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>> who won the debate? meanwhile, one viewer on the democratic side was, shall we say, underwhelmed. >> you would have been better off watching the world series because in my opinion it was a swing and a mass. >> brianna keilar, you have breaking news about information about an upcoming meeting the campaigns are holding as a result of last night's debate. what do you have? >> so as you know, the republicans, nearly all of them, have been really frustrated with how last night's debate went down and now are taking the matters into their own hand. they are going to hold representatives from several of the campaigns are going to hold a meeting at 6:00 p.m. sunday night in washington, d.c., to sort of come up with a way that they can gain more control of the debate process, of the
debate formats away from the national committee. they think the whole debate process has gotten out of happened under the control of the rnc and want to bring that back under their control. so earlier today, members from the ben carson, donald trump, lindsey graham and job bee jindal campaigns started talking and will meet together on sunday. >> you said trump, graham, who else? >> trump, graham, carson and jindal were the architects of this meeting but they've also brought in other candidates. so marco rubio, rick santorum, carly fiorina, rand paul is tentative, jeb bush is tentative. we spoke to a chris christie spokesman who said they were not part of the discussion which says that christie's campaign will not be there. the key player who will not be there. >> so the question is, was this part of the reason for reince priebus remarks after the debate
last night? maybe he knew something was brewing because he came out and made the comment about the questions being too pointed or not fair. what do they want exactly? >> when reince priebus came out and made those remarks, it sort of seemed like he was in the same camp as the republican candidates who went after the cnbc moderators and now it seems like he was preparing for this backlash from the campaigns which frustrated them. reince priebus and the rnc were frustrated with cnbc but also frustrated with the way the whole process has gone out of the control. they were trying to rein it in from 2012 but they haven't been able to do that. >> do you know what specifics they want? or is that not out there yet? >> they have certain points they want to touch on. they want the whole debate to be more focused on the issues. they want the debates are broken
up to be more focused and coherent. they don't want the moderators asking gotcha questions or pit the candidates against one another and make sure that they are all getting equal time. of course, jeb bush's campaign strategists were very upset about the little amount of time that he got in wednesday night's debate. >> one of his campaign aide workers were being noiknocking doors of the control room. >> that's right. >> after last night's performance, a lot of people are talking about campaign death watch. what's he saying about it? >> reporter: he's saying that's absolutely not the case. in fact, he was asked the question, what do you say to the criticisms that your campaign is on life support? that's when he answered it's not on life support. at the same time, don, he's very aware of the disappointment and concern that some of the donors are feeling.
in fact, we understand from sources who talked to cnn's john king and dana bash that he actually had a donor call today and it wasn't something that he did on the fly. he didn't do this on the run. he sat down, one source tells dana bash, and made this call very deliberately a. conference call with donors to assure them that his strategy is sound. he also, we're told, acknowledged that he could have done better. he tried to assure donors that things are okay. he wasn't necessrily very upbeat. i think he was somber about it but certainly trying to project some cautious confidence that the strategy of his campaign is sound. >> brianna, there is an internal bush campaign document leaked to u.s. world and news report showing that bush is ready to invest heavily in new hampshire. $5.6 million in ads after the first of the year. what does he tell you about his
strategy? >> reporter: you know, that's something that is in line with something that i'm hearing from bush backers. look, is this ideal? no. they say there are many other debates and the important thing is not necessarily for him to be popping right now in october and november. the important thing is for him to be popping in january ahead of these key february dates of the iowa caucuses of the new hampshire primary and point back to 2012 when newt gingrich was really flying high, outperforming the field and those backing mitt romney spent a lot of money on ads and newt gingrich saw his poll numbers fall. ultimately, he didn't do very well, as you know. so they are saying to look at this document and this is a signal to that. >> to dylan's breaking news, people were bashing cnbc and their handling of the debate.
listen to this. >> maybe every moderator should show that they vote republican because why should we have these people that hate everything we stand for and i won't mention his name but the questions were so nasty. >> what it's turned into is a gotcha and that's not helpful to anybody. >> i'm not going to allow them to ask stupid questions and let them continue to have their bias show like the show last night. >> that may have been the only consensus they came to on the stage last night. >> reporter: look, there's been a lot of criticism and you've heard that from a number of the candidates. do keep this in mind to add to what dylan said, when they are criticizing the media, they are
in a very safe space with their constituents. consider that as they are certainly hoping that there are going to be changes and they are also taking aim at the rnc on this. >> brianna keilar and dylan byers, thank you. barry bennett is joining me right now. we can turn these reports that the republican candidates are meeting in washington to strategize how to cut the debates and cut the rnc out of the process. is this is an insurgency and why is it even necessary? >> there's a lot of frustration coming out of boulder. a lot of us were angry about not just the moderators' questions but there were a lot of problems. we're not interesting in letting news media organizations choose who our nominee is. we all have to get together and
worry about the brand of the party and speak to republican parties. >> how are news organizations choosing who the nominee will be? >> don, if you let anchors ask questions, gotcha questions and they go after bush and that kind of stuff, we don't need. we've got plenty of ideas to talk about. we've got plenty of solutions to talk about. >> barry, with all due respect, if one is going to be the president of the united states, you're going to face questions from conservatives, moderates, from liberals, everyone. even if it's a gotcha question, i'll give you that, sbt this sort of a test of what kind of candidate or president they will be in front of the media, in front of foreign leaders, how they are going to answer particular questions? not every question, especially after you sit in the chair of the oval office, it's not going to be an "i love you" question. >> i understand that but this is the republican primary first, right? so we don't need people who are
not republicans who express hostility towards republicans to host our debates. that's crazy. >> okay. i'm not sure most people in america will agree with you but i'll give that you. >> i think a lot of republicans do. >> okay. this is what your candidate had to say about the debate. take a listen. >> specific things we're looking for are, first of all, moderators who are interested in actually getting the facts and not -- and gotcha questions and we're looking for an opportunity to actually be able to explain what your program is. what your philosophy for leadership is and then be questioned about it. >> okay. so only conservatives or republicans are able to understand republican candidates. is that -- are able to question
republican -- >> in the republican primary -- >> and only liberals can question and understand liberal candidates? >> i'm going to vote in the republican primary. i don't know what you're voting in. >> how do you know the questioners on that stage are liberals? have you seen their voter registration card? >> i think that, you know -- i don't think it take as great deal of research to figure that out. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear you. >> i don't think it takes a great deal of research to figure that out. >> okay. so in order to win, you're going to have to win over some moderates and some liberals as well. >> correct. >> in the general election? >> right. >> not in the primary. >> okay. let's move on. last night dr. carson was also asked about his relationship to a dietary supplement maker called manitech. does your campaign want to clarify anything about his connection to them?
>> no. he gave a paid speech to this group, a couple paid speeches. one they paid to for charity he doesn't run the company or publicly endorse the company and he's not a spokesman for the company. >> okay. barry bennett, thank you, sir, always appreciate you coming on and answering the questions. an odd couple. why bill maher actually agrees with something that ted cruz says. plus, a college student, an iraq war vet writes about black lives matter and all hell breaks loose. he's here to tell his story. we thought we'd be ready. but demand for our cocktail bitters was huge. i could feel our deadlines racing towards us.
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welcome back. gop candidates hitting the campaign trail following the debate last night. this is reno, nevada, where donald trump was. here to discuss this is an adviser to jeb bush during his 1994 campaign for governor. here also, keep the promise, one pat, which is a supporting ted cruz and carly is here, author and former navy s.e.a.l. you saw our breaking news this morning. several of the republican
presidential candidates plan on holdsing a meeting in washington on sunday according to dylan byers saying that they are trying to talk about the debate separating from the rnc. do you think donald trump should take part in this meeting? >> he got them to cut the debate from 3 1/2 hours down to two. this is the guy you want in that room negotiating what might go down with the next debate. >> kelly, is this a good idea? >> not necessarily. i would ask carl, what are you negotiating? what would be the negotiation? control the content of the questions or scrub the ideologic ideological predelictions of the moderators? are you going to come in with a list of question that moderator is not allowed to ask? you deal with the hand you're dealt. and your candidate is masterful and being able to turn around --
how many times has he been called left for dead and this is the comment that is going to sink him and he's still high up in the polls. i'm not sure that's a good idea. what the focus should be, don, let's make all of these debates, these forms of pure democracy, work for the voters because it allows people to turn on the computers or tvs and get access to candidates, people who go and meet the candidates. this is their opportnity to hear substance and that was the point of senator cruz last night. let's talk about substance. >> mack, i see you shaking your head. i think jeb bush is not part of this. he's on the fence. is this a good idea? >> well, i don't think it's particularly a good idea. you're not going to be able to pick the panelists or pick the questions. i'm not sure america bringing questions to the table is a good idea, then. you would just turn a zoo into a
circus. it is what it is and you have to power your way through it. that's part of the testing process. >> okay. well, i think that's what i said. so let's move on and talk specifically about the candidates. i know you think donald trump won the debate, carl, he's your guy. some say guys like marco rubio shined. >> people have been screaming for months that trump needs to act more presidential. he held back, only attacked kasich when kasich attacked him and went after the moderators and was generally polite. he really took the fight to the people who needed it to be taken to and this is a show of presidential attitude by him. >> kellyanne, let's talk about ted cruz. bill maher tweeted this, "oh, my god, did i just hear ted cruz
something that i agree with? yes. the media is even stupider than the polls. who's on first?" >> don, we may use part of that tweet in an upcoming ad, our super pac. i think maher taps into something important, which is get on with it and talk substance. ted cruz will be remembred for repeating in this audio memory way that he does exactly what was just asked, given the litany of questions that were just asked of the others and saying can't we talk about substance and then talking about substance. people may have missed that part. he came out with his plat tax plan on "the wall street journal." the point that bill maher is making also, if you're going to watch these, you want to learn something from them.
we don't want to comment on something that people are learning or saying. >> he got that point across last night, kellyanne, but he was supposed to be answering a question about something else and he didn't and it was supposed to be about the debt ceiling and he didn't get there. >> we know where he is. he said if you pass this you're giving president obama a dime-encrusted card. >> 14 million people aren't watching to hear you say that and didn't get to hear him say this either. >> don, they want back a few minutes later and said if you'd question about the debt ceiling question, but he was able to get that out. and i think what we need are people to -- maybe you can just ignore the question and sop of the candidates don't need to show up. wouldn't that be something? if a candidate who qualifies
gets all of the press attention, don, because they go and hold a press conference, writing open p-ed, coming to a show like yours, that would be -- i don't think they will. >> i think they should. it's interesting because last night i had all of the monitors up and i was watching and at one point donald trump was on all four cable channels. >> that's what he does. he commands the media. >> mac, without all of the candidates, jeb bush spoke the least. his campaign manager actually confronted the cnbc producer to get jeb bush to give more time. he was on the campaign trail and tried to clean it up. listen. >> look, there are two types of politicians. there are the talkers and there are the doers. i wish i could talk as well as some of the people on the stage, the big personalities on the stage. but i'm a doer. >> so he's a doer and says his
campaign -- he actually said the word "terminal" today. you don't want to be saying that about your campaign. >> he wasn't a doer on the stage, though. let's get that straight. >> y'all hold up here a second. if you were listening to my colleagues here on the show or many of the national pundits today, you'd have to wonder why jeb hasn't killed himself by now. you know, he had an exchange with marco where he came off second best clearly, kind of like when carly harpooned trump in the last debate. i think we're overstating the importance of these debates, frankly. if doing a terrible job would get you out of the race, then -- >> well, it's always, yeah, but. >> make your point, mac, because i've got to go.
>> ben carson doesn't hardly say anything. >> but ben carson now is a front-runner. thank you, guys. >> that's my point. that's my point. nothing in the debate is affecting carson status, trump status or carly fiorina. >> it affected marco rubio's status. >> will it reshape the race? that's next. complicate things. like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. why put up with that? but the quicksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. real simple. i'm talking easy like-a- walk-in-the-park, nothing-to-worry-about, man-that-feels-good simple. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it's a simple question. what's in your wallet? can a a subconscious. mind? a knack for predicting the future.
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marco rubio getting praised for his strong performance and jeb bush, not so much. listen to what he said today. >> you said that you were going to get better at this. what are you going to do to get better at this? >> look, we have eight more debates. i'm going to have to do whatever candidates do which is rudely interrupt, not answer the questions that are asked and hopefully the debate moderators will ask more substantive questions. it's going fine. >> are you having fun? >> oh, yeah. you saw it. lots of fun. >> republican strategist mercedes schell and contributor
van jones, a former obama administration officials. do you feel a little sorry for -- everybody is hitting jeb bush. poor guy. >> it's terrible. first of all, you know, all of these candidates go through these testing periods. i remember when john kerry was written off for dead and hillary clinton was written off for dead. they go through these periods but it's horrible to see him pretending, i'm having fun and it looks like he's at a funeral. to help him come out with his donors -- listen, i think this is a testing period for him. you're going to see a little bit of his character. can he push through. it's not over. lft night he looked like the nerd at a party trying to hang out with the cool kids and failing. >> yeah, but robert, could he
have a john mccain moment where all of a sudden he's lugging his own luggage and rolling through the airport and next he is a nominee? >> i have spoken with several people close to governor bush today and they said they'd like to see mike murphy, his long-time strategist, come back from the super pac supporting bush and helping out bush and maybe narrowing the team and helping them out in miami. it's a long race. it's only late october. he's certainly in a tough position and wondered did he pick the wrong battle? they thought it was better going after the outsiders than pretty shai marco rubio. >> does this change anything in the race? you heard that these debates don't really change anything. do they change anything? >> certainly it changed the entire dynamic in the 2016 contest because that exchange became a defining one really in
that establishment lane there's been intense dcompetition. kasich, bush, rubio. now it looks like rubio has momentum. trump had a solid performance and shows that he's in it for the long run. >> mercedes, i want to ask you about the john harwood tweet, talking about the debate and how tough it is. he said moderating tone rich my understanding of challenges and @speakerboehner has faced and @paulryan will face. >> first of all, he should not be giving any sort of an opinion. it was a disgrace how they managed this. this is not just pundits saying this. they just mishandled this debate. take note here.
remember, who is hosting the next democratic debate? it's msnbc rachel maddow. right along where the democrats are. i think what's missing -- it would have been much more powerful having a larry kudlow there for cnbc who understands the conservative issues and can ask the questions. that's the part missing, having the conservative hosts out there able to have the discussion because, you're right, it's becoming more about this personality conflict as opposed to talking about the substance. that was the unified factor last night on that stage. >> republicans always blame the media. >> the democrats are not having a debate with fox. why? >> i think you have a very hard time, mercedes, saying that cnbc, a financial news network
is republican or democrat. >> don, the way they managed calling donald trump's campaign a comic campaign and just the way the questions were asked -- >> let me say a couple things. >> they had wrong research. >> listen, i have great sympathy for you on this because i've seen some tough questions come our way as well. the problem i have with what they did at cnbc is that they did put themselves in a position where the conservatives can just attack the media and rev up their base and i agree it would have been much better if they had taken some of those questions. >> put larry kudlow there. that would not have happened. >> i agree with you. >> there were some gotcha questions there. >> yes. that's true. >> but i stick by the point that i made in the first block of our show, that that's part of the challenge when running for president. >> part of the game. >> is how you answer every
single question. >> that's right. at the same time, you also have to realize in the same way that the democrats have set it up, msnbc, certain networks in deciding to exclude fox, for example, you have the moderator very liberal -- >> so is debbie wasserman schultz doing a better jonathan reince priebus is? >> you'll have to ask reince priebus that question. >> robert, i'll ask you, then. >> it's a real problem for the republican national committee because they want to change the amount of debates but in doing so they seeded some of the power they have normally had over the process to the television networks. what we're seeing unfold right now is a brewing, simmering frustration going on for months. among these campaign who is believe the networks have too much power to prove the moderators, decide the formats. that's why they are going to try to huddle on sunday and try to bring the power to the campaign.
>> i want to say one thing. to compare msnbc to cnbc, i think it's not fair to them. honestly, cnbc is straight down the middle on most of this stuff. >> the moderators certainly didn't do a good job. >> i let you talk. i let you talk. they've been straight. i don't think it's fair to say that cnbc is in the same category as fox or msnbc is very partisan and i think beating up on the refs, you're not winning the game. >> they are winning the republican base over this because they are angry. they are angry with mou they have treated republicans. >> another time. thank you. it's not just the republicans upset about the questions. liberals can, too. we'll get into that when we come back. has three cold symptom fighters to relieve your tough symptoms. [deep breath] stay unstoppable. alka-seltzer plus.
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sellers, a former member of the house of representatives. brian, you wrote a conservative o op-ed for your college newspaper which is a very liberal campus. tell us what happened then. >> immediately or a day after the article was published, there was a negative backlash against the paper, students call for it to be recycled. and after a few days of getting yelled at and being called racist on campus, the college president put out a blog post and defended my right to state my opinion and since then the attitude has turned around thanks to the media and also to students on campus.
>> so the student government voted that they were going to cut the funding but it wouldn't have taken effect until 2016. >> you're a little older. you got a scholarship that they offer at wesley for veterans. you knew the school was liberal and saw that as a good thing. you told "the washington post" why you choose that and said, i i knew i wouldn't experience any growth. if i'm around, people with extremely liberal ideas i'll constantly challenge -- i'll be constantly challenge and counter and my views will either change or become sharpened. that's one of the smartest things, in my estimation, that i've ever heard, and that's how it should be for everyone. so what was the problem with
that? >> well, students weren't looking to engage, which really shocked me. i thought when i wrote it i'd get about a dozen to a dozen and a half critiques and instead students were even trying to do that. they were just saying, don't ever publish again, which was not good. >> bakari, is it impossible to have productive conversations anymore? >> i actually brian's op-ed piece based on false premises. even more importantly, what you do about the defensive speech is you don't shut it down. a dialogue is necessary. we have to have this dialogue back and forth so, as brian
said, his views can become sharper. some people abuse that notion. don't get me wrong. some people are racist and i'm not calling brian that by any stretch. sometimes people stretch over that line. i just thought it was offensive and wrong. we have a problem with political correctness here. my only problem with these colleges and universities is you have to have the free flow of information. bob jones university invited me to speak but we have to have the free flow of communication. >> brian, do you want to respond to that? >> absolutely. people have disagreed with the article left and right and up and down. if the opinion is that it's wrong, that's an opinion and valid. i've learned a lot more about
the movement and issues behind it. >> like what? what have you learned? >> well, i've learned that -- that it is unfair to put these -- this movement next to the violence so closely because the moderate portion of the movement does have a good message. i still believe the quickest ways to lose popular support is to not have control over your more extreme elements. that being said, the movement should succeed and get its moderate ideas passed. >> bakari, you heard the republican candidates up on the stage last night and said, listen, they felt railroaded by the moderators. do you think progressives are
becoming too politically correct or too intolerant or maybe more intolerant than conservatives in some ways? >> not at all. i find it ironic that we're having a discussion about political correctness about the don lemon. i think it's a notion that we have to look at as an entire country. one thing is for certain, not many republicans are on that stage that are politically correct. the one who i hope is not in the next debate who i don't think will make the next debate, governor chris christie, is probably the most offensive and least politically correct person i've ever met and able to watch politics throughout the country. i think bryan is right. he lumped black lives matter with police violence or not per se the death of police officers.
maybe we're able to change some hearts and minds. >> by the way, you can be politically incorrect, as they say, and not be offensive as well. the two don't have to be both. okay. thank you, guys. appreciate it. >> don, before we go, i just want to thank bryan for his service to our country and having the freedom of the press and everything else. thank you so much for your service. >> it's my pleasure. >> bryan, thanks for coming on and keep us updated. coming up, no charges filed against a police officer who shot and killed a 19-year-old in the hardy's parking lot. the whole thing caught on dash cam video. we'll talk to the young man's parents. that's coming up next. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid... plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. be a morning person again with aleve pm. (patrick 2) pretty great.ke to be the boss of you?
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hammond's family attorney. we asked you guys to show that video in the introduction because we didn't want to be rude or insulting or insensitive and you said you want people to know, to see what happened to your son to see all of it, angie, correct? >> well, yes, i don't want to see it, frankly, but i feel it's necessary to show it to people so they know what happened. >> again, we're sorry for your loss. how are you guys doing today? >> we're coping. we're doing okay. >> it's been a hard three months. >> were you surprised at this decision, paul? no charges? >> general rly from what you se in south carolina, no, i really wasn't surprised. i think we see it way too much. >> and angie? >> no, really i wasn't. it needs to change, but i wasn't surprised. >> you sort of expected this. i know it doesn't make it any
easier but you sort of expected it? >> yeah. >> eric, lieutenant mark tiller has stood by his claim that he acted in self-defense. you don't think that that is what we see, do you? >> oh, absolutely not. he put himself in harm's way and now he's claiming that it was in self-defense. it's clear that the car was not ever directed towards him and was arcing to leave the parking lot. there's no academy that would teach an officer to do what lieutenant tiller did. he came in and didn't identify himself as police. he drew his gun and immediately tell had he graphed what he was going to do when he said i will blow your f'ing a. he used profanity. a crime did not even occur and he used deadly force.
it would be akin, don, to me starting a fire and then i put it out and get to call myself a hero. lieutenant till letter murdered zachary hammond and, quite frankly, i was surprised there were not criminal charges after i saw the video. it's just clear, there's no just cause for what he did. >> you're saying his behavior was excessive, the entirety of his actions, his speech and what he did, you think that was excessive. the officer approached your son's car with his gun drawn. zachary was unarmed. he drove off. why do you think he drove off? do you think he was in fear? >> i think he was scared. i mean -- sorry. >> continue, angie. >> i do think he was scared. you know, tiller wasn't even in a regular police uniform.
he was in a cammo or army green jump suit. so -- and didn't even identify himself. all zach knew was someone was running up to the car with their guns drawn and i'm sure he was scared. >> he was just scared. eric, you wanted to jump in. what did you want to say? >> yeah. i mean, he just -- whether zachary felt it was a police officer or not, you can't use excessive deadly force in that situation and lieutenant tiller didn't tell him, hey, keep your hands up, don't put your hands down. he said, stop, stop, i will blow your f'ing head off. so that's telling him that he is going to shoot him for a crime that never had been committed. it was supposed to be a drug transaction where they were going to do a drug buy from the passenger. they never even let that materialize. so zachary's life was taken over a potential $60 drug transaction
that he was not even involved with. it's outrageous. >> eric, i want to ask you about the one factor that seems to have been zachary's text messages between may 26th and july 29th, there's talk about selling drugs and being an outlaw. how significant do you think those were in the decision? >> i think it probably played a role in the solicitor's mind in saying am i going to take down a police officer for someone like zachary. but those text messages would have never been admitted in court because lieutenant tiller didn't know who zachary hammond was. his actions have to be judged. any charges that are brought against him, it's the actor who you have to judge. not the victim. i mean, it's simply like a rape case. in this situation, they are blaming the -- they are trying to blame the victim. they didn't know who zachary was. whatever zachary may have done or didn't do beforehand is
irrelevant and white noise and never should have been disclosed. >> i have to ask you, do you think some justice will come of this? the justice department is continuing the civil rights investigation. >> i hope so. i hope so. >> we're very hopeful that the federal justice will do something. >> yeah. >> eric, paul, angie, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks. that's it for us tonight. i'll see you right back here tomorrow night at 9:00. "ac 360" starts in just a moment. you fifteen percent or more on huh, fiftcar insurance.uld save yeah, everybody knows that. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? ♪ you got to know when to hold'em. ♪ ♪ know when to fold 'em.
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