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cornerstone of this story and many other stories that have to do with the lessening of the first amendment or the oppression of it. and whenever that happens in any society i think the citizenry needs to stand up. >> amen to that. the film is trumbo. it's a fantastic film. bryan cranston, thank you so much for joining us. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. turning you over to "the situation room." happening now, terror hunt. u.s. officials are 99.9% certain that a bomb brought down that russian airliner over sinai. the search is now on for who planted the bomb, who built it and who ordered it. i'll speak with the british foreign secretary. security lapses as precautions are stepped up at middle east airports. are employees and contractors being properly vetted? does isis have insiders at other airports? missile misfire.
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millions along the pacific coach are shocked to see a missile streak overahead. should the military announce the test of a nuclear capable missile? was it a public relations blunder? and bling or bust. donald trump draws new ratings as he dances to a new video on "saturday night live." but will the former reality show's return to tv help or hurt his presidential campaign? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." u.s. and british officials are now convinced that russia's metrojet airliner was brought down by a bomb planted by isis or its sinai affiliate. we're learning that crucial information was actually provided by israel. and now intelligence agencies are also scrambling to learn how and where a device could have brought the plane down killing all 224 people onboard. the working assumption is that isis had help from an insider at
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egypt's sharm el sheikh airport. that's raising serious concerns about the security at other airports abroad and right here at home as well. i'll speak with the visiting british foreign secretary phillip hammon, he's joining us live this hour and our analysts, guests will have full coverage of all the day's top stories. let's get right to the metrojet airliner investigation and the growing conviction that the plane was brought down by an explosive device. let's begin with brian todd. brian, what are you learning? >> wolf, tonight we're getting more indications that this may have been an inside job at sharm el sheikh airport. investigators are poring over evidence as we speak. and there are new concerns that if this was a bomb, planes bound for the u.s. are also vulnerable. tonight a u.s. official tells cnn it's, quote, 99% 9% certain a bomb was placed on the metro jet plane. and some of the critical clues came israeli intelligence. british foreign secretary phillip hamman says if it was a bomb, there are serious security problems at sharm el sheikh
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airport where the plane departed. house intelligence member adam schiff who's received classified briefings on the investigation says isis, which claimed responsibility may have gotten to someone at the airport. >> isis may have concluded that the best way to defeat airport defenses is not to go through them but to go around them with the help of somebody on the inside. >> reporter: former top israeli airport security official goes further pointing to certain areas of that airport that he says investigators need to focus on. >> the center of attention will be on what happens on the ground at the airport, meaning on the ramp since the aircraft landed at sharm el sheikh until the time it took off. look at who had access to the aircraft, identify any suspicious involvement around the aircraft. >> reporter: an egyptian official calls allegations of poor security at the sharm el sheikh airport, quote, unsubstantiated and false. egypt's top investigator now says the plane's cockpit voice
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recorder captured an important sound. >> a noise was heard in the last second of the cvr recording. >> reporter: he didn't say what the sound was. european investigators told cnn affiliate france the voice recorder indicates an explosion. experts say the sound of a bomb would stand out on the recorder. >> they have a very, very distinctive sound pattern. and that's what they'll be looking for. >> reporter: a key concern tonight that isis if it's really behind this will try to replicate it. >> the fact that this attack was a successful from the terrorist point of view would certainly encourage terrorists continue pursuing this avenue and trying to look at other opportunities possibly in other airports. keep in mind there are many airports around the world that fly to the united states. and the loyalty of local
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employees at airport is in many cases questionable. >> u.s. officials are so concerned about that that they're enhancing screening for items on planes coming into the united states from a number of different airports worldwide. a source with knowledge of that tells cnn that three of those airports are the ones in ahman, jordan, kuwait city and in cairo, wolf. >> speaking of cairo, are egyptian officials basically in denial about the likelihood that this was a bomb? >> many experts we talk to, wolf, believe that the egyptians are in denial at this point. that they don't want to acknowledge at the moment that it's a bomb because of the hit it will take on their tourism industry. now, for their part the egyptians say that all scenarios right now are on the table. they also deny that security is lax at sharm el sheikh airport. but experts are telling us that they point out this one thing that you have to remember, 16 years after the fact egyptian officials are still saying about that egypt air crash in 1999 that killed 217 people that it was a mechanical failure when the probable cause as released
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by u.s. investigators, ntsb and others that that was a suicide by the first officer of that plane, 16 years later the egyptians are still denying that. >> that's one of the reasons there's some soreness in that u.s.-egyptian relationship when it comes to aviation. >> yes. >> brian, thanks very much. the increasing likelihood that a bomb brought down the russian airliner has very worrisome implications for international air travel. let's go to our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. jim, you've been reporting on the intelligence sharing in this international investigation. have russians come any closer to admitting it was a terrorist attack? >> as you note the u.s. did share some of the crucial intelligence that indicated questions about whether this was a terror attack, this is intelligence, intercepted communications by the israelis shared with the russians. you did have today the russian prime minister dmitri medvedev, saying all flights to egypt have been suspended since friday.
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that's further than any other russian official has gone but not saying anything definitively. keep in mind as well that the u.s. has offered further help to the russians, the fbi offering its services and saying they could be particularly helpful looking at this recording from the cockpit voice recorder, that sound that was heard on that tape in determining what that sound is. >> a top egyptian isis affiliate terrorist as you know, jim, was just killed. does this have any direct significance to this current investigation? >> no direct tie to the investigation. it could be relevant. this is a group that was known as ansar, bait al maktis since become known as isis in the sinai. it started a few years ago after the egyptian revolution. but it shows you that this is an ongoing fight for the egyptians in sinai. this is a group that's shown great capability including in bomb making although no capabilities so far into placing a bomb on a plane. but they have this capability. they have attacked pipelines. they've even attacked israeli
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soldiers, sinai of course bordering with israel in the south and in the east there as well. it's a very capable group. this is part of an ongoing fight for the egyptians. any operation that takes down a leader in this group certainly significant, but no direct tie to the bombing so far. >> jim sciutto reporting for us. thank you. joining us now is the british foreign secretary phillip h hammond, one of the first to link that to terrorism. thank you very much for joining us. >> pleasure. >> are you convinced this was a bomb? >> we think it was more likely than not an explosive device on the aircraft. obviously we won't know absolutely for certain until the final analysis of the wreckage has taken place. that could take some time. but in the meantime we acted on a precautionary basis using all the evidence available to us. and we suspended all british flights to sharm el sheikh last wednesday. >> but not to cairo. >> not to cairo. this is specific to sharm el sheikh airport. if there was a bomb on that plane, then that represents a failure of security at sharm el
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sheikh. >> specifically because the russians suspended all air traffic not only to sharm el sheikh but cairo as well. >> yeah. well, we took the decision that it's sharm el sheikh we need to focus on. it's sharm el sheikh where we have a very significant tourist traffic from the uk. so that was the principle focus of our concern. >> if it was a bomb, do you believe it was isis? >> isis have claimed that they are responsible for bringing down this aircraft. we've seen a history of isis claims tending to be born out by facts. there's got to be a high probability that isis was involved. that doesn't mean that it was a directed attack from isis headquarters in syria. it may have been an individual who was inspired by isis who was self-radicalized by looking at isis propaganda and was acting in the name of isis without necessarily being directed. >> the so-called lone wolf theory. some lone wolf, an individual working at say sharm el sheikh airport could have built that bomb and planted the bomb on
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that plane? >> that is a possibility. >> is that the working assumption you're working on? or was this more of a coordinated organized event by isis maybe not in raqqa in syria where they're headquartered but isis in sinai? that other group affiliated loosely with isis. >> if it's a bomb, there's both possibilities equally valid. we have to investigate and understand both. >> and the assumption was that because u.s. officials have spoken about chatter that they've picked up various ways, was the chatter done that was significant in this particular case before the explosion and aft after, or just after? >> i don't know if i'm as fastidious as u.s. officials, but we never talk about intelligence, there are clearly a variety of intelligence sources around this material as well as open source material. >> are you sharing this intelligence with russia? >> we're sharing what we can.
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but some intelligence is sensitive and clearly we don't share the most sensitive intelligence. what people like the russians, the egyptians will very clearly be able to see is the conclusions that we have reached. they know that we would not have made the decision we made on wednesday lightly. we have president sisi visiting london on thursday. clearly that was not a comfort b able decision for us to make. we made it on the basis of the information and i suspect others would have drawn conclusions from the fact we made decisions that we did. >> complaining the u.s. and uk for that matter are not sharing relevant intelligence information with them and that's hindering their investigation. >> well, i don't believe it would be hindering their investigation. we will work closely with them. but they will understand as everybody in the intelligence community understands that there is some intelligence that can be shared and some that cannot.
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>> this is a war against isis right now. and britain is involved, is that right? >> it is, yeah. >> how are you involved? what is britain doing in this war? we know the u.s. has air strikes. the russians have troops and air strikes. what specifically is britain doing? i know you're here to meet with secretary of state kerry to talk about the british role in all of this. what is that role? >> well, we're active in iraq. we've carried out more than 1,500 combat sorties over iraq and syria. we're flying over syria, combat reconnaissance. we're not carrying out strikes in syria at the moment. we've carried out more than 300 strikes in iraq. we have some capabilities which add significantly to the coalition, some specific capabilities. we're flying predators. we're flying surveillance aircraft and fast jets carrying out air strikes in iraq. >> in iraq, not in syria. why is it okay to launch against in iraq and not in syria?
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>> because the legal basis is different. in iraq we're operating at the request of the iraqi government. to move into syria would require a different set of permissions for us. and we've made clear that when we're confident that we have a consensus in our house of commons we will get authority from the house of commons and we will extend our activity into syria. >> is the british government okay with what russia is now doing in syria? >> no, we're not okay with it. if russia wants to join in the attack on isil, we're very happy about that. but so far 85% of russian air strikes in syria have been against non-isil targets, whatever the russians say. what they are doing in practice is bolstering the regime of bashar al assad. and that is likely to polarize the situation in syria and strengthen isil, not weaken it. >> what would the isis motive have been in destroying this aircraft, this airliner with 224 people on board, tourists,
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russians mostly just going on vacation to sharm el sheikh? what would have been their motive in destroying this plane? >> well, the russians have although they're not carrying out many strikes against isil in syria, they have been very tough in their rhetoric against isil. and i think most analysts accept that the russians have a general intention to go after isil. where we differ with the russians is that they believe the way to do that is first of all to strengthen the syrian regime, bolster its position and then work with it against isil. that is not our assessment of the best way to proceed. but i can understand why the russian intervention would have prompted isil to want to strike back against russia. >> wouldn't isis appreciate that putin -- russian president vladimir putin is a tough guy. they go after russia, he's going to go after them with all his strength? >> well, i'm not sure. there's some indications that
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the russians really are wary of getting drawn in too deeply into this conflict. they remember the afghanistan experience. they have 13 million muslims living in the russian federation, most sunnis. president putin will want to bolster russia's position. he'll want to make sure that russia is a big player in any eventual settlement of the syria crisis. but he will also, i think, be wary of getting drawn in too deep. and this air crash if it turns out to have been an isil planted bomb is a nightmare for him. >> so bottom line high probability it was a bomb. high probability it was a bomb planted by isis? >> that's the way it looks at the moment. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> standby, we're going to have much more coming up. we're getting new information. we'll take a quick break. much more right after this.
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back to our top story. we just heard from the british foreign secretary in his own words saying that there is a high probability isis is directly involved in the downing, the bombing of that russian jetliner that killed all 224 people onboard. let's bring in our cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. also our aviation analyst peter goelz former ntsb managing director, national security
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analyst peter burgen and richard quest. richard, authorities are investigating airport workers at sharm el sheikh. they're going through closed circuit video cameras, evidence that someone may have put something onboard. is there a feeling that whoever did this could still be there at that airport doing the same thing on the same job? >> we don't know, wolf. they're looking at to see how it happened first of all. they haven't quite worked out as we understand it what happened or at least how this allegedly got onboard the plane. what is very interesting of course is that the egyptians have said today almost angerly and defiantly that the allegations that somehow sharm el sheikh airport is rife with security breaches and on security availabilities not true. that begs the question that clearly something did go wrong. we've had a warning today speaking to cnn sir tim clark,
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who is the president of emirates airlines of dubai, sir tim has said there are probably many airports around the world where there are vulnerabilities and i shall issues of safety and security that have to be looked at by governments and airlines. >> you heard the british foreign secretary say it was possibe this was an individual, a lone wo as they say could have built that bomb and planted that bomb on that airliner. fist time i heard someone suggest maybe an individual did that let's say inspired by isis. >> i think he's probably floating a balloon there more than that. obviously it is a possibility. but, you know, getting the bomb, making the bomb, getting the sort of -- it wasn't -- we believe it doesn't have to be very sophisticated to do what it did. but it still has to require a certain level of knowledge. so, yes, it could have been, but en that doesn't really explain
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all the chatter that people have been talking about afterwards that this was supposedly the intelligence that israel picked up and all these other people. so the truth of the matter is, and this is the part we don't know. >> that's a good point. peter, what is the screening process for airports here in the united states, for baggage handlers, caterers, other who is have access to these kinds of commercial airliners? >> well, when they say this event could be a game changer if it's a bomb, that's what they're referencing. these workers, the thousands of workers behind the security lines have minimal background checks at the beginning. some of them the turnover rate is 100 to 200%. so they don't have time to do the kind of in depth background checks to keep the work moving. so they do temporary checks. and these workers have access to secure areas. it's going to be a real challenge if this bomb is proven
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out. >> so it's a game changer potentially right now? >> that's why people are calling it a game changer. it will change how the back of the house is run at airports. >> because there's always been that vulnerability. does it sound like this could have been, peter, a lone individual who could have done this? built a bomb that could have blown up a plane like that 23 minutes into that flight at 30,000 feet? >> i doubt it. based on previous bombings of aircraft or attempted bombings, i mean, usually it's an organization with multiple people involved in the planning. but to go to peter goelz's point, the inspector general of the department of homeland security found 73% of people in the united states just six months ago working in a database of possible terrorists. which by the way tsa has not denied. we're not immune here in the united states. obviously we have a much better system, but look at airports around the world. british airway haves had people plotting with al qaeda to get a bomb on an american-bound plane.
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i think that's why it is a game changer because this vulnerability has clearly baked into a lot of airports around the world. >> and the nightmare scenario, and you're a former fbi assistant director, tom, is that maybe someone wasn't necessarily politically or religiously inspired by isis or another terror group, but they may have been bought off with money. they potentially could have been threatened, family members could have been endangered. that's a nightmare scenario as well. >> oh, it's true. and it could be just garden variety psychotic that wants to, you know, do something famous and blow an aircraft up. we have all kinds of possibilities. and i think in terms of it being a game changing event, even if it's proven to be a bomb, i don't know if we're ready in this country to spend the tens of millions of dollars necessary to establish security measures for employees arriving. and we have the busiest airports in the world here atlanta hartsfield, chicago o'hare, are we ready to put magnet opometers
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where thousands of employees are going to go through the same checks passengers go through? i haven't heard anybody propose it. >> if you're a caterer or baggage handler, you don't have to go through a metal detector? >> no. most of the airports, no. >> is that okay with you? >> well, it's okay if they've done an in-depth background check on it. but the problem is these are minimum wage jobs. they turnover. and they don't have the time to complete the in-depth background checks so they do a minimal check. and as peter pointed out, 73 people on a watch list. >> and food carts are prepared offsite. they're not even done at the airports. somebody could load something into any of those carts that are brought to the airport, loaded on the aircraft, put in the galley before the flight takes off. they're not checked. >> we've got to do some re-examination i assume they are doing that as we speak. standby, much more coming up. we're getting more information as well. also coming up, millions of americans are stunned by a flash of light along the pacific coast. the u.s. navy is now explaining
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donald trump is campaigning in illinois tonight, but a new poll may suggest he needs to pay more attention to key early state in next year's primaries. let's go to dana bash joining us from wisconsin. what's the latest, dana? >> reporter: the latest is that 24 hours from now ben carson and donald trump are going to share center stage at yet another republican debate, but wolf, it's really clear right now that the two of them are facing off for the top spot, at least at this moment in time. and then there's everyone else. ben carson is surging in south carolina now running neck and neck with donald trump. >> it's not particularly getting under my skin --
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>> reporter: carson is on the rise even as questions persist about his life story defined by tales of personal struggle and redemption central to his appeal. >> you're asking me about something that happened fifty years ago. you expect me to have the details on that, forget about it. it's not going to happen. >> reporter: carson says he's a victim of unfair media bias. frustrated over cnn's reporting that found no one from carson's youth willing to corroborate his story of stabbing a boy only saved by his belt buckle. or "the wall street journal" reporting of inconsistencies in his autobiography. a story designed to paint himself as the most ethical student. >> it's just stupid. if our media is no better at investigating than that, it's sick. >> reporter: carson declines to identify individuals involved in his violent outbursts, but today he did point to a 1997 story featuring his mother sonja who told parade magazine about the attempted stabbing and said, oh,
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that really happened. carson's top adviser sounds a different note from the candidate telling cnn the questions are fair game. >> i think it's a very good thing that dr. carson is being vetted, that dr. carson is being tested. >> is he kidding? >> reporter: and other candidates listening to carson complain say welcome to the big leagues. >> i don't have a whole lot of sympathy. he should answer the questions forthrightly and directly. >> reporter: marco rubio was also facing scrutiny for his past using a florida republican party american express card for personal expenses. but his campaign is confronting it with a different tactic, releasing the statements this weekend insisting there's no there-there. donald trump, a fellow outsider virtually tied with carson in key early states has the most to gain by the controversy and stoked it on cnn's "state of the union". >> ben wrote a book, and the book is a tough book because, you know, he talk about he has pathological disease. that's a serious statement when you say you have pathological disease because i understand it
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you can't really cure it. but he said he had pathological disease. >> reporter: carson did call his temper as a child pathological but not a disease. and carson isn't the only first time embellishing in the past. here's what donald trump told us this summer. >> everybody exaggerates. i guess i do a little bit. i want to say good things. >> reporter: and another reminder that this is such a topsy turvy election year. the guy who was supposed to be the outsider who was doing really well in the polls and is now out of the race, this state's governor scott walker. wolf, he just had the first appearance on the campaign trail since he did drop out. he appeared with jeb bush moments ago talking about education. it's just a reminder of what a wild election year it is that the debate will happen in his home state and he will not be on the stage, wolf. >> is he endorsing jeb bush? >> reporter: he is not endorsing jeb bush. he's also going to help marco
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rubio out with raising some money here. he's staying out of the race, but he wanted to come together with jeb bush to talk about their mutual interests in charter schools and sort of alternative education. >> dana, standby. i want to bring in s.c. cupp, our cnn political commentator. is there any real damage to dr. ben carson's campaign as a result of these accusations that are going out there? >> yes and no. we have to always remember not to underestimate the willingness of voters every election cycle to put their hands over their ears and say, la la la la la, i don't care. i mean, hillary clinton has on more than one occasion exaggerated if not lied about parts of her biography. she claimed she was named after sir ed mund hillary of course he did that after she was born, taking fire in bosnia. obviously the power of her personality makes it so her supporters don't care. and i don't think carson
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supporters are going to really care if he is exaggeated parts of his biography. that said, because he doesn't have a legislative record for us to pore over, his life story is everything. it is his campaign. so if all of these rich stories about redemption, about, you know, a tough upbringing, about these moments of heroism and courage, if it turns out some of them are fabricated or even just exaggerated, i would imagine that most voters, not his die hard supporters, but most voters would be really concerned and turned off by the fact that he had exaggerated about, you know, the most colorful aspects of his life. >> but, you know, dana, what is beyond any doubt at all is he's got an amazing story to tell coming from a single family home in detroit, very, very poor, going through high school being the top rotc cadet in high school then getting that full
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scholarship to yale, the only university he applied. and then becoming one of the great preeminent pediatric surgeons at john hopkins university. that in and of itself is an amazing story that he has not embellished on. that is an amazing story to begin with. >> reporter: no question about it. he is -- he does have an american story. a story that really can only happen in this country. and as s.c. was saying, that is absolutely not just part of his appeal, that is the main thrust of his appeal. but when you kind of get down to the specifics of some of the anecdotes that he talks about in his book and elsewhere, particularly in the speeches he gives, that is what appeals to the evangelical community especially in key states like iowa and south carolina where that vote is very important. the idea of redemption, the idea that he had a terrible temper as a kid and he found a way to overcome that, that beyond just
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the kind of rags to riches story has a very special appeal for the voters that he's trying to reach out to. >> all right. guys, standby. we have more to discuss including donald trump and his performance on "saturday night live." the impact of that. much more right after this. (vo) what's your dog food's first ingredient? corn? wheat? in new purina one true instinct grain free, real chicken is always #1. no corn, wheat or soy. support your active dog's whole body health with purina one. glad i could help you plan for your retirement. alright, kelly and promise me that you'll try that taco place on south street. and we have portfolio planning tools to help you manage your ira. yeah, you're old 401k give me your phone. the rollover consultants give you step-by-step help. no set-up fees. use your potion. sorry, not you. my pleasure. goodnight, tim. for all the confidence you need. who's tim? td ameritrade. you got this.
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we're following developments ahead of the presidential race ahead of tomorrow's fourth republican presidential debate. donald trump certainly helped
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nbc's "saturday night live" chock up its best ratings in three and a half years. it took part in several sketches including this one with his daughter ivanka. >> how is the white house? how is everything going? and how are the renovations doing? >> actually, not surprisingly, we are ahead of schedule and under budget. the private swimming pool and cabanas are already completed. and now if you'll excuse me, today we are covering the washington monument in gold mirrored glass. >> wow, that's going to look so elegant. >> a beautiful hotel. >> mr. president, the president of mexico is here to see you. >> that's great. send him in. >> donald. >> enrique. >> i brought you the check for the wall. >> oh, thank you. this is far too much money. >> no, insist. consider it's for doubting you as history shows us nothing brings two countries together like a wall. >> although trump's appearance
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was certainly a ratings hit, reviews of his performance are better -- let's say some are better than lukewarm. one of the most talked about moments is his spoof of drake's music video "hot line bling." ♪ ♪ you used to call me on the cell phone ♪ ♪ call me on the cell phone >> i thought it was very, very funny. we're back with dana bash. s.c. cupp, ryan lizza is joining us right now. is it going to help or hurt his presidential campaign? >> i think every time donald trump is in front of a camera it helps him.
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that's been the history so far. the more the media focuses on him the better he does in the polls. ratings for "snl" were very high. it was promoted -- >> as he predicted. >> and this thing's been all over the place. i don't know whether to laugh or cry watching these segments. and what's going on in our democracy. but if you ask me the question will this help or hurt him, this will probably help him. >> s.c., i was watching. i had a lot of laugh out loud moments during that hour and a half. >> huh. well, i thought he was great. you know, he showed he can laugh at himself. and i think he really committed to a lot of the characters most of which were by the way him. but i actually thought "snl" writers missed some opportunities to be very funny. >> what would you have wanted? >> i mean, i would have gotten out of politics and made trump really break out of his comfort zone, that drake dancing video was as close as we got to something completely non-trump like. i just would have wanted to see him more sort of fish out of water. i think that's really fun. >> dana, how's it going to play
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out? you're in wisconsin right now. how is it playing out there? >> reporter: well, i haven't heard a lot of talk about it here. but i will tell you i totally agree with ryan. no matter what donald trump does, it's sort of a spectacle and people are going to tune in to it. s.e., i think you didn't watch long enough. you didn't see the laser harp at the end. so i think that was probably the big problem. you should have stayed up until 1:00 in the morning to watch. i do have to say there were parts where i was doing this, i was sort of watching with like -- can i peek between my hands as i'm watching? particularly the fact that ivanka, you know, did that and, you know, as a sort of daughter-dad moment, you sort of have that cringe moment like, dad. showed she had a few of those backstage. >> a wonderful young woman indeed. guys, thanks very much. we are following another story. we now know what's behind
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new questions are being asked tonight after millions of people along the west coast were startled by a mysterious light in the twilight sky. the u.s. navy revealed it was caused by a missile test. brian todd is back here "the situation room" with new information. what are you learning, brian? >> wolf, this was a spectacular-looking bright light that shot across the sky
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saturday night but people as far away as san francisco saw it. check out this picture. this is from photographer abe blare that captured this streak as it appeared over the golden gate bridge near san francisco just after 6:00 local time on saturday. abe blare told me for a moment he thought the west coast was under attack from terrorists. it was that frightening. he saw the streak coming toward him and banked out over the pacific ocean. in southern california people captured it on video. take a listen. >> what is that? >> oh my god! >> that is scary. this is like -- oh my god! it looks like a ufo. oh my gosh! what is going on? >> until it lands -- >> what? >> oh my god, what is going on? >> oh my god. do you see that purple line
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behind it? i think it's like on fire. >> just something about someone who appears to be a teenage e narrating that makes it perfect. there was never any danger to the properublic. this was a trident missile and not armed. navy officials say they test fired it over the pacific and have the ability to destroy it remotely if there was a hazard. they say they did warn airmen and mariners to stay away from certain areas and took care of that safety component. >> a lot of people got a big square from this. shouldn't the u.s. navy warn the public? >> i pose that to officials because 17 because sometimes we get warning of a fly over or something like that in d.c. they complained this was for a moment terrifying and the navy should notify the public before hand. navy officials understand that
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complaint but this is a classified program, top secret. they say because of operational security, they cannot announce these tests before hand. by the way, wolf, they just tested another one of these missiles today. >> sure it was a scary moment for a lot of people on the coast. the u.s. says it's 99.9% certain a bomb brought down the russian airplane killing all on board. the hunt is on for who planted the bomb, who built it and ordered it. how vulnerable are american airports and another top official of a state university resigns after weeks of protest. i'll talk to the head of the naacp.
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happening now, larger terror plot as intelligence officials grow more confident a russian jet was brought down by a bomb, there are rising fears isis may be plotting to strike a u.s. airliner next. stand by for more information on the investigation. airport insecurity, scrambling to protect flights heading to the united states from overseas. tonight, airports in this country may be vulnerable to a terror attack from the inside. racism and resignation, of weeks of protest against bias in the major university, the top official stepped down. i'll ask the head of the naacp if that's enough to change the culture on campus. the snl effect, donald trump's hosting gig drew lots of attention but did bernie sanders
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look alike steal the show? we'll talk about the power of campaign comedy with a major player in the 2016 race. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're "the situation room." tonight, there is growing confidence among the united states and it's key allies that a bomb blew up a russian airliner in a deadly act of terror likely committed by isis. even russia's prime minister publicly accepting a terror attack is a possibility. we're getting new details this hour about the global hunt underway to find the isis killer or killers who may have planted a bomb killing all 224 people on board. as investigators try to determine if an airport worker in egypt was involved, there is also a chilling warning about possible security lapses in this country, gaps that might make it relatively easy for an airport insider to get a bomb on board a
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u.s. plane. i'll ask congressman andre carson what he's learning as a leading member of the house intelligence committee and correspondents and analysts standing by as we cover the news breaking right now. up first, let's go to our chief national security correspondent jim?sciutto for the very latest. >> tonight the u.s. is looking hard at security at airport in sham el-sheikh, egypt but other airports with a particular focus, foreign airports with direct flights here to the u.s. they have long warned that isis may mimic al qaeda's targeting of aviation and some intelligence officials coming closer to believe that the terror group already has. tonight, u.s. intelligence is 99.9% certain a u.s. official tells cnn that a bomb brought down metrojet 9268 over the sinai. >> there has to be a high probability isis was involved and doesn't mean it was a directed attack from isis
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headquarters in syria. >> reporter: the increasingly likely conclusion sparking warnings about the threat from isis. >> this is a huge worldwide problem. >> if this is a bomb by the affiliate of isis, isis eclipsed al qaeda. >> reporter: the lead investigator noted a load noise on the cockpit voice recorder before the plane broke up but wouldn't concede a bomb as the likely culprit. >> the aircraft wreckage does not yet allow for either defying the origin of the in flight breakup. >> reporter: u.s., british and israeli officials seem more convinced. some crucial intelligence coming from communications intercepted by israeli intelligence focused on the sinai and passed along to the u.s. and u.k. one focus now, the possibility this was an inside job with isis
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recruiting an airport worker to place a bomb on board the plane. >> if they were able to infiltrate sham el-sheikh airport, they certainly could have had the opportunity to do that and other airports throughout the middle east. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence is still raw and to some degree circumstantial. u.s. officials don't have hard evidence they normally would at this stage of a crash investigation. explosive residue on wreckage, bodies with shrapnel wounds possibly indicating an explosion. until they do, u.s. officials, you won't hear from intelligence a definitive explanation. >> i'm hearing the egyptians have not allowed fbi or experts to go to sinai and take a look around to see if they could find that forensic evidence. >> that's right. you would think that would be an automatic step early on. look at the wreckage tested and audio recordings tested, all things the fbi and others have great experience doing. they haven't had that
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opportunity. >> the egyptians say they are doing it with other investigators but i'm sure the u.s. would like to be directly involved. to rising concerns an airport worker may have been involved in planting the bomb and a chilling warning that something like that could actually happen right here in the united states. our aviation correspondent rene marsh is looking into all of this for us. rene, what are you learning about the screening of airport workers? >> well, tonight, wolf, we are breaking down the vetting process for airport workers. what most people may not realize is tsa actually depends on more than 400 airports and carriers to do criminal background checks for worker whose get secure access at airports. we know the airports, they collect, they review and verify the personal information of the applicants and then they send that information to a tsa contractor who then sends fingerprint records to the fbi for a criminal history check. and we know that the fbi then runs those fingerprints and
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provides that criminal history check, but we do know also that tsa can only vet workers based on data it gets from the airports and one congressman is sounding the alarm tonight that the current vetting process doesn't do enough to protect domestic flights from an insider threat. tonight, u.s. authorities are honing in on security measures at airports across the middle east. >> isil is out there now active in a lot of different areas and so while this investigation is pending, and because we have this group claiming responsibility, we believe it's significant to do these things on an interim basis. >> reporter: fewer than ten airports in the region with direct flights to the u.s. are seeing increased security including airports in cairo, kuwait and jordan but the list could expand. >> i want people to know that
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their aviation security officials working on their behalf are continually evaluating threats, potential threats and that we make adjustments all the time. >> reporter: as the department of homeland security intensifies the focus on overseas airports, john catco, chairman on transportation security says not enough is known about the close to 1 million airport workers with secure access at airports here in the u.s. >> we don't know enough about them and it's troubling that some don't have the basic buy graphic l data on employees. that needs to change. >> reporter: in june a department of homeland security ensp inspector general say the tsa airport working vetting process had effective methods to match workers to terrorism but not for basic criminal history.
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one u.s. official with knowledge of eavuation security tells cnn the information that's needed to vet airport workers that have access to the most secure areas of the airport is basically the same level a passenger would have to provide to get security precheck clearance. >> once they get hired we lose a little sight of them. their name gets screened against a terror watch list. >> catco authored legislation that would increase random screening of airport workers and increase how many times they are vetted beyond the hire date. it hasn't passed the senate at this point. early they are month we know the head of the tsa told congress there is work to be done as it relates to the insider threat but wolf, if this is a concern domestically where tsa is involved, imagine the situation overseas where tsa is not in charge and cannot physically provide oversight.
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>> chilling when you think about it. rene, thank you. joining us now, a indiana democrat and member of the intelligence. congressman, thanks for joining us. i know you, like your colleagues, have been briefed. can you say conclusively right now, congressman that a bomb caused the downing of the plane? >> i'm not at liberty to conf m confirm. there is a huge and growing threat in the middle east as it relates to isil and other terrorist organizations. it's disappointing our friends and egyptian government have not allowed the fbi and agencies to help with forensics they are skilled at doing and determine the source of this but what it tells me more deeply is that perhaps there was and are terrorist simpympathizers in th
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u.s. >> when do you think u.s. officials can confirm the thoughts of this explosion? we know it was an explosion. they heard an explosion at the end of the cockpit voice recorder recording. >> it would be gravely irresponsible for me to speculate or say quite frankly but it's clear right now as we speak that we need our international community to come together and share intelligence information and to see to it that, you know, one, we're not hurting other u.s. citizens or even russians for that matter but even more than that, that we're guaranteeing the safety of those who wish to travel, see their friends, their loved ones, their families and even vacation. and if we fail to address this threat or even minimize the threat, i hate to see what happens for our future. >> the raise the question, congressman because there is at least one but probably several killers, mass murders at large right now presumably still in sinai, maybe they have gotten out by now. >> yes, you know, this is why
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it's ever more critical for the international law enforcement community and intelligence community to work together. i think our friends in the egyptian government must realize that they need to help with the united states to help track down these terrorists and to get to the root causes of it so another incident doesn't happen like this in the next few weeks. >> you're in the subcommittee and the investigation of tsa showed investigators were able to smuggle mock explosives or banned weapons through check points 95% of the trial run. so are american airports at risk of an attack right now unless security is dramatically reevaluated? >> you're absolutely right. there was a study that showed there is numerous vulnerabilities in airport security since 9/11, we have worked throughout the years to strengthen security at airports and been quite effective for the most part. however, there has to be more
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that needs to be done. the tsa head was direct in his testimony before congress, i think secretary jay johnson is a doing a great job but we have to look at the training. >> aviation security here in the united states and i'm quoting him now, you can lock the front door all you want if you've left the back window open, it doesn't really matter. and it's pretty chilling when you think about the desire of these terrorists to blow up planes with people inside. >> sure, sure. you know, there are a lot of great men and women at tsa who go to work with the intention of making our country safer, but at the same time, there have to be a series of internal controls and reviews regularly to ensure that the outputs are high and that the services are efficient. >> congressman, stand by. we have more to talk about
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we're back with congressman andre carson a member of the house intelligence committee. stand by, we're monitoring now that investigation into the russian airline disaster. we're following other new acts of violence in the middle east. israel says for example, check out this video, a female terrorist a stabbing attempt. she took a knife after her purse and went after that israeli security guard. the woman was shot dead after she refused to listen to security guards demanded she stopped and at that point took that knife out of her purse. and in jordan, a deadly shooting attack at a training facility near the capital of aman. at least five were killed including two american security contractors. the shooter seen in this photo on the right also was killed. he was a jordanen police officer that was fired. a source tells cnn the shooter's motivation was in the word of this jordan source personal but the united states is
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investigating all this played out as president obama met today with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for the first time in for than a year. let's bring in our global affairs correspondent. the president made a point of bringing up that shooting attack in jordan even before he spoke about what is going on in u.s., israeli relations, he spoke about the killing of the two americans in jordan. >> the u.s. investigating. this gentleman was fired. was he radicalized afterwards? they don't know. killed in neighboring jordan shows president obama and netanyahu despite the bad blood and drama don't really have luxury of holding a grudge. the u.s. and israel have an important intelligence security relationship. israel gave intelligence about the downed russian airliner. they also have talking about syria and trying to prevent the
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spillover and threat by isis and iran threat even though the deal is being done, the nuclear deal, the u.s. and israel still concerned about iran's other activity. there is still a lot of bad blood. president obama, netanyahu not going to be best friends but realize they have a lot of work to do together and i thought the comments today reflected that. >> i thought it was significant the president said the u.s., israeli military to military relationship, intelligence cooperation is better than its ever been before. thanks very much. let's bring back andre carson of the house intelligence committee. do you know, congressman, why these two americans in jordan were killed? >> well, as was stated by the police officer or police captains relative there is -- he was certainly disgruntled but a history of mental health issues. we have to know our u.s. military is on the ground
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helping to train security forces from across the world, as well as local law enforcement and these folks are going back with u.s. military training into their countries not only to keep their citizens safe but to fight and protect folks against human rights abuses. so it's deeply unfortunate and it's tragic but we have to remain firm and ensuring that our military is doing the right thing to make the world a better place. >> jordan season a key ally of the united states in that part of the world, one of the best friends the united states has. jordan has a peace treaty with israel as you know. there is a lot of concern that the spillover from syria could undermine what's going on in jordan. there is 1 million or 2 million refugees that came into the kingdom to the jordan kingdom over the past few years from syria. how worried are you about the security of jordan? >> well, jordan has been an ally for decades and i commend them
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for taking in the scores of syria refugees and i think this has caused a strain on the jordan government. that is to say that they remain strong in helping security forces in making tremendous contributions to intelligence sharing as it relates to the security issues on going in the region. my hope is that we can continue our support, the kingdom of jordan and all that they have done and continue to do in being a responsible and helpful partner to the united states and israel as we move forward. >> not going to be an easy assignment but critically important. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. >> honor, thank you. >> the crash of the russian airliner in egypt may be part of a larger operation. are terrorists going to operate in airports around the world? another high-level resignation at a major american
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to find who did it and before there is another deadly attack. there are killers on the loose now. let's dig deeper with paul, our cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes and phil mud. could this attack be part of a larger operation? whoever is behind this could be grooming others to operate within airports elsewhere across the globe? >> wolf, i think there is significant concern about exactly that scenario in the middle east concern that isis recruited other insiders at other middle east earn airports and i think that partly explains why they are now at security enhancement for u.s. flights coming in from several parts of middle east and cairo and also kuwait, concern it's not just iis trying to do it but al qaeda
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and 2010 intelligence services and operating at the airport both in baggage and services and also at heath row airport and communicating through encrypted apps with an america cn terrorists. they are looking to do it again. >> phil, do you believe this was carried out by one lone individual inspired by isis or more sophisticated plot including a bunch of folks? >> no, it's got to be more sophisticated than that and let me explain why this is a march against time because of the sophistication. you might think theis is a coupe guys around a campfire. the spiritual advisor who told the group we have to execute targets against foreigners, in this case russians. the operational commander for
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this, bomb maker, people who supply transportation, communications and money and inside crew who conducted the operation. if you go through that hire ark ki, you're talking about ten, 15, 20 people and the march against time on the heels of what they regard as a tremendous success. there is no way they are not sitting around in a camp or safe house saying what is the next step we have to take to capitalize on that success. >> because phil, this is a bonanza for recruitment for these isis terrorists, right? >> that's right. think about the lack of success that al qaeda and yemen had in 2009 when they failed to take down the airliner over detroit. with that lack of success, they were sitting around in yemen saying wow, we got headlines around the world for something that was a failure. contrast this to today, six years later they have to be sitting back saying we got no press for years and all of a sudden in the blink of an eye, we're the focus of attention for the globe. that is not just a terror
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success, it's money and potential recruits as you said, wolf. >> tom, what is your take? >> at this point, wolf, the fact that everybody is saying it is a bomb, whether if it is or isn't, whether it turned out to be mechanical. it's isis success. they can capitalize and getting publicity and all the vulnerabilities of worldwide aviation is exposed. the fact employees are not checked when hired but even in this country, they can bring contraband as was the case with delta airlines. i think it just has to tell isis leaders that look how easy this is. we could do this anywhere, any time who are is going to stop us and how? >> there was a limited number, paul, of isis videos and statements gloating, if you will. are you surprised there is not more of that going on now? >> what i'm surprised by, wolf, over the last 72 hours isis has
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not officially commented at all again on offering any more claims for this metrojet crash. last week they put together a number of propaganda videos put together by the group. there was an audio claim and immediately after the crash a statement put out by the group. i think perhaps one of the reasons for the lack specificity is to protect an insider to try get away or even to ride it out, wolf. >> so phil, how do you get -- how do you find out if there is an insider, terrorist working at an airport with cargo hold or caterers, how do you find out about these individuals? >> you have three options, wires, classic intelligence operation. can you penetrate phone calls,
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radio communication, e-mail. human sources, do you have particularly egyptians inside the isis organization that can give you a sense what is going on around the campfire and interviews with personnel and presumably receives to determine whether you can get on the ground information. one question is we're talking about u.s. participation in this. it's a you sharussian aircraft we're ging to want to get into this game to determine who is responsible and i think the egyptians and russians are old indicating that they are not sure they want the americans in this game. >> so far, tom, the fbi is not allowed to go in sinai is and do tests. they have a officer or two. >> that's a big fbi office -- >> but they are in cairo, not sinai. >> they are not invited to go work on the case and the fbi
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officered assistance, crime scene investigatiors and bomb experts and the egyptians said no thank you, we have five countries involved. we don't need the fbi. we don't need the ntsb. they have enough people. that's how it is. we don't have an american citizen killed or american flag carrier and unless invited, they are not going to come. >> the engines of that airbus were u.s.-made and the flight data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder was similar to this one, u.s. made. >> that doesn't automatically allow the fbi to come in or ntsb to come in if there is suitable investigative workers. this offer was made from the beginning and, you know, just we're told they are not going to be and i don't think they ever will be invited to work the case just like they weren't invited to go to the ukraine on the mh
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dramatic upheaval tonight where protest by students, faculty and the football team over race relations led the school president to resign today and tonight there is word the chancellor has just announced he is stepping down, as well. african american students at one predominantly white campus say school leaders didn't deal with racism including the open use of racial slurs. tim wolf accepted responsibility in healing and conversation. let's get more what is going on with the president and ceo of the naacp cornell william brooks. cornell, thanks for coming in.
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>> thank you. >> i want to play for you an exchange, the university, out going president of the university of missouri tim wolf and some students. >> i will give you an answer and i'm sure it will be a wrong answer. i'll give you an answer and i'm sure it will be a wrong answer. >> what do you think sismatic depression is. >> did you just blame us for systemic depression? >> as a result of the bubbling over he stepped down today. is this just a problem at the university of missouri or a problem nationwide? >> i think it's a problem nationwide. we have a generation of students what believe that the number one issue of concern is race, and
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what we've seen at the university of missouri is what we see on campuses across the country. young people concerned about the racial climate in our country, as well as on their campus. that exchange was exchange in which you have a group of students who came to the university to open their hearts and open their minds. they were asking their president to open his heart, open his mind to their concerns and the fact that he didn't and did not demonstrate the sensitivity and the care and concern that one would expect from aun versety president, had a lot to do with him not being university president going forward. >> these kinds of incidents, they are not supposed to take place in this day in age. i can understand in the battle days of 50s and '60s but i thought we were beyond that. >> a father and mother whose son is there, when they called me to ask me to talk with their grandson about how he felt being
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there, the "n" word should in the be a course or college requirement and the university is the place where you go to expand your horizons, not have your horizons close in on you in a racially insensitive way. the fact of the matter is what we've seen there is a generation of young people saying we want an environment in which we can study and imagine and explore, not an environment we have to be afraid or concerned arsecond guess ourselves and that's quite simply what many students are feeling. >> what was extremely unusual, you can correct me if i'm wrong, in this particular case, the pressure was building not just students but student activists including members of the football team at the university of missouri threatened they wouldn't play this coming saturday unless something
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dramatic like this happened. the university is set to lose in that one game maybe $1 million if that game didn't go forward. have down ever heard anything like that happening where football players say we're not playing if this continues? >> it's rare. the fact of the matter is we have athlete scholars leveraging their economic power as well as athletic powers. you're willing to hear our concerns and the fact that the university president, that's a chancellor that the university system and student body is paying attention to not only them as athletes but as leaders and leaders among leaders because we have the students who proceeded them, the young man jonathan who engaged in the strike. the fact of the matter is they believe these are not issues, these are serious issues, core issues. you have not have a university core campus, freedom where
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people are literally constrained by the animosity of others. >> how important was the financial, the money part of this in forcing this president to step down, the fact they would lose a lot of money because the football players wouldn't play? >> i believe it was pivotal. i believe it was pivotal. but i don't want to under state the importance that proceeded it when we sent down our college division director steven green to talk with these students, i should say when he spoke with the students and when your naacp in missouri reached out, they were committed and dedicated. the point being here is the athletes we enforce what was already there. but they have to be commended for leadership. >> dramatic moment, indeed, cornell, thanks for coming in. >> thank you. just ahead, we'll take a look at american politics. the race for the white house. bernie sanders talks to cnn about the race, what is going
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donald trump ratings winner for "saturday night live." the appearance garnerned the highest number of viewers in three years even though he was only in front of the camera for about 12 minutes of the 90-minute show. >> part of the reason i'm here stha t i know how to take a joke. this show has been a disaster for me. look at this guy. isn't he fantastic? i have to say you're doing a great job. i think the show got better by about 2 billion percent. interesting that now that i'm here this is actually the best monologue in "snl" history. >> that's pretty good.
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look at this. [ applause ] >> you think you're this terrific person. you think you're this. you think you're that. you're being very naive and quite frankly, you're fired. >> they don't have my talent, my money or especially my good looks, but you know what, they are not bad and we are going to have a lot of fun tonight. >> you're a racist. >> i knew this was going to happen. who is that? >> trump's a racist! >> it's larry david. what are you doing, larry? >> i heard if i yelled that they would give me $5,000.
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>> as a businessman i can fully respect that. that's okay. we have got a great show tonight. >> larry david appeared as himself in the clip and reprised his portrayal as senator bernie sanders. what he talked about with our chief political analyst with us right now. you have a wide ranging candid interview with this democratic presidential candidate. >> i sat down with bernie and his wife in south carolina and we began by talking about how surprised they were this past summer when the senator became a cultural phenomenon and even the feel the burn underwear inspired by "saturday night live." >> we have created a t-shirt and underwear revolution in america.
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to answer your question it has resonated a heck of a lot faster. >> so there is a buzzword that we use a lot in campaigns and that is authenticity. we talk about authenticity. >> he is very authentic. he has been consistent on the issues. i know one of the things that people in vermont feel is that we get support from republicans in vermont. they say i disagree with you on many, many things but i know you are saying whautyou believe and you will do what you say. >> is this an authentic hair cut? it cost me $2,000. >> somehow i don't believe that to be the truth. this is the summer of bernie. you had huge crowds, beating hillary clinton in the polls in new hampshire and iowa. is the magic you had this summer slipping away from you? >> no. absolutely not. let's go back six months and
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let's look at bernie sanders announcing his candidacy and being 3%, 4% in the polls. no money in his campaign, no volunteers, no political organizations running against a woman who is enormously well known whose husband was president of the united states. >> that would be hillary clinton. >> i don't want to say. we started off six months ago. the media considered bernie sanders a fringe candidate. now you are saying you haven't quite won this thing yet. that tells me we have made real progress in six months. >> hillary clinton has 31 endorsements from people in the senate and you don't have any. >> that's correct. >> what does that show? >> one of us is a candidate of the establishment. one of us is involved in establishment praultics and maybe the other candidate is prepared to take on the
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establishment. >> that would be you. >> that would be me. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> i want to talk about hillary clinton's damn e-mails to quote you. >> i think the american people get tired of seeing front page stories from the media day after day about e-mails. they want to know why their kids can't afford to go to college. they want to know why they can't afford health care. that's what they want to know. >> they want to know about their presidential candidates. >> sure they do. but day after day. enough is enough with the e-mails. i believe that. there is a process on the way. what i said right after the debate, there is a process. there is an investigation. let it take its course. i'm not involved in that. >> you gave her a pass during the debate. do you regret that? >> i do not regret that at all. i cannot walk down the corridors
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in capitol hill without being begged by the media to attack hillary clinton. i choose not to do that. >> let me tell you about the issues between you and hillary clinton. she has recently come to oppose the pacific trade deal, come to oppose keystone as the president opposes keystone, has vowed to take on big banks. how should voters view these changes? >> good question. >> thank you. how should voters view those changes? >> what you should see is how do you feel about u.s. trade policies. that's the first question. do you think it is good. the question is who is out front on this issue? who has consistently been opposed to trade policy. i am glad that hillary clinton finally came on board in opposition. >> does it tell you anything about her? >> that is what the american people will have to do.
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>> i am not voting for hillary clinton. you have a breaking news story here. i'm supporting bernie sanders. >> so the "new york times" has said that bernie sanders has a grumpy demeanor and makes the case that you are not a great a schmoozer. >> you have to bring it back to the hope at the end. he is not grumpy really just except when the media doesn't pay attention. >> the question is am i much into small talk. i'm not so great at that. do i enjoy retail politics? the answer is i really do. >> do you ever get him confused with larry david? >> the only people i like are my seven adorable grandchildren.
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>> do you do a larry david imitation? >> what do you think i have been doing for the last half hour? >> he has done amazingly well considering where he came from. he has a challenge ahead of him. >> he was beating hillary clinton in iowa, new hampshire, drawing thousands of people at rallies. he still draws really great crowds at rallies. now that joe biden said i'm not riding polls are tight in new hampshire, behind in iowa and he is 31 points behind hillary clinton nationally. he has to get these young people who like him to the polls and figure out a way to get african-americans, as well, in the south to take a look at him and feel that they can vote for him. it's a huge challenge. we'll see if he is up to it. we will continue to follow. remember you can always
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