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i laid my body next to his, the doctor checked him out, there with people who risked it all for any opportunity. i think it's our responsibility to do what we can. >> erin schrode. thank you for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. "the lead" with jake tapper live in paris starts now. >> welcome to our viewers in the was around the world. i'm jake tapper, live in paris, france. this is "the lead." we are going to begin with breaking news. four days after suicide blasts outside that french soccer stadium in german soccer stadium is being evacuated over a bomb threat as well. german police say there was concrete evidence someone wanted to set off an explosive device in the stadium. german chancellor angela merkel,
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and other members of the merkel government, were, we're told on their way to the friendly match we dween /* tween germany and netterlands. the official is telling us as of now no explosives have been found and no arrests have been made. there also are furious developments today into the investigation right here in paris. officials saying they have a cell phone that they believe one of the isis terrorists who struck on friday used. in just the past couple of hours we learned french police are searching for a second suspect, possibly connected to the paris terrorist attacks along with the wanted man, of course, salah abdeslam. i want to talk with paul cruickshank. this is a fast developing story. but what do we know right now about this threat. did they find a bomb at all?
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>> well, if you look at all of language that's come in from german officials, they seem to be talking about intelligence coming in, some kind of intelligence led them to take these moves, evacuate the stadium. clearly with intelligence, it can be very, very specific, but they've got to run it down, it could come from all sorts of different sources. we don't know what type of source it might have come from. but given what happened in paris on friday, given this sort of intelligence that appears to have come in to them in some way, shape or form, they can't take any chances with the leader of germany, chancellor merkel present there. they're not going to take any chances in this sort of climate. so i think it remains to be seen what the evidence is, as the local police chief sort of talked about. we don't know what that is. clearly they want to run it down, make sure people are safe,
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given all of the terrible events. >> as you and i have talked about today, sadly, in the last few months and years, it's not uncommon for terrorists to strike in rapid succession. >> it's not uncommon. two factors here. one sort of copycat phenomenon where people get inspired by what they see in paris, absolutely electrified what they saw happening, isis supporters and there are men any in germany. there's concern there could be a broader isis conspiracy at play. i think we're seeing with isis, the different language groups, english speakers, french speakers, german speakers, to organize attacks back in their home countries. that seems to be the way they're going right now. with this in paris, it was the french and the belgium, people who climbed up the hierarchy from france and belgium within
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isis trying to organize this it appears, in recruiting youngsters and others to get involved. >> paul cruickshank, thank you. french authorities conducting more than 100 raids overnight, not only to track down the terrorists who helped pull off this carnage, but to head off any possible new attacks. >> reporter: time may be running out for this man, 26-year-old salah abdeslam, the eighth terrorist, the only one who survived friday's attacks. authorities are finding new clues. the french public learned that abdeslam and other terrorists spent time inside the hotel, south of paris, they prepared their massacre and left trail of evidence close to the residents. we are told police were here saturday, searching one or two rooms here at this budget hotel south of paris. local press reports say that police believe that abdeslam,
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one of the pair is terrorists, rented rooms here and found in the rooms pizza boxes and also materials that may have been used to make suicide vests. investigators say he rented the rooms just two days before the attacks. it makes me scared, this man tells us, because i have family i have my family in here. i have my uncle and his wife and kids. this little girl and her grandmother told us they saw the police come around 11:00 a.m. the morning after the murders. they broke down the door, she says, adding that she, too, is scared. cnn obtained these photographs showing the door to the terrorists' rooms on the fourth floor, seemingly kicked in banged up, left open more details about the attackers. this bar in the brussels suburb was registered to ibrahim who blew himself up friday. the bar was shut down for dug-related offenses eight days of about the deadly attacks.
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this morning came even more clues. this abandoned black car, discovered and linked to salah abdeslam. cnn's atika shubert was there as french police and plainclothes housed -- >> as you can see, residents very much on edge, what we believe they are doing is asking people what they saw. >> reporter: according to the french interior minister, security forces carried out at least 128 new raids just overnight, nearly one for every victim of the terror attacks. and more are sure to come. the city of light is a city on edge. earlier this evening, a bomb threat was called in against the eiffel tower. officials tell us it was a false alarm. but those policemen on the ground here are still telling us to keep away. raids continue in paris and beyond as authorities hunt for abdeslam and evidence of the horrors play out.
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those living in the towns wonder how close they may have come to the killers. we're joined by cnn's senior international correspondent, clarissa ward. thanks for joining us. major, potentially, breaking story right now. police say they have the terrorist's cell phone what happen can you tell us? >> that's right. officials are telling cnn that at one of the scenes they have found a cell phone and they do have reason to feel pretty optimistic that this might nab information. a text message on the phone saying something to the effect, okay, we are ready. we don't know who was the recipient of the attacks and who was the sender of the text but certainly police now hoping that they can really start to use this phone to drill down on any potential network that would have been involved in facilitating these attacks. of course, jake, one of the great frustrations for officials in dealing with these jihadys and isis fighters has been
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they're technologically savvy, street smart, use encrypted software, communicate through sure spot, telegram. a cell phone like this, with messages system intact potentially valble. not to mention, obviously, tremendous networks in europe, not to mention in syria and iraq, of course, but in europe, where they can reach out and get refuge, get hidden, ways to get back to syria and iraq. this could potentially help track down some people in the networks. >> exactly. try to put some missing pieces together. what we know, eighth attacker on the loose, a second suspect. looking at a cross continental network facilitating and orchestrating and helping arm these men and prepare for the attacks. >> clarissa ward. police analyze the cell phone and while the manhunt for the potential eighth isis terrorist gets more urgent by the second, a lot of the overall
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investigation is now focusing on this alleged ring leader, abdelhamid abaaoud. cnn correspondent jim sciutto here with me in paris. jim, what does u.s. intelligence say about abaaoud. >> they share the same feeling as french security sources, he was a key figure in this. what we learned today is that thhe has been on america's radar screen going back to may, warning not only about his connection of plots but planning capability for a mass casualty attack, somewhere in europe which is of course what we saw unfold on the streets of paris on friday. what we're seeing happening, not just here in france, but across europe, is a massive manhunt for other attackers who may not be found but also suspects they don't know yet. >> reporter: tonight an international manhunt is under way with raids across europe, searching for suspects known and
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unknown. police in action in germany and in france, more than 100 raids, including on the apartment of the alleged eighth paris attacker who is still on the run. and now a second unnamed suspect in the deadly rampage. >> first priority of the french authority is actually to stop a possible second attack. they want to make sure that whoever is part of the group of people, they're not also planning another attack in the coming days. >> reporter: investigators traced network behind the paris attacks the trail leads to this alleged mastermind. abdelhamid abaaoud, the belgium national believed to be hiding in syria, suspected driving force behind friday's attacks in paris. january plot in belgium to kill police officers. and failed attack on a high-speed train in august thwarted by three americans. he's been on the u.s. radar as well. department of homeland security
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intelligence assessment published in may warned that isis had developed capability to plan and carry out complex attacks in the west and noted that abaaoud appeared to fake his death to elude authorities traveling between syria and belgium with an estimated 11,000 terror suspects, french authorities say, they are simply overwhelmed. >> we don't have the number of participant to monitor 10,000 people. so intelligence and we have to improve our intelligence system to detect better detection of jihadists. that's the problem. jim sciutto, great piece we know, we heard the cia director john brennan thinks there are plans in the pipeline, that's his term in the pipeline, isis to strike in the u.s. you have breaking news. >> i spoke to a senior u.s. law
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enforcement official to dig down on exactly what director brennan was speaking about, and the senior law enforcement official told me it is not only isis aspiration to attack in the u.s. but u.s. believes that they likely have plans in the pipeline, they're plotting those attacks, laying out plans. to be clear for the audience, that does not mean a credible and specific threat they're going to attack x target on x day but believe this is not just an aspiration, that they are laying plans, groundwork and something certainly that u.s. law enforcement is taking seriously. >> and the importance of this, i think, to underline, it's not that there united states a definitive plot against the united states but months ago, intelligence and national security officials didn't think isis was capable of something like that and now re-examined what the terrorist group, evil of what they're capable. >> exactly right. you saw that even here, knew it was an aspiration for a group like isis to carry out a mass casualty attack.
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they proved that aspiration. i wouldn't say it's a sea change in the way that the u.s. looks at isis, they've been taking it seriously for some time, but clearly as they look at this group it's not just a hope for this group. they are laying groundwork, taki taking steps making plans. >> more than 100 raids foiled bomb plots not to mention series of attacks in recent weeks kill hundreds. did we transition into a new phase of the war on isis? what's the strategy going forward? we'll ask the man put in charge of the global cool tloigs destroy the terrorist group, next. if i want to go up... hello. if i want to go down... nooo... but, then if i want to come back again... yes. it's perfect. and there you have it. (vo) and now through december 1st save hundreds on select tempur-pedic mattresses
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ready, unquote. counterterror and intelligence officials tell cnn, that chilling message was found on a cell phone, sources believe belonged to one of the paris terrorists. that cell phone could theoretically help investigators fill in the glaring gap about how it is that isis terrorists managed to conceal their plans from police, from intelligence, from the national security apparatus. france responded to the terror with it bombs in raqqah, syria. how does last week's night of horror change the equation in the larger war against isis? joining me now to discuss this, bret mcguirk, the president's special presidential envoy to the coalition in fight against isis. thanks for being here. appreciate it. just, frankly put, do these attacks on france, the bloodiest day in france since world war ii, does this make your job any
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easier in terms of rallying support and getting other countries to get more skin in the game to take on isis? >> well, jake we're near paris, i came here with secretary kerry for meetings with president hollande, senior french officials, express our sincere condolences for the terrible attacks on the victim and express our resolve for the global coalition as we stand with france as they respond to the attacks. >> they did respond, right? they bombed raqqah. >> well, the minute after these attacks happened, just a few hours afterwards president obama convened his national security team and we said immediately we'll do all we can to help our french partners, oldest ally in the world to respond we came from paris -- we were in turkey for the g20, you felt a sense with the world leaders the world's galvanized against the threat. that's what it's going to take. a global challenge, foreign fighters are pouring into syria from a hundred countries around
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the world. we have made some inroads but the world is galvanized more. we'll do all we can to defeat and destroy this barbaric terrorist organization. a couple weeks before the attack we went on offense in areas of syria, northern iraq we took back main road linkage between mosul and raqqah. they were successful, we cut off that main road linkage. we're putting u.s. special forces to enable a push on raqqah, isolate daesh and isis in raqqah. we're going to do all we can to take the fight to isil. and the conversations with france was about to how help them respond and they're doing air strikes in raqqah as we speak. >> one of the questions i got, after i reported on the friend. air strikes against raqqah, targets there were 15 targets, recruiting center, training center, one of the questions i got was, why wasn't the u.s. already hitting these sites, as it's been reported, and the pentagon has said, it's about
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seven sorties a day against isis in syria, more in iraq. sometimes the jets come back and still have their bombs because they haven't been given permission to drop them. why hadn't the u.s. already hit the sites? >> we're doing air strikes in raqqah almost every day. four, five days ago we did a target operation against jihady john, based upon intelligence sharing with our partners. we think that was a very effective operation. we going to continue striking in rock cap we focused last couple of weeks on supporting forces in the ground. the special forces, as he went into sinjar, almost 40 strikes in a day. you see air strikes significantly intensify. i think you're going to see an intensification, french are moving charles de gaulle air strike carrier, we're moving a-10s, a-15s to pressure daesh, ice until its last remaining stretch of territory in the
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turkish border. president obama discussed that three days ago. bottom line, we have made progress over last year taking back 25% of the territory that isil controlled a year ago. we've set a foundation to accelerate those efforts. make no mistake, we're going it defeat these guys, decimate them with the international foreign fighter networks as they try to cross international borders. >> what's your response when you hear public officials and ex-military officials say the rule of engagement are too strict, the u.s. is so worried about any possible civilian casualties that they're letting bad guys get away? is that possibly true? >> well, we're careful. we don't want to, you know, collateral damage is something that matters to us. we have to mobilize local population to fight. so we have been very careful. but i think that criticism is really misguided. we're very focused on making sure our strikes are effective. two days ago, jake, a lot of talk about the fuel truck as it
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continue to fuel, again, phony caliphate, between mosul and raqqah, we have begun to hit the trucks, we hit 116 the other day, and focus on economic infrastructure. why are we doing that now? why didn't we do it before? it takes a while to develop intelligence we need to have a granular picture so when we do air strikes they're effective. the intelligence we have now against the economic infrastructure came from a special forces operation that our guys did going into syria, very difficult operation to target abu sigh ef, number one funne financier of isil. we know a lot more against isil now and we're putting that intel against to use. and as president obama announced a few weeks ago, we're going to put more special forces into northern iraq to do more of these operations, get more intelligence, intensify our pressure against these terrorists. >> you say that the u.s. and the coalition has taken back 25% of the land isis has seized in the
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last year, they do seem to be expanding globally. you have russian passenger jet, the bombings in beirut, obviously horrific attacks here, possibly something else going on in germany right nower we're still looking into that. the american people are home and they are afraid. they are afraid that isis is going to hit them there. what do you tell them? >> it's a terrorist organization, and we have to all we can to bring the entire world behind us as we move to defeat them, destroy the networks and share information with our friends to cut down the foreign fighter blows. we've have been effective at home. secretary kerry mentioned today we have broken up plots, of course goes unreported, we don't talk about that, because it leads to more information to break up more plots. we are vigilant on that side of the fight. we are going to be aggressive and intensifying our fight in iraq and syria and of course in the broader region. but this is going to be a
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long-term challenge. the thing about paris, why we're here to express solidarity with the french people and our partners and friends, what we felt in turkey with the g-20, the world now really is galvanized to take this threat with the utmost seriousness and basically decimate and suffocate the networks. that means in iraq, syria, but also globally. we've got to share more information, target foreign fighter flows and that's what we're going to done last year we have had 40 countries pass aggressive laws to cut down on networks. what we are doing through the coalition, we set up a structure to share information rapidly. coordinate efforts to collapse the foreign fighter networks. that's something we're working to do. we have more information now about these networks than we did before. it not enough. we have to work even harder. that's why we signed with information new information sharing agreement yesterday. so, this is just really difficult but we are going to do everything we can to defeat and decimate these networks not only
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powerful midair explosion. >> that's right. as one expert put it, it demonstrates the terrorists' intent for no one to survive. i. >> reporter: for the first time russia revealed the cause of the metrojet crash, a home made bomb. president vladimir putin vowed swift retaliation. >> translator: we need to know all of the perpetrators by name. we will search for them everywhere, wherever they are hiding. we will find them in any spot on the planet and we will punish them. >> reporter: russian investigators say the explosive had the force of about two pounds of tnt. explosive experts tell cnn, that's more than enough to blow a plane out of the sky. >> 2.2 pounds, that's a fairly substantial amount of material. if we could determine what the explosive material was that was employed, was to be able to run that through screening and enshoe our algorithms intuned to
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find that material. >> reporter: that amount could fit in a shoe box. british and american intelligence officials say they had intelligence pointing to a bomb just days after the downing. leading to speculation it was an inside job at sharm el sheikh airport where the flight took off. >> tsa must step up oversight of both federal and private sector employees responsible for screening and other important jobs in the nation's airports. the stakes are too height not to do so. >> reporter: on capitol hill, aviation suppoat airports was a concern. tsa screeners at select airports failed to detect fake explosives and weapons 95% of the time. members of of congress pushed for tougher vetting for the nearly 1 million airport workers who have access to some of the most secure areas of the airport and aircraft. >> absolute fact that employees get much less screening at airports than travelers do, and
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once again, have secure access to airports without additional screening. >> i can tell you, we are also monitoring something here right in the united states. there's some activity at chicago o'hare airport, we understand from authorities, that they are investigating something suspicious in terminal 3 at chicago o'hare. it is not clear exactly what they are looking for. but there is a police presence there. of course, jake, it goes without saying with all of the events happening in beirut, paris, now this news about what happened to this russian passenger plane, the aviation industry very much on edge. >> i'm sure, rene marsh, thank you. the horrific attacks in paris could provide hints into what isis may be planning in the united states. and that, of course, has u.s. officials worried, u.s. officials scrambling. we'll talk about how, next.
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welcome back to "the lead," i'm jake tapper, live from paris, france. back in the united states, local state and federal law enforcement officials are increasing anti-terror measures, as fears and concerns grow over the possibility of an isis terrorist attack on the nation's capital or elsewhere. police in washington, d.c., are beefing up patrols across the city and cnn has learned that the new york police department sent an additional three detectives here to paris to gather more information on the explosive devices used friday night. let's get right to cnn national security correspondent deborah feyerick. cia director john brennan, earlier today, said that more attacks are likely, quote/unquote, in the pipeline. do you know, do your sources know, of any current, credible threats from isis against the united states homeland? >> well you, know, right now the great fear is, obviously, isis is aspiring to hit the united states. and the director of the cia,
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john brennan, alluded to the fact there are multiple plots that might be in the pipe line. what's of such concern what happened. paris took not weeks but months to plan. so the discovery, as you mentioned earlier, the cell phone could have even the smallest clues that could help officials here in the united states identify some sort of a plot. >> reporter: with isis now threatening to strike the united states -- >> we will strike america and its stronghold, washington. >> reporter: -- the police chief is making sure all threats are run to ground. >> my philosophy is, no matter the level of credibility, we have to act as if yef one is credible the first time you take those things for granted it could be a mistake. >> reporter: u.s. officials are analyzing the paris attacks in minute detail. the fbi dispatching special agents to help the french any way they can but also identify any intelligence that could foreshadow a plot against the u.s. >> at there is time, we're trying to just get any information that might tie us
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back to the city that we might have to conduct any further investigation. >> reporter: at the paris command center, three nypd detectives have been attending briefings and reporting back. nypd officials trying to learn as much as they can about the suicide bombs. how they were built, and deadnated. traces of the explosive have been recovered from the paris crime scene, according to french official. that's a big concern to law enforcement as similar explosives were used in the plot against the new york city subway 2009. that plot was uncovered. but in paris, the seven suicide bombers were able to stay below the radar. >> we seek to understand what are they retrieving from seven assailants remains they recover ared what device were they using for communication, what smart phone what apps possibly on the phone. >> reporter: the paris attacks were well organized. the cia director warning about external operations, concerns about isis' ability to launch
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attacks outside its stronghold in syria and iraq. this appears to be the second cell organized by isis central under the command of the ring leader, a belgium national. in january, belgium commandos raided an isis safe house, killing two operatives, taking a third into custody. inside, weapons, fake documents, precursor kel cals to make tapt. authorities are looking at similarities in both plots attempting to gain additional intelligence to possibly stop another attack from happening. one of the ways u.s. intelligence is being aggressive in hindsight, they do appear to have been warnings that something in europe was under way. jake? >> deb feyerick, things so much for the report. as law enforcement works to prevent an attack on the u.s. homeland, the u.s. military is in a fight against isis overseas. we will talk about how concerned
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. coming to you live from paris, right at the place de la republique where a makeshift memorial has come up with candles and flowers. meanwhile, international dragnet is under way for two isis terrorists linked to friday's horrific attacks, this, as french officials recovered a cell phone believed to have belonged to one of the terrorists. it could provide theoretically a treasure trove of intelligence. joining me, republican senator tom cotton of the armed services committee, also a veteran of the
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wars in both iraq and afghanistan. senator cotton, thanks, as always, for being here. how concerned are do you think americans should be about an isis terrorist attack in the united states? >> jake, i think they should be very concerned. the islamic state has capability to strike outside iraq and syria. in the last two weeks they've apparently blown up a russian aircraft out of egypt, killed dozens in beirut and now hoover 100 in paris. the leader of the islamic state held in detention in iraq by the united states military in the middle of the last decade. when released he reportedly said, i'll seal you in new york. that tells you all you need know about their intentions. one of the reasons we can't fight the war on terror on our turf or in europe. we have to take the fight to them in iraq and syria. >> the mastermind of this attack is believed to be in syria right now, fighting with isis.
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does the u.s., anti-isis coalition have any ability to track him now? >> well jake as you heard it's increasingly hard to track what the terrorists are doing because they're using encryption devices and tying hands of our intelligence professionals. earlier this year we made changes to the patriot act that i believe were unwise. that's why i introduced legislation that would extend tradition of the patriot act and national security agency from untested and unproven system that's going to happen any day until beginning of next year so the president can certify we're not going down a road without defenses we need to obtain terrorist information to the best extent possible. >> what are you specifically referring to the ban on techniques commonly referred to as torture or enhanced interrogation techniques. >> no, earlier this year
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congress modified the patriot act to prohibit the national security agency from collecting metadata. >> the nsa wiretaps. >> that's not the content of calls, it's not personally identify identification, it dur reag, number of calls and the number doing the calling and data and time. think day we'll make transition to untested, unproven system. i don't think it's the time to go into the untested environment. we should know for sure our intelligent professionals have the very best tools they can to intercept as much terrorist communications as possible. >> okay. thanks for clarifying, senator. 30 states right now, governors refusing to take in any syrian refugees due to what they believe is a security risk, not enough vetting though the obama administration is insisting there's more vetting going on for these refugees than any other immigrant. you have called for a moratorium on this program.
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you -- i don't need to tell you about the fact that when decisions are made with big national security issues like this, there's often secondary effects and beyond. obviously, refugee camps can be breeding ground for extremism. could this not be a decision that ends up being a bad decision on the back end, even worse than letting refugees? >> well, jake, the very worst would be a terrorist slipping through the vetting procedure and killing americans on our own soil. that's why i've called for a temporary halt not permanent ban but temporary halt, so we can take stock in the procedures the obama administration proposed ultimately letting in refugees into europe or the united states is not going to solve the problem i'm was in the largest refugee camp in jordan on the syrian border. i met with young syrian families. 20 million syrians don't want to leave their countries, they want one syrian to leave, al assad, the dictate who are started the civil war and created the
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environment that led to the ride of the state. that's where u.s. policy needs to focus, along with destroying the islamic state. the refugees are a symptom. we have to go to the root of the disease, bashar al assad. >> senator tom cotton, thanks so much. how can the united states government cure the syrian refugees are not really isis imposters? that's next. if i want to go up... hello. if i want to go down... nooo... but, then if i want to come back again... yes. it's perfect. and there you have it. (vo) and now through december 1st save hundreds on select tempur-pedic mattresses and adjustable bases. change to tempur-pedic. ...are taking charge of their acrotype 2 diabetes...... ...with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar. but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. he said victoza® works differently than pills. and comes in a pen. victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c.
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joining me now, cnn's tom foreman. once again, our nation is divided over immigration. these states that are denying refugees from syria, do they have the legal authority to do so? >> they don't have authority to stop it but they have political capability of making it a whole lot harder. >> reporter: as the flow of refugees from syria has become a flood, and european countries are overwhelmed across the ocean comes the question, how many will america take? the answer, from more than half of the nation's governors, almost all republicans, none. >> how can you do a background check on somebody, extensive from someone coming from syria where you have a completely divided government? >> reporter: alabama's governor suggest many major threats since 9/11 have direct links to refugees. >> not necessarily all but the major threats that have been stopped, those individuals came out of refugee programs.
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>> reporter: the facts do not bear that out. since the war started u.s. government data shows 2200 syrian refugees allowed into america, majority children or elderly. the white house says 10,000 will be taken in next year, all will be subjected to more rigorous screenings than any other migrants, a process that could take two years or considerably more per refugee. that's enough to calm many democratic governors. >> no one's taking a raft from turkey to the united states. it's a very different process. we are not being overwhelmed by large numbers of folks. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, democratic presidential contender hillary clinton -- >> we can't act as though we're shutting the doors to people in need without undermining who we are as americans and values we have stood for. >> reporter: online, social
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media aflame with people pointing ow the late steve jobs was the son of a syrian migrant. still, once refugees get legal status, like any other americans they can go where they please. paul ryan, new speaker of the republican-controlled house, is urging a pause in the refugee program until more safeguards can be considered. >> this is not about politics. this is about national security. >> reporter: the white house has noted, even as some states object, immigration is a federal matter, and only the feds can decide who gets into the country, when and where. that said, the administration is planning a conference call with many of the governors who object try to convince them to get on board. jake? >> tom, there certainly does seem to be, at least a disconnect in the communication of those who are supporting this influx of syrian refugees. explaining the program, explaining the vetting, explaining that they share the
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concerns of the public that is concerned about this. >> yeah. all truth, jake, both sides have the same concerns, very different approaches. jake? >> tom foreman, thank you so much. be sure to follow me on face and twitter or tweet the show. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. turning you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." happening now, breaking news, explosive plot, german police evacuate a stadium before an international soccer match, citing intelligence that someone wanted to set off a bomb inside. players are rushed to a safe place. germany's chancellor and top officials they were due to attend the match. new suspect, french police step up security sweeps looking for a second possible suspect in addition to this man, dangerous fugitive. new information about where the terrorists stayed and how they may have constructed their bomb