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weeping and squirming and whining. >> maybe some of that is on the ed room floor. >> do not miss it this sunday night at 9:0 p.m. eastern. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. >> gop to nbc, you're fired. this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. the republican national committee is suspending its partnership with nbc news for a february debate. what's really going on? and were the cnbc questions any worse than the fox debate questions? our political experts are here tonight and hillary clinton says black lives matter, but why doesn't everyone believe her? >> using the power of the feelings that come forward and yes, they do -- >> black lives matter! black lives matter!
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>> yes, they do and i'm going to talk a lot about that in a minute. >> we will certainly get to that shortly but i want to begin with the dramatic move today against nbc news. joining me now is dillon buyers, cnn's senior reporter. good evening to you, dillon. i had to ask you about this breaking news story. paul singer, very wealthy and influencei influential donor is throwing his money behind marco rubio. >> it would be hard to over state how significant it is, don. paul singer is one of the most powerful and influential donors on the republican side and what he did is he sent a letter to several other donors, basically expressing his support for rubio, why he thought rubio was the republican candidate that could win the nomination and go on to defeat. it's huge not just because of the millions of dollars this
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could mean for rub owe coming from singer but singer's about ty to bring in donors. he has been far out pacing rubio and other candidates. rubio struggled to raise money, now all of a sudden, we're seeing rubio come forward with this financial support, stronger in the debate than jeb bush. jeb bush's team fought hard for singer support as did the chris christie campaign and gone to rubio and i think that's a clear indication where things are going for rubio's campaign in terms of financial support. >> as we know, money makes a huge difference. it can keep you in the race or if you don't have it, of course, you can be excluded from it dylan the rnc says they are cutting ties with them for the debate. while debates are meant to include tough questions and contrast candidates, visions and policies for the future of the america, cnbc's moderators engaged in got ya questions,
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petty and mean spirited. what took place wednesday night was not an attempt to give the american people a greater understanding of our candidate's policies and ideas. so nbc said they will work in good faith to resolve this matter, dylan. what do you think the rnc and candidates really want? does a win look like here? >> sure, well, it's important to understand two things going on. that letter does reflect the real frustrations of the republican national committee with the debate that took place on wednesday night. at the same time, it's also a move by the rnc to assert control and do something dramatic to show they are serious about controlling these debates and making sure what happened with cnbc doesn't happen again and the reason they need it to take such a major dramatic step is because the campaigns have been very frustrated with the rnc's handling of this entire process and what we know is that representatives from many of these campaigns will meet on sunday night without the rnc to
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sort of discuss how their needs and their concerns can be addressed. among those concerns, more substantive debate, more time to respond to questions, more time for individual statements, what many of the campaigns want is not so much a debate as a forum, they want to get up on stage and have a chance to talk about issues they care about responding in 30 seconds ocr a minute to got ya questions is not what they want. >> before i let you go quickly, can you answer nbc news doesn't have editorial control. many people don't know that. is it fair to hold them responsible? >> no, that's a really great point. in fact, the person they sent the letter to was nbc news chairman andrew lack who doesn't have control over cnbc. in fact, very explicitly doesn't but in the eyes of conservatives and republicans the whole nbc news family lumps that together and use a liberal network to
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fault nbc news and that's what you're seeing going on here. to your point, no, there is no editorial control nbc news has over cnbc but share reporting resources. >> thank you, sir, appreciate it. have a great weekend. i want to bring in hue huet and author of "the queen, the epic ambition of hillary clinton and coming of a second clinton era. good evening to you, sir. >> hi, don. >> were the questions really that bad? >> oh, they were terrible and i do believe the ryan priebus letter was appropriate but andy lack has got a reputation for being very sophisticated and effective. reince priebus was a great chairman. the coming out of this will be an agreement that the houston debate will be moderated by chuck todd, rich lowry from the national view and maybe tom and peace will break out when it's realized the objective of the exercises is to help republican primary voters pick the
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candidate who will beat hillary clinton. not to embarrass them, not to call them comic book characters and i think it comes down to this, it's a skill set. i'm a question asker, you're a question asker. chuck todd, jake tapper are question askers, dana bash. i don't think the people this week were very experienced of asking questions of political people. so nbc will agree to provide no editorial guarantees but agree to provide experienced questions. >> certainly very -- they are experienced journalists, no doubt. i know carl and he is a very experienced journalist. i want you to take a listen to this clip. >> you've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. you once told a contestant on "celebrity apprentice" it would be nice to see her on her knees.
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>> other than politicpolitics, you explain why in the last two years you changed your position on a path to citizen ship and are there other past positions we shouldn't hold you to. >> governor christie, you said senator paul's opposition to the collection of phone records made the united states weaker and more vulnerable going so far as to say he should be called before congress to answer to it if we should be hit by another terrorist attack. >> that's the fox debate in august. how is this different, hue? >> they were both bad. i did not like the fox debate. i liked the cnn debate. i think the best debate question that's been asked thus far was anderson cooper saying edward snowden, hero or traitor. i want to hear the candidates answer tough questions. i asked marco rubio and donald trump about syria. it was a very tough, very pointed question. no one was mad at me afterwards.
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that's what people want to know, tough pointed questions, not softballs, not talking point invitations but not the speech and personal attacks for the interview setting, for the one on one on sunday morning, a debate is when the candidate should talk to each other about that which distinguishes positions and why they are better. >> don't you think during the fox debate at least there was more context given to the reason for the questioning they quoted the candidates in their own words and then asked them a question off of that? >> well, look, the fox debate was not as bad as cnbc. i know a lot of people survived rollovers on the highway and this was ironically out of that car that rolled over on wednesday night, marco rubio, ted cruz and chris christie sprinted unharmed but none of the moderators got out. the first debate everybody got banged up. the cnn debate with dana bash and me, i think university
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well-regarded and 23 million people agreed. so there is a happy medium with a strong moderator, with well-prepared professionals. mark preston basically lived in my head for four weeks before that debate working, working, working. so it takes practice and preparation and i just didn't see that this week. i saw -- even the sound guys were off, don. >> yeah, mark is very experienced politically and been here at cnn for quite sometime. i know mark preston. wow. just kidding, mark. >> no, i can speak a second language now which is profanity. >> and the accent, the new england accent. first, they complain about the length of the debate, when it was here on cnn and say they didn't have enough time to talk. i mean, who bears the responsibility for this? is it the rnc? is it the -- who -- what gives here? >> it's not the rn, c. it is the debate panelist.
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i like the ground rules. i think there was plenty of time and i think jake gave plenty of time to respond. what ben carson complained about today was not giving the opportunity to people like chris christie if you get asked about climate change, step back. that takes three or four minutes to explain. >> he wants more time octo play out your platform. >> i agree with that. you don't get to just give you talking points over and over. that is speechifying and the reason 23 million people watched cnn is there was conflict and drama. if you make it boring talking points, you have two people watching that will turn the channel and not make the case marco rubio made to paul sing there you ought to come with me. the interesting part about this week's debate was a train wreck is that it did help some people make up their minds, it helped marco rubio a lot, ted cruz a
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lot. chris christie, carly fiorina a little bit but the future ones need to make more of a balance about that person at the dining room table in iowa who doesn't know who to caucus for. >> if you had the title rnc chair, what would you do? >> i'd say i'd like to have chuck todd, rick lowry ask the questions for two and a half hours and don't worry about people having two minutes more or less and put everyone in chairs. i don't like that, the best debate of modern times was joe, dick cheney and one moderator at a table. >> i remember them sitting at a table back at one of the debates in 2012. i think they sat down. thank you hugh hewitt. >> always a pleasure. up next, protesters from black lives matter disrupt a campaign event at a historically black university in atlanta and new rival taking donald trump to task for views on immigration.
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talk to axa today. welcome back, you're looking at live pictures, this is hillary clinton, candidate for president speaking tonight. she will be at the naacp dinner in north charlton, south carolina and as you know, she had a little bit of controversy today involved in earlier
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protest stage of disruption at a hillary clinton campaign event chanting black lives matter while she's delivering campaign remarks. here is how it went down. >> using the power of the feelings that tom -- >> black lives matter! >> yes, they do. yes, they do. >> black lives matter! >> yes, they do and i'm going to talk a lot about that in a minut minute. >> hillary! hillary! >> now, my friends, i am going to get to some very important points that actually prove that
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black lives do matter and we have to take action together. >> suzanne joins me now. you've covered a lot of campaign rallies and speeches and white house correspondent at one point. you were there. you saw it go down. walk us through what happened and what your impressions were. >> reporter: don, it was absolutely incredible. this is like nothing i've ever seen before because this went on for nearly 30 minutes if you can imagine. the hillary clinton campaign folks said there were 2100 people at this rally, this was ten, ten people black lives matter who came in and walked into the room about five minutes into hillary clinton's speech started shouting black lives matter, black lives matter and tried to address it saying black lives do matter. let me explain why. they were not satisfied with that and started chanting what the hell do you know? then hillary clinton started trying to tell stories about the
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stories of civil rights leaders and john lewis, dorothy height, some people cheered but not able to drawn out the protestors and at that point the congressman and mayor of atlanta went down on the floor. they pleaded with them. they talked to them at some point they were trying to gently try and push them out the room. that did not go over well at all. this went on, don, this stand off between hillary clinton and black lives matter for a good 25 minutes. you can imagine the distraction she talked over them, cameras, cell phones went out. everybody was taking pictures and videos. at some point, john lewis and the mayor gave up and decided they could not convince them to stop and so they therefore went on stage with hillary clinton, literally shoulder to shoulder behind her to show her, figuratively and literally they had her back. at that point, and it seemed like a signal to security, security came in, escorted them out. the crowd erupted saying let her talk, let her talk, let her speak. it was a big applause.
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she went on, don, to talk art her criminal justice reform for another five or ten minutes and instead of running off the stage after she was done. she stayed for another 30 minutes shaking hands, taking selfies with the choir. laughing with students, really just trying to own this if you will and as you know, i know you're going to talk to lives of black lives matters but i talked to protesters kicked out today and they believe they did the right thing and had to make this gesture, stance, they will not be taken for granted by hillary clinton and that's something they were very concerned about this evening and we also caught up with congressman john least, my colleague who said he wasn't offended but he was disappointed because he said it was unfortunate they didn't listen to what she had to say because he thought she had a prescription. >> we that. let's listen to it real quick. >> they represent another time,
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another period and they were trying to make a point to dramatize what the concern is about. i think the movement need to continue reaching out and addressing the concerns and needs of people. it is unfortunate that they didn't listen to the secretary because i think she would have answered many of their questions that they are concerned about. >> several of the black lives matter organizations, the groups, protesters there were disappointed to hear congressman lewis say that. they said what else are we supposed to do here? we want to go beyond the rhetoric. we want to get something done. they felt they really wanted the support of those in the room with them and clearly, that was not coming from the traditional civil rights icons and i think don, it illustrates demonstrates what hillary clinton is dealing with here.
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she clearly does have a lot of support from traditional civil rights leader but not clear if she has it from young black leaders and supporters which she'll need to get a victory. >> let's talk about this now with someone there. joining me now is avery jackson, a group with hashtag acu shut it down. he was at the clinton event. let's talk about the last thing suzanne talked about. how -- they said people there were disappointed to hear john lewis say what he had to say. why would they be disappointed with that? >> i think we were disappointed because senator john lewis is someone we do look up to. we do pull on the spirits of people that have organized on this movement prior to us to guide us and he is someone who used our tactics and he got the push back that we got from people who had that generational divide, as well, and hopefully, we were hoping it would be an understanding there for him to
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see that we had different methods and tactics and people have different ways to accomplish their goals -- >> so mr. jackson, let me ask you this, congressman john lewis but people -- he would say that you used his tactics, he didn't use yours. that you're using his tactics because he was dr. king's. they started it all and sort of made the way for you. so if you had this experienced politician who is a civil rights icon and legend and he's saying hey, listen, young people. i'm trying to talk to you and tell you we're listening to you. we got senator clinton here. we're going to make sure she listens to you. we got the mayor of atlanta, one of the biggest and influential is t in the nation, we're here listening trying to tell your behinds, your young people hey, listen to us, we got you. chill out and listen to her. so why wouldn't you do that? >> i think that is the issue.
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we seen what hillary clinton did today. it was pushing an image of what it means to be black and represent black people on these platforms and what we have seen from leaders who do represent us in official position, they often times represent one image of black people and one agenda of black people and the experiences and the stories and opinions that are erased are those of us who spoke out today, right? hillary clinton came to the atlanta university center and didn't necessarily reach out to us and speak to us before hand -- >> if you're yelling at me, listen, just playing devil'se a advocate, if you're yelling at me and screaming and not even five minutes into the speech and you come in, wouldn't you say listen, give me a chance and if you don't like what i have to say, then you can yell at me. >> i think we listened to hillary talk for awhile and we have to move past rhetoric and get to action. though hillary clinton made some great suggestions, what we are
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here to do is continue to provide that pressure and heat to make sure we're making progress to realize solutions and not just rhetoric. >> here is what it is. she says she would endorse legislation, she's not president, yet, okay? if she becomes president, legislation banning racial profiling by law enforcement. she said she would ban federal employers from asking job seekers about their prior criminal convictions and wants to eliminate the distinction between crack and cocaine drug sentences. aren't these the actions black lives matter would be on board about? >> that's the kind of rhetoric that we are on board for but i think we need to see those put into real policy suggestions, right, and i think what hillary clinton is doing is starting a conversation that we've been having for a long time. we know these things are issues and know that the things that she out laid today are issues but we reached past the point of recognizing issues and talking about what our real life solutions and having those brought to us. if you are going to run for the
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president of the united states, i think it's time for you to really give solutions black people who rr rare americans re are at the priority and center of the conversation. >> okay. i heard you. thank you, mr. jackson. appreciation you coming on. >> thank you. up next, gop candidates complaining about the debate questions. do they have a point or being whining. the political experts will join us next. withof my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis... ordinary objects often seemed... intimidating. doing something simple... meant enduring a lot of pain. if ra is changing your view of everyday things orencia may help. orencia works differently by targeting a source of ra early in the inflammation process.
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we're doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. the battle over the debate intensifies, rnc suspending ties. cnn political commentator and author of "i should be dead, my life surviving politics, tv and addiction" and douglas brinkly, cnn presidential historian. so listen, bob, i want to talk to you about this before and i think there was some miscommunication about dorothy. she is no longer with us. so if there was confusion, we apologize for that, i apologize for that. i want to talk to you about that. i know that john lewis and civil rights struggle very close to
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you, what do you think of what happened today? >> i think it was ridiculous. i think they should have listened. i think what hillary clinton has been saying is exactly the things they want to hear about. john lewis said the same thing and john lewis was on the front lines, john lewis has been beat up, arrested, so has my dad and so was i. i just find it, i think it's time for them to be quiet and listen and then have their say but i just think to sit there and to be little somebody for saying the things they want them to say is just crazy. >> historically, douglas brinkley, you know, the civil rights movement obviously happened but historically, has there been anything that you can see that equates to sort of the black lives matter movement and the presidential campaign? >> well, i think all this is an out growth with the occupy wall street movement.
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if you're going to occupy wall street to criticize financial shenaniga shenanigans, you're going to occupy political stages. this is the theater of the '60s, 1960s civil rights movement but there was dick gregory running for president in 1968 and people, a lot of disruption at conventions by african american groups trying to bring a consciousness level to things. i thought -- >> that's considered hanging -- >> let him finish, bob. >> well, people are being shot in america now. black lives matter and trayvon martin and i think there is a lot of legit ma si to black lives matter bs they shouldn't have disrupted hillary clinton, if they did it should have lasted a second and been a hackler. people may have been having to go baby sit or go back to their job and ruin the event for everybody. i don't think it was a good
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moment for them but the movement itself -- >> hang on, tara, i'm going to pose a question to you because douglas brinkley mentioned occupy wall street. where is that now? are they possibly could face the same fate if they keep talking and not listening? >> yes, that's the point i was going to make. whether you feel black lives matter has la get ma si or not. things like this do not help their cause. hillary clinton is obviously an ally. she was there at a historically black school speaking on criminal justice reform trying to layout a plan. your guest before was talking in circles. they still continue to disrupt. so between these antics and then you have the other elements within black lives matter screaming about pigs in a
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blanket and killing cops, they are going to delegitimize themself right out of having credibility. >> okay. let's move on. let's talk about the debates, "the new york times" is reporting the influential and wealthy republican donor, paul singer, cnn has reporting, is throwing support behind marco rubio. how big of a blow is this to the jeb bush campaign, do you think? >> listen, jeb bush is a goner, okay? he is -- any time you have a candidate that has to go out there and say my candidacy is not on life support means it's on life support. jeb bush has been on a -- his campaign has been hemorrhaging for many months now and even more so in the last week with his comments about oh, i could have cooler things i could do rather than run for president and be miserable. that's not great and had a terrible debate performance where just marco rubio ate his lunch. so now you have a c.o.o. resign of the campaign.
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when you see staff changes like that at higher levels, it's not a good thing and now, the dow donors have been worried. and with a major donor like singer, that's just a signal that the mayor donor class does not have confidence in jeb bush anymore and rubio is the guy and you're going to see the slow demise of jeb bush. >> bob beckel? >> well, i mean, i said last night that this was a donor debate as much as anything else. >> you did. you actually did. >> donors would look at the race and decide whether their candidate was somebody who would be up for the long haul and clearly some of bush's people did not. this is a big blow to bush and it won't be the last. one of the problems is that he's got a lot of money but a huge burn rate in presidential politics. they are spending millions of dollars a day and i did this for myself when we were behind gary heart and took everything we had and through it into alabama and georgia and got back in the race
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but when you do those kinds of things, you're not kidding anybody. you're not reorganizing. you're putting yourself a life raft out there and you're getting on it. >> and he's already cut his campaign by 45%. that came down this week, too. >> stand by, stand by, everyone. i want you to listen to this. you're going to have to comment on it. here is hillary clinton. >> end to racial profiling across america on every level. federal, state and local, i don't care where it happens, it's wrong. it's demeaning. it doesn't keep us safe. it doesn't help solve crimes. it's time to end this practice once and for all. i will also fight to end the era of mass incarceration. we have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prison population. many americans behind bars right
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now are low level offenders. predominantly drug users. keeping them in prison to reduce crime and break communities apart. right now, one out of every 28 children in america has a parent in prison. you talk about the pipeline that goes from the cradle to prison it starts when a family is broken up for no real reason. >> hillary clinton speaking in north charleston tonight, naacp meeting. i want to bring the panel back in. douglas brinkley, these are the kinds of issues hillary clinton spoke about similar issues today when she was speaking in atlanta, yet was interrupted, wasn't given the chance to speak about and this is certainly part
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of her platform, so it is perplexing, you know, some of the tactics black lives matter has taken when it comes to hillary today. >> well, i think that's true. it was silly when they interrupted bernie sanders like that, too, but look, we're talking about these issues. it's not clear we would be running hillary clinton tonight on cnn at the naacp meeting except they created a bit of controversy today. this was the tactics used in the '60s where yippees would come and protest and cameras would come and made news. the story is how well hillary clinton handled all this today. she did a marvelous job in the afternoon continuing into the evening and she's really just the clip use just played is tackling big issues for african american and does concern the black lives matter movement. it's been a good day for hillary clinton. >> and it was live. stand by, everyone. we'll take a break and come back and continue the conversation. don't go anywhere.
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all right. live pictures again, hillary
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clinton, presidential candidate speaking now north charleston south carolina speaking at the naacp talking about issues, about important to african americans and to the black lives matter movement. back with me is my panel, douglas brinkley. bob, let's talk about these debates. what is your take on what you're hearing drop the rnc and these candidates? how does that make them look? >> well, i mean, cnbc looks like their stock is going to go down. the candidates are right, i mean, you cannot have a free for all like that. we're not running here for got ya questions. they are running for president of the united states and this format has got to change. you got to give people more time to speak and cnbc's people were not up to the job. they weren't presidentially, they didn't have any presidential experience and i think one of these days, somebody is going to get smart and put people who have had presidential experience on who can ask the kind of questions
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that need to be asked. >> douglas brinkley, aren't tough questions even bad questions or got ya questions, don't these moments allow stronger candidates to shine? i mean, they will face very tough questions once they are in the oval office, right? >> they definitely do, but, you know, i think a lot of people were thinking cnbc was going to ask about jobs and the economy. it seemed to be void of any substance and just a lot of cups flying quickly and i think it's donald trump sent the tone and tenner for these debates early on starting off with megyn kelly. ratings are high and have a lot of drama right out of the gate and i think we do need a little more substance seeping into this debate, these debates and my belief is cnn and cnbc will come to agreement and things will be back on track. it seems to have gotten out of hand last night. >> we talked about this a little bit before as you and i were getting ready to go on. i understand they said they want
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conservative hosts or hosts who understand conservative issues which is because you want someone who understands women's issues more than probably a man latino up there. should they all be consecondtives and republicans at a republican debate? >> i don't think they all should be. cnn brought in hugh hewitt. i think that was a fair thing to do for cnn, but i would hope that you have journalist who are journalists and objectives, not necessarily identity politics journalist. i don't think you have to necessarily be black or a woman to be able to ask objective questions in a presidential debate format. i think people who want professionalism and fairness. no one is running away from tough questions. the point was made of course you
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want tough questions and you want it to be fair and i've got to tell you, it just -- this just furthers the idea behind there is the main stream media is not -- >> got to go. >> they would never ask democrats those questions. >> thanks to all of you. appreciate it. coming up, donald trump has his fair chair of political rivals, trump versus bourdain battle. anthony bourdain joins me next. >> look at that walk. >> i'm limping. >> what happened? >> just jujitsu today. >> oh. >> i know you got --
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well, donald trump has a new rival. cnn host anthony bourdain. he's right here. we'll talk to him in a second. he is taking on trump for his flagship platform on immigration. take a look at this. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. >> they're illegal immigrants. they came over illegally. some are wonderful people and they've been here for a while. they've got to go out.
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>> these are illegal people. they're at least 11 million. who knows, could be 30 million. but they're at least 11 million. i've been hearing that number for years, so it could be less, could be more. we'll have a wall, a big, fat beautiful door right in the middle of the wall. we'll have people come in, but they're coming in legally. and mexico's going to pay for the wall. >> anthony bourdain say trump's massive deportation plan would mean every restaurant in america would shut down. the host of cnn's "parts unknown" joins me now live. you're sort of laughing, but that's a laugh of exasperation, right? >> look, it is a hypocritical and preposterous assumption, but are we seriously talking about deporting 11 million people at once or over a short -- are we actually having that conversation? look, i think honest, good-hearted people can disagree or have different opinions about whether or not we want to let
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anybody else in or how many people we want to let -- it is a legitimate position to say, okay, we can't take anymore. we're going to restrict access, we're going to make it tough. though i think the logistics of a wall are ludicrous and ugly. but let us, at least, all i'm asking is can we at least be honest about, who is working in america now, who has been working in america for some time. look, i was the backstairs help for 28 years, for much of my life. >> i want to get to the restaurant part. why do you say that. and i think that's where you're going. why would you say every america in restaurant would -- >> that's a hyperbole, but for 28 years of my life i was in the service industry, working in the restaurant industry, and i was surrounded by, supported by and inspired a significant, enormous portion of that industry, which were central americans, people
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from abroad, who were working for close to minimum wage, taking jobs that were very difficult to fill with americans, unfortunately. and they have been doing those jobs for some time. entry-level positions. >> and it's not a secret. >> this is no secret. >> everybody in the industry knows it. nobody wants to talk about it. but it is a huge proportion, not just of the restaurant industry, and mr. trump is surely aware of this, because, you know, he has interests in the hospitality, golf course, hotel, casino business. >> by his own admission. >> so it's dishonest. and all i'm saying is, do you really want to throw out people who have been here for ten years, who have no criminal records, who have set down roots, who have had children, who have been part and contributed to the american dream. you really want to just uproot them all at once and pack them out on trains? >> he says, yes, tony, he says, yes, he wants to do it. and that's a big part of his platform and it's resonating. >> these are ugly times and i
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find it, you know, my god, you know, this country was founded on the idea of being, you know, welcoming to people from elsewhere. >> do you at least agree with him that we wouldn't be discussing it to this level, even anthony bourdain, if he didn't bring it up? that's what he says. >> i think it takes a special kind of a person to start a conversation like this and he is definitely a special kind of a person. and i don't mean it in a good way. >> do you think it's worth having the conversation, though? >> i wish it wasn't him leading the conversation. i think -- look, as i said -- >> you said it's legitimate to -- >> to talk about, to regulating things in the future. but can we find a -- in good conscience, can we find a way, a path towards amnesty for people who have done the right thing and raised families here and contributed to the american dream. >> and you know the hospitality business. this sunday at 9:00 p.m., you're going to take us to borneo.
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you've went there, right? what do people say to you about america there? >> i think, like much of the world, they look at us as a hopeful place, a hopeful and increasingly strange place, that they would like to come. >> what's with the bare chest here? what's going on? >> i made the terrible mistake of get a traditional hand-tapped tattoo. while in borneo, i wanted to do like the triple elders who were covered with this fantastic tattoos. i thought, how bad can it hurt? it hurt, a lot. >> and it's still there? a permanent tattoo? >> yeah. >> i'll take a look to make sure right after. anthony bourdain returns to borneo on the next episode of "parts unknown," this sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> don't try this at home. >> ah, there it is! thank you. we'll be right back. hritis... ordinary objects often seemed...
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. i want you to meet another of this year's top ten cnn heroes. ten years ago, maggie adoring left her hometown in new jersey to take a backpacking trip in nepal and stumbled on to a new life. while there, she intended to help one needy child. today, she has become the mother of nearly 50. >> you know, i always said i would stop after 25. then the cap became 30. then the cap became 40. and then that kid comes in that you just can't say no to, that it's life or death. >> make sure you see maggie's full story at cnnheroes.com and while you're there, make sure
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you check out all of our top ten heroes and vote every day for your favorite. that's it for tonight. we'll see you back here on monday night at 10:00 p.m. have a great weekend. happy halloween. "anthony bourdain: parts unknown," you got to see it, he was just here on the show, it starts now. boo! i will never be young again. or any younger than i am today. i will never be faster or more flexible. i will never win competitions against 22-year-old wrestlers in my weight class. i will never be a black belt. none of those things will happen.

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