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putin says they're ready to do that. but u.s. officials say there are a couple of big ifs out there. and one of the biggest is that s-400 anti-air missile system that we've now seen the pictures of. russia says it's shipping these parts into syria. this is a massive anti-air system. if the russians actually turn it on, make it go operational, they will be able to control a large swath of syrian and, indeed, turkish air space. and for u.s. pilots, that's a big issue. they need to understand what the russian intentions are here. they need to have some understanding that the russians are not targeting them. they need to figure out if they need to change their operations to deal with what the russians are doing. so while the political talk may look pretty conciliatory, on the ground, there are a lot of military issues to iron out before anybody can really talk about real cooperation. >> john? >> barbara, what are we learning about the co-pilot, the one that
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was rescued in that downed russian jet. >> that russian copilot, he has turned up now safe. and what both russian and iranian media are saying is that the iranians were behind the rescue operations to get him. that a very well-known iranian commander, a man named general sulimani, head of the iranian revolutionary guard corps was commanding the operation to get him. s sulimani behind it all. that shows the iranian influence, the iranian ability to command and control operations. something the u.s. has to consider. they also say that now they have basically taken control of that area, that territory, where the pilot was shot down, that they have killed or dealt with all the rebel forces on the ground. it just really underscores the complexity of what is happening there and a lot of difficulty in
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understanding whether or not all of these countries, all of these players really are ready to cooperate. john? >> a lot going on in one very small country. barbara starr, thanks so much. >> let's delve into some of that complexity. joining us now from the university of new york, peter baanard, and deputy director retired air force colonel, cedric layton. i appreciate both of you coming despite, i'm sure, a turkey coma from yesterday, gentleman. >> little bit. >> we want to delve into some of these matters. and pressing right off the bat, i want an idea from each of you the idea that vladimir putin says he's onboard to take isis out, but with a caveat. what's your takeaway from that, peter. do you trust that to be true? because you know he's got a horse in this race. >> russian's number one priority is maintaining russian influence and the person who gives them that influence is bashar al assad, their ally. it's not that russia doesn't
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have some hostility to isis, especially after the downing of that russian jet, the problem is america's agenda is to coalesce all of the rebels ultimately against assad, and that at the end of the day is not what russia wants. >> cedric, so if the motives for both are very different, the united states coalition and russia, even if they are trying to ultimately get to isis. if they're trying to prop up assad and obama and hollande both feel that assad has got to go, can this work? >> reporter: i don't think so michaela. and you know, the way that this is working is basically, it's a piece of paper that hollande and putin in essence agreed to, but it is not reality on the ground and it cannot work if they do not have the same goal. nations have interests, they don't really have friends. and when the interests don't coincide, agreements between them just don't work. >> and that's the thing. when you think about isis, how much, peter, is the fight against isis in syria exintr
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inextricably linked to assad? >> it is. the russians say it's a cache-22, the strongest force we have on the ground against assad, but he's alienated the sunni population so deeply he allows isis to be the kind of -- the champions of the sunni. so you have a western strategy that is weak militarily, and you have a russian strategy that's weak politically against isis. neither really makes. a lot of sense at this point. >> cedric, talking about trying to make sense of this, did turkey mess up? is this an overreaction that has now put them in a really dire situation? because the fact is, russia also holds a lot of pursestrings to turkey. we know a major supplier of natural gases, we know that they are threatening to embargo products and service to that country. so, was this an error on their part? >> oh, michaela, i think so.
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when you look at the natural gas situation, just as an example, 60% of turkey's natural gas comes from russia. and when you look at the amount of time that the russian aircraft, the su-24 was in turkish air space, it's very minimal compared to some other types of threats that could have been out there. so turkey overreacted and right now, not only is turkey possibly paying the price for this, but there's a great danger that nato, and through nato, the united states, could pay a huge price for this as well. >> well, french president hollande, obviously, on a tour, trying to build a coalition, trying to bring together world powers to combat isis. speaking with russia, with the president there. but also calling for cooperation between those countries. which i can understand. he has to ask for that. but again, as cedric was mentioning, on the ground, is that realistic? we know the complicated history those two nations have.
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cooperation between russia and turkey. is that even feasible? >> again, you have this fundamental difference, which is that the strategy to defeat isis from france and the united states involves getting assad out and building up a more moderate rebel force. but the russians don't like that strategy, because it leaves them without influence in syria. and putin's entire foreign policy agenda has been the restoration of russian influence around the world after the collapse of the soviet union. so the problem is, there are a lot of people who don't like isis, but there aren't many countries who have defeating isis as their number one priority. all these countries have other agendas in syria, which have become a battlefield for a whole series of regional conflicts. >> this is just a bigger global view of that. to the uk, we know prime minister david cameron making a play to get support from his nation to support air strikes against isis.
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do you think they have the political will to do that, cedric? final thought. >> i do. i think they do have the political will. i think things have changed from a few months ago where david cameron actually asked for the same power to go into syria. now they've got a reason and that reason is what we see in france and the paris terrorist attacks. and so with that, that will open the door for possible british participation in this. and what really has to happen, michaela, is that everybody has to realize is that isis is ignoring the syrian and iraqi borders and we're getting into a stage where there's a new world order forming in the middle east. and what that's going to look like, it's going to be a whole different thing. >> we appreciate both of you coming in today on this friday. peter, cedric, always our pleasure. thank you. john? breaking news. two suspects under arrest in mali in connection with the attack on a luxury hotel that left 20 people dead. the men both from mali were found thanks to a cell phone left at the scene of the attack. our men launched a deadly raid
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at the madison blu hotel in mali's capital one week ago. hours later, they stormed the hotel, killing two attackers and freeing up to 170 hostages. three islamic militant groups have claimed responsibility for this attack. more breaking news, isis now claiming responsibility for a deadly attack on a shiite mosque inbangladesh. at least one person was killed and three others injured. at least 20 people were in that mosque for evening prayers when the deadly incident unfolded. this is the second attack in a month on a country of small shia population. this morning, a national ceremony in france honoring the 130 people killed, the 350 plus injured in the paris terrorist attacks two weeks ago. the french president reiterated his vow to destroy isis, calling it an army of fanatics with an insane cause. this is a live look now at one of the memorials. we'll have a live report from
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paris in just a few minutes. back here at home. it is black friday. shoppers are poised -- they've got their sneakers on and they are ready to do some retail damage on one of the busiest shopping days of the year, or will it be? many holiday shoppers are apparently getting a head start at stores that were open on thanksgiving. i'm trying to add a air of mystery to this, cristina alesci live at the macy's flagship store in new york's times square. are people coming out? is it going to be what people anticipated today? >> reporter: it looks like it is. it looks like it's actually the middle of the day. you wouldn't know it's close top 6:00 in the morning. actually, there was a huge line behind me, just a few minutes ago, before h&m opened its doors. about 200 people -- the first people in line here were here at 2:00 a.m. i could not believe that when i heard it. but you have all of the most major retailers in the country right here in harold's square. we're going to see a lot of activity. police are already out. mainly, it seems like for crowd
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control reasons. so lots of people coming out. $80 billion, that's how much americans are expected to spend over this holiday season. and obviously, black friday isn't just happening here, it's happening across the country. take a look. >> reporter: overnight, an all-out battle at stores across the nation. just hours into the brutal chase for bargains. >> i got my fist up to somebody's chest if somebody steal something from me. >> reporter: in louisville, kentucky, black friday madness. two men punching and tearing at each other's t-shirt inside a major city mall. tempers flared at this walmart in el paso. holiday shoppers appeared to fight over flat screen tvs, even taking on store security. the yearly stampede spilling into front doors.
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a welcome sight for retailers. hoping to cash in on the holiday frenzy. sales expected to reach $80 billion in the u.s. the average american spending close to $400 throughout the holiday weekend, with some brick and mortar stores now handing out a select number of tickets to people in line for the hottest items. >> we're able to ticket numbers one through whatever we have. that stops a lot of chaos from happening. >> reporter: some shoppers camping out for day. >> we've been here since tuesday night at 9:30. >> reporter: all in an effort to nab great deals, like this flat screen tv, marked down nearly 75%. >> if it's something you want and it's worth it, why not go and get it? >> reporter: so this is really the make or break time of year for retailers. and just a dirty little secret, about 75 to 76% of the money
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spent is spent on just one percent of products. and that means that these retailers have to have the right products in their stores to make their numbers. back to you. >> cristina alesci out there with the folks shopping, thanks so much. in chicago, protesters will use this day to draw attention to the video just released showing a white police officer killing a 17-year-old black teenager. in a few hours, they will walk along michigan avenue. that's the main shopping district in chicago. cnn's ryan young live with the very latest. good morning, ryan. >> reporter: good morning, john. it will be interesting to see how the rain plays into this, because it's raining right now. i can tell you, people will be marching for laquan mcdonald. we've been told for days this was going to happen. this is the magnificent mile behind me. we know black friday is huge here. people are telling us, they'll march from the bridge all the way down. of course, a few days ago, they stopped on the intersection and blocked the traffic here. they are planning to do that again, in fact, some of the
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religious leaders here have been very outspoken about what they want. >> and sit down in the street and block the street on michigan avenue with civil disobedience, peacefully, and say, you know what! business as usual can't go on while our children are dying! >> reporter: we just learned some new information, just this morning. this just into cnn. police here in chicago have made an arrest in tysean lee's murder case. that's the 9-year-old who was lured into an alley and shot in the head. chicago police have made an arrest in the 9-year-old's shooting. we've been told by protesters, not only will they be out here because of the violence from police to people in the community, but they also want to be out here for the violence that's happening in the community as well. that just in the -- the suspect in the 9-year-old shooting death of tysean lee, has been
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arrested. >> that young boy lured into an alley and killed in cold blood. thanks for updating on that. a newly installed layer of spike strips didn't keep out a fence jumper. witnesses apparently heard him say, quote, all right, let's do this, before he took off. the secret service took him into custody seconds later. he can expect some criminal charges to follow. >> always new measures. he got over the fence, but didn't get have far. >> makes you think it's got to be even higher. we'll have much more on the black friday protest expect in chicago this morning. what will it do to that city? how will they now be forced to deal with the problems inside that police department. we're going to break down what the protesters want, next. people don't have to think about
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planning a major protest this morning over the shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald, a black teenager killed by a white police officer. this as leaders there push for a
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federal investigation into the chicago police department. here to discuss, cnn political commentator, marc lamont hill, and sergeant joseph jacolob. so people are supposed to be out in huge numbers buying stuff in the stores, in chicago, michigan avenue, the miracle mile, people will spend a lot of money. why is it important to have this protest today? we just heard from father michael pfleger, who said business cannot go on if people are dying. >> well, that's exactly right. oftentimes, companies and even nation states don't have feelings. they have interests. and one of those interests is financial. if you can get people where it hurts financially, you can draw attention to a problem. all throughout american history, black people in particular, have taken economic measures in order to get people's attention. not because they expect a moral conversion, they expect an interest conversion. they expect the state to respond
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different. but the you shouldn't just have a boycott today or tomorrow, it's to redistribute the pain long-term, so people actually get the outcomes they want. >> and what is that outcome right now, in the near-term? >> i think in the near-term, it's a doj investigation, it's a civil rights investigation, it's a structural analysis of what's going on if the departments. we want to find out what happened in this case, but we want to find out what's going on in chicago and we need concrete steps to solve this problem so the systemic issue there is resol resolved, things like body camera, and review boards, and quicker and stiffer penalties to officers that break the law. >> that phrase of, what is going on in chicago, hold on to that for one second. first, i want to ask about the idea of a federal investigation right now. what would it turn up at this point? because when this happened, when the video came out, so many people saying, this only shines a light on what we know has been
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going on in chicago for some time. >> sure win mean, you think about it, the feds should have been brought into this a lot sooner than they're going to be. there's a lot of different problems in here. we've got to look at the raining th they would get. the different rules of engagement, like isolate and contain, and cover and concealment. those are the hallmarks of any types of involvement, when the police have to use deadly physical force. >> the word "concealments" there, double entendre, because it took a year here to release this video and make these charges. why do you think it took so long to go public here. >> it perceives as a cover-up. this thing is going on for 400 days can. they have the video, you know, well in advance of this, they have reports that don't match up to what we see in the video. we see a payoff to the family before they even file a lawsuit. i mean, these things have to all be looked at. but that's something that the
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federal government's going to have to be looking into. and i can speak for what the police are going to do in respect that this is an internal investigation that that should have been handled much differently than it was. >> and when the feds do go and take a look, does that change things? >> yeah, all bets are off. because then the chicago police department has no authority into anything at that moment. they don't don't have any control into their own members. these people will be forced to talk and trust me, they're going to talk in this. >> marc, i want to go back to something you said before. shine a light on what's going on in chicago. there's a lot going on in chicago right now. just this morning -- >> always. >> -- we have an arrest. you know, we have an arrest in the case linked to tyshawn lee, that 9-year-old kill who was killed in an alley. gang violence, essentially targeted for what seems to be gang reasons. there's a lot going on in chicago. a lot of murders right now. does what's happening with the police, does that happen in a
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vacuum item is that a separate issue than the violence on the streets or are they somehow connected? >> well, we could keep digging and digging and finding layers and layers of connection here. but what we don't want to do is distract from one issue by focusing on the other. oftentimes, when police misconduct happens, we then point to quote black-on-black violence, and it becomes a red herring that lets us off the hook, it almost complies, y'all kill each other, so you shouldn't complain when we kill you. i do have the expectation that law enforcement will protect and serve me. and there's no shortage of black people going to jail for killing each other. there is a shortage of police officers going to jail for killing black people. i want to address the structural problem of violence and address black-on-black violence. but i don't want to mix those two. we should have those
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conversation conversations, but don't let them overlap and distract. >> so if you don't have a community to come in and fix the problem, it just makes the problems worse. >> and community police relations are fractured. they're fractured all over the country, but in places a like chicago and ferguson and other cities like that, you see an even more profound fracture. that's where the lack of people reporting crimes, it all comes from a lack of a trusting and healthy relationship between communities and police. and ultimately, we have to ask the question, is it possible to have a healthy relationship at this point? >> all right, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> michaela? all right, john. the victims of the paris terrorist attacks honored in an emotion until ceremony. french flags flying and tears falling. you're looking live here at a national day of remembrance in paris. we'll take you there live, coming up next. plaque psoriasis...
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two weeks after the terror attacks in paris, grief and
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unity. this morning, president francois hollande presided over a somber national ceremony near napoleon's final resting place. french flags flying from buildings and homes all across france. senior international correspondent jim bittermann is live there in paris, where i can imagine you can feel this moment, you can feel the passion, the resolve of the french people. >> reporter: absolutely, michaela. and you may be able to see a big french flag flying behind me. the french aren't normally as patriotic as americans are, but this is a special occasion, and president hollande asked people to put flags out. in fact, the flag stores have been overrun with orders. some of the stores have sold out, they've said. a very solemn day. it began, of course, with the remembrance ceremony, where the names of the 130 people who were killed were read out. their families were present, a number of the families were
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present, as well as some of the injured who survived. they were also there, present where napoleon's body has been laid to rest. but previous military casualties and presidents have been laid to rest there as well. it's really a place that's reserved for the military, but this morning, they were honoring civilian victims for the first time in history. michaela, all around, a very exceptional morning here in paris. john? >> thanks, jim. jim bittermann for us in paris this morning. donald trump under fire, accused of mocking a disabled "new york times" reporter. the republican front-runner says that's not what happened and now he wants an apology from "the new york times." stay with us. you can't predict... the market. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. for over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions...
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right after a couple of good paragraphs talking about northern new jersey draws the prober's eye, written by a nice reporter -- now the poor guy, you ought to see this guy, oh, i
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don't know what i said, i don't remember -- he's going, i don't remember, maybe that's what i said. this is 14 years ago! they didn't do a retraction. >> that's donald trump talking about "new york times" search koeblessski who wrote an article back in 2001 who said there were investigations about muslims celebrating as the towers said. he now says nothing ever came of those investigations. but the question is, was trump's mocking koeblski's disability. he's saying, he didn't know about his disability. he has a condition which limits the movement of his arms. you can see it in the picture. here to discuss, maggie haberman and senior politics editor for t the daily beast, jackie kucinich. not only is he not apologizing, he's asking for an apology from
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the times himself. he says, he ought to think a lot of thims if he thinks i remember him. if i ever met him, he should stop using his disability to grandstand and get back to reporting for a paper that is rapidly going down the tubes. >> it's like an enigma and a conundrum of insults. >> this was a classic trump tweet yesterday, where he issued this statement. one side of the tweet was this statement insisting he had never met serge, the next side was a statement demanding an apology saying, if i ever met him, which i doubt i did, which then left room for the possibility that he did, while he's insisting that it never happened. i spoke to serge yesterday and serge recalls at least a dozen times they interacted, a bunch face to face, especially when serge was on a flyaround of the now-defunct trump shuttle. he tried to make this into one of his business ventures, flew up and down the east coast in the late 1980s. serge was on that inaugural
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flight. it's possible trump doesn't remember him, but there's certainly reason to believe he would, certainly saying that he began his by saying, he's a nice reporter, but then "this poor guy, you ought to see this guy," this is what trump does over and over again. he says something and tries to undo it by saying, i wasn't really saying that, you're twisting my words, and his supporters don't care. >> he's going with the attack the media thing, which he's done for quite a while, and leveling his criticism at "the new york times," we know he's has a long-standing beef with him. but do you know, has serge said, has he reached out to him -- >> i don't know the answer to that, but i can't have imagine that he has and i'm sure serge would have mentioned that when i spoke to him yesterday. but he said, trump's description that he's backing away from what he wrote, he said, nothing can be further from the truth. and if you look at what serge reportered in that 2001 article, he did not report his own
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eyewitness accounts, he reported that law enforcement officials were detaining and questioning some people who were alleged to have done something. that does not mean, see, that happened. that's proof that happened. that's proof that people checked out claims like that, which those of us who covered september 11th, 2001, as it was happening, remember we were hearing all kinds of these reports. in brooklyn, on atlantic avenue, in new jersey, it's happening. these were never substantiated. >> jackie, there are people looking for apologies here from donald trump, which seems to happen from time to time. he has a policy on apologies, which is essentially, "i never give them." listen to how he has described this in the past. >> i could have said, oh, i misspoke. i'm not big on that, am i? i'm not big on apologies. ion what, there's nothing wrong with an apology, but you have to be wrong. i believe in apologizing, but you have to be wrong. >> i'm not sure he even means that when he says, i believe in apologizing. because i'm not sure i've heard him give one, jackie.
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>> right! and cutting through all of this, what in the world does this have to do with running for president? what in the world does thf to do with being president, other than the fact this is a question of his temperament. but maggie's absolutely right, the people that like him the best don't care. they like he doesn't apologize. they see that as a measure of strength, which is, you know, i guess everyone's entitled to their opinion. i know everyone's entitled to their opinion. but sort of diverting the fact, trump has his facts wrong and he'll do anything to show that somehow he didn't. and -- >> but you know, it's interesting, you talk about, you know, what does this have to do with presidential -- you know, the race of all, but it speaks to tone and temperament. but you look at the reaction that they're getting in the polls, and we can look now since october, trump is maintaining a lead. 32% unchanged, seemingly, from october to november. i have to wonder what this kind
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of effect -- whipd of effect, rather, this is going to have on the overall tone and tenor of this race. he seems to get a pass. he seems to be teflon, but is it changing the discourse of this election? >> there's no question. trump has set the tone and tenor of the republican presidential primary for many months, going back to when he read senator lindsey graham's cell phone number aloud during a campaign event. that is what you have seen throughout. you have seen people try to be like trump repeatedly. you've seen people try to out-trump trump. you even saw lindsey graham trying to outtrump trump where he took a bat to his cell phone. they all complain about it, but the reality is, he is dominating. however, he's dominating at 30%. that means there's 70% who don't feel that way about him and it is too soon to say how this is going to play out. >> jackie, youb asked an interesting question. you said, what does this all have to do with being president? the fact of the matter is -- i've covered a lot of presidential candidates -- typically when they say something that doesn't prove to
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be true, you shine a light on it and it becomes a big deal. that's not what's happening with donald trump. >> he gets a pass somehow? >> he does. and i don't mean we shouldn't be talking about it, of course we should be talking about it, i mean, why is he talking about this? why is he talking about this reporter in front of how many people that were at that rally? it speaks to a lack of depth. maybe in some other way or parts of his platform, if he has a platform, i don't know that he does. it really is this distraction and this ability he has to make this ability everything else but himself, which is weird, because it's donald trump. but he doesn't want to look like he's the one -- he doesn't look like he's the one who's wrong, so everyone else is wrong. >> maggie haberman and jackie kucinich, thank you so much. cybermonday or black friday. does online shopping deliver better deals than brick and mortar stores? if you paid too much for
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a critical new development in the war against isis. russian president vladimir putin
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declaring he is ready to cooperate with the u.s. and its allies to wipe out the terror group. he is warning, however, the alliance will end if another one of his war planes gets shot down by turkey. turkey's president, meanwhile, refusing to apologize for downing that plane. he says the russians owe him an apology for violating his nation's air space. an alleged terror plot broken up in germany. police arresting two suspects in berlin. the men are accused of planning a significant act against state security. german special forces moved in after conducting a search at a local islam center. authorities in belgium are reassessing the threat facing brussels. they've lowered the terror alert level from its highest level, four, to a three, suggesting the threat of an attack was no longer imminent. government officials there say the situation in brussels remains serious. they previously announced brussels would remain at the highest level until at least monday. president obama spent part of his thanksgiving calling u.s.
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service members to thank them for their service and wish them and their families a happy holiday. the president made ten calls, to each of the branches. he even sent a tweet offering his thanks. let's talk sports. why not? former packers quarterback brett favre brings the lambeau field to their feet one more time, but, well, their archrivals, the bears, spoiled the holiday party. coy wire has more in our bleacher report. how are you feeling today post-turkey? >> i rolled into work today. >> doing okay? >> good morning to you and john, the packers and bears had 192 meetings but never met on thanksgiving day. that added more of a special feel to this game. and at halftime, the packers honored brett favre, retiring his number four in the wall at lambeau field and it got even better. hall of famer bart star in the
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house came out to give favre some love. but cutler and his boys became the bad news bears and put green bay into a state of disbelief. chicago holds on to the 17-13 upset. now, things went from bad to worse for the dallas cowboys. they got gobbled like a turkey on thanksgiving day. first of all, the carolina panthers beat 'em like a drum and it looks like they lost quarterback tony romo again this time for the rest of the season. his shoulder gets planted into the turf by this sack. romo has already missed seven games after a similar injury earlier this season, but now those panthers' defense delivering big hits, snatching interceptions. luke keekly picks off two tony romo passes, back to back plays. row mow would throw two overall. panthers still undefeated. now, the gold state warriors, they look to extend their record for the best start in league history to 17-0 tonight against
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the suns. cnn sports anchor rachel nichols sat down with reigning mvp, seth curry. >> is there any spot on the floor where you feel like you could not make a shot from? >> not, really, obviously, i know my percentages, so i know where i'm kind of likely to make it. i thought, if i take this, i'm going to make it at half court there. i didn't pull the trigger, but that kind of confidence is at an all-time high. >> now, curry and company are holding nothing back. they say they're going to go for the nba record of 33 straight wins, dating back to last season. the warriors set that season 33 seasons ago. the lakers need 13 more to get that. >> i don't think steph curry will ever miss. >> ever. >> i believe they're favorite in all but two of their remaining games, guys, it's crazy.
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he loves to shop. struggling retailers want black friday to stay, but could it soon become a thing of the past? as online companies slash surprises, making it easier for lazy bones like us to shop from the comfort of our couch. correspondent alison kosik breaks it all down for us. happy black friday. >> happy black friday to you. you talk about cybermonday and black friday, it's not the powerhouse it used to be. look at last year for a reference point.
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a lot of people's sales surged on thanksgiving and you saw sales kind of slip off a bit from black friday. in fact, case in point, i went to go cover black friday last year. i went to a target on the upper west side. it was empty! we didn't even do the report, because there was nothing to report. >> wow, no story here. >> yeah, there was no story there. keep in mind, black friday is still king. look at sort of where it ranks. it's still second on the list in terms of sales of one of the top shopping days in terms of traffic, it's the third behind super saturday and the day after christmas. but, look, black friday has a lot of competition. black friday is turning into black monday. how many times have you gotten these e-mails about, half off, already, or 30% off, all month? there's a lot of competition for black friday. people are realizing, you know what, i don't have to wait until friday to get into the stores. i'm going to shop now. and the bonus to shopping early is you get the inventory. >> i've been saying that for a long time, thursday's the new friday, wednesday's the new
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tuesday. you're an impartial journalist, you're very, very fair, but i want to ask you to pick teams here. which is better, black friday or cybermonday? >> so it really depends on what you're looking for. black friday, if you're looking for electronics, you'll probably, you know, score better on black friday. but if you're looking for things like beauty, clothing, and shoes, you're better off doing cybermonday. there are a few pros and cons. you see them there up on the screen. some people like to get out there. it's your tradition. let's g out there for the hunt. >> makeup artist mitch has already said, he's going to head out into the throngs of the people today and be a part of that energy. i have a bit of an anxiety, i hate missing out on a deal. technology can help? >> yeah, there's a cool app called parabus. so when you shop online, it scans all your receipts. what happens with online
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shopping, prices end up changing so quickly. they change a lot faster than those brick and mortar stores. it's this app that kind of scans those receipts and see if the price goes down or if you miss a coupon code you thought you should have gotten, you will get your money back. it doesn't apply to all stores. it has about 18 to 20 stores, but includes bloomingdale's, walmart, some top-name stores. a couple of other places you can go to offers that that helps you keep track of any budget. and if you want to keep track of your lists, go to christmas gift list. >> i know how important this whole thing is to me. very, but how important is it for these stores? 10, 15 years ago, this was the whole thing. the whole ball game. >> here's the rub for these stores. they have to discount.
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we've become addicted to buying full price. and it kills them to discount, but they want to bring you in, anyway. and that's part of reason. you've been seeing these sales go on for a month and not just black friday. those discounts most likely will get deeper, but they want you to come in, go online, and they want you the buy. they need it. >> it's interesting, because i know a few years ago, we talked about the fact that people would still go into the stores, say, on this day, see what's out there, see what's available, and go and press buy online on monday. >> still happening! the competition is happening. sometimes, you're seeing a lot of these stores match other prices. so now that matching is really coming into play, because of that sort of going shopping, just with your eyes and not your pocketbook first. >> shop with your eyes. >> not me. i take out the cash. >> that's what you like to do? >> shopping with your eyes. we're following a whole lot of news this morning on this friday. let's get right to it. sal
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vladimir putin now saying he's ready to work with the u.s. on fighting isis. new details on russia's retaliation against turkey. >> turkey overreacted and there's a great danger. >> this relationship is deteriorating very rapidly. neither side is backing down. black friday protesting expected in chicago this morning. >> protesters do plan to come up michigan avenue. >> this is going to be a long, long, long battle. >> business as usual can't go on while our children are dying? >> i'm ready. got my fists up if somebody tries to steal something from me. >> an all-out battle at stores across the nation. >> we've been here since tuesday. >> are you ready for black friday madness? good morning. welcome to a very special edition of "cnn newsroom." john berman alongside me this morning. there is a new alliance on the war on isis. could be a game changer. russian president vladimir putin announcing he is ready to work
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closely with the united states and its western allies to wipe out the terrorists. but this sudden spirit of cooperation, it could be fragile. >> the russian leader furious with turkey for shooting down one of its war planes, calling it an act of betrayal. we are learning more this morning about the dramatic rescue of the russian co-pilot who ejected from that burning plane. let's get the latest from these developments from pentagon correspondent barbara starr. >> vladimir putin may be talking about cooperation, maybe even the concept of joining the coalition, but don't count on it just yet, according to u.s. officials. there are the political statements coming from leaders in various capitals. but on the ground, there is a very difficult military reality. u.s. officials now watching around the clock as the russians begin to unload components of the s-400 anti-air missile system that they say they are putting into syria. this could be the real game changer on the ground. this is a missile system that
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can reach out and shoot down aircraft, deep inside turki isi air space and in syrian air space. that is what causes the problems for the u.s. the u.s. officials, military officials tell me they will have to have some sort of understanding. if this missile system gets turned on, if it goes fully operational by the russians inside syria, they need to determine what it is going to mean for u.s. war planes flying in the coalition, leading the coalition, in air strikes in that region. so there is really a long way to go before there is going to be cooperation, a coalition with the russians, inside the coalition, not just yet, perhaps. john? >> and barbara, there's a really interesting twist this morning about the russian co-pilot who did survive the shoot down. >> absolutely. now both russian and iranian media are -- state media are reporting that the irans -- a very interesting iranian general
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commanded essentially the rescue mission, the head of the iranian r revolutionary guard corps, general qassem suleimani, a very powerful military figure in iran. the state media are reporting that he commanded, essentially, the rescue mission in that area of turkey. and also reports now that essentially the russians on the ground since the rescue mission have been able to basically control this area in northern syria, that they have essentially dealt, in their way, perhaps killing what they say are the turkmen rebels they believe were responsible in the first place for shooting the russian aircraft down. >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks so much. bringing in retired general, james spider marks, now the executive dean at the university
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of phoenix, and garvin stein ross. color me skeptical here. vladimir putin says, sure, he's open to cooperating with the united states. does he really mean it? >> well, i would take that at a significant arm's length. but it is an opening. this is the first time we've really heard this. and what i think he's really saying is, look, i want to be a part of this and if not a part of it, i'll do what i want to do, which he's already demonstrated that that's a behavior that they're willing to take on. but the key thing is, if it were to be a cooperative type of an engagement, there are a lot of details that have to take place when you're trying to deconflict air space or trying to exchange target packages. we're not going to exchange intelligence. we might exchange targetable intelligence, actionable intelligence, but that's what we call terror line. we can't give them the raw stuff. but what that takes, that would take some united stateses or some other body that russia would be able to sign up to, in
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order to be the lead on that. the problem on that is in the interim, until that gets established, what is russia going to do relative to what the coalition is already doing? and we've already seen the challenges of that. we've dot turkey shooting down a russian aircraft. >> if you do it the way i want, the way i say, i will let you cooperate with me the way i tell you to, david. that is that essentially what vladimir putin saying? >> yeah, i think that's essentially what he's saying. and he's very clear that it's going to be done on his terms. he's very much known for brinksmanship, so is erdowan. but he's made very clear that he wants things done his way. it's not necessarily rational. it doesn't necessarily make him evil, but that's the cooperation he officers. >> the future of assad, daveed,
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has come up. people say at the end of this, assad has got to go. now you have the french foreign minister. you have the french speaking in language that's getting a little bit confusing. they say there needs to be a ground force here. wherever russia talks about that, they mean a syrian ground force. now france seems to have opened the door at least a little bit to that. >> right, the question of what to be done with assad is one of the questions that has bedeviled the coalition. that's also one of the contributing factors to this, a very complex conflict. the fact that russia and turkey, even though they're both anti-isil, are also on different sides of the war with respect to assad. the thinking with respect to assad going that assad is the root cause of the conflict. so you can't actually solve the problem of syria, the problem of isil's rise, without solving for ass assad, but he gets very complex when you get to the question of, what happens after assad falls? a lot of people fear that the
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best-case scenario would be the fall of kabul after the communist regime collapsed there. that it would descend into an arky, and the religious minorities, the coastal areas that have been protected by assad would then be victimized. so if so, while assad is, everyone can agree is a brutal dictator, it doesn't mean toppling him will solve the conflict or make things better. >> spider, daveed brought up sbegs comparison when talking about turkey and russia. you have two schoolyard bullies used to getting their way, now engaged in a fight with each other, each up willing to say they're sorry. >> it's a considerable challenge, primarily because when he does what he has done, he brings in the rest of nato powers. clearly, the united states is a lead position in this. so it's a much larger concern
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that we have. putin, by the way, he's not an international praia, but we do understand his behavior. he is not irrational. this is a very rational -- this is a power politics type of a leader. and russia, historically, going back centuries, russia benefits when there's turmoil on its near abroad. when it's on its borders and peoples are upside down and naked and having a big time, he benefits from this. so, he has created this concern along his border and it works exactly to his benefit. so he now sits back and says, i want to be a part of this game, i want to contribute, and we listen to this. we dialogue with him. this works exactly to his benefit. >> and putin and erdowan are not de-escalating like you're supposed to. they're not letting the tensions ease normally that countries do in a situation like this. to a certain extent, they're making it worse. how do they get out of this? some kind of a face to face
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meeting during these climate talks. is that even possible? >> that's a good question. at the end of the day, right now, they're not in danger of coming to much more in the way of military blows. russia has been talking about imposing its own set of sanctions on turkey and not doing business with them. i'm not sure that they are going to back down. i'm not sure that either of them needs to back down. because, look, the situation in syria overall, has been one of escalation. one of escalation on the anti-assad side, one of escalate on the prof pro-assad side, and it's part and parcel of that trend from escalation to de-escalation. i don't know the answer, but if i'm placing my money, it's that they don't de-escalate. >> spider, one question off this a little bit. one of the possibilities with these attackers in paris right now, maybe they fled to belgium. maybe they're headed back to syria. spider, if any of these guys
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salah abdeslam, for instance, does go back to syria, does that make him harder to spot, or is that a place where the coalition could carry out some successful operations? >> he's already hard to spot. he's the most wanted man in europe, but he could be in damascus right now or rocca. i doubt he's there. it would be very hard to find, to find him in syria. all that indicates is the much broader challenge that we have. and you have this incredibly conventional isis-led power that has increased its ability to expand its influence. and at the same time, it has a really precise special ops capability, if you will, enabled to do operations like we saw in paris. that's the concern that we have moving forward, is being able to get our arms around all of that. so what's the best path forward? i would suggest at this point, the opportunity, the open door to work and try to cooperate with russia is a good deal.
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and we should try to take that, not naively, from a position of strength, but we need to be able to move in that direction. >> general spider marks, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks, john. a big development in mali. special forces there arresting two men, as alleged accomplices in the hotel terror attack in the country's capital. the suspects, both from mali, were found thanks to a cell phone left behind at the scene. two attackers were killed during the siege last friday at the radisson blu hotel that killed 20, including an american. 170 hostages were freed after a standoff that lasted more than seven hours. three islamic militant groups have claimed responsibility. more breaking news, isis now claiming responsibility for a deadly attack on a shiite mosque in northern bangladesh. several gunman opened fire. at least 20 worshippers were in the mosque for prayers when the incident unfolded. this is the second attack in a month on the country's small shia population. back here at home, breaking
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news out of chicago. police have made an arrest in connection with the murder of that 9-year-old in an alley. also in chicago, protesters today plan a march on this black friday to a popular shopping district, looking to bring attention to the video that was released this week showing a white officer gunning down al black teenager. ryan young is live for us on a very rainy chicago morning with all the developments. >> reporter: good morning to you. i can tell they've made an arrest in the tyshawn lee case. this is a case that rocked chicago. when you think about it, a 9-year-old lure spod into an al and shot execution style. chicago police have been working the streets to find out whoever did this. we learned about the arrests the last hour. it's news that a lot of people in chicago wanted to hear, because this, of course, is a violent gang war going on in chicago. and this young man is one of the casualty. a lot of people are saying, enough is enough with this violence, especially when you look at a 9-year-old who was killed in an alley.
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moving right to the next part. we know this is black friday. a lot of people talking about shopping. we know religious leaders plan to march up michigan avenue and stop some of the black friday sale sales. >> and sit down in the street and block the street on michigan avenue, with civil disobedience, peacefully, and say, you know what? business as usual can't go on while our children are dying. >> reporter: we know there's a lot of passion here in chicago right now after the video was released of laquan mcdonald being shot 16 times. a lot of those shots happening while he was on the ground. people in chicago want to know why it took so long for them to see this video. preparation for this day has been going on for quite some time. we know the marchers have been out for several days. last night was quiet, but we know people were planning for black friday. that will happen. people will be looking to see what happens today during this protest that will happen here on
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mugge avenue. guys? >> ryan young for us in chicago, that protest planned for 11:00 a.m. in chicago. thanks, ryan. as ryan was saying, today is black friday shopping. people are doing it, out already. many people started last night, in fact, going bargain hunting this stores that would not close for any reason. cnn's christiristina alesci is mason's in new york's times square. >> reporter: the store did not shut down, macy's opened its doors at 6:00 p.m. last night and has remained open. you can see the crowds behind me. people are shopping. we talked to some people outside, in line, at stores like h&m since 2:00 a.m. now they're coming in, they're filing into stores. and this is not going to stop. we'll so this all day long. i know ewe guys were talking about the death of brick and mortar spending, but it looks like people are coming up the tradition in harold's square, at least, in new york city new york city. so far, though, there's a lot of
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private security guards making sure that things remain fairly orderly. not so much the case in some other parts of the country. take a listen. >> reporter: overnight, an all-out battle at stores across the nation. just hours into the brutal chase for bargains -- >> i got my fist up if somebody tries to steal something from me. >> reporter: in louisville, kentucky, black friday madness. two men punching and tearing at each other's t-shirt inside a major city mall. tempers flared at this walmart in el paso. holiday shoppers appeared to fight over flat screen tvs, even taking on store security. >> the yearly stampede spilling into front doors, a welcome sight for retailers.
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hoping to cash in on the holiday frenzy. sales expected to reach $80 billion in the u.s. >> whoo? we made it! >> reporter: the average american spendi ining close to throughout the holiday weekend, with some brick and mortar stores handing out tickets to people in line for the hottest holiday items. >> we're able to ticket numbers one through whatever number we have. >> reporter: we've been here since tuesday night. >> all in an effort to nab great deals like this 50-inch flat screen tv at best buy, marked down nearly 75% off. >> i think it's exciting, if it's something you want and it's worth it, why not go and get it? >> reporter: you know, there's a lot of craziness in retailers across the uncan, but to put some context on this, this is a pretty important day for the american economy. consumer spending accounts for 70% of the gross domestic product in this country, and a
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critical day for retailers that haven't seen the kind of consumer spending they'd like to see. so these next couple of weeks could make or break their years. michaela? >> critical and important to these retailers, maybe not worth getting into fisticuffs about for a flat screen tv. we'll check back in with you a little bit later on this black friday. overseas, francis is wrapping up an historic three-day trip to kenya. he is on his way to uganda. during his video, he addressed a number of issues from animal poaching and climate change to poverty and the lack of basic services, like clean drinking water. robin has been covering the pope's african trip and joins us live from nairobi this morning, or today, i guess it is now. hi, robin. >> hi, there. yes, it's this afternoon here in nairobi, kenya, as you said. the pope is taking off shortly. he's at the airport in his
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popemobile. he has spent the last few days driving around in a four-day hyundai, an incredibly humble vehicle. has lots of kenyans talking about the fact he doesn't drive fancy armored limousine or range rovers like some of the politicians in africa or the rest of the world. that was his message today, austerity and a message against corruption. he says corruption is sweet like sugar, but if you have too much, your country can become diabetic. he did go on, michaela, to say that there is also corruption within the vatican. and that is what he is trying to root out. he's heading to kampala, uganda, today, where he will spend one night -- sorry, two nights -- and on monday, he is headed the to the central african republic. that will be the most dangerous portion of his trip. it look like that trip might be canceled for a while, but it looks like it's back on at the moment. united nations have sent extra
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forces from the united nations base in the ivory coast to help keep the pope safe. it was an incredible video. he visited a slum very early this morning, talking to a number of people there and he said it was a very fulfilling time, indeed. lots of good messages coming from this pontiff. michaela? >> i'll take it. thanks so much. we have some developing blimp news this morning. a blimp flying over traffic for the macy's thanksgiving day parade ran into some trouble, apparently. the pilot hit strong winds and low fuel forced to it make an emergency landing in a school baseball field in long island. people on the ground apparently helped out, which is what you do when a blimp lands on your baseball field. you help out. it is the american thing to do. >> oh, yeah, when you see the blimp kind of deflate like that -- >> no one was hurt. moving right along, obviously, we're watching the situation in chicago. racial tensions still simmering there, with demands for a federal investigation of a
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chicago demonstrators planning a major black friday protest this morning over the shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. a white officer fired 16 rounds at mcdonald -- into him, essentially. he was brandishing a knife, acting erratically, according to police reports. the officer's attorney believes he can successfully defend his client. the question is how. for that, we turn to a couple of legal experts we happen to have on set. i have joey jackson and danny cevallos. two defense attorneys. you guys are the guys to ask about this. this is quite a situation. just to set the stage, i want to play the sound from the officer's attorney, dan herbert, of what he says his strategy is going to be. take a listen. >> everyone is looking for something on the video that would show mr. mcdonald charging at my client or raising his knife and moving in his direction and it doesn't not necessarily show that. but that does not mean that my
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client's actions were criminal. >> he goes on to say that he's going to use science to prove that it's not uncommon to -- for victims to be shot in the back, in a situation like this. i don't know how that's defensible. 16 times into somebody that has already fallen to the ground, 14 more times after they fall to the ground. let's talk about this. how do you, as a defense attorney, justify this shooting? >> i've been thinking about this, and this is the way i would defend this case. a couple of different attacks. number one, training. show that these officers are trained. that virtually anything can be a threat. there are even studies out there that you can find that suggest that even a prone suspect, someone lying on their stomach, could be concealing a weapon. and that goes to the heart of this issue, that with police officers, we train them, at any moment in time, someone is potentially a threat. no matter where they're laying, standing, moving. even a furtive moment, i see
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that line in police reports all the time, a furtive movement towards the waistband. any of those articulated facts can give rise to reasonable suspicion, all the way up to probable cause. >> even if the other five officers on scene didn't feel it appropriate? >> michaela, i said i would come up with a defense, i didn't say it would be an airtight one. i'm just taking us down the path i suspect they'll go. they will likely site those studies and other studies that say a study can fake compliance. and other studies will show, with even after being shot a couple of times, a suspect can still get up. listen, this is what i think they will put out as a defense. i don't though that it will be successful. >> if the judge permits them to do that, because facts and cases are about that those particular foo facts. and we can cite studies all day, all year, but we have to make it relevant to this. this the problem that he has here, we know what the problems are. do you believe, michaela, your lying eyes?
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the fact is that the jury is going to have to see and evaluate that. so you as a defense attorney will have to place something in your client's mind, such that he would be such an imminent fear for his life. that becomes very problematic. >> let me ask you about this point. i know i asked it of you, but it seems incontrovertible the fact that there were other officers on scene. he also arrived quickly, jumped out of his car and started firing quickly. there were other officers on scene who didn't feel the need -- >> to open fire. >> that is problematic. >> it is, but here's how the will defense will address that. he's saying, look at the perspective of my client. everybody on that scene has a vantage point of their own. everybody on that scene has a certain and different level of threat. in the event that you're closer to the person, which his attorney is arguing, his threat assessment is going to be different than someone who is
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away. ugh have eight, nine, ten officers. were that, in your perspective, were they, in your point of view, acting unreasonably because they didn't fire? >> let's talk about this officer for a second. he joined the chicago pd in 2001, 14-year career, in that time, had at least 18 citizen complaints against him ranging from excessive force to the use of racial slurs. never been disciplined, wn that. can that be presented in court and can that be problematic? >> i think what this shows, there are all kinds of -- when it comes to police officers, they get complaints lodged against them fairly often. the critical fact to me, if none of them were founded, as a defense attorney, i would strongly argue for the inadmissibility. especially in the case where it's unfounded, police officers are open to criticism by the public and they frequently are. does that mean there's potentially something there? yes, but we off all kinds of
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evidence that ultimately is inadmissible at trial. >> can training be brought into this? >> the issue will be -- experts will differ whether was this in his training or did he act outside the training. these are prior bad acts and i count at least ten of them that go to the issue of use of force. what's going to happen is, from a prosecutor's perspective, you want them in, not to show propensity, that he has a propensity for violence, it would be inadmissibility, but to show motive, intent, common plan and scheme, so you want them in. the issue becomes, are they overly prejudicial? because cases have to be about what you did now, not what you did yesterday, the day before, the day before that. >> we certainly know the defense attorney has his challenges set out for him. thanks so much for slicing through with us. we appreciate it, joey and danny. >> michaela, thanks so much. a dangerous competition, isis versus al qaeda. why this might be one of the most concerning things being
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a deadly terrorist competition being waged all over the world right now. two weeks ago, the attacks in paris that left 130 people dead. isis claims responsibility. last week, the attacks in mali at the radisson hotel. al qaeda claims responsibility. 20 killed there. what's going on here? clinton watts is a writer for foreign affairs and a former fbi special agent who's served on a joint terrorism task force. he recently wrote an article, breaking down the groups called isis and al qaeda, race to the bottom. and this is a race right now. these groups are watching each other trying to outdo each other. >> terrorism in the modern day is about notoriety. and notoriety bringing recruits and it brings money. and they have to go against each other and pace against each other now, or otherwise they're going to get left behind. the other thing is, this is really ego driven. the isis recruits we see today, a lot of them attracted by social media. they want to get their name out there, and they play on that
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narcissism of these recruits. >> do you suspect that these al qaeda groups in africa were sitting there watching what isis did in paris and said, hey, we got to get in this game? >> yeah, i think there's that component of it, which is the competition part. the other thing we shouldn't overlook, they know a lot of counterterrorism pressure will come down after a paris attack. if you have a plot in the pipeline, you have two choices. either go to ground and hide out or if you've got a good plot underway, go ahead and accelerate and try to get it launched, which is what you would prefer to do. >> let's address each of those separately. first, notoriety or infamy is probably a better word in this case. how important is it for these terror groups to stage these horrific attacks in terms of keeping their ranks full? >> it is what inspires these folks, particularly online and in the ranks. when you look at al qaeda during their decline last decade, a lot of it came because they weren't just having success anymore. our counterterrorism efforts were really advancing. they see isis and they see isis having success and success breeds success.
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every time they watch them taking towns in iraq or doing an attack in paris, it motivates their ranks. >> so isis, one of the things that the white house said, the president said that he was criticized for was that they've contained isis on the battlefield in iraq and syria. let's not get into that debate really for a moment there. but could you make the case that isis decided it needed to stage attacks outside of that area, around the world, because they were suffering a little bit in iraq and syria? >> absolutely. isis has been losing ground in iraq and syria this year. really, the first year since they invaded mosumosul. so when you're a terror group and you're being constrained on the ground, you start looking for, what is effective and lower cost and really hits my enemy. and you start hitting soft targets in the rear of your enemy. we see the paris attacks, hitting a russian airliner and that points to the fact that containment in iraq and syria isn't going to stop the
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violence. >> who is winning the recruitment war right now between isis and al qaeda? >> isis is clearly win. they're hands down, heads and tails above. i think any action you see by al qaeda is in response to watching what isis advances are doing. their best article, al qaeda's best arm in syria, is now taking the brunt, actually, of the russians, as opposed to isis. you know, the russians have been pretty light on isis so far. so isis is overwhelmingly out in front, and all of the young people who are out there want to be isis. al qaeda is like your dad's rock band when you were a kid growing up. for these young militants, al qaeda is old news. isis is where you want to be. >> why don't they just join up? why don't they just join forces? if you're in the united states, you think, they look like they want basically the same thing. why, don't they just band together? >> it's largely about egoes.
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those that are in al qaeda are largely that followed bin laden, those are old dogs. and the isis folks are motivated by al zarqawi's lead. >> so are there guys like you can exploit this rift? when you're fighting terror, can you use the rift within the terrorists? >> absolutely. and you see this a lot. the rgtarguments going back and forth online, you see groups today in somalia killing each other, force on force. we saw that in syria two years back. what i think we're concerned about looking forward, we keep talking about one big al qaeda or one big isis. but the most dangerous situation is 15 groups that are lightly connected to one or both groups that are all acting on their own as aggressively as they can. >> is al qaeda still a direct threat to u.s. interests? >> it is. but they've really ratcheted down their rhetoric and focused on the u.s., i think because they're trying to build the hearts and minds approach in
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syria. i'm wondering if that will change, you know, post this paris attack. >> clinton watts, pretty sobering thoughts. thanks so much. all right, ben carson reportedly making a surprise trip to the middle east to see the syrian refugee crisis for himself firsthand. could this be a crash course on foreign policy that some say he needs? we'll discuss that, ahead. t-mobile has a deal that blows away black friday. get a 4g lte tablet on us, when you get a data plan for no money down,
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a surprise today for republican presidential candidate ben carson. he is on the road. not here in the united states, not in iowa, not new hampshire. he's going to jordan. he is on the road to jordan today to meet with syrian refugees. this is according to "the new york times." this does come over the growing debate over the safety of accepting refugees into the united states and it does come with people questioning ben carson's national security credentials, especially when it could be a key issue in this race. here to discuss, times political reporter zeke miller and senior politics editor for the daily beast, jackie kucinich.
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i did not know that ben carson was on the way to jordan. i woke up and saw "the new york times" and ben carson's in the air on his way to jordan. >> this was sort of a surprise move. it's really a reflection of him understanding that voters do not trust him right now on foreign policy. he needs to send them a sure signal that he is going to learn, that he is somebody that could be command in chief, the most important role for the president of the united states and certainly has taken on new importance after the paris attacks of the last couple of weeks. this is something that she has to show. and, you know, given the larger debate we've been having over syrian refugees in the last couple of months, he needs to sort of show, you know, his ability to lead on that issue. >> well, timing is key, too, jackie, because i know we've seen some polls that show since the paris attack, his numbers have slid significantly from 28 to 18. now, he himself, has said that he's really on a learning curve. you have to give him props for going there, to see this firsthand. but, you know, one might also
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say, is the timing of this also a little too late? shouldn't he be more well versed on these issues prior to this? >> yeah, he is sort of taking a crash course in foreign policy, at a time when it couldn't be more important to really know something about what's going on in the middle east, what's going on with these refugees. and we saw him make some very public errors, when it comes to syria, when it comes to, you know, a whole host of things that are going on in the world. so, you know, one trip does not a foreign policy record make. >> fair point. >> however, it is, you know, it does show that he is curious. and he does want to learn and that, you know, this is a step in the right direction for ben carson, certainly. >> can we put up those iowa poll numbers again. you see ben carson dropping ten points in iowa over the past month since the paris terrorist attacks. but you see donald trump, who has no more national security experience than ben carson, trump has built his lead over
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the last few weeks since the issues in paris happened. and i wonder why you think that is. he doesn't have experience on foreign policy, but he does have clarity in where he stands on some of these issues. >> that seems to be one of the things, after the paris attacks, we all knew this was going to get more of a foreign policy focused election, but nobody quite anticipated this reaction, this response in the polls. it seems is where voters are is that ben carson doesn't sound tough. donald trump sounds tough. that makes him more likely, somebody who can be better equipped to handle the job. and, you know, that sort of follows where we've been all cycle. it's not necessarily what you say, it's how you say it. it's the same way on domestic policies. it's about how you say it, it's about style, and the question will be, as we get closer to voting, whether or not we get back to substance and the real issues. >> jackie, maybe it's confidence, not necessarily competence. the fact is, these are outsiders, right? both of these two are not
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seasoned, long-term politicians, yet, there is division on how people see donald trump's foreign policy lined up against ben carson's. >> absolutely. i mean, there's a difference between how they see donald trump and jeb bush. jeb bush is a perfect example of someone who has a long record of governing. and yet people aren't seeing him to be this, you know, kind of robust leader that he presents himself to be. so zeke is absolutely right. this is much more style over substance, but it is, at this point, it's important to note, a lot of iowans don't make their decisions until a month outside of the caucuses. and it gets -- as you get closer, the more people start making their decisions. it is crunch time, absolutely. and we're going to see -- i think we're going to see these polls start to tighten a little bit as we get closer and closer to those february caucuses. >> you talk about getting closer and closer to iowa, we're getting closer and closer to the cnn debate in two weeks in las vegas! >> did you know how he yelled?
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>> no, i'm just that excited. it's a foreign policy debate in las vegas. there's a lot on the line here. zeke, i wonder who you think else might benefit from this renewed focus on foreign policy in the republican field? >> certainly, you know, people who demonstrated the ability ton foreign policy, senator marco rubio, somebody who's staked out very vocal positions. >> we can play this. he came up with an ad. his farris campaign ad on tv, based on what happened on paris. do we have that? can we play that for you? >> this is a civilizational struggle, between the values of freedom and liberty and radical islam terror. what happened in paris could happen here. there is no middle ground. these aren't disgruntled or disempowered people. these are radical terrorists who want to kill us, because we let women drive. because we let girls do go to school. i'm marco rubio, approve this message, because there can be no arrangement or negotiation. either they win or we do.
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>> can he make that his message? >> that's certainly something he's trying to do. he has to get over the youth problem there. and that's him making a direct run at the barack obama comparisons, taking that tough foreign policy plan. but this can also help jeb bush, chris christie, even ted cruz, who's taken a fairly strong foreign policy position. >> jackie, final thought? >> i agree with zeke. marco rubio is probably going to be under the most intense spotlight going into this debate. and we'll certainly be watching. >> all right. >> i hope we will all be watching. right here on cnn. it's very exciting. it's two weeks and it's really important with everything going on. >> it's very, very important. >> great to have you here with us. >> you have black friday frenzy. >> they have to get out shopping. we have to let them go. they have an appointment at the stores. black friday frenzy is here. the day where there are no small deals, there are only big deals. will this be the day that retailers have been hoping for all year?
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will this be the day when more of this god-awful imagery happens? we'll talk with the ceo of macy's, next. attention americans eligible for medicare.
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this was the scene at macy's here in new york city last night. shoppers rushed through the doors to score the biggest black friday deals. joining us live is macy' ceo terry. and you and i do this every friday, black friday. really a pleasure to see you. you are looking bright and ready. how are things shaping up at the flag ship store. >> >> first of all glad to hear i still look bright. i got here at 6:00 last night. i'm a little weary at the moment and i've been to a few of our locations but things is good. a phenomenal crowd here last night at this store. we estimate about 15,000 people were outside the doors ready to come in when we opened at 6:00 and i was here. it was nice to see consumers out
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again ready to shop. and it was a good night for the company. i'm happy to report. >> we're been hearing from analysts saying maybe black friday isn't what it used to be. is it still an important part of your strategy as a company? >> it definitely is. when you look at the opening from last night to 6:00 that 24 hour period will be the single largest volume day in our company. and i think what you are seeing is that a consumer is doing the research, thinking about it, looking online. many are shopping online. we had very good online business too for the last two days. but then most of them are still coming into the store to make their purchases, particularly in the big holiday ramp ups last like last night. >> there is something about getting out and pursuing a deal in the stores. but we've been talking a lot
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about sign mondcyber monday as little brother. but it's all grown up now. does it seem to you that that is going to be more of the future for macy's? this online component? >> well it is very very important us to. again, we're so strong, so powerful with our online business. but the reality is that it is still, in america, everything that we sell in our stores is -- 90% of that is not just at macy's but across the country, including amazon by the way, 90% of everything we sell is still in bricks and mortar. even with all the numbers and online placed together, 90% is still sold in bricks and mortar. if that moves to 88% or 87% over time, which it will i do believe. that will happen. but the reality is bricks and medical reporterer sti mortar are going to be a
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critical component. >> i look at the store behind you all decorated for the season. which is another tradition. and this year, more so than ever given the heightened state of security, given the worldwide travel alert, given the fact that new york city police pulled out all the stops to make sure people were safe, it must feel like a success to you. >> it does indeed. and of course we're all thinking about that. and starting with the balloon inflation night which is a new york tradition on wednesday night. watching the balloons being inflated we had a million people circulating around to see the balloons being inflated. i was so happy to see people come out. put that you are fears aside and come out and to have this parade to your point be so successful. i don't love warm weather this time of year frankly.
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i would rather sell a lot of coats and boots you know. but having said that. a great time for warm weather is on thanksgiving day for the parade and everybody loved it. and we had a huge turnout and i think the largest television audience we've ever had. very very proud of my team, who executed a beautiful parade. and then went back home for thanksgiving dinner as we all did. and of the volunteers came back to work. it's all good. >> quite a difference from last we're's weather. i want to end on one thing. you guys famously dumped trump. trump yesterday spent quite a bit of time tweeting his distaste for macy's yesterday. i'm curious what kind of reaction that elicits in you and how you feel seeing him atop the polls in the presidential race on the republican side? >> well i congratulate him for being on top of the polls i'm
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extremely disappointed in him as a person in terms of how he's responded but he's someone people have responded to, so you have to give him credit for that. >> we appreciate your joining us here on "newsroom." >> thanks very much. we're following a lot of news so let's get right to it. >> vladimir putin now saying he's ready to work with the u.s. on fighting isis. >> new details on the retaliation against turkey. >> turkey over reacted -- >> this relationship is deteriorating rapidly. neither side is backing down. >> black friday protesting expected in chicago this morning. >> they plan to come up michigan avenue. >> this is going to be a long, long battle. >> business as usual can't go on while our children are dying. >> it is going to be game on in about five minutes. >> all out battle in stores across the nation. >> i'm ready.
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good morning. we hope your turkey coma isn't too bad. welcome to a special edition of cnn "newsroom." friday november 27th. 8:00 in the east. john berman is by my side. slowly and surely the world is rising and uniting against isis. putin saying russia will cooperate but it comes with a complication. >> the russian leader is furious with turkey. this morning turkey's president is responding telling russia not to, quote, play with fire. let's bring in barbara starr, good morning. >> good morning. political statements about joining the coalition in terms of cooperation but the military reality on the ground, especially for u.s. pilots
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flying over syria may be very different. the russians are now showing the world pictures of the s 400 antiair missile system they say they are moving into the syria. it can reach out all the way into the turkish air space and a cross a good deal of syria. if they make this system operational, they control the air space. and that puts us pilots in the position of having to make some decisions. u.s. military sources tell me they are looking at all of this and trying to figure out what recommendations, what the next u.s. military steps may have to be. if they are still going to be able to fly missions. if they are still going to be able to go on their attacks against isis in syria. if this missile system is up and running and poses an air threat, there may be some changes. the u.s. war planes may have to fly with jamming aircraft to try and in spite of the system. a lot of military details to be
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worked out. >> there is a really interesting development this morning. follow the bouncing ball. turkey shoots down russian war plane over syria. but who rescues one of the co-pilots? >> well, according to russian and iranian media, a very famous iranian general, the head of the iran revolutionary guard corps. someone the u.s. watches his whereabouts pretty closely when they can. he apparently according to state media ran the mission to rescue the russian pilot. there were other fighters on the ground. but sewe suleimanny. whether it was known he was on the ground and whether he really did this from inside syria, still we do not know. but it is a pretty interesting statement. it puts another player in the mix. it shows iran's influence in
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this very complicated picture. >> so complicated. so many countries now involved. barbara star. thanks so much. >> let's get some context and add analysis. cedric lleyton. good to have you again. try and help us understand all of this. we know hollande of france met with putin. putin says he's ready for this coalition. he's ready to join. yet we know his motivations with respect to assad differ directly with obama and hollande. how is that going to work? there is not consensus on how assad should be dealt with? >> well that is exactly right michaela and you know when you look at this this is probably one of the most complex international relations issues that we've dealt with in a long time. and when you see what president hollande of france is trying to do, he was trying to force this coalition of hopefully
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like-minded countries, both of which had been attacked by isis. in the case of the russians the airplane over the sinai and in the french attacks on paris. and you have a situation where on the surface it would be the perfect coalition of the willing. but the problem you run into is that the russians are maintaining their desire to protect assad, to protect the syrian regime, to hold on to that. even the last vestige of power of that regime and to make sure that they can do so with all of the means at their disposal. and that is why you see that air defense system coming into syria right now. >> so in terms of putin, what is he actually after? what is he -- can he be counted on not to go rogue and to sort of go off on a separate mission here? >> no i don't think so. i think he is going to absolutely do what he wants to do. if his goals even temporarily coincide with u.s. goals then
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everything will be fine. the problem that you have is that temporary coincide is not going to be very long lasting. and when you have a situation like this michaela, you are going the very quickly find that the russians are going to be at cross-purposes to our coalition efforts against isis in syria and even possibly in iraq. so what you are seeing is putin is going to expand his power base in syria and in iraq. and when you have that, you are going to run into a situation where u.s. efforts are going to be stymied. and it is going to really complicate the issue not only of what happens with isis but also what happens with syria's future. so russia is basically putting itself into the cat bird seat. and they want to stay there. >> meanwhile turkey in all this largely being viewed as having overreacted. essentially shooting themselves in the foot. we know that russia holds a lot
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of the purse strings for turkey. what does this mean in terms of potential sanctions and economic repercussions that could befall them potentially? >> well it could be very significant. russian tourists have been told not to go to turkey. that is a significant source of foreign exchange and economic vibrancy for the economy. and turkey imports 60% of its natural gas and also has a lot of pipeline projects with the russians. one a major one. with all of that possibly being stopped. plus the other thing is turkish investment in russia is also being in essence put in the icebox. and there is a lot of construction work turkish firms do in russia. with all of that being put on hold, the turks really are in the process of losing a significant source of revenue.
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and they may very well find themselves, you know, in economic dire straits because their connection to russia is basically being cut right after this incident. >> one thing also being cut. russia announcing it is suspending military links with turkey. russia also has antiaircraft missile system in syria. all of this. no communication what's going on in the air. military presence ramped up. how likely is another shoot down? >> very likely. and especially with the s 400 system in syria at this point. not only a risk of another turkish aircraft being shot down but also the risk of a another coalition aircraft being shot down. this is a very dangerous moment. and with that system being deployed it is a lot harder for u.s. forces, coalition forces to actually put in their defensive mechanisms and use their electronic countermeasures against these types of weapons systems.
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so it is a much more dangerous place all of a sudden because of the turkish action. >> you said last hour the british prime minister david cameron making the case for joining the air campaign is looking likely. what kind of difference is that going to make on the ground having them involved? >> it is a good morale boost. and certainly the british forces provide extensive combat capabilities as well as extensive intelligence capabilities. they are excellent in those areas. so that can be a big help. but it may not be enough to really go around what the russians are putting in place in syria. the russians are taking advantage of this and even really british help is not going to make a difference in that specific regard. great for morale but otherwise i don't think it will make that much difference against what the russians are doing. >> thanks for joining us today. two suspects under arrest in mali in connection with the attack on a luxury hotel that
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left 20 dead. the men, both from mali were found through a cell phone left on the scene. commanders stormed the hotel, killing two attackers, freeing well over 150 hostages. three islamic groups have now claimed responsibility. >> isis claiming responsibility for a deadly attack on a shiite mosque in bangladesh. one was killed at least. three others were injured. several gunmen opened fire. at least twenty people were inside the mosque when the incident unfolded. the second attack in a month on the country's shia population. >> breaking news out of chicago arrest in connection with the murder of a nine-year-old boy. this as protesters plan to march this friday. bringing attention to a video showing a the white officer gunning down a black teenager.
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>> good morning, john. the story about the nine-year-old is very difficult to cover. to give you the details, an arrest has been made. chicago police working on it for about a month now to try to find the killer of this young man who was lured into an alley and shot several times. there is a gang war and they believe he is the latest casualty in this. a lot of people are reacting to it because they were very upset that a 9-year-old could find his way into the cross hairs of that killer. now they have made an arrest. all this going on on black friday. and there will be marching up michigan avenue to show their displeasure for what happened to laquan mcdonald. the video shows him being shot 16 times by a chicago police
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officer. a lot in this community are calling for a change, including religious leaders. >> and sit down in the street and block the street on michigan avenue, with civil disobedience, peacefully. and say do you know what? business as usual can go on while our children are dying. >> michigan avenue is known around the world. in fact we saw tourists here early yesterday morning. but people here say there is a tale of two cities. the nice side and another side cries and hurting and wants attention. and those two sides may merge this afternoon. >> we often here that about chicago and may see it play out today. ryan stay with us and we'll watch with you. some people protesting on this black friday. others focusing on shopping. we understand crowds are gathering at stores and malls coast to coast opening dark and early for shoppers looking for
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those big deals. retailers looking for a strong weekend. christina is in the thick of it in new york's herald square. the frenzy is on. >> reporter: it is on. in fact i just spoke to the ceo of macy's. he said about 1500 people were here last night when the store opened its doors and it was a constant stream for at least an hour. and this is a very good sign for retailers that have been faced with consumer spending and this is really a make or break time for them. and right now things are a little bit orderly. not as craze as they were perhaps earlier in the day. but not the case in the rest of the country. take a listen. overnight an all out battle at stores across the nation. just hours into the brutal chase
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for bargains. >> -- in case somebody tries to steal something from me. >> in louisville kentucky, black friday madness. two men punching and tearing at each other's tee shirt inside a major city mall. tempers flared at this walmart in el paso. holiday shoppers appear to fight over flat screen tvs, even taking on store security. the yearly stampede spilling into the front doors. a welcome sight for retailers. hoping to cash in on the holiday frenzy. sales expected to reach 80 billion dollars in the u.s. and the average american spending close to $400 throughout holiday weekend. with some brick and mortar stores now handing out a select number of tickets to people in line for the hottest items. we're able to ticket numbers one
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okay. you probably saw this story on social media. quite an ending. pat the la bell's sweet potato pies after this youtube video of a man enjoying one of them went insanely viral. >> ooh it's so pretty. look at that. umm, on my own [ singing ] why did it end this way? >> e became an overnight sensation? and there was a lot of fall out. people are saying her pies sold out because of this man. not -- guess what? he got to spend thanksgiving with the one the only patti labelle at her philadelpa home. and he documented it all on facebook. >>. ♪ i never know until then
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in chicago demonstrators planned a big protest over the sthooting death of laquan mcdonald, a black teenager killed by a white police officer some 14 months ago. this comes at community leaders call for a federal investigation into the chicago police department. here is cnn political commenter mark hill and former detector malone. over the last few nights since the video came out we've seen small groups. no more than a hundred or two hundred any one time in chicago.
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but community leaders have called for a big protest today. and not just any day. this is to get in the way really of shopping to. get in the way of commerce. as father phleger said, how can you make money when people are dying? >> that is exactly right. in order to stop this crises -- and it is a crisis -- we need everyone involved. all corporations involved. and unfortunately many don't have feelings like nation states, they have interests. and in this case the interests are money making. so what the goal is, is to redistribute the pain so it is not just black families and black teens feeling the pain. but businesses feel the pain of black death. and then perhaps we can get structural solutions and investment and policy changes. >> get everyone involved in finding solutions to what's going on right now. >> one of the things people want in chicago is a federal role. looking into the police department, investigating. what direct role would that
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happen to have? >> the feds are going to have to look at the policies and procedures and training about firearms use. about how you are supposed to approach suspects and all the aspects of what happened and what went wrong in this shooting. because there are a lot of things that went wrong. >> from the very beginning. >> yeah. the tablctics were deplorable unfortunately. they broke only cardinal rules florida and contain. cover and concealment that gives you that extra second to react before you use your firearm. and people, you know, maybe they don't know but the superintendent was a high ranking member of the new york city police department. and he knew about the different roles we had here and the things in place and you have to ask did he look at what procedures they have in chicago? >> what about the fact that there had been complaints about this officer in question? >> apparently they have an early warning detection system they just ignored.
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this guy the reports about 20 different complaints. one could be just an outlier. but two, three, four? that is a pattern. >> let me ask you, does every officer, every guy have complaints against him or her? >> if you are an active cop you are going to get complaints. as simple as that. but not twenty. >> twenty is a lot. >> twenty is off the charts and the question is what mechanism was in place to prevent this guy from actually going out in the street. this is a chief internal affairs problem. a chief detect problem. a superintendent problem. these are the guys in charge of making sure guys like this are not on the street. if i was in charge this guy would be answering telephones. there is a problem. you have to figure out the problem and the training needed and what did they do to prevent this? >> in the past there seems to be are mur questions about the
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timing here. why did this take more than a year to press charges? >> why did this take more than a year to release the video? and some people are flat out saying, look, this video was suppressed. this investigation was delayed for political reasons. rahm emanuel the player was running for reelection. maybe it was fwoebetter to wait >> if you are a police officer or politician, dead black people at the hands of law enforcement in a post ferguson moment is bad for business. you could reasonably ask would rahm emanuel have been reelected? but also when you look at the burger king allegations that the police deleted footage. all of these things suggest police were invested in covering this up. the question about why is fascinating. it could just be a culture of police concealment, a culture of dishonesty. a culture of conspiracy. or it could be a more pointed
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reason they will only find out if we have investigation. and again that type of investigation has to come from the federal level because the police in chicago have consistently demonstrated based on this case and others they are unable to watch themselves and to police themselves. and quite frankly i think it is a naive and unrealistic expectation that any substitution, but particularly a state institution has the capacity to police or watch itself. it is unreasonable. >> joe, yes or no. an investigation like this, we don't know all the details. but should it ever take a year? >> no. this was a bad shooting in the first five minutes when you looked at the dash cam video. anybody with experience would look at this and go this is wrong. and the question comes out too like they didn't think have video is ever going to come out that's another problem. >> can police investigate themselves? >> in this case, no. of all the things, the videotapes missing the statements, these are red flags.
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>> unforgettable evening. donald trump claiming he did not make fun of a reporter with a disability. in fact he demanding now an apology for the "new york times." what does this mean for his white house bid? we'll have a discussion you won't ♪
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. right after, a couple of good paragraphs. and it's talking about northern new jersey. written by a nice reporter. now the poor guy -- you got to see this guy. oh i don't know what i said. i don't remember. he's going oh maybe that's what i said. this is 14 years ago. they still -- they didn't do a retraction. >> that is donald trump talking about "new york times" reporter serge kovaleski who wrote an
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article in 2001. he said nothing ever came of the investigations but the question now is, was trump mocking kovaleski's disability? he has a condition that limits the movement of his arm. trump says no way. he didn't know about the reporter's disability. and now he is demanding an apology from the "new york times." here so respond, cnn political commentators. let me read a tweet that just came over the transom here. if donald trump was a real man he'd own up to having made fun of kovaleski. instead he's a liar and a coward. >> well john is no fan of donald trump. the thing that really bothers me
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here is the photo from the "new york times." mocking john mccain's disability years ago. when it was well documented he couldn't do it because of his disability and yet they mocked him any way in a television commercial. it goes to the point that they are free to make fun of disabilities, they are free to go after african americans and latinos and women if they are conservatives but if you are a liberal, god forbid. and what happened here is that they are pretending to foe outrage over a story they now say the washington post couldn't be corroborated. then why did they print it if it couldn't be corroborated? this is phony from start to finish and it's typical and why so many americans are fed up with it. >> jeffrey, i hope donald trump
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sends you a really nice christmas present. . because for you to be able to come on here and somehow claim this is the "new york times" fault. say you can't claim for --. donald trump as making fun of someone with a disability. and when you do that. >> so was barack obama -- >> and you get busted do. >> let ben talk. >> let me be clear. you shouldn't have a standard of the lowest level when you are trying to defend a candidate like donald trump. donald trump should be man enough to come out and say i was mocking someone i didn't like. he has a disability. i'm sorry for mocking him. it was a wrong call. this is the arrogance and narcissism that gets him in trouble with so many conservatives who sit there and go when are you going to draw the line and sit there and apologize? trump saying i wouldn't ask
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forgiveness for god himself. and when you --. that is the lowest level -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> to that point -- >> oop we just lost ben for a second. >> to his point. not talking about past. talking about the candidate now and the comment that he made, can you defend that? is there any way you can defend his mocking of someone with a disability? >> first of all he says he didn't do it. >> we saw it on tape. we know people -- >> but. >> -- for years. >> he says that was not what was intended. i can't -- he speaks for himself. >> -- >> ben let him finish. >> go ahead. >> if this is the standard, then let it be the standard. this is part of the double standard. this is the problem.
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this is one of the reasons why he's doing so well because he doesn't put up with this kind of thing. >> put up with having to apologize for what some say is making fun of a disability? >> put up with the the double standards from liberals and establishment republicans. >> without blaming the "new york times" for what donald trump, without blaming barack obama for what donald trump said. >> i'm not blaming barack obama -- i'm blaming barack obama for what he said. >> -- [inaudible]. >> yeah. this is not about barack obama. this is not about the "new york times." this is about what donald trump did on the stump jeffrey. >> can i jump back in here? >> please. >> this is what's brilliant about donald trump's campaign? there is nothing he will say or can say that his supporters will not defend him, even if it looks like lunacy. when you are a presidential candidate, you should have some class, okay? you should not make fun of
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someone with a disability. and donald trump is -- >> barack obama [inaudible]. >> there's a two minute ban on saying barack obama, from now on. >> when you are donald trump, when you are at the poll where you are. have you peaked. and when you don't come out and -- you can say you are not making fun of someone with a disability. it was blatantly obvious that donald trump was making fun of someone with a disability. you apologize when you do that. it is called being classy. you are supposed to be as higher level of class than others. -- >> unless [inaudible]. >> and barack obama is not running for president. barack obama is not running for president. donald trump -- >> timeout. we need to take a breath. i'm going to ask you. this all, this noise, this conversation, this tone that donald trump has effectively set
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for 2016. we know politics are ugly. is this a new standard? is this what we can expect going forward, ben? >> only from donald trump. you are not going to see this from any of the other republican candidates. because they know when you make a mistake, sometimes you have to apologize for it. donald trump is the oy one down here in the mud at this level. and as a conservative when someone says says something like this we should all say that is inappropriate. and only people that disagree are donald trump's people and the people that love him. >> we have to let you go because we know you have to get to the stores and get tom great deals. thank you for being was. appreciate it. >> i think we worked it out. that last blog. >> something special ahead. james earl jones. he's at it again. what lured him to this part?
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prize winning play the gin game. this is such a pinch me moment for me. whether a pleasure to meet you. how are you? >> okay. >> you're okay. >> just got up. >> you just got up. look great to me. >> ready to work. >> i want to talk to you about this play. the 1976 play the gin game, the revival. i saw a matinee of it. it was amazing to me to see two legendary actors alongside one another reunited after 49 years. tell me what that experience was like for you. >> we started off off broadway together in a play call the blacks. in that play we all cycled through it and do it for a while and take a rest and let somebody else do it. my angelou.
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abby lincoln. sicily. all the actors that you have heard of. >> when i saw the matinee it was largely an african american crowd and it was a very raucous almost like a call in response in a black church it reminded me. is that a distraction? >> no it's not comfortable. my character is not trying to be funny. she wins, and wins and wins, and they love it. back woman power -- whatever it -- but they get set off by that. they like to see someone having victory for a change. you know? >> i know from the past that you are a cable news junky. is that true. >> i get home, i turn on tv. there are a couple cables that i watch, including cnn. >> i know you do.
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obviously you are quite well aware of all of the things going on in our country and in our nation, specifically with race relations. i'm curious, given the fact that you started your career and were in the public eye during another pivotal time in our world t civil rights movement. >> i mentioned john jeanette play, the blacks. it became important only because it was running alongside martin luther king's civil rights movement. >> have we made progress in that movement? >> oh yeah we have. but there is so far to go baa that it's minuscule. we have so far to go before we are one step below the angels, you know. just to keep encouraging us to keep moving you know? >> i want to talk to you
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obviously about our relationship with our network, cnn. to many people i know that you to this day are the voice of cnn. what was that like for you over the years. >> well you see i had just done some work on television. and i they wanted a voice of authority. meaning darth vader. and so i came out and gave them the voice of authority. i'd like to lighten it up a little bit but. >> you would have liked to do it a different way. >> be a little silly but no. >> i've been told that. they don't want silly from me either. don't feel bad. >> okay. >> there is one other thing i need to ask you about. and i need you to be honest with me james earl jones. you liked my name best when you said them didn't you.
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you said michaela pereira with a certain. >> oh yeah. >> you made alisyn and chris a little jealous i think. this has been a lifelong dream of mine. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. the gin game is on broadway through january 10th. >> darth vader so much nicer in person. >> adele has some competition. that south korean student's rendition of hello has now gone viral. what's next y life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours.
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