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>> good evening, thanks for joining us. there's a big night of politics as the republican candidates square off once again. full coverage in a moment. we're just learning about a plane crashing. federal investigators heading to this fiery scene in akron, ohio, a business jet went down a short time ago, a small apartment building you see burning. lot of questions at this hour including how many people were on board. joining us now the latest details is rene marsh. what do we know what happened? >> you see the fireball there. this plane crashed into a residential building while it was approaching the akron fullson airport this afternoon. from the video it was an overcast day, our cnn weather team says that at the time of the crash, visibility was about a mile and a half with reports of fog but anderson, it is too early to know whether weather was a factor or something mechanical. we know the ntsb will investigate.
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i'm told the investigator will be on site later on tonight. >> is there any idea about potential casualties? >> there are some numbers floating out there but nothing official coming from the ntsb at this time. they are still trying to track down information themselves. we know that this twin engine business jet was a ten-seater but we do not know how many people were on board. we do know though anderson unfortunately there were no survivors. >> and was anyone on the ground injured? >> well, when you look at that scene you would think someone may have been hurt in some way, shape or form, but we are told so far that on the ground no one was hurt despite the scene that you're looking at there, all of the fatalities from what we're hearing are all of the individuals who were on board that aircraft. >> rene, we'll continue to follow it throughout this hour. thanks very much. now debate night for republicans in milwaukee, the first of two heading toward the final moments and big differences this time around, two top tier candidates in the
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last debate, chris christie and mike huckabee on the undercard. two others, lindsey graham and george pataki out of the debates entirely. jeb bush now struggling against the perception that he's a beaten man. is he in the spotlight tonight so our front-runners donald trump and ben carson, so it marco rubio. first we want to get highlights from a spirited undercard debate. >> how do you win a national election when the democrats are offering free health care, a free or subsidized college education and you're the party that is seemingly offering nothing in the way of immediate tangible benefits? >> yeah, sure. if anybody believes the stuff they heard from the democratic debate a few weeks ago there's nothing for free. they're going to raise their tax rates to 70% to 80% in order to provide all of that stuff.
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let me ask the folks at home one simple question. do you want to give washington more control over your life? do you think they're doing such a great job that now let's have them control what our corporations pay their employees? let's have them control every aspect of our economy? is washington doing that good a job for you right now? and the fact is that if you listen to hillary clinton, she's made it very clear. she believes that she can make decisions for you better than you can make them for yourself. >> are democrats simply putting forward a better national economic message than the one republicans are offering and what should republicans do about it? >> no, i think right now there's not much difference between the two parties. the reason we keep losing nationally, we try to be cheaper versions of the democratic party. >> just not accurate to say that nobody else up here has ever cut. i believe every governor has probably had to make tough decisions. >> wait, i want to respond. he criticized something i said. mike, with all due respect i admire your social views, i share many of those views. your record as governor tells a
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different story. >> for the people out there right now i want to guarantee you one thing real clearly if you think that mike huckabee won't be the kind of president who will cut back president or chris christie or john kasich, wait until you see what hillary clinton will do to this country and how she will drown us in debt. she is the real adversary tonight and we better stay focused as republicans on her. >> don't let them fool us again. i'll give you a ribbon for participation and a jukebox but in the real world it's about results. it's about actually cutting government spending, not just talking about cutting government spending. >> this is a legitimate debate between chris and bobby. bobby says we need a principaled conservative. >> do you remember why we're in the poogs we're in with china. because a weak and feckless foreign policy engineered by hillary clinton and barack obama. that's why we're in the fogs we're in.
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>> you know who i respect in the democratic party? you know why i respect them, because they fight! because they're not willing to back down and they're willing to stand up and fight and win so i respect them, because they are willing to take it to us. >> we need a conservative, not a big government republican in d.c. >> let me just say -- >> last word briefly. >> let me just say this. i complimented bobby. imagine how much time he'd want if i criticized him. >> actual from ana innavarro a b bush supporter and senior political reporter nia-malika henderson and political director in the reagan white house and gloria borger. ana, chris christie clearly trying to keep the focus on hillary clinton. bobby jindal came in with a strategy of hitting back at chris christie and mike huckabee's record. >> i have one thing to say bring back lindsey graham. we had an hour between the
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humorless debate between the four. i miss his passion voice on policy and security and sense of humor and levity and god knows the republicans need a little levity right now. >> chris christie i think, i've always thought that he's the best debater of the field. i think tonight he was able to not only talk about his open record, he was able to turn the focus on hillary clinton but also he has that great technique of direct to camera, in talking to american, the american people in a very folksy way. i thought he was fantastic tonight. none of this might matter. maybe he gets back to the main stage, maybe he doesn't. seems like so far he had good debate tonight. >> it helped him to be on a stage with three other people. there was more time, more substance and it will be interesting to see if the main debate and we'll be after the debate from 11:00 to 1 a.m. discussing the debate, the fact there's only eight of them know
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gives the same benefit to some on the stage. >> you hope if you're jeb bush you can get more time, you hope if you're any of the other folks who didn't get enough time or didn't force themselves into the conversation, the slimmed down version of the debate makz a difference. >> did you just say "only eight of them"? >> relatively speaking. >> i thought christie did a great job. his problem is he's at 5% in the poll in new hampshire. chris christie's polling his farve favorability is continuing to rise, 54% favorable. he looked like a middle child, the peacemaker. wasn't so long ago we thought that chris christie was the bully. do you remember that in this race? >> his polls are going way down. he has something to lose by staying in this race and has to ask himself the question is it worth it for me.
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because unless rick santorum -- >> he didn't rise to bobbydal attacks. he was attacking even when chris christie said i have nothing bad to say about jindal. let's talk about hillary clinton. jindal came in with a strategy intent on him. >> call me skeptical but i'm not sure the next president of the united states who is a republican was on that stage tonight. they keep going down, not up and at a certain point here the game is going to be called and they're going to be done. that said i do think that governor jip dal made a sensitive point for a lot of republicans, it was reflected in the house situation with speaker boehner is that he's blaming our problems not just on democrats and president obama and hillary clinton, he's blaming republicans. and that is a fierce message out there. >> his message tonight is not enough to elect a republican. you have to collect a real conservative. >> it was santorum's argument in 2012 and it worked for a while.
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he was able to win almost a double, worked once. >> a few times. >> he won a couple of states. this is a debate that has gone back to ronald reagan, are you a bold conservative or running in pastels. >> chris christie is a brilliant tactician, a very good debater and there is nothing worse than trying to start an argument with somebody and have them flick you off, ignore you, and that's what he did to bobby jindal all night, not give him the dignity of waging a fight. >> i think jindal understood this to be his last stand and so he had to give it everything. >> go for it. little overcaffeinated >> why do you think he will understand it's his last stand? what does he have to lose? >> it depends on how much money he has and who his sugar daddy is. >> do you see all four on the stage staying through to iowa, to new hampshire?
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>> maybe. but not beyond that. i don't think. >> i take ana's point, the question is what do you have to lose and jindal is not running for re-election. it depends how much in debt he wants to go. >> wants to have a place in the party presumably, something identifying with the cause. >> trying to use this for the next step, former governor or senator. at some point you ask am i diminishing myself? rick santorum has got a dream one donor and a sweater vest. with that he can go on for months. he did it in 2012. >> that was the point james baker to george h.w. bush in late 1980, he won a couple of primaries but he wasn't going to win and could have kept going and jim baker said to him if you want any chance of being on this ticket, stop now. stop now.
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>> here is the potent thing christie did a tack hillary clinton. we've seen republicans atacking each other all the time. tonight christie swatted away jindal, and then turned the focus to hillary clinton saying she'd be another term of barack obama which is a very popular refrain with republican primary voters so i think he did himself some good. >> other than carly fiorina. the trend now is downward for a lot of these folks. >> it is and this is why christie's strength tonight may help him, but you know, we just don't know whether it's too late. look, there are months to go. so we don't know. there's a cnn debate in december, which people will be paying attention to, because it's right before iowa/new hampshire. we'll see. >> two things are happening. one is some of these folks are on a downward trend but also the requirements are on an upward trend.
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we saw the requirements for this debate were different and higher than the previous three. >> and maybe they'll start doing it by the states as opposed to national polling. >> next step from down is up. >> is up, yes. we're going to take a quick break. lot more to come in the hour throughout the evening. coming up next, jeb bush's challenge winning people over. new numbers showing why it is such a challenge for him and what he may try to do tonight to fix that if possible. plus a key pro-bush super pac threatening to spend tens of millions of dollars to go on marco rubio. we'll talk to a top republican strategist what he thinks of that idea. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts, ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite,
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the main event is yet to come, several main themes there, donald trump and ben carson jockeying obviously for the lead. marco rubio seen by many as the next so-called establishment alternative. ted cruz as a potential surprise. jeb bush struggling to relaunch yet again his campaign and new polling that could shed light on why he's struggling. john king has a look by the numbers and joins us now. let's look at the national state of play. >> there's three, maybe four tiers in the republican race. the national average in the polling this is all 14 candidates. it's a little confusing if you look at the numbers. the top five, carson and trump
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at the top of the pack around 23%, 24%. rubio and cruz, the second tier at 12%, 13% in the average of the national polls. this is jeb bush down here, a little above 6%. one tier, two tier, three tiers and everybody else, that's a look at the national. if you look at iowa, the state that votes first and again let's focus on the top five pretty much the same, trump, carson, rubio, cruz and jeb bush. iowa votes first in 82 days. what's interesting going into the debate tonight, the stakes are high, if you look at the next state, new hampshire, trump is still all alone. let me put up the top five. trump is all alone. carson, rubio, bush down here at the bottom of the pack. tight national race trumping carson, tight iowa race trumping carson. new hampshire trump alone. in the dynamic tonight focus on getting carson, trump, abderson, a huge factor in this race. >> and half or more of the republican electorate says they
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haven't locked in on a choice yet. so all the candidates there is still an opportunity. >> there's also some candidates having a harder time getting republican voters to listen. this is the mcclatchy marist poll that came out here. the red is the more you hear the more you like. 67% of republicans say the more they hear ben carson the more they like it. 58% the more they hear marco rubio the more they like him. majority more they hear ted cruz the more they like that. only 44% for donald trump. jeb bush only 32% of republicans say the more they hear you and the more they like you. six in ten say the more they hear jeb bush the less they like him. nearly half say the more they hear trch trmp the less they like him. if you're carson, rubio and cruz you want to keep the trend going. trump or bush you need to turn it around. who would you not support?
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37% of republicans say they would definitely not support donald trump. 32% definitely not support jeb bush. talk about room to grow, only % say that about marco rubio and ted cruz and only 3% say they'd never support ben carson. these guys have a lot of room to grow and have to turn the general dynamic. 43% of moderates say they'd never support trump. 22% are conservative. again, 41% of republicans who say they're very conservative, the kind of voters who show up for republican primaries say they'd never support jeb bush. he has to change that dynamic if there's a comeback. >> john thank you very much. back with our panel and stuart stevens, mitt romney's chief strategist joined the last campaign and author of "the last season: a father and son and lifetime of college football." stuart, what are you expecting tonight on the main stage? last night trmp trrp was vocal
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came to ben carson's personal story, the past week about accuracy. do you think he was test driving an attack for the debate or do you think he stays away from that tonight? >> listen i wouldn't want to be in the business of guessing what donald trump is going to do. if you're trying to win an election for the guy in a gambling business to attack the guy who saves people's lives, it seems pretty sketchy strategy to me. they need to talk about what they'll do to be the president of the united states. if you're jeb bush you need to attack donald trump, the biggest guy in the room. you get credit if you walk up to the biggest guy in the room and punch him. the problem i think if he goes after marco rubio it's like getting in a wrestling match with your little brother. i don't think it helps you at best. >> there's this report, stuart, if you were jeb bush, you look at those numbers, we just looked
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at john's report on the numbers, the more people hear of jeb bush the less they like him, but if that's the case, then if you're jeb bush, not getting an opportunity to talk a lot in the last debate, maybe that wasn't such a bad thing. >> listen, you know, when things aren't working in a campaign, nothing works. then they turn around and they start to work. you saw that with hillary clinton. these things can turn on a dime. jeb bush can come back. i was in a campaign everybody in the world was giving us advice, some of it good, some of it not. personal i think jeb bush needs to talk more about the future and less about florida. he was a fantastic governor of florida but i don't think being a fantastic governor of florida qualifies you to be the next president of the united states. so he needs to i think to offer really specific suggestions, advice, plans of what he's going to do as president and just talk about that. >> i want to bring back in
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stuart, stay with me, gloria borger and jeffrey and malia anderson and ana and a half row. people said when debates get more into details donald trump, ben carson kind of fade back a little bit. we've seen that in past debates. do you expect that to tonight or is this an opportunity with again just the eight people on the stage? >> coming with the trade proposal i believe, a fairly detailed trade proposal. i've seen details of it. i imagine he could talk about that. >> the economy is his terra firma and if you look at polling, republicans believe he's best able to handle the economy, trump, not so much with carson, and i think it's a higher hurdle for dr. carson, because he's less comfortable, we're talking about the economy and i think if i were carson that is what i would be talking about or trying to talk about. >> his people have said this is the debate he's been waiting for. he wants to talk about the economy. he wants to talk about the issues. they said the same thing before
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the last debate, about the economy, he didn't come off that krable in terms of detailed plans about his 10% or 15% tax plan. we have to see what he's going to do tonight. i think if you're jeb bush you probably feel good about what you've seen so far. he said he's the wonk, wants to talk policy and go into detail. >> one of the things that we've seen so far is in the undercard debate we're seeing big contrast from what we saw moderator wise in the last debate. they stouk fiscal policy, economy questions, and you didn't see from the candidates on the stage all the whining and moaning that you heard in the last debate because they didn't have eye reason to. you're seeing a different debate tonight than then days ago. >> i have no doubt the moderators are very smart and folks at fox are very smart, will want to contrast themselves to what happened at the cnbc debate and stick to very
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detailed economic issues which is what everybody on that stage says they want to see as well. >> maybe be able to cite the sources for the quotes they use? >> the biggest numbers before is 26% or 27%, the number of people in the country that think the country is going in the right direction. that's the key that this entire election is being played in. it's a wrong track election now and i thought chris christie very effectively played to that, contrasting with hillary clinton. hillary clinton right now is running in the democratic primary successfully as a third term of barack obama, we're yet to see if that is a successful case you can prosecute a year from now. for republicans you have to really take it back to the economic issues and this is a great opportunity. people are going to vote based on the economy and in this election. >> everyone agreez. >> i agree and if i were marco rubio who has had questions about his personal finances and how can you possibly balance a
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budge get you can't balance the checkbook i would stick to the economy no matter what anybody was saying to me. that's a line he has to cross and say look, i can handle the federal deficit. i can do that. and jeb might attack him on that. >> does anybody have to attack tonight in order to try to, you know, punch up, get their name out there? does -- >> maybe ted and marco, keep going. i think what we're in the process of seeing is this race is coming down to four people and that would be trump, carson, marco rubio and ted cruz, and then we'll see how that goes from there. but i think we're slowly evolving into that. >> marco rubio a lot more people have been talking about him of late. what do you think he has to do? >> i think he has, well first he has got high expectations because marco has been very good in all three previous debates. he's good at debating, quick, witty, humorous, can he turn things around, he can gaining the audience's emotion.
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he has to deliver another great debate and i expect people will be coming at him from all sides. he has been up to now very able to turn some of those arguments around and say hey, i'm your average joe. i'm everyday america. everyday america can relate to me and my debts and my finances. he does that very well. now i do think there is somebody on the staining we haven't mentioned at all who does have to show a pulse who has to show an attack line and that's john kasich. he's practically disappeared from the radar screen and our mouths. >> he had one very good moment on gay marriage in the first debate. he hasn't really had a stellar moment since then enhe needs it badly. just ahead the leading republican candidates have a chance tonight to widen their leads and win over voters undecided. what will evangelical christians
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during the recession of 2001 through 2003 when 91% of our state budget was basically three things, educate, medicate and incarcerate, we ended up cutting 11% out of the state budget through that recession so we didn't have to go in and raise a bunch of taxes and there were people who thought we should. so it's just not accurate to say that nobody else up here has ever cut -- >> i want to respond to that, mike, with all due respect i admire your social views and share many of those views. your record as governor tells a different story. wanting to cut is one thing, actually cutting is a different thing. facts don't lie. >> that's bobby jindal and mike huckabee in a sharp exchange tonight. the leading republican candidates facing off in their fourth debates. the undercard he it bait wrapped up a short time ago. they shared the stage for that. dana bash is at the debate venue joins us now as we await the start of this next debate, the main debate.
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often things may on television different than in the room. what is the sense how things went on the undercard? >> reporter: obviously there was a lot of talk of substance but what you just played i think crystallizes and encapsulates what went on. you had the two new members of the undercard debate, chris christie and mike huckabee suddenly the target the the other two, bobby jindal, because both of them have governed states, one the govern of new jersey where they are accused by conservatives of not being conservative enough. mike huckabee when he ran in 2008 had the conservative club for growth after him hard for not cutting spending enough when he was governor enough and that's why you saw governor jindal try to use them as a foil, something we'd never see in the main stage debate because they're just not the focus, there are other front-runners,
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the front-runners the focus. it symbolizes where the republican party is, they're trying to say it's not about us, it's about hillary clinton but for republican primary voters it isn't. it is about the policies and positions of conservatives. >> what are you looking for tonight for the main debate? >> well, i think it's just going to be fascinating to see ben carson and whether the mellow ben carson shows up or the guy who we've seen trying to febd off questions about the stories and anecdotes of his personal story whether that guy shows up and whether or not anybody challenges him on the issue and of course the thing i look about i talked about before the break the soap opera going on since the last debate. the two have such personal
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connection, so many support hes intertwined and how they handle one another on the stage tonight. >> a lot to look forward to. we're on after two hours after the debate from 11:00 to 1:00 a.m. join us for full analysis. some of the people watching tonight and will be voting very soon, randi kaye is in marshalltown, iowa, outside des moines, watching with a main group of evangelical voters. what are they looking for tonight? >> reporter: they have a lot of questions for the candidates. they wish we could be near the debate stage to ask them themselves. many are undecided. the issues most important the economy, jobs, taxes, immigration. we have about 20 voters with us here tonight, watching the next debate with us. let's talk to a couple of them, see what the issues are, many are undecided, marcia fricke deciding here. are you leaning toward anyone as an undecided voter >> i'm looking closely at what
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donald trump and ben carson and ted cruz interest v to say tonight. >> what is the issue most important to you looking at those three? >> i'd like to see what they have to say about the industry, the industry that's moved out of the united states, and here in iowa we've had a lot of big manufacturers that parts of them have moved to mexico and really concerned of how we can get the jobs back. >> so i could see why you would be interested hearing what donald trump has to say. as on evangelical voter is he done servive enough for you? >> well, he's probably, i know he does not line up quite as strictly as an evangelical, as a christian, as what i would like to see, but i guess i really feel that we've got to get somebody that's going to really get things done. >> let me bring in nick barnes who is also undecided. tell me what the issue is for you, what are you looking to hear that might help you decide? >> my wife and i are raising three young boys, most important
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to us is a strong economy that our country can maintain and we're in a lot of debt. we need to focus on that and also securing our borders so those are two of the areas that i'm most interested in hearing about tonight. >> why are you still undecided? >> i think there's a lot of good choices to be honest with you. we're lucky to have so many choices but that makes it a tough decision. hopefully they can in a are row the field down tonight. >> as you know here in iowa, donald trump and ben carson running neck and neck, if it came down to those two, do you have a favorite? >> i think so. i think over those two more of a trump supporter. carson hasn't done a great job handling the criticism brought his way. >> it's not so much it happened 50 years ago and who is wrong and right. it's more just that you don't like how he handled it. >> everybody's got some skeletons in the closet. you don't get to this point without stepping on a few feet but it's how you handle that and i don't think he's done a good job. >> reporter: we'll be watching tonight along with 20 other voters here along with us. anderson, back to you. >> thank him for letting us tag
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welcome back. hillary clinton is taking heat tonight for laughing at what a supporter said about jill carroll carl i-fiorina. >> she laid off over 40,000 people and she says she's a great ceo. every time i see her on tv i want to reach through and strangle her. you know, i know that doesn't sound very nice, but -- >> i wouldn't mess with you. >> her reaction hillary clinton's reaction sparked immediate backlash. the rnc blasting clinton for not condemning the remark. fiorina campaign is seizing on the moment. the deputy campaign manager tweeted this "let's all watch
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hillary clinton's lapdogs explain why this is okay in three, two, one, #whatbias. joining us is donna brazile, vice chair of the dnc voter project. if somebody said this about hillary clinton the democrats will be up in arms. >> if i went through all of my videotapes and everything else in my library republicans criticizing hillary clinton, it would be an endless episode and you know i love you and be with you for a couple hours. >> same for barack obama in 2008. >> whenever you have voters like this gentleman who is clearly frustrated who says something that's ridiculouridiculous, can have to pause and say you know what? that's inappropriate. let's get back to the issues. happens all the time. i'm not excusing anybody.
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>> you think they shoe have said that? >> hell, look, when john mccain, john mccain still gets my number one when he pushed back on some of the craziness of 2008, obama is not a christian. just a few weeks ago, carly fiorina had a chance and didn't. i don't like to play to both sides but look at what the real issue is here, women's issues like women candidates deserve respect. bottom line. >> you mentioned this fiorina, i want to play that just so people know what you're referring to, this is carly fiorina on the campaign trail last week, she received criticism previously for. >> just want this country to get ahead. he doesn't. he's a muslim. he's a black muslim. >> time to do something different in many ways. >> absolutely. >> so i mean, people pointed to that saying she should have pushed back. one is saying something about
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his beliefs on the president's religion, the other is talking about -- >> one last -- >> the point here, this is about political correctness and far be it for me to defend donna's friend dhillary clinton. the guy's tone was laughing. who not mopping us has not said at some point out of frustration i'd like to strangle so and so. it's in the vernacular of america. the problem for hillary clinton comes with going after donald trump for attacking him in a politically correct fashion saying when he had the situation was the guy who said the president was a muslim and she went after him and with great indignation and of course it's her turn and she stands there and laughs. it's crazy to be doing this. that is the real issue. >> hillary clinton missed a moment. she's been rising above the pettiness of politics, being a statesman or stateswoman in her case and i think she could have
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done that in that moment. i think she would have brushed him back. >> she completely missed the moment to be presidential and rise above it in 2008. clinton dlnt reaction was to laugh and carly fiorina to walk away. this is the first time we've talked about her and if you take a look practically the only time we talk about carly fiorina in the last month when her faith is being attacked by donald trump, her smile is being attacked by people on "the view." >> donald trump last night was talking about ben carson and this allegation he attempted to hit his mother with a hammer. i'm appalled the the notion
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everyone would raise it in my house, raise your voice, let alone your head at your mother. >> want to hit you back. >> we could not alone look back -- these candidates are who are angry, we see a lot of that on the republican side on the democratic side. whether it's joking, in jest, saying well this is not the right thing to say. it was the moment to say stop. some people are not as quick as anderson cooper on their feet. >> at this point hillary is the presumptive nominee unless there's a political -- that part is true but unless there is something that changes radically in the next 90 days, she's' going to win. she looks like she's gliding to the nomination. so she has got the chance and the opportunity and the ability to rise above and start being presidential now. >> let's look at it, appreciate
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it. thank you all. we're going to be covering the debate from 11:00 to 1:00. ntsb investigators will join the investigation to what brought down metro jet 9268 and u.s. officials believe they know what kind of explosives they used and how it was detonated. details in a moment. ono off-days, or downtime.ason. opportunity is everything you make of it. this winter, take advantage of our season's best offers on the latest generation of cadillacs. the 2016 cadillac ats. get this low-mileage lease
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more breaking news tonight, the egyptian government says it will allow ntsb investigators to take part in the metro jet 9268 investigation. this would make them the first to be directly involved. also tonight u.s. officials believe they know what kind of explosive was used to take down the airbus as well as how it got on board and how it was detonated. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto joins us with the latest. what are you hearing from u.s. officials? >> what they're doing now is building a more detailed working theory. this is without the hard forensic evidence you normally have with an investigation like this, access to the wreckage, to the bodies, the voice recorder but u.s. intelligence officials more convinced that a bomb with a timer may have taken this plane down, that it was more than likely snuck on board by someone with access to that plane rather than a passenger, and based on a flash caught by a
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u.s. satellite as well as photos of the wreckage and other clues that a military grade explosive, something like a c4 would be needed to cause a blast like this. to be clear, this is far from a conclusion or a final assessment, but they are trying to piece together the pieces of this puzzle from afar here. >> do we know what steps the egyptian government, egyptian security took immediately after the crash? >> they say they took serious steps immediately after the crash, that they interviewed and investigated every person who had access to this aircraft before that flight including all the staff from ss air, the company that serviced and catered the plane, this according to sharm el sheikh airport employee familiar with security operations there. egyptian officials say they are in control of all the cameras and sensors and related information at that air force before announcing the crash that had taken place but they have not made any arrests from the interviews or from that video footage they've watched. >> and this news that the ntsb
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will be able to join the investigation, do you have, know more details about this? >> this is our big deal. rene marsh reported they have accepted a longstanding offer from the ntsb to travel to egypt to visit the crash scene and take part in the investigation. this could be key, it gives you what u.s. intelligence has been lacking so far, access to forensic evidence that could allow for a more definitive judgment. talking about a bomb if you could test the wreckage for explosives residue that will give you the answer. was it a bomb and what kind of bomb was used. that's the step needed to be taken now so that u.s. intelligence can give in advance what happened here. up next, a group of voters in south carolina what they want to hear from the candidates tonight in milwaukee. 0 new cars being sold every month. this is a very big problem for us with respect to fast and efficient transportation. it's kind of a losing proposition to keep going this way.
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as we cover tonight's republican
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debate we'll be talking with voters the way we did in iowa and watching the debate with them. another important state is south carolina. gary tuchman is there with a group of voters in mt. pleasant not far from charlton. >> reporter: anderson a debate can be a party. ask the south carolinians in this room, right? [ cheers and applause ] this is the cinebar multiplex in south carolina, charleston county, south carolina, the republican party invited 115 people but too many and figure another theater to watch the debate and we want to get an idea right now before the debate starts who they're supporting at this point before they hear what the candidates have to -- hold on, everybody, we need order in this place. we need order. i'll ask you in alphabetical order, who is supporting bush? [ cheers and applause ] who is supporting carson? [ cheers and applause ] who is supporting cruz?
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[ cheers and applause ] fiorina? no fiorina. kasich. [ cheers and applause ] . paul? [ cheers and applause ] rubio in [ cheers and applause ] trump? [ cheers and applause [ cheers and applause ] we see people whoo w.h.o. thing that their minds. this say large number of people, anderson and we'll get a good idea when we come back in the 11:00 p.m. eastern time if any people at the debate party which has pizza and lots of drinks if they've changed their mind. back to you. >> do a quick show of hands how many are on undecided? >> anderson asked how many are undecided? [ cheers and applause ] as you see those will be people we'll be talking to, the undecideds quite a few here also. >> get some popcorn in the theater. thanks very much. that does it for us. we of course are going to be back at 1:00 p.m. eastern after the fox business news debate. we'll be on from 11:00 to 1:00
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