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hillary clinton grilled for hours and hours and hours and hours. a marathon hearing over the benghazi attack going late into the evening. the explosive moments and new reaction this morning. good morning, welcome to "early start." >> not a lot of sleep for us. . 4:00 a.m. in the east. hillary clinton is back on the campaign trail. she will be in virginia this after an exhaust an exhaustive
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11-hour session looking into benghazi. over and over republicans pressed the former secretary of state to her response to security concerns at the compound in benghazi in libya. they tried to grill into her actions. there were moments of emotion. >> i wonder if you would like to comment on what it's like to be the subject of an allegation that you interfered with security that cost the life of a friend. >> congressman, it's a r very personally painful accusation. it has been rejected and disproven by nonpartisan investigators, but nevertheless, having it continued to be bandied around is deeply
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distressing to me. i would imagine i thought more more about what happened than all of you put together. i have lost more sleep than all of you put together. i have been. wracking my brain about what more could have been done. >> it was former secretary of state clearly trying not to snap back, trying to be measured, trying to be almost presidential. at other moments in this contentious hearing. clinton stepped back and let others do the shouting. >> you need to make sure the -- >> that's exactly what i want to do. >> i'm about to tell you. i move we put into the record the entire transcript of zud knee blumenthal. we're going to release the e-mails, let's do the transcript so the world can see it. >> the motion is then seconded. >> we're not going to take that up at a hearing.
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>> they have informed us we have a right to recorded vote on that motion. we want the truth. let the world see it. >> i think the core theory is this. that you deliberately interfered with security in benghazi and that resulted in people dying. i think that is the case they want to make. >> there's no theory of the prosecution because there is no prosecution. there's a very big difference between a a prosecution where you already have reached a conclusion and you're just trying to prove it to people. . this is an investigation. >> no one ever recommended closing the post in benghazi. >> no one recommended closing, but you had two ambassadors that made several requests. here's basically what happened to their requests. they were torn up. >> so after all this, did anything new emerge? and what effect might it have on
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the 2016 race. dana bash has more on that. >> we are still standing after 11 hours from start to finish. that is how long this marathon hearing took. and so the big question at the end of the day is what new did we learn? the answer to that from the republican chairman himself was effectively not much. not much compared to other testimony a that hillary clinton has given, which is not exactly what republicans wanted to know or americans want whoed their taxpayer dollars spent wisely. however, i spoke to another republican on the committee who had some interesting exchanges, good questions for hillary clinton during the many hours of that hearing. and i asked her what she learned new. she thought she did. take a listen. >> she led the agency where our americans died and so it was
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very important to ask her about who, what, why, when and where. we asked those types of questions. some she had testified previously, but we went into greater detail and greater depth in getting an understanding of who she took advice from, who was involved in decision making and what happened actually on the nugt of the incident. i think we went into much greater detail. i think it was insightful and productive. i know that we have more important witnesses to go. this is not the end of the investigation. >> for people who watched some or all of this very, very long hearing, you can see that the democrats, for the most part, weren't trying very hard to probe what happened, when and why. some were asking security questions, but most of them used their time to try to call this
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out as a political partisan witch hunt effectively. so afterwards in these hallways talking to reporters, they felt they were vindicated by the way it went. at the end of the day, they insist that they are not sure that this whole select committee is going to come up with anything that we didn't know beforehand. we'll see what's next. the chairman says he does have other witnesses he's going to call. they have more work to do. they are still waiting for more documents from the state department. so hillary clinton's portion of this drama might be over publically, but the investigation continues. >> dana, thank you for that. presidential candidates jumped on clinton's testimony blaming her for the security lapses in benghazi spotlighting the controversy over her e-mail. marco rubio and jeb bush blasted the former secretary of state. >> she's always felt that they operate above the law.
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there's a set of rules for one group of people and a set of rules for them. >> she's not accepting responsibili responsibility. >> we have more on the republican response from senior washington correspondent joe johns. >> as hillary clinton testified in that marathon session on benghazi on capitol hill, some of the republican presidential candidates were following the proceedings with interest and weighing in on twitter, including south carolina senator lindsey graham who tweeted as threats increase, security decreased. hillary clinton is responsible above all others for this dynamic. graham also expressing support for trey gowdy, the republican chairman of the committee. he tweeted, for those who want to avoid responsibility for their actions regarding benghazi, trey gowdy has become their worst nightmare. senator rand paul tweeted a parody picture of a hard drive writing we need liberty, not hillary. a donald trump retweet claimed hillary is doing a horrible job
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suggesting she was reading from a script. and ben carson. leading in iowa in the latest poll, answered a question about the hearing. listen. >> i'm glad she's gotten around to it. it's a good thing. benghazi is a very serious issue because it goes to the core of who we are as americans. >> do you think the committee has been delegitimized at all? >> i think a lot of people have been saying that because they don't want to get to the bottom of the situation. we have to get to the bottom of it because it's important. >> the investigation was undermined by recent statements from house majority leader kevin mccarthy suggesting hillary clinton's poll numbers were reduced due to the committee's work. >> thank you. while the hearing was going on, there was other big news on capitol hill. paul ryan made it official. he will run for speaker of the house. he did that in a letter to republican colleagues. he said he's ready and eager to unite the party.
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he made it official after two groups follow pledging support and making the ryan the consensus candidate. >> with a stroke of the veto pen, president obama deepened the divide over federal spending. the president rejected a defense bill saying it fell short. he did praise the measure for making steps in security. republicans will move ahead with an override attempt. new details on the u.s. special operations raid in an isis-controlled prison in northern iraq that left one american service member dead. among the open questions, who were the 70 or so prisoners rescued in this helicopter raid. the rescue was conducted at the request of kurdish leaders. that was not all they found when
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they got there. barbara starr has the latest. >> the pentagon insists the mission was worth it, but for one american family, the worst possible news, an american service member killed when troops went with kurdish force s to a compound in northern iraq. the mission was to try to help rescue a number of hostages that isis was holding at this so-called prison, this compound. the u.s. was supposed to transport the kurds to it. the kurds were supposed to be in the lead. but as they all approached the compound, a fire fight broke out. the kurds came under heavy fire from the isis forces there. it was, at that point, that commanders on the ground made the decision that they would under the rules of engage. ment help the kurdish forces, help keep them safe and they moved in. it was then that the one service member suffered a serious wound. he was med vasculared to a
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trauma center nearby, but he succumbed and died of his wounds at that it trauma center in northern iraq under u.s. military care. a number of hostages were rescued, about 70, but it turned out according to pentagon at this point they don't think any of them actually were kurds. they are still trying to figure out who these people were. that open admission from the pentagon really did not know who was there. so why did they undertake this mission? pentagon officials saying it came at the request of the kurds, that the kurds are valuable allies and that defense secretary ash carter made the decision he wanted to help them. >> barbara starr, thank you. time for an "early start" on your money. european and asian shares up on hopes of more stimulus from the european central bank. yesterday the dow surged 321
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points. while wemp watching hillary clinton and the benghazi hearing, the stock market was going crazy. solid earnings for google and microso microsoft. one looming threat is the debt ceiling jack lew said it's increased borrowing the costs. the treasury cancelled a sale of two-year notes slated for next week over fear that congress won't raise the debt ceiling in time. it was scheduled for october 27th. it's set to go through on november 2nd. it's a day before the treasury estimates it will exhaust measures and a sale could prush us over the debt limit. >> it's going to be a real fight in washington. that's as there's a vote for the new speaker. as we're in the middle of a presidential campaign. we're one hour from a big meeting between the united states and russia.
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this over the crisis in syria. not to mention hot spots raging around the world. we'll have the very latest, next.
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and find the aarp medicare supplement plan to go the distance with you. go long. breaking news, 42 people are dead in a collision between a bus and a truck in southern france. local officials say the bus was carrying elderly people. five were injured. just three walked away unarmed. secretary of state john kerry about to meet with the russian foreign minister. they are hoping to find common ground on the crisis in syria. the russians have been propping up bashar al assad with airstrikes against his enemies. the u.s. insists that assad cannot be part of a future syrian regime. nic robertson is watching these developments for us. >> good morning, jon.
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thee meetings offer a diplomatic opportunity, if you will, to begin to put together a framework for a political solution in syria. tough look at it right now and see that's remote. but you also have the turkish and saudi foreign ministers meeting with them first. you have all the major players here. you have the two big world powers, the united states and russia essentially in the syria issue, both involved. and you have two main regional power brokers involved. saudi arabia, turkey and the united states on the same side. will the russian campaign in syria the syrian president bashar al assad. going to moscow during this war meeting with vladimir putin. vladimir putin just last night saying that assad is ready to
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work with rebel groups that are ready to fight against isis. but therein lies the difficulty of the talks. why because when vladimir putin and bashar al assad talk about rebel groups fighting isis, united states is already back. ing groups to do that. the united states and russia differ over who these rebel groups are. russia is targeting these rebel groups. so the chances of fighting a compromise at the moment seem very, very remote both. turkey and saudi arabia opposed to russia's actions as well. it seems that they are coming into a situation where it's going to find a lot of opposition to what russia is doing. maybe people willing to listen to what he has to say. the chance ovs moving this forward politically seems remote.
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>> it's sbrn been interesting to see them despite the fact that the nations seem is to be very much at odds. thank you so much. we're following breaking news overnugt. one person is dead, two others injured in a shooting on the main campus of tennessee state university. nashville police say the attack happened just before midnight. it's unclear if the shooter is on the loose. nashville police tweet says the shooting happened following an apparent dispute over a dice game. we're tracking developments and will bring you more information as we get it. planned parenthood is accusing texas officials of a witch hunt aimed a the discrediting them. agents made unannounced visits thursday to planned parenthood health centers armed with subpoenas and demanding records. this comes after the texas governor said he would drop
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planned parenthood from the state medicaid program and cut off funding to clinics. president obama publicly defending the black lives matter movement. it came to prominence after a series of shootings. the president making his first official comments during a criminal justice panel discussion at the white house. >> the reason that the organizers use the phrase black lives matters was not because they were suggesting nobody else's lives matter. what they were suggesting was there's a specific problem that is happening in the african-american community that's not happening in other communities. >> the president has specific concerns about african-americans in certain jurisdictions being subjected to excessive force and unfair treatment. we have breaking news overnight. a powerful category 5 hurricane, a serious storm spinning toward land. we have the details, next. ♪
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hurricane patricia is big and getting bigger. the storm has grown into a monster category 5 hurricane in the pacific. it's baring down on mexico. forecasters say the impact of patricia could be catastrophic. it's expected to make landfall on the pacific coast by midday today. >> let's get more on the powerful storm.
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>> when the national hurricane center uses a word like unprecedented when they are discussing hurricane patricia at a category 5, you know that's important. it got our attention because it looks like it has developed so rapidly it has deepened in central pressure, which tells us it's getting stronger. it went from 160 miles an hour to winds 185 miles per hour. and this is going to be potentially catastrophic in coastal sections of mexico, on the pacific side. it looks like it will make landfall later in the day on friday. as it does, 6 to 10 inches of rainfall in some areas, but in those coastal regions, computer models are suggesting 10 to 20 inches of rainfall possible there. as it continues to trech towards the north and moving to the
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northeast. a secondary problem in the united states available moisture being tapped from the pacific, that in an area of low pressure that moves across texas. most of the state under flood watches and warnings, even along coastal areas. we could see significant rainfall over the next couple of days. how much rainfall are we looking at? take a look at these estimates that the computer models are pick i picking up over the next three days. even in dallas, texas, close to 8 inches possible. the potential for severe flooding is likely. even towards the coast, just as i mentioned. as we look through the forecast over the next 24 hours or so from dallas to san antonio to austin, this is what we're looking at that most significant rainfall. they have been in drought conditions now for quite some time. this is a drought buster. >> a drought buster, thank you for that. hillary clinton grilled for
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11 long hours over the benghazi terror attack. question about security concerns, question about her e-mails, how she held up and if we learned anything new, ahead.
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emotional moments, outright shouting between members of congress and hillary clinton. questioned late into the evening, 11 hours of testimony on the 2012 terror attack in benghazi. we have new reaction coming in this morning.
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welcome back to "early start," i'm john berman. >> and i'm christine romans. an 11-hour grilling by the benghazi committee. republicans pressed the former secretary of state about her response to security concerns at the u.s. diplomatic compound in libya. these members grilled into actions on the night of the 2012 attack on the compound. an attack that killed chris stevens and three others. at times the aggressive questioning provoked an emotional response from clinton. >> i wonder if you would like to comment on what it's like to be the subject of allegation that you deliberately interfered with security that cost the life of a
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friend. >> congressman, it's a very personally painful accusation. it has been rejected and disproven by dispassionate investigators, but nevertheless, having it continued to be bandied around is deeply distressing to me. i would imagine i thought more about what happened than all of you put together. i have lost more sleep than all of you put together. i have been racking my brain about what more could have been done or should have been done. >> that's almost a moment where the democrats on the committee trying to offer her chances to give her perspective in contrast to the more contentious questioning. >> that was all the democrats did when they weren't just attacking republicans for their motivations of the hearing. the democrats asked very few actual questions about benghazi
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itself. at some moments in the hearing, clinton sat back and allowed others, the democrats and republicans, to do the shouting. >> you need to make sure the entire -- >>. that's exactly what i want to do. >> well then go ahead. >> i move that we put into the record the entire transcript of sydney blumenthal. we're going to release the e-mails. let's do the transcript. >> the motion has been seconded. >> we're not going to take that up at a hearing. >> i have consulted and they have informed us we have a right to a recorded vote on that motion. >> i'll take one. >> we want the truth. let the world see it. >> i think the core theory is this. that you deliberately interfered with security in benghazi and that resulted in people dying. i think that is the case they want to make. >> there's no theory of the
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prosecution because there is no prosecution. there's a very big difference between a prosecution where you already have reached a conclusion and you're just trying to prove it to people. this is an investigation. >> no one ever recommended closing the post in benghazi. >> no one recommended closing, but you had two ambassadors that made several requests and here's basically what happened at their requests. they were torn up. >> so after all of this, did anything new emerge? what effect might this all have on the 2016 race. dana bash has more on that. >> john and christine, we are still standing after 11 hours from start to finish. that is how long this marathon hearing took. so the big question at the end of the day is what new did we learn. the answer to that from the republican chairman himself was
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effectively not much. not much compared to other testimony that hillary clinton has given, which is not exactly what republicans out there wanted to know or maybe even americans who wanted their taxpayer dollars spent wisely. however, i spoke to another republican on the committee, susan brooks, who had some interesting exchanges, good questions for hillary clinton during the many hours of that hearing. and i asked her what she learned new and she thought she did. take a listen. >> she led the agency where our americans died. it was very important to ask her about who, what, why, when and where. we asked those types of questions. some she had obviously testified previously, but i think we went into much greater detail and much greater depth in getting an understanding of who she took advice from, who was involved in decision making and what
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happened actually on the night of the incident. i think we went into much great. er detail. it was insightful and productive. i know that we have more important witnesses to go. this is not the end of the investigation. >> for people who watched some or all of this very long hearing, you can see that the democrats, for the most part, weren't trying very hard to probe exactly what happened, when and why. some were asking security questions, but most of them used their time to try to call this out as a political partisan witch hunt effectively. so afterwards in these hallways talking to reporters, they felt they were vindicated by the way that it went. and at the end of the day, they insisted they are not sure that this it whole select committee is going to come up with anything that we didn't know beforehand. so we'll see what's next. the chairman says that he does have other witnesses he's going
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to call. they do have more work to do. they are waiting for more documents from the state department. so hillary clinton's portion of this drama might be over at least publicly, but the investigation continues. john and christine? >> thank you, dana. the presidential candidates jumped on this testimony and blamed hillary clinton for the security lapses in benghazi. overnight marco rubio and jeb bush both talked about this. >> she has always felt and clintons have always felt they operate above the law. there's a set of rules for one group of people and a set of rules for them. >> she's not accepting responsibility. >> let's get more on the republicans from joe johns. >> john and christine, as hillary clinton testified in that marathon session on benghazi on capitol hill, some of the republican presidential candidates were following the proceedings with interest and weighing in on twitter,
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including south carolina senator lindsey graham, who tweeted, as threats increase, security decreased. hillary clinton is responsible above all others for this dynamic. graham also expressing support for trey gowdy, the republican chairman of the committee. he tweeted, for those who want to avoid responsibility for their actions regarding benghazi, trey gowdy has become their worst nightmare. senator rand paul tweeted a parody picture of a hard drive saying we need liberty, nothi hillary. donald trump suggested she was reading from a script. and ben carson, leading in iowa in the latest poll, answered a question about the hearing. listen. >> well, i'm glad she has gotten around to it. it's a good thing. benghazi is a very serious issue because it goes to the core of who we are as americans. >> do you think the committee has been delegit neimized at al?
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>> some don't want to get to the bottom of the situation, but we have to because it's very a important. >> democrats said the committee was undermined by recent statements from house majority leader kevin mccarthy suggesting hillary clinton's poll numbers were reduced due to the committee's work. john and christine? >> joe, thank you. paul ryan is taking the pledge announcing he will run for house speaker in a let tore republican colleagues. ryan says he's ready and eager to lead and unite the party. he jumped in after two influential groups followed the house freedom caucus pledging their support and making ryan the consensus candidate. a vote for speaker is vjed for next week. with a stroke of his veto pen, the president rejected a $612 billion defense bill saying it falls woefully short. he did praise the measure for ensuring military funding and
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making improvements in cyber security, but it fails to confront other national security. this is over budgeting. . he said that they should be able to use trick budgeting e procedure when is domestic spending priorities do not have the same option. it's about the se kwequester st. they are going to try to override the vee tea. this is all leading up to a budget showdown and a debate over the debt ceiling. >> time for an "early start" on your morning. hopes of stimulus measures from the european central bank. stock futures are up a bit. the dow up 321 points yesterday. that's almost 2%. good news from several big players. google's new parent alphabet, strong profit. much of the growth comes from mobile search. it's up a record high. and amazon shocked wall street
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by posting a profit. amazon regularly loses money. its cloud business is booming so are retail sales. the amazon shares launched to a record high as well. a bunch of household names. >>. mcdonald's. >> that butter milk chicken sandwich and breakfast all day. >> secretary of state john kerry is a few moments away from a very important meeting with the russian foreign minister right there. can they find any common ground on syria? this is an important discussion. we'll have it, next.
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breaking news, 42 people are dead in a collision between a bus and a truck in southern france. local officials say the bus was carrying a lot of elderly. they say five people were injured. only three people in this accident walked away unharmed. secretary of state john kerry about to meet with the russian foreign minister. they are hoping to find common ground on the crisis in syria. the russians propping up bashar al assad with airstrikes against his enemies. the u.s. insisting he cannot be part of the future syrian regime. nic robertson monitoring developments live from london, good morning. >> good morning, so what is it that it he could be bringing from moscow to make a political
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difference this time? his boss vladimir putin yesterday outlined some of his conversation with the syrian president bashar al assad, the two of them met in moscow later this week and assad is willing to support rebel groups in the country that would fight isis. this might sound like it's going to tip the box for everyone. when you look at it, the united states is already supporting rebel groups inside syria fighting isis. but russia and bashar al assad. are targeting those same rebel groups. so where's the common ground in that? so what you have here today is not just secretary kerry meeting with the foreign minister, but the turkey and saudi foreign minister in meetings as well. so you have the united states, saudi arabia, turkey, all on the same page here. russia is the odd one out.
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both the united states, turkey, saudi arabia supporting the rebel groups that they are targeting. so at the moment while there's an opportunity for discussion and some ground maybe for them to work, some common ground for them to work toward a political deal, it doesn't seem that they are likely to walk away with anything. what is significant here is you have the major players involved. the united states and russia, the two big international powers and the two big regional powers. so if you're going to get something done around the table, these meetings could be the place to do it. i don't think expectations are high. >> thank you for that, live from london, thank you. breaking news overnight, a category 5 hurricane spinning toward mexico this hour. this could be catastrophic, next.
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hurricane patricia is big and getting bigger. it's in the pacific barg down on mexico. forecasters say the impact could be catastrophic. it's expected to make landfall on the pacific coast by midday today. this is a huge storm. >> let's get more on how
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powerful this storm is. >> when the national hurricane center uses a word like unprecedented when they are discussing hurricane pennsylvania thipatricia at a hurricane 5, you know that's important. it looks like it has developed so rapidly it has deepened in central pressure, which tells us it's getting stronger. but it went from 160 miles an hour to winds 185 miles per hour. and this is going to be potentially catastrophic in coastal sections of mexico on the pacific side. it looks like it will make landfall later on the day on friday. as it does, 6 to 10 inches of rainfall in some areas, but in those coastal regions, computer models are suggesting 10 to 20
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inches of rainfall possible there. as it continues to trek towards the north moving towards the northea northeast. a secondary problem that we have in the united states, available moisture being tapped from the pacific. that in an area of low pressure that moves across texas. you'll see what i mean. most of the state under flood watches and warnings, even along coastal areas. we could see significant rainfall over the next couple days. how much rainfall are we looking at? take a look at some of these estimates that the computer models are picking up over the next three days. even in dallas, texas, close to 8 inches possible. the potential for severe flooding is likely. even towards the coast, just as i mentioned. as we look through the forecast over the next 24 hours or so from dallas to san antonio to austin, this is what we're looking at, that most significant rainfall. they have been in drought conditions for quite some time. this is a drought buster.
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christine? >> what a big storm. you have heard it before. millennials have no hung er for mcdonalds a. is the mcdonald's turn around working?
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welcome back, i'm christine romans. let's get an early start on your money. a great end to the week for stocks. hopes of stimulus measures from the european central bank. stocks are up after a surge in the dow of 321 points. strong for google's parent company alphabet. much of that coming from mobile search. amazon shocked wall street posting a profit. their cloud business is booming and so are retail sales. and is mcdonald's finally coming back? sales are growing for the first time since 2013. americans globled up their new chicken sandwich. >> by americans you mean you. >> i do love the chicken sandwich.
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it's got a revamped egg mcmuffin. i work the early shift. >> americans like what i really mean is me. >> it's part of the plan to compete with my len yells. the latest in the drug pricing battle of san diego-based pharmaceutical company will offer an alternative to the drug from pharmaceuticals that the ceo jacked up the price 5,000% overnight. now the substitute from another company will cost $1 a pill. presidential hopefuls have slammed the price hike and the ceo. hillary clinton asked the fda and the ftc to investigate. >> it was hard for americans to wake up this morning. by that i mean me because i speak on behalf of all americans. "early start" continues right now.
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hillary clinton on the hot seat for hours, hours and hours. an 11-hour hearing on the benghazi terror attack. this went late, folks. there were big emotional moments. we have new reaction this morning coming up. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> and i'm christine romans. this morning hillary clinton is back on the campaign trail. she's in virginia after that exhausting and exhaustive 11-hour grilling by the house benghazi committee. again and again republicans pressed the former secretary of state about her response to security concerns at the u.s. diplomatic compound in benghazi, libya. they drilled into her actions on the night of the attack on that compound, the attack in 2012, an attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens, foreign service officer sean smith and cia contractors

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