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welcome to our continuing breaking news coverage from paris. i'm poppy harlow live for you this evening. it is 1:00 in the morning in paris. 7:00 p.m. on the east coast. after 22 police raids today in and around belgium, we know 16 people are now under arrest there. but the key man that they were looking for, the most wanted man in europe is still on the lamb. today's raids in brussels not ending the international manhunt for the eighth attacker, salah abdelslam. he was last seen nine days ago on the road headed to brussels a
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few hours after the horrific attacks here in paris. shots were fired in one of the raids. we are told a vehicle did escape temporarily in brussels. police, though, say they were able to track down that vehicle and they found one injured man. again, they did not find salah abdel sl abdelslam. also, no firearms or explosives found in today's raids. due to the high threat level within brussels, the section of the u.s. embassy will be completely closed in brussels tomorrow except for emergency situations for americans, we are told. french police have also released this photo of one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up outside the state de france. they do not know who he is and urging the public to come forward with any information they have on him. let's go straight to brussels, the senior international correspondent is there, tonight, a city in a major european hub
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on lockdown and now the raids still not turning up the most wanted man in europe. how on edge are people in brussels? >> reporter: well, there's definitely a sense that the tension is rising here in brussels, poppy. even with the 22 raids, 16 arrests. into tomorrow, we won't have a sense how many of the 16 are even relevant to the broader fears that the prime minister has reiterated twice now about this serious and imminent threat he says his capital city is facing. the prosecutor says that the operations and investigations are continuing. and we are seeing it here, even 1:00 a.m., soldiers and police are patrolling in the plaza down below us here, poppy, right in the center of town. there is a real sense here that they are preparing themselves really for anything. >> absolutely, but the workweek
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starts tomorrow, i know that the metro there, the subway is closed. the schools are closed. how long is this city going to remain pretty much shuttered? >> well, even just this weekend, the sense that businesses are hemorrhaging cash. the hotel that we're staying at is almost empty apart from us and maybe a few journalist colleagues. this is where the european parliament sits, this is where the european commission is. belgium is so central to the smooth running of europe as an institution. to have this come to a complete halt, it really -- and this is a huge worry for a lot of those diplomatic intelligence sources i've been speaking to, has such a propaganda victory to the isis machinery. but, at the same time, almost in the same breath, those we have been speaking to, immediately admit that the alternative is so unthinkable to not, if there is indeed a serious and imminent
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threat, to not take these kind of precautions is just absolutely unacceptable. >> yeah, absolutely. understood, especially what happened here in paris. thank you very much and stay with us as i talk it over with martin savage here in paris with me. they do not, interestingly, in brussels and belgium have a state of emergency yet, which have given the police so much more power for the raids, but we do one of the raids was in molenbek. talk about that suburb. >> it's proven to be crucial and the breeding ground of where most of these attackers came from that came to paris. it is an area that has been focused on in the past as far as concern about radical islam there, but now as a result of what happened in the city, it clearly has become central. and many believe that this is a community in belgium that is now the focus of the investigation.
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and could it be key to finding to it what comes next. >> that's also where salah abdelslam is from, the eighth attacker. >> a number of them. >> a number of them. when you look more broadly at belgium, it is also key because it has proved per capita to have the most citizen that is have left to go fight in syria and iraq with isis. >> but i still think to many people it has come as a shock. it was felt that in many ways, perhaps the real seed of this was in france. but it didn't happen that way. >> right. >> they came from belgium, they came here. and that, i think, has been a surprise both to the investigators and certainly to the people here and to much of the world. belgium now is being looked upon as this kind of breeding ground. certainly it's the central focus of where the attackers came from. >> to be fair, when i put that statistic out there, it's important to qualify it with the fact that it's per capita. we are talking about what analysts say is about 500 citizens who have left belgium
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to be join the jihad. paris, 11 million people, much larger when you're talking about a threat. >> the the other thing that's come forward from talking to people and learned from investigators is that the people allegedly took part in this attack and did not seem, up until recently, the kind of really radical mindset. >> and a lot of them weren't on the radar. >> no. and even friends said, you know what? they had been out drinking and partying and were known in the past -- >> one of them owned a bar -- >> exactly. they didn't seem to fit the model. and that's what all of the investigators have been seeing. the key past indicators here that might have tipped you off, you were having some kind of problem, they weren't there. and these people apparently became radicalized so quickly, in some cases they say maybe in about a week, that's terrifying. >> in about a week. that is a terrifying thought. martin, stay close. i want to continue to talk over this right now with former assistant secretary of homeland
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security, juliette cayenne and tom fuentes. juliette, you say this is a no-win for the authorities tonight in brussels. >> yeah, just looking at the numbers. 22 raids, that's 22 different locations, less than 20 arrests. you didn't find the person that you were looking for. the -- so this was inconclusive at best. maybe it was done to disrupt or scare the community so that there would be movement and then through the movement you might find the people that you're looking for. so it is hard to second-guess at this stage. i'm not sure what the end game is, though, for brussels in terms of the state of emergency and the lockdown that they have imposed on their country. it is unsustainable for the economy as you were saying. they don't want people moving from their homes to come to the embassy. so they don't want their employees to be at risk or to
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violate the lockdown order. so that's essentially what has to happen next is what are going to be the standards of criteria to reopen the city that absolutely has to be open. we cannot close down cities every time that there's an increased threat. >> absolutely. stay with me, juliette. we have stefan here with me and tom fuentes. tom, do you think that salah abdelslam is still alive at this point? >> i have no idea, poppy. the unfortunate thing is the authorities have no idea. so right now as juliette mentioned, they have had all the raids tonight that were predominantly unsuccessful since they didn't find any really new terrorist or weapons or the bomb factory or any more really actionable intelligence. >> we are not sure about who they -- we are not sure who they have arrested, tom. i mean, we don't know who they have arrested.
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>> well, okay. but it doesn't appear that any of those locations were what they were hoping for, i'll put it that way. and the fact that he's still on the loose and they don't know for sure where he's at, he could be in syria, he could still be in paris or belgium, we don't know. >> absolutely. stefan, to you, you have said interestingly there's an issue you believe with coordination among the major intelligence branches, if you will, when it comes to here in france and also in belgium. what do you mean? >> well, there's a huge problem with the exchange of information and the analysis of the data that's being gathered. to give you an example, in paris or in france, there are a couple of different intelligence services. and these are competitors, basically. they are rivals. some of them come from the police background, others from the military background.
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and the culture is completely different, so they don't like to exchange information. and that means there's a lot of information that the intelligence services are gathering but they don't basically talk to each other. information stays in one desk and doesn't go to another desk. this has changed a little bit since "charlie hebdo" collaboration has stepped up. but the cultures are very different and means many mistakes can be made. and, well, we have seen the very sad results of the attacks ten days ago, eight days ago. >> do you know if the french authorities here are helping in belgium right now? because we heard one of the lead -- prosecutors in belgium saying earlier this week we don't have a handle on the terrorists here. we don't have a handle on those who have gone away, been radicalized and come home. >> i do think there's an intense collaboration this week. i've seen -- i was on the train station on friday, and there
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were a lot of armed police. there's already collaboration between the forces. and i do think the french are also present in belgium because they cannot afford another mistake. >> we know, juliette, that the fbi has sent, i believe four or five officers over here to help the investigation. and because an american citizen, noemi gonzalez killed in this, the fbi does have jurisdiction here in the wake of the paris attacks. what can they do to help and do you think we'll see more aid coming from the united states on the intelligence front? >> well, the fbi already has a presence throughout europe in paris and belgium with nato. so the additional five, it seems like a small number, it's just supplemental to who is already there. and the fbi agents in europe are accessing all the information that they can from europe and sending it to the united states and vice versa. so i'm not sure if the number matters as much as insuring that what we know is shared with the
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europeans and that what the europeans know about who is on their list is shared with the united states as we confront concerns about various travel programs. so the number may sound like the audience like we are not doing much. but there's an entire apparatus of u.s. intelligence, law enforcement, diplomatic members who are already in europe because they are our allies. that's essentially how it's working. >> tom, when you were with the fbi, how was the coordination -- tom, if you can hear me, when you were with the fbi -- go ahead. >> i was going to say when i was with the fbi my last five years, i aen the international program. i was in charge of the fbi offices in paris and brussels and berlin and london. the paris office is a large office. the brussels office is also large because of the eu head quartered there and nato being
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qua headquartered there. throughout the 13 offices in western europe would also send additional agents and maybe five more from the u.s. with particular specialties such as bomb technicians or experts that would try to look at the suicide vests, how were they assembled? what kind of explosive material are they using? so there's probably many more agents working and technicians working on these cases than appears just from more than just five. >> yeah, that's a great point. exactly what i was going to ask you. how was the collaboration when you were there running things? tom fuentes, thank you so much. juliette, thank you. go ahead. >> i was just going to add, the cooperation is great. but what we're seeing here is it's not an issue of intelligence sharing. it's an issue of intelligence possession. they are sharing what they have but they don't have enough. and the fact that you can have terror cells of six to eight
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people do the first attack and they weren't on anybody's radar, nobody notified the authorities and then when they do the raid during the middle of the week last week, they find another cell with six to eight people and think there's an additional cell of at least six to eight people on the loose. and they don't know. and nobody -- that's been the failure of isis and other terror groups in the u.s. to carry out a big attack because as soon as more than two or three people are involved and start to recruit, somebody notifies the police or the fbi and it's broken up. and i think what we're seeing here is the lack of ability, the lack of outreach on the part of the authorities to have cooperation in the community where when six or eight people get together, somebody report that is to the authorities. >> tom fuentes, thank you. juliet, thank you. stefan, thank you. quick break, we are live with more from paris next.
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welcome back to our continuing live coverage tonight from paris where it is just past 1:00 in the morning. and tonight a poignant photograph of the moments right before three gunman stormed the bataclan concert hall in paris killing 89 people. look at it. it shows a smiling crowd, some fans raising their hands and their glasses. just enjoying the music, enjoying their friday night. unaware of the carnage that would come.
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performing at night, the american rock band eagles of death metal. and they just sat down for a new interview with vice, two of the band members that spoke about the tragic events of that night, what they experienced. fredericka whitfield reports. >> several people hid in our dressing room. >> eagles of death metal lead singer jesse hugh speaking out for the first time remembering that terrible night. >> the killers were able to get in and killed every one of them, except for a kid hiding under my leather jacket. >> the band at the bataclan theater, the deadly jest center of the paris attacks. this photo a snapshot in time just moments before the first shots rang out senselessly cutting short the lives of 89 people. >> the killers were in your dressing room? >> yes, people were playing dead and they were so scared. >> a great reason why so many were killed because so many people wouldn't leave their friends. and so -- so many people put
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themselves in front of people. >> the band clearly traumatized and frozen with disbelief putting out this statement. while the band is now home safe, we are horrified and still trying to come to terms with what happened in france. among the 89 killed in the attack, the band's merchandise manager nick alexander and three people from their records label, thomas ayat, marie moser and andrea perez. fredericka whitfield, cnn. >> fredericka, thank you for that. the first time we heard from the band playing that night at the bataclan when this horrifying tragedy broke out, we're going to take a quick break and have much more live from paris in just a minute.
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to american politics now, donald trump in a double-digit lead over his closest competitor, ben carson, in the republican presidential nomination process. and a new poll out today from the washington post and abc news shows donald trump at 32%. b is at ben carson is at 22% an marco rubio is at 11%. let's go to washington for more. >> reporter: good evening, poppy. a new poll out today shows donald trump continues to lead the gop field and has a double-digit lead with 32% support. ben carson running a close second with 22%. and the only other republican with double-digit support is marco rubio coming in at 11%. now this poll comes after a week of really heated rhetoric on the campaign trail over whether to allow 10,000 syrian refugees into the united states amid fears that isis terrorists could be among them. carson compared some refugees to
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rabid dogs and trump said he considered shutting down mosques and endorsing tracking u.s. muslims in a database. an idea he doubled down on on sunday. >> i want a database for the refugees that if they come into the country, we have no idea who these people are. when the syrian ref you geugees pouring in, i want checks and balances. >> reporter: the controversial comments haven't seen to hurt carson or trump's standing. in fact, half of the surveys oppose taking in refugees from syria. despite the paris attacks, the economy tops the issue most important to voters followed close ly by terrorism. and republicans want somebody to change washington and that's a measure where trump dominates. at trump rally in alabama on sunday, at least a half dozen white attendees shoved, tackled, punched and kicked a black
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protester who disrupted trump's speech. on sunday trump suggested the violence was justified. >> maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing. >> police told cnn that three people were asked to leave the event. no arrests were made. and the protester did not require medical attention. poppy? >> chris hayes from washington, thank you. as the race for the white house heats up, do not miss the republican debate of the year coming up right here on cnn, december 15th. it will be moderated by wolf blitzer, december 15th, 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here on cnn. a quick break and we are back live with more from paris and the arrests in belgium, nexz. next. yea, it's nespresso. i want in. ♪
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breaking news, i'm poppy harlow. after 22 raids in and around brussels this evening, the ringleader of the attacks in paris is still on the run. 16 people are under arrest at this hour, but salah abdelslam, the man who left after the attacks here, drove and was stopped by police but not taken into custody, well, he's still on the run. police not releasing the names of those they arrested or any information on evidence that they may have found. what we know is that brussels has already extended its maximum terror level alert from yesterday through today. schools closed tomorrow, subways closed tomorrow, the prime minister there in belgium telling residents to remain vigilant to avoid any crowded areas including shopping centers or the airports. our cnn senior international correspondent is live in brussels. it's extraordinary to see a major european hub basically shuttered, naima, now that
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people know there's been 22 raids and 16 arrests, but the key man is still on the loose. what are they saying? >> reporter: there was a sense of baited breath. we have had eight days of raids since the threats in the paris investigation first began here. you had the raids last saturday in molenbeek three last saturday. and there's been a sense of concern, of tension, but also the sense of disbelief that again belgium finds itself at the heart of an ongoing terror investigation. because this isn't the first time, the "charlie hebdo" attack in paris led back to molenbeek and brussels. and i think that's why we are seeing such bluntness from the belgian authorities about the imminent threat as they are calling it. and also about the sense that
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belgium has been this weak link in the war on terror. because, of course, this isn't the first time and you're seeing a sense of scrutiny in terms of what the officials are under and a fatigue, i would call it. and a lot of those who have been speaking here in belgium that really, it is time that the belgian authorities found a way to bring this to some kind of a close. >> can you talk a little bit about the significance of molenbeek, that suburb of brussels where salah abdelslam is from. it's become clear in the last few days it's a hotbed for the terrorists to organize and execute attacks like we saw in paris? >> reporter: molenbeek has been seen as one of the main stops on the jihadi pipeline in terms of isis fighters between europe and syria. but what seems to differentiate
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molenbeek from this place and the exodus of young men to join isis' ranks is that molenbeek has a toxic mix of organized crime and disaffected marginalized young men who seem to be very easy preyed for this kind of radicalized ideology. and you bring it all together, the young men have access to forged documents, to illegal weapons and the authorities are very open about the fact that if the petty criminality there is make it so difficult to contain, not just the radicalization, but then there are so many politicians who critique the federal government saying there are simple ways that molenbeek could have been contained, mainly something like an international alert, poppy. it sounds extraordinary, but having international alerts against the names of those who have gone to fight in syria, that hasn't been implemented on a nationwide basis. that's why you see the ease of
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traffic back and forth. i know, it's absolutely extraordinary. the first time i was told this i was shocked, but you see a sense of ease with the traffic back and forth. they come back radicalized and boast about it. that's what the ringleader did in the paris attack, he posted a video online saying i was inside belgium and i knew they were looking for me and yet i managed to come back out to syria. and all of these things are going to have consequences for the belgian authorities. >> no question. i mean, that is astonishing to hear, nima. and the fact that the ringlead er abaaoud was riding the subway here the night of the attacks when they coordinated and attacked six different locations. nima, thank you very much. we'll talk more about this manhunt for the accused eighth paris attacker. senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant
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director tom fuentes is here and jonathan gilliam in new york. tom, used to run the fbi european offices, so the office here in paris and other headquarters across europe, can -- i'm having a hard time stomaching what nima just said, that in belgium, even if people traveled to syria and thought to be rad cloudy skiicaradicalized warning went out. how can that be? >> well, when i ran the agency, there were different alerts that went out, but typically the european countries under the gustapo after world war ii, their privacy laws are incredible compared to anywhere else in the world. they don't even put out amber alerts because it is prejudice
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s prejudicial against the person. they don't operate in sources, confident sources like we do. they don't do community outreach like we do to try to get people, parents and emoms and others in the muslim communities to come forward. and that's why in the u.s. we have been so successful at thwarting attacks. as soon as one or two people decide to get three or four more involved, somebody notifies the police or the fbi, or a parent or an emom or teacher. and you are seeing that in these communities we have several cells of half a dozen or more people that no one had a clue where they existed or where they existed, what kind of materials or explosives they had. and the reason for the shut down of brussels, they fear there's another group of six or eight people on the loose that will do an attack. when i said earlier that the searches tonight were unsuccessful, only because if
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they were successful and knew they had that group in tow, they could call off closing down brussels. the fact that they have not and are extending having the city shut down tells you they have not been successful in finding out the information they're looking for. >> tom, thank you. jonathan, to you, what we know are pamela brown and evan perez breaking the news this weekend that the u.s. national security officials have told cnn, look, at least one of the eight paris attackers would have been conceivably able to travel to the united states under the visa waiver program that allows people from 38 european countries to get on planes and come to the u.s. without a visa. there's also growing concern that if perhaps as many as three of them could have slipped through the united states' watchlist and screening system. how do we change that? >> well, i tell you, poppy, that's an excellent and important question because now you're seeing in belgium right now what happens when you don't forward think these things.
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one of the things you can primarily do is at least take the advice of people trained as an attacker in unconventional war fair that come from the military. i'm a former navy s.e.a.l. people who understand how conventional warfare begins, take these into account before you build a policy so you're not in the position brussels is in right now. unfortunately for now where they are at, they need to start thinking outside the box. money talks and they need to start lookinging for sources. but unfortunately as tom was telling us a minute ago, if you don't have confidential informants, once something happens, you're behind the gun trying to develop the informants and they need to think about talking to people in jail and offering them reduced sentences or money or people on the street, anything they can do to try to get information out of the people. they have to start doing that. but we don't want to get in the
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position so when it comes to policies we need to forward-think ourselves before we start to develop in these things. >> and by the way, a lot of the radicalization that has happened here in paris as our clarissa ward has reported on has happened in french jails. jonathan gilliam, tom fuentes, thank you, gentlemen, as us a. to all of you watching, don't miss the cnn exclusive, perhaps the biggest target, well, we know it's the biggest target of the recent russian and u.s. air strikes as isis' declared capital of syria. we have a special report from nick paton-walsh who gets extraordinarily close to isis headquarters. >> air strikes can repeatedly pound raqqah, but it is here that the ground offensive of the kurds toward isis would have to begin. and still a sense of stalemate. their ultimate goal of raqqah, visible on a good day in the far
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so many innocent lives were lost, so many families were ripped apart. tonight we are hearing from a mother whose son was among those murdered inside of the bataclan here in paris. for days she didn't know where he was, she tried desperately to find him, posting his photo on social media, twitter and facebook until finally, finally she got the awful dreaded news. she sat down with us to share her story. nellie says she remembers her
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son giles as a sensitive man always ready to help his family. he was magnificent, she tells me. he and the love of his life, mary anne, went out for an evening of fun on that friday night. taking this selfie inside the theater waiting for the band to play. it would be their last picture together. gilles threw his body over mary-anne saving her life. but word of gilles condition eluded the family for three days. you looked for your son for three days. >> translator: we always had hope until the very last minute. even until we went to go see him. and then it was over. it was very hard. >> reporter: you can't believe it's over. >> translator: we always hoped during the last three days. >> reporter: the 32-year-old florist and adventurer died that
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night in the attack on the bataclan. tell me about the love between gilles and mary-anne. >> translator: they were very, very -- they were two beings that were very compatible. nellie says her son and mary-anne were soulmates, two loves that found each other and never shared a harsh word. if you were to look the person in the eye who killed your son, what would you say to them? >> translator: i would tell him, he doesn't even deserve that we consider him a human being. it's not a human being. it's not possible. he isn't part of humanity. it's not possible for people like this. even animals don't do this between themselves. it's not possible. it's a monster. >> reporter: but in the face of evil there is also pure beauty. tell me about those flowers. >> translator: it was something that he was planning on doing for her before this all
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happened. gilles sister alexandra tells me about the 200 roses her brother ordered for his girlfriend on their anniversary. they were delivered just days after he died. >> translator: it was to share his love for her. unfortunately, he did not have the time to give it to her himself because he died before then. we were the messages for gilles in his last gift. mary-anne said, even when he's not there, he still managed to surprise me. >> reporter: what do you want the world to know about your brother? >> my brother is a very special boy. >> translator: he did things but not out of self-interest. he did it naturally because he liked to and because it made him happy to help people or to share. he was always there for everyone. >> reporter: she tells me she will write a letter for him to share everything he didn't have
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a chance to say. what is in your heart? >> translator: at the bottom of my heart, that i'll never be able to touch him again. >> reporter: nellie still can't believe she won't hold her son again. he was your baby. >> that's my baby. >> reporter: it is not just. it is not just. it's unbelievable. >> right. >> and this week the people of paris will try as monday morning comes and the sun rises here, they will try to begin living a new normal. as we wrap up our coverage this weekend, it's important to take a moment to reflect. our atika shubert spoke to a musician who has found his own way to help paris heal. there is a man in paris who cycles the streets with a piano
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in tow. he doesn't say much. he doesn't have to. he just parks his piano and begins to play. ♪ for the victims, for the families, for paris. his venue, the memorial at the area where 11 people were gunned down. some cries as they listen. others are moved to sing with him. ♪ >> he receives a warm embrace.
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then he silently packs up and cycles to the next memorial site. just one of the ways paris has found ways to grieve. atika shubert, cnn, paris. >> atika, thank you so much. just one of the extraordinary people that we have met in paris this week. we'll be back live from paris in just a moment. ♪ quiet! mom has a headache! had a headache! but now, i...don't excedrin® is fast. in fact for some, relief starts in just 15 minutes. excedrin®. now available in geltabs. chuck, i know i have a 798 fico score, thanks to kaboom...
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coming up next on cnn, the premier of "the hunting ground." this film is an inspiring look at how two college students,
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both survivors of sexual assault, joint together to challenge universities to better protect their students. >> we've known for probably 25 years now that the problem of sexual assault on college campuses is enormous. >> on college campuses, it is not the person jumping out of the bushes or in the parking lot who is going to rape or sexually assault you. it's the person you may know, that you have classes with, that you see at a party. it's really the people that you do know that you should be worried about. >> i think a lot of parents think, we'll drop our daughter off, she'll have a great college experience, and everything will be fine because the college has a reputation for being a safe place. it's not.
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>> in the ten months since that film's debut, "the hunting ground" has grown from a film to a national movement for change. our alisyn camerota shows us how that happened. >> i got pulled outside and banged my head against a wall and was raped. >> reporter: since its sundance if i am festival premier, "the hunting ground" has been screened at campuses and venues nationwide, including the white house. the president launched the "it's on us" campaign. >> we're here to say it's not on you. this is not your fight alone. this is on all of us. every one of us, to fight campus sexual assault. >> it's consent. >> because sex without it isn't sex. >> it's rape. >> reporter: and based on numerous studies, it's still happening, at a larn alarming r.
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a recent survey involving 27 universities shows 23% of women on college campuses, that's nearly one in four, experiences sexual assault or misconduct. published in september, it's touted as one of the largest studies of its kind, with more than 150,000 students participating. but critics question the findings based on a low response rate, just around 19%. also, the survey relied on voluntary responses, not mandatory, so the sample was not scientific. what do you think of the findings of that survey? >> i have a lot of problems with the way that they defined certain terms. >> reporter: such as? >> they include conduct such as unwanted repeated dinner date requests or telling an offensive sexual joke. >> reporter: attorney kimberly lau has handled nearly 50 cases of sexual assault on college campuses, defending mostly men. she says her clients are victims of overzealous college
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administrators. >> the pendulum has swung way too far in the other direction. what i'm seeing from the male perspective is that the cards are stacked against them. the second they walk in the door, they feel like they're being treated as guilty. >> look. for decades schools refused to investigate these cases at all. survivors know the difference between the time that they maybe weren't crazy about a relationship they were in and when somebody has sexually assaulted or sexually abused them. >> reporter: the governors of california and new york recently signed laws requiring colleges in their states to enforce affirmative consent, meaning everything that isn't yes means no. >> people will say how did we ever accept and tolerate that
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level of sexual violence. >> reporter: lena dunham urges her 3 million twitter followers to see the film. lady gaga, who recently described herself as a victim of sexual assault, was so moved, she lent her voice to "the hunting ground." the song for the film has more than 19 million views and counting. ♪ 'til it happens to you ♪ you won't know ♪ it won't be real >> and stay with cnn tonight, because immediately following the film, cnn's alisyn camerota is hosting a special conversation to explore all sides of the issue in the film with a number of experts and critics. all of that begins in just three minutes. i'm poppy harlow. thanks for being with us tonight. good night from paris.
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good evening. i'm alisyn camerota. tonight, cnn presents a groundbreaking film that examines sexual assault on college campuses. "the hunting ground" looks at college campuses addressing the problem and a student movement demanding change. it sparks strong emotions, from the victims, to the universities. the film tells the stories of survivors, as they call themselves, or accusers, as the law calls them. following the film, we'll explore all sides of the story with a number of leading experts and critics. regardless of the position you take, we believe the stories you will hear tonight needo


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