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happening now in the newsroom. the day after. shooting at a colorado planned parenthood. three are dead, including a police officer. today, new details on the victims and what could have sparked the standoff. >> started shooting. and i was looking at his face. five seconds we stared at each other, and in the five second period, those bullet holes went right through my windshield. >> denying entry to hundreds of people deemed a security risk.
magnificent mile protest. thousands take to protest the shooting death of mcdonald. today we're asking, did the protest work? and carson in jordan. the republican presidential candidate going overseas to visit refugees. will the trip silence critics of his grasp of foreign policy? >> and you are in the "cnn newsroom." i'm pamela brown in for poppy harlow on this saturday. and we begin with new developments in that deadly shooting at the colorado clinic. the suspect in the bloody siege will be in court on monday. 57-year-old robert dear is being held without bail. he allegedly opened fire. and this just into cnn, take a look, we are getting our first
glance at the suspect's residence, this tiny yellow shack and black mountain north carolina. this is where robert dear lived before he allegedly went to colorado and unleashed his gunfire. we still do not know a motive at this hour. all of colorado is in mourning after last night's six-hour siege. nine people are still in the hospital, including five police officers. the injured are all in good condition, we're told. >> and we have team coverage of the story. sarah gannon is in new york. but first, moments ago, spoke at the fire department complex. let's listen in. >> for his leadership, his dedication, along with all of the first responders. anytime you have a situation like that, you do see that this country is filled with heroes, and people that are willing to
put their lives -- >> and, of course, one of the first responders was officer garrett swasey. we've been looking into his incredible life. what a man he was. >> yeah. by the accounts of everyone who knew him, this was a man that was selfless in everything he did. from being a father and husband to also his former career as an ice dancer, selfless towards his former partner and also in his involvement in his church. everyone who knew him is in mourning today. >> a former championship ice skater and a leader at his church. he was also a devoted police officer killed friday in the line of duty when a man opened fire at a planned parenthood clinic in colorado springs. >> 44-year-old swasey was an officer for the university of colorado, colorado springs
campus. >> i've known him for about ten years and throughout the entire time watched him faithfully serve others and place others before himself in nearly every situation. >> a pastor with swasey at his church was there when swasey's wife had to tell their two young children what happened to their dad. >> the cries and the sobs of her children learning that their daddy was never returning is something that will probably be etched in my mind for the rest of my life. >> swasey was born in melrose, massachusetts. the mayor there saying as a class of 1989 graduate, i remember him to be a kind and caring young man with many friends dedicated to his skating career and excelling at all areas. a six-year veteran of the police force, law enforcement was his second career after retiring from figure skating. he competed in the 1995 national
championships and won a junior national title in 1992 in orlando. >> garrett is -- was the most selfless person i knew. always there as kind of my confidant, my brother. he put up with me. >> his skating partner christine fowler binder talked to swasey's mother on the phone. >> she wanted me to say, to remind everyone that garrett died in the line of duty protecting everyone in our country. and that there's no time that he ever would not have done that. >> in the early 1990s, swasey moved to colorado springs to train at the olympic training center. friends at the church say he defined himself through his faith. >> here's a man who stands on principle and loves christ. he might not be in alignment with the abortion industry, but
he'd be willing to go down and lay his life for those people. >> there was a packed vigil today at a colorado church honoring those three victims that died, including officer swasey. in addition today, all the sporting events will have a moment of silence in honor of their fallen officer. pam? >> i keep thinking, he was an officer at the local college. he didn't have to run into that danger, but he put himself in harm's way to rescue others. an incredible man. thank you so much. and take a look, this is new video of one of the vigils being held for the victims of the shooting. a crowd gathering at the all souls church in colorado springs to mourn those killed. and also honor survivors and first responders. among those speaking, the president of the local planned parenthood clinic that was targeted. >> yesterday, we know that the people in our health center responded quickly and with love.
the 15 smart, brave people in that health center. women and men did what they needed to do to protect everybody in that building. they got them into safe spaces. they got them into lock down. and they waited. they got quiet. they turned their phones off. our entire system was warned, don't call anyone in colorado springs. and we didn't. we waited. long, long wait. and today, all of our staff are okay. they're home, they're safe. they're with their families. and i know that they're going to be back. >> incredible that all of the staff survived. and we are also hearing from survivors held hostage at planned parenthood for hours. one of them is 22-year-old crown. she is pregnant and went with her boyfriend to planned parenthood to get an ultrasound.
i'm going to bring in dan simon in colorado springs. you spoke with this brave young woman. and i want to play your interview and talk with you, again, afterwards. she starts by describing the last moment she saw her boyfriend before gunfire erupted. >> last thing i recall was he was paying for the service, his card was declined. and from there, he went outside. and within 25 seconds, i just heard gun shots. >> when you saw the gunman outside. >> mm-hmm. >> what did he look like? >> like he had no remorse. and this was just a game to him. >> did you immediately recognize those as gun shots? >> no. >> even within, i couldn't register. it felt so surreal. and at that point, when i had heard the gun shots, i was able to make out a picture of what was going on because i saw the
gunman, and i saw him shooting. and once i realized that this is really happening, is when i -- i flee the scene and went in the back rooms. >> so you saw him outside? as you see him, you hear the gun shots and realize what's going on? >> exactly. >> what are you thinking in your mind? >> where's my boyfriend? what's going on. this can't be happening. didn't feel real. >> and then you go into a back room? >> yes. so i ran down the hall. i try to open one door, it was locked. i opened another door, and there was two people there. one was a nurse. and one was an actual patient. and from there, they had no idea what was going on. so i immediately pushed them in the door. shut the door. and i let them know there was a gunman, you know, armed. once they realized -- we don't
have a lock on the door. time went by, i wasn't hearing much. around 2:00, i don't know if it was before, you know, the armed car drove into planned parenthood or after. it was one of the two. but right after that had happened, you hear gun shots. and the gun shots weren't like the ones i heard prior. because the ones prior were clearly, you know, somewhere outside. it wasn't near, you could tell. it was not in the building. but when i heard around 2:00 the second gun shots, you could clearly tell it was in the building. it was near, it was close. one of the ladies beside me started screaming, i had to tell her to remain calm, everything's fine. because the gun shots were there as clear as day. we actually had a bullet go through our wall. it came through one and went through the other. and you could see the gun powder and smell it. and it was just frightening at that point. we all wanted to get out.
about, i'd say 30, 45 minutes later, a police officer had contacted one of us and let us know that he's coming, they're coming to get us. he wanted to know what end of planned parenthood we were at and he explained the procedures on how we would. and then after that phone call, maybe 20, 15 minutes after that, you hear people walking in the hall. and then you hear the procedure and you open the door and there was a s.w.a.t. team. >> i know this was a sensitive topic with your boyfriend. you haven't heard from him. what do you think? what do you think may have gone on? or happened? >> i don't know if the people who are injured have reached out to families yet or just doesn't
kn know. i'm hoping he's okay. >> his number may have been stored in your phone. >> exactly. i've called his phone when it was happening, i called him, text him and there was no reply. but his phone was active. and at a certain point my sister called and heard someone pick up and they hung up twice. and after that, his phone has been dead ever since. >> wow. what an interview, dan simon, in colorado springs for us. dan, first off, are authorities helping this woman track down her boyfriend? what do we know about that? >> reporter: well, she called police and they couldn't really help her. they told her to call the hospital and ask perhaps he might be one of the victims. and so she did that, and she found out that he's not in the hospital. as the time goes on, the worse it looks. hopefully some kind of explanation behind all of this. but very trying time for her and her family. she just wants to know what
happened here. we know that authorities have released the name of the police officer who died, but they have not released the names of those two civilians and we're told that's not going to take place until monday. >> wow. that must be agonizing for this woman to deal with that on top of the trauma of going through this active shooter situation. what stood out to you about her? >> well, obviously, it would be anxious for anybody, you know, going in to have an ultrasound. she just found out she was pregnant. she was there with her boyfriend. and here she is and she's about to leave and she hears the gun shots and sees this gunman walking around in the parking lot. she seems to be very welcome posed, however, especially given the fact that a bullet whizzed right by her sitting in that room. we're grateful she shared her story with us and we wish her the best and hopefully she hears what happened to her boyfriend.
>> absolutely. dan simon, thank you. and still to come, the paris terror attacks, new arrests and new security concerns. hundreds being denied entry at the country's border. plus, black friday shutdown. thousands block holiday shoppers on chicago's michigan avenue. protesting the shooting death of mcdonald and demanding the mayor and police superintendent resign. and this -- >> oh, this guy, i don't know what i said. i don't remember. >> donald trump and the "new york times" reporter new fallout and new questions today. some asking has he gone too far this time? you're live in the "cnn newsroom."
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disagree on whether the russian plane was in turkish air space when it was shot down. and today, russia announced it's enforcing economic restrictions against turkey. and also in turkey today, a prominent pro-kurdish lawyer was gunned down during a news conference. and the entire incident was caught on camera. you see the lawyer highlighted right there by the time the shooting was over, he was dead along with two police officers, another was wounded. his death sparked protests and police used water cannons to subdue the crowds. ian lee live with more. why was this lawyer targeted, ian? >> reporter: well, pam, that is the big question the a that thi. there's a lot of dramatic footage surrounding the moment
he is shot and killed. the one thing we do not see in this video is who shot and killed him and the exact moment it happened. this man is a prominent kurdish human rights lawyer. he has been advocating for peace between the turkish government and the kurdish pkk rebels. and he was out, actually, there at -- holding a press conference about this saying there needs to be peace between them. that's when he's shot and killed. the prime minister of turkey is saying this could be one of two things. it could either be an assassination or he could have been caught in the cross-fire of something else and happened to be killed that way. they say they will carry out a thorough investigation. but a little bit of background on him. last month, he went on cnn turk and talked about how the pkk, an
organization that's a terrorist group, declared a terrorist group by turkeyians saying there should be a political dialogue with them. well, he was arrested after that, interrogated also had death threats against them. all of these things considered in this investigation. >> i imagine. ian lee, thank you. and coming up in the newsroom, the nightmare of colorado lasted for hours. civilians taking cover, and three innocent lives lost. should we be calling this an act of terrorism? we'll discuss up next.
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bloody siege remains unclear. three people were shot dead, including a police officer. the suspect, 57-year-old robert dear is being held without bail. nine people are hospitalized, including five officers. and this deadly rampage was certainly a violent tragedy. but was it an act of terrorism? we'll talk it over with ben ferguson and mark lamont hill. and before we talk, guys, i want to begin by reading the definition of terrorism in the dictionary. and here's what it says. it says, terrorism, the use of violent acts to frighten people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal. to be clear here, we still do not know the motive of this shooter. ben, is it too soon to call it an act of terrorism? given the fact it was in a planned parenthood building? >> look, if it comes out that this individual targeted this because it was planned parenthood, then it's absolutely an act of domestic terrorism. and i think there's no -- we shouldn't have a big issue with
calling it that. when you have an individual or people that purposely target a group or a set of people for specific reasons, ideological reasons, let's call it what it is. that is an act of terrorism to not only scare the people at this place, this planned parenthood or any other clinic that may be going on. it's wrong, we should condemn it, and i'm glad that thank goodness, luckily he wasn't as successful as he probably wanted to be at killing people. >> mark, i want to get your opinion on this. sometimes the line isn't so clear between crazy and someone doing something for their political ideology. >> well, that's what's interesting, right? when it's an arab, we immediately say it's an act of terrorism. or if it's someone who was muslim. about a year ago i caught so much flak because i didn't want to call a workplace beheading an act of terrorism because i said i didn't know -- >> that was in oklahoma, right? >> and i said just because he's muslim and beheads someone doesn't mean it's terrorism.
he could be crazy. we need to know the political dimensions. if this person is advancing an anti-planned parenthood or what he would call a pro-life, ironically, stance, he is absolutely a domestic terrorist. let's get the information first. but let's also not exclusively reserve the term terrorism for people in the middle east to people who practice islam and not people right here in the united states who are the primary purveyors of domestic terrorism. >> and i want to read the statement on the shooting. it's from the rocky mountain planned parenthood president and ceo, and she says, we share the concerns of many americans that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country. what's your reaction to that statement? >> i agree with it. now, i believe later on they adjusted the statement and they said acts of violence because they also wanted to wait and see. i think they're right. there's a nasty environment right now that breeds domestic
terrorism. and it only emboldens others to do the same thing. and i think acts like this are the result of it. but they also produce more of it if we're not careful and vigilant about defending planned parenthood and every day citizens who have the right to practice a legal act. >> i disagree. and here's why. it is absolutely okay to criticize a group and to go after a group for what they are doing behind closed doors. with the videos that came out by planned parenthood. >> i agree. >> to imply this individual acted because of those videos or because of the intent scrutiny on planned parenthood and what they were doing, which was harvesting baby parts and selling them, that is, i think, stretching a little bit too far. there are crazy people. >> that's disputed. >> of course it's been disputed. let me make this clear. there are people every day that criticize people. it doesn't mean that someone that is crazy that does this,
that's somehow because of that discussion or that debate. there should have been a debate about planned parenthood and we shouldn't not have that debate about planned parenthood because we're afraid that one nut job might do this. >> mark? >> i agree with that point. but my point isn't to say talking about planned parenthood leads to these attacks. i'm saying this is an extension of a very ugly sort of discourse about planned parenthood. you can criticize it all you want. but things like this are an extension of that. and if we don't handle it properly, more of these incidents. what's fascinating, that's the opposite of what people said when police officers were tragically killed after the black lives matter process. somehow when it's planned parenthood, we can separate discourse from acts. but the police, it's a one to one relationship between the two. we can't have it both ways. >> but, mark, let's be clear, when someone walks up and assassinates a police officer and you have people protesting saying pigs in a blanket, fry
them like bacon, it's not as if i'm making a connection that's not a connection. when we have it being chanted in new york city, that is not an unrealistic connection to make. >> okay. hold on, guys. >> the rhetoric -- >> can we hit the pause button on this and save your energy and sit tight because up next, we turn to chicago, a city on edge, our ryan young is live in chicago. and ryan? >> reporter: as you look behind me, you can see michigan avenue is back open and people are shopping once again. but that was not the case yesterday as protesters shut down the middle of the street p upset about an officer shooting a black teen. we'll have the story coming up, live, next.
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those protesters aren't just demanding the resignations of top city officials, but they're also alleging there was a yearlong cover-up of a police dash cam video showing an officer fatally shooting a black teenager 16 times. most of those shots after laquan mcdonald was already on the ground. that officer is off the force and has been charged with first-degree murder. but activists say there needs to be a federal investigation into the entire chicago police department. cnn's ryan young joins us now from chicago. ryan, you've been there in the midsts of all of the action. is there any indication at this point that these protesters will get what they want? >> reporter: you know, that's the big question. everyone wants to know why it took 400 days for the video to be released. look, thousands of people showed up took over the entire street. everyone's back to the shopping. back to the sales they wanted to get to. when we saw the people going
block by block, they stopped by the middle of the intersection and said 16 shots, 16 shots. and it'll go all the way down. this happened down the entire mile and went on for several hours. last night, as late as 7:00, 8:00, they were still standing with their arms locked, blocking people from going inside the stores. in fact, we talked to one protester who said this worked out the best way he thought possible. >> they thought we would respond by burning it down. the precious magnificent mile would be up in flames. but look at the city, we're out here peaceful. we want peace, justice, opportunity. a lot of these folks don't know each other and making sure they're chanting. how does that make you feel? >> it's beautiful. it makes my eyes well up with joy. look at the diversity. old, young, rich, poor, white, black. we're all out here fighting for the same thing. we love this city. >> reporter: talked to some managers who say their business sales yesterday flat lined after what happened here.
for several hours, they thought they would only block up the north lanes of traffic, but now they block north and south lanes. when you talk about the four arrests, thousands of people here, there were very few incidents out here at all. and in fact, police officers and protesters for the most part coordinated their efforts. walked up one side of the street, the police officers made sure traffic stopped, blocked both sides of the road. we saw protesters talking with police officers. yes, we did see some chanting and asking for changes. look, there's a federal investigation that some of the protesters. they want to see changes within the city. >> the "chicago tribune" this morning reported that some shoppers out there in the magnificent mile balked at the protesters yesterday. one woman said she was american and just wanted to get inside that store and shop. what reactions do you see along the magnificent mile? >> well, we did see pushing and shoving early on when people locked their arms. in fact, one guy decided he was going to go inside the nike store no matter what and ended up getting into a pushing match.
we saw a lot of people just having a vocal conversation about trying to get in and out of the store. you think about it. only four arrests. you know most of the incidents didn't get out of hand. we did see police officers some time coming to the aid of people inside the stores to get them out. >> all right. ryan young, appreciate it. we'll talk to you, again, soon. and i want to bring our panel back in. cnn political commentators. a professor -- host of the ben ferguson show. i told you we had a lot more to talk about here. and mark, to you first. there was a lot of anger as we see in chicago and a lot of it has to do with the fact it took 400 days for this video to be released. and only after a freedom of information act request. if the protesters get these top officials to step down, do you think that's enough? how far would that go toward bringing the city together? >> well, i think the only way you bring the city together is to get justice. people often call for peace, but justice is a precondition for peace. the only way you get justice is, one, for the officers to be
investigated in this case and for the proper legal channels to be taken. two, you need the people who were involved in this cover-up to be dealt with, as well. that goes for police and city officials. that's also something. and then third, we need some kind of sustainable solutions. that means citizen review boards. that means internal affairs not being the primary investigators of police. police in chicago in particular have demonstrated they can't police themselves. we need some sort of long-term sustainable solution to monitor and police the police and to create sustainable outcomes in our communities. >> and the justice department denied an investigation to the police department. i believe it was last year. ben, what is your take on all of this on the protests and these demands for these top officials to step down? >> well, there should be accountability. i also think that 400 days, plus, for the video to come out is just far too long. the public deserves to see that. i also think this is another blatant example of where, if we would've had body cameras, it would have given us a much better view of this probably a lot earlier on. we shouldn't have to rely on the
dash board camera. and mark and i have come on here a lot. we disagree on a lot of things, but there's one thing we both agree on. how long is it going to take for something so readily available, so easy to implement in police forces around the country to just say, we're going to do this and police are going to have the body cameras so that we can see all angles of this quickly so there can be justice. whether you're a wrongfully accused police officer or you're an individual that was attacked by the police and they went too far on their side. this, i think, would help the situation out. and we keep saying these situations. and yet, we keep seeing dragging their feet by local community and police organizations and government officials, this is so easy to implement. this is something we should all be able to get behind. and yet, we still don't have body cameras on the mass majority of cops. >> they don't want it. i remember being in ferguson last year, and we were on the ground there during all the uprising. and, you know, i saw s.w.a.t. team gear. military-style weapons,
grenades, rocket launchers, everything but dash board cameras. they don't want to investigate themselves. they don't want accountability. >> but some police departments are adopting body cameras. i want to ask you this, mark. we see this incredible display on the streets of chicago at the magnificent mile. so many people out protesting. we don't see this kind of display, though, after what happened with the killing of this 9-year-old little boy at the hands of a gang member. and we -- that kind of crime happens far too often, as well. why don't you think we see the same type of protests? >> well, i think, first of all, i don't want to confuse with protests with response or resistance. black people in particular have always resisted black on black crime. we've always challenged it. we've always been upset about it. we don't march against because it wouldn't lead to an outcome. we march against law enforcement because we have a good faith relationship based on our social
contract that the state will protect us and serve us. so when police kill us, we expect due process. black people go to jail for killing black people all the time. there's no shortage of black people in jail for killing black people. that doesn't happen with law enforcement. we need a different response. the way to respond isn't to march. who would you march on? you have violence interruption. which is what we see in chicago. you have conflict resolution, but also you need jobs, after school programs, music programs, arts programs, teachers, housing, food, clothes, shelter. a range of things needed to prevent. and we're trying to do that stuff. >> ben, quickly. >> let's be clear, though. if communities started to march against the gangs that were killing 9-year-olds, it might actually have an effect on these communities and start to turn things around. i think there needs to be some consistency here with those that are killing african-americans regardless of what their race is. and if you have gangs that are infiltrated into your community, having a march and putting a spotlight on those leaders, most people in a community outside of
that neighborhood don't know who the leaders are and who the gang members are. >> that is happening. >> starting to take them on in a public way. let me finish this. if you started to take them on in a same public way that the people that were protesting yesterday are demanding that these public officials step down. if you demand that the police take on the leaders and out them in your community, it could have a very big impact on violent crime against young african-american children. >> stick around, because we have a lot more to discuss. we're talking trump up next after this break. the republican presidential front-runner accused of mocking a reporter with a physical disability. did he finally go too far? or will he continue to defy political gravity? we'll discuss it right after this quick break. ♪ the way i see it, you have two choices; the easy way or the hard way. you could choose a card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or, you could make things easier on yourself.
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donald trump is demanding an apology from the "new york times" after flat-out denying accusations he mocked one of the newspaper's reporters for having a disability. trump addressed the controversy a short time ago during a campaign rally in florida. >> this reporter is so happy. people have heard of him now. nobody ever heard of the guy. now people -- he's having such a good time. the person has a disability. and the person said, i know him, i know him.
and i said, when? in the 1980s. that's a long time. 30, 35 years. that's a long time ago. >> so at a south carolina event trump flailed his arms and seemed to distort his speech while talking about the reporter, who has a disability. co the reporter says he and trump were on a first name basis. mark, if any other candidate said what donald trump said and did what he did, what do you think would happen? >> i think different candidates have different leashes. some are short, some are long. but i can't imagine anybody getting away with this but donald trump. it's remarkable what he's been able to say or do with almost no
penalty. the one thing bobby jindal has been right about in his life is donald trump is like a carnival barker. as a result, everything he does is absurd and bizarre. i don't know if it translates into votes when we get to iowa. but it certainly translates it into a lot of attention. >> a piece in the "washington post" says, "trump's display was reminiscent of rush limbaugh's similar mockery of michael j. fox's parkinson's disease. both have legions of fans who if you're a political candidate must not be offended." why do you think donald trump gets away with it? >> i think there's people who like donald trump and there's virtually nothing he can say that is going to alienate them or make them stop supporting it. that's what you call having fanatics who are around you. the big question is are there
new people that are willing to come to donald trump's side and/or vote for him. and i think that's where these comments get him in trouble. he's become the teflon candidate, yes. but when it comes down to actually walking in a voting booth, closing that curtain behind you and pressing a button, can you do it for an individual that you're literally saying i want to be president of the united states of america who has mocked a reporter for being disabled? donald trump can sit there and say he didn't know who the guy was and say oh, there's an unfair attack on me and i didn't know what he looked like. i don't believe him and most voters who aren't fanatics for donald trump believe him. what donald trump did is reprehensible, it's disgusting, it's vile, and it should not be a quality that people support when they're running for president regardless of what party they're in. >> donald trump is awaiting that apology from the "new york
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