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because although, you know, something terrible happened, a lot of good has come from it. and we're working to make sure that a lot more good comes from it. >> and with that happy thanksgiving to you. brianna keilar's up next. thanks for watching. new terror fears and new efforts to fight terrorism. i'm brianna keilar, welcome to cnn "newsroom." france reeling after bloody attacks, french president francois hollande is making the rounds of major powers, seeking a stronger coalition against isis. today he took his case to moscow, but nicole ligs building is threatened by growing tensions between russia and turkey. russia is demanding an apology for the downing of one of its warplanes. and turkey's president is saying no way. now russia is stepping up the pressure to point sophisticated
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missiles next door. all of this as europe gets a fresh security scare even as the hunt is stepped up for fugitive terror suspects. we begin with cnn senior pentagon correspondent barbara starr. tell us, barbara, any progress we're seeing in the talks between french and russian leaders? >> good afternoon, brianna. well, at the end of the meeting the two sides agreed to share intelligence about isis and other terrorist organizations, but will russia really join the coalition? it doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. french president francois hollande's meeting with russian president vladimir putin pressed for joint action against isis. >> translator: because we have common victims, we must act. >> reporter: but earlier in the day putin giving no signal that russia is in the mood for conciliation. in the wake of the shootdown of its fighter jet by turkey. >> translator: until now we've heard neither clear apologies
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from the highest political level of turkey nor promise to punish the guilty. >> reporter: turkey's president in an exclusive interview with cnn's becky anderson made his position clear. >> translator: if there's a party that needs to apologize, it's not us. those who violated our air space are the ones who need to apologize. >> reporter: turkish and even u.s. warplanes may soon have to deal with this. putin's latest move, the s-400 anti-air missile system the russians say they have sent into syria. moscow says these are the initial components already arriving in country. if the system becomes fully operational at latakia air base, it will give the russians the capability to control hundreds of miles of turkish and syrian air space. the pentagon doesn't believe the system is operational yet, but is watching developments by the hour.
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a u.s. military official tells cnn. if the russians activate the s-400, u.s. warplanes may have to start flying with specialized electronic jamming aircraft. >> it spoofs the missile along with the packages that are on board the fighter aircraft to cause if a missile does launch to be confused about the target so it doesn't hit the target. >> reporter: but there is also concern for the safety of u.s. special operations troops set to arrive in northern syria near the turkish border within days to help fight isis. there is worry they could get caught in the middle if russia and turkey have further hostilities. and in the latest sign of tension russia announced it is cutting military cooperation ties with turkey. doesn't look like this is going to come down any time soon, brianna. >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you so much. i want to go live to moscow and
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cnn senior correspondent matthew chance. so, matthew, you have russia announcing it's moved this anti-air missile system into syria. we heard the point is to confuse a missile so maybe it doesn't reach its intended target, but overall what's really the goal here with this? >> well, i mean, the russians have said that they didn't deploy a missile system like this previously because they didn't consider that their aircraft that are flying bombing raids against isis and other rebel groups would be targeted by countries that russia says it believed were its allies. it's obviously referring to the shootdown by turkish plane on tuesday, you know, in the skies over the turkish-syrian border. this has been a massive shock to the russians. they're extremely angry about it. and the fact they've put these s-400 missiles on the ground and they'll be operational soon, you can see them being loaded off the trucks into the latakia air base, is just part of their
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response that we don't know how they're going to use them. we don't know whether they're going to use it to close off the air space over syria. but it's the kind of missile that has that kind of capability. and so it really escalates the abilities of russia on the ground now in syria to control the air space, if it chooses to over syria. >> this morning, matthew, vladimir putin met with france's president francois hollande. francois hollande trying to get some global cooperation to combat isis, but these tensions between russia and turkey, are they complicating this effort that the french government is attempting? >> well, i think they are, yes. because remember this visit by francois hollande was conceived of before the shootdown of the russian plane. it came after the paris terror attacks. francois hollande hoping to build an international coalition to defeat isis. russia has also been effected badly by isis. they blew one of its airliners
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out of the skies recently with the lost of 224 people. so they've got common cause. and they're united in that sense. but the fact that one of the key alliance members, turkey, has now taken the step of shooting a russian airplane out of the sky in combat has really complicated things because the russians are less inclined now to join that alliance. they said they discussed putin said earlier discussed the possibility of a coalition being formed under the auspices of the united nations. that's something the russians say they support. but they said other countries, and i think they were referring to the united states about this, are not willing to operate under u.n. auspices. and so, you know, it looks like the idea, the brief glimpse that we had that could have been an international coalition which includes russia to defeat isis is slipping away. >> all right, matthew chance for us in moscow. thank you so much. i want to go in depth now on all of this with our cnn military analyst retired air force
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lieutenant colonel rick fr francona. the russians are sending this antiair missile system to syria, with turkey shooting down this warplane after an incursion into turkish air space, that's what turkey is saying and i heard you say that's what happened earlier that it was a minor incursion, what will this system mean for u.s. air strikes in this area? >> well, it's just another complicating factor that all the mission planners have to take into consideration. this is a very capable system. this is state-of-the-art. the russians built excellent air defense stuff and it's got a tremendous range. it can range as far as insur lic air base. it's a problem for the planners to have to do that. we have specialized electronic jamming aircraft that can handle this system, but it's just something we don't really need. but on the other hand the russians have just lost an
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aircraft, it just is military prudence to bring some sort of air defense system in to make sure it doesn't happen again. it's an escalation, but i don't think it's a serious problem for us, it just complicates things for our planners. >> okay. it complicates things you say. at this point in time you have u.s. special forces who are arriving, they're going to be arriving in northern syria in just a few days now. is there going to be any danger for them if this fighting between russia and turkey escalates? >> well, hopefully it won't, but yes, that could present a problem because, you know, our personnel are going to be operating up in that northeastern corner of syria, pretty far removed from this bor border area where this incident took place, but turkey has a long border with syria and isis controls much of that -- well, a piece of it. much of it is under control of the kurds. so i don't think the introduction of this system is going to effect our guys, but the strain between the relationship of russia and turkey is going to be a problem.
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the turks control access to northern syria. and we need them as part of the coalition. >> putin is saying at this point he wants an apology for this, colonel, and erdogan is saying no way we're not apologizing for this. do you see either side blinking at some point? >> well, you know, someone has to be the adult in the room here. i don't know which one it's going to be. i don't see any one of them stepping up to the plate right now. but we need to ratchet this down. we don't need to have these two going after each other because all that does is serve the purposes of isis. when you've got the coalition fighting each other they're not going to be concentrating on fighting the real enemy. so, you know, that's a problem. how's it going to play out? i don't know. the russians have been very aggressive not just in turkey but on all of nato's borders. putin needs to realize that if we're going to work together, he cannot constantly be sticking his finger in the eyes of nato. >> yeah, lieutenant colonel rick
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francona, great insight, thanks for joining us. have a wonderful thanksgiving. we have some breaking news. a fence jumper at the white house put the white house into lockdown just a short time ago. and as the first family was at home celebrating the thanksgiving holiday. so this is something that obviously the secret service takes very seriously. i want to go now to cnn's athena jones. give us the latest on this, athena. >> reporter: hi, brianna. as you said the white house is still in lockdown, but i can tell you that the secret service detained this man almost as soon as he made it over the fence. but the fact that he made it over the fence is very problematic. i believe we may have a picture that you can put up on the screen. i can't see the screen you're seeing, but we do have a picture of him. >> we have a picture of him with a flag jumping over the fence. >> reporter: exactly. he made it over first set of barriers, bike racks. then made it over the second larger fence you can see there. that fence includes 7-inch steel spikes that were added just a few months ago to avoid exactly
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this type of scenario. because as you know this is not the first time, it's not the second time that a person has made it over the white house fence. this is very concerning. those spikes were added as part of a temporary measure. they're working on a longer term measure to buttress that barrier, make the fence more difficult to scale. certainly didn't work today. the first family was at home celebrating thanksgiving dinner. and i've got to tell you this happened in september of 2014, october of 2014, march of this year, april of this year. perhaps the most infamous one was the one back in september of 2014 when a manmade it over the fence and all the way into the white house, all the way into the east room that we know from all the big events that are held there. so this is very, very serious. clearly the measures that have been taken so far aren't working. so there's going to be a re-examining of this of course by the secret service, brianna. >> all right.
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athena, we'll keep an eye on this. we know the white house is still under lockdown right now. just ahead, europe is on edge, suspicious powder set off a major security scare at a brussels mosque as france steps up the hunt for suspects in the bloody paris massacres. and they were on stage when the slaughter began. members of the band eagles of death metal are talking about this nightmare at the paris theater. quiet! mom has a headache! had a headache! but now, i...don't excedrin® is fast. in fact for some, relief starts in just 15 minutes. excedrin®. now available in geltabs.
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and this triggered a massive security response as you can imagine that comes as france steps up urgent efforts to find two fugitive suspects in the paris massacres. i want to go live to cnn's martin savidge to give us the latest. tell us what's happening from where you are, martin. >> reporter: hey, brianna. well, for both france and for belgium it's sort of been an up and down and then up again kind of thing when it comes to the fear, when it comes to the level of security. once again here in france security is being beefed up not only for the search of the two expected surviving terrorist suspects, but also for the special environmental convention world leaders will attend starting on monday. and then on top of that there's what's happening in belgium. belgium remains on edge. today police raided a home in a small town just south of brussels. no arrests were made. and authorities wouldn't say who or what they were after. this on the same day brussels special decontamination teams were called in after ten
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envelopes containing a white powder were discovered by a mail room worker at the grand mosque, raising fears of a possible anthrax attack. >> translator: they found white powder and said the person who opened the envelope called emergency services immediately. saying they didn't know what it was. we set up a preventive operation. >> reporter: seven people were isolated and treated by medical personnel for exposure to the unknown powder. testing revealed it was nothing more than flour. back in paris authorities continue to investigate the possibility that radicalized islamic workers are infiltrating the french transportation system. cnn's obtained a report from the french interior ministry showing government concerns about the problem date back to at least 2004. french intelligence officials were worried about the possibility that radicalized employees were working at charles de gaulle airport. the document mentions illegal prayer sites used by several muslim workers at the airport and says that these same workers belong to mosque preaching
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radical islam. some of these individuals openly showed any american views and showed their support and enthusiasm regarding the 9/11 attacks, according to the same document. one official told cnn that 50 employees at charles de gaulle had been denied access to secure location since january due to suspicions that they have been radicalized. french transportation unions have been complaining about radicalization saying that some bus drivers have refused to acknowledge women and have been found praying inside their bus when they are supposed to be driving their routes. tonight, two suspected terrorist attackers are still at large, salah abdelsalam and mohamed abrini, who were pictured together at this french gas station two days before the attacks. salah abdelsalam was last seen headed to belgium. authorities believe both men may be getting help from a support network. tomorrow will mark two weeks since the paris attacks.
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and to mark that time there is a memorial service planned tomorrow morning. president hollande will speak. there is expected to be a large crowd of dignitaries that will be on hand, the singing of the national anthem and then a national minute of silence to remember all those who died. brianna. >> martin savidge for us in paris, thank you so much. and i want to bring in now cnn intelligence and security analyst bonn baer, and cnn national security analyst juliet former dhs assistant secretary. so, bob, you heard that report that martin just gave. how hard is it to track these transit workers who may have been radicalized? >> it's virtually impossible. it's a guessing game. they could be online looking at islamic sites. they could hol lom in, but terms who's going to turn to violence who would blow up an airplane or not is very, very difficult. and of course the downside of this you can't take anybody susceptible to islamic
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propaganda and remove them from the airport, it would cause chaos in france. the french are very good and doing the best they can, but we're doing the same thing in our airports. just because you suspect somebody doesn't mean you can fire them. this is really an uphill battle to make sure the airports, the employees are properly vetted. >> what about in the u.s., juliet? do officials here monitor transit workers? >> they don't at airports for the most part. i mean, there's the overall assessment about who this person is when they get their original security clearance, but most airports do not have metal detectors or other things like that for most employees. they get in through different doors than passengers like us. so there's a series of layer defenses at all of these airports, one is the security check, the background check randomness. so they'll come in. but, you know, bob is right. you can't -- no check is going to discover the mindset of a person. and so what needs to be done is determine whether there's activity that would suggest
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nefarious actions in the future. >> what about some of the screenings, juliette, pilots go through schooling, they have screenings including mental health screenings, but what about for bus drivers or more importantly transit workers who operate train systems? what about them? >> well, there's different sets of clearances and credentials for different transportation systems. it will seem confusing to most people. there's something called twik, it's transit worker identification card for ports and transit. lots of states and localities have different systems in terms of identification and clearances. but no system is testing every person at every moment. and we just have to balance that against major urban transit systems that can't come grounding to a halt because you're checking everyone who works there or works around there. so it's just a constant balancing act that's never going
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to get the risk to zero. but through layer defenses you can try to minimize the risk. but we can't bring the transportation systems to a halt because you put a security layer so strong up against it. >> bob, i want to turn now to talk about these two suspects in the paris attacks still on the loose, salah abdelsalam and mohamed abrini. what does it say to you about whether they're getting some sort of help here? do you think there's any way that they can remain on the run here without getting some sort of assistance? >> look, the problem is that these people obviously have a network. you can't move around europe without a network. i mean, i've operated in belgium and france, you can't use your own documentation, credit cards and the rest of it. so, yes, they'd have a network. and i'm sure they've fallen back on that which makes it very difficult for the police to run them down. >> what do you think, juliette, a network in europe they can rely on, but what about leaving europe? do you think they could have? >> i think it's much more
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difficult. they can certainly go to northern africa and then from there travel to the sub saharan africa or other places, but the chances since we know who they are and presumably we know who their backup folks are, it would be much more difficult for them to get on a plane and get to the united states at this stage, or even canada or mexico for that matter. >> all right. thanks so much to both of you joining us on this holiday. and a very happy thanksgiving to you and your families today. >> you too. >> thanksgiving, you too. >> you as well. they witnessed the horror, they came face-to-face with killers. >> and i can see the gunman. and he looked right at me. and he shot at me, and he missed. >> now members of the american band that was playing in that concert hall in paris, well, they're sharing how they survived the terror attacks, yet they watched as so many others lost their lives. people don't have to think about
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for the first time we are hearing from members of the american band that was playing in the bataclan concert hall where terrorists killed 89 people the night of the paris attacks. this is a gripping interview where they reveal chilling new details of the carnage. cnn's brian todd is here with this story. brian. >> brianna, this was a nearly two-hour siege. and these band members along with other survivors say one of the memories that haunts them is the image of the attackers constantly reloading their weapons. one band member says whenever the shooting stopped, it would
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start again. ♪ >> reporter: the moment when an upbeat joyful evening at the bataclan theater turned chaotic. the band eagles of death metal was on stage and exposed. [ gunfire ] in their first interview since the paris attacks, the band's sound engineer tells the news organization vice people started dropping to the ground. and he came face-to-face with a gunman. >> he looked right at me. and he shot at me. and he missed. and he hit my console. buttons went flying everywhere. >> reporter: sean london told vice that's when he hit the floor. >> i think he thought i probably got hit because i went down so quickly and everybody else around was injured. there's blood all over. he stayed there and continued to shoot and shoot and slaughter and just scream the top of his lungs, allahu akbar. >> band members say the most awful thing they saw was the
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attackers relentlessly shooting into the audience in the packed ground floor section. other survivors gave similar accounts saying after the gunmen came through the front entrance and shot people there. >> then they moved upstairs by the stage on to the first level. and that's when they shot at the crowd. anyone who moved was shot. >> reporter: cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd says given the meticulous planning of the paris attacks and the operational security of the isis cells, the nature of the bataclan assault was surprising. >> the attackers were overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment. they just went in and shot everything they could find. the indiscriminate nature of this to me was striking. >> members of eagles of death metal eventually got off stage, up to the room and exit out a door. some scrambled out, others hung from window sills. as he reflected on those
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moments, the band's co-founder told vice he wants to be the first to play at the bataclan when it reopens. and he'll always feel a strong connection with the fans inside the concert hall. >> kids that were there i feel like we are in it together especially now. and really i'm grateful for that. >> the band's musicians all made it out alive, but their merchandise manager nic alexander was killed. one band member says after he was shot alexander stayed quiet, he didn't call out for help because he didn't want to draw the terrorists attention and get anyone else hurt. brianna. >> it's unbelievable, brian. we also know now terrorists actually had aspirations to attack this theater long before this assault, right? >> that's right. a source close to the investigation tells cnn that fabien clain, a top isis militant was involved in the threats against the bataclan in 2009. clain had aspirations to attack the theater we're told because it has jewish owners at the time
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involved in fund raising for israeli border guards. so at least one ringleader of this cell had designs on that theater at least six years ago. >> brian todd, thanks for that story. coming up, here's a question, did donald trump knowingly mock a reporter's disability? the republican presidential front-runner speaking out about his latest campaign controversy. plus, protesters threatening to disrupt black friday shopping. we'll be getting a live update from chicago on the anger and the outrage over the police shooting that has an officer charged with murder. ♪ nothing artificial. just real roasted turkey. salt. pepper. carved thick. that's the right way to make a good turkey sandwich. the right way to eat it? is however you eat it. panera. food as it should be.
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dis -- in the news statement trump says i have no idea who this reporter serge kovaleski is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence. despite having one of the all-time great memories, i certainly do not remember him. cnn's athena jones is back here with me in washington. i know there's another statement, but also athena, just to give context to this. this is a reporter who covered trump for some time, right? >> he did. this reporter serge kovaleski covered trump when he worked at the new york daily news some time ago. and for quite a while. and that is who is at the center of this latest controversy. but in this new statement yet another statement trump is now demanding an apology from the "new york times." he's accusing this reporter of using his disability to
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grandstand. donald trump under fire again, this time for seeming to mock a reporter's disability. >> you got to see this guy, i don't know what i said, i don't remember. he's going like i don't remember, maybe that's what i said. >> "new york times" reporter serge kovaleski has a condition that causes contortions in his limbs. trump this week has been citing a story kovaleski wrote for "the washington post" in 2001 that referred to people allegedly seen celebrating the 9/11 attacks. >> what happened? what happened? >> but kovaleski said this week that he did not recall finding anyone who said there were thousands or even hundreds of people celebrating the fall of the twin towers as trump has claimed. trump denies mocking kovaleski saying in a statement in part, if mr. kovaleski is handicapped, i would not know because i do not know what he looks like. if i did know, i would definitely not say anything about his appearance. kovaleski previously worked at the new york daily news where he
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covered trump. it's the latest eyebrow raising moment for the gop front-runner who said recently he wishes the election were next week. >> i wish we could move this election up. you know, in a lot of countries you're allowed to pick your date for the election. i want to pick my date for the election. i want it like next tuesday. i want it on tuesday. >> reporter: right now polls show trump leading nationally. and in the early states of iowa and new hampshire. but there's still more than two months before republican voters start making their picks. >> we're not even halftime yet. we have a long way to go. and all the primaries past there's always been a moment where candidates that ultimately are the winner begin to surge. >> reporter: but just how much could the race change between now and february 1st? around this time in 2011 -- >> we need you to get out and vote. >> reporter: mitt romney and newt gingrich were battling it
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out for the lead nationally. >> currently the front runner or tied for front runner. >> romney, the eventual nominee, was out front in new hampshire. but in iowa gingrich had a doub double-digit lead over him. and the eventual winner of the caucuses there, rick santorum, was languishing at just 5%. in 2007 huckabee and romney were tussling for the top spot in iowa while romney led in new hampshire. and rudy giuliani was on top nation nationally. not in the lead, the eventual nominee john mccain. >> we sure showed them what a comeback looks like. >> reporter: now in 2008 and in 2012 the iowa caucuses were held in early january. this year there's an extra month before the voters begin making their choice. so that's more time for events like the cnn debate next month. and another matchup scheduled for late january to potentially shake up the race. brianna. >> certainly we'll see a lot of money coming into the race then
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as well that could change how this all shakes out. athena jones, thanks so much for that report. and i want to get more now on all of this with cnn political commentator tara setmeier, and democratic strategist janise fuentes. if any other candidate said what donald trump said, what would have happened to them? >> well, obviously would have been the normal reaction that usually people have. but let's please do not forget that he cannot say anything racist enough and still lose his base of support. i think he appeals to a certain group of people that find his divisiveness and his bulliness attractive right now. but as you earlier segment did point out, we are still very far away. so it's still -- we still have time to see if his ceiling is really his ceiling, which i think he has hit his ceiling. i think as he continues to see that -- if you look at how
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people for example in focus groups think of him, they do like that he's direct. but they hate that he's a bully. and you have to see that he's been more and more attacked. and the more attacked he gets, the more he will react. and i think that reaction will turn off a lot of the core of the 50% of gop vote who are have not yet decided how they're going to vote. >> tara, what do you think? >> well, i think this is typical trump. he's uncouth, unapologetic and obnoxious. and people like that, you know, jennice is correct in that. the people who like trump like the fact that he says the hell with political correctness i'm going to say what i want. unfortunately that's changed the bar, the level of decency it's lowered it considerably. because i think, you know, him going on and continuing these antics and making fun of people's looks, handicaps, their weight, their face. i mean, this is a comedy routine. and not very presidential. but at some point i think it will reach a point where people are going to have to decide when
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they pull the lever is someone who we actually want to be president of the united states? now, we've seen trump level off a little bit, but recently in the light of the terrorist attacks in paris his numbers have started to go back up again. because you have president obama, the juxtaposition between president obama who is so weak and so passive on things and americans are looking at this going this guy's incompetent, what is going on? then you have trump come in and say we're going to win. and we're going to blast isis back to hell. so people look at him and say, yeah, yeah, that's who we want forgiving him for his other transgressions which i think is not necessarily good. >> jennice, one of the really fascinating parts of athena's report there was that she sort of lays out the state of the race here on thanksgiving keeping in mind that some of the dates for these early contests have changed since 2008 and 2012. but 2008 rudy giuliani was leading nationwide. mitt romney was leading nationwide in 2012. romney won the nomination, giuliani completely cratered.
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so the question from your perspective, which one is donald trump? >> i agree with tara, he's unique in every way. but what you have to look at is why is he where he is. that percentage of the people who are zenophobic who feel that they're ethnic and their identity is being threatened by ethnic and racial diversity, if you look at who supports him, it's all the people who actually believe -- they actually support deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants and the same people who do not support giving any relief to syrian refugees. those people amount for more than 51% of the support of trump. so this is the kind of mindset that regardless of how inevitable change is in the country and demographic and numbers show you that it is coming, they are not willing to accept it. and i do not think for a second that that reflects 100% of the gop voter at all. i agree also with a lot of what
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ted cruz is saying in terms of the tone matters. and he may be the remainderman here. he may be the man where everybody at the end of the day say this actual candidate makes more sense because it represents me, it's not a bully, it's a little more classy and says things that actually represent what i believe in as a person, as a human and as a country. >> and real quick, i want to talk about maybe another alternative which could be marco rubio. specifically talking about same-sex marriage with you, tara, he said after the supreme court decision he said that, you know, basically we must abide by the law and look ahead. but listen to what he told the christian broadcasting network this week. >> it is current law, it is not settled law. no law is settled. we are clearly called in the bible to adhere to our civil authorities, but that conflicts with also the requirement to adhere to god's rules. when those two come in conflict, god's rules always win. if we're ordered to perform a same-sex marriage as someone presiding over it, we are called
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to ignore that. >> so real quick, tara, which is it? and might he in a general if he gets that far be accused of flip-flopping? >> just really quick. i found it interesting that jennice said people who are supportive of trump are ze zenophobes yet ted cruz is pretty tough on illegal immigration as well. people are tired of illegal immigration being shoved down their throats. it's about we want to follow law, want to secure the southern border, don't want a massive flow of illegal immigrants taking jobs from americans, bidding down wages and the host of other things that go along with -- it's about sovereignty and rule of law. that's an interesting perspective. and about marco rubio -- >> really quick, tara, i have minus 15 seconds here. >> this is an issue marco rubio has to have some clarity on. you have to consider the audience on this. he has said that he feels as though he is -- that the ruling in june was -- we're in a
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republic and we have to respect it, but that doesn't mean you can't nominate judges that could potentially overturn it, you can have an activist court. he's going to have to answer for it. that's what campaigns are about. there needs to be some clarity on that, but i think he'll do just fine. >> a majority of independents are in favor of same-sex marriage so we'll see how he explains that moving forward. if he gets that far. tara, jennice, thanks to both of you. up next, there's new video of a scene of a deadly shooting that has a white chicago police officer charged with murdering an african-american teenager. innovative sonicare technology with up to 27% more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. innovation and you. philips sonicare save when you buy the most loved rechargeable toothbrush brand in america.
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this just in to cnn after some tense moments at the white house earlier when a fence jumper got on to the president's front lawn while the first family was celebrating thanksgiving inside the residence. now though we're learning the secret service has given the all-clear. things at 1600 pennsylvania avenue back to normal at this point in time.
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protesters are threatening to disrupt black friday shopping tomorrow in chicago where a white police officer's been charged with murder for the shooting death of a black teen. disturbing dash cam video of the encounter sparked two nights of demonstrations. and cnn's rosa flores is in chicago with the latest for us. rosa. >> reporter: well, brianna, you know until now we've seen about 200 protesters protest at one time. now, they tell us that tomorrow on black friday that that is going to be different. as you know in chicago's magnificent mile there will be hundreds of stores open, thousands of shoppers and demonstrators say that they will have a bigger group of protesters. now, we should add that the mcdonald family, the administration here in this city and also religious leaders they're asking for calm. they're asking for peaceful protests. for the most part that's what we've seen so far and that's what they're calling for tomorrow. as very van dyke he's expected to face a judge for another hearing on monday.
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brianna. >> and so he's expected at this point to face a judge for another hearing. do we know anything else about what he's facing or the latest or what is ahead for him? >> reporter: well, he is facing first-degree murder charges in the killing of laquan mcdonald, the 17-year-old that we see in that very graphic video. now, the judge during his first bond hearing said that he was not going to allow him to be out on bail. he was not going to allow him to post bail. that he wanted to see the video. so on monday the judge is expected to review this video and then determine if he will allow him to post bond at that point in time. so for now he is in custody. and he's expected to face that judge on monday. >> all right. we'll be watching. we know you'll be covering that. rosa flores thank you so much for your report. and for millions of people black friday is starting now. we'll show you which major retailers are open and why
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it is black friday, but ths also thursday. some of the largest retailers are opening their doors on today, thanksgiving. you're looking at live pictures. some large crowds already at the macy's flagship store on new york's herald's square where doors open in about an hour. and cnn correspondent alison kosik has the retail rundown for us. >> hey, brianna, just because it's thanksgiving doesn't mean holiday shoppers are going to be taking the day off. between today and sunday the national retail federation says 136 million people are expected to get out there and shop. and several big box stores are even opening today on thanksgiving as they're looking to get an early jump on the
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holiday shopping season. happening this hour the gap, old navy and banana republic are open to customers to go ahead and get in there and shop. also opening within the next few hours best buy, sears, k-mart, macy's, target and walmart. part of the reason you're seeing these stores open on thanksgiving is some of these retailers are actually struggling. they want the extra business. the other reason, despite all the outrage from those saying it ruins the thanksgiving holiday there's a real demand by consumers to have these stores open their doors on the holiday. interestingly enough consumers are saving more than they are spending these days. the savings rate in october hit its highest level in three years. but there's still plenty of money being spent. just people aren't buying the little stuff. instead they're making big purchases like cars, homes and spending on home improvement projects. so consumers are still out there spending, they're just spending differently. brianna. >> all right. alison kosik for us.
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