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his brother's thrown dering campaign. you can see those pictures coming out. meeting reports and some fans. this comes as jeb bush is about to speak at a new hampshire town hall. he will be speaking and taking questions at this town hall in just moments. the biggest one tonight is will he stay in the race? if not, the change in the polls and donor race will be seismic. once again, the attack of marco rubio failed. >> marco, when you signed up with this, it's a six-year term and you should be showing up and his campaign promised that's what would happen. brianna keilar is "outfront" tonight covering jeb bush in new hampshire. what is the campaign saying tonight after that debate
performance? >> reporter: erin, they are insisting that their campaign has the funds, that they have the ground game. those folks on the ground in these key early states. what we saw today here in portsmouth, new hampshire, was a frustrated jeb bush bush and as you have republicans who have long wanted him to be the nominee, they have been supporting him, he's insisting that he still has the organization, the money and perhaps the most importantly the heart to see this campaign through. >> it's not on life support. we have the most organization. we're doing fine. >> jeb bush is back on the trail today trying to convince voters that his campaign is not on life support. >> it's not about the big personalities on stage. it's not about performance. it's about leadership. >> reporter: now, some political observers are concluding that bush's presidential prospects are doomed, even as he tries to project confidence he can make a comeback.
>> there are two types of politicians. the talkers and the doers. i wish i could talk as well as some of the people on the stage, the big personalities on the stage. but i'm a doer. >> reporter: this, after critics and many republicans are panning his third debate performance. >> i'm running with heart. i'm not a performer. if they are looking for an entertainer in chief, i'm not the guy. >> reporter: bush, the once presumed front-runner, has raised $25 million for his campaign and is back by a super pac has dropped sharply in the polls. wednesday, bush stlug gruggled make a mark. >> when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term and you should be showing up to work. literally, what is it, like a french work week? you have three days where you have to show up? you can resign or let someone else take over the job. >> i don't remember you ever
complaining about john mccain's position. >> reporter: what must have stumped even more coming from a man that he helped. >> the most centered leader i know, marco rubio. >> republicans back a jeb bush run and he really has money in his favor in the way that other candidates don't have. he insists that he's good to go for the long hall and a lot of them are saying he may not be popping right now in october or november but it really matters in january right before the iowa caucus, the new hampshire primary. at the same time, they also admit, erin, that he needs to have a moment, a big moment that resonates and have a good debate performance here and really in the near future. >> brianna, thank you very much for that. and now, mark preston. what are your sources telling you about the future of jeb
bush's campaign tonight? >> i spoke to one of the top advisers and the conversation is that it's tok particular right now amongst national reporters but his adviser says and rightfully so, we saw jeb bush in new hampshire today but the adviser tells many he that they need to refocus the campaign. they need to grind it out and do need to do better in the upcoming debate. and with the bush campaign, who thought jeb bush was going to walk away with the nomination. this republican told me a short time ago that this is the first time i think that jeb bush may not actually win the gop nomination. >> a lot of people asking so many questions. thank you very much. joining me is a jeb bush supporter. good to have both of you.
rick, let me start with you. george w. bush coming to the rescue tonight trying to moments ago reach with donors. here he is. >> thank you. god bless you. >> thank you. >> don't put that on ebay. >> all right. a light moment. he's signing autographs. saying don't put this on ebay. the question is, though, he's immensely popular, nearly 90% of the electorate have a popular opinion of him. can he save jeb bush right now? >> there is a sense right now in the commentary that's probably a little too panicked. i think jeb has not been enough panicked in the last few weeks. i think w is a very popular figure and great president and republicans do love him. he can certainly help keep the fuel in the tank going forward
by helping raise some of those hard dollars on the campaign side. >> the reviews for bush are grim and "the tampa bay times" said it was the beginning of the times and republican consultants say the campaign is on life support. you heard mark preston say that it's toxic. is it time for him to drop out as so many are now openly discussing? >> actually, that's the suggestion that is ridiculous. to believe that last night one of many debates was in any way dispositive or game changing, you have to, one, want to believe it about jeb bush and, two, you have to ignore the evidence with a bunch of yeah buts. you could say the debates matter all that much, carly fiorina would have been at center stage last night.
yeah, but. but if you said, well, poor performance, then you say, well, then carson wouldn't even be on the stage. yeah, but. sharp exchanges like jeb had with marco that didn't work out. if they were fatal to your campaign, trump would be out of the race. so this is just a lot of talk because we have to talk after these debates but it's not going to change the course of the race. blocking and tackling is going to change the course of the race. >> rick, do you think this will change the course of the race? yes, the media obviously has an opinion how this went and didn't go well for jeb bush and it's not just the media. his own campaign manager was banging on the production door. that seems like a rather panicked move. >> well, look, i think that -- as max said correctly, no single incident is going to be dispositive in this campaign.
progress and sort of reorientation on how he can win in this current political environment and needs to be showing a consistent progress over time if the donors are going to maintain confidence in him. >> that moment with marco rubio, when it happened, i was walking into the kitchen briefly and stopped dead in my tracks. it was painful to watch it. because bush has been his mentor, his friend, it was hard to watch it. let me just play for you why. >> it's nice to see a young man passionate about these foundational beliefs and marco rubio speaks better than anybody i've ever met about these things. >> marco would bring incredible energy. he's the most articulate speaker for conservative principles in america today and he's my friend. >> i have special place in my heart for him. it's hard to describe the pride i feel for his incredible
success and. >> it came off as either over prepared or desperate. obviously you're backing bush. you do think that didn't work? >> yeah. i would agree with that. it was poorly conceived and poorly executed. that moment will come but last night was too early. my feeling is at the end of the day this will shake out with there being a champion of the republican party. looks like said cruz and mainstream wing of the republican party. one day the two of them will have to post up but not when there's 11 candidates. so i think that they need to be more patient and wait for the right moment. >> so rick, next debate, less than two weeks away. little time to prepare.
how significant does that mean it is? especially if you're jeb bush? you know you have failed and now all of a sudden the stakes are even higher. that often is not a situation where people are successful. >> well, i think that the pressure of debates in quick succession is something that they have to become accustomed to and jeb is extraordinarily bright and i think you are going to see some more sparks. as max says, you know, you don't flag your ambush ahead of time for your opponent. and i think that's what happened here. the jeb folks put out that they were going to raise the stakes. marco was completely ready for it. it's something they can't afford to do that, that particular mistake again. >> thanks very much rick mack for your time. "outfront," marco rubio say he pounced jeb bush. with solid debate performances and rising poll numbers is marco
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you're looking live right now at pictures out of new hampshire. jeb bush is holding a town hall with voters. we're watching to see if he continues his attack on marco rubio and what questions voters asked him. strongest numbers of the night. he fired back at bush's criticism. does rubio have what it takes to last in the spotlight? donald trump and ben carson.
suzanne malveaux is "outfront.." >> reporter: marco rubio setting the third gop debate on fire leading the media, hillary clinton and even his former mentor now rival jeb bush scorched. >> my campaign is going to be about the future of america. it's not going to be about attacking anyone else on this stage. >> reporter: his performance widely seen as a win that could be his breakout moment. >> i think he appeals to everybody on all sides of the spectrum. you know, there is something maybe kennedy-esque. he's a young, dynamic guy. he has an inspirational story. he makes you feel good about voting for marco rubio and good about the country in the same way that obama did for a lot of people. >> reporter: his father, a bartender and mother a hotel
maid, he has four children. he ran for city commissioner at age 26 and received a $50 donation from none other than jeb bush. as the years passed, the former florida governor became rubio's close friend and mentor when he became statehouse speaker. >> now i'm actually on c-span. so it's good. >> reporter: but his political stock is on the rise but faces hurdles. missing senate votes and committee hearings. >> let me say, i read that he had tore yell today with great amusement. it's actually evident of the bias that exists today. >> reporter: and then his personal finances which rubio was also pressed on during last night's debate. >> senator rubio, you yourself have said that you've had issues. you have a lack of bookkeeping skills and accidently intermingled campaign money with personal money and liquidated a
$68,000 retirement fund, something that caused you thousands of dollars in taxes and penalties. it raises the question whether you have the majority and wisdom to lead this $17 trillion economy. what do you say? >> you listed attacks from my political opponents. >> finally, there are the obama comparisons, his lack of experience. his ability to tap into the anger of the gop base while at the same time is presenting himself as hopeful and optimistic. erin? >> suzanne, thank you very much. "outfront" now, republican strategist and former chief of staff senator mitch mcconnell, josh holmes, and van jones. marco rubio is 44 years old, a first-term senator. is he ready, really ready to be president? >> yeah. you know, i think that's kind of
an interesting attack. if you look at, for example, barack obama in 2008, his experience at that point makes marco rubio look like an original signer of the declaration of independence, by contrast. >> they were both first-term senators. >> but he was a speaker of house in florida which is not an insignificant amount of experience and you look at the stage on wednesday night, look at the front-runners. donald trump, ben carson, ted cruz. marco has more experience than all of those guys. it's an attack that's been tried time and time again over the course of history and it doesn't really stick all that well. >> van? >> well, listen, he's got enough experience to run for the office. i think the problem is he presents himself now as like this poor kid, the bartender's kid, sure, i've made his steaks
but i'm a poor kid. it's so easy to start punching back. the reality is, he had almost a million dollar book deal on the table. he's making $300,000 a year. he commingled money with his campaign and got fined. his wife was involved. you can't do this boy scout thing over and over again. >> what do you say on the issues of finance, the questions that becky raised, commingling the campaign money, using money from his book deal for purchases, whether it be a boat or a car. a lot of people can relate to that but it raises questions for some about his readiness, his wisdom, his discipline. >> i think if selling books was a crime, we wouldn't have any presidential candidates at all. but the issue where senator rubio, best i can tell, the attack was that he bought a fishing boat. most americans kind of find refreshing that they've got somebody whose finances they can
relate to. if they wanted to only vote for a millionaire, they have a heck of an opportunity to do that. >> people may be able to relate to him but will they want someone who has challenges paying their bills like they do in the oval office? >> it's going to be tough. i agree that he is relatable on this point. a lot of people in america are going to say, look, i've had financial troubles after the bush recession. i've had problems. but the question -- he's got to deal with the money -- how it impacts the rest of his life. for instance, he has a 1 billionaire backer. the problem with trump he says no one can buy me. with rubio, he's more relatable
but the money question will keep comi coming up for him. the bad side is, you don't handle money well, you're too close to a couple of key billionaires and, i'm telling you, i knew the moment was coming that he was going to break out. he's unbelievably talented. but you can oversell yourself on what a boy scout is and every time the answer can't be, i'm going to attack the media. that's going to wear thin very quickly. this guy is unbelievably talented but he's got to be careful. >> josh, i'll give you a quick, final word. he's young looking so it's refreshing but he does have a baby face. >> yeah. no. i think that's why we're seeing a lot of attacks about inexperience and relative usefulness. he's the same age as ted cruz and we're not talking about that and within the same ballpark as
obama when he was elected. he looks young and frankly he's pretty relatable to americans looking for youthful exuberance. >> thanks very much to you, both youthful and exuberant. and terrifying video. this plane caught fire just as it was about to take off with 101 people on board. the crew evacuated. some passengers down the wrong side of the fiery wreck. we're going to go live. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy.
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when you get credit from the press, you know you really did well because boy do they not want to do it. >> sara murray is "outfront" where the trump rally was held. sara, hearing a little bit about what trump had to say, what else >> reporter: well, no surprise donald trump believes that donald trump won the debate last night. that's not what the immediate reaction or the reviews were. a lot of people felt like last night was actually a breakout moment for senator marco rubio. even for senator ted cruz out further in the wings of the debate stage. what was interesting was watching trump navigate that today. he was actually very complementary and talking about senator rubio's performance on stage saying that the senator did a great job navigating tough questions. a little bit of a friendlier donald trump than we are used to seeing. >> to that point, lately it's been going aggressively over ben carson. i believe where you are today, it was kind words for ben carson. >> reporter: there were kind words for ben carson.
trump started joking when an audience member asked who will be his vp. a number of people screamed out carson and trump was saying, look, you saw how well we were winking at each other and chatting at each other. he's been tough on carson in the past week, ever since the polls are showing that carson has been leading in iowa. a poll showed carson leading nationwide. when trump walked into this room, a lot of people also liked carson as well as himself. he played it safer tonight and that's what you've got to do if you're competing to win over the same pool of voters. >> thank you very much, sara murray, live from sparks, nevada, where trump appeared before a trump-like audience. thousands were there. a ben carson adviser joins me now and jeff lord, served as political director for president reagan. now, both of your candidates, gentlemen, as you know, were taking hits and all the talk is
about marco rubio. jeff, let me start with you. donald trump thinks he did well. the reviews from the conservative press, though, the conservative press -- i want to make that point -- are not that way, the national review. it's no longer the trump show, "the wall street journal." trump gets over shadowed. did he need to do more last night, jeff? >> i hate to say this about my bretheren but i think there's a sort of predisposition at the national review to knock him to begin with. i thought he did perfectly fine. the attention of marco rubio, that comes because of the fight that jeb bush tried to pick with him and got smacked. so i understand that. but i do think that donald did very well here in all of this. you know, while we're on the subject of fights and i know you have armstrong there, dr. carson, who is a lovely guy, says that he doesn't want to get down in the mud pit, he doesn't fight, this is a bit of a
paradox, i think, because one of the criticisms of mitt romney and john mccain by republicans and other republican moderate presidential candidates over the year is that they don't fight back. mitt romney, who was a good soul and upstanding family man and all of this, was portrayed as a responsible for murderng a steel worker's wife in an ad because they didn't give her health care, they say aproesh sho atrocious things. if dr. carson were to be the nominee, let's just be honest here, hillary clinton and these folks are going to come at him hammer and tong and saying he doesn't want to get into the mud pit isn't going to cut it. >> what do you say to that? >> hello, jeffrey. listen, there's a difference in fighting against your republican
brothers, the harshness of the media, the public, as much as they fight out in the public and with the media, the last thing dr. carson wants to do is fight with them and argue with them on stage. dr. carson has shown where he's defended his position about muslim and guns and the president. whether it was the national prayer breakfast which launched a thousand ships for him, he stood up to the president and talked about what he believed about affordable care. it all depends on where you pick the fight. we don't want to fight with mr. trump or the republicans but are willing to fight with everybody else who doesn't stand for the great interest of the united states that we all love so dearly. >> mr. armstrong, i want to ask you about -- >> that sounds like a good vice president to me. >> armstrong, i've got to ask you about dr. carson's most memorable moments last night, the question about the nutritional supplement account,
claiming that it can kill things from down syndrome's. ben carson denied that relationship in the debate. here's what he said. >> that is total propaganda. do i take the product? yes. i think it's a good product. >> to be fair, you were on the home page with a logo over your shoulder. >> it somebody put me on the home page, they did it without my permission. >> let me play for you the video which includes dr. carson. >> the wonderful thing about a company like manitech, when god made us, he gave us the right fuel. >> why would dr. carson deny a relationship there? >> because it's the truth. >> how is it the truth. he likes the products, he's in a
promotional video about the product. >> that was in missouri. dr. carson just launched his book, "america the beautiful" and dr. carson was giving a speech in missouri through the washington speaker's bureau and it just so happened that they were one of the sponsors of the event and they wanted him to promote the product and dr. carson only talked about his personal story and talked about other things. he did not talk about manitech and when he was coming off the stage, the ceo, sam caster, put a grab on him and said you didn't mention it we want you to be part of it and can you do a video, say something on the video? the problem is sam was trying to coach him about what to say and dr. carson was not comfortable with it and said what he said. we saw it posted on youtube and edited dr. carson's video.
they edited dr. carson's video and manipulated it to make it seem as though he was endorsing the product. >> is dr. carson going to sue them? what is he going to do about it? >> listen, this is a speaking engagement. dr. carson came on the stage. he decided to go and do the video based it on the orphanage in africa. >> i appreciate you talking about that and it's good to have you with us. "outfront" next, an exclusive report between heavily armed gunmen in an american strip mall and this boeing 767 leaking fuel when the pilot frantically calmed the tower. and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar?
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in the video you can see people ducking and running for their lives. we want to warn you that what you are about to see is graphic. ed lavandera has the "outfront" exclusive. >> the showdown was like the gunfight at the okay corral. you don't have to hear the eruption of gunfire to feel the chaos that rival motorcycle clubs unleash a deadly mele: this video takes you inside a restaurant in waco, texas, where nine bikers were killed and the parking lot was a raging war zone. >> this is crazy. >> reporter: cnn has obtained more that two dozen pages of documents and surveillance video giving us the most detailed accounts of what unfolded last may. some of the very evidence that a texas grand jury is using to possibly indict the 177 bikers arrested and charged with organized criminal activity. restaurant surveillance cameras
show the patio area filled with the club waiting for an early afternoon biker meeting to start. they had already been there for more than an hour. the bandito crew rolls in as police and s.w.a.t. teams anticipating violence are watching from a distance. john wilson is president of the cosacks biker club. he's sitting on the patio when the banditos arrive. >> i looked out and i was watching. he deliberately stared into one of our prospects and hit him. i mean, he wasn't going to go real fast. he ran into him with a motorcycle, enough to knock him down. >> reporter: the man he's talking about is clifford pierce. he's not been charged but in a police report, an investigator wrote pierce said he did not get his foot run over but may not have gotten out of the way fast enough. it didn't matter. the cossacs believe a bandito
ran into one of their guys and the fight was on. witnesses told police a bandito fired a shot into the ground and another says a cossack fired first and they point the finger at each other or claim they didn't see anything. clifford pierce claims he hit the dirt and was shot. a bullet hits his spine leaving pierce paralyzed from the waist down. >> it was pretty horrific. there were guys getting hit and falling and i realized that i needed to get away from where i was and i looked at the guy to my right, my left, a good friend of mine and i told him, we've got to get off the sidewalk or we're going to die here, you know. >> reporter: mayhem ensues. a biker fire as gunshot caught on camera towards the fight scene in the parking lot. he then stashes the gun. a number of cossacks take cover.
waitresses are stunned and trapped. the scene plays out in gory detail. you can see a group of bikers pummeling one man outside the patio area. crime scene photos later show a biker's body left dead in that exact spot. this biker runs towards the camera with a bloody face. another group pulls a wounded man into the patio and they appear to be trying to he's then carried away. several defense attorneys say the videos show most of the bikers there that day was innocent bystanders. >> y'all going to put us in jail? >> yeah, everybody is going to jail. >> the way they handled it with the mass incarceration of people with million dollar bonds, flies in the face of justice and flies in the face of fairness. it's ridiculous. >> reporter: after it was all over, the scene was chaos. dozens of bikers ran inside the restaurant to hide in the
bathrooms and kitchen. police swat teams move in to round up the crowd and escorted out with hands up, weapons litter the crime scene, knives, brass knuckles and more than 150 firearms everywhere. some even hidden in toilets. it's been more than five months since the twin breaks brawl and all of the bikers are out of jail, out on bond. they were charged with engaging in organized criminal activity, but not one of them has been indicted by a grand jury yet and no one has been charged with murder. in fact, it's still not clear whom killed whom. one police report says at least three officers fired into the crowd and he heard suppressed fire from what i believe to be swat officers with suppressed rifles. it's likely some bikers were hit by police bullets but ballistics reports have not become pleated to determine that. police and prosecutors have refused to answer questions about the investigation siting a gag order but waco police have
defended their actions since the beginning. >> this is a criminal element that came in here yesterday and killed people. they are not here to drink beer and eat barbecue. they came with violence in mind and were ready for it. >> reporter: these images of the twin peaks brawl tell the story of pandemonium. >> the bikers started shooting. put us in a freezer. >> that's incredible footage, six months later, and you were showing that and you could see one of the shooters and put it in slow motion you can see his face. no one has been charged in the deaths of these nine bikers. why not? >> reporter: well, obviously it's a very complicated case. 177 people arrested and making sense of it is complex. we got a sense of that by pouring over documents. there is a great deal of work and of usually a lot of questions how the entire process played out and 177 people essentially waiting to hear what
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national cat day, but instead of staying home and clipping your cat, imagine watching cat clips. 100 of them at the berkeley performance center in boston. we're talking masterpieces like the cat and the lamb. or the cat trying to catch its tail. and falls off the couch looking for it or cat versus printer. most of the clips are style, known as youtube videos. but give the impression cats might not care about national cat day or us. >> come on out. >> reporter: i mean, come on, who wouldn't want to shell out $12 for a ticket to see action like this? or to hear a cat say in portuguese while getting a shower it hurts.
[speaking foreign language]. [ laughter ] >> reporter: these videos were first screened at the international cat video festival. from hoover cat to the the black cat. and though cats may be top dog this week, that didn't stop george and amal cloony from adopting her, meet millie cloony. they stopped by the humane society unannounced. they had spotted millie on pet finder and brought around their other sheltered dog to see if they could get along. she went from being rescued stranging from food to being a basketball sit whose only worry is beiing hounded by the paparazzi. jeanne moos, cnn, new york.
>> i'm sure they will be wonderful to that little lucky dog. thanks for joining us. set your dvr to record "outfront." "ac 360" starts now. >> good evening. thanks for watching. tonight the question is could we see the first signs of the next big shift in the presidential campaign? when republicans took the stage in boulder, colorado last night momentum seemed to be shifting for front runners and fading for others. today we got the sense of how the debate affected the larger dynamic and got a chance to look whether the event was conducted fairly and on the flip side, whether candidates answered question questions fact welly. that ahead tonight but three key candidates holding events today. brianna keilar in new hampshire and sarah murray with the trump campaign and in boulder, brianna, jeb bush addressing a heated exchange between him and marco ru