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second live hour of 360. we begin with an exclusive interview with ivanka trump. the republican front runner with double digit leads over the next close opponent dr. ben carson in nevada trump is polling at 38% to carson's 22%. everyone else single digits. south carolina, trump is leading with 36% to carson's 18%, again, the other candidates are trailing in the single digits. trump mentioned these new poll numbers and brought up last night's democratic debate. >> we're going to talk about the debate, anybody watch it last night? yeah. and i tweeted, i tweeted, can you believe? and i made a commitment, i said i tweet so i couldn't turn it off. i had to tweet this thing. and somebody said on one of the networks, the winner was trump
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because we picked up 160,000 followers. can you believe it? 160 -- [ cheers ] >> and second place was a lot less i will tell you that. >> recently mr. trump said we would be hearing and seeing more of his daughter on the campaign trail. we caught up with her at the most powerful women's establishment. her exclusive interview with poppy she dismissed the criticism her father faced over controversial comments about women and their looks. >> we're at the fortune most powerful women summit and michael c michael cohen said 57% men and 43% women but there are more female executives than male in the trump organization. how can we see that translate across corporate america so more women are at the upper echelon.
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>> it's important and companies not prioritizing and ensuring women are at all levels of the organization and this disproportion of men versus women and gender inequality, you know, anyone who is thinking in those terms and whose not being very proactive to ensure there are companies being thoughtful about the getter mission is simply going to fall behind. so i think it will be a self-selecting thing. in ten years from now, the companies who haven't evolved will not be the companies that they are today and, you know, i think my father recognized this a long time ago. i wouldn't be the person i am today, i wouldn't have the ambition, the drive, the passion, the commitment to what it is that i'm doing both for the trump organization and for my own brand if he hadn't encouraged me and emboldened me, given me the confidence that i could do whafr it is that i set my mind to accomplish if i had
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the vision, the engineergy and passion to match. i think really it's leadership is about action, leadership is about setting an example and he's very much done that within the context of the trump organization and it's why my brothers and i are equally at the same level at the highest ranks within the context of that company. >> you've started women who work. it's an initiative you push to empower women at all levels to work and follow their dreams but found an increasing amount of american women are staying home from 23% in 1999 to 29% in 2000 and some of that is part due to rising child care costs. what's your message in this campaign to those women? >> so my campaign is about the fact that women are working at all aspects of their life and i think there is this tendency to talk about working women, the working woman. there is this character of what
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that looks like. we represent 50% of the population. we're all working at different things and have different priorities and those priorities change through the course of their lives. my priorities today with a mother of two and one on the way are different than ten years ago and will likely be different ten years from now. i really wanted to create a brand celebrating the tact that women are a multi dimensional, we're all working hard at architecting the lives we want to live and lives that are consistent with our personal priorities and i do think there is this unfortunate and prevailing depiction of the working woman as wearing a black pantsuit and being solely focused on her per professional role and that's just not true, and hopefully, i can be a small part of changing the narrative around what it looks like to be a woman who works today and that's the purpose of the campaign. it's not to tell people they should work or they shouldn't work. it's not to push people in a
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certain direction. it's to celebrate the fact that we're all figuring it out, we're all working very, very hard. i know for example, i'm for exhausted on a monday morning after a weekend home with the kids than i am on a friday afternoon. i work really hard during the week. so it's really about just enabling and supporting women in ark teaking this ideal life for themselves. >> your father points to you telling him that he has been on the campaign trail really quote misunderstood on his views about women. he has said some things about women that have shocked many people, about carly fiorina, he said look at that face, would anyone vote for that? about megyn kelly's questioning him in the first fox debate, there was blood coming out of her wherever. what was your reaction to that? >> i think a lot of sensationalest around this is a ork stated largely by the media. my father is very blunt, he's very direct. he is not gender specific in his
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criticism of people and people that he doesn't particularly like or people that he does like but thinks they are wrong on a particular issue. so, you know, i don't think that he's gender targeted at all. like i said, i wouldn't be the person i am today, i wouldn't be a high-level executive within his organization if he felt that way. so he's always supported and encouraged women and truthfully, he's proven that over decades through his employment practices, through his hiring practices. >> what would a president trump do for women in this country? >> he would be amazing for women in this country. he would be incredible for women in this country and he's starting to articulate his positions. it's not my place to articulate those for him. i'm not part of the campaign. i'm very busy and he's kept me very busy working alongside my brothers and running the organization now that he's taking this step in terms of his
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efforts to try and make this country great again, as he says. so, you know, i'll leave policy to him, but i can speak from my vantage point as a child and all right from my vantage point as a colleague and somebody who works for him. he's been an amazing parent. he's given me every opportunity to succeed. he's been loving and supportive. he's pushed me. he's corrected me. he's disciplined me. and i think as a parent now myself, i appreciate how hard that is more than ever before whereas 15 or 16, i was a little less impressed by how tough he was and how strict he was with us as children as a parent now, i see just how hard it is to raise children with drive and with passion and with energy who have a well-set moral compass and he did that for me in his
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role as a father and as an executive, i've seen what an unbelievable leader he is. he's the most formidable negotiator i've ever seen and i've seen a lot of great negotiators. he is also somebody who really encourages people to achieve at their highest level. he is -- he sets very high goals for everyone that works for him and works with him but really he helps them raise the bar for themselves in terms of what they want to accomplish. >> what are your business goals for ivanka trump? >> for-reaching goals. my goals are less specific and more general now. i want to continue to grow the trump organization footprint throughout the world. we have a hotel company, the trump hotel collection which i'm in incredible proud of that is
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growing. we have many property openings coming here in washington d.c. with the old post office building and iconic building on pennsylvania avenue. vancouver and many, many others in the pipeline for the years to come. so i think the opportunity on the hotel side and real estate side is huge and i almost don't want to limit myself by giving a specific, a specific goal that the growth potential there is enormous. in terms of my own business, i really feel like it's in its infancy and it's just getting started. i'm creating product in many categories that's been very well received that i'm deeply proud of and looking forward to other opportunities in other categories and international markets to grow that brand. of course, my most important priority, my family is growing and hopefully will continue -- >> congratulations. you are five months pregnant. >> i am five months pregnant. >> your third.
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>> with my third. >> congratulations. >> it's an amazing time and exciting time for me and my personal life, as well. i feel incredibly blessed and incredibly fortunate that i'm so happy personally and professionally and i hope that always continues. >> you are very good friends with chelsea clinton and she gave a recent interview and said quote, i love ivanka and she said that both of your parents running potentially against each other near a general election has not affected your friendship. how do you guys navigate that? do you not talk politics? do you talk kids? >> it has not been an issue for us. i have great respect for her. she's been a great friend to me, i've been a great friend of her. >> i asked a lot of the women here at the summit and i sat down with a group of them after the debate last night, i know you watched. what did you make of the debate and who do you think would be the most formidable candidate
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against your father leading in the polls? >> i thought the debate was excellent. i thought the debate was interesting to watch. so i enjoyed watching. like i said, i'm a business person, not a politician, so i'll leave politics to other members of the family and the many, many people who are involved in the race on both sides. so we'll see who emerges. >> ivanka trump, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> it's interesting, because you know, donald trump said that we're going to be seeing more of her and his wife on the campaign trail. she clearly doesn't seem to want to talk politics at all. >> no, it is not the impression i got leaving the interview. she didn't say i will not be on the campaign trail but at the end she said i will leave the politics to other members of the family. she said repeatedly, that she was not advising him on policy and that she was focused on her business and her third child is on the way. >> she did introduce him at the -- >> that's the last thing we
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heard from her very publicly. she introduced him. a lot of political pun dants say she would be a huge asset. >> very poised. >> very poised. i enjoyed the conversation a lot but did not get that sense. interesting what she said about chelsea clinton, the friendship has not been hurt at all by this and you think if the parents are facing off in a general election, would that strain the friendship? i actually don't think so because these are two young women that have grown up not spotlight so much they had to create their own identities aside from their parents and this doesn't change much even if they go head-to-head. >> poppy, thanks very much. up next, we'll check into an event where bernie sanders is speaking and how he thinks the debate went. we'll be right back. more "sit" per roll.
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two live events going on now, bernie sanders in los angeles and hillary clinton just walked out to start her speech. first, let's listen to bernie sanders. >> and we've got to go even further than that. i am a passionate believer in a very radical concept called democracy. [ cheers ] and you-all know, you-all know that in human history democracy is a pretty new idea, couple hundred years old and yet, what
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we are seeing right now is a result of citizens united, is a situation where the coke brokoc brothers alone will spend more money in this campaign cycle than the democratic or republican parties, when you've got one family spending more money that either of the two major political parties you're not talking about democracy, you are talking about something else. >> sanders campaign is getting a lot of traction from his debate performance raising nearly $2 million at about $30 a pop. his campaign manager is still in las vegas and joins me now. jeff, thanks for being with us. 24 hours after the debate, how does senator sanders feel particularly with the reaction from folks online raising a lot of money for your campaign? >> well, let me start, anderson, by congratulating you personally and cnn in general for hosting
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what i think is really sort of the gold standards for debate so far this year. a civil debate, it was substantive and i think you were rewarded with a tremendous audience of 15 million plus people. so congratulations to you. in terms of our campaign, we thought bernie had a phenomenal night. i think what is fascinating when you listen to the debate, the extent to which issues people were talking about are issues bernie sanders has been talking about. it's clear he's driving the agenda not only in the debate but campaign and people are responding. we saw in the focus groups cnn held, fox held that independent people held, voters felt bernie won the debate. the people thought he won. i think there was an overwhelming response online on facebook which was the co-spore son and we've seen the number actually is now higher, anderson. up to $2.5 million raised in
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connection. >> in the last 24 hours. were you surprised -- >> yes, sir. >> -- that secretary clinton hit sanders so quickly really right out of the gate on wanting the u.s. to be more like denmark and his record on gun control? she wasn't giving free passes early on. >> right, well, look, anderson, what we saw, he had the most memorable end of the night when he talked about her da manmn e-s and you saw senator sanders going big and presidential and secretary clinton, she had an okay performance, standard performance, i think did not take the same opportunities to go big when they were presented to her by you. >> do you think the calculous for joe biden would have been changed in any way based on what happened last night? >> no, absolutely not. look. the visit president is deciding, i think people are understand that the deadline is sort of approaching given the ballot
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deadlines, number of states and what have you but it's a difficult decision for him given his fall l family situation. i do not think what happened last night would have any bearing. this is dynamic. senator sanders is on the move going up in the early states. so i think it's a very dynamic situation. >> your candidate obviously drawing huge crowds in a lot of places he goes but he's polling extremely low among african american voters in key primary states, 4% compared to hillary clinton's support in south carolina. a critical state. to his credit, when you look at senator sanders record, he's been fighting for civil rights since the '60s. you know, just doing research on him, he led i think the first sit in at the university of chicago in order to desegregate campus housing. why isn't he with the record like that why isn't he doing better among african americans? >> well, you know, we are reaching out to the african
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american community. his record is not well-known in terms of his biography and in many cases the efforts that he has helped in the congress to fight for civil rights but we're working hard to get that message out. we're very proud that we have been enforced just this week by congressman keith ellison of minnesota who will help us bring our message of racial justice and economic justice to the african american community. i think you'll see improvements in the near future and while that may be the case in south carolina, i did see one poll in california where we were at 25% with african americans in that state. there may be differences from state to state, the african american community, and there may be differences from state to state. >> i know it's been a long 24 hours for you. appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you, jeff. >> thanks, anderson. >> hillary clinton is back on the campaign trail tonight. we just saw her speaking at an event in las vegas. let's listen. >> he wants people to understand economic opportunities that are
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available. you know, it is a possible if we invest in wind and solar advanced bio fuels, you name it, we cannot only begin to reverse the effects of climate change but we can begin to build our economy in a totally different way. you here in nevada are doing just that. you've got that big battery factory going in. you have been investing in more solar. in the hotel i stayed in before the debate i was looking out the window and i saw these solar panels driving around today going to different events, i saw a lot of places with solar panels. well, i'm setting some big goals for my presidency, by the end of my first term i want us to have employed a half a billion more solar panels to be installed across america. [ cheers ] >> and -- >> secretary clinton on the campaign trail. joining me now former obama
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administration official van jones and senior advisor of president obama dan pfeiffer. you heard from the sanders campaign, what do you make of their interpretation, the reporters thought hillary clinton had a better night but the sanders people saying not so fast. their candidate did great. they think their candidate won and the fundraising backs it up. >> you know, it's a very surreal experience for me because i sat on that stage last night and i look that the debate and said hillary clinton won hands down, she was better and did what she needed to do and saw the focus group, a flash back to when i worked for barack obama in 2007 and 2008. she would have a dominating performance. she won hands down and obama lost and the focus group would say obama won. that says both candidates probably did what they needed to do. hillary clinton winning is the front runner and came out stronger than before but sanders has a message that resonates not just with supporters but across
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the broad swath and his supporters who are incredibly energized before, which is an advantage over hillary clinton left even more energized. probably a good debate for both. >> what's the biggest short-term impact? does it dampen the prospects of vice president joe biden getting to the race? i was imagening him sitting there watching that. is the need for him among those, you know, who were concerned about hillary clinton? is it lessoned? >> look, i think that hillary clinton definitely sur lly sure her base. she looked like a wounded, that version of hillary clinton was put in the -- eclipsed last night by the version of hillary clinton that is the most political force in the united states right now. you understood watching her why she's such a force. at the same time today bernie
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sanders as you listen to ordinary democrats across the country, he struck a chord, i think we missed last night. i think we expected hillary clinton to come out maybe just be a policy wonk she was so passionate and we were happy to see this different version of hillary clinton. we missed something. bernie sanders on fire. you talk to ordinary democrats that have not given a penny n k nickel or time. he is on to something. i was in the airport today and i hear what i thought was bernie sanders voice on television. it was bernie sanders behind me in line on southwest flying commercial being mobbed by ordinary people. something is happening with this guy and i think we missed it last night. >> dan, do you agree with that? do you think he has a shot given, look, he calls himself a democratic socialist. do you see him getting the nomination in the democratic party? >> i think he has a shot, very long shot. he has to just not improve a
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little bit. he has to improve with huge parts of the democratic base and i think last night the one real -- he has two negatives, one was the answer on guns puts him out of the main stream of the democratic party today and second, he needs a better answer on democratic socialism. that will be a huge problem for people once they decide they want to pick the next president, not just when they want a candidate, not a cause he'll have to explain why he can be the nominee. >> what's really weird is why is he talking about foreign countries, he can just say listen, america is a hybrid system. they called the v.a. and medicare and medical -- social security, all been american stuff rather than talking about american programs, he's talking about foreign countries. that doesn't make sense. he somehow tapped a nerve and i think we'll see a lot more from bernie sanders than we expect. >> we did not congratulations you for last night. that was a great job.
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>> you killed it. >> appreciate it. >> dan pfeiffer, great to have you and van jones. debate performance not just about what the candidates say but everything from the way they walk onto the stage to the hand gestures they make. whose body language was most presidential? we'll talk to an expert. we danced in a german dance group. i wore when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. get started for free at
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. it's not just what candidates say that gets put under the debate microscope but also their body language. we spoke to an expert. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> even before any of the candidates uttered a single word, you learned a lot through how they came on stage. >> clinton walked out in the way that we would want any candidate, any debater to walk out. she nailed it. she walks with posture that says i'm in command here, i'm in control. >> what about bernie sanders? >> bernie walks with his head pitched forward. he's got kind of a fighter to him. he's ready to fight. >> one of the most talked about moments of the debate, if not the most talked about moment was
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this. >> i think the secretary is right. and that is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too, me, too. >> so a lot of levity here. you have his hands, you have her smile and laughter. what does it all tell you? >> it's a great moment for the two of them. they are connecting. it feels very real and spontaneous. bernie does that passionate thing very well. it's a great moment for her, as well because she's warming up. she's relaxing. it feels genuine. >> speaking of bernie sanders hands, he used them more than anybody. >> policy is tougher than yours? >> well, that's not true. [ laughter ] >> we bailed them out for being too big to fail. we have got to break them up. >> it's a good thing, raises the energy, creates interest, allows him to express his passion and
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shows us his palms a lot. that builds trust. >> we expected at some point of this debate for candidates to come out against donald trump. it happened here with parten o'malley. >> the immigrant haters like some we've heard, that barker and the republican party. >> to me that looked a little staged. he had prepared that line in advance and so his body language was a little out of sync with words. >> this was rather friendly but this was a moment where hillary clinton took a dig at bernie sanders regarding gun control. >> senator sanders, did vote five times against the brady bill. since it was passed more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. >> watch him. >> he also did -- >> licking his lip, moving back and forth. >> bernie feel as little uncomfortable. hillary has him on that point
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and he's squirming a bit. >> after watching that debate, if you had the sound down, if you were advising your clients, which of those candidates to emulate with their body language, which candidate would it be and why? >> there i'd have to give the nod to hillary clinton. she's the most presidential. she's the strongest. she's the executive in the room. bernie is a little too emotional. his hands get up there in the stratosphere too often while his passion and emotion command attention in the end, he's not a strong executive in the way that mrs. clinton is. >> that's all through body language. >> that's all through body language. >> gary joins me now. i was never a big believer in the body language thing but i'm coming around on it. the body language expert, what does he recommend for people making speeches. >> if you're running for president or speaking at a meeting, same initial tips.
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lean into it when you're talking to someone if you're behind a podium but don't put your hands like this. don't put your hands like this because that's aggressive or defensive. occasionally gesture like this and shows your palms and means you're open. also, everyone knows eye contact is important but when you do eye contact like this, it's good to occasionally nod because the person you're looking at feels like wow, they are looking at me and nods back at you and they get on your side and he says the best people doing that so far, hillary clinton among democrats and donald trump among the republicans. >> interesting. can we stop making eye contact now? >> we can stop. >> it's a little too intense. gary, thank you. up next, supporters of the confederate flag are indicted on terrorism charges. what led that to indictment coming up.
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what started out as a party in georgia ended in chaos.
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15 indicated. the group all white men waved confederate flags at black guests and spewed heated words. martin savidge reports. >> reporter: this is how it ended last july in georgia. cell phone video shows a convey of seventh pickup trucks with large confederate flags leaving after police were called to an outdoor children's birthday party. pay close attention to the truck backing upright here. it's hard to clearly see and hear what the person in the truck is saying or gesturing but the person recording definitely sees a threat. >> that's a threat! >> reporter: melissa alfred was hosting the event and she says when the trucks and those in them drove up it got ugly, with those with the flags brandishing weapons. >> they used the "n" word and said they would kill people on my property. >> reporter: the people in the pickup trucks are from a group called respect the flag, referring to the confederate flag. they even have a facebook page
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and give a different story telling a newspaper someone at the party threw a rock out them triggering the altercation. she says she was angry, police made no arrests. >> they can come back because they was free to go. they allowed these people to go. >> reporter: that changed friday when indictments were handed out by a grand jury against 15 members of respect the flag charging them with one count each under georgia's violation of street gang terrorism and prevention act and one count of terroristic threats quote with the purpose of terrorizing those individuals and in reckless disregard for the risk of causing such terror unquote. if convicted, they could get 20 years in prison. but does a group supporting a flag really constitute a gang? it was something the d.a. didn't want to discuss. >> i think it would be inappropriate for us to get into the facts and details of the case. i think that's better reserved
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for the courtroom. >> reporter: we attempted to talk to the group's leader levi bush but he turned us down. this happened over a month after the massacre of ten african americans in charleston. the self-confessed gunman posted pictures of himself with the confederate flag. many considered the crime a terrorist attack. >> martin savidge joins us now. have any of them been arrested? >> they have, actually. some seven people have been taken into custody booked into the county jail of which we're told at last count only two remain behind bars, the rest were able to make bond. bond in this particular case really doesn't seem to be that high. anywhere from 6 to $9,000. there is no word yet on if there is going to be a trial or exactly when would all 15 be tried together or individually but when that trial happens, it could be very, very interesting, anderson. >> martin, thanks for reporting. to upstate new york in a
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mysterious death investigation at a church. authorities say two teenage boys were beaten, one killed and other hospitalized. tonight six people are charged with manslaughter including the boys' parents and sister. >> reporter: it was supposed to be a house of worship, this former school building home the a church with a small following called the word of life church. police say after those sunday services, two young members of the church were brought to the sanctuary for a counseling session to discuss their spiritual state, 19-year-old lucas leonard and his 17-year-old brother christopher. >> the session turned physical. both brothers were continually subjected to physical punishment over the course of several hours in hopes that each would confess the prior sins and ask for forgiv forgiveness. >> reporter: no word on the sins but the 19-year-old was beaten so badly, police say members of
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the church brought him to a hospital where he later died. his 17-year-old brother remains in serious condition. their parents, bruce and debra leonard were arrested and charged with first-degree manslaughter, both pleaded none guilty. four other church members were arrested including the brother, sister, sarah ferguson. they also pleaded not guilty. the beatings have prompted questions about the church and its members. >> we would have never in a million years guessed anything was going on or wrong or there was before the troopers or anything. >> reporter: a former word of life church member who asked not to be identified tells cnn it was founded in 1984. it's made up of about five families and has approximately 35 members. their teachings are accurate to the bible. that former member says it is not a cult, but some long-time neighbors aren't so sure. >> they were very loud and very disruptive. >> reporter: father abraham is a paster of st. patrick's,
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anthonys church located next door. he says he would often complain about sounds of drums being beaten at night. there were discussions with anyone about what their believes are? >> none at all. i really believe this is not a main line christian church. a main line christian church would offer houspitality and welcome everyone and point to jesus christ, to serve, to be open, to be present to others. >> reporter: the attorney for debra leonard told me he thought the facts were pa cure lar and says he doesn't believe his client is capable of harming her son. she suffers from a heart condition. police say their investigation is far from over. jason carroll, cnn, new hartford, new york. troubling, indeed. just ahead new attacks in
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jerusalem and got out and stabbed at least eight people killing a 40-year-old man. police shot the attacker. that yesterday. today police shot and killed a man armed with a knife at jerusalem's damascus plaza. today's attacks were the latest in a string of seemingly random stabbings by young palestinian men against israelis. joining me is george mitchell, former u.s. special enjoy to the middle east and former u.s. senator. these kind of attacks, i mean, they are incredibly difficult to predict or plan against because, i mean, if it truly is individuals who are, you know, motivated, self-motivated without any link to a specific group, that's a tough thing to prevent. >> well, they are predictable. it's just not the precise person or location that is predictable but you know that they are going to happen. it's a very serious situation.
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i chaired an international commission which investigated the origins of the second intifada, and the principal conclusion that we drew is that it so quickly spiraled out of control on both sides. it was a different circumstance, different leaders. you can't draw a direct analogy between the two. >> do you seat possibility of the third intifada, the possibility of this spiraling? >> oh, certainly, it can't be ruled out. i hope it doesn't happen, and i hope there will be swift action to deter that from occurring, but i don't think anybody can seriously say flatly and absolutely that it won't happen. >> but, i mean, have you groups like hamas praising these attacks. mahmoud abbas has called the shootings by israel of these attackers, you know, assassinations basically, killings. >> yeah, well, i believe that all sides should take strong
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steps, including the right words, to tamp this down. i think president abbas should and i think prime minister netanyahu should, and i think it's imperative that the united states and its allies undertake another effort to try to bring calm and hopefully get some process going again because the history of the middle east, anderson, is that when there is a peace process in place, the parties tend to be stable although still very hostile towards each other. when it appears that it's breaking down or broken down, as is now the case, then violence occurs. >> is there a real role for the united states to play? i mean, secretary kerry has talked about going there. we've heard some people voicing concern that by going there it may inflame things even more. >> no, i don't think that's correct that it will inflame things. i think we do have an obligation to do that because the united states is the indispensable
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party to any palestinian conflict. we get a lot of support from many european friends and others but it can't be done other than by the united states government. it's the only entity that has the capacity, the influence on both sides in a way that can hopefully bring them together to talk peace and to make peace. >> we talked a little bit about what some palestinian leaders have said and groups like hamas have said, that israelis said they can destroy the home of anybody who commits an act of terror like this, that they cannot return the body to the family which obviously in the muslim world is very important, that the person is buried in a specific amount of time by family members. is that likely, do you think, to intimidate people to not commit these types of attacks? >> quite the contrary. the demolition of homes have been goon going on for decades, not at new policy at all and it doesn't produce the desired
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result because people are taking actions that effectively are suicides knowing that they are going to be caught and probably shot and become in their eyes martyrs. the resalt that you have to air dress the underlying causes if you want to bring this to a conclusion and the israelis are, of course, appropriately defending themselves. they are flooding the area with poli police. >> called reserve offices. >> but reality is i spent a long time during two tours of duty, hi an office there, it's all packed in together. it's very close quarters, and you've got several hundred thousand palestinians living in extremely difficult circumstances and several hundred thousand israelis, and so you have to really address the underlying causes, even as you take steps to try to minimize the damage now. >> senator, appreciate you being
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that does it for us. see you again at 11:00 p.m. eastern for another edition of "360." cnn with don lemon starts right now. >> anderson, not so fast. didn't see you after the debate wanted to ask you, in the thick of this, leading charge, of course, as a moderator you anticipated a lot things happening but no way you could have anticipated bernie sanders' response to the hillary e-mail question. >> actually, that's not the case actually. >> you did? >> i actually -- there's a whole team of folks who are working on questions for days and weeks and weeks and weeks, and so you -- you know, like three-dimensional chess so you try to anticipate what somebody is going to say. my money was on bernie sanders. i didn't know the wording he was going to use. i didn't know -- i thought it obviously played very well