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you can't let what other people decide to do rule your life. >> reporter: amen. to life and love in paris. >> thank you so much for being with me in paris. we'll be back same time tomorrow. in the meantime, john berman and "the lead" start right now. thanks, brooke. a plane shot down, the rhetoric ramps up. i'm john berman, and this is "the lead." the world lead. new white, hot tension after turkey and nato member shoots down a russian jet. did russia ignore repeated warnings? and what will happen next with moscow vowing retaliation? uncovering a larger terror network behind the paris attacks than previously thought. startling, new evidence, the ring leader returned to the scene of the crime while still playing out. and politics lead. donald trump refuses to back
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down after claiming he saw crowds cheer when the towers fell. will his old best friend about his new, worst enemy? welcome to "the lead." i'm john berman, in for jake today. our world lead. the battle against isis. the most dangerous and complicated conflict on earth. just got more dangerous and more complicated. turkey, shot down a russian warplane near its border with syria, saying the russian jet ignored ten warnings in five minutes. a search and rescue mission launched for the fate of two ejected pilots, still unclear. russia claiming one is dead, and there are reports the other has been captured. russia's saying one of its marines was killed in the rescue operation. moscow is furious, president putin called this, quote, a stab in the back that will have serious consequences. right to cnn's barbara starr at
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the pentagon what happen are u.s. officials telling you? >> they are monitoring russian reports at least one of the russian pilots is dead. but, clearly, washington wanting this situation not to escalate out of control, trying to keep it calm, and one reason may be that right now, at this hour, the pentagon cannot say for sure that the russian plane was shot down inside turkish airspace. >> reporter: turkey says it warned the russian jet ten times it was violating turkish airspace before ordering its f-16s to shoot down the russian aircraft. president obama putting his full support behind the nato ally. >> turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its airspace. >> reporter: the u.s. calculates the russians may have been inside turkey for less than 30 seconds. less clear is exactly where the border may be. >> it happened, you know, at the
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border, that much i can tell you. but beyond that, we're still trying to collect and sift through all of the data. >> reporter: the russian plane took off from the syrian airfield, heading north. the u.s. monitoring the entire time, using radars and radios. >> we were able to hear everything going on, these are on open channels. >> reporter: as the plane went down, video posted on social media shows turkish-supported rebels shooting at the two russian pilots. heavy fire from the ground, rebels calling for the pilot's capture. russian helicopter searching for the second pilot also apparently under attack, and crashing. a russian marine killed on the failed rescue mission. cnn could not independently confirm the video. russian president vladimir putin called the shootdown a stab in
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the back. >> translator: in any case, neither our pilots nor our jet posed any threat to the turkish republic. >> reporter: putin says his planes were targeting isis. but the u.s. says the russians only started flying in this area in the last few days, and were targeting rebels that turkey supports. turkey defending its actions. >> translator: everyone should know turkey has right to response if its airspace is violated despite repeated warnings. >> reporter: the question now, is putin really angry or does he have a more immediate goal? >> he believes that, if he maintains his cool, that countries like france, great britain, and he hopes also the united states, will allow him at the big table and that he will then get a de facto spear of influence over syria. >> reporter: u.s. officials hope this incident will finally
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convince putin to stop fighting rebels who are fighting al assad and instead fight isis. that's the change in strategy that washington wants to see. but don't hole your breath yet. >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks so much. remarkable video of that incident. cnn's senior international correspondent nick walsh is back from the battle lines. now in istanbul, turkey, turkey the front line in the battle against syria, with plane shot down. what's the reaction there? >> reporter: well, turkey, frankly, staunchly defiant about what it did. their justification, this is not the first time russia has, in their opinion, openly violated airspace. late the september a number of similar instances, russian and turkish officials met and tried to hammer out any confession,
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and it clearly seems to be defined move by the turkish military saying they made ten warnings in five minutes, showing a map, where they violated airspace. you look at the map, they came in twice, hard to properly defind, and finding nato standing officially behind them, too, many nato members being de-escalating in rhetoric. turkey has a broader game. the rebels firing at both the plane and the rescue helicopters. they are closely allied to the turkish government. a sense of protection the state wants to yield towards. inside syria and there's a lot of heavy bombing in the area where turkey men are in the past a week or so, prompting tushie to consider taking a plant about that to the u.n. security council. turkey has a broader agenda than one airspace violation. they wanted to send a message to moscow. that message may have been heard, potentially. we are seeing diplomatic and
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economic responses from the kremlin at those stage. vladimir putin his venture into syria, many see, as a response to how things in ukraine haven't gone well for him. moving into syria, they had a big initial launch, a lot of state media pumping up their success but downing of the airliner over the sinai. now they've lost their first two airmen, one marine, one pilot, possibly more in this instant. it's not going particularly well. but perhaps, i think, many hope this may focus putin against isis. a nato member blasting a rush be jet out of the sky awakens all of putin's animosity towards nato bloc. we could see more complications in a very complicated piece of airspace. >> alarming headline when a nato member shoots down a russian plane, only over turkish airspace for 30 seconds. is that enough time, warning to give to the russian jet?
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>> reporter: hard to tell. in defense of the turkish here, russians have put videos of their planes buzzing u.s. drones over syrian airspace. they've been clear to tell the world they're there have they want to be there and they want to be wherever they want to be, to some degree. we'll never know with great transparency precisely how long they were in turkish airspace. russians say they never were in the first place and the strike occurred inside syrian airspace. it's moving around, it's moving in and out, the border itself can, some say, be hard to define in many stages but doesn't take away escalating rhetoric. we have to forget -- remind ourselves we're not in the '80s but the idea of nate to and russian aircraft duking it out over a cwar zone is terrifying, to say the least. >> more than just one incident.
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thank you so much, nick. i spoke with retired general wesley clark, former supreme allied leader of nato. i asked him about the significance of this incident. >> when a nato nation shoots down a russian aircraft, it's still an act by turkey, not nato. aircraft are not under nato control, under turkish operational control. they're flying un-turkish air missions and nato is not running an air defense umbrella, it's integrated, to best of my knowledge. >> bigger picture, this has to do with complexity of the conflict in syria. president obama said, this illustrates ongoing problem with the russian operations. the president suggested, if russia was targeting isis, in areas that isis controlled, this might not have happened. >> that's exactly right. but this is the larger context. what you have here is no political agreement.
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so we have these people -- these countries trying to work together and obfuscate the fundamental under lying disagreement. let's be very clear. isis is not just a terrorist organization. its a sunni terrorist organization. that means it blocks and targets shia, and that means it's serving the interests of turkey and saudi arabia even as it poses a threat to them, because neither turkey nor saudi arabia want an iran/iraq/syria/lebanon bridge that isolates turkey and cuts saudi arabia off. >> general. are you suggesting -- >> geostrategic context. >> are you suggesting vladimir putin had a point when he suggested turkey, in a way, was aiding isis? >> well, all along there have always been -- there's always been the idea that turkey was
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supporting isis in some way. we know they funneled people going through turkey to isis. someone's buying that oil that isis is selling. it's going through somewhere. it looks to me like it's probably going through turkey. but the turks haven't acknowledged that. when isis got started, it was put together because of a group of sunni zealots were fighting against bashar al assad who is aligned with iran. this is part of the broader struggle in the middle east. now, putin would like to dirty tu turkey saying it's supporting terrorists but the truth is he's supporting terrorists. the tactics used by the assad regime have been terror tactics, dropping barrel bombs on innocent civilians. so, there's no -- there's no
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let's say good guy in this. this is a power struggle for the future of the middle east. using terror tactics and terrorists. >> just one more complication in an area already a powder keg. general wesley clark, thank you so much. >> thank you. new clues into the where about thes to the suspected ring leader of paris terror attacks on vet night of the killings. martin savidge is in paris. >> reporter: john, this is some really troubling stuff. french authorities believe by tracking the cell phone of the leader, he went back to the scenes of the carnage immediately afterwards, maybe for the purpose of taking pictures. i'll have more after this. how much protein does your dog food have?
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welcome back to "the lead." new target, new name in the rapidly moving investigation into the paris attacks that left 130 people dead. that name is mohamed abrini, seen days before the attacks with other man on the run, salah
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abdeslam, the man police believe drove suicide bombers to the stadium, one of the sites targeted that night. today a tip led police to an address in western germany, was abdeslam of there? did he ditch a suicide vest along the way? president hollande met with president obama at the white house today. he vowed to destroy the isis terrorists who targeted his country. >> translator: france came under attack for what it represents, for what it stands for, for its culture, a way of living, as well as our valuesing our principles. but by targeting france the terrorists, the murders were targeting the world. >> cnn's martin savidge live in paris. a flurry of developments in the
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last few minutes. >> reporter: exactly right. a story, though we are 11 days after the tragedy that took place in paris, the number of suspects continues to grow. the geographic area where they're searching continues to grow. now, we get word of a follow-on terror plot that was planned. it's no wonder people in this city and beyond have still very much on edge. >> reporter: a second manhunt under way. officials issued an arrest warrant for mohamed abrini, a driver who allegedly dropped off one of the suicide bombers who attacked the paris soccer stadium. he's seen on camera two days before the attacks, at this french gas station, with the other attacker, salah abdeslam. tonight the manhunt for abdeslam has extended to germany. but police came up empty handed, after conducting a certain of the northwestern part of the country prompted by a tip from french officials. and, a chilling revelation in
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paris. investigator says the leader of the isis terrorist cell that carried out the deadly friday 13th attacks was on the verge of carrying out a second wave of death and destruction. the target this time, busy work and shopping district. according to the paris prosecutor, the plan wiped out last wednesday, along with those who were poised to carry it out in this violent police raid in s saint-denis. investigators revealed the isis cell leader abdelhamid abaaoud was in cell phone contact directing killers and suicide bombers as they went about striking targets. then abaaoud returned to the scenes to see the carnage firsthand. questions are now being raised about the cell phone video posted by isis, was it from abaaoud's own phone? even though a second attack was thwarted, paris still remains on alert.
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subway stations in the central part of the city closed, one evacuated. according to paris police, triggered as result of information they received. by day's end, all of those stations have reopened. so, martin, we're learning new information about dna, possibly linked to the terrorists behind these attacks? >> reporter: yeah. this is an issue, it's ongoing, because the authorities are trying to make sure that they have everyone, or they know of everyone that was involved in the attack here. so, there has been dna identified in that apartment raided that they don't know who that belongs to. and then they have also, this was announced today, uncovered dna on one of the weapons that was found one of the abandoned vehicles. does it suggest that it's connected to somebody in that apartment, or is it somebody else? the real fear is that there is another attacker or attackers
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out that could do harm, or someone else still on the run someplace else. they've got to account for everyone and figure out how they got here, where they are now, john. >> martin savidge in paris. much more on latest developments out of pear rparis. why would the ring leader return to the scene of the crime? plus -- a brand-new warning from the u.s. state department for americans planning to travel this week, pretty much all americans. moderate to severe crohn's disease is tough, but i've managed. except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor,
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm john berman, in for jake tapper. the national lead, new worldwide travel alert from the state department with concerns over the possibility of a paris-style attack. americans are being warned to be on the lookout for suspicious activity, especially as they crowd airport terminals and train stations for holiday travel this week. cnn's rene marsh joins me now. is this related to a specific terror threat? >> when you look at the big picture, a rush be passenger plane blown out of the sky, attacks in beirut, paris, mali. absolutely, increased terror activity triggered the new state department travel alert, happening as millions of americans are traveling for the holiday season. they are being told to remain on alert and avoid large crowds we've seen this alert issued for a specific region. but what's different here is this is a worldwide alert. meaning, there's a potential for an attack wherever you travel. it is important to note, though,
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this does not mean people shouldn't travel, but it does mean be vigilant, because the threat is real. we do know that airlines continue to fly to places like brussels and paris, john. >> i'm here in new york, just outside where i am right now, macy's parade goes right by here, thousands of people lining streets, maybe millions lining the streets what happen are the plans to keep this city safe during the parade? >> they are expecting record breaking crowd because of the weather. it's going to be pretty warm. commissioner bill bratton said, just said, there is no direct, credible threat against the thanksgiving day parade. that said, there will be a show of force like never before. take a listen. >> we employ counterterrorism overlay that includes elements of visible police presence around the thanksgiving festivities. this will include extra uniformed police officers and traffic agents, additional mobile cameras, helicopters, canine, mounted units.
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>> specially trained dogs will sniff for traces of explosives in the air. radiation detectors will be used to find any evidence of a dirty bomb. meantime, nypd boosting the number of detectives assigned to investigating a flood of suspicious incidents reports, happening in the wake of the paris attacks. they are saying that reports are 200% the volume of a normal week. >> i understand the new york police department is sharing what kind of tips they're getting. what are they hearing? >> they say some of the tips, coming in on tonight 911, others flagged doing key word searches on social media, internet, ranging between someone reporting a man abandoning a car on a bridge, to someone posting video on the internet posing with guns. it really runs a wide range here. nypd saying some of these will be credible, may be credible,
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some may not, but the bottom line, checking all of them out. >> rene marsh, thank you so much. i want to talk about the threat in the swuds acrou.s. and acros globe. shawn, talk about the global warning, travel warning out from the state department. what goes into making that decision to issue that? what is the fbi doing behind the scenes to keep things safe. >> john, it is the totality of what we're seeing throughout western europe and through the middle east. the fbi working with state and local law enforcement agencies through the joint terrorism task forces, more than 100 jttfs around the country staffed with multiple federal, state, local agencies. they're going out now and they have really turned up the heat in the course of their investigations. while they're investigating terrorists, jihadists and those that they believe are aligned with terror, they're pretty passive. they're collecting intelligence,
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trying to determine the full scope of the organizations that somebody might be involved in, if they're planning a threat. but now, sense what we've seen in paris, they're out there being much more proactive, aggressive, turning over every rock, trying to develop credible intelligence to help them assess if there's a pending threat and disrupt that. right now intelligence is the key piece to help them disrupt that. >> paul crook shauickshank, wha sources saying about the possibility of new threats across europe? >> they're very worried. in fact, they know these threats are coming, they know there's a network behind what we saw play out in paris on friday, what we nearly saw play out in paris on wednesday, and this threat we're now seeing in belgium. that network is a group of isis operatives, some who have climbed up at the isis highera y
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hierarchy, tasked by the senior leadership to launch a rolling series of attacks in europe against countries targeting isis in syria and iraq. and they're organizing the various language groups to target various countries, so they're getting british isis recruits to target the uk, dutch isis recruits, netherlands, germans, and so on. there's a real concern now that paris is the beginning of what will be a very worrying few months, john. >> a rolling series of attacks. paul, what's the latest theory on what abdelhamid abaaoud, why he would go to the scene of these attacks in paris on the 13th in the hours after they happened? >> well, one possible explanation is that he was going there to film the carnage, the aftermath for propaganda purposes. isis really drilling into their operatives and fighters at the need to film their attacks, to film the aftermath of the
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attacks. they're saying that's almost as important as launching the attacks themselves. we saw with abdelhamid abaaoud that cell that he was leading in belgium, in january, they found gopro cameras in the us eastern belgium they raided, indicating that group planned to fim their attacks. back in january, an isis-inspired terrorist filmed a seven-minute sequence with a gopro camera of him killing people that kosher market, tried download it on the internet, it appears to have failed. it hasn't come out. but one of the explanations, there was a video that came out over the weekend with some video from the aftermath that isis put out there. but it's not clear whether that cell phone footage is something that potentially abdelhamid
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abaaoud shot. >> it's clear for some of the group, cameras as much weapons of terror as guns themselves. what other piece of information came out terrorist as peered to do some scouting of the site they attacked. they cased these sites. people say if they were there, maybe there should have been signs, should have been ways to catch them beforehand. but it's in the that simple, is it? >> certainly not. i mean these people, one of their capabilities is to blend in perhaps as a tourist or regular citizen on the street, on their way to work. they're discretely filming but looking for ingress and egress points. they're looking at security that might be available. they may be looking to see where cameras are placed. so they're doing their reconnaissance in advance when they approach to attack they can be more tactical, much more strategic. ha regardless these are the things we need to look for in the united states. some of the anomalous behavior, if you see somebody asking
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questions, appear to be suspicious, filming for prolonged period of time, somebody comes back to the same spot. things u.s. officials are looking for people to report to law enforcement so we can be disruptive again. that's collecting intelligence, allowing law enforcement to take action. >> thank you so much. politics lead -- donald trump not backing down from his latest claims at the latest polls out show he has a brand-new rival neck and neck. former friend, can they stay that way? that's next.
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to say about one member of the 2016 republican candidate class, senator ted cruz. listen to trump fawn over the senator a few weeks ago. >> he said finest things about moo consistently, i will certainly say that about him. i like him a lot. i agree with much of what he says. and we just have a very good relationship. i don't know if that's going to continue. i assume if we're the last two standing, that probably won't continue. >> uh-oh. just a few hours we'll learn if that friendship will last, because ted cruz is now number two, a close number two to donald trump in iowa. joinings now, cnn political reporter sara murray with donald trump. what's the latest from there? >> reporter: that's right. we'll see if trump takes a tougher tone with cruz today. the other big question, will he continue his tough on terror message and repeat some unsubstantiated claims he's using to make his case to
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voters. >> reporter: donald trump never wanted to shy away from controversial comment, isn't starting now. >> the reporters are call all day, all night, they want to find out, did trump make a mistake. >> reporter: trump is say he watched from his manhattan apartment as people jumped from the twin towers on 9/11. >> i have a win go my apartment that was aimed at world trade center because of the beauty of the downtown manhattan, and i watched as people jumped, and i watched the second plane come in. >> reporter: people were seen jumping from towers that day, trump's apartment in midtown foul miles from where the world trade center towers stood. >> many people jumped, i witnessed it i watched that. >> reporter: trump defending his deburninged claim, large crowds in new jersey celebrating the day of the 9/11 attacks. pointing to a line in a "the washington post" story published a week late that said law enforcement had detained people allegedly seen cheering on rooftops in jersey city. >> holding tailgates, tailgate,
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you know what that means? tailgate. that means football games, ohio state, thousands of people, in parking lots, on roofs. >> reporter: government officials, and even the reporter who wrote that story, say the investigation uncovered no such celebration. trump points to his twitter followers as evidence to the contrary. >> so all of a sudden, i'm getting all of these tweets, i saw it, i was there, i was this -- but i saw it. i saw it. >> reporter: the gop front-runn front-runner's dubious claims don't appear to be damaging him in the eyes of voters. a new poll shows trump leading the field with 25% support in iowa. he has a new chief rival. texas senator ted cruz, close behind at 23% doubling hi support from a month ago. dr. ben carson rounds out the top three, at 18%, dropping ten points from october. so far trump has offered only
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kind words towards cruz. but he's hinted, that might change from cruz started to rise. >> senator cruz has been so nice to me, i can't hit him. i may have to if he starts getting like really close. i may have to. john, we've seen cruz and trump shadowboxing around each other. but now two of them at top of the polls in iowa, just around the corner, we'll see if those gloves finally come off. >> very interesting. sara murray in myrtle beach, thank you so much. talk with the founder of correct the record, super pac backing hillary clinton, drafd brock. with us, kelly ann conway, runs a super pac supporting ted cruz. i imagine this morning was a happy morning you saw the new iowa poll, ted cruz surging there we saw pictures of donald trump and ted cruz arm in arm, huggy-huggy. that can't be the way it is anymore. >> it could be for ted cruz and
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his supporters. donald trump has made very clear that he will tackle back against anybody who either insults him or catches up with him in the polls. obviously senator cruz hasn't insulted anyone. everybody says he's so nice to donald trump. look at debates he's been supportive and polite to all of the others, senator rubio's team started to hit him. so he'll hit back. we'll see what donald trump does. super pac of senator cruz himself will continue to make his case to the voters. >> doesn't he have to differentiate himself from donald trump? what will be the issues in which he does that? >> yes. i think you're already seeing than for example, people traditionally think washington experience is the death knell for a presidential candidate. this year the governors couldn't get much traction. executive experience, i'm a governor, i make important decisions for my people, terrific. either gone from the race or close to it. turns out, with all of the issues, isis, foreign poll, national security, illegal immigration, being in the crosshairs of washington, it's senator cruz and a few others
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who have a day job that puts them in the intersection there. you can be an outsider but you need outsider with insider experience. somebody who has sat in briefings and one of 100 people in country that votes on this stuff. >> i'm from washington, i'm the outsider you want? >> who is ted cruz? washington? does he have a friend in washington? ted cruz is talking trade anti-washington guy, anti-establishment guy. the country hates washington, washington hates ted cruz. and so i think that is the difference. you already see with ben carson's number, fun to flirt with an outsider but get serious. big difference between sending a message and sending one to the white house. >> david, switch gears now to the democratic side of the case. approval ratings on president obama and his handling of terrorism and isis. look at that, do you approve of the president's handling of terrorism? 54% no. asked approve of his handling of
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isis, it's worse. so, you support hillary clinton. >> sure. >> she was secretary of state for four years. how much of this is her responsibility? how much of this is disapproval of her? if it's not related to her hoe does she differentiate herself from the president? >> another poll shows that hillary clinton in the eyes of the voters trumps, trump and everyone else in the republican field as to who you trust, who is the most prepared to deal with terrorism issue. so, as far as president obama's concerned, we're in the immediate aftermath of the tragic attack. people are probably scared, confused. and he and secretary kerry are doubling down. and they know they have to do more. now secretary clinton gave an amazing speech last week in new york city where she laid out a detailed plan as to what she thinks should be done, and some sof that would go further than president obama would go now. and in fact, when she was secretary of state, in the inner
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counsel, she counselled aggressive tactics and strategies. she has her on political identity, she's her own political brand. polls are showing voters trust her. immediately the terrorist attack, republicans have the advantage. that's the case with hillary clinton. she's got resolve. she's tough. >> i want to know what's going on behind closed doors at clinton world. do you think the president is net plus or net minus in. >> which president? >> obama. >> he's a net plus. >> clinton/obama 2016 is what you want to run on? >> sure. cementing the president's legacy is important. >> are you like, yes! clinton/obama, 2016, good for republicans. >> we take secretary clinton seriously as an opponent. it's the obama legacy was so great and needed to be solidified why didn't joe biden, the vice president run, most
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foreign policy person raced so far in this juncture. hillary clinton was barack obama's, president obama's secretary of state. this is the obama/clinton doctrine. you hear people like senator cruz talking about the obama/clinton doctrine. >> the republican side, hold on, republicans, the reason trump and cruz are ahead here, they're not looking for a serious policy on isis. they're looking for an attitude and it's an attitude of anger and belligerence, that's why they're the two front-runners. paris has sorted out the republican race, i believe and what we're seeing is the most extreme, most divisive and disagreeable two emerge to the top. >> nobody looks at hillary clinton as warm accessible negotiator building consensus across the aisle. she's running a campaign based on sexism, rescue women as victims of the pate arcy. >> better than alienating
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majority of the country, whether muslim americans, blacks, gays and women. >> thanks for being with us. tracking terrorists before they strike here in the united states. new steps being taken to find them. we have an exclusive look how the intelligence community's doing this next. you pay your car insurance
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm john berman in for jake tapper. world lead -- the fear of terror attacks has many wondering if their country, even city, is next. what is being done to stop terrorists before they strike? tonight, cnn's chief national security correspondent, jim
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sciutto, has an exclusive look behind the secret front lines. >> reporter: it all happened within a few minutes. in the street, the cafes, at the game, and the concert. but could what happened in paris happen in the u.s.? >> i don't know of a time when we've been beset by more threats. >> reporter: al qaeda and isis lurking beyond america's reach. >> tracking isis movements today in iraq and syria. >> that's a tough problem. >> reporter: and the lone wolves, inspired from afar, but acting alone. can american intelligence stay ahead of the terrorists?
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jim sciutto join me now. you had unprecedented access to intelligence facilities what happen have you learned? >> first of all, it huge, right? you have 16 intelligence agency, people know about the cia, nsa but 14 others, nga, looks at satellite data, all of these divisions in there 100,000 people working on this day and night. that's one thing. and they have capabilities, john, that i certainly wasn't aware of. i mean i didn't know, for instance, that satellites today, they're not just taking picture but was live video. they can sense, they can feel vibrations, sense radioactive signatures, et cetera. i mean, imagine what that does from, you know, a few hundred miles up in the sky. so, they have a lot of threats but also have really tremendous kind of 21st century capabilities. >> i had no idea. fascinating in and of itself. jim, what is keeping these people up at night? what's keeping intel against officials applause at night? the biggest fear?
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>> that's the question i kept asking. director clapper at the end, the variety of threats. a scale, the small players like isis capable of carrying out relatively small attacks, still deadly. but big players, superpower players like china, russia -- i didn't know this -- already have the ability through cyberattacks to shut down key u.s. infrastructure from afar, aviation, financial, et cetera. that scope of problems, it's multipolar writ large and that's what truly keeps them up at night. fascinating. worth the watch. >> sounds like you learned a lot, which means we learn a ton. do not miss "targeting terror inside the intelligence war "9:00 eastern right here on cnn. that is all for "the lead" today. i'm john berman. follow me on twitter, in for jake celebrating thanksgiving.
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happening now -- breaking news, stab in the back,
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a russian jet shot down in flames, turkey says it fired after the warplane violated its airspace. russia's president putin calls it a stab in the back. is the crisis now escalating. thwarted plot, warrant issued for a new suspect in the pear ris terror attacks. the mastermind of those attacks have planned another round of slaughter. securing america -- as word comes out of europe about possible attacks against shopping malls, u.s. authorities are warning local law enforcement to be prepared for active shooters, and to keep a close eye on possible soft targets. and propaganda war -- a sophisticated, new isis video taunts america. violent images aimed at scaring one audience, attracting another audience, eager, new recruits from around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."


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