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any active isis organization, they are just bad people and were inspired. >> absolutely. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much. really appreciate it. that is it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." good-bye from france. happening now, breaking news. expanding manhunt. a worldwide search for the eighth terrorist in the paris attacks as france confirms the mastermind was killed in an extraordinary raid. and now shocking new video of the massacre emerging amid more raids and more arrests. does it show the man who's become one of the world's most wanted terrorists. new threat, isis vows a fiery attack on the white house. and a paris-style massacre in rome prompting a warning from the u.s. embassy there. does a new isis video foreshadow the next attack? second mastermind, new details tonight about a senior french figure in isis whose voice is heard on the terrorist video claiming responsibility for the paris massacre. how closely did he work with the cell that carried out the terror
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attacks? and global coalition. as air strikes continue on isis targets in syria, france has now trying to assemble an international alliance to fight the terrorist forces. can france unite russia and the u.s. in the battle against isis? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. we're following the breaking news. the manhunt for the eighth terrorist in the paris attacks, salah abdelsalam, and this video of the attacks obtained by dailymail.com showing a gunman spraying a cafe with bullets and customers scrambling for safety. in one chilling scene the gunman approaches a woman near the door and aims at her, but the weapon appears to jam and the gunman walks off. france has confirmed that the mastermind of the attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud, was killed in a raid in a paris suburb.
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and now french officials say he appears to have been involved in as many as six foiled terror attacks since the spring. a counterterrorism source tells cnn that abaaoud is believed to have spent time in syria working with a senior french figure in isis, fabien clain plotting attacks in france. clain's voice is heard in the isis video claiming responsibility for the paris massacre. and terror fears are now spreading tonight with a new isis video warning of attacks in rome prompting the u.s. embassy there to issue a warning. the same video threatens to burn down the white house in washington. we're covering all angles of the breaking news this hour with our guests including senate intelligence committee member mark warner. and our correspondents and our expert analysts they're also standing by. let's go to paris first though. cnn's john berman is on the scene for us. john, the manhunt and the raids they clearly continue tonight. >> wolf, tonight the french prime minister told the people
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here it is probable. there are still active terrorist cells at work in this country. in fact, we know there is at least one terrorist who was involved in the attacks here friday who is still on the run. salah abdelsalam. this comes as in belgium there were a series of raids today leading to the detention of nine people believed to be somehow associated to these attacks. and all of this taking place in the wake of the single greatest success since the attacks here, the death of the man believed to be the ringleader. tonight abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. the architect, the planner, the mastermind of the terror attacks in paris that left 129 people dead and scores wounded. french officials confirmed he was killed in this predawn raid just outside paris. police and military commandos assaulted this building in saint-denis after a tip from morocco that abaaoud was not in isis controlled syria but inside
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france. wiretaps indicated that a relative was at that location along with a possible terror cell plotting a new attack. new audio tonight of the moment police confront a woman later identified as abaaoud's cousin inside the building. soon after an explosion as she appeared to set off a suicide vest. new information tonight about the scale of the assault. more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition fired during the melee. the explosive force enough to cause an entire floor to collapse. abaaoud's bullet riddled body only identifiable through hand and footprints. tonight, the investigation is far from over with abaaoud dead there is new focus on other attackers. 26-year-old salah abdelsalam last seen headed toward the belgium border in the hours after the attacks, is still on
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the run. new raids in belgium targeted possible associates of the attackers. and tonight nine people have been detained. the sheer terror of friday's events evident in video from inside one of the targeted restaurants obtained by the daily mail. you see debris, shattered glass flying, people run for cover and a gunman points his weapon at two people on the ground but it does not fire. tonight the united states and european governments trying to assess new isis threats including a new video threatening attacks on rome. >> all right, we have breaking news here tonight, wolf. just moments ago french officials confirmed the identity of the woman who blew herself up apparently wearing some kind of suicide vest, the woman believed to be the cousin of abdelhamid
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abaaoud, her name is hasn hasna buolasin she recently lived in neighborhoods surrounding france -- surrounding paris, i should say. and tonight her mother and brother have been taken into custody by police. that just in from the prosecutor's office here in paris, wolf. >> john berman on the scene for us. thanks very much. let's stay in paris. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is there. jim, you're learning more about this new isis video released today, the threats not only against rome but right here in washington, d.c. as well. >> well, we're seeing them churning out video really every day now since these attacks. they know that the eyes of the world are on them following the bloodshed here on the streets of paris. so you have two videos, one focusing on rome, one focusing on the white house. the third to target a u.s. city or a u.s. target this week. and we see the u.s. embassy in rome issue something of a
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general warning to people there mentioning a couple of targets. they mention st. peter's basilica, the duomo in milan. restaurants, theaters, hotels in both cities, that's a very general warning. they don't have a credible or specific threat. they are talking about the kinds of things that a group like isis might target based in part on what they saw them target here. and that's a difficult kind of information frankly for travelers to digest, i imagine, because it's quite a general warning. but really these warnings being released in an abundance of caution. let's look now at this latest video from isis threatening an attack on the white house. and i should add there's nothing to indicate they actually have something in the works to attack the white house. but here's what they said in yet one more threatening video. france, we started with you, and we'll finish it with a so-called white house and we'll turn it black from our fires, god willing, as always they're good
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with the rhetorical turn of phrase, but the trouble is with these while there may be no evidence of a credible threat or a plot in the works, there's always the potential that you have lone wolfs on the ground or in the u.s. or elsewhere in europe who watch these videos and inspired to carry out an attack on their own. that's the threat european intelligence is often facing. sadly it's not specific and makes it very difficult to prepare for and to prevent. >> and they also in that latest warning released today in that propaganda video, jim, as you know they went onto say they wanted to blow up monuments in washington. and they pointed to the fact that they had blown up archaeological treasures, museums, monuments in syria and in iraq for that matter. they say they want to do the same thing to all sorts of monuments in washington, d.c. james comey, the fbi director, just had a briefing. and he said what really concerns them right now, and you know
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this, is that there are these lone individuals out there who may be inspired when they go to social media and look at these videos. that's a real problem, isn't it? >> absolutely. because, you know, a plot while very difficult to prechbt prevent, we saw that here in paris, involving a number of countries, international travel, that's hard enough to follow. but if an individual decides in his basement on a jihadi forum to go buy a gun and shoot up a target, that's virtually impossible to prevent or spot in advance. that's the duel threat in effect that u.s. law enforcement, u.s. counterterror officials are facing right now. >> jim sciutto in paris for us. thank you. let's talk about all of this and more. joining us the democratic senator mark warner of virginia, he's a key member of the senate intelligence committee. senator, i know you've just emerged from a closed door briefing there with the secretary of state, other u.s. officials. how serious are they taking these specific threats to washington, d.c. and new york? >> well, i think we're all
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taking all of the threats very seriously. while officials have said there is no indication of validity of the specificness of these threats, what we've seen is the acts of violence. and now we're seeing in effect psychological warfare being waged by isis as they put out these threatening videos on the daily basis. so what i believe we need to do, one our most important job is of course keeping americans safe. two, it's formulating a strategy both around how we go after the terrorists in terms of enhanced intelligence collecting, better sharing with our allies. we talk about the tragedy of what happened on paris. but we do need to point out the french activities preventing another terrorist attack by swooping in on some of the folks around paris, activities by the belgium law enforcement officials, even activities in honduras. so intelligence sharing is still our best weapon against these terrorists. at the same time we do need to take a look at our vulnerabilities.
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there's a lot of focus now on refugees when frankly the issue ought to be the visa waiver program. we ought to look at how the terrorists are communicating and some of the questions around encryption. these are going to require some thoughtful responses not some of the sound bites we've heard over the last couple days. >> so they mention though in these videos one released yesterday sort of a remix of an earlier rap video they put out in april, but with some new material on it. another video today, yesterday they were going after specific locations, times square, herald square in manhattan. today they're going -- they say they want to burn the white house and destroy monuments in washington, d.c. would that justify from all the briefings you've received, senator, heightened state of alert in new york and washington? >> well, i think you're seeing local law enforcement increase their level of readiness. but we've also seen the fbi director say that they don't have credible information about the specificity of some of these threats. clearly with social media now isis can put out these kind of videos on a daily basis.
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and i suspect we'll see more. let's face it we've seen since paris and appropriately so the media has been wall-to-wall on this kind of coverage. and folks all across the country, i know across virginia, are concerned. and what i'm hopeful is those of us entrusted with political leadership can be perhaps a little bit more thoughtful about how we are going to address some of these issues rather than kind of rushing to the canvas. for example, we've got an enormous challenge around what's called the visa waiver program. this is a program basically allows americans to travel to europe and europeans to travel here on a relatively easy basis. that's economically important. it's important for tourism. but you look deeper on that and within europe you see 10 million folks with european passports travel to turkey over the last year. a year ago i contacted the administration and said turkey needs to do a better job of monitoring fighters coming in the region. we don't know how many of those 10 million ended up on the beach versus ended up going into the war zone.
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and frankly they can then go back to france or go back to belgium and relatively easy climb on an airplane and come to america. that's where we ought to be looking on things that we can tighten up and red flag those individuals who've traveled into the region and see where we can increase our cooperation with interp interpol. that's really about making america safer against these threats. >> senator warner, we have many more specific questions for you because there's obviously heightened concern, heightened interest here in the united states, indeed around the world on what's going on. much more with senator warner when we come back. the markets change, at t. rowe price, our disciplined investment approach remains. we ask questions here. look for risks there. and search for opportunity everywhere. global markets may be uncertain.
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ncht we're back with the senate intelligence committee member mark warner. we're following the breaking news, france confirming now that the paris terror mastermind abdelhamid abaaoud was killed in that extraordinary raid in a paris suburb. but there's also grave concern tonight about his associates including one of the top french men inside isis. cnn's brian todd is digging deeper for us. these are extremely dangerous individuals. >> they are extremely dangerous. abdelhamid abaaoud is said to have closely to them. they are believed to be hiding in syria, but their networks inside france are extensive. with the death of abdelhamid
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abaaoud, french officials believe a terrorist menace has been removed from their midst, but a new warning tonight. the french interior minister says authorities are investigating abaaoud's links to several other known jihadists, who may have worked on the plot and are still out there. european security officials tell cnn one of them is fabien clain, a notorious french militant claimed responsibility in an audio message for the paris attacks. >> translator: paris shook under their feet and the streets were tight upon them. amen to allah is all praise and gratitude. >> fabien clain settled in the southern french city of toulouse and developed an extraordinary talent for persuasion. >> somebody that's extremely manipulative, somebody extremely good at brainwashing youngsters in the toulouse area, somebody ten years older than abdelhamid
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abaaoud. so someone likely that abdelhamid abaaoud would have looked up to within the isis hierarc hierarchy. >> a close associate of muhammad mira, the gunman who killed several french soldiers and jewish school children in 2012. >> salim seems to have been the person to whom abaaoud served an apprentice. affiliated with the external operations network amongst french speakers. he's known to be a fairly skilled operative. >> once convicted of murder in france is according to the state department an isis executioner. analysts say he had close ties to the brothers who stormed the "charlie hebdo" offices in january killing a dozen people. in an isis video made shortly after those attacks, he had a warning for the west. >> translator: we have also come to strike you. and we are already there to attack you.
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>> analysts say they are good at training french operatives quickly. >> a number of french speakers who join isis are individuals who only spend a couple of weeks in syria learning to do something, whether it's to prepare for a suicide attack, learning basic arms training and so forth. and then go back. >> and experts say they have ambitions beyond france and the ability to travel. they say many of the french isis militants have european passports without visa restrictions and can easily come to the u.s., wolf. >> brian, one of those men actually plotted to attack that bataclan concert hall before last friday night. >> apparently, yes, wolf. analysts say this man, fabien clain plotted to attack the bataclan in 2009 because he believed the owners were part of a zionist movement. that never materialized and then convicted of recruiting young militants to al qaeda in iraq. he served jail time then. could be he and his circle wanted to attack the bataclan on friday because of the previous failed attempt at the theater
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six years ago. >> that's where that concert on last friday night an american rock band was performing there and nearly 100 young people were massacred by those terrorists. brian, thanks very much. senator warner, does the intelligence community here in the united states have any idea where this guy fabien clain, the co-mastermind of these paris attacks is right now? >> i'm not going to comment on what the intel community knows about specific terrorists. i do know that in many ways that i believe part of the reason some of these activities have taken place and part of the reason we've not had the information sharing over the last few years is partially attributable to the revelations edward snowden made a few years ago. we saw after that incident european allies and many of them pull back from information sharing. we saw whole move in the technology space, the move to encrypted communications. again, there are so many causations around this tragedy, around this kind of both violent
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extremism and psychological warfare that frankly when we even show some of these videos is being waged upon all americans, but what we ought to get to as policymakers is how do we get to the root causes? how do we increase intelligence sharing? how do we make sure we look at these vulnerabilities like the visa waiver program not in a way that curtails travel between america, europe and the economic ties but puts an appropriate red flag if people have traveled into the war region. look at areas where we can engage with our not just communication or technology companies. i was a tech guy before i was in politics. this can't be solved in america only in terms of encryption now. you're adding 1,500 mobile apps a day, many of them with encryption, many of them based out of foreign countries. these are the areas that are going to require i think serious policy review. and frankly if we can move away from some of the shrillness and get onto these issues i think it would be appropriate. >> fair point indeed. senator, as you know residents of that paris suburb saint-denis
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they have told cnn that they actually saw this so-called mastermind abdelhamid abaaoud in the neighborhood following the attack, following the friday night attack before that raid which eventually saw him wind up dead. what does that say about how much these individuals can move around? apparently the french didn't even know this guy was in france until a few days ago. >> we've seen the french intelligence services stretched so dramatically. again, as i mentioned by your earlier colleague, literally folks with french passports can travel over land into turkey or into the region and oftentimes travel back. and the french services actually had a number of these people on their potential watch list, but they hasn't triggered anything that would actually cause their arrest. i think a lot of that is going to be reviewed at this point. i think if we had increased
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sharing, you're better able to build the case in advance of these terrorists acting as opposed to what unfortunately weave seen now in france coming in after the fact. but i do think we need to bear in mind that the french services did go ahead and procollulude yesterday. >> senator, the house of representatives today overwhelmingly approved legislation with significant democratic support as well to effectively pause the processing of syrian refugees into the united states by insisting no refugee be admitted without certification by the secretary of homeland security. will you support this bill when it comes to the senate? >> wolf, i think this bill is an overreaction. clearly we have to keep americans safe. but let's look at the facts. none of these terrorists have been identified as migrants. our process right now takes about two years for someone to
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go through a series of screenings. if there are ways to improve that process, i'm absolutely believe we should improve the process, but we ought to let the law enforcement and intelligence professionals give us this guidance. not a series of actions that may or may not result in safety for americans. let's look at clear vulnerabilities as i mentioned before this visa waiver program. which we shouldn't throw out by the way. that is important to economic relations between us and europe. but we should re-review at this point because if you're a terrorist you can use that european passport and potenti potentially have much more freedom of travel as opposed to someone waiting two or three years may not be admitted as a refugee. >> senator warner, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> coming up, still on the run. the expanding manhunt for a surviving attacker, possibly the gunman seen in this frightening security camera. video released by
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we're following today's fast moving developments in the aftermath of the paris terror attacks. a new is es threat not only includes new york but also rome and washington, d.c. where the terrorists are promising to burn
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the white house and in their words turn it black. belgium arrested nine people today as the manhunt continues there for plotters. and the only attacker who escaped possibly the gunman seen in this dramatic security camera video obtained by thedailymail.com showing people dodging gunfire in a paris restaurant. also, new questions are being asked about the missed signals that allowed the now-dead mastermind of the latest attacks to slip into paris undetected. our justice correspondent pamela brown has the unsettling new details. pamela. >> well, wolf, tonight we're learning from sources that the mastermind of the paris attacks had been on a u.s. watch list based on intelligence given to the u.s. from european counterparts. but the concern tonight continues for any of his associates who may still be in europe including one of the paris attackers still at large. tonight, dramatic new images of french and belgium police in battle just moments before the mastermind of the paris attacks is killed in a predawn raid in
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saint-denis. [ gunfire ] abdelhamid abaaoud's body riddled with bullets was identified by police through fingerprints. >> translator: in the operation of saint-denis there was a target, and it was reached. abdelhamid abaaoud clearly played a definite role in the attack on paris. >> reporter: abaaoud was hiding out with multiple well-armed men and a female cousin who could be heard in this video screaming back to police just seconds before she blows herself up. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: police use interviews, wiretaps and bank wires to zero in. police learned it was morocco intelligence that tipped him off being in france, not syria. >> there were a whole lot of terrorist operatives who would be able to move back and forth between syria and europe, passing through security along the way at multiple points.
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>> reporter: french authorities say abaaoud played a role in four of six foiled terror plots since the spring. included in the attack on the training in which three americans helped wrestle the gunman to the ground. also tonight chilling video from dailymail.com shows a scene from the paris attacks playing out in realtime inside a cafe, glass shatters after a gunman opens fire outside. he can be seen pointing his gun at two civilians, but they escape. belgium authorities say they just arrested nine people tied to this man, one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up at the stadium in france. but french officials say at least two of the alleged attackers are still on the run including salah abdelsalam, the 26-year-old brother of one of the paris attackers. >> the fact that abdelsalam is on the loose is worrying. it appears authorities do have trouble with people who are able to travel about even when they're wanted at top levels by
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european law enforcement. >> reporter: and after a thorough review of intelligence shared from the french with the americans including information from the cell phone believed to belong to one of the paris attackers, director james comey saying today that there is no u.s. nexus as of now. of course the director of the fbi also, wolf, saying there is no credible threat against the homeland, wolf. >> pamela, thanks very much. also today france's prime minister revealed some of those linked to the paris attacks took advantage of the chaos surrounding the ongoing refugee crisis to sneak into europe. let's get some more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. he's joining us from paris once again. what are you hearing, jim, on this front? >> that's right. it's the french prime minister who said that some of the attackers might have slipped in via the influx of refugees to really get back and forth from europe to syria because the fact is that all of the attackers that have been identified so far we know to be europeans themselves. they're french and belgium.
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the fact is they were already here -- they were from here. in fact, the evidence says they were radicalized here, already joined the cause in effect here in europe. but we also know that they went to join the fight, at least six of the attackers in syria, and then returned here and were certainly trained it appears in syria. and you can tell that from just the way they used their weapons, how quickly they moved and reloaded sochlt that syria training making a difference. and it is believed some of them to get back to europe from their fight in syria might have come through with those crowds of refugees. but the truth is, and you hear this from european security officials frequently, is the problem is here. they've got a major jihadi problem in this country. and one revelation of these attacks on friday is that regardless of their movements to syria and back, they're having trouble just tracking them moving around europe. and communicating in europe. a senior u.s. law enforcement official told me the two problems are, one, volume, and
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encrypti encryption. and that's something you hear frequently. but just the numbers here, wolf, really almost impossible to manage. >> jim sciutto, standby. we're going to get back to you. joining us now in "the situation room" our national security analyst peter bergen, our law enforcement analyst the former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and our cnn contributor michael weiss, senior editor for the daily beast, co-author of the book "isis ninsided army of terror." gentlemen, standby for a moment. we're getting some information coming into "the situation room." we'll take a quick break. more on the breaking news after this. (vo) what does the world run on?
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we're following breaking news late this afternoon. the director of the fbi urged all americans to be aware of potential threats and let law enforcement know if they see anything suspicious. new isis video not only threatens new york city, but also washington, d.c., rome and other world cities. we're back with our terrorism and law enforcement experts. michael weiss, there's new isis video out today which they say they want to target the white house. yesterday they said they want to target new york city. is isis really capable of these kinds of attacks within the united states? >> i'd be very surprised if they could get the white house, wolf. although then again, you know, given the number of people who've been able to jump fences over there and drive cars through checkpoints, you never know. but they absolutely do have the intention to strike in the u.s. homeland. this has been, you know, part of their strategy from the very beginning. they mention rome i think for a
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very clear reason. abu bakr al baghdadi, the leader of isis mentioned in one of his sermons about a year ago if god wills it, one day we will conquer rome. so for them by the way they describe their enemy in the west as rather loose consortium of atheist, seculars, jews and christians as the armies of rome. this is part of their apocalyptic vision. they think the army of islam will fight the armies of rome in the suburbs of aleppo and this will usher in armageddon. so they're picking these targets in this latest video, or picking these sort of aspirational targets with a clear intention. and of course, look, they're trying to traumatize and terrorize. and the proper understanding of the word, the u.s. electorate. travel in this country has slowed down significantly. i just came from detroit, michigan. there were incredible delays, people are going through all the security checkpoint theater that you associate in the wake of a devastating attack. and, i mean, look at the track
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record thus far. ankara, more than 100 people dead, the metrojet sharm el sheikh bombing over 200 people dead, beirut, the worst terror attack in lebanon since the close of the civil war there in 1 19 1990. and now this atrocious attack op the streets of paris. they could already have something plan ds and we don't know what it is. >> tom fuentes, former director of the fbi, abdelhamid abaaoud is now dead, but he was the so-called mastermind of this. he's a belgium citizen of moroccan ancestry. he went to syria last year to fight with isis. but until monday french authorities didn't know he was actually back in france even though apparently neighbors in that area where he was hiding out spotted him. how do you explain that? >> you can go anywhere in europe without going through passport control. when you get to turkey, if you can get smuggled into turkey, which is not hard. they have a giant network of people to get you there. there's large part of the turkish border that's uncontrolled. it's not guarded.
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they could go across into syria. nothing is going to be stamped on your passport that you ever went to syria. so you go back, you can either go by boat from greece or through turkey. go back into greece, get on a bus or train and go all the way back to france or belgium, no one's ever going to know. it's not going to be in your documents. you don't need travel documents to move across europe. >> here's what worries u.s. officials and french officials for that matter is he may have had a network of supporters out there. there's a cell still at large in paris or in the suburbs there that had been helping him. they're trying to figure out who these people are. >> i think it would be very unusual if there wasn't a cell or a network. we still don't really know who the bomb maker is. we don't really know who was financing this. there are a lot of unanswered questions. >> presumably there are suspects still at large. michael, you interviewed a man who was identified as an isis defector and he told you that isis shifted tactics after losing that battle for kobani, and encouraging attacks all over
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the world. explain a little bit more what he told you. >> well, isis has always had sort of two objectives. one was what they refer to as remaining and expanding, that is the construction of their caliphate. if you look at the latest issue of their propaganda magazine dabiq, they refer to remaining not expanding. they're losing terrain in northern syria. they've lost some significant terrain in iraq in the last few weeks. the latest -- the second strategy has been amplified or escalated, and that is to conduct these foreign operations, these spectacular terrorist attacks abroad. the guy that i interviewed was a member of the state security service of isis. this is one of the intelligence arms that muhammad emwazi jihadi john also belonged to. the problem they're facing now is it's harder for people to make the immigration over to syria than it used to be. there's really only one border crossing that isis now controls. so what they're doing is they're saying just stay where you are in europe. and if you pledge allegiance to us, you can create your own
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network, create your own sleeper cells. we'll give you financial aid, we'll coordinate with you, make contact with you or in some cases dispatch our trained operatives from syria into europe to link up with you. but you don't have to come here to be a willing executioner of the caliphate. so this is part of -- this is the new plank. and i think this is what's really sort of bedevilling western security forces or intelligence services. you're fighting two wars. you're fighting conventional military one. and now you're going to have to exhaust yourself fighting a national security crisis in the streets and cities of major european and western capitals. and that's exactly what isis wants. it wants to discombobulate us and make us sort of unable to essentially walk and chew gum at the same time. >> one thing isis does have is billions of dollars, oil revenue, gold, banks, they've stolen a lot of money. they can spread that around. guys, standby. we have more to assess including the possibility that the u.s. and russia could team up in this war against isis. stay with us. type 2 diabetes doesn't care who you are.
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we're following the breaking news, a new isis video threatens new york and the u.s. we're back with law enforcement experts. the french prime minister was very blunt today and said this, i'll read the quote directly. if there -- he says he's not sure if there are more groups linked directly to the isis gunman at large. suspects there are. >> absolutely.
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these flags to isis and, you know, this is a large group of people that networked to each other. the people that coordinated charlie hebdo was involved in the attack of the u.s. embassy in 2001. they went to jail six years, got out, went back to work as originally al qaeda, now isis. there is a lot of cells out there. we don't know them all. >> the french president hollande will be in washington on tuesday meeting with president obama. he says he's coming to washington to form a new coalition to go in there and crush, defeat isis and he wants russia to be part of that coalition. is that going to work? >> well, i mean, you saw the huddle between obama and putin where they had half an hour intense conversation and interests align.
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>> if they bring the united states, russia, the western powers, allies together, can they go out there and defeat isis even as bashar al-assad's regime in damascus stays in power? >> you wouldn't need a world war ii style alliance to defeat isis. the first thing russia would have to do is bomb isis. in fact, i mentioned the magazine that isis puts out in the latest issue and they mock russia and say you guys have been hitting the u.s. backed syrian rebels, not us, which is counter of course to the propaganda you're getting, this is a global war against the hardest core terrorists. look, you know, the u.s. could do this with french, great britain. the current coalition can do it. >> a year and change of an intense area and parts of
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aleppo. what has it achieved? they lost terrain where there is a sizable ground force. typically, kurdish militias in the north of syria, iraqi security forces led by the she ya militia but you can't do this from the sky. we learned that a lesson from a decade. looked a the t look at 2004. >> i remember vividly and hard to believe it's under the control of isis. guys, don't go too far away, breaking news, information about the global manhunt for the fugitive. eighth terrorists from the paris attacks with a series of raiding coming up. police, are they closing in on them? people don't have to think about
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happening now, breaking news, at least one suspected killer at large. despite hundreds of raids in france and beyond, tonight, the mastermind of the attacks is dead but has he already set new acts of terror in motion? white house targeted? isis unleashes new threats against the united states in a new video as investigators race to uncover secret terror cells around the globe and prevent new attacks. heightened alert, new york police deploy anti-terror squads after isis threatens to strike in times square. we're tracking security moves across the united states and refugees and rhetoric, lawmakers vote to keep syrian refugees out of the united states at least for now and republican presidential front runners are weighing in with some controversial new remarks about
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refugees and muslims. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. the breaking news tonight, isis is ramping up threats against the united states warning president obama in a new video that the white house will turn black with fire. the video also patrol miss new paris style terror in rome as well as in france. another newly released video captures the horror of one of the paris attacks in a cafe. investigators are trying to determine if the gunman seen on the video from daily mail.com is salah abdeslam. france is warning tonight abdeslam is on the run and dangerous. french officials are scrambling for links against the mastermind
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attacks. authorities confirm abdelhamid abaqoud is dead but aren't sure if he was killed by police or killed himself. during an hour-long gunfight, we know a female suspect blew herself up during that raid and also now we have a chilling recording of her final exchange with police. [speaking foreign language]. >> i'll ask senator king what he's learning about the terror threat. he's a key member of the senate intelligence and armed services committee with a high-level briefing. our correspondents and analysts are standing by as we cover the breaking news. up first, let's go to our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto in paris for us. jim, i understand you have new information about the female suicide bomber. >> reporter: that's right.
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she's now been identified in the most senior french security officials say it is not a question but certainty there are other terrorists and cells here on the loose here, ones authorities know about as in the eighth alleged attacker from friday, ones they do not know about including a support network that would allow the attack of this size to be carried out here on the streets of paris. the alert here certainly far from over. tonight an urgent manhunt is underway across europe as police continue to search for at least one suspected attacker, still at large and still dangerous. salah abdeslam briefly stopped by french police hours after the attacks but let go before authorities knew of his role in friday's deadly rampage. six new raids in belgium overnight and hundreds more here in france in recent days have failed to catch him. >> translator: the republic is
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doing everything to destroy terrorism. >> reporter: french security services netted perhaps their most dangerous suspect, abdelhamid abaqoud, the alleged mastermind confirmed killed in a furious gun battle with police wednesday. >> translator: in the operation, there was a target and it was reached. >> reporter: and tonight, we're seeing chilling new video of the raid. just moments before police killed abaaoud. this was obtained by daily mail.com. one woman saved here in front of the restaurant only because the terrorists assault rifle appears to jam. today french lawmakers voted nearly unanimously to extend the country's state of emergency. giving police broad new powers to detain suspects. >> translator: we are at war and for us to remain ourselves because that is what is in question, france must not lose
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itself to win this war. france must respond to hatred with fraternity. france must respond with hope itself. >> reporter: french officials now confirming the name of the female suicide bomber is hasna aitboulahcen. friends say she recently moved from her hometown and we know relative haves been taken into custody. we have more and this is almost a daily event on yet more videos coming out from isis threatening attacks, more attacks inside the united states. this latest one threatening the white house, nothing credible or specific but certainly something that u.s. officials know that they aspire to attack on the u.s. homeland. wolf? >> this latest video threatening not only the white house saying they want to burn it down and make it black but also threatening monuments in washington d.c. saying they want to blow them up like they blow up treasures in syria and in
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iraq. very disturbing information in that propaganda video. thanks very much. we're also getting a new glimpse into the bloody gunfight and the death of a terrorist mastermind. clarissa ward is joining us. you spoke with the woman, clarissa speaking two floors above the apartment when police moved in. what did she say? >> reporter: that's right, wolf, 30-year-old cleaning lady was living on the first floor and told us the walls were shaking with the impact. she saw nothing but death. she says she was petrified. there were children in the apartment. they were screaming and crying. one little boy she said asked his mother if they were going to die and they were there for a foul two hours before police
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successfully evacuated them. of course, wolf, i asked her did you know this man was living or hiding out in this apartment in your building? and it was interesting what she said to me was, i didn't notice and i didn't know because this is the kind of neighborhood where you mind your own business, where you keep your head down, where it doesn't pay to be looking too much at other people and trying to understand what they are doing and who they are. also, it's worth stating this building was acting as a squat and that gives you a sense of why it's so attractive to jihads, terrorists to hunker down somewhere like that because quite simply, wolf, nobody in that neighborhood is going to report them to the police. >> that is so chilling to hear that. we're also getting, as you know, a first look at the terror inside a paris restaurant, how investigators are using the video to track fugitives on the run. what can you tell us about this? >> reporter: well, wolf, it's
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not just that video. of course, every single minute or second even of cc tv video, surveillance video, we know they are combing through any eyewitnesss video and looking for any clues, cars, gunmen, people in the background trying to identify anything because while of course the focus today wolf has been on celebrating what has been a major victory for french officials in the killing of abaaoud, as jim sciutto mentioned, the eight attacker still on the loose two days ago there was talk of a possible ninth suspect and then beyond that, we're looking at a much larger network that likely would have been needed to facilitate and orchestrate attacks of this nature, who helped get the weapons. who organized the vehicles, who organized that squat for abaaoud and his cousin to hunker down in? investigators combing through
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all evidence before anything else bad happens. >> that daily mail.com exclusive video that we've been showing our viewers is so -- there it is again. so awful to see what was happening during those moments. clarissa, thanks very much. tonight top u.s. law enforcement officials are working around the clock to uncover and disrupt any terror plots in this country. isis is issuing video threats against the united states warning of attacks in new york city and right here in washington d.c. as well including over at the white house. our national correspondent de a deborah feyerick is in new york. major u.s. cities are going on a high state of alert to be on the side of the caution. >> the propaganda videos, magazines are not credible evidence but they try to terrorize populations to make them think they are under attack, are under threat. one person i spoke to today said isis' strategy now is to
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provoke, provoke, provoke. they are trying to force europe and the united states to put boots on the ground but security here very tight. the new video released today is less slickly produced than the two earlier ones this week, a pair of isis fighters talking into the camera threatening rome and the white house. and tonight new york city responding to a direct threat from the terror group. a propaganda video implying a suicide bomb. >> the people of new york city will not be intimidated. >> reporter: the nypd deploying counter terror tactical teams to cover a range of potential threats. >> they have additional training in explosive trace detection, hostile surveillance. >> reporter: police deputies around the country are working closely with fbi and federal law enforcement. there is no specific credible threat. it's the unknown threat the u.s. is working to protect against.
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>> isil and supporters put out propaganda like videos and magazines but that is not credible intelligence. >> reporter: in washington d.c. a different isis propaganda video early in the week triggered increased security in the capital subway system. >> every threat, no matter where it comes from or how credible it's deemed to be we take as credible and act that way. >> reporter: emboldened by the attack in paris, isis released multiple videos threatening attacks in multiple cities. in the web video of images with times square and another image of heroald square raised concer. kicks off a very busy holiday season including the rockefeller christmas tree lighting and times square ball drop. with millions of tourists flocking to manhattan for the events, police understand there is no room for error. and the fbi director saying
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immediately after the paris attacks, intelligence officials looked over everything they knew and had in their database to see whether there was, in fact, any link to the united states. the fbi director saying today as far as he is aware, there is none. wolf? >> deborah feyerick in new york for us. thanks very much. i quickly want to go back to jim sciutto in paris. i understand you're getting information about the massive manhunt and the terrorist that may be on the loose. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. you're well aware how intense this manhunt is now. we got new information extended for the alleged eighth attacker, a missing terrorist from the friday attacks, name salah abdeslam. the subject of the international arrest warrant. the search is extended to the netherlands. why? because he has associations there in the past and it's just yet one more reminder of how easy it can be to move around europe. the distances here are short. the borders effectively open.
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it's visa free travel from country to country and remember, salah abdeslam was stopped by police just hours after the attacks in paris. they did not at the time know he was involved in the attacks. stopped on his way going from france to belgium. now you have this manhunt being extended onto the netherlands, just giving you a sense of the scope. one more detail that is coming in now, that is that salah abdeslam rather, the alleged master mind of these attacks, abdelhamid abaqoud, the ringleader confirmed today killed in the bloody raid, that bloody shootout yesterday, that he has been connected to conspiracy uncovered earlier in august of this year to attack a concert hall in paris. keep in mind, that's of course what happened on friday. the concert hall at bataclan where really most of the deaths in this attack carried out. there was a hostage situation, dozens of people killed in cold blood. so you had an arrest for someone speaking about just such a plot
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a couple months before this plot was carried out. it's yet one more sign that these ideas have been percolating here. these clues, these connections and again, a connection back to the ringleader have been percolating. sadly, you can call it perhaps another missed sign but another measure of how many people in europe and france and elsewhere attempting to carry out attacks, how broad the network is and a reminder that that manhunt is not just for one attacker, for many people potentially connected to the plot here on friday, wolf. >> friday night concert hall in paris, that's where an american rock band was playing and most of the people killed in those terror attacks were young people attending that rock concert with an american band performing. jim sciutto stand by. i want to bring in senator angus king. i know, senator, thanks for joining us. you've been well-briefed. can isis do what they are threatening to do in these propaganda videos, go after
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targets in times square, herold square, new york, the white house monuments here in washington? >> i think the first thing to say is just what the director of the fbi said, we have no credible intelligence. it's basically threats at this point. we don't know what they can do. i mean, we know that around july 4th they planned some attacks and the fbi did a fantastic job arrested 60 people who are now awaiting trial but who were sympathetic with isis. here is the problem, wolf. it's not necessarily importing people from europe or from the middle east into america, they have been radicalizing our own people through the internet and through communications, texts and other things and they may just, all they have to do is say okay, now is the time go get your automatic rifle and head to times square. that's the toughest thing for us to counter act because there is no plot if you will to thwart. we have pretty good knowledge
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and access to a lot of these people. the answer to your question is there can't be any guarantees. i think that's obvious but we are, we do have a lot of assets being deployed now. >> what you're saying is isis has, what, sleeper terror cells all over the united states that could be activated at any time to go out and commit these terror attacks? >> the fbi has investigations of terrorism going on in every single state of the union right now. >> and what? and these individuals potentially could be alerted through social media or encrypted communications? this is the time, go do something? >> that's right. it would be a terrorist apb. it's somewhere between directed and inspired. and in paris, it was directed. that was a plot. but it could also be inspired where they may not know the names of the people, just know people they are communicating with on social media or san diego or chicago and give the
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word and we've seen some of those plots, remember there was one down in garland, texas where two guys came at the muslim -- anti muslim rally and killed by the local police but we know that those people are out there and we're just going to have to keep after them day by day and we're going to have to focus on where the real threat is. >> the nightmare is this encrypted communications capabilities. more to discuss including that. senator angus king. it remains with us, we'll take a quick break. much more after this. i absolutely love my new but the rent is outrageous. good thing geico offers affordable renters insurance. with great coverage it protects my personal belongings should they get damaged, stolen or destroyed. [doorbell] uh, excuse me. delivery. hey. lo mein, szechwan chicken, chopsticks, soy sauce and you got some fortune cookies. have a good one. ah, these small new york apartments... protect your belongings.
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we're back with senator angus king but following breaking news. we're also getting for the first time the first image of the suicide bomber who blew herself up during wednesday's raid. also, just coming into "the situation room", word that the search is now expanding from france into belgium but now into the netherlands as though fauth hunt for the eighth fugitive salah abdeslam. we're back with senator angus
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king. the french, the belgium, intelligence services, i heard from many u.s. experts that seem to be over stretched, overwhelmed right now. is that what you're hearing? >> yes, absolutely. i think they are. i think the combination of terrorists activity. a lot of people, there is apprehension this is about syrian refugees. most of the people are citizens of france and belgium and been there for years but they are over stressed and one of the problems is, i don't know if the europeans consider it a problem but you can move so easily within europe. there are literally no borders or check points. you don't have to show a passport. you can drive from hungary to sweden crossing the channel, of course. that's one of the things that makes it easier for people to move around and harder to be keeping track of them. >> france, the president hollande is going to over the next three months, he's going to
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do something at the borders because you're absolutely right. for years you can drive to europe from michigan to indiana without border controls or any check points or anything like that. this visa waiver program, i know you're concerned about it. it's been around now for a long time. citizens of friendly countries like france or belgium, germany, britain can come to the united states as tourists, as businessmen and women and simply come in without a whole lot of checking. they don't need special visas. >> that's right. i see that as our major vulnerability. there is talk about syrian refugees. 2,000 refugees have come in visa waiver last year. 20 million entries to the united states. >> from countries that have visa waiver progame. >> but they include the european countries and so that's where i think there is some real work to be done. >> what work needs to be done? do away with it? >> i don't knee if we need to do away with it. we certainly need to tighten up
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standards and be sure the european countries are doing the proper background work. >> they are overwhelmed already. >> perhaps we should pause it. i'm not sure what the answer is but i'm trying to gather the data but when i heard the number of 20 million. that's a shocking figure and that's where i think we need to be consensus trailicentrating o >> the house measure to put a pause on refugees from the united states and syria and iraq. it's going to come to the senate. how are you going to vote? >> i'll probably vote against it. i'm suspicious of bills introduced on tuesday and passed by saturday. why are we focussing on 2,000 people in the last three years and not 20 million last year? let's focus our attention where the problem is. one of the bills put in today bipartisan bill in the senate would say anybody whose been to syria or iraq in the last five years novice say waiver. the question is, how good is the
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>> breaking news, cnn learned a manhunt for the tfugitive terrorists in the paris attack is on. they are looking for salah abdeslam in the netherlands. jim sciutto is following the latest investigation. clearly, it's expanding. >> reporter: that's right. no question. it's an urgent manhunt. we knew they were looking in france, certainly belgium because you remember it was a few hours after the attacks police stopped him before they knew who he was or how he was connected. he was on the road to belgium. certainly the terror level very high there. the search going on there. now they are expanding it to the netherlands, the reason being that he has passed associations there but keep in mind just for
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folks back home, the distances between these countries are very short like traveling state to state in the u.s. the borders virtually nonexistent. you can cross very easily. that makes a manhunt that much more difficult and just raises and makes very clear the level of their challenge here in finding this one man across this country. keep in mind, it's not just him they are looking for. they are looking for a support network and as we heard tonight, it's not a question, it's a certainty that there are other terrorists, other terrorists cells out there that they need to find before they can attack. >> i'm sure not just in france but in belgium and elsewhere, as well. jim sciutto, stand by. officials in france have identified a female suspect who blew herself up during a raid and a gunfight in the paris suburb, the same raid that led to the death of mastermind of the attacks. nic robertson is standing by in paris for us. what are you learning tonight,
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nic? >> reporter: hasna aitboulahcen was the female suicide bomber, northeastern outskirts of paris yesterday was raided by police and developing more information about her and more information about her connection. she, of course, the cousin of the person that is scene as a significant player behind the friday attacks. we now have that from french officials saying that absolutely he played a dee si d ed a derol. it came from intelligence in the early morning hours of wednesday morning. 4:20 a.m. on wednesday, an early french police unit closes in on
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an apartment building in the paris suburb. intelligence, wiretaps, bank transfers led them to in low income neighborhood. the target, abdelhamid abaqoud, the suspect ringleader. police make their way to the third floor but an explosive charge fails to open the security door. a gun battle erupts and continues for an hour. three people are quickly arrested but there are still two or three people inside including a woman. they throw grenades, police fire 5,000 rounds into the apartment. after the scene quiets down, police send in an attack dog named diesel to check for signs of life. diesel is shot dead. a police sniper shoots one of the terrorists inside. injured, he continues to fire back. a police officer shouts to the
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woman. where is your boyfriend? [speaking foreign language]. >> reporter: she yells back, it's not my boyfriend. then a loud explosion. police say the woman detonated a suicide vest. it turns out, she is the cousin of abaaoud but several more hours before the police can enter the building where they find a scene of carnage. two men are detained but there are remains of two or even three bodies inside. french forensic experts race to discover whether abaaoud is one of them but amid the carnage, have to move slowly. more than 24 hours pass before the prosecutor's office in a two-line statement says the bullet ridden body is abaaoud's. >> translator: among the six attacks that have been avoided or foiled since spring this year, abaaoud seems to have been involved in four. >> reporter: a victory against
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terrorism but many questions remain. those questions france's intelligence officials are and are obviously prioritizing and asking themselves as they believe he was in syria. it was only with the help of intelligence that helped them to twart the operation about to be put in place. they have to figure how he was able to slip back from syria and get into europe and of course, that is a growing concern here right now. we've heard from french officials today saying that they need to beef up and make the outer borders of this europe of countries with no police controls and proper border controls, if you will, they need the outer levels, out earrings, italy, greece, these countries where migrants, refugees flood into europe and make those more
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secure but that's not all of it. what they are talking about working on here, we're hearing from others in europe is trying to get police forces in europe to work in a more speedy efficient united way to unify the police forces inside that hardened border, wolf. >> a lot of work ahead of them. thanks very much. let's bring in evan perez, our cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank. if it is expanded, might officials have information on movements, help he had moving across borders, contacts he may have had? are you hearing? >> reporter: wolf, the search goes on. i've been in touch with officials in belgium and throughout europe on this. and they are putting all the resources they can to find this
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man. there is a lot of concern because there is a missing suicide vest. he's considered armed and dangerous and it's concern that he might want to go out in a blaze of glory. he doesn't have many options left. the entiere continent secure services immobile utilized against them. they actually stopped him, the french police that morning at 9:00 because he was driving back after the attacks into belgium, picked up by two of his friends but they didn't know at that point that he was one of the attackers, so they let him go and contacted belgium police who arrested the other two but by that time he slipped the net. hasn't been seen since and they really don't know where he is. he could be almost anywhere in europe by now. he may be trying to get back to syria for all we know. that would be a good propaganda victory for isis. >> if he can do that, that would
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be amazing given the manhunt. the french officials don't know where he is and belgium in the . they didn't know that the so-called mastermind, abdelhamid abaqoud was in france. they thought he was in syria someplace with the isis leader. so the critics say the french intelligence service has a lot of questions to answer. >> it is about intelligence and about getting that intelligence out and shared very, very broadly. look, inter pool exists for a reason. they have access to the data. it needs to not just be available but pushed so that it goes down to respective locations when something like this pops up. in order, whenever you have a leading indicator, you push the intelligence down to where you think the actions need to take
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place. it's a guess he's still in europe and where he might be. >> you just come, evan, from a briefing with the u.s. justice, the attorney general that's part of the justice department loretta lynch with the director of the fbi. what are they saying about these latest isis propaganda videos saying they are going to go after targets like times square, herald square new york, the white house, they want to blow up the monuments here in washington. they say they blew up treasures in syria and in iraq. what are they saying? >> really, wolf, two messages. the first is, you know, let's not let these people make us live in fear. we refuse. the justice department, the fbi has upped its game on this, has made sure it's increased the number of people it's monitoring. jim said today there are dozens of people they have increased monitoring of because of the concern they are high priority
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people that could act out on the behalf of isis. we know they have 900 investigations. this is a much smaller pool they are focussing on and talked about the fact that we know that these people, there are much fewer of them traveling overseas to join isis and syria and iraq and the question is why. is it because the message is getting through they shouldn't go or heeding the message from isis to stay here and kill here. that's the word of -- >> frightening when you heard that from the director of the fbi and attorney general of the united states. stand by, everyone stand by, we're getting more information on what is going on. this expanding manhunt underway now. we'll take a quick break and be right back. y has no slow season. no off-days, or downtime. opportunity is everything you make of it. this winter, take advantage of our season's best offers on the
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we're back with our terrorism experts in the breaking news we're following the manhunt for a dangerous fugitive suspected in the paris terror attacks expanding, cnn learned. authorities are looking for salah abdeslam in the netherlands, not just france or belgium. when they released a video paul cruickshank saying paris before rome and say they want to go after rome, they don't necessarily mean the city of rome or italy and vatican. they have a much broader definition of what rome is,
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don't they? >> reporter: that the absolutely right, wolf. for them rome is the entire western world and the message in this new video put out by on isis branch in iraq is they want to come eventually after the white house, that they are going to engulf the white house in washington d.c. in flames. they are really ratcheting up the propaganda in the last few days against the united states and i think that's quite interesting with these threats against washington and also new york. they are trying to make hay while the sun is shining on them from their point of view because of these paris attacks, and i think one of the concerns is that they could try and infiltrate european operatives into the united states. some of these attackers in paris were not, we understand, on u.s. watch lists and so could have presumably quite easily gotten on planes and come to the united
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states and try to launch something over there. that's something security officials in the united states will be watching out for. there was no specific reference, by the way, to italy itself in the new video but i understand that there has been a security alert put out, security advisory from the state department, american tourists in italy about sort of being careful when they are over there at this point. >> yeah, the state department spokesman told me earlier today, spider, that the u.s., that washington is sending more marine guards to various embassies throughout europe or paris or brussels or rome to be the on side of caution. president hollande is coming to washington but air strikes alone can't get the job done, you agree. >> completely. the air strikes, if we could increase, if the western powers, coalition to include france and now russia, if those air strikes
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became smooth thering in terms the number, the precision of the strikes and we ended up with an ear bleeding campaign against isis, we could contain their activities. that's not, that's necessary but not sufficient and what is sufficient, ultimately, is to get something on the ground, soldiers on the ground so you can occupy the space and not let it go back because it will. it takes place with geography. it will go back to the bad guys. >> how much coordination, cooperation between the fbi and law enforcement intelligence is there with the europeans? >> there is a lot more. they are sharing pretty much every bit of information. the information they had before the attacks that perhaps maybe they held on to and try to develop. they are sharing things more quickly. in italy there was a warning as a result of information the fbi shared with the italian authorities. that's what is happening. you see in light of what the videos are calling for are
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country at least for now. our senior washington correspondent joe johns is here with details. joe, this legislation passed overwhelmingly, a lot of democrats joining republicans. veto proof majority in the house. >> that's right, wolf. the vote was 281-137, a veto proof majority, just enough to support to over ride a presidential veto if it ever came to that and the white house has made its objections to this bill perfectly clear. [crying] >> reporter: with millions of refugees trying to flee the civil war in syria and france pledging to take in 30,000 of them. >> 289 and nays 137. the bill is passed. >> reporter: the u.s. house of representatives passed a bill that blocks refugees from syria and iraq from coming to the united states. it sailed through with support from both parties led by the newly house speaker paul ryan in
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his first weeks on the job. >> the first duty of our government is to keep the american people safe. >> reporter: the bill requires top administration officials to certify that incoming refugees are not a safety threat, which the head of the fbi and dhs says is overly cumbersome. the white house threatened to veto it if it gets pasted democrats. >> don't worry, it won't get passed. >> reporter: a poll shows broad support from blocking certain refugees to keep isis fighters out. the top republican complaining the white house just doesn't get it. >> they have a tendency because of what they do on a daily basis to almost knock down concerns that average americans have. >> reporter: and the president's point man on homeland security sounded exasperated that the refugee program is a slow and careful process. >> all i can do is keep repeating i've been saying.
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i gave a speech. >> reporter: many democrats oppose changes that would only effect 10,000 people and counting with a proposal to address a bigger vulnerability, the so-called visa waiver program that allows 20 million people a year to enter the u.s. almost unquestioned as long as they have passports from any one of 38 countries, no vetting, no waiting period. >> if a terrorist is going to try to come into this country, they are much more likely to use loopholes in the visa waiver program to do it. >> reporter: there was more action today. republican senator and presidential candidate rand paul tried to slip a provision on to a transportation bill that would have blocked government benefits to refugees from 34 countries, just one more indication this debate over refugees on capitol hill is not going away, wolf? >> joe johns, thanks very much. meanwhile tonight, donald trump isn't ruling out what many
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people consider a radical step beyond trying to keep syrian refugees out of the u.s. trump says he's willing to consider requiring muslims living in the united states to register with the national database. let's go to sarah murray covering the trump campaign and out there in iowa right now. what exactly is he saying? >> reporter: that's right. that was an interview with yahoo news and trump basically said he wouldn't rule out the option of having muslims register in a database. he says we need to look closely at the apgoptions out there. he said he would be open to shutting down mosques and saying it would be suicide to admit syrian refugees into the united states. wolf? >> so tonight controversial remark by dr. ben carson on the refugee issue. what did he say? >> reporter: yeah, we're seeing a number of republicans try to take a hard line but carson caused a stir when he compared the syrian refugee crisis to
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rabid dogs using an analogy some thought were delegate, take a listen. >> at the same time, we must always balance. we must balance safety against just being a humanitarian. for instance, if there's a rabid dog running around your neighborhood, you're probably not going to assume something good about that good. and you're probably going to put your children out of the way. >> reporter: now in another campaign event today, carson explained that he was talking about needing to vet the syrian refugees and better screen them as they come to the u.s. he accused the media of twisting his words. >> the candidates are speaking out on the national securityi issues in the aftermath of paris, right? >> absolutely. we're seeing a number of candidates realize this race is quickly becoming a test who is
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prepared to be commander in chief. >> sarah murray with donald trump in iowa with us. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer "the situation room." cnn special coverage of the paris attacks continues right now with erin burnett "outfront." good evening, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. breaking news, a massive international manhunt for a suspected terrorist on the run. the search for salah abdeslam is moving to the netherlands where he spent time in the past. salah abdeslam whose brother blew himself up outside a cafe fled to belgium where police stopped him and released him on the night of the attacks. later intelligence indicated he would be in spain. this as isis and yet another new video issues a new threat tonight specifically targeting rome, paris and the white house. boasting they will burn

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