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eighth paris attacker continues. we have this story continued only the way cnn can. let's begin with clarissa ward in paris. what's the latest, clarissa? >> good morning, alison. well, president francois hollande and british prime minister david cameron went today to the scene of some of the worst violence in those attacks, the bataclan theater and laid flowers there. afterwards, president hollande spoke and laid out three main things that he wants to see happen in europe to prevent more attacks of this nature happening. the first thing he said, there needs to be an effort to improve and strengthen europe's borders. the second thing he said, there needs to be a major crackdown on weapons trafficking within europe. and the third thing, he said, there needs to be an intensification of air strikes on isis, in their territory, in syria and iraq. prime minister david cameron certainly agrees with that. he's pushing parliament very hard to get the british to join the bandwagon, join the
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coalition, and join in those air strikes on syria. in order to push this agenda, hollande will be meeting tomorrow with president barack obama br obama. he will also be meeting with the german chancellor angela merkel, and he will be meeting with russian president vladimir putin. here in france, authorities are trying to identify this man. we'll take a look at this photograph. this was put on the twitter account of french police. this man is believed to be one of the attackers who blew himself up outside the stadium. he is also believed to have traveled to france, using that refugee route. he's believed to have traveled with the other bomber, who we already know is traveling on what is believed to be a fake syrian passport. french authorities here trying to identify both of these men, but today is the first time we've seen this photograph of this man. and i have to tell you guys that security is still very tight here in france. we're hearing that all children going into schools today will have their bags searched by
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authorities. parents are being told, don't congregate outside the school when you're dropping your kids off or picking them up, and france has also taken the step of extending a ban on all forms of protests, all public gathering, until the end of the month. >> thank you for the latest clarissa. meanwhile, brussels remains under the highest threat of terrorist attacks. police arresting 16 people in a raid of anti-terror attacks across the city. this as the international manhunt for that eighth paris attacker intensifies. fled fred pleitgen is live in brussels with that part of the story for us. fred, what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, this city pretty much on lockdown. there's a few people on the street, but far less than you would normally see on a monday morning. this isn't only the capital of belgium, but this is also de facto, the administrative capital of the european union as
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well. and to see so few people out on the streets on a monday morning like this certainly is something that is a great cause for concern. we were here last night and there was a cordoned search operation. i'm right in the center of brussels right now. and the soldiers we spoke to, the police that we spoke to, they were very nervous as they were conducting searches here, trying to see if there was someone suspicious in this area. you can see a vehicle that the belgian military has placed here. and there have been several raids that have gone on overnight. 22 overall, 16 people taken into custody. but the main person they are looking for salah abdeslam, he has not been arrested, and as long as he is not arrested with, this state of emergency here, the terror alert level they have right here is probably not going to go away, although people are saying, they're not sure how much longer they can carry on
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like that, with a major european city essentially in a state of lockdown. >> absolutely, fred, what a situation. thank you for that reporting. well, president obama is back in washington after his nine-day asia trip. he returns to this country on edge after the paris terror attacks, but he's urging americans not to overreact and promising to destroy the terror group. joe johns is live at the white house with more. good morning, joe. >> good morning, alisyn. the president arriving back here in washington right around midnight after that long trip to turkey, the philippines, and malays malaysia. and in that last speech in kuala lumpur, really giving a sense where his head is at after the attacks in paris and also in mali, wading into the notion that fear itself is part of the problem. being afraid of the killers who attacked paris, the killer who is attacked mali is in and of itself one of the biggest problems. listen.
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>> they're a bunch of killers, with good social media. >> so, now, the president is going to have a whole week of dealing with some of these issues, including the visit of french president hollande here at the white house on tuesday. he's going to meet with him, talk more about the response to terrorism. after that, of course, hollande moves on to russia, as there are hopes that a broad coalition now can form to fight isis. back to you. >> all right, joe, thank you very much. let's bring in cnn senior international correspondent, clarissa ward and michael weiss, cnn contributor and co-author of isis inside the army of terror. let's get to the ground there, clarissa. the reports are that there is still this frenzy of activity to try to get their hands around the threat, that they keep learning more and more about potential urgency. what are you hearing and seeing? >> well, i think they keep learning more and more, every
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raid that had do. and they've done more than 800 in the last week alone, chris. but there's also a sense that this has spread beyond france now. we've seen these raids in belgium. there's rumors that the eighth attacker, salah abdeslam, was spotted in germany or even the netherlands. this has really become now a pan-european effort. but here in france, i would say one of the main focuses is trying to find out who was the third man in that saint-denis apartment where the architect of these attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud was killed. we know he was killed alongside a 26-year-old woman, believed to be his cousin, but we also know there was a third man in that apartment, he was wearing an explosive vest, and we don't yet know who he is. in conjunction with that, authorities also still trying to identify, chris, two of these bombers, who both blew themselves up at the stadium. who both allegedly took that refugee route, believed to be traveling on fake syrian
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passports. so french authorities still trying to identify some of the key players who are involved with these attacks. chris? >> michael, when you're talking to the guys on the ground there who are doing the investigating, the word overwhelmed keeps coming up. that they have good capabilities, but in and around france, they have a unique situation there of a muslim population that's disenfranchised, radicalized, and has a lot of access to damage. how unique is france in terms of the united states, in, should we be looking at them and afraid we're next. >> it has a lot in common with great britain. i lived in london for three years, there were entire districts of neighborhood where you feel like you're stepping into a foreign country. it has become that ghettoized, for lack of a better term, unfortunately. the problem with something like this is, okay, you have this devastating attack. really, europe's 9/11, even eclipsing madrid in terms of the spectacle and the mass outrage. you now have to go in and
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disrupt all of these networks and sleeper cells that you kind of, sort of knew existed, but didn't deem to be an imminent or credible threat. >> can they? >> no, i think it's very hard. we're talking about a european-wide dragnet. this doesn't even stay in france or belgium. it go to greece, italy, germany. within a matter of hours, if you're on the continent, you could be in any country. abdeslam could be anywhere. who's the fourth, fifth, sixth guy? according to cnn in january, paul cruickshank did a very good report and according to european officials, there are about 20 sleeper cells scattered throughout europe with about as many as 180 operatives. you can do the math. how many terror attacks since then? and of them, how many have been arrested or killed? so quite a large majority remain, if that figure is to be accurate. so this is months and months of
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investigations and counterattacks. we haven't even see the tip of the iceberg. >> and it would be surprising if these didn't spur more attacks. the result of a lot of this pressure is this increased recognition that the fight needs to be taken to syria. what are you seeing in terms of possible public support of that? because france had been unwilling to go in there and get on the ground as well. do you see a change? >> well, certainly, president francois hollande, that's been one of the main rallying cries that we've heard over and over and over from him. we are at war. we need to intensify efforts to hit isis in their home in syria and iraq. we know now that the french aircraft carrier has arrived in the gulf. and you're trying to see him rally support internationally for a more focused effort on attacking isis. he's got david cameron, the british prime minister here in town today. david cameron has been trying to persuade the british parliament for some time now that the brits
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need to be involved in this effort to attack isis with air strikes inside syria, he's also going to be meeting with the german chancellor, angela merkel, with president obama, and also with the russian president, vladimir putin. but there is a realization creeping in. you see it in newspapers, you read it in analysis, that air strikes alone will not be enough to defeat this enemy. so perhaps there is a sense of creeping awareness or realization that more will need to be done. but at this stage, i would say it's largely confined to editorials and analysis. i wouldn't say you've seen any real outpouring of public support to do more than hit them with air strikes. >> sounds right, clarissa. when i got back here, i had a lot of messages from bm buddieso were like, slow down. the idea that because hollande comes here and visits and that
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triggers them to come here. that's far fetched. they don't believe there's the operation of public support for it. your take. >> you talk to people in the state department at the lower and middle levels, they're sort of sweating bullets every day. saying, we've got a year and change on the clock with this administration, let's pray nothing happens. because if it does, you'll see boots on the ground. and it's inevitable. if you talk to any military commander on the record, off the record, they will say, you cannot run a guerilla insurgency by dropping bombs from the sky. fallujah, 2004, we leveled that city. leveled it. turned it into a pocked moonscape. and within the first week of major combat operations, they had already set up shop in mosul. that's how they operate. so i think what we're doing, i agree with the president's urge to keep calm and not get alarmist, particularly on the syrian refugee issue, which we can talk about another time, but
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there is this sense of inevitability. it's not going to be under his administration, but the next one. >> we all know what the threat is, and then what happens when you go in and fight it and don't stay. there are layers of decisions that will have to be made. thank you very much for the perspective, clarissa, stay safe. all right, breaking news. 16 people rushed to the hospital following a shoot-out in a new orleans park. police say about 500 people, at least 500 people, including children and teens were there filming a music video. witnesses say that's when several people started shooting into that crowd. detectives are combing the neighborhood, trying to find any surveillance video of the suspects. friends and family standing by "washington post" journalist jason resign after iran's state news agency reported that he has been sentenced to prison. the newspaper says he's innocent and the state department is calling on iran to vacate his sentence and send him home. rezaian had been held in a
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iranian jail for nearly 500 days. donald trump back on top of the polls. new numbers from abc news and a "washington post" poll shows trump holding his ten-point lead over ben carson among republicans. but the front-runner is under fire once again claiming he saw people in muslim areas of new jersey celebrating as the world trade center towers came crashing down. that has been wildly debunked. he also appeared to justify the actions of some of his supporters who got physical, really beat up a protester at a trump event last week, saying, quote, maybe he should have been roughed up. well, perhaps you have never seen isis. in fact, you never have seen isis this close. cnn takes you within miles of the isis headquarters in syria. what is life like in that terror stronghold? we have a cnn exclusive you do not want to miss, next.
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in response to the terror attacks in paris and the downing of a russian jet, both france
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and russia have ramped up air strikes against isis targets in syria. for the first time, cnn is getting a look at the situation on the ground in syria, miles away from isis' stronghold, raqqah. cnn's nick paton walsh made that daring journey and joins us now with his exclusive report. nick? >> reporter: michaela, all the talk of air strikes here, the intense pounding of raqqah is also coupled with discussions about a ground defense, and how can you dislodge isis from what they call their capital without troops on the ground? it is remarkable to see how kurdish forces who have american support, how close they've actually got to raqqah. after paris, the sinai, in the crosshairs is here. raqqah, lost in the haze, yet they can hear it. loud thuds, heaviest of dusk. three days ago, he says, we saw
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three air strikes southerly hit just nearby and the french said they'd started bombing. we'll do our best to avenge paris. he, like the other young kurdish fighters here, have lost friends, but say fighting isis is a duty for humanity rather than vengeance, as they man a series of trenches and outposts about 20 miles from the city. we have just heard the distant thuds of what could have been two air strikes, but from where we're standing, here is the kurdish front line, a trench dug, as far as we can see, and then all in this direction, flat, open land, until you reach the outskirts of raqqah, the capital of isis' self-declared caliphate. >> reporter: four russian missiles hit raqqah this day, activists say, but otherwise, it's the silence of stalemate in the desert. weapons here are scant. this man carries the ak-47 of his friend, who died eight months ago. out here in the flat, open ground, with isis in the next village, they still scorn isis'
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leaders and welcome help. if french, russian, or american fighters, this commander says, come here to fight, we'll cooperate with them, as we are all fighting to clean the area of isis for humanity. isis left their mark on nearby an alisa, even the mosque littered with mines. the silence here is breathtaking. this is directly the road down to raqqah and you can just hear the complete absence of human life. there is little in victory left to fight for. on the way out, we meet these guys. they don't look much like white nights, but that's what the pentagon hopes they are. the syrian democratic forces, getting american aid, who explain, they've secured the major deflection of sunni tribes inside raqqah to fight isis.
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we weren't expecting this large number to join, but there are now 4,000 tribesmen, he says. when we want to move, all of them are ready, and we've already managed to sneak weapons to them. we're moving forward. western leaders call this a global fight, but here, alone, you feel the dust, death, and determination. >> nick, so powerful, what you've seen there and experienced. give us an ideas, from those that you're talking to on the ground, how effective that air assault is. >> reporter: for those kurds, they are a series of thuds in the distance of intense fire, but activists inside raqqah has been giving a long list of targets, they believe, have been hit by those french and possibly russian air strikes, too. and they seem to focus mostly on key parts of infrastructure. large buildings of roundabouts. something called the al shabaab club, it's a youth club, effectively. even the fact that some of these munitions dropped, we can't
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corroborate. types of device that penetrate human flesh and kill everything in sight, really, have potentially been used as well. those air strikes intense. the question being, what happened to civilians who may have been caught up in them and how did this large number of targets given that u.s. craft has been over that city already. >> air traffic stepping up. we've learned over the weekend flights between baghdad and erbil have been canceled. tell us more about what's happening to air travel there. >> well, all flights out of iraq have been canceled for a 48-hour period, we understand. that includes those leaving for the erbil area in northern iraq and those in baghdad, too. until wednesday morning, local time. that is because, airport fishes and security officials say, they are potentially concerned about a large number of cruise missiles flying across the country at that stage. that can only be from one direction. that will be the caspian sea, where the russian navy has a substantial number of vessels. as i should say, we did have
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similar warnings about beirut airport in the past few days. that turned out, the air space there said it should close, but lebanese government didn't adhere to that, nothing happened. but it does appear that some flights are being canceled here now. we have yet to see quite why, but that certain notion that in the hours ahead, we may see intense bombardment, potentially from russian craft in the caspian. >> certainly seems like a sign of that. give us a sense of these syrian democratic forces that you had a time with. how well-equipped and prepared are they? >> reporter: we can't see them in their full, in their entirety, and there is certainly a belief that they are an essential part in making the custodyish for kurdish forces, to allow sunnis, arabs into their ranks, and to make the fight for raqqah seem less like a kurdish land grab, so to speak. we saw some of them.
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they appear to be well organized. they do have americans nearby. they will admit to that, but off-camera, they did mumble something to that effect and they are obviously receiving weapons and training. do they have the numbers? we simply don't know. inside that report, members they have thousands of sunni tribesmen willing to rise up and assist them. but the optimism is the only thing you can say about it happening anytime soon. >> thank you so much for all of that and giving us a look inside the situation on the ground. thanks, nick. well, mali is widening its investigation into friday's hotel terror attack as a third group claims to be in on this siege. what an american survivor says about living through this attack, next. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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a third islamist group is now claiming responsibility for friday's deadly attack on a hotel in the capital of mali. now, at least 22 people were killed there along with two of the attackers. now mali is widening its investigation. it's looking for more suspects. we're also learning more about what it was like inside. we have cnn international correspondent dave mackenzie with more. morning, dave, what do we know now? >> reporter: morning, chris. i'm right outside this hotel, which was attacked in this brutal terror rampage and hostage tacking, just a couple of days ago. what we're learning is that authorities are widening the search, looking for both potential and attackers and those who colluded with him to make this happen. there was definitely a level of planning in this attack. what we're learning is that they managed to walk into the so-called secure area, into the hotel, and start shooting people at random. i spoke to a specialist of the
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center for disease control in atlanta. she said that she was terrified, but her training saved her life. >> was there any point, really, any moment where you thought, okay, this is it. this is the end of the road? >> when the shooting came down the hallway. i was more nervous. i wasn't sure, but it wasn't going to end. i was going home. i knew i was going home. >> well, chris, she described how thankful she was that the malian security forces freed her. they had a secret code, a code not shared publicly and when they came to the door, they used that code and kathy moved out of the barricade she had created to the door and went out with those
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forces saying, hmsaying,merci,ml the way down the hall. >> david mackenzie, let us know if anything develops there. stay safe. alisyn? >> well, world leaders zeroing in on isis. how the war plan is changing. we bring you the military perspective, next. other wireless carriers make families share data. some way to say happy holidays. switch to t-mobile now and get 4 lines with up to 6gb each,
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so here's the news. british prime minister david cameron will call for the uk to join the coalition launching air strikes on isis in syria. but there's more. he's also proposing billions in new defense spending to tackle the isis threat. cameron met with hollande this morning in paris. hollande is getting ready to fly to washington to meet with president obama to make a similar appeal to expand this war on isis. paris and brussels keeping unprecedented precautions in place at schools and public transit, over concerns of more terror attacks. a global manhunt for the eighth paris attacker now entering its
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tenth day, with one source saying they are tracking the suspect's movements and they, quote, make no sense. president obama strengthening his tone against isis, saying the united states will obliterate the terror group. >> destroying isil is not only a realistic goal, we're going to get it done and pursue it with every aspect of american power and with all the coalition partners that we've assembled. it's going to get done. >> but now that isis has proven it can strike outside of iraq and syria, how will the war against isis change? let's bring in retired general spider marks, an executive dean with the university of phoenix. great to see you this morning. so now russia and france and the u.s. all carrying out air strikes against isis targets. is it your impression that these are working? >> yeah, the air strikes are working, but they need to increase the volume and ferocity of these things. we have experience in the past
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where we -- a collective body has conducted these air strikes and have made them absolutely smothering and air bleeding. you know, in our most recent past, we did this against meloovich in the air campaign. so there's a comparison to be drawn, that we can increase the air campaign and the strength of that, but we need to be prepared for ground forces. that's not an intellectual leap from the insertion of the 82nd airborne right into the middle of raqqah. there are plenty of options. >> such as, spider? spell that out for us. what does your vision of ground force mean? >> can do. initially, what we can do, we can create in northern iraq, let's take that piece of terrain where the kurds and the iraqi security forces have secured a portion of it, agenda to the syrian border in sin jar, in that particular area, the united states in concert with regional partners could create what's called a theater support
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command. and within that support element, you could have logistics, you could have attack aviation, you could have training and equip missions so we could put some the additional firepower into those forces on the ground that are willing to fight. we can conduct medical, we can conduct a whole bunch of operations that would allow for a really proximate and persistent presence that would allow operations to be conducted. we could use that as a staging base for joint special operations, into specific targets. so you could build that, help train and equip, and take it it to the next level. it's not an immediate jump to let's put the 81st or the 102nd on the ground. >> spider, let me tell you what centcom are the biggest operations. they have gotten 20 headquarter buildings, nearly 100 logistics areas, nearly 100 weapons caches, and hit key oil supplies. so how is it possible they've carried off the paris attacks.
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that looks like an comprehensive list of targets, but somehow isis is still extremely operational. >> they are. and what you're looking at, those targets are absolutely essential for the predominance of isis to conduct operations and to hold the caliphate that they've created, you know, superimposed over two countries, both iraq and syria. but when you look at the paris attacks, this is a very precise, special operations that they were able to conduct. so it's a combination, it's a full array of capabilities that isis has from conventional forces, and again, remember that the leadership of isis were the former leaders in saddam's military. so they're conventionally trained, they know how to run these things. but they also have the capability to go light, go quick, and to sneak through these different filters that exist in a very open europe. as you know, you can drive from damascus to calais, and that's exactly what's happening. so it's not unusual that we would see both of these kinds of capabilities, even though we're striking targets with success in iraq and syria. >> spider, we've had so many
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people on in the past week to say that there is no military solution to fighting isis. and it sounded like even this weekend, defense secretary chuck hagel seemed to echo that sentiment. let me play for you what he said. >> i always felt that we needed to more clearly define our political strategy along with our military strategy. because it's my opinion, it certainly was the opinion of the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, marty dempsey, he can speak for himself, but it is our opinion there is no military solution to this. >> spider, do you agree with that? you've just spelled out what you see as your military solution for what they should do next. do you think there is no military solution to fighting isis? >> alisyn, there's no single solution of all the elements of power, you can't just have a military solution without an overarching strategy that louse it to fit. but you also have diplomaic and
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economic efforts that need to be put in place. the military is always the one of first place because it can solve problems this an immediate sense. it's not a full solution. i don't think anyone is suggesting that military alone is going to solve this problem. we've got to change the conditions on the ground and what you don't hear from this administration is that this is intergenerational. this challenge that we see in the mideast right now is not going away anytime soon, until we start to change the direction of how these young men can be recruited in this incredibly cynical, you know, this amazing appeal of isis. it baffles us, but this is what's drawing them in. it's a long-term solution, but the military has got to -- we've got to be able to step this up in order to start putting some real punishment against isis, or we will see more. >> spider marks, always great to get your expertise. thanks so much for being here on "new day." the question whether or not to bring syrian refugees to the
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all right. we have seen a turn in things in the election and we must discuss. new national polling from abc news and "the washington post" shows it's working. donald trump, a commanding lead over the gop field, beating second place rival ben carson now by double digits. his numbers holding steady, high despite or perhaps because of controversial rhetoric against accepting refugees from syria and supporting surveillance of muslims and more in the united states. let's discuss cnn political analyst and presidential campaign correspondent for "the new york times," maggie hitch and political commentator errol louis. look at the numbers. the numbers do not lie.
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he is getting purchase for what he is doing and there's no coincidence. how he's getting these numbers, as interesting to you as the numbers themselves? >> yes, and has been this whole time. i do think there was a school of thought that after the paris attacks, would people start looking towards more policy-minded, more serious-minded who were talking with more detail. that's not what's happening. he is speaking to those fears in very glaring, very sort of graphic terms, but that is what he is doing. whether that means he can grow beyond what he has now, has been the question we've been debating here for months now. he has been basically capped at a certain level of support, not much above 30% this whole time. that means there's about 70% of the republican gop primary electorate that's up for grabs for someone else if they can consolidate it. >> let's talk about what donald trump has been saying in glaring terms, as maggie just said. he's been given his rationale for cracking down on refugees and mosques. and part of what he says is that
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after 9/11 he saw here in this country, in new jersey, people celebrating, as the towers came down. no one else has been able to see that. that was not -- people have gone back -- >> that didn't happen, right? >> people have gone back to look at newscasts and people have not seen that. >> the police say that didn't happen and all those rumors have been on the internet for some time. so did you misspeak -- >> it did happen. i saw it with my own eyes. george, it did happen. there were people that were cheering on the other side of new jersey where you have large arab populations, they were cheering as the world trade center came down. i know it might not be politically correct for you to talk about, but there were people cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down. and that tells you something. it was well covered at the time, george. >> okay, it was not well covered and we can't find any evidence of it. is that a problem for donald
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trump? >> well, probably not, unfortunately. if you dig deeper into those same polls we're talking about, the same voters say he's not the most experienced. they say jeb bush is. they say he's not the most honest and trustworthy. they say that ben carson is. but they think he'll bring change. they think he's most likely to win and that's why he's in the lead. it's not because he's factual or because he respects the constitution, it's not because he tells the truth. there are questions about all of those things. the people who support him support him for different reasons. so the rest of us are kind of watching us, you know, with our mouths hanging open, saying, how can you get on national tv and basically support the beating of somebody at one of your rallies. how can you get on national tv and talk about something that never happened and insist that it did happen and just kind of move on. i didn't think it will affect his poll standings. >> and when he says it, it works. and the reason it works is because they agree with him. he is playing into an us versus
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them mentality. look at the numbers on the syrian situation. look at what the american people say, all right. we haven't seen numbers like this in america since 1938, when people were obviously desperate, obviously are upping for their lives, yet the fear of what they may mean overcame any of the rationality. 53% are with him. they believe it as much as they do. and he did it to george. george is as smart as we have in the business, he says, this didn't happen. donald says, yes win saw it, and he says, i know it's not politically correct for you to talk about it, george. that was as useful to him as anything else he said in that interview. because it made the people listening say, that's right, george is one of them, he's not one of us. and when trump says this, why are they being unfair know on that show again. and that will also boost his numbers, because they'll say, here's another example of the media not being where the
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american people are. >> the only thing i think is the exception of this. and he started doing this thing about september 11th and what happened and people cheering in new jersey at his rally in alabama. and he was more specific, i was in jersey city where thousands and thousands of people -- that was the quote. >> oh, he was there? >> thousands and thousands of people -- and he was there. >> he also wasn't there. in an interview about a week later, he was in his office when it happened. but be that as it may, he does say these things. he says things that are factually questionable. and to your point, the way he detail with this other controversy that started last week with the muslim registry, he has yet to say where he actually is on that. he said, i was talking about the wall, but a database is okay. he got asked about it by george yesterday. he said, are you ruling that out, no, not at all. he talks about policy in a very
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broad way and the only way to try to drill down with him is to offer a sort of menu of options. and in response, he will then say, as he did on saturday, people are being politically correct when they don't want me to talk about this. it works with his supporters. . >> errol, to close this off full circle, back to his poll numbers, he's leading nationally, and i remember pundits saying that his ceiling was 25 or 28. now he's at 32. his ceiling seems to creep up. are you still sure that this is the ceiling? >> well, i have no idea what the ceiling is. i'm just reflecting what pollsters have told me. they've been saying from the beginning, high floor, low ceiling. this will all play out when the polling actually starts. there are a couple of big events that are going to possibly -- >> start. >> yeah, when you go to the polls and actually start casting votes, as we've seen in past elections, that can change everything. and, you know, once again, a little reminder, in about 70 days now, 70 days out in the 2012 cycle, it was herman cain. he was leading everybody.
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rick santorum was in eighth place. he eventually won. we don't know where this will all head. >> a very nationalized race. the iowa straw poll, the debates have become very driving. we're in a different kind of election. so we'll see. >> yeah. >> maggie, errol, thank you. >> i just think that donald trump is no herman cain. i think this is something that's much more real. >> i agree. >> i care with maggie thinks. i also care what you think. get on twitter and facebook. keep this conversation going. >> this is something we'll be discussing as well. video of a chicago police officer shooting a black teenager. that video is about to be released. the city is preparing for the possibility of the unrest. we'll take you live to chicago, x in. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts.
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chicago leaders are gearing up for the potential of unrest this weekend. the city is set to release video of a white police officer gunning down a black teenager. top officials calling for calm. some people, though, already fired up. cnn's ryan young is live in chicago following all the latest developments for us. ryan? >> reporter: michaela, let's
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talk about this. people are really worried about what happens when this video gets released. in fact, over 200 members from the community met this weekend to talk about a plan for what happens when the video is finally released. the video said to be very disturbing. police dash cam video showing 17-year-old la kwan mcdonald being fatally shot 16 times by a white officer. it's ordered to be released to the public no later than wednesday. many have already seen the footage from october of last year say it's tough to watch. >> even when he was on the ground, the officer was still shooting him. >> in october 2014, police were called to investigate a man with a knife trying to break into vehicles. authorities say mcdonald has a 4-inch knife and was acting erratically, slashing an officer's order. police say when he ignored orders to drop it, officer van dyk unloaded 16 rounds into his body. >> there was a narrative put out there that a police officer had
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to shoot him in self-defense, that he was approaching a police officer and was shot. it's not true. >> reporter: the autopsy showed some of the bullets entered his back. officer van dyk says he shot mcdonald in self-defense. >> we're confident my kliclient actions were not only lawful, but also within department policy and within his training. >> reporter: now the city of chicago is bracing for the possibility that the video of mcdonald's death will ignite violent protests. activists are calling for calm. >> we have the right, the first amendment right to assemble peacefully and express our grievances against our government. and that's what we plan on doing. >> reporter: in april, the city reached a $5 million settlement with the mcdonald family. >> reporter: charges have not been filed against the officer. he's on desk duty. the victim's own mother says she does not want to see this video,
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but you can see why people in chicago are bracing for what happens next. >> we'll watch you, stay there on the ground and watch what happens and hopefully calm will remain in chicago. thank you very much for that. we are following a whole lot of news, so let's get right to it. brussels remains under the highest terror threat amid warnings of an impending attack. >> together, we will destroy this evil threat. >> the security and safety of the residents of brussels is something that is paramount. >> they're terrorists and we kill them. >> i watched surveillance of certain mosques. >> right now it is impossible to vet who is coming out of syria. >> what we need to do is protect the homeland first. >> nobody trusts the president to process the refugees. >> my nephew shot in the back. even when he was on the ground, the officer was still shooting him. >> we have a duty to hold accountable the people that we pay to protect us. >> we're confident that my client's actions were not only
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lawful, but also within department policy. >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota, and michaela pereira. >> welcome back to "new day," everyone. we want to welcome our viewers around the world. british prime minister david cameron will make his case to parliament for the u.s. to join the air strikes following an increase in defense spending approaching $200 billion. >> big meeting today between cameron and the french president in paris and the french president will come to meet with president obama in washington tomorrow. all of this is about making a joint effort and stepping up the war against isis, not with the u.s., france, and the suk alone but major european cities all coming together. as we see what's happening in brussels right now, unprecedented precautions in place to prevent further bloodshed in the wake of the attack in paris. cnn has all angles on the global war on terror covered this morning. let's start with clarissa ward in paris.
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>> reporter: good morning, chris. well, we saw the french president francois hollande go along with the british prime minister david cameron to the scene of some of the worst violence in those paris attacks. they laid flowers at the bataclan theater. and afterwards, president hollande outlined three crucial areas that he thinks needs to be improved upon in order to prevent these types of attacks from happening again. number one, he said that europe's borders need to be strengthened. we know that some of these men had spent time in syria, some of these attackers. they were able to get back into central europe detected, because they weren't flying directly into france, they were flying into other countries and making their way by land into france. number two, he wants to see a real crackdown on weapons trafficking within europe. where did they get those heavy weapons, those ak-47s. and number three, he wants to bolster support for intensified air strikes on isis inside syria and iraq. as you mentioned, british prime
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minister david cameron expected to take that to parliament yet again. he's been pushing for that for quite some time. here in france, authorities have released a photograph of this man. they believe this is one of the attackers who's blew himself up outside the stadium. he's believed to have traveled along that refugee route, alongside another one of the attackers who was traveling on what is believed to be a fake syrian passport. french authorities now still trying to identify this man. so far, only four of the eight attackers have been identified. and france is still very much on high alert. schools here, children having their bags checked as they arrive at school, parents being told, don't lottery when you're collecting your children or dropping them off at school. and france even extending this bag on all public assemblies, all demonstrations until the end of the month now. michaela? >> clarissa, thanks for letting us know what the situation is on the ground there in paris. meanwhile, in brussels, it remains under the highest terror alert amid warnings of an
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imminent threat. several people rounded up in a series of anti-terror raids, as the international manhunt for that eighth paris attacker intensifies. cnn's senior international correspondent frederick pleitgen is live in brussels with the latest for us, fred? >> reporter: yeah, michaela, there were some major anti-terror raids going on in the brussels area and also in other areas here in belgium, within the past 24 hours. and originally, we'd heard that 16 people had been detained in those raids. now it appears as though the federal prosecutor here have put that number up to five additional being detained. we are 21 at this point in time. however, the main person that they've been looking for, salah abdeslam, who is, of course, implicated in the attacks that happened in paris last friday, is the man that everybody is looking for here in belgium, he apparently is not among those who was arrested so far. meanwhile, as you said, the city remains in a state of lockdown. the subway system isn't working. the schools are closed. many shops are closed as well. and when you look at the scene here in central brussels, there
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are a lot fewer people. it's almost eerily calm here. keep in mind, this is a monday sort of early afternoon at this point in time. this is not only the capital of belgium, but in my ways, of course, also the mentorive capital of europe. and instead of many people pouring in here as would normally happen, what you have is you have soldiers on the street, you have a lot of police on the street, you have armored vehicles on the street, trying to make sure that nothing happens. as that terror alert level iv, the highest that this country has, which warns of an imminent threat remains in place here, it's unclear at this point in time how long that imminent threat level is going to stay in place, chris. >> it seems the more they learn, the more they realize they cannot control there. fred pleitgen, thank you very much. president obama meeting tomorrow with french president hollande to talk about what this bigger plan will be to destroy isis. and he's urging americans not to overreact to the terror threat here at home. cnn washington correspondent joe johns a to the white house this
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morning. tough balance. this is the most important war there is, but don't be too scared. >> reporter: i think it is a tough balance. the president arriving back here at the white house, a little afternoon midnight, after that long trip to turkey, the philippines, and malaysia. while he was on the road, he was subjected to some sharp criticism on capitol hill from some republicans and even some democrats about the tone he took in addressing the attacks. in his last appearance in kuala lumpur, trying to bring it all together, the various threads in this talk of terrorism, including that issue of syrian refugees and whether they should be allowed into the united states. the president saying, fear is the thing that americans should fight. listen. >> they're a bunch of killers with good social media. the most powerful tool we have to fight isil is to say that
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we're not afraid. >> the president will dive back into the anti-terror talk on tuesday, with a visit from french president hollande here at the white house. also, apparently, a meeting with reporters after that. then hollande will actually move on to russia, to sit down with putin and talk to him. apparently the very same issues. it will be a long week of terror talk. >> joe, thanks so much for that. let's bring in along paul cruickshank and julia kayyem. it's great to have both of you on hand this morning, because a lot's happening. what's going on in belgium is just incredible. 21 people arrested in belgium, which feels reacti, because why didn't they arrest them before last friday? but what do you see about what paul's just reported about what's going on in belgium -- i mean, about what fred has? >> there is unprecedented concern in belgium from
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authorities right now. they're shaking the tree hard. the concern is both about salah abdeslam, that he's back in brussels, back in belgium, but also about the wider logistical support network, which is thought, perhaps, to be harboring him, and also supporting the paris attackers. the worry is, there's another attack team out there, that they have explosives, that they have weapons. belgian police don't have a handle on where these guys are, and that's why they're shaking the tree so hard. no weapons or explosives found in those raids overnight, though. >> because, juliette, schools closed today, on monday, the subway system shut down. this can't just be about the so-called eighth attacker still on the loose there. >> well, they say it's not, they said it was imminent, but now we're a couple days past imminent. and i don't how this is sustainable for this city or any european city. what are the criteria for opening belgium back up, if he is not found within the next 8
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to 10 hours? this is going to be a challenge for all urban cities, throughout the world, who face terrorism. and at some stage, belgium has to stay, well, the criteria is going to be x, y, and z, but we have to get back to normal. it's not unique to belgium, but certainly, this is the most draconian case we've ever seen. >> paul, the imminent threat, what do you think that is? they must know that something was planned for belgium. >> there is some intelligence that they've received, either through these interrogations, some of these people they've arrested, related to the paris attacks or some other stream of intelligence which suggests to them an imminent threat, particularly to the capital. brussels, they're extremely concerned about this. that's why the city is essentially on lockdown. people are essentially being told to stay home. they're worried there's another attack team out there, perhaps that have trained in syria, come back to belgium. we've seen over a hundred belgium extremists come back to belgium from syria, trained killers, that they haven't got a
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good handle on. and that's why you have these extraordinary measures. the belgian authorities are saying that these security measures will stay in place as long as is necessary. i don't think anybody can blame them after what we saw play out in paris. these are exceptional and extraordinary times. >> but juliette, people should be concerned in belgium and officials should be concerned in belgium, with everything we've learned since the paris attacks, everything that paul just said, a hundred extremists and killers that have come back, we know that belgium is a hotbed. it's almost surprising that they haven't done something this draconian before last prfriday. >> absolutely, and second-gue second-guessing what they're doing right now is not going to solve the problem, that they have a persistent threat in their city and country from these syrian fighters. even if they disrupt one cell here, as paul was saying, there might be multiple ones. so these draconian responses might have been in response to a specific intelligence stream
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that told them a threat was imminent. but the idea that you can keep this city under lockdown until sol threat, some imminent threat is minimized sort of begs the question, when is that going to be? it may be a particular arrest, but we're not there yet. this is a challenge for all european cities, let alone american ones. the runway for these guys to go get radicalized, get trained, and launch an attack appears to be two weeks now, right? compare this to the days of al qaeda when you had a decade to figure out what was going on. so i recognize that the threat is there. it's just that imminency, if we say it's imminent and shut down cities all the time, you'll have a very unworkable response to the terror threat we're now facing. >> paul, i know you have some new reporting on the paris attacks and the investigation and is so-called ringleader or the ringleader's superior.
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what have you learned? >> that european security officials believe that the senior ringleader behind this plot was fabian claude, who is a senior french fighter in isis. he's the guy that claimed responsibility in an audio tape the day after the attacks, and he spoke of an attack that was meant to have taken place in the 18th arrondissement of paris, but that attack actually never took place, and investigators belief that salah abdeslam may have actually aborted a plan to launch an attack there. but the fact that fabian claude was talking about meticulously selected targets and an attack on the 18th arrondissement, which never happened, suggested that he had foreknowledge of this plan, because otherwise he would have just reacted to media attacks and have not talked about the 18th arrondissement. so all this talk about that fabian claude may be the senior ringleader in this attack, someone who's still in raqqah, in syria, in a senior position in the isis hierarchy, who is
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still plotting to send more waves of belgium and french and european isis recruits back to launch a rolling series of attacks. it's believed he was working in tandem with abdelhamid abaaoud, the junior ringleader of the plot, who was sent over to france with the plotters. >> and juliette, at last, this just speaks -- everything that paul had just reported speaks to the notion that you can't ever celebrate too much that one ringleader has been, you know, eliminated or arrested because the ladder just keeps going up. >> that's right. and this is the world we live in, it is scary, and i recognize that, and our response has to be proportionate to this persistent fear. every city is going to face at some stage what belgium is facing right now. and to close it down for an indefinite period has not only an economic impact, which we're hearing about already, but the
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psychological impact that a single individual can close down an entire city. look, i'm from boston. we closed down a city for ten hours during the hunt for the younger tsarnaev brother. i recognize during a hunt, we sometimes need to do that. but we're heading into day three and it's unsustainable, economically, but also, i think, psychologically, for the europeans. >> paul and juliette, thanks so much for your expertise. great to have you on this morning. secretary of state john kerry is looking to tackle major issues on a three-day trip to the middle east. kerry is in abu dhabi today to meet with top officials from the united arab elm rats. the goal, to build a coalition to lead peace talks to try to end a civil war in syria. secretary kerry will travel to israel and the palestinian territories where he'll continue the ongoing effort to stop the bloodshed in jerusalem and the west bank. eight people are dead and eight others injured after a suicide bombing at a military checkpoint in nigeria. it happened sunday.
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the victims were mostly women and children undergoing security careening. they had been displaced from their homes by the terror group boko haram. there's no claim of responsibility yet for this attack. an historic election in arrangen t archen tarch arrangen tina. the mayor of buenos aires beat the current president's hand-picked selectee by three points. indianapolis police have arrested an 18-year-old suspect in the home invasion killing of a pastor's pregnant wife. police say larry taylor faces a preliminarily charge of murder in the death of amanda blackburn. davey blackburn discovered his wife's body when he returned from the gym on november 10th. their 1-year-old son was in the home at the time. fortunately, he was unarmed. syrian refugees, the obama administration says that they'll be thoroughly vetted. that's what the u.n. says as well, but donald trump and other
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welcome back to "new day." republican presidential candidates are ramping up their rhetoric against letting syrian refugees into the united states. front-runner donald trump insists there should even be a refugee database. take a listen. >> we have no idea who these people are. when the syrian refugees will start pouring into this country, we don't know if they're isis, we don't know if it's a trojan horse, and i definitely want a database and other checks and balances. >> the fear is real. is it supported by the facts? as we start this, i want to show you this picture we have up behind our guest. cnn's global economic analyst, also the assistant managing editor at "time" magazine, this is the reality in syria. look at the buildings, look where they live, look at the masses of people, okay? that's the picture. you can see lots of things in here. you can see desperation. you can see a lot of young warrior-age men that we're very afraid of right now. so the crisis is clear. the question is what, if
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anything, is to be done about it here. the main concern of fact versus fiction, when we go through this is, where are they? okay, here's where refugees have been taken, ranna, how long have we been accepting refugees into this country? >> well, many years, just since 9/11, there's been 785,000 refugees brought in. in many different states. 136 different states, 138 deferent cities. all over the country, for some time, now. >> since 9/11. >> since 9/11. >> almost 900,000. the number of arrests literally, statistically, impossible to quantify. maybe two or three. >> twelve have been either arrested or sent out of the country. but that's a fragment of 1%. >> and not all on terror charges? >> the state department doesn't give out that information. >> these are states now that don't want syrian refugees here. you see the numbers there, but the numbers, this red shading belies a consensus. the polls show it. the poll shows that 50 plus percent say, don't let them in.
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and why? well, look at this. will the syrian refugee carry out an attack on the u.s.? that's the core fear. >> very striking. >> let's call it 50%. >> it's incredible. half of the population thinks there's going to be a terror attack if we let these folks in. >> again, the facts. 785. that's what ranna just told you. about a dozen arrested or removed. so this makes it's hard to make the case to keep them out based on what they've done here. but what about the fear of the unknown? >> there's always the fear of the unknown, but all the research about refugees not only in the u.s., but overseas as well, shows there's a huge economic impact. a lot of this depends on how they're settled. there's a process and the process has to be done right in order for it the to work. >> so i say, you're just adding another "if." if they're not established well or resettled well, that's another problem. and syria, this is the hotbed of war going on at its most destabilized.
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i look at this picture bnt you and see lots of people who are desperate and angry and now they may be desperate and angry at me and that is enough for me to keep them out. how do you combat that with your statistics? what has happened since 9/11. we have seen a lot of terror in a lot of places. but we've let in almost 800,000 people. we've had a tiny fraction of that have any kind of a problem. most of these people are coming because they want something better. they want to get out of their country. and it would be really a cruel irony if they're trying to leave a war-torn place. they can't be established in a better country and make a better life for themselves. that would be a sad thing. >> stay. economists say find an area in syria and keep them there. no reason for them to come here or anywhere else. >> that's one argument to be made. but the fact is syria is not going to get better anytime soon. these people are really struggle. and, you know, if you look at the economic impact on the positive side of migrants throughout history, countries
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that take them in tend to do better. one of the reasons we think the u.s. does better economically than europe is because we are a country of immigrants. >> dianne feinstein and representative flake, they want to ban the visa waiver. they want to make changes to it >> the travel and tourism industry has already been pushing back on this. folk who is come in on the visa waiver program make up about 60% of the tourists in the u.s. they represent $200 billion of economic impact and support a million u.s. jobs. that's a lot of money. travel is a $1 trillion industry and it's one of the most important industries in the u.s. >> but i can't spend my money if i'm dead. and now what we saw in paris, what we see going on in belgium, what we hear about these arrests in turkey. they are using -- what is the reality of, how are you better off getting into this country if you're a bad person who does bad things? through the refugee program? because we heard at least one used it in paris. we hear about it being used in other countries to sneak through
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honduras now. >> look, there are many ways for bad people to get into the country. it's just another statistic to show you how strict the vetting is. president obama has said he would like to bring in another 10,000 migrants this year. only 2,000 are in the process, because it is such a strict process. there's a lot of vetting. they have to be referred by the u.n. high commission. there's a lot of checking that goes on. so, this goal of 10,000, we're not anywhere near it, yet. >> does any other group that comes into this country through immigration receive a vetting that these refugees do? >> i don't think that they would. i think that this country, syria and iraq right now, you've got to think they're getting the most strict vetting that's out there. >> the answer according to the state department is no. because of the problems they had with the iraq refugees, and they did have problems. they had people coming in for the wrong reasons, they weren't properly vetted, they couldn't identify them. the head of the fbi says, i can't vet you if you don't exist in the database. that's true. there are other ways to vet you other than the database.
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they changed the program and that's why this takes so long. years. >> years, absolutely. >> from an economic perspective, you don't think you can make the case to. >> i think that when you see that a small fraction of 1% of these refugees have been any kind of a problem and you look at the huge economic impact, not just from them directly but we get more foreign direct investment from countries on the visa waiver program. >> they see them as a mooch. you'll drain our social services. >> true, but on a net level, immigrants at all ends of the economic spectrum tend to benefit america. they start businesses at a greater rate. it's better for demographics, have more kids. hard to make an anti-economic argument. >> we get that in the como family. we're only second generation here. but your numbers aside, you can't factor out fear. people are afraid of the unknown. it only takes one terrorist incident from one of these
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big development has implications for the u.s. as well. prime minister david cameron of the uk will call his country to join the coalition, launching air strikes on isis. he's also proposing billions in new defense spending to do even more. cameron meeting this morning with french president francois hollande in paris. hollande is going to fly to washington to meet with president obama. meanwhile, paris and brussels keeping major precautions in place at schools and public transit over concerns about more terror attacks. belgium made 21 arrests in anti-terror raids overnight. a global manhunt for the eighth
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paris attacker, now entering its tenth day. one source says the suspect's movements seem to make no sense. >> chris, let's talk about all of this with hillary man labaretro. she's a contributor for the national journal. great to see you this morning and get your expertise on all of this. we were just talking about what president hollande of france is doing. he's trying to build this global alliance to fight isis. let me put up for you the schedule on the screen of what he's doing, to that end. today he's meeting with the british prime minister, david cameron. tomorrow he's flying with washington, d.c. to meet with president obama. on wednesday, he's back in europe to meet with the german chancellor, angela merkel. on thursday, he's going to moscow to meet with russian president vladimir putin. aren't all of these people, hillary, already onboard? why is he doing this sort of big sell to all of these leaders to fight isis? >> they're onboard, but in a
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somewhat schizophrenic fashion. they're in a sense pursuing very different strategies in syria. the united states and russia were up until very recently were working at cross-purposes. russia had offered to work with us on a military basis in syria, and we said, no thanks. so i think what hollande is trying to do is bring all of these leaders together with his enormous capacity to have a joint single strategy to prosecute this war against isis. >> hillary, is it fair to say to that owl of these countries and all of these leaders have underestimated isis to some degree, and it was paris that has galvanize everyone to come together? >> well, i think the russians have really been focused on this for a while. you know, they started their very intensive military campaign in august and they've been militarily backing the syrian government against isis now for more than four years. i think other key players in the region, especially ran, has been very much aware of the threat
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isis has posed and has been one of the key players on the ground against isis in syria. so there are some players from the beginning who have been very strong and opposed against isis. we don't like them for other reasons, but i think what paris has done in some ways educated us, that we have to work with people who are there, who have the capacity. just as we worked with stalin in world war ii against the nazis, we can work with putin. >> hillary, help me understand something. there are so many more of us than there are then. there are billions of people in the world who don't subscribe to the isis ideology. there are, what, tens of thousands of isis fighters, maybe 100,000 isis fighters. why are they proving so difficult to fight? >> that is such a critically important question. and i think it gets to the much larger pool that isis can draw from. the pool, i would cap wildly, not just the broader muslim
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world of over $1 billion people, but even beyond that, those people that are extremely angry, frustrated and desperate about what they see as more than a decade of u.s.-red, western-read attacks of operations their countries, that have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of muslims in iraq, afghanistan, libya, and syria. so these images of those muslims that have been killed are broadcast nonstop on social media and that allows this greater pool of over a billion people to say, hey, we have to do something to build a pure islamic call vat that could protect the muslim world against this continuous western onslaught. we may not agree with that, but that's the perception. and the problem we have, this pool is real and it's not just in the middle east. it's in france, in europe, and all over the world. people angry and frustrated about western policies and alienated themselves from their own domestic contacts, particularly in places like france and belgium.
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>> president obama sounded a very confident note this weekend about the fight against isis. let me play that for you. >> we're not afraid to not elevate them, to somehow buy into their fantasy that they're doing something important. they're a bunch of killers. and we fight them. and we beat them. >> hillary, of course, president obama has famously underestimated them in the pass, calling them the jv. he said last friday they were contained, a few hours later, the paris tragedy had. so is he right to be as confident? >>ic he has proven -- he's proven to be mistaken repeatedly on this. our policy, i think, is clearly a failure. and unfortunately, it was a predictable failure. you can't just kill, you know, one terrorist or one thug here and there and think that you've
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got a strategy, especially a winnable strategy. you need a really serious military strategy that includes the forces on the ground, including those loyal to president assad's, 100,000 on the ground. you need to be able to hold your nose and work with putin and others who are not our best friend. we need a serious strategy and the president, unfortunately, has been reluctant to pursue that and instead has really dialed down the threat, leaving us all vulnerable. >> hillary mann leverett, always great to have you here. chicago gearing up for the potential protests ahead of the release of a video showing a white officer shooting a black suspect 16 times. people don't have to think about
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chicago is facing potentially violent protests as video of a white officer gunning down a black teen is set to be released. that officer has not been fired and that is not sitting well with some. cnn's ryan young is live in chicago with the latest developments. ryan? >> reporter: chris, he's not been fired and he's not been
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charged just yet. the charges are still pending against this officer. but many people in the community are concerned about what this video will show. the video is said to be very disturbing. police dash cam video showing 17-year-old laquan mcdonald being fatally shot 16 times by a white officer. it's ordered to be released to the public no later than wednesday. many who have already seen the footage from october of last year say it's tough to watch. >> even when he was on the ground, the officer was still shooting him. >> in october 2014, police were called to investigate a man with a knife trying to break into vehicles. authorities say mcdonald had a 4-inch knife and was acting erratically, slashing an officer's tires. police say mcdonald, who had pcp in his system, ignored officers to drop it, the officer put 16 rounds into his body. >> there was a narrative that the police officer had to shoot him in self-defense, that he was
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approaching a police officer and lunged at a police officer with a knife, it was not true. he was shot while he was walking away. >> reporter: the autopsy showed that some of the bullets entered his back. officer van dyk says he shot mcdonald in defense. >> we're confident that my client's actions were not only lawful, but also within department policy and even his training. >> reporter: now the city of chicago is bracing for the possibility that the video of mcdonald's death will ignite violent protests. activists are calling for calm. >> we have the right, the first amendment right to assemble peacefully and express our grievances against our government. and that's what we plan on doing. >> reporter: in april, the city reached a $5 million settlement with the mcdonald family. the victim's own mother says she does not want to see this video, but over the weekend, i can show you how seriously people are taking this. over 200 community members got together to discuss what will happen when the video comes out.
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and community members, again, will meet this afternoon. michaela? >> we want to talk more about this, obviously, would be too painful for that mother to watch. we want to bring in harry houck and cnn political commentator marc lamont hill. so the question of even whether to release this video, i have to ask, given the fact that it's thanksgiving this week, there's going to be a lot of people offwork and away from home. mark, do you think it's a smart move to release it this week? >> well, i think the people have a right to know and the people need to know -- >> fair enough, but timing? >> i mean, i'm not sure if there's ever a good timing for this. >> fair. >> last year we were in ferguson before thanksgiving. and people said, let's do it before thanksgiving. people said, let's do it in the night, not in the morning. every month, there was a reason to do it and not to do it. ultimately, you have to release it and brace yourself for the fallout of something that could be very volatile. >> brace yourself, indeed. we know people are obviously upset about the death of a
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17-year-old. i want to play some sound, harry, for a lawyer from the officer involved in this, officer jason van dyke. let me read it to you. i can't speak to why the other officers didn't speak, but i can speak to why my client shot. it speaks to what was in his heart, he felt he was in fear for his life. there were other officers on scene and the other officers did not shoot. is that damning for him? >> no, because this man did have a knife in his hand. this could come down to experience. apparently they followed this man for almost half a mile with a knife. >> teenager. >> a teenager can kill me just as dead as a 30-year-old. he had a knife in his hand and he was under the influence of pcp, which is a psychotic drug which makes you go crazy. i remember the days on the streets in harlem when pcp was
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big. it was horrible out there. now, the fact is, when you're following this guy, all right, how long does it take for you to finally come to the understanding that if somebody walks in on that scene, some civilian walks out a door and he turns around and cuts and kills that person -- >> well, you would set up a perimeter. >> right, but apparently you're following him half a mile later, it doesn't mean -- it still means -- if you set a perimeter, now he can come after a police officer and a civilian still might walk in on the scene. he was told several times to drop that weapon. he did not drop the weapon. the police officer made the decision to shoot. now, 16 times, i don't know about 16 times, right? i want to see the video, all right? we know he was shot in the back. >> marc, jump in. >> first, harry raised the possibility that a civilian could have entered the scene and their life could be threatened. under the circumstances where a civilian does enter the scene and there is the threat of a loss of life by virtue of that
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person having a knife, then you can shoot him. but you can even an imagery citizen. let me finish. this is super important. the other five officers were there and they didn't perceive the threat. the fact this this officer perceives the threat, even if he legitimaty did, that doesn't give you the right to shoot someone in the back. it doesn't give you the right to say someone was approaching you. >> there's nothing saying you can't shoot anybody in the back, all right? this isn't the cowboy days -- >> that's not what i said, harry. >> if the officer perceives a threat for not only himself but other officer officers, he can . the fact is this man had a weapon on him and the only maximum range, they should stay away from somebody is 20 to 22 feet and you're deadly and you could kill me if you're closer than that. >> here's my question for you. can officers be wrong?
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let me ask you this, for a reason. if there are five other officers who didn't feel that the threat was enough for them to discharge their weapon, this guy did. could they be wrong? sometimes we're wrong as humans. our instinct conditions wrong. >> listen, police officers can be wrong. i've sat here and told you when police officers are in the wrong. the fact this this man followed every procedure in the book. this guy had a weapon, he was told to drop it, he didn't drop it. and he was shot. we can't set and let this go on for another mile, mile and a half until somebody is killed. >> let me ask that question, why not? police do have time on your side. you're calm, you're collected. >> you never know. i don't know if all of a sudden i'm sitting there playing stupid, silly games, this guy comes here and kills an officer, when i could have shot him five minutes ago. it's not only the threat for officers but the threat for other civilians. they followed him for half a
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mile. >> i think that's the concern, the whole situation could have perhaps been de-escalated. we know that when somebody is on pcp, as you said, going to respond violently. >> you ain't de-escalating a pcp, it isn't going to happen. >> so why not contain? >> that's what they were trying to do. so, surround me. but when i'm within 10, 15 feet of you, i can cut you. police have been killed from the same instance president in the past. so if you have a weapon, i tell you to drop it, and you don't drop it, you're getting shot. >> the question comes down to the fact that five other officers didn't shoot. >> i'm not exactly sure of harry's sense of distance. a 4-inch knife, 15 feet away, i'm not sure how you can cut someone. >> law of physics. >> i can't have to be an expert to know that a knife this long
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cannot cut someone from 15 feet away. >> i can run at you and i can stab you. >> let me finish, harry. >> my point is, he was running the other way. i want to correct something you said earlier. i didn't say the police cannot shoot someone in the back. that's my point. you have an extraordinary amount of insight into what the police officer was thinking and that the police officer didn't break any rules, although you haven't seen the video. my claim is that if an officer says one thing and later on a video shows a guy was running the other way, that kcalls into question -- >> hopefully the video will answer a lot of questions. i'm going to have to leave it there. the thing i do want to leave you both with is that chicago has, according to, 419 murders. this is a city already besieged with violence. something has to be done. i want to have you both back so we can talk about that. this is the backdrop of all of this that's happening in chicago, is a cold, hard fact. all right, harry, marc, you got
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confuse the kacardinals. catanzaro with a 32 yarder. two seconds remaining. look at him trying to dab like cam newton. cardinals move to 8-2. speaking of newton, no drama for newton and the panthers. they keep smoking. newton threw a career-high-five touchdowns. the panthers improved to 10-0. 44-16. water cooler knowledge, 15 teams started at 10-0 in the last half century. nine made it to the super bowl and six won it all. speaking of perfect in the nba, golden state looking good, looking great. 15-0, tying the record for best start to an nba season ever. team work makes the dream work for the warriors. dubs drop the nuggets, 118-105. tomorrow against the lakers, they can break that record. chris, i'm sorry for your jets. they got j.j. watted by the
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texans. 24-17. tonight, my bills take on the patriots in monday night football. >> we'll have things to talk to you about. >> i would say something, but he could squash me. >> he could. don't forget that. >> he's better looking. happy thanksgiving, bud. >> all true. thanksgiving is days away. if you want to avoid controversial conversations, just turn up adele. watch how well it worked on "snl." >> genius. >> happy thanksgiving, everyone. >> i am thankful that our governor isn't going to let the refugees in here. >> oh, my god. >> wow. >> i mean -- >> i heard the refugees are all isis in disguise. >> oh, yeah, that's true. i actually saw an isis today when i was picking up the yams. >> that was an asian woman. >> wow. >> you know what, i have a question for you, why is it that your friends keep antagonizing
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mouths when they sing. >> with long fingernails. >> colored. >> that's a wrap for this hour. we have a whole lot of news to get to. let's jump on it. together, we will destroy this evil threat. >> international man hunt for that eighth paris attacker intensifies. >> there is still this threat here for the capital city of belgium. >> what is going to be the standard to get that city up and running again if we don't catch the single person that they're looking for? >> off to paris, the sinai, in the cross hairs is here. we have heard distant thuds of what could have been two air strikes. from where we're standing, here is the kurdish front line. >> a third islamist group is claiming responsibility for the attack on the hotel in the c capital of mali. >> i wrote an e-mail and said, i believe there are shooters here. if i don't make it, i love you. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allison
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camerota and michaela pereira. >> it is monday, november 23rd, 8:00 in the east. belgium is on lockdown, as the international man hunt for the eighth paris attacker intensifies. at least 21 people arrested in anti-terror raids. brussels under its higher terror alert level. there are warnings of an imminent attack. >>devising a plan to wipe isis off the map. the french president travels to washington tomorrow to meet with president obama. we have live coverage with fred pleitg pleitgen, live in brussels with what's happening in that city. fred? >> hi, . there were anti-terror raids that went on here but also in other places in belgium, as well. the federal prosecutor in belgium announced that on top of the 16 people that they had
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originally said had been arrested, five additional people were taken into custody. so the total number is now at 21. of course, so far, they're saying that the man that everyone is looking for, salah abdeslam who is, of course, apparently one of those who also attacked the various locations in paris last week, is apparently not among those who were netted in those raids. i want to give you a feeling of the city. it is on lockdown. i'm standing in the city center. what you see over there, that is the main christmas market in brussels. as you can see, it isn't happening. that's the scene we're seeing here in the belgium capital. it's full of soldiers, full of police officers. there are very, very few people who are actually going out on the street. as you know, the city is in lockdown. there's barely any public transport. no subways. few busses. the schools are closed. people are saying they are absolutely concerned about the situation and they hope that it won't last very much longer. the authorities here are saying
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they are continuously evaluating whether or not to keep it this way as it is right now. as we see more military vehicles rolling into the center of the european union, if you will. the center of the administrative capital of the european union. michaela? >> fred, thank you for giving us a look at what's happening in belgium. in the meantime, france launching new air strikes over syria and iraq from their carrier deployed to the mediterranean. now, after meeting with french president francois hollande, british prime minister cameron is ready to make the argument to parliament to make the air strikes in iraq and syria. >> good morning, michaela. french president francois hollande and the british prime minister david cameron went together to the scene of some of the worst violence in the paris attacks. the bataclan theater.
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they laid down flowers to pay respects to the dead. afterwards, the president hollande outlined key steps that he thinks needs to be taken to present further attacks from happening and to really try to crack down on isis. number one, he said, europe needs to strengthen its borders. number two, he said, there needs to be a major crackdown on the trafficking of weapons, particularly heavy weapons within europe and, number three, of course, there needs to be an intensification of the fight against isis on isis territory in syria and iraq. as you said, the british prime minister david cameron expected to take that to parliament, to try to get them to agree to pass that. hollande is going to meet with various other world leaders this week. he's meeting with the russian president vladimir putin and president obama tomorrow. he's meeting with the german chancellor angela merkel. the french aircraft carrier is positioned in the gulf and
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strikes from begun from it in syria. here in france, authorities have released a photograph of this man. take a look. he is believed to be one of the attackers who blew himself up outside the french stadium. he was believed to have traveled along the refugee route, alongside one of the other attackers who was traveling on the believed to be fake syrian passports. authorities really appealing to the public, putting out this photograph on the french police's twitter account to try to gather some more information about who this man may be. here in france, still very much a state of high alert. children going to school today were greeted by security officers. they had their bags checked. parents have been told, don't loiter or gather outside the school when you're going to drop your kids off. when you're going to pick them up. we know all schools will have two mandatory drills they have to carry out before school breaks up for the holidays. also told, french authorities
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announcing they are extending a ban on any public gathering or demonstration until the end of the month now. >> thanks so much for that reporting. president obama is back in washington after his nine-day asia trip. he returns to the country that is on edge here after, of course, the paris attacks. he's urging americans not to overreact, and he's promising to destroy the terror group. cnn's senior washington correspondent joe johns is live with more. good morning. >> good morning. the president got here around midnight. it was a long trip. nine days to the philippines, to turkey and malaysia. while he was on the road, he was subjected to some pretty harsh criticism on capitol hill from republicans, even some democrats, about the tone he has taken in addressing the attacks. in his last address in kuala lumpur, trying to bring all the threads of this terrorism issue
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together, talking a bit about the concern of syrian refugees entering the country as migrants. also, making his point that fear is the biggest problem. listen. >> they're a bunch of killers with good social media. the most powerful tool we have to fight isil is to say that we're not afraid. >> the president is expected to continue the terror talk tomorrow when french president hollande comes here to the white house. hollande will also go off to russia to meet with vladimir putin and talk more about the very same issues. one of the big questions, of course, is whether the united states and russia can ever get on the same page when it comes to the end game for syrian president assad. chris? >> joe johns, thank you very much. let's get more analysis. let's bring in cnn analyst and
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counterterrorism analyst paul mudd. we have fear. the fear is real. there's two levels that warrant discussion now. one is, what is going on to hurt us, and what can we do to stop it? then, how is that or is not personified by the syrian refugee coming to the united states? let's start with the tactics. everybody was consumed with the so-called planner. where is he? how is he? they got him. it's great. it's over. you say not only is it not over, but that guy being in paris is a reflection of an organization scheme before this point we never imagined. >> right. abdelhamid abaaoud was reporting to people in the isis hierarchy and one was a french isis operative, believed to be the senior ringleader behind this plot, behind a plot stream this year against france. he's in raqqah, syria. he's been working all year with abdelhamid abaaoud to send back
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recruits to launch attacks, to train them quickly, so they don't akrorouse suspicion. >> how do they do that? >> they take a two to three week holiday in turkey. get quick training and come back. then they're not going to be suspected as much as people going away for months. the other thing is people not even traveling into syria. actually meeting with these french isis operatives in turkey itself, in safe houses in istanbul or southern turkey, and being turned around from there. we saw that with the plot against the churches in paris, organized by the same network. >> they're an app away from being able to talk to each other without being detected, right? >> the evidence coming from these past cases linked to the network are suggesting they're communicating through encrypted messaging apps. there is an extraordinary amount of command and control coming from the middle east, coming
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from turkey and syria, terror by remote control, where they're instructing these recruits what to attack, when to attack, but also where to go and find the weapons. in the church plot back in april, the isis recruit who met with the operatives in turkey ask traveled back was communicating. they told him, you need to go and get the weapons. you need to go get bullet proof vests in a specific car in a specific parking garage. the key will be on the front right tire. pick it up, wear gloves. detailed instructions, step by step, from syria, from turkey, for these terrorist plots. >> phillip, you are nodding in assent, as if this is stuff you have heard and believe, as well. why shouldn't i be paralyzed with fear? there's no way you can stop these types of plots with any type of frequency. why shouldn't i be afraid? >> if you look at 15 years of operations against these guys,
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they're not winning in the past and they're not winning today. they lost in the southern philippines. they lost ground in indonesia. they lost ground over the past year and a half in iraq. in the summer of 2014, we're talking about whether isis will threaten baghdad. the kurds made advances against them. they've galvanized the europeans to a state of war, when the europeans criticize td americans for a decade about conducting a war on terror. the russians are involve yur ur. >> they shut down belgium, a police state for all intents and purposes. if the aim of terrorism is to scare, on thin facts, you have the american people, the biggest hearted people in the world, wanting to shut down an entire group of desperate humanity. how do you not see that as them winning? >> this is an emotional response, not a security
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response f. you look at the security threat from refugees and syrians as a security professional, it's minimal. if you want to talk about security threats, let's talk about cartel members infiltrating pause they're joining with the mexicanimmigra. if you want to talk about it, we have the guys from salvador. >> they want to sell drugs, not chop my head off. >> it's not true. if you look at murders along the southwest border, a lot are from cartels. we're focused because of an emotional response from short-sighted politicians on one issue. we should step back and realize the threat we have here is not just syrians. some of the plotters are belgians and french. shut down the borders to belgians and french. it's a ridiculous conversation. >> i'm still afraid. i know you guys know more, and understand you understand the situation, but we just had a guy that we're told in the paris attacks that came there vis-a-vis, a fake syrian refugee route. i don't want it to happen here. keep them out.
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>> they could exploit the refugees and they did that in the paris attacks. a couple of the people exploited the refugee system in greece to get into europe. if you look at it widely, there's only been a handful of cases where there's been a nexus between refugees and terrorism. >> any refugees, not just syrian. >> there are hundreds of thousands coming in. it's a tiny amount, where you have this link to terrorism. phil is right about this. and he's exactly right that there is progress being made against isis in syria and iraq. the problem, with this current strategy, even if you escalate it, they'll be there for five or ten years. in that five or ten year period, you're going to see a string of terror attacks like paris. there needs, i think, to be a sense of greater urgency from all international leaders on this issue. it's intolerable there is essentially a terrorist state on the southern shore of the
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mediterranean. also in greece and libya. there needs to be concerted action. there needs to be a change in strategy, more than escalating air strikes. >> understood. let's end this discussion with this, phillip. there is a big truth or urban myth tho mythology right now, donald trump heading it up, when the towers came down in 9/11, there are arabs all over the country celebrating they went down. true or false. you were in the game at the time. >> i saw some elements of that but i saw a lot of elements of people saying, what happened here? there is a tragedy of 3,000 deaths and now our community, that is the muslim community, will be ostracized. i think you saw moments where people celebrated, but i don't think it was symbolic or representative of an entire community. i didn't see it. >> phillip, paul, thank you very much. appreciate the perspective, as always, gentlemen. a group of syrian refugees turning themselves into authorities in the south texas town
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france launching new air strikes in syria. france and russia ramped up air strikes in targets in syria. cnn is getting a look at the situation, miles away from isis stronghold in raqqah. nick paton walsh made the journey and he joins us with his exclusive report. nick? >> it is remarkable to see how close the u.s.-supported kurdish fighters have got toward the capital of what isis calls their caliphate raqqah. where i'm in northern iraq, the air space has been closed. the central government saying potentially because of what they anticipate might be issues involving cruise missiles, most likely russians, fired from the caspian sea. it gives you an idea of the
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escalation potentially in the air or here. that is something palpable when you're on the outskirts of raqqah. >> reporter: after paris, the sinai in the cross hairs is here, raqqah. lost in the haze, yet they can hear it. loud thuds, heaviest at dusk. three days ago, he says, we saw 40 air strikes suddenly hit nearby. then the french said they started bombing. we'll do our best to avenge paris. he, like the other young kurdish fighters here, have lost friends, but say fighting isis is a duty for humanity rather than vengeance, as they man a series of frentrenches and outp 20 miles from the city. >> we heard the distance thuds of what could have been two air strikes. from where we're standing, here is the kurdish front line. all in this direction, flat, open land until you reach the
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o outskirts of raqqah, the capital of isis' self-declared caliph e caliphate. >> reporter: it's the silence of stalemate in the desert. weapons here are scant. this man carries the ak-47 of his friend who died eight months ago. out here, in the flat, open ground, with isis in the next village, they still scorn isis' leaders with welcome help. if french, russian or american fighters, this commander says, come here to fight, we will cooperate with them, as we are all fighting to clean the area of isis for humanity. isis left their mark on the nearby village, as has the fight for it. even the mosque littered with mines. the silence here is breathtaking. this is directly the road down to raqqah, and you can just hear the complete absence of human
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life. there is little in victory left. these guys don't look like white knights but that's what the pentagon hopes they are. the syrian democratic forces, getting american aid to explain they've secured the major defection of sunni tribes inside raqqah to fight isis. we weren't expecting this large number to join, but there are now 4,000 tribesmen, he said. when we want to move, all are ready. we've already managed to sneak weapons to them. we're moving forwards. western leaders call this a global fight, but here, alone, do you feel the dust, death and determination. >> nick, incredible, what access you got and what you were able to see and show us. give us an idea, i understand there were clashes near where you were. tell us about that. >> in the last 24 hours, michaela, we understand from activists it must have been isis
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trying to move towards those positions. they seem to have attacked the nearby village. they, in fact, hit four isis targets in the area around it. that gives an idea of the advantage the kurds have there. you saw the vast amount of open space between them and isis. they have air power assisting them in the event isis moves. the area still very much an active front line, michaela. >> speak about the air strikes. we know the french launched new air strikes this morning, which would be later in the day for you. how effective are those air strikes moving e ing proving on groundsome. >> hard to tell. there are videos released by isis, claiming they've been hitting redundant buildings or civilian targets. there's been a vast amount of fire power on raqqah. activists inside refer to the targets being key
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infrastructure. the youth club, key, large buildings on round abouts. hard to understand how so many targets suddenly become available in a short period of time for the french to hit, often with u.s. assistance. the u.s. had been monitoring the city for months looking for targets. some say perhaps they're hitting old targets again, or as u.s. officials suggested, opportunities crop up when you don't expect them. real fears for the civilians inside the city. isis don't want to let them leave much of the time. it's hard to tell what's happened to them in the event the ammunition is being brought there on the scale we're seeing. >> i can imagine. key to our understanding of what's going on there is your reporting. thanks so much, nick. the syrian refugee crisis becoming a political issue on the campaign trail and on capitol hill. now, a showdown brewing, ordering new restrictions. people don't have to think about where their electricity comes from.
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the issue of whether to allow syrian refugees into the u.s. is becoming divisive in the
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aftermath of the paris attacks. the senate vowing to block passage of the american safe act, which was passed by the house and calls for stronger vetting of the refugees. joining us now is republican congressman who supports the measure. tell me exactly where you are on the refugee issue. i know that originally, you wanted a moratorium on all syrian refugees. now, you've backed off of that somewhat and just want more strick vetting. do you believe in letting siryrn refugees into the country over the next year? >> i think that we should hit the pause button. we should have a delay in admitting syrian refugees until the fbi director certifies the screening process works and that the legislation calls for. the fbi director and the secretary of homeland security and the director of national intelligence certify that each
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refugee coming into the united states is not a national security risk. i think that is a very common sense, practical approach to addressing this problem. i'm glad that the house had a very strong, very bipartisan vote. by the way, the senate itself hasn't deliberated on this yet, so i hope that the senators will actually vote to allow the legislation to go to the floor of the senate for a vote, rather than simply a senator block it from being considered. >> the administration believes this is overkill. president obama says that syrian refugees are the most vetted group of people let in. it takes 18 to 24 months of paperwork and vetting for them to get into the country. really, what more do you want to have happen? >> i simply want the fbi director to certify that the process works. he testified before the house judiciary committee in response to my question, that there are
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major difficulties with vetting people from syria because of the disarray in the country and because of the fact that there is no feasible means of communicating with the government on the basis of individual refugees. nor is there the ability to go in and interview neighbors and business associates and so on about whether people are indeed national security risks. that's unlike most other countries in the world, where the united states has an embassy and has people on the ground, offices, that can perform that work. >> let me show you a study done by the migration policy institute that puts the numbers in perspective. they say that there have been 784,000 refugees resettled in the u.s. since 9/11. three, only three of those, have been arrested for planning terrorist activities. those, they describe, that were arrested, the plan was barely credible. those are extremely low odds, in terms of letting syrian refugees in. or any refugees in.
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why isn't that giving you comfort? >> well, because the fbi director said there are major problems. of all those refugees, only a tiny percentage so far, i would say, i don't have the numbers in front of me, but last year, 1600 or 1700 were admitted from sy a syria. this year, 200. if the fbi director certifies as the house passed bill that this problem has been resolved, and they certify that each of the refugees is not a national security risk, that is not an unreasonable burden to bear, given that the united states, as you point out, the number of refugees, we are by far the most generous nation on earth in admitting refugees to this country. 2/3 on an average year of the u.n. recommended refugees from around the world are admitted to the united states. 1/3 to all the other countries in the world. we have nothing to apologize for in the generosity of our refugee
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system, but we also have a legitimate concern when -- and it's not just the fbi director, by the way. other national security leaders have talked about the difficulty of vetting syrian refugees. i think this is a practical measure that the house has passed and the senate should do the same thing. >> some of the things the national security directors and director comey, who you're citing, have said is yes, there's nothing completely without risk, of course, but they do believe they have lowered the risk. in fact, they've lowered it dramatically since 9/11, and they're comfortable with the direction the vetting process is going in. on a larger point, what president obama said is that the message it sends, to shut out syrian refugees from the u.s., who is seen as being a generous country and having open arms, the message it sends to the world is more dangerous than letting the refugees in. >> the president ought to lead. he ought to point out to the rest of the world that the united states is, by far, the
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most generous nation on earth with regard to admitting refugees into this country. and if his fbi director will certify that the program works, as called for by the legislation, passed by the house, he shouldn't have concern by that. but if he says it's too onerous because the director won't certify it, then quite frankly, i think the president needs to look in the mirror in terms of how the united states looks to the rest of the world. >> congressman, if not here, to the mainland of the u.s., for the refugees, where? where do you recommend the syrian refugees who have to get out of their country because it is so war-torn, where should they go? >> i've visited refugee resettlement areas in jordan. the united states, again, by the way, is by far the most generous nation on earth, in terms of supporting, taking care of syrian refugees, in jordan, turkey, and we would be willing to provide resources wherever
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thaw may be needed to keep them safe while the situation remains not just unresolved but in total disa disarray in their own country. the overwhelming majority of them want to return to their home country. we should focus on what it takes to make that happen. when it does, they'll be able to return home. we have 45 million, according to a recent study, displaced persons around the world who cannot live in their homes because of various reasons. addressing those reasons is far more important to me than it is trying to figure out how to move 45 million people around the world. >> yeah. >> to me, national security needs to be a consideration, but taking care of refugees where they are needs to be an important consideration, as well. >> congressman, good luck. thanks so much for being on "new day." >> thank you. >> what's your take on this topic? tweet us #new day cnn. also post your comment on day. chris? another attack we've been
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not one, not two, but now three islamic groups are claiming responsibility for friday's deadly attack on a hotel in the capital of mali. at least 22 people were killed, along with two of the attackers. mali is widening its investigation. hunting more suspects, survivors are telling their stories. david mckenzie brings us the story. david? >> that's right, chris. good morning. here at the radisson blu hotel, there were scenes of chaos, mayhem and murder on friday, as two, maybe three gunmen, shot at random. i spoke to an office of the cdc, here to help the country. she describes the horrible ordeal. >> i e-mailed my husband and
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said something like, there is something going on and i want you to know that i love you. then when -- a few hours later when there were fire down the hallway, i wrote another e-mail and said, i believe there are shooters here. if i don't make it, i want you to know that i love you. and my family and my cdc, but i am coming home. i do this because i love doing this work. where we are in the world, we need to continue on. >> you're committed to the work no matter what? >> no matter what. this wasn't about mali. it's about what i calldiots. >> was there any point, any moment, you thought, this is it? this is the end of the road? >> when the shooting came down the hallway, i was more nervous. i wasn't sure. it wasn't going to end. i was going home. i knew i was going home. that's the end of it. >> when the signal came, what went through your head?
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>> oh, gosh, i'm so glad to see you guys. i don't know much french, but i could say merci bocu. every guy i mentioned put their lives on the line for me that day, and i so appreciate that. there is a group of people who can't make it out. my heart goes out to their families. but i believe they were here doing what they love and what they're committed to. if that day were to come for me, someone would be saying that about me, as well. >> kathie says, extraordinarily, she wants to come back to mali, finish her work. she's now home in atlanta. she says she really credits the malian special forces, helped by american security teams, for getting her out. michaela? >> what an incredible account. thank you for sharing that with us.
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now for the five things you need to know for your new day. number one, france launching air strikes from their newly deployed aircraft carrier targ it eing isis in syria and iraq. david cameron prepares to call for uk air strikes against isis in syria. brussels under the highest terror alert. authorities rounding up 16 people in a series of anti-terror raids, as the international man hunt for the eighth paris attacker intensifies. president obama back in washington. he's urging americans not to overreact and is promising to destroy isis. he'll meet with french president hollande tomorrow. they'll speak about strategy in the fight. john kerry on the first leg of a three-day trip to the middle east. he is in the united arab emirates to talk about the civil war in syrian. then israel and the palestinianter ropalestinian
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we have news of new air strikes being launched by france today, targeting isis in syria and iraq. the strikes are coming from their just deployed aircraft carrier in the region. the only major platform for this in the region is france's ship. in belgium, authorities arresting another 21 people in anti-terror raids all around
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brussels. it seems the more they do, the more they learn. yet, the more apprehension there is of what comes next. let's get perspective. from paris, we have nic robertson and mr. stephen. thank you for understanding of this situation. nick, let's start abroad, this round of strikes off the charles degal that shows a new capability. what's the tactical significance? >> well, the french president says once it was operational, it would have effectively multiply by three times france's capacity to have air strikes inside syria and iraq, as well. so this effectively gives france the ability to strike more quickly on target, on isis targets. we also heard the british prime minister was in paris today and told the french president the french could also count on using the british air base in cypress.
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now, the french have a firmer footing, keeping the pressure on isis. the difficulty or challenge is going to be to find the effective isis targets to hit. that'll have an impact on the organization. >> that's going abroad. nic, thank you. stephen, let's turn to the homeland in france. the state of emergency now aught rie -- authorized and in effect. your concerns are about personal liberties. now, the front seat fear is the they learn about what was out there just under their nose. how is it going in terms of getting a handle on the threat? >> it's one of the main issues here in france. actually gathering the information has already been improved since the "charlie hebdo" attacks. the main issue is analyzing all the information. over 800 house searches took place last week, since the state of emergency came into effect.
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over 100 people have been detained -- house arrests currently. it's not clear whether this information, after last week, all the arrests have led to new information. we see that the theater is now moving towards brussels. once again, one of the main issues of the european intelligence services is exchange of information. there's a lot of criticism on belgium earlier this week they let things go out of hand in brussels. i think the belgium authorities now want to show their european partners they're making -- doing a real job getting rid of the terrorists. this may explain the reason brussels is still in a lockdown. >> and brussels pushing back on the french that they weren't giving enough information. we're hoping one of the things born of this tragedy is better cooperation. a different issue stefanme,
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president hollande said, we'll still take in refugees. life goes on. what's the perspective on the dialogue in the united states right now from there? >> france is taking little refugees compared to other european countries. like germany, the netherlands, sweden. interestingly enough, the refugees don't want to come to france because they know there is an atmosphere of phobia. they will basically not be well received here in france. it's not a big issue. of course, any refugee now is one refugee too many in the heads of french people. weeks from now, there will be regional elections. these are the last elections before the presidential ones in 2017. very important elections. since the attacks on friday the 13th, the leader of the right
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wing party is doing much better than she was doing before the attacks. so the french do approve the measures francois hollande has been taking since the attacks but they lean to the extreme right parties. >> the greater war will be the coalition of european and middle eastern states coming together to fight in syria. how close do you think we are to that in light of the uk developments? >> you have the british prime minister coming here today to meet with the french president. david cameron will be speaking to parliament later this week. he wants british air strike cra strike inside syria and i. he will meet with president obama, angela merkel and vladimir putin. these are significant when you're talking about bringing the european countries together.
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one of the most significant meetings to that end, what to do in syria, is happening, or could be happening today in tehran. president putin from russia is in tehran at the moment, having meetings there. the difficulty between the united states, its allies and russia and iraq is what to do about the future of president ash ass assad. that's a sticking point before you tackle isis around here. the key for russia that doesn't particularly keep attached to the future, iran does. can putin persuade tehran to give up assad, and we can move forward to the next stage in syria? you have these important meetings happening right now. hollande, whose country has been hit, putin's country has been hit, both by isis. there's a lot of moral authority. can they use that to drive the compromises that are necessary to get real action in syria? >> nic robertson, thank you for raising that issue. stefan, appreciate the
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members of the american band are reliving the horrifying moments when terrorists stormed the bataclan concert hall in paris. they are speaking out to vice, and they talk about the attack and the lengths the audience went to to survive. >> several people hid in our dressing room. the killers were able to get in and killed every one of them, except for a kid that was hiding under my leather jacket. >> killers got in your dressing room? >> yeah. >> wow. >> people were playing dead and were so scared. great reason why so many were killed was because so many people wouldn't leave their friends. so many people put themselves in front of people. >> the poor, young man. >> i know. we've been waiting to hear from the band because they witnessed everything. they were on the stage when the attackers came in. and the fact they all survived is remarkable. >> remarkable. >> look, that could have been a
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lot worse. we always say this, and it sounds trite, but it's true, is that people made it out by sticking together. they were, in that moment, a part of what resistance is to terrorists in the first place. it's a horrible situation to be in, but they hung together. >> they did. that's it for our show. time now for newsroom with carol costello. >> have a great day. newsroom starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. a major european city on alert and under a partial lockdown. brussels shuts down its subways, schools and shopping malls amid warnings an isis attack in the belgium capital is imminent. authorities launch more raids overnight in belgium. 21 people arrested, but not salah abdeslam, a key suspect in the paris attacks. paying respects at the concert hall, the site of the deadliest paris massacre. britain's prime minr


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