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and this morning there are conflicting impressions about how much new information was actually revealed. >> how about these questions? were there any new facts that proved that hillary clinton was directly responsible or negligent in preventing the attack in benghazi? did she provide new information about her e-mails and what impact will all of this have on the 2016 presidential race? we have it all covered for you. let's begin with cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar live in washington. what a day it was, brianna. >> yes, this was a feat of stamina, ten hours in the hot seat for hillary clinton. she came out the survivor here, certainly a lot of observers think that she was relatively unscathed. her campaign feels pretty good about this. but republicans feel that she appeared very evasive and didn't answer all of their questions. >> i really don't care what you all say about me. it doesn't bother me a lit. >> hillary clinton emerging from
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her congressional grilling after enduring over eight hours of aggressive questioning. >> i'm not asking what the arb did. i'm asking what you did. >> i followed the law, congressman. >> by the benghazi committee republican members. >> that's not the question. what terms did you use and what were the date parameters? what date did you start and the e-mails in between there we're going to look at? >> well, congressman, i asked my attorneys to oversee the process. i did not look over their shoulder. >> reporter: in the end, the committee broke very little new ground as republicans tried to paint clinton as directly responsible for negligent on the assault on the u.s. mission in benghazi that claimed the lives of u.s. ambassador chris steven and three other americans. >> here's basically what happened to their requests. they were torn up. >> reporter: but there is still no smoking gun. >> the answers have changed not at all since i appeared two years ago before the house and the senate. >> reporter: even committee chair trey gowdy admitted there
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wasn't any significant new revelations from clinton. >> i don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has previous time she testified. >> reporter: democrats insisting the hearing was nothing but a partisan witch hunt. >> i don't know what we want from you. do we want to badger you over and over again until we get the gotcha moment he's talking about? we're better than that. >> this testy exchange unfolded. >> why is it you only want mr. bloomenthal's transkricript released? >> i want them all released. >> i think it is imminently fair to ask why sydney bloomenthal had unfettered access and there's not a single solitary e-mail to or from you to or from
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ambassador stevens. >> reporter: at one point, clinton let her emotions show through. >> i thought more about what happened than all of you put together. i've lost more sleep than all of you put together. >> reporter: when she said she had questioned her response to the deadly terror attack. >> i have been racking my brain about what more could have been done or should have been done. what must we do better? >> this was really the third of three hurdles for hillary clinton in this month of october. first, that democratic debate, then confronting the possibility of a joe biden candidacy and now this. i'll tell i don't you, john, her team feels that she has three hits and no misses. >> brianna, thank you so much. a lot of people thought there would be fireworkses between the committee and hillary clinton. well, it turned out that the most fiery moments weren't between republicans on the committee or democrats on the committee and hillary clinton but between themselves. there was a fight between the
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chairman, trey gowdy and the ranking member, elijah cummings off sydney bloomenthal. he had been sending e-mails to hillary clinton for years. he testified behind closed doors to this committee. elijah cummings wants the transcript released. >> i move that we put into the record the entire transcript of sydney bloomenthal. we'll release the e-mails, let's do the transcript. >> i second that motion. >> we didn't -- >> the motion has been seconded. >> we're not going to take that up at a hearing. >> i have consulted with the parliamentari parliamentarian. we have a right to record a vote on that motion. we asked for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. let the world see it. >> why is it that you only want mr. bloomenthal's transcript
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released. >> i want all of them released. >> the survivors, you want that released? >> the only one you've asked for is sydney bloomenthal, that and miss mills. >> cheryl mills. >> that's not true. >> that's 2 out of 54. if you want to ask for fact witnesses -- >> i asked for a recorded vote on the bloomenthal. you said from the beginning we want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. why don't we put the entire transcript out there and let the world see it? what do you have to hide. >> these are the only e-mails you have released. in fairness to mr. bloomentha and the american people, in the interest of a complete record, if you're going to release his e-mails, release the transcript where he has the chance to give the context of those e-mails. >> you keep referring to bloomenthal e-mails. the only reason we have bloomenthal e-mails is because he e-mailed the secretary of state. they're not his e-mails. she wanted all of her e-mails
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released. she's been saying since march. i want the entire world to see my e-mails. sydney bloomenthal's e-mails are part of that. i'm not going to release one transcript while people who risked their lives, you have no interest in their story getting out. you don't want the 18 ds agents, the cia agents. the only transcripts you want released are miss mills and sydney bloomenthal. we'll take this up in november. >> the only person you were interested in asking about is sydney bloomenthal. if you're so interested in him, release the transcript. you've selectively released his e-mails. >> i'm going to ask the gentleman from california to please do a better job at characterizing. these are not sydney bloomenthal's e-mails. these are secretary clinton's e-mails. wait until the next round if you think you've heard about
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bloomenthal this round. >> there's so much to debate. let's bring in, david brock, and ben ferguson, a cnn political commentator and host of the ben ferguson show. gentlemen, so much to talk about. >> good morning. >> let me start with you. what was the defining moment for you of the hearing? >> i think it was the two stories that hillary clinton told, one where she lied to the american people and said that this was a spontaneous protest that cost the lives of four americans, including the ambassador, and the private e-mails that she was sending to her own family to leaders of other countries, the same exact night saying this was not an attack because of a spontaneous protest. this was connected to al qaeda. so why did she purposely lie to the american people? i think even more than that, if you listen to family members who lost loved ones, they said she looked them in the eyes, days after their loved ones had died when they were having caskets coming off the plane on the
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tarmac at andrews and she told them deliberately to their face a lie she knew was a lie, a lie she wouldn't even tell her own daughter. she looked at these families and said i'm so sorry your family members died because a spontaneous protest, which was a fabricated story. she looked at these family members and told them a lie for her own political gain. >> that to me was the point of the view. >> david, respond to that. >> there are a lot of conservatives out there. you have eric erickson, a right wing commentator saying this was a waste of time. you had fox news that pursued this 1,000 segments. they stopped taking it live. you have a problem within you have that. the problem is the republicans totally overplayed their hand. there was nothing new here that changes the picture. >> on that point -- >> hold on. there was nothing new that changes the picture. >> it was new she lied to people that family members were killed. >> no. she talked about the fog of war. she's answered these questions before.
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these republicans have concluded before unless you're going to say they're incompetent the way that chairman gowdy did, that there was no premeditated effort to mislead them at all. >> how do you explain that she had it right, got it right in the first hours afterward, that it didn't have in hig to do with the video and there was a narrative for the following week that it was about a video? >> if we were watching the testimony, first of all, she said there was an al qaeda connected terrorist who was at first claiming credit for this and then retracted it. what people are missing here, there's no cover-up. president obama went into the rose garden and talked about a terrorist attack the next morning. this conspiracy theory never made sense. >> but he wasn't talking about a terrorist attack in relation to -- >> i think it's sad that some people -- >> david. >> the fringe in this country are never going to accept the government's word on this no matter who it is. >> hang on, ben. hang on. let me read the e-mails. >> they'll be did i poised, too the one thing that was new, new
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information that none of us heard was this e-mail from hillary clinton to chelsea clinton. let me read you what this e-mail says. this was new. we had not known about this before. it said two officers, from hillary to chelsea, two officers were killed today in benghazi by an al qaeda-like group. that information was conveyed, david, from had hillary clinton to chelsea clinton. >> right. >> within the hours that she released to the public a statement about what happened in benghazi. now, ben, in some republicans on the committee mischaracterized what that statement said. also that statement said some people are saying it was a video. hillary clinton certainly did not say in the statement that these people in benghazi were killed by an al qaeda-like group. why the omission? >> she also -- >> no, no. why didn't she tell the american people in that release that some people were suggesting that our four americans in benghazi were killed by an al qaeda-like group? >> there was a lot of conflicting information in the
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moment. as i said, as she testified, one piece of information was someone claiming that this was a terrorist attack connected to al qaeda that was retracted. but this theory that goes to the question of whether the public was told the truth never made sense because the public statements were true. >> john -- >> ben -- >> you have hillary clinton, let's be clear. if you're hillary clinton, you sat there and had a blunt conversation with the president of libya, you had a blunt conversation people in charge in egypt and you said in those e-mails to them, this was not an attack based on a protest. >> yes. >> but you meet the family members and you looked them in the eyes and tell them -- let me finish. >> i'm done with the funny route rage for the family. >> it's not funny outrage. >> marco rubio is out there raising money. >> let me finish. >> hold on. >> it's not phony outrage when you have four caskets come off the plane with an american flag
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draped over them. if you call four dead americans phony outrage -- >> hold on, david, ben, hold on. there's a larger issue here, ben. this is what often trips up the republicans. so afterwards there might have been political spin. it appears there were conflicting reports. that's not about the cause of benghazi. and what to do differently before the attack. and this investigation is supposed to have been about what caused it, what happened, how do we do something differently? republicans have seized on the spin afterwards. so what came out about the cause and what can be changed? >> i think it was very clear that secretary clinton did not know what our policy was in benghazi, in libya at the time. >> what do you mean, what policy? >> i don't know why she had americans go into harm's way there. what was the objective? what was the policy? why were we sending people there who were going to be under this big of a security risk without a
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clear view point of what our policy was. even our own staff members said i'm not sure hillary clinton even knew we had a presence in benghazi in their e-mails. there are two takeaways from this. the big one is, what were we doing there and did we even know what our game plan was or goal? >> ben, ben -- >> it doesn't seem hillary clinton understood that. >> one thing came out in the hearing, hillary clinton claims she didn't send christopher stevens to benghazi. he made the decision to go to benghazi from tripoli on his own. i want to ask david a question, though, that was not answered in this hearing. it's not really been answered since 201, one that keeps coming up, which is why weren't the requests for security, why were they not granted over time? more requests for security, hundreds of requests for security. i understand hillary clinton explaining that they never got to her. that's a separate issue. but she has never explained why she believes that they were not granted. isn't that important? isn't that the crux of the issue here in finding out what
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happened in benghazi and making sure it doesn't happen again? >> yes, that is an important question. as you said, these requests never came to the secretary. but i think the elephant in the room and secretary clinton did mention this in her testimony yesterday, was that you had a republican congress that wasn't willing to fund embassy security. and now i think it's really hypocritical for them to come out and make a big issue of this when they in fact wouldn't fund it. they've done better since. learning the lesson of benghazi, which we all should, but that was a big problem back then for sure. >> ben, what's your response to that? >> no one claimed -- that was involved in security that the security requests were denied, david. again, listen to what she said -- >> ben, ben, ben, ben. no, no, ben. peter oskin tore up those papers, saying this is what happened to all those requests. that was the clear implication. >> no one is claiming the reason why they were denied or extra
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security was because of funding. i don't know why democrats brought that in there. it wasn't like the security requests were denied because of funding saying we're not sending security to benghazi because we don't have the money, the united states of america. that never happened. that's a false narrative put out by the democrats. >> you're saying we don't know why -- we still don't know why they were declined? >> what's the answer? what's the answer? >> i would love for hillary clinton since she's in charge of the state department at the time to try to figure that out. >> we already heard -- we already heard 11 hours of testimony. we would have been better off showing her testimony from three years ago and saving the $5 million. the chairman of this committee -- >> if we would have done that -- >> hold on. he's on tape saying there was nothing new in her testimony. >> guys. >> if we would have done that. >> quickly. >> we would not have ever seen the e-mail that went to hillary clinton's daughter. >> it wouldn't have mattered. >> saying the truth. >> we have -- >> it wouldn't have matter. it didn't change the picture at all. >> david, thank you very much for showing us that these
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questions still remain and just how contentious the hearing was. we'll have much more on this hearing throughout the morning. coming up in our 7:00 hour, we'll hear from the republican congressman who did have that defining moment, jim jordan. he repeatedly sparred with clinton. in our 8:00 hour, we'll speak with rand paul and we'll have democratic congressman louie gutierrez on. they have strong opinions about what they heard yesterday. big breaking news in the republican presidential race. ben carson, a commanding lead in iowa over donald trump in the poll that most political insiders tell you matters more than any other. the des moines register bloomberg poll, the gold standard. ben carson, a nine-point lead over donald trump. second poll in two days that shows carson with a lead there. a quinnipiac poll yesterday had him at 28%, trump down at 20%. we'll have much more on what this all means. because all of a sudden donald
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trump can no longer say he's leading in every poll. in fact, he is trailing decisively in the very first voting state. >> meanwhile, we have breaking news to tell you about. there's been a fiery, violent head-on crash between a bus and truck, killing at least 42 people. this happened in southern france near bordeaux. most of the victims were elderly on a tour bus. only eight people escaped after the collision. a cnn affiliate said this is france's worst road accident in more than 30 years. also breaking overnight, one person is dead and at least two wounded at a shooting at the main campus of tennessee state university. the injured are students. the man who died was not enrolled at the school. nashville police say the shooting apparently started over a dispute in a dice game. as you've seen, there was a lot of finger pointing during hillary clinton's marathon testimony yesterday. >> still is. >> and still this morning. did her accusers get the facts straight?
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there were a lot of claims on both sides. everything from the state department's response to the benghazi attack to clinton's private e-mail server. want to cut through the noise as best we can. we're joined this morning by kmn political commentator, correspondent for the new yorker, ryan lizza and political commentator and political anchor at new york one, errol louis. we'll go claim by claim and figure out what was true-ish, maybe not was as true-ish. >> don't overpromise. >> i know. >> hillary clinton was talking about her e-mails. she said repeatedly, she has said it for some time now, 90% to 95% of all the e-mails she used that were at the statement department sent or received were actually captured and saved on the state department's e-mail servers. let's listen to her sound on that. >> 09% to 95% of my work-related e-mails were in the state system. if they wanted to see them, they would certainly have been able
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to do so. >> that is maybe the tenth time you have cited that figure today. >> it is. >> and i have not heard anyone other than you cite that figure. who told you that 09% to 95% of your e-mails were in the state department's system? who told you that? >> we learned that from the state department and their analysis of the e-mails that were already on the system. >> so, ryan, hillary clinton has always said she tried whenever she could when doing business to send e-mails to other people to their state.gov e-mail address? does z that mean she's right. >> the the number is difficult for us to determine exact percentage. she is correct even though she dotgov address, a lot of the time she was e-mailing to the state department with state.gov e-mail addresses. which means they were captured
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in the state system, right? they would have been, you know, dispersed across other accounts. but as she points out, that's still in the state system. >> scattered. there but scattered. >> you're going to call that one true-ish. >> the exact number, as gowdy pointed out, the exact number, the origin of that number we don't know, hillary clinton says it came from the state department. gowdy said he's not heard that. >> let's talk, errol, about another thing we need to fact check. that sa as everyone knows there were seven other committees investigating this. trey gowdy said his was the best. listen to this. >> these questions lingered because previous investigations were not thorough. these questions lingered because those previous investigations were narrow in scope and either incapable or unwilling to access the facts and evidence necessary to answer all relevant questions.
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>> okay. were the others narrow in scope? >> well, i think some of his fellow representatives might take issue with that characterization. this is in part trey gowdy wanting to remind everybody that his was the best of the different probes. at couldn'tability review board, an intensive investigation turned out a whole lot of information minus a lot of the politics. trey gowdy is correct to sort of claim credit for having brought to light the whole question of the e-mails on the private serve every. he struck gold. >> he's went further than others. >> he struck gold where a lot of the other probers did not. >> in fact, ryan, a couple pieces of new information that came to light, one that came to light yesterday, which was hillary's new e-mail to chelsea clinton, another was the conversation she had with the egyptian prime minister. it was part of this revelation process. there's this new claim, this new information that hillary clinton was speaking about the benghazi attacks not being about the video, but being the product of
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direct terrorist and even al qaeda attacks contemporaneously. that's new. >> right. to the egyptians and to chelsea. right. a lot of people are making a big deal of this. if you believe that the al qaeda -- that the video was a cover story, right? that it was part of a conspiracy to hide the truth about what the true nature of the attacks were, you might want to seize on this piece of information. the way it looks to me is that the initial reporting was all over the place. even in clinton's book she made the case that initially there was an al qaeda-linked group that took credit for the attack. then they no longer took credit for that. during those first two weeks she went back and forth thinking between the video had a lot to do with it and it didn't. i think yesterday she still maintained that the video had something to do with the attack, at least in terms of recruiting people to go and attack the embassy. i've never thought, i've looked at this pretty closely, i've never thought that the administration was using the video as a cover-up to deny that
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this was an al qaeda attack because, you know, i've never understood why they would have done that in the first place. to me it's looked like conflicting reports in the fog of war. >> errol, let's talk about this whole line of questioning that popped up about sydney blumenthal and how he had a direct line of access to secretary clinton when so many other people that the committee thought were more relevant did not. so listen to this moment. >> can you tell us why security requests from your professionals, the man you just testified and with which i agree are incredibly professional, incredibly capable people, traned in the art of keeping us all safe, none of those made it to you? a man who was a friend of yours who had never been to libya, didn't know much about it, at least that's his testimony, didn't know much about it, every one of those reports that he sent on to you that had to do with situations on the ground in libya, those made it to your desk. >> there you go.
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is that a fair line of questioning? >> it's a fair question. the answer is obvious and doesn't yield the dynamite they were hoping for. she has 70,000 employees, 270 missions around the world. almost everything is supposed to be vetted, including important security information at a level well below her. her political friend whose e-mails we can see, much of it is online, he's playing amateur spy, playing amateur diplomat, he's playing amateur political consultant and the stuff in some ways is somewhat laughable. the notion she was relying on this for advice, i don't think is born out by her responses. she's passing it on to her professional staff, sending him back through the same channels anybody else would go through. we know from testimony, a lot of the other people that had to receive this stuff rolled their eyes. here's this guy, not a professional, doesn't know libya, doesn't know what he's talking about and we have to handle this to see if there's
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anything to it. >> it was clear, they were trying to set up a parallel relationship, sydney blumenthal was your friend. you say christopher stevens was your friend but his concerns never got to you. >> i understand there's superficial appeal to that argument. so far, what it looks like she used t e ed her private e-mail communicate with her senior staff in her office. maybe it was a managerial issue and she also used the e-mail to talk to outside people to get information from outside that bubble. she did not use that private e-mail to communicate with the 70,000 state department employees or to communicate with ambassadors or assistant secretaries. and i'm puzzled as to why the republicans or anyone would want her to communicate on that private system with sensitive information going back and forth to ambassadors. they had their own way of reaching her. >> yes. ryan lizza, errol louis, thanks
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so much for helping us sift our way through everything that came out in these 11 hours. we appreciate you being here. we have breaking news in the presidential race we want to get to. ben carson taking a commanding lead in a critical state. i'll tell you right now, it's iowa. we'll break down -- >> you blew the mystery. >> here's the mystery we will talk about. what does this mean for the gop field, particularly the front-runner, donald trump? we'll be right back. people don't have to think about
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we have some breaking political news this morning. look at these numbers. look at this. the second poll in 24 hours puts ben carson on top. he has leap frogged donald trump. this in iowa. carson leads with 28%. trump is 9 points behind at 19%. this is the brand new des moines
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register/bloomberg politics poll. this could have a huge impact on the presidential race. let's bring back our political commentator and correspondent for the new yorker, ryan lizza and political anchor at new york one, errol louis. what do you make of these new poll numbers? iowa? >> they are an interesting phenomena. evangelicals are a particular kind of voter. they like to see people who are living a lifestyle that's somewhat similar to theirs, an understatement, a modesty. donald trump doesn't do understatement and modesty. ben carson sort of looks more like the kind of candidate, frankly, they have voted for in the past. rick santorum, mike huckabee in 2008. >> george w. bush in 2000. >> yes, george w. bush. the evangelical voters, they make up 40 plus percent of the iowa electorate. is donald trump a committed christian, ryan?
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32% say he is, 28% say not and 40% say not sure. so obviously, this is an area of softness for donald trump in iowa. my question is a question that has plagued me for months. this is the kind of thing that can be addressed by spending a little money. you can put a few ads on tv, talking about your faith. you can target evangelical voters in mailings. it's malpractice for donald trump not to be doing this in that state. now these two polls, yesterday and today, we're seeing the effects. >> well, i don't think donald trump is -- it has to be true, though, right? >> does it? >> as far as we know donald trump is not a religious conservative. i mean, he was at an iowa forum earlier in the summer where he, you know, he sort of joked about his own religiosity or lack of religiosity. not that there's anything wrong with that. politicians should be true to who they are. if he started doing mailings and
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talking about jesus christ and claiming to be an evangelical conservative when there's no history or record of that, that underclaims his main a authentici authenticity. with these iowa polls, always interesting. 2012 at this point in the process, rick santorum, the guy who went on to win the iowa caucuses was at 2%. >> errol, hold on a second. donald trump does say he'll make stores say merry christmas. doesn't that make him a committed christian? >> i don't know if that offsets owning casinos and having been married three times, openly worshipping maman for lack of a better term. this is not what normally will fly with conservative religious voters. he has something to overcome. i don't know. ryan is exactly right. you can send ads out to folks but they're not necessarily going to believe those ads if you have the history donald trump has had.
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ben carson, tby the way, he's made masterful use of facebook and social media. he's connected to voters in a way that outsiders can't necessarily penetrate or duplicate. >> both of you disagreed with me. ryan, the significance of this, i don't think should be understated right now. i know you're right. the polls in october don't necessarily equate to what we'll see in the caucuses. but we're seeing a trend now. the trend is donald trump was winning everywhere. now he's not winning everywhere, including the first voting state. and this could be problematic for his main argument which is i'm a winner. >> i agree with you there 100%. that's why the consultants always say don't go out there and brag about your polls in the summer and the fall. don't even mention them. if you're up in the polls, great. don't go out there every day and make that your message. his message if you watch his rallies or interviews, i'm going to win this thing because i'm at the top of the polls in the summer and fall. well, now he has a little bit of
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a problem. he's had two polls in a row showing ben carson the leader in iowa. if you noticed yesterday what happened on twitter, he retweeted someone making fun of the iowans saying they were essentially crazy. that person was making a joke, of course. that explains trump's slip in the polls. he then got criticism for that. he deleted the tweet. i don't know if he was joking or not, he tweeted out something that said it was an intern that had retweeted that. >> always the intern. >> the one thing that iowans do not like is to be made fun of. that's a line you can't cross in american plks in these presidential primaries. >> that's interesting. that raises the next poll number. that is how do donald trump's insults affect voters and how do they feel about his insults? do they not bother you? 54% say they do not bother him. less supportive, 46%.
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iowans may be in that category, errol. >> that's right. there are a lot of people who have spent most of their life trying to live by and teach their children, you don't go around insulting people, not in public. it's not good manners. the insults, the public discourse of this kind, it really does turn off a lot of people. donald trump has sort of made his brand that i don't care who i offend, this is my style. what you see is what you get. there is a price apparently to be paid for that. >> errol, ryan, thank you. thanks so much. >> great, guys. >> great to parse all that with you. we'll talk more about this in our 8:00 hour with republican presidential candidate rand paul. he'll be in our studio. the big question, hillary clinton, candidate for president 2016. 11 hours on the hot seat yesterday. so is her candidacy looking better today than it did yesterday? what did we learn from the testimony? what did we learn about her as a candidate? stay with us. (man) hmm. what do you think?
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all right. a marathon session inside congress yesterday. hillary clinton facing questions from the house select committee investigating benghazi. republicans asked about requests for extra security at the compound. why did they never reach hillary clinton? why was she taking intelligence from a friend who used to be a journalist, an adviser to bill clinton in lasted a long time, 11 hours, start to finish. a rare presidential veto captured on camera, president obama vetoing a $612 billion defense authorization bill in a public oval office ceremony, accusing congressional republicans of spending gimmicks, the measure would have also made it more difficult for the president to close the military prison at guantanamo
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bay, cuba. republicans say they will try to override this veto. paul ryan makes it official. he will run for house speaker. he got the support of two more influential republican facts after the freedom caucus which includes some of the most conservative house members, gave him their support. ryan said he's ready and eager to lead. a vote to e-elect the nlect the speaker is scheduled for next week. hurricane patricia, now a catastrophic category 5 storm packing unprecedented 200 mile-per-hour winds. forecasters say the powerful storm is expected to make landfall this evening. in mexico, residents being urged to evacuate and prepare for the worst. this monster storm is being compared to high fan -- typhoon
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all right. hillary clinton face-to-face with congress, facing a lot of questions, mostly from republicans during a marathon 11-hour hearing on benghazi.
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how did she hold up under the pressure? did we learn anything new from all of this? joining us is former undersecretary for political affairs, former state department official and former ambassador to greece, nicholas burns. he is also a hillary clinton supporter. so understand that when i ask him this first question. nicholas, mr. burns, ambassador, did you think she emerged from this unscathed? are there any remaining questions? do you think her candidacy for president is safe this morning? >> i think she was very impressive. she answered all the questions in that marathon session yesterday. you know, secretary clinton has now had i think eight reviews by congressional committees of what happened in benghazi. she's answered all the questions for years now. she's also accepted, as you know, the accountability review board, the review board put in place by the state department, an independent review, to look into benghazi. she accepted way back in 2012 and '13 their recommendations and corrective measures were
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taken to improve security. so frankly i thought she was impressive. i thought she was honest an straightforward and comported her swfl a lot of dignity. >> one of the areas that's been under question since 2012 is why requests for more security in benghazi, why these requests were not granted. this was asked in different ways repeatedly to the former secretary of state yesterday. she faced questions from representative peter roscom about her personal responsibility for the diplomatic outpost in benghazi listen to this exchange. >> what's your responsibility to benghazi? that's my question. >> well, my responsibility was to be briefed and to discuss with the security experts and the policy experts whether we would have a post in benghazi, whether we would continue it, whether we would make it permanent. as i've said repeatedly throughout the day, no one ever recommended closing the post in
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benghazi. >> no one recommended closing but you had two ambassadors that made several, several requests and here's basically what happened to their requests. they were torn up. >> well, that's just not true. >> they were dismissed. >> the tearing up the papers obviously theatrical. the basic question is why were the requests for security not granted? i understand hillary clinton said they never got to her. so it wasn't her decision. but why weren't they granted by the people whose decision it was? >> you know, i think what was misleading about the hearing yesterday was that there's, i think, a lot of members of congress perhaps don't recognize how the state department and federal agencies actually work. we have more than 266 embassies and consulates. the secretary of state, i've worked for many secretaries of state, of both parties, cannot make individual, specific decisions on embassy "a" or consulate "b." you have to leave to that your assistant secretary for diplomatic security and the other security officials.
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so i think that's part of the answer there. the other part of the answer is, you remember what happened that week in september of 2012? there were protests and violent incidents at a multitude of american embassy that week in the arab world. so our state department was juggling a very dangerous situation in benghazi, certainly, and also in other posts. so i think it's unfair for the critics to say that secretary clinton had personal responsibility to make all these individual decisions. that's not how a large organization of 50,000 employees works. >> again, that seems to be a separate question for why the requests were not honored or why they said no over time. let's leave that because we didn't get answers yesterday. i guess i'm not going to get them this morning. i do have an area which i think you have unique expertise in, which is should an ambassador have the e-mail address of the secretary of state? you've worked inside the state department. you've worked as an ambassador. i want to play and exchange where one of the rather thanes on the committee was asking
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hillary clinton about whether christopher stevens could reach her. let's listen. >> ambassador stevens did not have your personal e-mail address. we've established that. >> that's right. >> did he have your cell phone number? >> no, but he had the 24-hour number of the state operations in the state department that can reach me 24/7. >> yes, ma'am. >> did he have your fax number? >> he had the fax number of the state department. >> did he have your home address? >> no, i don't think any ambassador has ever asked me for that. >> did he ever stop by your house? >> no. he did not, congress mman. >> mr. blumenthal had each of those and did those things. he had access in ways that were very different than a very senior diplomat had. >> you were nodding your head there during that exchange. do ambassadors normally have the e-mail address, the cell phone number of the secretary of state? >> no, that's not how it works. we have hundreds of ambassadors
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overseas. you don't just drop by the house of the secretary of state. you don't just send off an e-mail. what you do is report through channels, even ambassadors that are senior officials. send a cable to the secretary of state whenever you want but ordinarily, an ambassador will communicate lower down the chain, the undersecretary of state, the assistant secretary of state, the secretary of state is, of course, available to ambassadors when they want to speak to him or her directly, any secretary of state. but it's not usual for an american ambassador to be sending off e-mails to the secretary of state. we use our own communications system in the state department and you send in cables, either for the secretary of state or any other official. you usually designate who that should be for. i think there's a misunderstanding of how the communications system works by some of the people asking the question. >> when you were ambassador did you have the secretary of state's e-mail? >> you know, i was ambassador to greece for president clinton. and i worked for secretary
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madeleine albright. i worked for her before but i didn't routinely send her e-mails. we have a classified system in the state department. when i was in greece as ambassador, i would send classified cables to the state department intending for, sometimes the secretary of state to reed them, but more often than not, since the secretary can't read every cable that every ambassador sends, you send it for the assistant secretary or undersecretary of state. i think these questions completely missed the reality of how, in a modern bureaucratic complex, people communicate with the secretary of state. >> nicholas burns, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. we have a whole lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. i really don't care what you all say about me. it doesn't bother me a bit. >> you have to make sure the entire record is accurate. >> you asked for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> did you ever talk to ambassador stevens. that is a yes or no question,
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madam secretary. >> here's basically what happened to their request. >> i've lost more sleep than all of you put together. >> the search terms means terms. what search terms did you use. >> i don't know what we want from the you. >> it was such an obviously partisan hearing. >> it's probably hard for americans to decipher what is exactly going on here. >> we really didn't learn anything that the other eight investigations hadn't covered. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone. welcome ba to your "new day." chris and michaela are off this morning. john berman is here with us. 11 hours on the hot seat for clinton. republicans questioning hillary clinton on everything from her e-mails to her relationship with ambassador chris stevens. how much more is known this morning? now, about the benghazi attack? >> 11 hours of testimony, by and large hillary clinton kept her cool as members questioned her one after the other.
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so what is next? and perhaps more importantly, at this point what's next for hillary clinton? what affect does this have on her campaign to be the next president of the united states? we'll go first to senior political correspondent brianna keilar live in washington. brianna? >> i guess we now know that hillary clinton has stamina. this was a feat of stamina, morning till night. her campaign not surprisingly, felt they did very well. republicans were very frustrated, clearly finding her evasive. >> i don't care what you say about me. it doesn't bother me a bit. >> hillary clinton emerging from her congressional grilling after enduring over eight hours of aggressive questioning. >> i'm not asking what the arb did. i'm asking what you did. >> i followed the law, congressman. >> by the benghazi committee republican members. >> that's not the question. search terms mean terms. what terms did you use and what were the date parameters? what date did you start and the
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e-mails in between there we're going to look at? >> well, congressman, i asked my attorneys to oversee the process. i did not look over their shoulder. >> reporter: in the end, the committee broke very little new ground as republicans tried to paint clinton as directly responsible or negligent on the assault on the u.s. mission in benghazi that claimed the lives of u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. they highlighted asks for extra security that were denied by state department officials. >> here's basically what happened to their requests. they were torn up. >> reporter: and questioned whether clinton was involved enough in diplomatic efforts in the country where she had pushed for u.s. intervention. >> did you ever talk to ambassador stevens when all of this was going on in the hot bed of libya? that is a yes or no question, madam secretary. i'm sorry. >> i believe i did. >> when was that? >> i don't recall. >> reporter: but there is still no smoking gun. even committee chairman trey gowdy said he didn't learn much
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more from clinton. >> i don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous time she testified. >> reporter: democrats insisted the hearing was a partisan witch hunt. >> i don't know what we want from you. we're better than that. >> reporter: as the top democrat on the committee tangled with chairman gowdy, clinton could be seen smiling. >> why is it you only want mr. blumenthal's transcript released? >> i want all of them released. >> i think it is imminently fair to ask why sydney blumenthal had unfettered access to you, madam secretary, with whatever he wanted to talk about and there's not a single solitary e-mail to or from you to or from ambassador stevens. >> reporter: at one point,
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clinton let her emotions show. >> i thought more about what happened than all of you put together. i've lost more sleep than all of you put together. >> reporter: now, today, a much friendlier venue for hillary clinton. she will head over the potomac river just a few miles outside of washington, d.c. to alexandria, virginia where she'll hold a campaign event and be side by side with virginia governor terri mcauliffe who is a long-time friend and sporter. alisyn? >> brianna, thanks so much for that. we want to bring in ohio congressman jim jordan. he's a republican on the house select committee on benghazi. thanks so much for being here. you had what was by most accounts, the defining moment of the hearing. and that is when you revealed the first time many of us ever saw this, some e-mail exchanges between hillary clinton and the prime minister of egypt and her daughter, chelsea.
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in which she said in the hours after the benghazi attack, this was a terror attack. she said it a couple of different ways. it seemed unequivocal. she called it a terror attack. >> yes. >> that's not what the press secretary jay carney said in the days afterwards. that's not what ambassador susan rice said in the days afterwards. let me play for everyone how hillary clinton responded to you, apparently catching her in this spin. listen to this. >> there was a lot of conflicting information that we were trying to make sense of, the situation was very fluid. it was fast moving. there was also a claim of responsibility by ansar al sharia. when i talked to the egyptian prime minister, i said this was a claim of responsibility by ansar al sharia, a group that was affiliated or at least wanted to be affiliated with al qaeda. sometime after that, the next day, early the next morning
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after that on the 12th or 13th, they retracted their claim of responsibility. >> congressman, do you accept her explanation? >> no, because that's not all she said to the egyptian prime minister. she said to the egyptian prime minister, we know, not i think, we know it was not the film. it was a planned attack, not a protest. that is a straightforward language as you can get. in private she was straightforward. she was forthcoming. publicly it was the video inspired protest narrative. it was a completely different narrative she could tell the american people. she could tell her family the truth, she could tell the egyptian prime minister the truth, she could tell the president of libya the truth but she wasn't straight with the american people. that's a fundament function of this country. >> let's sigh you're right and the white house made a political calculation not to call this a terror attack because president obama was in the middle of a re-election. now what? where does this take you now?
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what's the up shot? who goes to jail for being politically expedient. >> it's not that i'm right. that's what the facts show. if the facts show that relevantive to to what they tried to communicate publicly versus what they were saying privately, let's go to the situation today. we know secretary clinton and her legal team got to decide which e-mails belonged to the taxpayer and which ones were private. the fbi has that server. let's suppose the fbi finds deleted e-mails or e-mails that were wiped or whatever and they discover there's information work related and specifically even related to libya. will you allow a neutral third party, like a retired federal judge to look at that information and say if it applies to our investigation, give us that information. you know what her response was? i don't think we can do that. we know they ms. led the american people on the very night of the attack. we know she controlled the information, her e-mail, which
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are public, which are private. that's why it's relevant. >> what's the up shot for you? again, i think, sadly, americans accept that politicians make decisions that sometimes involve political spin. what do you want to see happen if in fact your scenario is accurate? >> our charge has always been to get to the truth, alisyn. that's what we're trying to do. that's why we want a neutral third party like a retired federal judge to examine it. just this week, we got 5,000 e-mails from ambassador stevens. none of the other committees had access to that information and we're just now getting it. that's how long this takes this state department, this administration to get us the record and information. that's what's so frustrating. you can't get to the truth if you can't get the record and all the information. she's putting up road block and the state department is putting up road blocks. >> even the chairman of your committee, trey gowdy admitted after the 11-hour marathon session that he wasn't sure
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anything new really had come out. listen to what he said last night. >> i think some of jimmy jordan's questioning -- when you say new today, we knew about the e-mails already. in terms of her testimony? i don't know if she testified that much differently than she has the previous times she testified. >> $4.5 million, taxpayer dollars, 11 hours yesterday and more than a year investigation, what is new now? >> when you started this segment off by talking about breaking news. she was saying a completely different story to her family and the egyptian prime minister. that was new. the fact that she won't let a neutral third party like a retired federal judge look ator e-mail situation is news. the focus is on getting to the truth. we'll continue to do that. of course she gave the same answers. she stuck to her story.
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that i guess is not that surprising. what we're trying to do is get her to give us the information so we can get to the truth for the american taxpayer, the american people and probably most importantly, for the families of the four individuals who died that day. >> this is always the part that confuses me. the narrative that you and many republicans have stuck to is what happened afterwards in terms of was it a video, was it a terror attack? it's the spin afterwards. it's what susan rice said that is so upsetting. but what about how does that affect before, the cause of this? and how to better protect people and better get the funding that came up to make sure that all of our embassies and consulates are protected? >> alisyn, there were lots of questions about that. i've done questions about that in my role offer the oversight committee as well. 200 security instances in libya leading up to the -- in the 13 months prior to the attack, repeated requests for additional security, they were denied. we focused on that issue, too, trying to make sure there's less
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chance this kind of tragedy can happen. >> i don't mean not focused. you're right. you did ask questions. i mean solutions. have we come out of this where embassies will be better fund? solutions so this doesn't happen anymore? do you feel you've made headway on solutions? >> i think we have. i think there were some things that were positive in the accountability review board. it certainly was an independent review. there were positive suggestions that came out of that that are being implemented as we speak to better protect people around the world who serve in our diplomatic core. that is important. we want your -- we need our government officials to be square with us that's a fundamental hallmark of what our country is all about. >> how do you think ultimately this has affected hillary clinton? do you think that what happened yesterday affected her chances of becoming president? >> alisyn, that's not my call. that's not my charge. the american people will decide that. >> do you think she was damaged
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at all by what happened in the hearing yesterday? >> i think we have to get to the truth and it would be a lot easier if they'd be straight with us. the state department would give us the information we need. the obama administration would be more accommodateing. you would think the democrats would want to help us get the record, get the information. we've interviewed 50 people that the other committees didn't interview. we've interviewed seven eyewitnesses. you would think they'd want to help us get the record and information. we don't have all of hillary clinton's e-mails. she got to decide. >> the democrats say you have all of the relevant e-mails and that the accountability review board basically was the final word on this. >> we may have all the relevant ones as determined by her. that's why i push, we may not have, may not have, i stress that, maybe she gave them all to us they made some mistakes. they didn't give us 15 we were supposed to get. >> how long does this go on? how much longer does that go on? >> you'd have to ask the
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chairman. but, again, if we'd get more help and accommodation instead of so many road blocks we could get this done and answers to the american people. >> congressman jim jordan. we appreciate talking to you. thank you. in the next hour, we'll speak with presidential candidate rand paul and luis gutierrez. ben carson with a commanding lead in iowa over the man who had been the front-runner there, here, everywhere. donald trump. look at thesen brad new numbers from the "des moines register." carson leads trump by nine points. this is the second poll in 24 thundershowers that puts carson on top there. the quinnipiac had him up eight. we'll have much more on what this means for the self-proclaimed winner, donald trump. that's ahead. another new poll out of iowa giving hillary clinton a boost, just hours after that benghazi testimony. this quinnipiac university poll just released this hour, it shows clinton leading democratic
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wow. look at that. the second poll in two days which shows ben carson with a pretty sizable lead in iowa be beating a man named donald trump, a man who had led there for some time, led around the country for some tile. he trails in the first voting state by nine points. this is from the des moines register, considered the gold standard of iowa polling and bloomberg politics as well. what does this mean for the republican side of the race? john avalon joins us, cnn political analyst, editor in chief of the daily beast. oh, we will talk about the rains. first i want to start on the democratic side. hillary clinton had a busy day yesterday. >> a little bit. >> you may have seen. 11 hours in front of congress taking questions on benghazi. john avalon, you called this a rope-a-dope success for hillary clinton. >> yes. >> what does that mean? >> which suggests in a way she got what she wanted. what is that? >> i know john berman loves sports metaphors. let's go back to rumble in the
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jungle, ali versus foreman. you wait for your opponent to knock themselves out. grand standing on both sides, rains wanted the attack ad, there's grand standing on both sides. when she is on the receiving end of that kind of testimony, at some point, your opponents punch themselves out. the key question to understand in the benghazi hearing is this, would we have spent this amount of money on the eighth committee and the ten hours of testimony if hillary clinton was not running for president? >> he revealed he feels she did not tell the truth, the administration did not tell the truth in the days after the benghazi attack. >> jordan's e-mails about cricks between private and public staples will need clarification by the hillary clinton camp and is a worthy question. the problem is by doing that in ten hours as opposed to two or three, it dilutes the impact. by making this political and partisan as opposed to
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bipartisan, that diminishes the credibility and the honor of the individuals. >> from clarification to illumination. >> nicely done. >> let's talk about the republican side of the race, the des moines register poll. ben carson, 28%, donald trump 19%. donald trump says he's a wehner. not in the des moines register poll out minutes ago. >> today. that is in fact true. the iowa caucus is a strange beast that we all re-acquaint ourselves with. this is a relatively small group of republicans that turn out. they are overwhelmingly evangelical. ben carson is really the hometown hero, even more than a mike huckabee or rick santorum who won the caucus the last time around. ben carson has deep support with favorabilities that are sky high and even his controversial comments about muslims or adolf hitler don't seem to have turned those folks off. more than 70% seem to like them. >> is this a true setback or an anomaly of iowa caucus.
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>> this follows another quinnipiac poll that follows a similar trend. he's been ahead in national polls for almost 100 days now. >> he still is. this is an iowa trend. >> absolutely. iowa matters disproportionately. it sets the narrative. donald trump winning iowa would frankly be weird given the demographics that turn out for the caucus. this is a challenge. he has to address it and try to turn it around. >> there's one area donald trump does lead in this poll, when ask ed which xaecandidate do voters want to drop out the most? donald trump at 25%, jeb bush 22%, graham, pataki and chris christie as well. strong negative sentiment for trump isn't new either. he's dealt with that all along. he'll take that as long as he has the strong sentiment on his
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side. >> he will. ben carson has high favorability, minuscule unfavorability right now. rubio is doing well with the favorability ratings. here's the other thing about donald trump supporters, though, in contrast to carson. they're the least likely to be swayed away from their candidate at this point. carson has a lot of room to grow. trump's hard-core supporters say they aren't going anywhere. >> let's look at what people say are his at tribute attributes. they like that he's not a career politician, by 85%. guided by his faith in god, 89%. approaches issues with common sense, 96%. no foreign policy experience. that's split. 49% find that unattractive, 42% find that attractive. >> it's not really what a president does, foreign policy. this is a surreal moment. one of the things this poll shows, actually, for a third of iowa caucusgoers, no experience
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that is relevant to presidential executive responsibilities is a net positive. it is a net positive. so this is a bit of a surreal moment we're living through. >> i think what you're seeing on this poll is what we are not seeing, by we, sitting here in new york and washington about what's going on in iowa. ben carson is doing stuff. it's on social media, in mail, at churches. there are meetings beginning on that we are not seeing here. there are supporters talking who are finding his message attractive. >> absolutely. you've got to understand that ben carson is a real hometown hero for evangelicals. his book has been selling for over a decade. the amount of mail he's been sending out is stunning. for grass roots donors who are also the vast majority of his don't ares, for evangelicals he's been a real hero for a long time. he's much more of a household name than folks in the beltway can appreciate. >> john avalon, great to have you here. >> we want to know your take on
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>> well, that was one of the more solemn moments for hillary clinton and the panel during the marathon, benghazi testimony. does her performance mark a turning point in her campaign? let's bring in carl bernstein, and matt lewis, a contributor for the daily caller and conservative commentator. what did you think of her composure, of her personality? everything that came through? she sort of ran the gamut. there were times she looked sarcastic. let me show you, the different faces of hillary clinton during this yesterday. you can see she looks bored sometimes, disconnected. there are times that she looks a little imperious. there are times she looked emotional. what did you think of how she performed. >> she did more than run the gamut. she ran the show. we got a look at what president
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hillary clinton would be like. she was in command, she knew the facts as they wanted to recite them. they had real context, she was unflappable. she was competent. she knew the terrain. that's what we would see in a clinton presidency. but the issue of how she bends facts and whether you call that bending or sometimes veering too far from the literal truth, that's going to be an issue in this campaign and continue to be. but she really bought herself an awful lot of room yesterday. it was really impressive. >> matt lewis, you come to this from the conservative side. you don't know this but i stalk you on twitter. you had interesting stuff yesterday. in some ways you go further than carl. you said not only did she come out on top in this hearing, you went as far as to say hillary clinton has her groove back. you compared it to a karma shift in a playoff game where all of a sudden one team starts to run away with it. you say that's what's happening with hillary clinton right now. >> it seems like it.
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wow. she was struggling so bad this summer and she seemed very unlikable. she just did not seem to be rising to the occasion. i think the turning point was actually kevin mccarthy's benghazi gaffe. if you look at that as a turning point, ever since then, you have the great debate performance that hillary had. now, vb vb dropping out and now this benghazi -- kyle call it a performance. republicans have valid points, they just didn't make them very well yesterday. maybe there's legal possibilities that, you know, going back, did hillary perjure herself yesterday? >> let me reiterate. matt is a conservative commentator. he's coming at this from that side. >> carl, you've studied hillary clinton, written the definitive biography on her. these past two weeks have been a charmed time in her life. >> it comes from real work and it also comes from the real
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destructiveness of the republican approach to dealing with hillary clinton. this hearing yesterday was a travesty. you'd have to go back in old history to the days of joe mccarthy and the house on american activities committee to find the kind of demagoguery, badgering and hectoring that she underwent as a result of the excess of the members of that committee. it was ugly. it was disgraceful in terms of what the congress of the united states ought to be. she rose above it. you heard me say to you, actually, i said she was going to make monk ceys out of them. she managed to do it by taking the facts and bend them how she wanted them interpreted. >> isn't another way of saying
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that a lie? >> no. david gergen, our colleague here gave my colleague, bob wordwaod a great answer. do you trust him? >> i don't think she lies. she's careful with the truth. i think that's -- there's a kind of parsing that goes on. but what we saw in the hearing was context. her enemies have never understood context. both hillary and bill clinton do and unless the republicans come to understand context, she's going to be the president of the united states if things keep going like they are. >> well, matt, if you buy carl's argument, in fact your argument about how well she's doing right now this week and maybe through the primaries with be that gets you, i suppose, through the nomination. i do think that there are republicans out there, there are voters out there who have been looking at benghazi for a long time and watch these hearings yesterday and saw material that
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they think supports their side of the argument. what can you see in terms of useable substance that rains, whoever the nominee is, would use against her in a general election when that time comes? >> look, i think there were some very legitimate -- i think the hearing was legitimate. there were legitimate concerns raised. for example, ambassador stevens, why did hillary clinton not even know about his requests for help? why did she argue this was a video responsible for what happened in benghazi, not a spontaneous terrorist uprising? there's some discrepancies there. i don't think that republicans were able -- there was no sound bite. 11 hours of hillary clinton talking, you didn't have a single time when there's a sound bite of her saying something like, what difference does it make? the sound bite you have is her talking about her losing sleep over what happened there. i think that the average person watching comes away thinking that this is a nonissue and that hillary has in fact passed the
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test. >> we had that moment because it was one of the more solemn moments. she had to play it emotionally right. watch her talking about losing sleep. sorry. we done have the it. basically my point is, whoever helped counsel her on this, she had to figure out what the line was, if she was being overly emotional, seeming overly angry, seeming disgusted, seeming yet poignant and she had to hit the right note. >> i don't doubt for a minute she did lose sleep over this. any person in her position who cares about the human beings involved would lose sleep over it. and again by going on the attack the way the republicans have, they tried to dehumanize her. it didn't work when you go like that. what's been wrong about the whole benghazi approach is that this has been a murder trial of hillary clinton from the beginning. by the right wing of the
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republican party. instead of a really serious debate over the policies of the obama presidency, of her as secretary of state. they've tried to hang her. >> yes. >> it's not very smart. >> matt? >> i think one of the real problems, honestly, is optics. you have a southern white man like trey gowdy who's essentially asking, interrogating hillary clinton. i felt when it was martha roby or some of the remail republife republicans asking her questions, it was much more effective. >> or tammy duckworth. >> thank you. coming up on "new day," we'll speak with presidential candidate rand paul about how he thought the hearings went as well as democratic congressman luis gutierrez. hurricane patricia, this is an incredible storm, folks, the strong of the hurricane we believe in recorded history.
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all right. happening right now, we have our eye on a monster hurricane, category 5 storm. the strongest ever in record
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history bearing down on the mexican coast right now. 200 mile-per-hour winds and forecasters rightly warning of potential catastrophe. want to bring in a noted astrophysicist, the host of "nat geo star talk." there's a real problem with 200 mile-per-hour winds. if it hits the coast like that -- >> yes, 200 -- you can read the damage, the damage appropriate for each one of these rankings, you know, category 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. there's a nice google page on this. it's like a dissent to hell. category 5 is there's essentially nothing standing in its path. >> that's starting at 150 miles per hour. this is 200. >> yes. it's sustained winds. it's not like a tornado where it will wipe out anything in its
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narrow path. hurricanes can wipe out entire cities. >> they think this will be the strongest hurricane in history. what are we to make of that? why are things getting stronger? is this a blip? >> you can look globally and see weather misbehaving. that's not good. you can't look at one storm and claim larger consequences from it. what will happen, you know, the atmosphere, the oceans, the air temperature, all of this is part of the system of climate that's going on on earth. we're not really helping those matters. >> and in fact, we're just getting measurements recently, this is looking to be the hottest year on record. >> yes, yes, i just saw those data. also consider that when you measure the strength of a hurricane not only by the winds but by how low the atmosphering pressure is in the center. that's what clouds want to do. they see a low pressure and they
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all want to go to the low pressure center. that's why low pressures are mats of rain and clouds and destructive forces. it all gathers to that central point. >> and so i mean, are these connected? 2015 being the hottest year on record, this being the strongest hurricane. >> well, so just for disclosure, since i was going to be in this interview before you knew this hurricane was going to show up, i'm happy to field what i know. really you should bring in a meteorologist to give you the full depth of what's going on around the world. it's cosmic assets that are bringing you these images. >> we are seeing these pictures from space. >> we will have a meteorologist on, just rest assured. >> ip happy to say this, the space assets inform the meteorologists what the past, present and future of the storms will be. >> just to tie you into the other news we've been talking
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about today about the clintons. you have a clinton on the premiere of your nat geo show "star talk." it's bill clinton. you booked a clinton in the news right now. >> i've got a clinton. i've got a clinton. >> there are three and they're all good. >> you want a clinton? i have a clinton for you. "star talk" we inverted the model of what eye talk show would be. it's the first ever talk show based on science. i'm the host. i'm the scientist. my guests are hardly ever scientists. we're opening on sunday night with bill clinton. so the conversation goes, i asked them about the way science has touched their lives. that's how the show unfolds. so you might be a fan of whoever is the guest. i have david crosby coming. you'll learn maybe for the first time he was a huge science fiction buff in his early life before he pend a single note of a song he was reading science
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fiction. we bring people from pop cull tear and reveal their geek underbelly. >> talking about science on television, can that work? >> asking for a friend. >> consider that like the number one movie was "the martian." look at how much science is being presented to us, not only by me but by a whole stratum of entertainers with marquee directors performing in movies that are blockbuster movies. the martian, science and technologies were characters portrayed in the film. >> we'll see if nominations come science's way. the new season of "star talk" debuts on sunday. >> i love the harmony of science. >> great to see you. when asked about his favorite superhero, republican
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presidential hopeful jeb bush's answer is super awkward. will his comment about super girl be his political kryptonite? we'll show you that? a moment.
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well we've seen plenty of foot in mouth moment already in the campaign trail. >> thought you were talking about me. >> and with john. but jeb bush was trying to answer a softball question seemingly about his favorite superhero and it took an awkward turn. >> reporter: just as supergirl's new show is about to premier she exploded. onto the stage of presidential politics. >> are you sure you're bullet proof? >> hope so. >> bullets may bounce off super girl but jeb bush shot himself in the foot answering this question. >> who is your favorite superhero? >> reporter: jeb should have stuck with his first answer which was bat man. but instead he brought up the
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young female caped crusader who can lower a crashing jet line tore -- liner to a safe landing. >> super girl when i was working out that morning there was an ad promoting super girl. she looked pretty hot. >> hot is a term presidential candidates usually apply to say the weather rather than that 27-year-old actor. even jeb didn't need x-ray vision to see. >> that will make news. >> one comment. ugh. the woman is about the same age as his children. what a creep. versus the counter argument. so he said that tv supergirl was hot. what's wrong with that? >> you need a crime. there is a car chase on the 112 freeway. >> i could do a car chase. maybe jeb should follow the lead of donald trump when it comes to
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superheros. >> but super girl and jeb bush do have one thing in common. both seem to have a pension for unbuttoning their shirts to reveal their true selves. cnn, new york. >> just so i understand the parameters here, what am i allowed to say about wonder woman? >> well what you have already said during commercial breaks i can tell you is over the line. i can tell you a window into the psyche but he gave a window into his lib doe accidently. >> i don't know. >> you're -- this is fair game to you. >> yeah. i didn't think it was crazy. all right. presidential candidate rand paul. who is his favorite superhero? no. we're going to talk serious issues coming up with him. he mocked hillary clinton's testimony on benghazi. what does he think this morning about the state of the presidential race. >> this sunday at 9:00 p.m.
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you rar . welcome back to your "new day." we begin with breaking news for you. because the strongest hurricane in recorded history is bearing down on mexico. hurricane patricia, packing unprecedented winds of 200 miles per hour. >> yeah this could be a huge problem. hundreds of miles of coastline under a hurricane warning as the hurricane is scheduled to make land fall tonight. forecasters warning of a possibly catastrophe from floods, mud slides, huge waves. cnn meteorologist chad meyers in the weather center. frankly people have never seen anything like this before. >> no. not anything called a hurricane. there was one storm, typhoon tip, on the other side of the
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pacific ocean, slightly stronger many many years ago. but this is the only hurricane that's ever been this powerful. 200 miles per hour. think about that. almost like an f 4 or 5 tornado that can be five or six miles wide just tearing up the coast as it makes land fall. the hurricane winds are only at 30 miles from the center but after that they begin to drop off. but imagine being in the center of this eye where the winds are doing 10 to 15 miles per hour and then get hid by the eye wall doing 200 miles per hour. it will be a devastating blow. just north of the puerta vallarta mexico. manzanillo will take a very very direct hit. and also the amount of rainfall that could come in could be 18 inches in the mountain areas guys. and all that rain will have to run back down. mud slides, flash flood warniin.
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this is going to be a major impact. understand hurricane andrew hitting the islands and homestead at 165 is 35 miles an hour slower than right here with patricia. >> we all remember the destruction by katrina and andrew. and wasn't there a call in kcab last year? >> absolutely. the west coast does get quite a few hurricanes. because of the el nino the water down there is 2 to 3 degrees warmer than it should be. that warm water from el nino probably just pushed this slightry over the edge to be the biggest storm on record. >> chad, scheduled to hit the
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coast of mexico maybe as soon as tonight. any impact on the u.s. is this. >> certainly. i think so. this is going to get torn up in the sierra madres. that is the rocky mountains for mexico. so that is going to take a lot of it up. but there will be still be some moisture leftover to get into texas, arkansas, louisiana as the moisture goes by on saturday and sunday. but we're already going to see in texas maybe 8-10 inches of rain from a completely separate storm. i don't want to add it up. then all of a sudden -- >> we'll bring the developments to the viewers. you will be back soon with us. meanwhile our ore top story. and that is hillary clinton's 11 hour testimony in front of the benghazi testimony.
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what does this mean for the white house bid? >> reporter: her campaign is feeling pretty good about what in means for a white house bid. this was a fete of stamina yesterday. and one clinton campaign aid said to me "that was a president sitting there." no doubt they are ecstatic but republicans found clinton perhaps not surprisingly evasive. >> i really don't care what you all say about me. it doesn't bother me a bit. >> after enduring over eight hours of aggressive questioning. >> i'm not asking what the arb did. i'm asking what you did. >> i followed the law congressman. >> that's not answer the question -- search terms means terms. what terms did you use and what were the date parameters the date you start the end date and the e-mails in between there we are going to look at. >> congressman, i asked my attorneys to oversee the process.
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did not look over their shoulder. >> in the end the committee broke very little new ground as republicans tried to paint clinton as directly responsible for negligent in the assault on benghazi that claimed the lives of u.s. ambassador stevens and three other americans. they highlighted requests for security that were denied by state department officials. >> here is what happened to their requests. they were torn up. >> in question whether clinton was involved enough in diplomatic efforts in the country where she had pushed for diplomatic intervention. >> did you ever talk to ambassador stevens when all of this was going on in the hot bed of libya? that is a yes or no question madam secretary, i'm sorry. >> i believe i did. >> when was that. >> i don't recall. >> there is still no smoking gun. even trey gowdy said he didn't learn much more. >> i don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has previous times she's testified.
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>> democrats insisted the hearing was a partisan witch hunt. >> i don't know what we want from you. do we want to damager you over and over again until you get tired and we do get the gotcha moment that he's talking about? we're better than that. >> as the top democrat on the committee tangled with chairman gowdy, clinton could be seen smiling. >> why is it you only want mr. blumenthal's transcript released? >> -- clinton's long time friend and lightning rod who frequently sent her unsourced intelligence on libya while having a business in the country. >> i think it is elementally fair to ask why sidney blumenthal had unfettered access to you and there is not a single solitary e-mail to or from you to or from ambassador stevens. >> at one point clinton let her emotions show. >> i've thought more about this
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than all of you put together. i've lost more sleep than all of you put together. >> and today hillary clinton will be in friendlier territory. speaking to the dnc and then to a campaign event with a long time friend virginia governor terry mcauliffe. it is definitely democratic territory. >> thanks for the background. during the benghazi hearing elijah cummings slammed candidates who he said spread false information about hillary clinn. here is just part of what he said. >> senator ryan paul said benghazi was a 3:00 a.m. phone call that she never picked up. everyone on this panel knows these accusations are baseless. from our own investigation and all of those before it.
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yet republican members of this select committee remain silent. >> republican presidential candidate senator rand paul joins us now. we should mention he has a new book out. "our presidents and their prayers: proclamations of their faith." >> thank you. >> do you want to respond. >> i think the 3:00 a.m. phone call was when he said i think we're in danger of being overrun we need to stay in charge of benghazi. and i think she left you are ambassador defenseless and that is an incredibly important question. and a that was her 3:00 a.m. phone call. she advertised president obama wouldn't -- >> do you feel that was addressed yesterday? >> a little bit. there was some discussion. but to mi it's always been the most important thing for nine months leading up to the assassination in benghazi there
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were multimillion requests. >> she says they didn't come to her. that those are handled at a lower level. >> i know. but she's in charge. she was the secretary of state. she's in charge of all of that. when you are president of the united states there are a lot of people that work for you. but ultimately if we go to war, the president is to blame. they deserve credit and blame because they are in charge. >> this conversation mirrors the same one some people like donald trump are having about george w. bush during the 9/11. how many responsibility do presidents or secretaries of state bear for a surprise terror attack? do you see these as parallel? is george w. bush responsible for 9/11 in the same way? >> i think ultimately woe have to start with the terrorists are responsible. >> of course. >> and then once we genotype beyond that there are some parallels. we looked at very extensively 9/11. and to me what was always the biggest mistake is we caught the 20th hijacker a month in advance
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of 9/11 and didn't do anything about it. so ultimately yes the fbi made some mistakes. >> and did george w bush. >> well he is responsible for all of government. and there is some -- i think this in this case requests were made for more security and they were denied and that is on hillary clinton's watch. >> let's talk about your take away from yesterday. this 11 hour marathon. what's interesting is that you are a small government guy. you rale against big government. you rale against waste. has this been a proper use of 4.5 million taxpayer dollars. >> i think we do have to learn from history. for example, we should learn that hillary's war in libya was a disaster for our country and has made us less safe. made the region more chaotic. and approximate we don't learn that how are we going to know what to do now in syria?
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same for iraq. george bush's decision to go into iraq for the first iraq war was a big mistake. and both times we toppled a dictator and both times chaos. >> this hearing. 11 hour hearing and how it's gone on for some 18 months that's been adequate use of $4.5 million? >> we need to know that when we have a mission overseas we have toe defend it. and it need to have adequate security. is and i think what we're learning is under hillary clinton's watch she did not provide the adequate security even though it was "not one time, not two times but probably a dozen times they asked for help and it was denied. >> so you don't see this as republican overreach and waste of time and money is this. >> if we learn from history i think it is really important. we're always talking about getting back involved in the middle east. and i think it's important to learn not only did hillary clinton not only defense, she
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started the war. she encouraged our involvement in immaterial. she was probably the key pronate in the admission trying to bet obama to go to war in libya and that was a terrible mistake. this and yesterday's hearing of does for her presidential campaign? >> i don't think it's good for her. i i've always said i think she's going to have a tough time convincing the american public she'll defend our country. >> do you think as so many pundits and even conservative ones we've had on this morning say she so comported herself against their arguing. they were squabbling. some of the republicans were squabbling with elijah cummings. and that she seemed more composed. do you think that helps her? >> you know i think she ran this strong campaign against president obama saying she'd be there for the 3:00 a.m. moment. i think this was her 3:00 a.m. moment and when she was called
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didn't provided a t adequate security in benghazi. >> you are focused on something different than the other republicans. they are focused on the videotape. on why she said one thing that it was a terror attack and then later the administration said it was a videotape. what do you think of that that keeps continuing? was it a the videotape? a terror attack? was it political spin? >> i guess i'm less interested in what happened in the spin afterwards is i kind of assume politicians to be deceitful and to spin what they do to try to put nit a favorable light. so what is important to me is why didn't she read the cables? i had one or two questions when i cross-examinationed her in my committee and i said did you read the cables and she admitted she didn't. but i don't think it is enough to slough this off to underlings and say it was somebody else's fault. i was busy traveling. the problem is libya was one of the most dangerous places in the world and it was her job to know
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the ambassador was pleading for help. >> the fact is some are so fixated on the video are they wasting time. >> i think it's important to know the whole story. one thing yesterday she was sending e-mails to her daughter that night saying it was a terrorist attack. it is kind of curious for a whole week. saying it was about some movie when they new initially and she's already sendingen e-mail to her daughter. >> she said that he went because he wanted to do reconnaissance. he wanted to get information out of an insurgency that was happening there. does that adequately answer your question? >> my question has always been what is the cia annex doing there? she claimed in her testimony they had nothing to do with providing arms into syria. this is very important. she claimed she has no knowledge
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and that it wasn't occurring. that the cia annex had nothing to do with funneling arms syria. i don't believe that to be true. i don't think she's being honest with us. and i think the cia annex did have something to do with routing arms into syria. whether or not it was the cia or they were using a proxy, they were gathering up arms in libya. they were looking for 15,000 man pads, surface to air missiles and gathering them up. but what were they doing and were they a conduit to arms into syria in i think they were. >> she addressed that. let's play a moment. >> were you aware or are you aware of any efforts to provide any weapons directly or indirectly or through a cut out to any rebels or militia or opposition to gaddafi's forces. >> that was a very long question. and i think the answer is no. >> were you aware and/or are you of any u.s. efforts in libya to provide weapons directly or
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indirectly or through a cut out to any syrian rebels or opposition to syrian forces? >> no. >> is she lying? is. >> the "new york times" has reported years and years that the cia has been funneling arms into syria. what was the cia annex doing in libya? that question wasn't completely addressed there. >> she didn't run the cia she -- >> i can tell you that what i've read in the newspaper is consistent also what people are talking about in hearings in washington. the cia has been involved with getting arms into syria. that's well known knowledge. what was the cia annex doing in libya -- the reason it's an important question is why would the ambassador go to a row mote consulate. there were reports in the "new york times" and other paper that the turkish ship left libya a day or two before full of arnls and they have interviews with
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the syrian rebels getting the arms off the ship disputing over who got what arms. this is all out there and the fact that she's still denying it. she could say it's classified. she can't talked about it. but the fact that she's denying it, i wonder whether or not she's telling the truth. >> one quick question about the presidential race and the new poll come out just this morning in des moines. let me show you how voters in iowa are feeling. ben carson has leapfrogged trump. he's at 28%. you are fifth at 5%. what do you make of these numbers? >> i think the polls are still a jumble. i think they are very loose polls of people leaning one way or another. i think they will change many times. in 2008 rudygiuliani was up five months and never won the primary. we're in the middle.
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we have a strong ground game. we think we have the strongest organization in iowa right now. >> and does that go as far or further than the appeal with evangelicals. >> a little bit of both. we have appeal across the board. we also appeal to student, independents because we don't think it is a good idea to be back at war. i'm not going to send our sons and daughters back into iraq. because i think the first war was a mistake and i'm not sending them back for a second one. >> senator paul, thank you. >> more on hillary clinton's benghazi testimony. what will the fall out be? how bad the impact on her campaign? that is all next. people don't have to think about where their electricity comes from.
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all right. we do have breaking news. a development in the presidential race. one fewer candidate as of just a few moments ago. the former rhode island governor, former rhode island senator lincoln chafee just dropped out of the democratic primary. what are the consequences of this announcement? joining us cnn political comm t commentators. lincoln chafee, we hardly knew you.
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>> >> in you are a seriousness. so that stage, there were five people at debate. two have dropped out since. one guy not on the stage we thought might get in was joe biden. he's not in. all of a sudden this democrat race looks very is a small. >> yeah this is a problem with joe biden not getting in. now that the field is even smaller i think the democrats who wanted biden to get in, maybe not because it was joe biden but because they were unsatisfied with the current field are now going to feel like the field is offering them less and there are less interesting ideas on the stage whether it is a debate stage or just the campaign trail. and i think you might hear frustration again from democrats to say we need someone else to get in. and there really isn't anyone left. >> in fact let's look at the latest polls.
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hold on to that thought, paul for a second. because this is just out an hour ago. this shows how iowa democrats are feeling. hillary clinton has seen some big gains. 51% support clinton for the nominee. 40% support sanders. o'malley gets 4 percent and that is up from 40% last month for clint clinton. >> and keep in mind hillary's run for president before. that's pretty impressive for me. i am for hillary. i advise a superb pac. but she doesn't have to win every primary caucus. interestingly both have favorable ratings over 80%. the reason no one else is in the race is there is not a market for a fourth ar fifth or 17th candidate. if there were a market someone would get in.
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but there's not. democrats this is weird. you usually hate ourselves and our leaders and hate our establishment culturally. we love hillary. and we love bernie. so we're very happy with the markets right now. >> bloomberg coming out with a poll that shows ben carson out in front of the iowa race and by a lot. 28%. up nine on donald trump. this is second poll in two days that shows carson with a lead over trump in iowa. has the bubble been burst here? >> maybe. iowa is a very interesting place. in recent history the iowa caucus has been won by fairly establishment republicans. george h.w. bush. and then george w. bush. dole twice. but in modern politics it's gone to more evangelicals.
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huckab huckabee, santorum. neither went to clinch the surprising that someone like carson is doing well in iowa. if he actually wins the iowa caucus, i don't think he's set up very well for new hampshire or the rest of the map. but it would certainly maybe jolt donald trump off of his pedestal and make things a little bit more difficult for him going forward. i don't think trump plays all that well in new hampshire either. >> what does this new poll showing ben carson's ascendance in iowa mean for trump? >> it means that mr. trump -- right now he's still the national front runner by a mile. right? but it means he may have to retool. she's right. in the last few years in the republican side it's gone to the strongest christian evangelical. dr. carson has powerful faith. remarkable faith.
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and we all respect that. and in iowa that is really going to resonate well in iowa among those faith voters. >> you have to do it paul. you have to get one in? >> i have to. it is too great a line. but that community is really, really powerful. but -- in the republican side, you know, what my friends in new hampshire say. the republicans is well iowa picks corn but new hampshire picks presidents. in the republican party the new better hinter of the nominee. i want to turn to benghazi now and the eleven hours of testimony we heard on capitol hill yesterday. we heard both democrats and republicans say this morning that hillary clinton weathered the storm. that maybe there were some new things there but the game -- and i shouldn't use the word game but the atmosphere surrounding benghazi has not changed as of now. >> yeah as i said yesterday the benghazi cake is baked.
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i think if you are following the benghazi story and all of these hearings you have made up your mind about what the benghazi hearings are about. you have either decided it is a partisan witch hunt meant to attack hillary clinton or you have decided that there are serious questions that still need answering and that she's not been held accountable. if you are not following it, i don't think you learned anything or changed your mind about anything or this is going to pull you into the election yesterday. so i think you would look at what happened yesterday and i think you could say very fairley that republicans i think made some good points and reinforced some existing themes and questions around hillary clinton's role in benghazi. and if you are a democrat you could say she went through it really well. she looked poised. she handled herself great. in fact i heard from a republican who said she's never looked more presidential. good for her. it was good for her for sure.
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but i think republicans also cemented some narratives that already existed. >> and yet paul -- and because of those narratives we just had congressman jim jordan on the program who said -- >> let me guess. he endorsed hillary. >> no he did not. >> my bad. >> he said this is not going away. he's calling for an independent judge to look at why she misled people after she admitted to chelsea in the e-mail that this was a terror attack. what do you think paul? do you think the republicans can take this further, there will be more months of investigation? or what happens next? >> they will never stop. the only cure for hillary hating is embalming fluid. they will hate her as long as we breathe. and that is just part of being hillary. i don't quite understand it. i don't know congressman jordan and i'm sure he's a lovely man. i do not understand this. but it is not working politically. i have no idea psychologically what kind of demons drive that
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kind of hatred. but it is not working at all. she has had a run. she had a terrible summer. we all covered it. she had a lot of rough bumps in the road over the summer. in the last ten days she had a stellar debate performance. even when the the expectations set high. the vice president decided not to run which is a huge relief and then now eleven hours of testimony. super human. endurance and stamina and i think grace and grit. she's my friend and this is one of the few times i can't talk to her because of the super pac. i'm so proud of how she performed especially when being harassed by lil pugss like congressman -- >> yes or no quickly. did hillary clinton clear all three hurdles she had, joe biden debate and benghazi successful in. >> i would say yes to the first two. like i said on the biden thing, if there is this abc anyone but clinton caucus growing around her, that is going to be a
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problem. benghazi, no. if you believe that hillary clinton was not held accountable enough for what happened that day i think yesterday kind of reinforced some of those narratives. also as to her lack of judgment and lack of trust worthiness. i think all of that came out yesterday if you were inclined to sort of already think that about her. >> yeah people have said that. it cemented their views perhaps. might not have changed some. donald trump gearing up for his hosting duties on saturday night live but the appearance is coming under fire. we will ask an hispanic member of congress what he thinks about donald trump's appearance.
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the benghazi hearing has been criticized by many democrats as the partisan investigation meant to sink hillary clinton's presidential campaign. let's dig into those claims. congressman, thank you for being was. i imagine you think that the secretary did well yesterday. i imagine you think that the panel in and of itself is partisan. so let me ask this a different
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way. do you have no questions about what happened in benghazi? are you satisfied that you know everything you need to know about the attacks that left four americans dead? >> i think we have a tragedy. four americans dead given a terrorist attack. and i think unfortunately and sadly john it's been turned into a political football. and i think that's unfortunate. look, i'm a member of the select committee on intelligence. we did our investigation. we did our review. there have been many reviews. are you ever satisfied completely with all of the facts? but i think we know enough about what happened in benghazi that we can move forward. >> do you know why so many requests for security were not responded to or turned down? >> look. i think that there are many times failures. failures of systems which are tragic. i mean, i like to ask the question all of the time and we asked the same question after
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september 11th. but i didn't go around demanding hearings about why george bush didn't prevent the attacks on september 11th. we did our investigation. we took measures. and i know that we have taken more measures in order. here is what i would say. that it just seems to me a little ironic and a little bit of a contradiction that the same republicans that cut the very funding for more security at embassies across the globe are the same ones that are now clambering for more security and why wasn't it put in place. look, we know what happened. i saw hillary clinton there for 1 11 hours. and do you want to know something? i saw that somebody they would like across the table from putin. i saw somebody who could be commander in chief. i saw somebody poised. it's been a lot. they still want to talk about the e-mails. look, your question is great, john. is there anything more i can know?
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tray groud the gentlemen from south carolina i have a great deal of respect for him. and even more respect for him after yesterday. baud because when he was asked what is it we learned after 11 hours and he's a really smart guy. he said nothing new on the record after 11 hours. >> we did learn yesterday hillary clinton sent an e-mail to her daughter the night of the attacks where she said that some people have blamed the attack in bengz on a video. did send an e-mail to her daughter which says this is connected to the al qaeda terrorists. >> i was there. this is the best estimate of the intelligence committee. do you really expect the secretary of state to know everything about what happens at every second? and when i send -- when you send an e-mail to your daughter, i send send one to my daughter, i'm pretty sure we're not as
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circumspect because they are our kids. this wasn't an official communication of the standing of the american government. i take a lot of actions in congress of the united states. i send a lot of e-mails to my kids. you wouldn't want -- i certainly wouldn't want to be judged like that. >> i don't think we're going to make new ground here. the question did contradict what she was saying in public. i do want to move onto the republican national front runner. no longer the front run ner iowa. but donald trump. invited to appear on "saturday night live" on december 7th i think it is. you wrote a letter to nbc. it is a level of endorsement that says to america that every hateful and racist thing donald trump has said since the moment he launched his campaign is acceptable and no big deal. what do you intend to do to nbc to force their hand on this?
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>> here is what we're saying to nbc. look, this is not a boycott. just so you know a comcast subscribe ir. i'm going to pay my bill. i'm going continue to watch nbc. but the executives at nbc shouldn't say something to the american public. comcast nbc universal said we no longer want a relationship because of the derogatory statements because it doesn't reflect the values we have as the corporation. john i guess my question is what happened between june and july? did i miss the donald trump saying i'm sorry? did i miss when he said i misspoke? that i didn't really mean it? where was this act of contrition? look, i guess i wish for one moment you could come to chicago. i visited five high schools talked over 2,000 seniors. that i had congressman, am i going to lose my citizenship.
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the 14th amendment going to be revoked. do you know what high school kids should ask a member of congress? how am i going to get into college? where is it i get financial aid? can i get to west point? those should be conversations i'm having instead of about fear engendered by the kind of statements he makes. there are kids who is parents came from mexico. and when you take a whole community of people. and do you know what, donald trump shouldn't only worry about the ones that recently crossed the border. he should worry about people like me who -- >> congressman -- >> because we really take offense to the kind of statements he makes. >> congressman, thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you john. >> we have breaking news about the strongest hurricane ever recorded. it will make land fall today in mexico. we're tracking the storm next. o. like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. why put up with that?
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hurricane patricia is a monster storm. it is the most powerful hurricane in recorded history and it is bearing down on the pacific coast of mexico.
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let's bring in cnn's meteorologist chad meyers. what are you seeing? >> i don't think you can put your mind around stronger than katrina, stronger than andrew, stronger than camille. stronger than the labor day hurricane. it is hard to fathom what 200 miles an hour around the center of an eye that is only about seven miles around. winds 200 miles per hour one way, into the eye and then 200 miles per hour the other way. there will be a major flood event but i think the big event will be the wind tearing up the most. north of manzanillo, south of puerta vallarta. it isn't going to be over a big tourist destination be tourists trapped but manzanillo will take the brunt of this. surge could be as deep as 30 feet. and the waves as well.
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some will also produce rainfall in the mountains and flash flooding. and eventually some of that moisture could get into north america, into the u.s. as we start to see rainfall into parts of texas, maybe even louisiana on saturday or sunday. a lot of this storm will be taking the stuffing up because of the mountains with maybe a foot or two of rain. >> we'll keep our eye on that all day. thanks so much. now to top cnn heros. kim carter turned his life around after a decade of fighting diction and homelessness. so she knows first how how it is to reclaim your life. addiction. >> what options does a woman with nothing have to start over? you have no money. you have no id. you have no family. you have no friends and you are just out there walking the streets lonely with nothing. >> so how does she help other
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this, this stuffing of food in your fellow diner's face is called gursha. it is whether you do to show your respect. try this at the waffle house sometime. >> my family known as shutting your mouth up. from season six of parts unknown, anthony bourdain visits thoep ethiopia. it is never just about the food. it is always that it is then
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kind of a pathway into the culture. and this is even more special because of who you go with it. tell us about it. >> marcus samuesamuelson. great chef. long time friend. walked out of desert with his mom and sister as an infant and was adopted by a swedish family. raised in sweden and then later america. and in this soeepisode returns ethiopia to meet his father and return to his home village. so we're looking at the very complex and beautiful country with a very -- from that very personal perspective. >> absolutely. food plays such a big part of things as we were saying. tell us more about this tradition. >> it really does take you by surprise. something you have to be prepared for.
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because at any moment during a meal the person next to you will suddenly shove a big wad of food in your mouth. and it is a sheer expression of affection and camaraderie. but the larger the mouthful the more sincere the affection. so you've got to be prepared. >> i've been to an ethiopian restaurant in washington d.c. and that custom of eating with your hands and the tortia like bread. but what was it that you were eating? >> probably in this case a big wad meat with some spices. >> i think he doesn't know all the time. >> it is very likely. i have no clue much of the time and i don't -- you know i'm as interested in who's wokking and why they are doing what they are doing as what's cooking. i was a chef for a while and a bit of a food nerd. but it is not everything.
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i don't obsess over ingredients. it is more. there is a bigger and longer story behind everything we eat. we eat what we do for a reason and it is often the end of a long story. >> so we learn more about ethiopia. and it is a place that may be unknown to many of us. >> i think people will be surprised by an explode b economy. very complex and diverse culture. amazing history. incredibly music. and a lot like so many places in the world, a place that is changing very very quickly. >> you went as you said your friend marcus samuelson, well known chef. had he never met his birth father? >> he had. it is a very -- it is a complex relationship. and it's tough. you know marcus has to ask himself constantly when he's there, how african is he? he may have been born there but he grew up in sweden and he doesn't really fit in any of those places fully. so it is a very personal -- very
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personal show. >> what a terrific journey. and we've got all sorts of other great surprises in store for us in season six. always a pleasure to talk to you tony. >> thank you. >> tlangs for bringi ithanks fo us some delicious -- least on tv. >> i want to try that. >> i don't like it. i grew up -- i'm tired of people shoving food in my mouth. i can't take it but i can take as much of you as we can get. congratulations on the success of the show. it is never about the food. the food is just a path way into a real journey and you can catch it this sunday 9:00 p.m. right here on cnn. good stuff coming up. hi i'm heather cox on location with the famous, big idaho potato truck. our truck? it's touring across america telling people about idaho potatoes. farmer: let's go boy. again this year the big idaho potato truck is traveling the country spreading the word about heart healthy idaho potatoes
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