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thank you so much for joining us. i hope you have a great weekend. of course, you can catch our show on cnn international tomorrow and sunday. "ac 360" starts now. good evening we begin tonight with breaking news, the deliberate downing of metro jet flight 9268. pop gran da video calling it revenge for russian air strikes and warning of more to come. security experts will have more to say momentarily. it came as investigators analyzing the flight recorders say the data leads them to conclude a bomb brought it down. in short, they believe that someone or some group murdered 224 men, women and children. the black box dives with american and british intelligence what happened to the plane heading back to st. petersburg from the egyptian resort city of sham el-sheikh.
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this is intelligence share that took drastic action on travel to and from egypt and the tsa took action on flights coming into the country. a lot to cover and revealing about on going security problems and major american airports. pal la brown has the latest. >> reporter: investigators analyzing the plane's black boxes say sounds of an explosion can be heard on the cockpit voice recorder and according to french media, those investigatiinvestigato investigators say with confidence, those sounds did not stem from technical failure. as debris spreads, focus remains on egypt's sham el-sheikh airport where the aircraft departed. british intelligence officials believe an insider at the airport may have planted a bomb in the plane's cargo hold right next to the aircraft's fuel line according to the bbc. >> yeah, food service workers,
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baggage handlers, maintenance personnel, all sorts of folks that have legitimate access and if you look statistically, working on those folks, somebody will be a bad actor. may not have a terrorist intent but can be exploited. >> reporter: officials say chatter coming from isis in the sinai peninsula suggests the terrorist group could be behind the plot. russian officials say that intelligence has been shared with them but egypt says they know nothing about it. >> we would have like the uk not to make a decision until the full reports concerning the crash has been published. >> reporter: today after u.s. and british officials share their intelligence, russian president vladimir putin made the bold announcement that russia is suspending all flights to egypt. officials in egypt continue to push back saying it is still too early to know what caused the crash. >> pamela brown joins us.
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we understand you got new information about the so-called chatter from isis. >> we learned who was on the other end. it was isis and syria. intelligence officials were able to pick up communications between isis and the sinai peninsula and essentially the mother ship, isis and syria and boasting about the bomb and the plane and they don't know if it was an attempt by this active and to gain favor to try to impress and the plane crash however it is serious enough for officials here in the u.s. and as we've heard in great britain and elsewhere to say a bomb ing is a strong possibility and russia stopped flights to europe. it is concerning but again,
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anderson, there have been no conclusions. >> you mean stop flights to egypt. >> stop flights to egypt, that's right. >> pamela brown, thank you for the reporting. >> we learned some extra security measures we spoke about at the top of the broadcast will be instituted in cairo. a lot to talk about with the panel. richard quest, cnn safety analyst and former faa accident investigator and former cia officer bob bear and analyst paul. if this was a bomb planted on board this flight by someone that worked there, this is a game changer. >> and remains to be. if this was a bomb, if this was a bomb, we know it's an explosion and everything points towards it being a bomb. and so let's continue our discussion if you like on that assumption. if it is a bomb that has been put on this plane then all the planning that's gone into post 9/11 really goes for nothing when it comes to these weaker airports and what u.s. authority haves to do with the british and
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others is go into these airports and systemically work out what's gone wrong other wise the alternative is simple. you don't get direct flights. >> what i don't understand, it's not as if the egyptian government doesn't have a ton of military personnel and secret police, if they wanted to bolster security at airports, they could bolster security at airports. >> i don't want to tread on the toes of my colleagues but i suspect they will say you can have all the security alike but if some go bad, you're in a worse situation than nothing at all. >> paul, should it be that complicated to protect the back end of the planes, the ground crews who have access to them? >> if you have an insider at the airport that's a holy grail for a terrorist group, isis and sinai has a track record of recruiting insiders inside egyptian military, inside the
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egyptian police and carried out an attack in cairo in 2014 where a senior police colonel gave them insider information. they have that track record. it is plausible they did manage to recruit somebody at sham el-sheikh and other people at the airports in the middle east and that's reasons why there are new security precautions for airports in the midwest coming into the united states. >> robert, the fact it is said the bomb was placed in the plane prior to take off. if an insider is there, in terms of security where do you go from here? >> anderson, these planes are indefensible. you can take a detonator the size of a pencil and have a device that can bring down an airplane. what do you do about the cleaning staff?
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someone could come in and put this in the side in the overhead compartment, knock down an airplane. what do you do about as paul was saying, what do you do about the police supposed to be guarding it and people that switch loyalties to the islam make state. egypt is a very dangerous place in the middle of an islamic insurgency and i don't know how you defend an ape and cancel flights to cairo and you can't leave with your own luggage. they don't know where the treat is coming from and don't know which airports are secure and which are. >> david, in terms of the investigation, how do you narrow down the details on what sort of device this was, et cetera, unless you find remanence of the device? >> well, there is tale, tale signs disclosed as they put the airplane back together but how it got in there is the biggest
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key of all and the system for that is where it needs to focus and that's where even investigators will focus back there before they know what it is, they don't have to prove it is a bomb to heighten security and reevaluate their protocol of how this get this done but as far as the investigation goes, what happens on site, they will look for the fraction tour point, the first point as which the aircraft cracked. from there look for debris, residue and the smallest bomb if you know where the first fracture point is. >> david, how big of a problem the fact from everything we know publicly at least, egyptian investigators haven't been investigating this as a terrorist incident. there were reports early on they weren't interviewing people at the airport, ground staff at the airport and at least publicly they have not been out in front on this. >> the damage has been done there, anderson, that needs to be done right away. things change. there is videotapes that may or may not be accessible.
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there is a lot of lost information by assuming and we talked before about why they waited to see they kept telling russia and the prime minister why don't we wait and see until the report is done, you can't do that in safety. you react right away. safety is reactive and learn from that and become proactive. in the meantime, you have to take security measures and dial them back if you have to but the fact they didn't do that right up front could be a very damaging to the investigation. >> richard? >> the game changer aspect when it comes to aviation and terrorism and this particular incident is the nature of isis or al qaeda if they were in another scenario. in the past, you had terrorist organizations very much related to a specific area with a specific cause and a specific goal and ambition but this fed rated nature where as you were saying, the chatter going backwards and forwards and the
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words, this is what makes it much more difficult. we are dealing with something we haven't dealt with before on a larger scale with more airports and that's why the tsa announcements tonight with the ten individual airports is so crucial and my guess is what will happen is the u.s. along with a few other countries will go into the airports to actually see whether or not they can remain safe. >> and paul, again, it's not just people in the middle east. you now have foreign fighters, people from europe and the united states have gone there to fight for isis gain experience and can come back to europe and -- >> absolutely right. 6,000 europeans now believed to have gone and fight for in syria and iraq for the variety of groups. 1500 and i'll say that again, 1500 believed to be back in europe now around 200 americans believed to have traveled. president putin said around 7,000 individuals from russia are in the former soviet states have traveled to fight in syria and iraq.
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big threat for russia, as well. isis tonight promising more attacks and more attacks against russia aviation. >> bob, where does it go from here in terms of trying to protect planes in the future? >> we'll have to clean up our airports first of all. minneapolis there was an airport worker that worked for delta airlines, leaves minneapolis, goes to syria and dies but he did work at that airport and what is to stop somebody instead of going to syria carrying the battle to minneapolis. that's what concerns me is our airports, these people are not vetted and if you -- they are not vetted and can get bombs on and it's a real threat and something we need to do to take care of right now. >> bob bear, appreciate it and paul, as well. just ahead tonight as bob bear said more on airport groundworkers, what a cnn investigation reveals about security shortcomings in this country. if you fly, you want to see this. you might think with the screening you see, there is no way for bad guys to get dangerous information on the
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the breaking news tonight a flurry of new developments, a i
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have yoed from isis and syria. data with two flight recorders to conclude a bomb did destroy it. action is from tsa beefing up security. focus on that and short comings especially involving those getting airlines ready to fly. you would think these vulnerabilities would be taken care of a long time ago in the united states and even at the nation's busy east airports last year in atlanta unscreened baggage contained fire articles being smuggled and a senior investigator correspondent reports the reason is simple even if it makes no sense. >> reporter: 54,000 employees at lose orange lose international
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and dozens of doors like these where a badge and a code. the shoes of l.a.'s airport police chief. >> right now what we have in place is protection against the loan wolf scenario. >> when you say lone wolf, a lone wolf that has access. >> that credential employee. >> that guy that walked in with a backpack, mug, we don't know what's in his backpack or mug or what in his heart or head. >> that's correct. >> does it concern you? >> all the time with 54,000 badged employees that work in a large airport like this, there is no way you're going to have the ability to screen every single person that comes to work in the airport. >> reporter: l.a. tries to minimize the risk by maximizing random checks like this one. airport workers never know
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exactly when or where spot checks could occur. employees also face background checks, yearly updates, and a system built around everyone watching out for anyone who might seem suspicious, but chief gannit admits nothing is foolproof. >> as we've been at airports across the country, we have not really seen anything that could prevent what atlanta went through, which was guns being smuggled out of airports. >> no, i agree. i agree. in any airport throughout the united states and here also, there is never a 100% guarantee that somebody couldn't who wanted to do something illegal or wrong couldn't make that happen. >> reporter: what happened in atlanta prompted a reaction at airports across the country and you can see why. these are the guns smuggled on to as many as 20 flights by one delta airline baggage handler. authorities say that baggage handler took the guns to work in
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his backpack which was never screened. the motive, pure profit selling the guns in northeast cities. but atlanta heartsfield-jackson's general manager, miguel testified to a congressional committee the real danger the gun running exposed is the threat of potential terrorism. >> we started to see that people have been recruited to engage in a terrorist act. people from the united states. so now we have a greater insider threat. >> reporter: in the wake of last year's gun smuggling incident. atlanta instituted full airport employee screening. a cnn investigation earlier this year found that only two other major u.s. airports, my miami orlando requires employees to pass through metal detectors like passengers. >> why is the screening only in
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three airports, why not every airport in the country? >> administers say moving toward full employee screening would be too costly and time consuming for these airport workers to wait in line like you and me. >> wouldn't everyone be safer, though, if every airport had this kind of screening? >> you would think. the tsa studied this and says no and did a full review following the case and concluded full screening of airport employees nationwide would not lower the overall risk to the public but what they did do is announce for frequent background checks for the workers every two years and for airport workers, they will face increases in random screenings that do take place but again, day to day, anderson, a badge is all you need to get into work at most airports. >> drew, appreciate the reporting, thank you. just ahead, more breaking news, ben carson facing questioning about his passes and what he has said and written about it. he spoke with reporters and
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breaking news on the campaign trail. we saw a new ben carson, a side rarely people have seen before. dr. carson hit back hard when questioned again about claims he made about his pass including he was offered a full scholarship to west point when in high school. >> they said you would be a tremendous addition to the military and we can get you into west point with a full scholarship and i simply said i want to be a doctor. i really appreciate it. i'm very flattered. they had been looking through everything, they have been talking to everybody i've every known or seen. there has got to be a scandal or a nurse he's having affair with or something. they are getting desperate. so next week it will be my
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kindergarten teacher that said i peed in my pants. >> this came before his campaign eventment he's expected to speak to the black republican caucus of south florida, part of the out reach to win the support of african americans. so let's talk about, it does seem like a different ben carson up there tonight pushing back hard on these reports regarding his scholarship offer to west point and history as a kid. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. this is a sight of ben carson we haven't seen on the campaign trail before with much more combative and aggressive than we've seen him in the past. it's very clear all of this was scrutiny over his past record is getting under his skin. he's forceful and pushing back against reports. he seems exasperated he had to be standing there addressing repeated questions about past
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insurance de incidents of violence but this report about west point and he really did, though, reveal a hint of something that could be important. he has not given the names of any victims on this violence, he said perhaps sometime soon he might be putting someone forward potentially one of those victims to speak in his words he said so that the media can eat them up so certainly will be interesting that's what we'll be watching. >> he also went after reporters for their vetting of president obama before he was elected. >> reporter: that's right. he's trying to redirect spotlight and focus on him and scrutiny to the media saying this should be about the media. they are trying to turn the image calling it a winch hunt and he did go after reporters saying when barack obama ran for president, he believes he was not held to similar scrutiny. here is what he said just moments ago. >> why are you not interested in that? let me ask that. can somebody tell me why?
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i'm asking you why it's so. no, no, no, don't. i don't change it. i'm asking you, will someone -- will someone tell me, please, why you have not investigated that? you're saying that something that happened with the words of scholarship was offered is a big deal but president of the united states, his academc record not being sealed, tell me -- tell me how, tell me how there is e k f equivalence here. tell me how there is equivalence there? tell me somebody, please? >> so he also went on to kind of raise additional questions he thinks reporters should have asked then senator obama running calling into question characters from his own past, and anderson, carson really made a specific prediction. he said he thinks this all will
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help him and help. >> all right. thank you. more on the claims dr. carson made about violence as a teenager. he said he once tried to stab a friend that it was a critical moment in his life and portrays the incident as a transformative moment, turning point where he left his rage behind. the problem is cnn hasn't been able to find anyone in his past that remembered him that way. this morning on "new day" dr. carson slammed the reporting. >> this say bunch of lies. this is a bunch of lies. attempting to say i'm lying about my history is pathetic. what the media does is tries to get you distracted with this stuff so that you don't talk about the things that are important. >> cnn's mave rusten did the reporting. first time you reported on this program.
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take us through what you found. >> i have to point out that dr. carson mischaracterized your story, which you can read at cnn.com. but what we set out to do was really to explore this very informative part of his life. he's talked a lot about these incidents of violence that he said occurred when he was a teenager, you know, more than 50 years ago. the stabbing attempted stabbing incident hitting someone over the head with a lock, bashing people with bats and bricks and, you know, rocks and so we just felt it was really important to go out there and talk to people who knew him about that time in his life, about this transformation that had taken place and we certainly were expecting to talk to eyewitnesss to these incidents, people who were victims of these incidents and it asked the campaign for help in finding some of these people. the campaign would not cooperate and we called many, many
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classmates in detroit, my colleague scott glover went to detroit to talk to neighbors. we talked to neighbors, elementary friends, high school friends, none of them could recall incidents of violence and said that image of dr. carson he's portrayed himself as in his book was really unrecognizable to them. he was, you know, a smart, calms mom. we still are looking for people to talk about these things and the carson campaign has hinted that perhaps some of these people will come forward. >> we heard carson saying that the reporting is a bunch of lies. is there -- i mean, parts of it he is specifically taking issue with? >> i think he's taking issue with the idea that, you know, that he said to us why would you have been able to find any of these people that were involved in these violent episodes in my youth unless i told you who they
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were, which i find curious because i think if you're going around the neighborhood with -- hitting people with bricks and bats then people are going to hear about that especially in a close knit neighborhood like the one he grew up in. so he's saying that we haven't talked to enough people or the right people and once again, i would say that, you know, we went to the campaign, asked them to provide names and friends and acquai acquaintances of dr. carson. we went back with findings and said hey listen, we can't find this bob you talked about in the stabbing incident. we can't find jerry who you said you hit over the head with a lock and for the first time, dr. carson came out and said those were fiction names and that's why the bobs and jerries couldn't remember those incidents. >> joining me now is tara and amanda carpenter, both former
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capitol hill communications directors, the fact we're talking about whether one of the leading presidential candidates tried to stab a friend and the candidate insists he did, what do you make of this? is this much to do about nothing? does it matter? >> it is an essential part of his biography and what puzzles me most is not that reporters are asking questions but he seems baffled reporters are asking questions. ben carson made a decision not to work with a cnn reporter on this story. he's paying a price and an unfair price because the story wrote later that questioned another element was not accurate. it was not fair but it's all sort of being conflicted together and blowing up in his face and you saw the intense reaction. listen, he's a first tier presidential candidate who is in the lead. his campaign needs to know how to answer questions both fair and unfair and the amount of time it took for him to correct the political story, so many people were questioning what was
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going online today. he's not going to survive as a front runner if he can't answer questions. >> tara? >> i agree with amanda. i think there are several narratives going on here. the biggest being that when you are a top tier candidate, you are going to be held to a different level of scrutiny and you have to be prepared for that. this is the big leagues and today and what happened today and the carson campaign's reaction to it shows they are not ready for prime time and they have been relying on the platitudes of attacking the media and being a victim of bias reporting, which listen, that's fair as conservatives we know there is a double standard. we've gone through it all the time. this isn't new and plays great to the gop primary base and yes, that's allowed cover for anything that may have been legitimate or any of the questionable details that ben carson has kind of changed with these stories. this isn't the first story. remember, there was questions
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about the popeyes robbery when he brought up the incident about he was part of an armed robbery and told them in a pop eye's organization and there was no record of that according to police. his answer during the debate about mannatech, he said he had no affiliation with them. turned out he did. he taped testimonials and gave paid speeches. they muddled up that response and had to backtrack and backtrack and now you have this. if you need to have message discipline and the you are in the right then you have to have message discipline. you can't keep giving the media an opening to sit there and question your credibility and then turn it around and blame it on the media for questioning credibility when you open that door. >> amanda, do you think this actually hurts dr. carson? so far this campaign, i mean, has hurd donald trump the other leading outside candidate or has and why should we think this would be any different with ben carson? >> he scored a benefit because
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they got it so wrong whether he was offered a scholarship or not. a lot of people rallied by his side. i'm worried about that because i think that story damages the good questions other people are asking that need to be asked and he does need to be vetted. all this comes from a problem that we see again and again where he is not precise with his language. >> exactly. >> this is when it comes to policy proposals and biography. you have to be very precise and when you're in precise with your language, people will interpret it different ways. this is something we keep seeing and he has to find a way to correct it. >> it's also interesting, amanda because some people say why do you focus so much on the biography. because he is an outsider candidate and doesn't have a political record of votes really what he has is his biography. that's what he's been running on and obviously his issues.
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so that's why, you know, that's really all there is to look at. we got to leave it there. amanda, good to have you on. always good to have you. just ahead, ben carson's efforts to win votes with a hip-hop ad. we'll hear from some of the voters the new ad is aimed at. we believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can seek to outperform. that's the power of active management. (patrick 2) pretty great.ke to be the boss of you? (patrick 1) how about a 10% raise? (patrick 2) how about 20? (patrick 1) how about done? (patrick 2) that's the kind of control i like... ...and that's what they give me at national car rental. i can choose any car in the aisle i want- without having to ask anyone. who better to be the boss of you... (patrick 1)than me. i mean, you...us.
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tonight the breaking news republican presidential candidate ben carson getting tough with reporters. this week he rolled out a new campaign ad featuring the rap artist aspiring mogul. take a look. ♪ ♪ support ben carson, for our next president to be awesome ♪ ♪ america became a great nation early on not because it was flooded with politician but flooded with people who understood the value of personal responsibility, hard work, creativity, invasion and that's what will get us on the right track now ♪ >> fair to say the ad aimed at young african americans is getting mixed reviews. here is gary tuchman. >> reporter: on the campus of
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the moore house campus, we're asking students and employees from moore house and spelman to do listening to ben carson's radio ad. let's listen to the radio spot together. the carson campaign is released the ad in several cities targeting younger african american voters. ♪ ben carson 2016 and support ben carson for our next president and be awesome ♪ >> reporter: there is a prevalent consensus here. what did you think of the music first of all? >> i thought it was a little corny. definitely a little corny. >> reporter: do you like the mus music? >> it's corny but funny. ♪ if we get america back on track we got to vote ben carson ♪ >> reporter: corny doesn't mean it won't work. she likes hillary clinton as of now but. >> reporter: does it make you think i'll take another look at you ben carson, is that enough
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to do it hearing that? >> yeah, it's catching. i'll go and look him up after that. funny. who is this guy? >> reporter: others feel it doesn't work at all. >> it is stereotypical like we all listen to rap. >> reporter: this will radio spot make you do more investigating? >> no. >> reporter: how come? >> i would like to hear him say positive things when he's in a debate and things i feel is well thought out in a debate. radio ad isn't going to change my opinion. >> reporter: this moore house student says bernie sanders or hillary clinton for him. maybe i'll consider voting for him after a commercial like this? >> no, not at all. >> reporter: another person not so sure is the candidate himself. >> there are people in the campaign who felt that was a good way to do things and they are entitled to their opinions. >> reporter: what about you?
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>> you know, i support, you know, them in doing that but, you know, i probably would have taken a little different approach. >> reporter: but even so. >> i'm ben carson and i approve this message. >> has dr. carson specifically corded african americans during campaign spots? >> he has anderson this past august he was at the one of the most famous soul food restaurants in the united states, sylvia's in harlem in new york cities and he went there for two hours. he ate. he talked and got positive reviews and not so positive reviews. election day is one year away from this sunday, november 8th, 2016. republicans know they are not going to get a hefty percentage of african american votes but would like a higher percentage than 2012 and that's a reason for the radio ad buy. >> anderson? >> thanks. nbc under fire protesters calling on the network to dump
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trump. the network, though, not backing down the show it seems will go on. it's a reunion of sorts for trump in the network over the summer you'll remember the former "apprentice" star and nbc parted ways. >> hi, i'm donald trump and i'll host snl. >> and the ratings are going to be -- huge. >> reporter: that may be true but his appearance as host is heartily without controversy. all of it dating back to when donald trump first announced his run for the white house when he made what many called derogatory comments about mexican immigrants suggesting they are drug dealers, criminals and rapists. already at least 340,000 people have signed petitions to get trump bumped from "saturday night live." the protests aren't on the street outside the new york studios, they can be heard in the nation's capital, too, where
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one representative demanded trump lose his privilege to appear on tv until he apologizes. >> his statements should disqualify him from being able to take the stage and speak to the american people as if what he said was no big deal. >> reporter: the national hispanic leader ship agenda sent a letter to the network that reads allowing trump to host "snl" will legitimize. inviting a host that believes the largest ethnic group in the country consists of rapist and criminals with lots of problems is not only wrong but makes nbc universal come police sit in demeaning an entire community. still, nbc isn't backing down, telling cnn no comment. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: this won't be the first time trump has hosted the sketch show. he first did so back in 2004
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often making fun of himself. >> this place looks like museum. >> reporter: he's been a target forecast members. >> good evening. i'm donald trump. of course, most of you know who i am already because i'm rich and i'm hand some. >> mr. trump, if you can step on your mark. [ laughter ] >> reporter: meanwhile, a latino group is offering to pay $5,000 to anyone who disrupts donald trump's appearance. the group says the person must be heard saying deport racism or trump is a racist during the show. and get his or her name in the media. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> a lot to discuss. joining me two cnn political commentators, jeffrey lord and political day rector and me maria cardona.
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does it seem odd trump's appearance is where some activists are drawing the line. why is this hour and a half of "snl" suddenly the breaking point? >> well, i think part of it is, anderson, that being invited to do "snl" as you know is a huge platform. it is reserved for i think the highest form of celebrity for the highest form of people of the moment and so to the latino community, it seems like slap in the face for "snl" to give this platform of an hour and a half to somebody that's been so offensive to latinos in this country and very curious to see that five months ago, nbc put out a statement right after donald trump made those very offensive remarks saying that those remarks slashing ties with donald trump and saying those remarks did not comport or represent the values of the principals from nbc.
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what happened with those five months. they realize he's still a ratings juggernaut and at the top of the polls and perhaps they didn't think. so their values and principles went out the window. >> jeff, does it seem a little odd that nbc on one hand wants their cake and eats it too severing ties about illegal immigrants and asking them to host snl now? >> well, i think they have had all this time five months or whatever it is to understand that the american people think that donald trump had a point about illegal immigration, which was the point he was making. not about immigration. donald trump is the son and grandson of immigrants so it's not about immigration. it's about illegal immigration. i look at this and i see this as just more race card playing. the american left, democratic party and i've written about this extensively has a long, long history right from get-go of playing the race card. the party that's on record in the platform supporting slavery,
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segregation, lynching, the ku klux klan and japanese americans because of skin color. now it's illegal immigration. the issues have judging people by skin color, dividing people by skin color and that's what is going on here and there is nothing more to it than that. >> you're not saying the democratic party was the only party involved with the -- >> thank you. >> segregation with turning japanese citizens during the war? >> well, i've read their platforms and fail to find this in any republican platform. i mean, if there is one out there, that's fine but i've gone through the platforms. you know, i'll send you the wall street journal article. they wrote extensively on this. >> how does this relate to donald trump on "saturday night live"? >> sure, sure, because it's race card playing. what i'm suggesting to you is this is what the democratic party does and has always done. it plays the race card. the race is shifted.
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it used to be southern whites. african americans, hispanics -- >> jeffrey, this has nothing to do with the democratic party. i can make you a list of latinos that are republicans that were offended and what you're talking about under scores the fact you don't understand and the people that support donald trump do not understand how offensive his comments were to the fastest and now largest majority in this country. but if you keep talking about that and -- >> wait, wait, wait -- >> you'll probably not like what i'm about to say, i actually think donald trump can very well be the republican nominee and he will never get to the cas casa blanca with that. >> does that make a distinction? >> no. here is where the fundamental
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misunderstanding of republicans in general, that latino community feels a kinship with undocumented immigrants that have been here for years working hard, contributing to this country and wanting above anything else to be americans. and most latinos this in this country agree they should have that chance to become legal and most latinos in this country know somebody or have somebody in their family who are undocumented. so they take it personally. and that is a fundamental misunderstanding of the republicans -- >> the objective -- >> guys, we are simply literally out of time. i got to go to commercial break. jeffrey, we'll have you back, maria, as well. thank you we'll be right back. >> thank you, anderson. >> okay. here at td ameritrade, they love innovating.
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