tv CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow CNN October 31, 2015 12:00pm-1:01pm PDT
thanks for waking up with me this afternoon. see you back here tomorrow. much more "newsroom" straight ahead. i'm poppy harlow. this just into cnn. the very first photo of -- images from egypt's sinai, chunks of debris strewn across the ground the russian metro jet carrying 224 people slammed into that rocky terrain. right now, the remains are being rushed to a more grieving families are waiting in anguish. russia state media reports
passengers returning from vacation. they were in the resort on the part of the peninsula. 17 children on board that flight also just into us here at cnn. the black boxes have been retrieved according to egypt's civil aviation minister in cairo. let's go straight to cnn senior international correspondent nic robertson in russia. ian lee is on the ground there in cairo. to you first, you've covered this area -- to this point about the developments of this early stage of the investigation. >> a lot of information to go over with you. we do know that the search area has the diameter of 5 miles. when you look at these pictures that are coming in from the egyptian government. what show is the terrain earlier
today, we were told by the government that it was a mountainous terrain and as we can see there, there weren't many mountains in the nearby facility. trying to go through and pick about what happened and get those bodies. we're hearing from the prime minister that 129 bodies have been recovered so far. they have been brought here from cairo. and we're learning from the civil aviation minister about the final moments before the crash. contradicted earlier reports that a distress call was issued. he said no distress call was issued by the pilot. the plane was there one minute and it disappeared. now the egyptian government is saying that no foul play is expected or suspected, rather. we're also hearing, a routine check before taking off.
and that nothing abnormal from radar as they can see. but those two black boxes very crucial have been recovered, they're on the way to cairo where analysts will go over them, as well as we're hearing that a team from airbus is going to be coming to cairo, as well from russia. so a lot of different people coming in to really try to figure out what caused this tragedy, poppy. >> live in cairo for us tonight. stay with me. >> 224 people they thought would be landing in st. petersburg. what are you seeing around you? >> they were collecting inside the airport, it's a much more somber picture here now, these flowers are being laid here in tribute. we've been standing here the last few hours, you see the toys at the end there, a man came and laid that white and gray toy the
a the end, the flowers people coming in and laying the carnations, the roses here, president putin has declared a day of national mourning on sunday. but already those families who gathered in here a little earlier waiting for their loved ones to arrive. they've been taken away to a nearby hotel. they've sent in 65 psychologists. we're told that 100 people. 100 of those family members have met with a psychologist, already getting medical help. also, the russian authorities have taken dna samples from 115 people already. they'll continue that process sunday morning. and in two hour's time, the first russian aircraft will take off on its way to cairo. we're told it's from the emergency ministry. and it'll be going to cairo to and bring them back. the bodies- already, the analysis, the early work and beginning to identify the bodies is happening with the families. the grieving process, that is
beginning with the families, the government giving psychologists to help them there. of course, the retrieval of the bodies back to russia here. 214 of the 224 people onboard were russian. this is being felt deeply here. and this is a small expression of it so far, poppy. >> nic robertson for us tonight, thank you very much. more now from our aviation panel. boeing 777 captain is with me. thank you, gentlemen, both for being here. i want to get to you first. the civilian aviation minister saying that no distress call is made, and saying, quote, there was nothing abnormal before the plane crash. it suddenly disappeared from the radar. as a pilot, what does that tell you? >> well, you know, i was looking, poppy, at the flight 24, the site. the airplane made it up to 33,000 feet, and it attained
normal speeds for crews. however, it got to very low air speeds which would indicate a stall, a stall situation. so that says to me the airplane wasn't under control. if you look at the crash site itself, there were big fragments there. which would indicate to me the airplane came down in a big piece or possibly broke up prior to hitting the -- >> let's talk about this brand new video we got in from the peninsula. absolute devastation. almost no piece of even the body intact. david, to you. when you look at these pictures, what does this tell you? >> well, i'm not certain we're looking at the entire aircraft with these pictures to be honest with you. as les said, the possibility that it hit in one piece and hit in several pieces. if it hits in more than one area. if there's more than one impact zone, then that means that there
was some separation in flight. too early to tell that right now. but from looking at the pictures, it doesn't look like a complete accident scene to me. there's no evidence of wings. yet, there's no evidence of extreme burning from the wings either. so it appears to me preliminary, of course, that this is not the entire accident site. there are other places where there are pieces of this aircraft. >> les, it is very rare for a plane to have an incident like this in mid flight. usually you've got takeoff and landing is the most, you know, when you see it the most, this is extraordinary rare. but now, air france, two major global carriers are coming out and saying they're avoiding flying around this area right now. does that surprise you? >> no, i applaud them. you know, they're exercising extreme caution. we're at a preliminary stage of this investigation at this po t point, so it's hard to say exactly what's happening. dave will back me up on this. you can't follow any particular
path. we hear a lot. but at this point, listen, if i was an airline like air france, i would do exactly what they were doing. >> but why are they doing that? >> well, it's possible that there was a missile strike. i doubt it very much from the preliminary reports. >> at 30,000 feet? was that that high? >> well, it was. i believe it was in the 30s. >> okay. >> this airplane looked like it attained an altitude of 33,500 feet. it's possible. >> david, as we talk about this investigation moving forward, it is in the early stages, but look, you've got the egyptian government involved because that's where the crash took place. the russian government involved. you've got france -- ultimately who decides? >> at this point, the jurisdiction -- because it landed there and that immediates
investigation is done by that country. however, because it's a russian carrier, the russian civil aviation authority is who will actually conduct that investigation. now, you need to bring in france because the engine -- baa the airframe. you need to bring in the united states because of the engines. and that's the responsibility of the investigator who with don't know who that is at this point. but we will soon. especially the fact that we have the two black boxes right now. those need to be controlled. by the iic. those will provide a lot of answers. thank you very much. next to politics we go. jeb bush, the republican
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to politics now. and jeb bush on a mission this weekend to prove, and i'm using his words, to prove his campaign is, quote, not on life support. today, he is in iowa. he's focusing on his ground game in that crucial state. after debate performance this week that even his supporters describe as lackluster and disappointing. and out comes news that bush's rival, senator marco rubio has picked up the endorsement of billionaire paul singer, that is one of the wealthiest and most influential republican donors in this country. singer described rubio in a letter to other donors as, quote, the best explainer of
conservatism in public life today. he went on to say, quote, in a field full of promise, but also of risk for the party. senator rubio is the strongest choice. let's bring in cnn in des moines, iowa where jeb bush is set to speak at this event. a lot of folks behind you waiting to hear from him. how big of a stepback do you think it is for bush that paul singer did not opt with him and put his money behind bush? did he put it behind rubio? >> well, it's a big blow to bush, poppy. and certainly, a major boost to marco rubio. financially, of course, but also almost more importantly, symbolically. of course can really donate a lot of money to rubio's super pac millions of dollars if he chooses. but this was someone who the bush campaign has been trying to woo. in the last two weeks, sources tell cnn's dana bash that many
advisers traveled to new york trying to convince him to come to his side. that did not turn out as they wanted. >> absolutely. and when you listen to what jeb bush has said. another thing he said, i'm running with heart. i'm not a performer. obviously, signaling to donald trump who is still leading most of the polls. if you look at how bush is performing in iowa. let's take a look at this poll. this is the most recent one. bloomberg des moines register showing support for jeb bush is just 5%. he trails carson, trump, cruz and rubio. are you seeing signs of concern from the bush camp? >> well, i think when you talk to supporters here in iowa, they will admit some quiet concern -- cause for concern on the campaign. i spoke with many bush supporters here at this gop forum today. and they admitted that, yes, jeb bush is going through a rough patch over the course of his campaign. many say for thousand, they are going to stick with him. they believe in him. here's what a few of the
supporters told us earlier today. >> i've seen jeb bush in front of 20 people, in front of 40 people, 400 people, and he's really glib and articulate. gets in front of a camera, he gets tongue tied, i think. through the prism of the tv, you might have questions about him. but if you see him up close and personal, all the questions are answered in the positive, i think. >> i think that really what he has talked about is just staying strong. just kind of, like, making sure that he stays in the running, that he is there, that he's doing his job. >> i think things are going pretty good. i know a lot of people are concerned about, you know, different things, poll numbers and things like that. but i can't help but look back at, you know, the last few cycles and we're talking about guys like rudy giuliani and rick santorum. we're not talking about president giuliani or santorum. >> and i think one of the most interesting things coming out of iowa is most of the people added
qualifiers to what they told me about the support of jeb bush. many saying i support bush right now. i support bush at this moment. so, clearly, they're not ready to jump ship. not ready to declare that they're not supporting jeb, be they're certainly leaving a door open, poppy, for later, maybe moving to caucus for someone else. poppy? >> absolutely. thank you very much. we appreciate it. coming up here on monday night, a cnn special report you will not want to miss. it's been 15 years since that 2000 election. and our gloria borger takes you back to bush versus gore. the endless election. only here on cnn. up next, president obama, a president elected to end wars is now expanding the u.s. front in the fight against isis. could this move on the ground in syria be the turning point against the terror group? or will it just draw america further into a long and bloody civil war? that's next. whatever you're doing, plan well and enjoy life... ♪
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significant escalation, president obama committed a small number of u.s. ground troops to syria. this coming from a president elected on a campaign pledge to end america's involvement in wars overseas. it opens a new front in the kurdish controlled region of the country. and the white house says there will be fewer than 50 special operations forces sent right now to syria. >> these forces do not have a combat mission. this is not in any way an attempt to diminish the risk that they will face or the bravery they will need to summon to carry out these operations. >> cnn military analysts, retired army lieutenant with me, he served in iraq. and when you look at this. yes, it is less than 50. but i've also heard a lot of analysts and military experts like you say this is very significant in terms of the potential it has against isis. do you agree? >> i do, poppy. and i think the potential for what these small groups of
people, these teams can do when they're embedded in the right elements is significant. especially when you talk about the additional air power that's just right over the border from this location and in through turkey. you're going to have the capability of supporting not only kurdish forces, very nationalistic in their approach, but also the fabric of various tribal forces, which are now coming together even calling themselves by one name, the syrian democratic front. and they conducted some operations beginning last night against isis. so you're already sighing some momentum generated by the support that's being given by -- through air power and potentially guidance on the ground. >> it was interesting, obviously, the president got some support for this. also some pushback. you have texas republican and the chairman of the house armed services committee coming out yesterday saying this. saying i do not see a strategy
for success. rather, it seems, this administration's trying to avoid disaster while the president runs out the clock. what do you make of that? >> i don't buy that, poppy. i actually think the strategy has actually been pretty good. he's attempting to keep large amounts of american ground forces out of this area of operation and allow the indigenous forces for syrian rebels and iraqi security forces to fight the fight. i know that you can't lead this fight. i think that's -- in as we saw more and more people. >> talk about this tactically and strategically how this works when you're putting these special ops forces on the ground in syria in the north in the kurdish controlled area while you've got russian planes carrying out those air strikes. how much does that complicate
things? >> going into the territories where these kurdish and free syrian forces russia's almost exclusively concerning itself with establishing an defensive enclave for mr. assad while at the same time the port and the airfiel airfields. we are contributing more or helping to contribute more to the fight against isis. the russian -- i think you may see additional special operators into this area. the president has been adamant that he is not going to send ground combat forces.
and i know there's a lot of semantic debate about this. i think those of us in the military understand exactly what he means. we don't want large formation of americans fighting solely on their own. the security and that's what we're contributing to. and we've seen that in recent reports by cnn and when you're with the kurdish there. i think we may see some additional special operators going to the region. but it will be minimal in terms of numbers. >> general, thank you for your service, thank you for your expertise on this, i appreciate it. coming up next, police departments in this country desperately in need -- >> found out it is a hard sell in a lot of places. why is that. ue psoriasis...
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back to our breaking news coverage of that russian metro jet crash that killed all 224 people onboard. we have these brand new photos in to show you. as you can see, the absolute devastation. chunks of metal, debris scattered across egypt's sinai peninsula. both of the black boxes have been recovered within the last hour. no survivors. and that means no witnesses to offer an explanation of what could've brought this plane down. egypt's aviation says the crash is most likely due to a technical failure and there are no signs of terrorism at this point. we'll keep you posted on what we learn. right now, victims' remains are being rushed to a morgue, grieving families, waiting in st. petersburg where that plane was supposed to land waiting for answers. authorities have recovered the remains of at least 130 people thus far.
and russia's state media reports that most of the passengers were returning from vacation there. 17 children were aboard that plane. this week, we saw president obama wade into the controversy over the effect. the idea that the scrutiny of police officers that have increased since the death of michael brown has made some officers reluctant to fight crime. the president's response to that, we can't cherry pick the data. >> i want to be as clear as i can be. i reject any narrative that seeks to divide police and communities that they serve. i reject the story line that says when it comes to public safety, there's an "us" and a "them." >> but here's the thing, police departments across this country right now are struggling to find
to take on the job. the los angeles police academy where the next generation of cops learn how and when to fire. and takedown moves. suspects, put your hands up. the recruit officer longs to wear the badge. even if others around her don't support her career choice. >> i think that is not as easy for the people, you know, for our family members or our friends to actually accept the profession we're going into just because the perception that african-americans have toward law enforcement. >> a perception affected by high-profile officer-involved shootings from ferguson, missouri to north charleston, south carolina, to cincinnati, ohio.
outrage leading to high profile targeted killings of police officers. the fallout seen across the country as police departments struggle to attract new officers. in philadelphia, the number of police recruits has dropped 47% in 2014 compared to 2008. since 2013, new york the biggest police force, applications are down 18%. in los angeles, 16%. lieutenant aaron mccraney joined at another tough time for cops, the rodney king era. he's now in charge of trying to convince future cops to join. >> when you go out and talk to recruits, potential recruits, are you hearing them mention news events? >> sure. one of the first questions. they want to know, okay, why should i be a police officer when all of these bad things are going on? why should i put myself at risk? >> coupled with relatively low pay and tough entrance standards.
and that chance they could be hurt or kill. this is a hard sell. especially for women and minorities. but not for asia hardy. she wants to improve not just her community, but how others review her and her brothers in blue. >> this is a personal choice -- >> a number of the police departments with spoke to say it's not just public perception affecting the applications, it's also the job market as well as the economy, they say these things are cyclical and they hope this is the bottom. c, in, in, los angeles. cnn, los angeles. >> joining me now to talk about it, cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, thanks for being with me, tom. >> tom, if you can hear me, let's talk about why you think is happening. you heard one of the recruits in
the piece and one of the officers in charge of recruiting say some of the young folks are asking him why should we be police officers? what's your take? >> well, i think it is the concern that, you know, there's a divide between minority communities. and police at large. the law enforcement community. and i think that, you know, hearing the president's remarks kind of i found ridiculous, frankly. i was at the director's speech in chicago last week. the black lives matter movement. and people for the law enforcement lives matters. need to listen to the minority community. he went right down the middle saying both sides need to talk and need to try to resolve the issues that are plaguing law enforcement and law enforcement in the communities. so, he wasn't taking sides. he wasn't criticizing. he wasn't cherry picking data,
that data came from people who they're talking to. maybe the director watched the talk with the baltimore officers when they were behind the screen talking about the trouble they're having on the street. and he's talked to other police officers, hade quoted talking t other police officers recently, the director, about the same phenomenon. i think what's been coming out of the white house following the director's speech is frankly not true, not accurate. and they should listen to the most knowledgeable law enforcement official in their administration. >> so let's listen to what part of what fbi director did say. let's roll it. >> the question that's been asked to me is, are these kinds of things changing police behavior all over the country? and is that what explains the map and the calendar? i don't know and i don't know
that explains it entirely. but i do have a strong sense that some part of the explanation is a chill wind that's blown through the law enforcement over the last year. and that is surely changing behavior. >> going forward, tom, what is the one thing you think could help most to repair some of those broken relationships between some police and their communities? >> i think the communities and the police need to have a serious objective discussion about what it's going to take to bring the homicide rate down in those communities. and frankly, the people from the black lives matter movement, the clergy, the politicians are not on the street at midnight dealing with the people with guns that are shooting down young black men and the director quoted that, un, that the estimates that he's hearing from police are that about 95% of the victims of these homicides, the spike in homicides were young
minority members and 95% of the people who are shooting them and killing them are from minority groups. and that who's going to stop that? basically, it's the police. not any other organization or community leader or activist is going to be out there to take guns away from the people who are killing other kids in those communities. >> tom, thank you very much. a lot more to discuss. we'll have you back. >> thank you, poppy. >> coming up next, actress leah remini taking aim at scientology and tom cruise. she spoke out last night about one of hollywood east most bankable stars. her criticism of him and scientology next.
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religious bigotry. and i understand the position they're in. i was in the same position i said similar things about it. >> leah remini's scorching comments come ahead of the release of her memoir. on abc's "20/20," the star of the hit sitcom "king of queens" described her 30 years as a scienologist. she said church leaders reprimanded her for a remark she made while teaching salsa dancing to tom cruise and his then girlfriend, katie holmes. >> he was forcibly kissing katie. i said, hey, get a room. i was written up for that. >> she added later, she became more critical of cruise saying much of the movie star's behavior, such as jumping on a couch expressing his love for holmes was unbefitting of a scienologist. the church fired back. >> being critical of tom cruise is being critical of scientology itself. you are a person who is anti-the
aims and goals of scientology. you are evil. >> cruise has been taking on for his advocacy for scientology before. >> have you heard of scientology? >> south park creators mock cruise and became entangled with the church. remini explains she angered the church during the wedding and written up in what was called knowledge reports. >> i had disrupted the wedding, that i basically destroyed the wedding. >> what ensued according to remini, more scathing, written reports on her. part of a scientology culture. in a recent statement, the church said about remini, quote, she needs to move on with her life instead of pathetically exploiting her former religion, former friends and other celebrities for money to be relevant again. she left the church in 2013 and now she's trying to leave a
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that's all i have to say. thank you guys for being here. and congratulations on everything. sona tell us about the app you guys created? >> we created an app which our motto was to benefit our community through action and wanted to create -- our goal was to create a more compassionate society in such a self-centered generation and it's based on connecting volunteers to local people with teenagers and like college people or even like organizations and connect them and have like a one center location where they can find everything they need. >> i love that. lesl leslie, you produced "waiting for superman." what was it about girls and tech that made you want to make this movie? >> so many things. in 2013 i was making another film and i heard about this contest and it's one thing to kind of say to a teen girl from
any country and say you're smart, great in science, pick a different career, go into technology. >> right. >> it's another for technovation to come up with this cool contest. every high school girl has a cell phone. they say to them look around you, what problem do you see and how would you solve it? and all of a sudden they're like i'm 15 or i'm 16, really? what do i think? and these guys are just a perfect example of how excited these girls, you know, in addition to all of their sports and basketball stars and everything else, and get up at 7:00 in the morning and work on their apps. it's really important. >> crystal, one of the things that stood out to me is one of the girls from the other teams said it's hard to get excited about what you can't see and you don't see many girls encoding so it's hard to get excited and tell people this is what i want to do.
what do you think about that? >> for me it's actually the opposite because i feel like because i can't see that i want to make that happen. so not being able to see that many girls i want to be that one to spark the growth of technology in the girls' world. >> labor department says by 2020 just about after you guys graduate there will be an estimate 1.2 million job openings for computer specialists and scientists. what do you want to do with this huge skill that you have now? >> i was just really looking forward to getting out in the world and doing what i love. i had the privilege of taking a bunch of computer science classes at my high school. just knowing there'll be something i can do outside of regular classes, that makes me
super excited to be able to code. >> leslie, we heard marco rubio say in the debate this week and many others saying we should train this generation for this jobs of this generation and of the future. do you think coding should be mandatory in every public school across this country? >> i think that offering coding classes should be mandatory. i don't think it's necessarily needing to be mandatory that everyone should take that but they should be offered. one of my goals with the film is that every high school girl in america should take at least one coding class if they haven't already. to address that further, if 51% of the population is somehow not involved in the design of technology or any of the major decisions going along with technology, that's going to bring us back and cause all sorts of problems in the long-run. we can't be avid users especially girls, we can't be
avid users of technology and not also create and write it. >> i agree. i got ten seconds. down the line, who is your idol. who do you want to be like? >> marissa meyers. >> who else? >> my mom. >> audrey hepburn. >> i love all those. i love them. guys, wishing you all the best. it's an inspiring film and i know you're going to go very far. thank you for being with me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> see you later. for all offwatching you can see "code girls" sunday in theaters and on demand starting november 6th. follow them on twitter @co @codegirlmovie. coming up. horrific tragedy in the cy nye pen since la. a wreckage airliner carrying more than 200 people onboard. so many questions remain. we'll have much more after the break.
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