn't normally watch to watch. bottom line, i'm curious and would love to hear from you as to love him, hate him, is he making people care? this early on. 15 million people watching the democrats last night. dow think people are more engaged in politics of because of this man? >> no, i don't -- i think they're looking at him as sort of the clown show situation. donald trump announced with the help of all the media hyped up the fact that he was going to be live tweeting throughout the night. all he did is re-tweet and very few tweets of his own i. think he has trouble following the substance of the democratic debate just like in the republican debate. >> we agree! >> in the republican debate on cnn he stood there for 20 minutes without anything to say. so the big twitter star last night was mike huckabee. >> i'm glad you went there. >> whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. >> he was interesting, funny. >> if you weren't following
along, this is a huckabee tweet. quote, i trust bernie sanders with my tax dollars like a trust a north korean chef with my labrador re-tweeted 7,600 times. >> first of all, i think so many people turned out to the democratic debate because they are actually interested in democracy and interested in a party that's going to solve the inequality and the wage stagnation that ae's hurting americans number one. number two, when mike huckabee when he ran for president, he wouldn't obey the supreme court, if that didn't disqualify him enough, tweets like that which are borderline zeen aphobic -- >> there's all this faux outrage. mike huckabee won twitter last night. good for him. we're all talking about it. good for huckabee. >> cheri and sally, i appreciate it. >> healthy debate.
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man they say tried to stab several officers. ben wedeman is standing by live in jerusalem with the lacest. ben, what more do you know? >> reporter: well, just refer to the attack in the bus station, which is really just up the street from here. we understand from the israeli medical service that the woman wounded was 72 years old. she was stabbed in the upper body on a sidewalk just outside the very busy central jerusalem bus station. when that happened, a bus driver helped her onto the bus to provide her some assistance. he closed the door in order to prevent the attacker who apparently is a man in his late 20s from the east jerusalem superb. now, when the attacker -- when this happened, the attacker went in a different direction, started running up the street.
bystanders obviously seeing this happen started to shout and police quickly arrived on the scene. and, as you said, according to a statement by the israeli police, they neutralized him, we understand that he has been killed. and that of course just happened about 2 1/2 hours after this incident at damascus gate, one of the main entrances to the old city of jerusalem where a palestinian man, according to the israeli police version of events, was acting in a suspicious manner. he was approached by border police. of course, the number of border police and normal police in that area has been beefed up dramatically. when they approached him, they say he took out a knife and when that happened the police opened fire. however, he was able to run away from that group of police, encountered another who shot him, according to eyewitnesses, more than a dozen times, right
in front of the gate itself. in procet the process, however, tourist was lightly wounded. that tourist was treated on the scene. a local resident more seriously wounded and in the hospital. brooke? >> ben wedeman, we'll stay in close contact with you. thank you so muchish sir. coming up next, one of the best parts of analyzing the debate, optics, body language, style tactics. who was the most awkward? who stood out? a debate coach joins me next. plus, tension hitting a high during a battle over gun control. we'll talk live with the parents mentioned during the debate sitting in the debate hall in vaugs la vegas last night as bernie sanders was called out. give same day delivery.
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poise. passionate. polished. just some of the words to describe hillary clinton's performance in last night's cnn debate. what about the four men who were hoping to steal some of the spotlight from the democratic front-runner? how did they do? emory university debate director ed lee joins me now live from atlanta. ed lee, you have to enjoy these debates so much. and i know we've talked to you about pick something of your favorite moments, favorite for good reasons and maybe not so great reasons. let's just go there, beginning with lincoln chafee and his response, this is when anderson was talking about his vote to deregulate banking. >> governor chaffey, you've attacked secretary clinton for being too close to wall street banks. you voted for the bill to make banks bigger. >> my dad had died in office. i was appointed -- >> are you saying you didn't know what you were voting for? >> i just arrived in the senate.
i think we get some takeovers. that was one of my very first votes. it was 92-5. >> with all due respect, sir, what does that say about you, you're casting a vote about something you're not too sure about. >> i think you're being a little rough. i had been mayor of my city. my dad had died, i had been appointed to the governor. it was the first vote and it was 90-5. >> so my heart goes out to him, ed, but was that one of the worst debate responses you've ever heard? >> yes, absolutely. there is this huge conversation that was going on about trustworthiness and whether or not politicians have integrity. and one must wonder whether this was such a thing as being too honest as a politician. and i think that we definitively have come to the conclusion of yes. lincoln chafee was far too honest about what led him to make that particular vote. you have to be able to improvise. you have to be able to explain
away poor votes and explain away poor decisions. hillary clinton did a fantastic job all night doing that, and i thought that maybe lincoln chafee could have learned a little bit before he got to that answer. >> from lincoln chafee, let me ask you about jim webb. we'll call him the time guy. watch this. >> first ever all -- >> can we just have a discussion at p some point? trying to get into this conversation for about ten minutes. i've been waiting for ten munns chb . unless somebody mentioned my name, i can't get into the discussion. there hasn't been equal time. >> i understand the man knows the rules. he wants more time. he's frustrated. but should he have pointed that out, like, 17 times last night? >> the most amazing part about this is it was ten minutes every time. >> right. >> no. you have to be able to figure out how to insert yourself into the conversation without being the bully. it felt like jim webb was simultaneously being picked on
and same tiensly bu tainsly bul mod ratter and explaining why it was anderson cooper's fault that he couldn't control the room and couldn't express himself when in fact it's the debater's responsibility. it is his responsibility to figure out the appropriate time to insert himself in the conversation. and he failed miserably. >> i kept thinking about the "saturday night live" sketch writing itself before our very eyes on that one. highlights, ed. how about that big gift, a standing ovation moment in the hall last night, the enough about the damn e-mails, the hand shake with hillary clinton? >> it was fantastic for both of them, but i think it was clearly a tremendous win for hillary clinton, that she humanized herself. it showed a tremendous amount of humility. and it was great for the party also. it indicated that the two top candidates at this point had a place in which they can come together in the name of debate, deliberation, and giving the public what they want, issues and policy-based discussions. >> but was it good for bernie
sanders? >> yes. i think it was because he had the notion of being sort of cantankerous, someone who is hyperaggressive and mean. and it showed that he was willing to not for the sake of winning political points but for the sake of doing what is in the best interest of the public to try to move the conversation forward. so i thought it was great for him as well. >> final question, staying on senator sanders, how do you think he did with the question, how do you explain to the american people why they should elect a self-proclaimed socialist? >> i think i may have found this a little more attractive than some being a debate coach. but being able to control the narrative of your audience in defining the terms of engage am, he defined the notion of socialism in a way that most democrats would agree with. let's give health care. let's reduce poverty in the country. let's have more economic equality. and understanding socialism or democratic socialism in that way, it sounds far more
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bernie sanders is about as liberal as they come on most issues except guns. last night he explained at the debate why he voted to protect gun shops. >> do i think that a gun shop in the state of vermont that sells legally a gun to somebody and that somebody goes out and does something crazy that that gun shop owner should be held responsible? i don't. on the other hand, where you have manufacturers and where you have gun shops knowingly giving guns to the criminals or aiding and abetting that, of course we should take action. >> so that was senator sanders last night. but then you also had former senator martin o'malley specifying names in that audience responding with a very specific example of who this law hurts. >> here tonight in our audience are two people that make this issue very, very real. sandy and lonnie phillips are
here from colorado. their daughter jessie was one of those who lost their lives in that awful mass shooting in aurora. now, to try to transform their grief, they went to court where sometimes progress does happen when you file in court, but in this case you want to talk about a rigged game, senator? the game was rigged. a man had sold 4,000 rounds of military ammunition to this person that killed their daughter riddled her body with five bullets and he didn't even ask where it was going. not only did their case get thrown out of court, they were slapped with $200,000 in court fees because of the way that the nra gets its way in our congress and we take a back seat. >> he just mentioned their names, and here they are joining me from las vegas, sandy and lonnie phillips, following their daughter jessica's death in aurora, they have made it their life's mission to travel the country and make progress on gun
violence prevention. thank you both for joining me. welcome. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us. >> before we get to your case and what governor o'malley specifically said, i want to hear from you two. why did you want to be there in that debate hall last night? >> well, we've been pushing for this topic to be part of the debate since 2012, and nobody would discuss it. so when we saw that governor o'malley was pushing for good commonsense gun laws and that hillary was getti ting on boarde really wanted to be here and support that. and when governor o'malley called and said, i really would like you to be my guests, it woz like, we'll be there. we're there. >> i think, sadly, everyone is aware of what happened in aur a aurora, but i think not as many people are aware of what happened to you all with regard to this case. you sued one of the aurora
shooter ammo dealers but not only did you lose the case and lose your daughter, but you owe $200,000 in legal fees. >> we were hit by two laws, the federal fica law which was enacted in 2005 which forbids the suing of ammunition and gun manufacturers and retailers. if you sue them, then it's going to be thrown out because of that law. and then colorado has a law that says if you have a dismissed case under that law, that you have to pay the opposing attorney's fees. that, of course, was meant to keep anybody from suing and pricing lawsuits out of the market. we're not rich people so what it does is take away our civil rights by not allowing us to sue because we don't have the money to sue. so that law is, in our opinion and if it ever makes it to the
supreme court which we hope it will and soon, will be declared unconstitutional. >> and that's what a lot of that exchange was over last night. i just wanted to make it crystal clear to people who are watching. and sitting in that debate hall in las vegas watching those five candidates on stage, i know you were invited by governor o'malley, but who in your opinion is strongest on gun reform? >> well, out of the group, governor o'malley is. and i think he's been successful in pushing the other two to at least discuss the issue. that's what we're thrilled about because it's never been discussed before on a national stage. so, you know, the republicans have the nra agenda as part of their platform so this is really great to be able to say the democrats are on the side of gun violence prevention in this country. and that's important for the american people to hear. it's not about taking guns. it's not about banning guns. it's about having safety measures in place so the wrong
people can't get their handzus on guns to begin with and we'll start seeing a reduction in gun deaths. >> but we just had a win, a big win, in a badger case in milwaukee where proves that if our law had not been -- if our case had not been dismissed, that we could have won, just like the badger case was successful. so we need to get rid of these laws that keep people from suing gun manufacturers, gun dealers, ammunition sellers. >> i think if most americans realized that for someone to be able to buy 4,000 rounds of armor piercing bullets by a click of a mouse that doesn't even require a license, doesn't even require any i.d., that's not good for any of us. >> sandy and lonnie phillips,
great to see you all last month in washington. thank you so much for taking the time today. i truly appreciate it. >> thank you, brooke. we have some breaking news out of las vegas. not at all related to politics. it's about this guy, former nba player and kardashian czar lamar odom found unresponsive at a brothel. we are getting new details about his condition and what happened moments before he was found. plus, the interview we have been waiting months for. ivanka trump, donald trump's daughter, sits doupd with my colleague poply harlow today to discuss her dad's campaign. we hear from ivanka herself. stay with us. can a business have a mind?
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more people, you need a step change or breakthrough ingredient. this is the world's oldest source of nutrition, being repurposed today to solve today's problems. >> former nba star lamar odom now at a nevada hospital. the former l.a. lakers and sixth man of the year was found unresponsive inside of a well-known legal brothel in nevada. the owner of the love ranch said staff members dialed 911 after finding the 35-year-old laid out in his private suite. >> we came in, called 911. 911 said put him on his left side. and they did, started throwing up. he was still alive. ambulance came. police came. took him to the pahrump, nevada, hospital. they immediately said this is not looking good, and we need to get him airflighted into las vegas to sunrise hospital.
>> former l.a. lakers teammate kobe bryant reportedly rushed to that hospital. the team was in vegas last night on exhibition. fans and other nba players have been flooding social media with worry. khloe kardashian is at his side. what are you hearing as far as how he's doing? >> what his condition is we're not exactly getting a specific word from the hospital where he's being treated. he's still in the hospital. but we are getting some details from the reverend jesse yak son who visited him today. brooke, according to what reverend jackson saw, he isn't able to communicate yet. he isn't able to speak. he is breathing with the assistance of machines. he has a tube in his throat. and as far as how he's doing versus yesterday, jesse jackson said compared to how he was yesterday he's a bit more responsive. that's what he's hearing from the doctors. so there is a bit of better
news, brooke. >> do we know why he went to this brothel ranch? >> from what we hear, brooke, everything we're getting is from the owner of the brothel. and what he says is that he was reached by odom on saturday and that odom said he just wanted to get away and that his health was quite good. he had been there for several days, and it wasn't until yesterday about 6:00 a.m. according to the brothel owner that he fell asleep. people who were with him, the employees in the brothel who were with him, left. they returned hours later, some nine hours later, that's when they found him unresponsive and that's when 911 was called. >> kaung law, thank you so much in los angeles. top of the hour, you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin.
i want to begin with the most watched democratic debate ever. we now have the numbers. more than 15 million people tuned in to cnn as these five presidential candidates duked it out there on the stage at the wynn hotel in las vegas. and as often happens in las vegas, the one with the shortest odds comes out on top and many observers including donald trump are declaring front-runner hillary clinton the winner. still, many on social media claimed it was bernie sanders coming out the victor. and the man who many wanted to see up on that stage, vice president joe biden, he said this today. >> i thought every one of those folks last night did well. >> senior washington correspondent jeff dell ane now joining me from las vegas. i know you have done all the reporting on joe biden, hillary clinton certainly riding the wave. let's begin there. what is she doing the day after the big night? >> reporter: well, brooke, first and foremost she's relaxing a
little bit and finally sort of enjoying this moment of getting her campaign really back on track. and kind of getting it back to where most democrats thought it would be sort of driving this race. but she's also doing some campaigning of her own in nevada. nevada is one of those four early voting states. it goes iowa, new hampshire, then nevada. she's not spent as much time out here. she'll be addressing union rallies later on today. she's also doing some television interviews later today with some swing states voters who are not here with some swing state stations i should say. she's really trying to capitalize on that really good moment last night. her campaign feels pretty good about it. but it's not her show alone. i mean, bernie sanders certainly held his own, did very good in fund-raising overnight e.'s also finding more supporters and if you came into that rally a bernie sanders supporter, that debate, you certainly left it aid bernie sanders supporter. it's far far far too early to say it's only hillary clinton's
and hers alone. >> maybe hillary clinton getting some relax time, her husband bill clinton already using her performance bringing in money. did i see a subject line wow wow wow there? >> you did. wow wow wow. and bill clinton of course was watching this debate on cnn with more than 15 million other americans. he didn't want to take away from her attention in the room. i'm also told that he didn't want a camera on him. he wanted to be able to see this in the privacy of his own home e. sent out this e-mail. last night hillary knocked it out of the park. she didn't just talk about big ideas she laid out plans to get them done. that's what hillary does when she sees a problem to fix. she gets people together, takes on the tough fights, and finds her way to a solution. so, brooke, this is one of the biggest signs yet that bill clinton is becoming more and more invested in this campaign. we're going to see him out there fund-raising more. we're going to see him out there campaigning more for the clinton campaign. this is a new phase and she'll be campaigning throughout the next several days and into the weekend. >> jeff zeleny, thanks so much.
let's also mention this name as part of our coverage, donald trump, the republican front-runner holding a rally in virginia. he will be doing that without secret service protection. trump says he's getting bigger crowds than the president but they don't, quote, give a bleep about trump he says because he's a republican. this is coming in as new cnn poll numbers show trump is once again way ahead of the pack. look at the numbers for yourself there. in nevada, he gets 38% of the vote among likely republican caucusgoers compared with 22% for the man chasing him, the closest ben carson. trump also holds a double digit lead in south carolina. but let's focus in on the secret service complaint. i have our justice correspondent evan perez with that. does he have a point? when do candidates get that kind of protection? >> well, brooke, nobody is ever going to accuse donald trump of not knowing how to get attention. he certainly has gotten it with these comments. but here's the deal. it's a little more complicated
than that. simply because the way secret service protection is assigned it usually happens after the department of homeland security has consulted with senate and house leaders. tls's a whole process that is involved here. most candidates don't get protection by this time in the election cycle. not with 11 declared candidates or whatever the number is on the republican side. it's certainly not usual to get it. barack obama did get protection early simply because, again, he was a historic candidate. he was someone who was already getting a lot of threats. he was getting large crowds. so the secret service woshed with his campaign to authorize that much earlier. but at this stage, usually most candidates do not want this protection simply because it gets in the way of them campaigning and being able to touch voters. so i'll give you a couple of things that the secret service says is part of their criteria. you can see it on the screen. candidates have to be announced already officially, they must be prominent in the polls which
obviously trump is. they must be campaigning and entered in at least ten state primaries and have received donations or contributions of at least $10 million. donald trump says he's going to finance his own campaign so perhaps that's not going to apply to him. we're still a little ways away from really where the secret service starts looking at this. keep in mind, back in 2012 at this point herman cain and rick perry were topping the polls as late as thanksgiving. newt gingrich was topping the polls on the republican side. so we still have some time to go before the secret service gets to doing this. >> despite that, though, he wants it. donald trump that is. evan perez, thank you so much. >> thanks. not only did donald trump say hillary clinton won the debate last night, but he added that bernie sanders lost an opportunity to attack her about her e-mail scandal. what is more, when you talk to some of these politicos in the know, they say sanders put pressure on the other candidates not to mention it.
check out these highlights. >> i'm a progressive, but i'm a progressive that likes to get things done. and i know how to find common ground, and i know how to stand my ground. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too. me, too. >> you know? >> this committee is basically an arm of the republican national committee. >> i think we need someone that has the best in ethical standards as our next president. that's how i feel. >> secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> no. >> secretary clinton, is bernie sanders tough enough on guns? >> no, not at all. >> which enemy are you most proud of? >> in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans.
>> with me now, the author of "a woman in charge: the life of hillary rodham clinton," carl bernstein. you were chuckling along watching that mash-up. there was some funny moments there last night. but overall the effort mat of hillary clinton. you wrote the book on her. how did she do? >> the conventional wisdom is right. she did great t. was a great night for democrats it's clear sailing if there are no other shoes dropping. >> aka -- >> it could be anything. but right now she as got breathing room. it's very difficult for joe biden to get into the race after what we saw last niest. >> he says he won't be swayed by what he saw last night. >> again, i don't know what that means. but it's difficult for him compared to what it was like a year ago. a week ago. no question about that. >> it was standing ovation the whole bernie sanders enough with the damn e-mails and the handshake with hilary clnten. what did you make of that snf he gave her absolution in terms of the party.
there had been a lot of anger in the party because of hillary's lack of being forming coming about the server. as you heard me say here, benghazi is a witch hunt. server question have some legitimacy in terms of her truth telling. but now it will have a different context, certainly in terms of the democratic party and it's going to make it much more difficult for republican attacks to stick, particularly after kevin mccarthy also giving her aif kind of backhanded absolution by saying, yes, this is a witch hunt, as it were. >> and you've been strong on that. i'm wondering based upon what hillary clinton said, she just said in the mash-up that the benghazi committee is an arm of the rnc, do you think we saw -- >> that's virtually true, but the real question about the server is, what will the news media do? what are the legitimate stories? what is the fbi investigation going to produce, if anything? but she has disarmed for the
present, along with her gift from bernie sanders -- >> when she testifies? >> i think she'll have a lot more to say. what we saw last night that's particularly good about hillary clinton is, when she's on the offense, has some wind at her back, she's terrific on the issues. she's very smart on her feet. and she did it last night. you heard me say earlier, he's going to make a monkey out of that committee. that's my guess. but we've got a long way to go. we're still three months before the first primary, and at the same time what we saw last night was a difference between two parties that shows you the great advantage if hilary clinton can stay untarnished the democrats have in this election because of their articulation of the issues, because of where they stand, and again remember this appeal for middle class voters who are hurting, there are republicans saying the same
thing. >> right. >> their issues are somewhat disarmed part of the right wing by this brand of, quote, progressivism. >> what about, carl, you know living in washington for forever. >> i live here but i'm there a lot. >> we look at you and we know of your historic reporting there. my question is, we just actually learned, jeff zeleny was talking about bill clinton capitalizing on his wife's performance last night, putting out e-mails trying to raise money. i just heard from my producer that the bernie sanders campaign manager just said that they have raised $2 million just since last night. >> bernie sanders has done an amazing thing in this campaign. he has defined where it is going in terms of the issues. he has moved hillary clinton toward these progressive positions that she might not have otherwise taken quite so unequivocally. and he's got a real chance of beating her in iowa, in new hampshire. so it's a big, big deal. at the same time, she has got
the money. she has got the apparatus. she has the history. if her supporters do not abandon her, if these issues of trust don't come to haunt her, she should have a pretty good road to the nomination. but we're still a long ways off. >> carl burn steen, come back. we'll talk again. >> will do. >> i want to read you a quote now from a review of hillary clinton's debate performance. quote, she was in short a man among boys. really? let's talk to some powerful ladies about that line. plus, the interview so manufacture us have been waiting for. ivanka trump sitting down with poppy harlow today to discuss her father's campaign. breaking news out of jerusalem. another woman stabbed, the second attack today. we will take you there live. you're watching cnn.
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this is the trump interview that so many people have been waiting for. not the trump you're thinking. the other one. ivanka trump. you've heard donald trump talk so much about his daughter. rarely does she speak out and rarely does she speak so openly about her father. she sat down exclusively with my friend poppy harlow. >> i just landed to be with you. >> what did she tell you? >> you know, it was fascinating. i had met her once before about five years ago and remembered how impressive she was as a business leader. now she's in the spotlight, of course, because her father is running. and so much focus has been on his campaign. she is an extraordinary businesswoman in her own rights. we talked a lot about that. we talked about the empowerment
this women who work campaign that she launched to encourage women from everywhere to follow their dreams at the fortune most powerful women summit. but we also talked about what it would be like for women in this country under her father. so let's role that. >> what would a president trump do for women in this country? >> he would be amazing for women in this country. he would be incredible for women in this country. and he's starting to articulate his positions. it's not my place to articulate those for him. i'm not part of the campaign. i'm very busy, and he's kept me very busy working alongside my brothers and running the organization now that he's taking this step in terms of his efforts to try and make this country great again, as he says. so i'll leave policy to him, but i can speak from my vantage point as a child and also from my vantage point as a colleague and someone who works for him.
he's been an amazing parent. he's given me every opportunity to succeed. he's been loving and supportive. he's pushed me. he's corrected me. he's disciplined me. and i think as a parent now myself i appreciate how hard that is more than ever before. >> so great to hear from her. it is interesting she's not involved in the campaign because being at the republican debate, she was like second row going up to talk to her dad. >> right. >> on commercial breaks. you can tell they're close. >> they're very close. that did surprise me a bit she made it clear she's not involved in the campaign. clearly she talks to her father. i think he preshz and looks to her visa lot. but she's not very involved in the campaign. we'll see if that changes. what stood out to me also, she told the "new york times" two years ago she understands when people say perhaps she's gotten this far in part because of her name. she says, i don't blame them. but i said to her, actually, a lot of people that are children of successful and wealthy and
famous people do not succeed as much. she said, there are two paths you can take. you can either take the one where you let it impair you and you're so scared to fail or you can go for it. and she went for it. so that was fascinating as well. we also sat down at the summit with a whole lot of very powerful women, ceos, watching the debate last night. they erupted at that bernie sanders moment about the e-mails. >> yeah. >> we asked them what they thought about the debate last night, and that full piece is on ac 360 tonight. i want to play you part of this. this is ann marie swatter who used to work with hillary clinton at the state department. >> the moment i just loved was when hillary clinton said to bernie sanders, i appreciate your passionate intensity, but -- and then went on to deliver a nice factual data-driven, concrete, pragmatic and low-key proposal. and just as a woman who is definitely passionate from time
to time, i've been so often sort of it's the way you dismiss a woman, you say, i appreciate your passionate defense of this. passion equals not serious. passion equals you're a girl. you're not really serious. so to hear hillary clinton say to a man, i appreciate your passionate intensity, but here's the answer, i just loved it. >> and wait until you hear, brooke, what one of the women who is a big clinton supporter told me she'd like to see. i'll give you a hint t. a a republican on a hillary clinton ticket. >> poppy harlow, thank you so much. make sure you watch her full interview tonight with erin burnett 7:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. thank you so so much. coming up, it is a question the candidates have been confronted with before, certainly whether black lives matter or is it all lives matter? we'll look at how they answered that question from facebook and reaction they are getting today. also ahead, the middle east. is it reaching a tipping point?
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just in to cnn, the u.s. and russia right now finalizing an agreement on air safety as bombs fly over syria. a u.s. official tells cnn the agreement would happen soon and it comes just a couple of weeks after russia began its military campaign against isis and rebel forces in the war zone. also this today, a deadly wave of violence in jerusalem. it is escalating. the israeli government now has deployed hundreds of troops to stop these attacks. there were two new assaults today, authorities shot and killed a man they say tried to stab several officers at the damascus gate. and hours later a 72-year-old woman was stabbed near jerusalem
central bus station. she is in serious condition. israeli police killed her attacker. and cnn spoke to witnesses who were there who described the scene. >> i was sitting inside. i hear screams, girls were screaming. stairway, stairway. is the suspect here? he was killing two, three girls in one minute. shoot him, shoot him. it was very panicked situation. we think everything is hard we wait for these things. it's happening. maybe something else. see all the authority of the police here. everybody and they're still doing things. maybe they take five, six people
and they separate them. you can't live normal in this life. it's unbelievable. >> cnn senior international correspond enlt ben wedeman is in jerusalem. ben, tell me what more you know about how this happened, how is the israeli government responding? >> reporter: well, we understood that what happened was this woman, 72 years old, was walking on the street right next to the central bus station of jerusalem and normally a very crowded and busy place when this attacker who is a resident of east jerusalem in his late 20s stabbed the woman in the upper body. a bus driver nearby saw this happen, brought her into the bus, and then closed the door to stop the attacker from going again at this woman. when that happened, the attacker
ran up the street pursued by people in a crowd as well as police who, in the words of the police here, neutralized him. we understand he is dead. now, the israeli security cabinet met with the prime minister benjamin netanyahu well into the early hours of this morning to try to come up with measures to put an end to this spate of attacks in jerusalem and elsewhere in israel. they've given the police the authority to close palestinian neighborhoods in east jerusalem. we understand that several are in the process of being put under closure as we speak. in addition to that, hundreds of additional troops and policemen have been deployed in jerusalem and elsewhere in the country. there's talk of revoking residency rights of attackers and confiscating their property. but it was after these new measures went into effect that
these two incidents happened. so there's question as to how effective they will really be and from reading the israeli med media, it seems to be the case that most people simply feel these measures are insufficient given the level of violence at the moment. brooke? >> we'll be watching to see how those measures do play out if they are sufficient or not. ben wedeman, we'll follow your reporting very closely there in jerusalem. thank you so much. thank you so much. next, a mysterious murder investigation. six members of the secretive church arrested in a teenager's apparent beating death. you'll hear what police say was the motive there. also, hillary clinton playing the gender card last night at the democratic debate to huge applause. we'll break down how women's issues played out on stage. become the only thing you think about.
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just past the bottom of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. you know, more people than ever watched this first face-off between hillary clinton, bernie sanders than any other democratic debate in history. one of the hottest topics here, would a hillary clinton presidency look like barack obama's. she invoked president obama to defend her foreign policy record. but one characteristic sets them all apart. here's what she said. >> i think being the first woman president would be quite a change from the presidents we've had up until this point, including president obama. >> hillary clinton repeatedly reminded viewers that the united
states is indeed ready for a woman president. but how did that resonate with female voters? joining me to talk about this, she is back, cnn political commentator sally kohn. she just can't leave. >> i can't get enough of you, brooke. >> salso rachel sklar. ladies, a pleasure. the fact that hillary clinton, to you first, mentioned the fact that she is a woman in different contexts, both in her open, in her close, saying she's an outsider for that very reason, was that clever? how did that fall with you? >> she wasn't going to hide it. i mean, we know hillary clinton is a woman. we know that's an issue. we know she would be a gra groundbreaking president should she be elected. how else to address that head-on, there's really never been a better time to be running for president as a woman. never mind a smart, qualified woman such as hillary clinton.
>> well, i mean, listen, what i love is when it's sort of oh, hillary plays the gender card. when the male candidates lean on their laurels and don't have to prove as high a bar in terms of their credibility, their record, nobody calls that playing the gender card. when white candidates have the presumption -- raich will elle is exactly right. it is true. and also hillary didn't run on gender in 2008. she deemphasized it. i think it plays to her advantage this time twice. first of all, she learned from 2008 but second of all she realizes people want a change candidate, right? this is a change election. hillary clinton has a lot of non-change like things attached to her. this swun thing where she can say i'm a change candidate. also, she needs to sell her authenticity. she is a powerful, assertive feminist, a proud woman, strong on women's rights. that's part of her brand. >> i know we're all women but allow me to play the devil's advocate.
>> go ahead, play the man. >> i'm not playing the man. playing devil's advocate. she has said recently in a "time" magazine article about carly fiorina saying she and carly shouldn't get a pass because they're women. she wants to be treated as a candidate on the stage. did she really need to bring up that she is a woman, that she would be the first woman president? >> i just don't understand why this is really an issue. she is a woman. we all know she's a woman. we all know she would be the first at the male president. we all know -- the fact she is a woman arguably didn't make an impact on what she said on stage because she's the only person who mentioned reproductive rights, the only person who mentioned planned parenthood. i think her gender is relevant in so far as it gives her a window of experience. hillary clinton has been a candidate -- let's say she's been a candidate for the last eight years, right?
s she's certainly been an expert on matters of women's rights since 20 years, 25 years since the beijing speech. and this is an area that she is very good on. >> and she's differentiated herself from the other woman in the race on the other side of the aisle who is carly fiorina. >> she's differentiated her because she's a democrat. >> here it is. >> it's always the republicans or their sympathizers who say, you can't have paid leave, you can't provide health care. they don't mind having big government to interfere with a woman's right to choose and to try to take down planned parenthood. they're fine with big government when it comes to that. i'm significack of it. you know, we can do these things. >> if you're a woman on the fence, how will that resonate? >> if you're a american, seven out of seven americans agree that abortion should remain safe and legal in the united states. most americans also don't want to see this ridiculous waste of time going after planned
parenthood in congress for manufactured smearing videos. she's exactly right. she's also right about the substantive point she made, which is really profound, that republicans say they're against big government. they're against big government when it comes to mep's bodies and men's health. but when it comes to women's bodies and people of color's bodies and certainly women of color's bodies, poor women of color, they want government all up in there. you take drugs? you're charged with criminal endangerment of your fetus. we could go on and on and on. >> in the 60 seconds i have left because i was following twitter as i was watching last night. some people exploded with the dana mill bank "washington post" article. this wasn't the headline. but dana millbank, many wrote -- praising her performance. but wrote, she was a man among boys. >> the way to praise a woman is to be able to compare her to a man. >> you did so well, you're almost as good as a man. >> it's ridiculous.
the standard of competence and excellent performance is not being like a man. that was ridiculous. i can only assume that dan millbanks was trolling all of us. >> he we have to be clear. i think dan admitted he blew that, although the fact that he -- he shouldn't have said it in the first place. >> editor ought to have caught that and said, you know, if you're trying to be cheeky, you are failing. >> also, i'm going to be honest. hilla hillary, you know i'm not a supporterer, but her performance in the debate was amazing. let's get to a point in america where we can say, wow, all the male kabd dands should aim to be as good as that woman. >> how about she's an excellent candidate and leave it at that. >> that works for me. >> rachel and sally, thank you very much. strong, strong. next, black lives matter. two candidates said that out loud, those three words on the debate stage. did they back it up with policy? we'll talk with one of the leaders of the movement if that conversation helped her choose a candidate. the promise of the cloud is that every organization
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they have been face to face on the campaign trail, democrats running for president and black live matter activists and at times it's been combative, contentio contentious. but last night some of the candidates were asked this question from a law school via facebook as to whether or not black lives matter or all lives matter. >> black lives matter. and the reason those words matter is the african-american community knows that on any
given day some innocent person like sandra bland can get into a car and then three days later she's going to end up dead in jail or their kids are going to get shot. >> when i ran for mayor of baltimore, and we were burying over 350 young men every single year, mostly young and poor and black. and i said to our legislature at the time when i appeared in front of them as a mayor that if we were burying white young poor men in these numbers, we would be marching in the streets and there would be a different reaction. black lives matter, and we have a lot of pork work to do to reform our criminal justice system and to address race relations in our country. >> so that was senator sanders and governor o'malley. as for hillary clinton she wasn't asked directly on that question, but rather what would she do for african-americans that president obama could not. here is what hilary clinton said. >> we've got to do more about the lives of these children. that's why i started off by saying we need to be committed to making it possible for every
child to live up to his or her god-given potential. that is really hard to do if you don't have early childhood education. if you don't have schools that are able to meet the needs of the people or good housing. there's a long list. we need a new new deal for communities of color. >> i have with me now cnn political commentator and "new york times" columnist charles blow, also joined by aerial marie, an activist who participated in last week's black lives matter meeting with hillary clinton. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> charles, let me turn to you. some folks took to twitter, some within the black lives matter movement, said disappointed. hillary clinton's moment to officially say black lives matter, say those three words, and they were disappointed she did not. do you think that matters? >> well, i think it would have been more of a disappointment if she had tried to cover it to say the all lives matter as a
substitute for black lives matter. i mean, what's really important to understand about this is the implicit meaning of black lives matter is that black lives matter, too, and just as much as other lives. and we would like to live in an america where all lives matter equally, but we do not. and that it is -- it is therefore important and in fact necessary to emphasize the lives that america appears to value less. and therefore we have to keep saying black lives matter until they matter to america as much as all other lives. you know, if she had tried to kind of get around that, i would have said it would have been a problem. however, i do believe that what she was saying was really important. what was kind of more dodgy to me was o'malley's answer, quite frankly, which was, you know, in one part because of what he did in baltimore and if you go -- >> because he had said all lives
matter. he sense has apologized. >> but you talk to people in baltimore about what he did about what he was saying all these lives being taken and his incredible crackdown on civil liberties and incarcerating a lot, a tremendous number of people, sometimes arresting a lot of people and the prosecutors not even being willing to prosecute the cases because they're like, this is just too much. and him trying to stretch all violence that is happening within black communities to kind of overlap with what is happening specifically with state force against black people. >> ariel, you were watching those exchanges as well. your reaction? >> you know, what disappointed me about clinton's statement and the way she answered the question that was thrown her way is when we sat in the meeting with clinton last week she called racism america's original sin. that was important because we know the language around racism and white supremacy in america is important when we're trying to find strategies and ways to deconstruct racism and the way
that racism has been institutionalized. and so for kind of be able to answer a question around that is really rooted in racism and how can we attack that on the institutional level within the state, within the government, for her to not name racism, for her to not name the communities that we have left behind, namely black and brown communities, was disappointing to me. i was however very much encouraged by the way sanders was able to say definitively without any need for prompt that black lives do matter. it's very important that we are able to say that not just in quiet meetings, not just in the alleyways of conversations. but to a broad very varying audience that i believe as a candidate for president black lives do matter. i mean to make that aware in my policy and political strategy. >> moving off of that, charles, i'm wondering some people have pointed out there was a lack of diversity lastz night. when you look at what the
republicans all stretched out 11 of them a couple weeks ago you have a his 357bic, woman and african-american, last night you have a woman and all white. does that bother you? >> in the first debate you had jindal. don't discount that. i think the republican party has done a great job of putting forth candidates this time around that reflect more of a diversity of america. not necessarily diversity of thought, but diversity of kind of backgrounds. and that is really important to always see. the democratic party just does not have that deep of a bench. and i think we have to as a country look to the democratic parties to say to them you have to come up with candidates who reflect america. particularly if you are going to be the kind of campaign as the party of inclusion and have a base that is incredibly diverse. needs to reflect that level of diversity and that is kind of disappointing to look up and see
that. >> ariel, do you disagree? >> i think it's much more important for candidates to look at the way they can diversify their platforms. diversify how they mean to seek, look out and take care of america that is in fact diverse. i don't think you have to be a black woman to advocate for black women. i don't think that you have to be a black man who grew up in america to understand what it means to create policy that protects black men. and so when we're looking at solution-based policy, to protect and to eradicate rather racism in america it's not database policing. it's not, you know, what hillary says on her website, we need to urge americans to deal with hard truths. no, we need to create. we need to institutionalize eradicating racism in a way that creates a safe and protected diverse america. >> ariel marie, charles, thanks for getting here from syracuse after big talk this morning. thanks to the two of you. i appreciate it. >> thank you, brooke. coming up next, this
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the parents of two teenagers are now charged with manslaughter after meeting inside their church turned physical. police say one brother was killed in the assault and another is now in serious condition. four other members of this church, this is in upstate new york, they have also been charged in this beating. investigators are now looking into whether this so-called congregation was really a church at all. neighbors say the activity inside their building which was once a school has been mysterious. >> they're really systematic about how they come and go. there's one person standing at the door of the church. there's one person standing at the gate. and there's one person driving the car and it all gets locked
at once. they don't make noise. you don't see them. it's just we know there's people living in there, but you don't know what's going on in there. you don't know any of their names. they don't come out and talk to you, nothing. >> jason carroll is joining me now live outside of it looks like some sort of official town building here. i guess their news conference wrapped up a little bit ago. what are officials saying? >> reporter: well, brooke, an incredibly sad story and bizarre story. police here now saying they know exactly who was responsible for the beating and why it happened. under arrest and charged with manslaughter bruce and debra leonard. those are the parents of the 19-year-old lucas leonard. they are charged with manslaughter for brutally beating him and severely beating his 17-year-old brother christopher. brooke, they're saying this all came to light on monday. apparently both of the brothers were brought in for some sort of a counselling session at the church located not far from the
police station here. and following that counselling session things turned deadly. >> during the counselling session involving lucas leonard and his brother christopher, the session turned physical. both brothers were continually subjected to physical punishment over the course of several hours. in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness. >> reporter: obviously a lot more to be learned here from what happened inside that so-called church. the word of life church, which is what it's called, bruce and debra leonard facing manslaughter charges. but they're not the only ones facing charges. brooke, there are four other church members also facing charges including the brothers' sister they are facing lesser charges. again, much more going on with this particular case here. many here in this community calling this church a cult
although police are saying they would not call it a cult nor were some of the other neighbors we spoke to out here. certainly a number of people in this community do believe that church was indeed a cult. brooke. >> jason carroll in new hartford, new york. thank you so much for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. it's the political hangover. today we try to piece together just what the neck happen happened last night in vegas. i'm jake tapper. this is the lead. the politics lead going to the score cards after fight night in las vegas. hillary clinton's campaign riding high after a strong and steady performance in last night's d bait. but it's another candidate who may have literally hit the jackpot, actually not literally, figuratively. but why bernie sanders has a lot to celebrate today. the world lead, chaos and panic in israel after two more terrorist stabbing assaults in one of the holyist cities in the world is another middle east conflict