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their path to jihad. the head of the fbi just saying today, these two were radicalized before they met, before they even started dating online, and at a hearing this morning fbi director james comey also told senators he believes that the wife was radicalized before she came to the united states. he says investigators are looking at the couple's marriage license right now. >> is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged by a terrorist organization or terrorist operative? or was it just a meeting on the internet? >> i don't know the answer to that yet. >> do you agree with me that if it was arranged by a terrorist operative or organization that is a game-changer? >> it would be a very, very important thing to know. that's why we're working so hard to understand it. >> that's the biggest focus i think of how it would change the game, that they could actually arrange a marriage of two like-minded individuals, use the fianc fiancee visa system to get into
the country. >> this as officials tell cnn the male shooter was planning an attack on a different location with someone else, a different partn partner, back in 2012. cnn's ana cabrera joins me in san bernardino, california. but first evan perez, what stands out to me so much is that no one in law enforcement on a local or federal level saw one red flag on this couple. now, you know, in a week's time investigators are learned all this information about the path to radicalization, especially since the attack, but with no hard drive to work off, per se, and smashed cell phones. so how do they do that? >> reporter: there a lot of information the nsa and other organizations are able to collect. the problem is it's very difficult to flag this stuff in realtime. you have to go back after something like this, after something goes boom, you go back and see what was in the collection that intelligence agencies have. and we know the nsa collects a
lot of personal communications overseas. that's one way that these people would have been able to be flagged at least. but again, you have to know what you're looking for. and it's clear now, poppy, from what the fbi director said that going back to at least 2013 when he is online chatting with his future wife that he's talking about jihad according to the fbi director. these are things that obviously would be a big marker, big flag that the fbi would love to follow up on. again, it's free speech. you can talk about jihad. it's when you decide to take action on that. but it's certainly something that gives the fbi impetus to take a deeper look. now you know as you pointed out that in 2012 he was already thinking and plotting a possible attack. >> let's talk about that, right? this just came out from your reporting and pamela brown's reporting. in 2012 they think he was plotting an attack somewhere with someone else. what do we know about why that was never executed?
>> reporter: just about that time the fbi arrested four people. there were actually five in all but four were arrested who were thinking about trying to travel overseas to fight with terrorist groups. keep in mind, again, we're talking about 2012. back then it was pre-isis, right? they were trying to travel overseas to join al qaeda. they were arrested. they were planning to travel across the border to mexico and they were stopped before that happened. again, this happened right there in the inland empire outside of los angeles, and that apparently is what, from talking to sources, apparently spooked farook and his co-plotter. we don't know how far this plot really got, if this was something that they were ruminating on. we also don't know what the possible target was, but it helps give fbi the sense that this radicalization happened much earlier than first thought, poppy. >> now it appears even before they met. evan, thank you.
to ana, the investigators are looking at everything, right? but they're really honing in on the bank account, the male shooter's bank account. he got this big loan, more than $28,000, in november, right before the attack. they're saying they don't think it appears he used that money in this attack, though, right? >> reporter: that's correct. we're told from law enforcement sources that they have accounted for all of that money. they believe half of it actually was doled out to farook's mother in the weeks before the shooting. you'll recall that the mother lived with farook and his wife in that same town home in the days, weeks, months leading up to the shooting. there's still big questions about what she may have known if anything about this plot. they've also said that some of that money went to household items. they don't believe that the money went to finance the terror attack. it's believed that the weapons, the arsenal, ammunition that they had purchased all came before that loan was taken out. also important to note that, at this point, according to law
enforcement officials who told cnn it does not appear there are any indications that there is somebody outside, a terror network or individual, who intentionally may have given money to farook and malik in order to finance the terror plot. but, as you mentioned, the finances are still something they're digging into so they haven't drawn any conclusions just yet. >> but they are looking very closely at a former neighbor, right, a former neighbor of the male shooter a man named enrique marquez. why are they still so interested in him? >> reporter: well, he, again, is the person who they've now tracked a couple of the weapons to. he purchased two ar-15s that were used in the attack. what we've learned about enrique marquez is he used to be the next-door neighbor to the farook family. in fact, we were out in that neighborhood yesterday talking with neighbors who say that they did see farook and marquez working together on cars in farook's family garage. now, marquez apparently has been talking to investigators even though he initially checked
himself into a mental health facility following the attack. what we're told is he purchased those two ar-15s back in 2011 and 2012. he tells investigators that he apparently gave those weapons or sold those weapons to farook shortly after he purchased them, but he never reported the ownership transfer, which would be against the law here in california. but at this point he is not facing any charges, and law enforcement officials say he's been cooperative. they do not believe at this time that he was involved directly in the terror plot here at the facility behind me, poppy. >> ana cabrera, thank you so much for the reporting on the ground there, evan perez as well working his law enforcement sources. also to this top story today, the reality is we are at war, a quote, those words from the top man at the pentagon. as he took the hot seat on capitol hill for the first time since the san bernardino rampage. defense secretary ash carter defending president obama's isis
strategy in front of senators, also offerig a new option to help fight that war. for the first time carter says the united states is ready to deploy advisers on the ground and apache gunships to help iraqis retake the key city of ramadi. >> the reality is we're at war. that's how our troops feel about it because they're taking the fight to isil every day. applying the might of the finest fighting force the world has ever known. we want this xe digsary targeting force to make isil and its leaders wonder when they go to bed at night who's going to be coming in the wind dough. >> major revelation the defense secretary said this morning, isis is not contained. that directly contradicts what president obama said in an interview last month. >> from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them.
they have not gained ground in iraq. and in syria, they'll come in, they'll leave. >> general dunford, we have not contained isil. mr. secretary, do you agree with general dunford? >> i agree with what general dunford said, yes. >> joining me now to discuss cnn military analyst, where is the divide when you have the top man at the pentagon saying one thing, the president saying another. is it an intelligence divide, or is it an improvement in intelligence in the last three weeks? >> i think it is a semantics divide, truthfully, poppy. when the president was speaking, i think it was an abc, he was talking about containing isis in syria and iraq. i think his words were parsed in congress and especially on the committee that was investigating. they talk about isis as a generalized body throughout the
world as new organizations or old terror organizations are taking on the mantle of isis. i don't want to get into that argument. the fact of the matter is there has been progress in iraq and syria. we see across the bored in northern iraq isis' supply lines being cut. they can no longer move with the mobility that they had before. they are taking a pounding in raqqah and in and around raqqah. they are changing the amount of money they are paying their fighters. there have been almost 10,000 iraqi security forces regenerated that are taking the fight to isis in ramadi. they're having some difficulties there. i don't want to paint a rosy picture, but i think you're seeing improvements in the fight in iraq and syria. certainly we're not there yet. we said this is going to take a very long time. but at the same time that's happened, the average american will say, how can you say isis is contained, mr. president, when we see all these other acts going on all over the world? well, it's because isis has
adapted their terror tactics. there are some that have been radicalized, as we've seen. they are doing things in other areas so it just is counterintuitive to say the organization is contained when you see so many actions of different accounts around the world. >> what about what senator john mccain said at that hearing and other lawmakers, really demanding to know when the united states expects that it will be able to retake with the coalition other key cities like raqqah and mosul? carter and the others couldn't give an answer. when you look at raqqah, how concerned are you about no time line for when that could be accomplished/. >> i've been under the heat of senator mccain's questionings on several occasions both in the field and in congress. i can tell you that a whole new situation occurs when the red light goes on on the floor of the congress. what he's asking for is something that is impossible to
give. what is the time line for retaking mosul? we don't know. i mean, the time line for taking ramadi took longer than the u.s. elements thought because it is the iraqi time line that is retaking. i remember once being told by an iraqi general, you americans have the watch, but we have the time. meaning they will do it on their own time. the same thing will occur in terms of when they get the force ready to go to mosul. and i think we're seeing a gradual impediment of isis in and around raqqah that will continue to improve as targeting improves, which we've keen recently. we are dropping more bombs. the old adage of, hey, we're only dropping 25% of our munition, that's false. it's no longer true so we should stop saying that. isis is being hit hard in the bombing campaign, and we are seeing increasing intelligence and increasing fighters, kurdish, syrian free forces and
iraqi security forces, going after them. >> general mark hertling, thank you as always. appreciate the insight. coming up next, to politics, no doubt the republican party is in turmoil, but will it be this man, donald trump, that decides if fate the front-runner putting the gop on notice as the global firestorm against him grows? also, we have breaking news out of baltimore. one of the police officers charged in freddie gray's death took the stand today. you'll hear what he said about the seat belts inside of that police transport van. and also heartpounding moments all caught on video of a s.w.a.t. team walking into a hostage situation during a home invasion. we will show that to you. stay with us. i've smoked a lot and quit a lot,
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a news conference with the city on edge after a number of videos of police-involved shootings have been released in the last few weeks. the mayor apologizing for the police in the 17-year-old shooting of lequan mcdonaldment we'll speak to a task force members straight ahead. also breaking news out of baltimore. the police officer william porter taking the stand there in his own defense. he is the first of six baltimore police officers to go on trial in the april death of freddie gray. porter faces multiple charges including involuntary manslaughter and reckless dane iengerment. he faces 20 years in prison. he testified about why he did not strap freddie gray with a seat belt in the van saying he had never been shown how, also why he didn't call a medic. let's talk about this with miguel. let's get to the major question about calling for help and
whether he heard freddie gray say that he couldn't breathe. >> reporter: look, the cross-examination of william porter has just begun. that is going to be a very tough cross-examination after about a two-hour direct questioning by his own lawyers. on the question of whether or not he heard mr. gray say he couldn't breathe, officer porter explained that to his defense lawyer by saying -- and to the jury -- that he only heard that as mr. gray was yelling at the very first incident, at the very first stop. some big points he made regarding the seat belting you were talking about, he said, we were trained to use seat belts in the academy. but in all of my time on the streets, in everything i learned while i was on the job, we never seat belted detainees, he said, while they were in the van. he'd do it in his cruiser but not while they were in the van. the other huge question that porter got today was, what happened at that fourth stop? six stops altogether in this
situation. what happened at the fourth stop? porter insisted that gray was responsive, that he was okay, that it was gray himself who helped himself up onto the bench as porter was trying to support him. the lawyers at one point laying on the ground, the jury standing up watching all of this happen, fairly dramatic moments as the lawyers tried to demonstrate how that happened in the van and how mr. gray helped in his ownself undermining the prosecution saying the defense expert saying if mr. gray had broken that part of his neck, he wouldn't have been able to move. he couldn't have moved a finger. he couldn't have moved a toe, their expert said. so the jury taking all of this in now that porter is on the stand. they are taking notes, some copiously, clearly taking all of this in. poppy? >> miguel marquez, thank you for that update. much more with my legal panel ahead. coming up next, breaking news. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu reacting to donald
trump's comments about muslims, this ahead of their meeting scheduled for later this month. we will bring you the latest on that. also, was the paper pledge all for show? >> i have signed the pledge. >> trump now warning he could run as an independent, pointing out a poll saying that he would do very well if he did. but can the republican party afford to lose trump's loyal base of supporters? we'll discuss the future soul of the gop next.
emanuel is holding a press conference apologizing to the city for police misconduct. he did that this morning. and also for the investigation over the shooting of 17-year-old lequan mcdonald by a chicago police officer now charged with first degree murder. the protests are on the move in the heart of chicago. we will speak with one of the mayor's task force coming up. donald trump may be sticking to his plan to ban muslims from the united states, but he's threatening to break his promise about running as an independent. here's what he said today on "live with kelly and michael". >> with that being said, would you consider running as a third party candidate? >> first of all, i don't want to do that. i'm leading in the polls by not a little bit, 20, 21 points. the people, the republican party, the people have been phenomenal. the party i'll let you know about that. and if i don't get treated fairly, i would certainly consider that.
>> trump then cited this new poll from "usa today." it found 68% of his supporters say thaiey'd follow him as a thd party candidate. that's an option that trump supposedly ended back in march. you'll remember this moment, this oath to stay within the party. >> the best way for the republicans to win is if i win the nomination and go directly against whoever they happen to put up, and for that reason i have signed the pledge. >> yeah! >> so i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party. >> that was back in september, but now donald trump has reintroduced an independent run as a potential after a solid 48 hours of other republican
lawmakers, candidates, party officials bashing his call for, quote, a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. with me now to discuss rebaek kaburg national reporter for real clear politicians and ron von gene who used to be the spokesman for trent lott. thank you both for being here. rebecca, you know there are a lot of things politicians have said on tape, on camera and have reversed course on. if he reverses course, does it hurt him? >> well, with trump it's always hard to know, poppy, because we have predicted time and again that things he has said and done would hurt him and lo and behold they end up not hurting but helping in some cases. it's hard to say. i think that video of him holding up the gop pledge and saying he would run as a republican would be very potent, a very potent tool or weapon for people to use against him if he were to run as a third party candidate. to quite frankly, i would say what he is threatening now in terms of running as a third party candidate is much more of
a tactic than it is an actual threat. because every indication we've seen from donald trump is that he knows how to play this game. he is very, very clever politically. and what he does by threatening this is prevent the gop from taking him on as wholeheartedly and full throated in a way they might otherwise do. >> we'll see all of this leading up to the last gop debate of the year, which is on cnn tuesday night. certainly a lot more will be revealed then. ron, i want to look at these numbers again, this "usa today" poll. 68% of trump supporters, not republicans but trump supporters, right now say, yes, if he leaves the party, runs on his own, we will support him. my question 0 to you is, can the gop still win the presidency if trump does this? >> well, that's a really great question, and it's really difficult to answer at this point. i would say this. i would say that trump keeps claiming if he's not treated by the gop fairly he would leave. but he is not treating republicans fairly with his comments about muslims, with his
over-the-top comments about most other things these days. it ae's hurting the republican brand. i think in the long term we have to think about how long we stick with donald trump. i think more republican candidates and congress needs to get out there and disavow his comments to make sure that once we select a nominee we're not tarred and branded with this guy's rhetoric. it's -- i think over the long term it could really hurt us. >> let's take a look, rebecca, a listen to this and talk about it on the other side. >> this is both a shameless and a dangerous idea. some of his republican candidates are saying that his latest comments have gone too far. but the truth is, many of them have also said extreme things about muslims. their language may be more veiled than trump's, but their ideas are not so different.
>> their ideas are not so different. rebecca, she is painting that party, those candidates, as the same pretty much as donald trump. i wonder what your reaction is to that among just the voters and how they will read that and also if perhaps another republican candidate could pull away, run as an independent and have any sort of shot if they feel like they're all being painted with the trump brush. >> to address your first question, poppy, i think this is exactly what the republican party and the rest of the republican field has really feared from donald trump's candidacy, that it puts their party in a bad light. the republican party has worked so hard over the past couple of months and years since 2012 to try to broaden its appeal, broaden its base, reach out to minorities, reach out to women in new ways. and what donald trump does is completely bring the party in the opposite direction. so what we're going to probably see more of from democrats, as we already have begun to see
from hilalary clinton, is this classic guilt by association. painting with a broad brush saying that all republicans even if they don't necessarily agree with donald trump are basically in the same camp as him. and this is the risk that a lot of the candidates run right now by not condemning him more actively. this goes back to what ron was talking about. we've heard some members of congress, some senators come out and rebuke donald trump's remarks. but on the campaign trail we're hearing some very tepid responses to what he has said because at least candidates frankly are afraid of upsetting his supporters because they want to win them over and that could be a problem in the general election. >> ron, quickly, leading up to the gop debate tuesday night, what do you do if you're one of those candidates who is trying to break through, not polling as well as donald trump and now being painted with the same brush as him? >> quickly, first of all, i'd have to say that i think president obama has created the situation where donald trump is reacting to a weak commander in chief. so i think if other candidates were to show how strong they can be as a leader dealing with
isis, as a leader dealing with these big issues facing our country in a responsible way, that woo would be really helpful. >> haven't they done everything possible? lindsey graham yesterday today donald trump to go to hell. >> i'll tell you what, i think speaker paul ryan who is a hero of the gop said it right, that this is not conservativism. this is not what we stand for as a party. and look, yes, brindz graham is helpful. i think the candidates will be asked and put on the spot and they'll be ready to answer forcefully hopefully. >> we'll be watching next tuesday night. big gop debate, i think the world will be watching. thank you, rebecca and ron. speaking of donald trump, the front-runner sitting down with our very own don lemon today. you will see that entire interview at 10:00 p.m. eastern on "cnn tonight". back to our breaking news. take a look, protesters amassing in chicago right now as mayor rahm emanuel holds a news conference with a city on edge, the mayor today apologizing for police misconduct and for the investigation over the shooting death of 17-year-old lequan
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. breaking right now, protests erupting in chicago. as we speak, you see people filing down the streets for blocks and blocks, middle of downtown chicago middle of the workday, this as mayor rahm emanuel apologizes for the entire city over the investigation of the shooting death of 17-year-old lequan mcdonald, the video just being released in the past few weeks. we will speak with a member ever the mayor's task force straight ahead. first, donald trump's proposal to temporarily ban muslims entering the united states is now causing concern
for an agency that is helping syrian refugees. the united nations high commissioner for refugees says that donald trump's remarks could jeopardize the entire resettlement program. the spokesman melissa flemming says, quote, we are concerned that the rhetoric that is being used in the election campaign is putting an incredibly important resettlement program at risk that is meant for the most vulnerable people, the victims of war that the world is unable to stop. strong words from her. despite the political rhetoric, there's a pastor in atlanta who is helping resettle a syrian refugee family who arrived recently in georgia. brian wright is a senior pastor of johnson ferry baptist church and former president of the southern baptist convention. thank you for being with me. >> good to be with you. >> this is something that the governor of your state does not want to see. governor deal has called for a temporary halt on allowing syrian refugees in. your congregation came in. you are helping them. walk me through that decision.
>> well, we've been in the works on this decision for many months, and working with a christian minister called world relief. and offering our assistance as a local church to help these syrian refugees be resettled here in the united states. my wife and i were over in the middle east last fall, and we were ministering and partnering with ministries that are ongoing to the syrian refugees, and it is a humanitarian disaster there. so at our church, johnson ferry, we just want to reach out with the love of christ and recognize that christ himself in this christmas season was a refugee when joseph and mary had to take him to egypt because of an evil ruler that was seeking to kill all those boys in bethlehem. so at johnson ferry we just want to share the love of christ with these folks when they come to the united states. i understand governor deal's concern. he has a different responsibility in being concerned about the security of the citizens of the state. but as christians and as a church, we want to reach out
with the love of christ to these folks. >> so let me ask you this. i assume, as in any big group, not everyone is politically aligned or on the exact same page. i'm wondering if any of your parishioners have expressed concern over this and if you are all politically on the same page or if there is sort of a divide there and how you're handling that. >> well, i certainly can't speak for awful the parishioners of johnson ferry. i'm sure there would be those that would be concerned because people throughout the united states are fearful because of islamic terrorism today. that's very understandable. but at the same time we know that we're called to reach out to those who are refugees, those are who strangers or aliens, as scripture talks about, and we want to share with them the love of christ, hoping that they can become good citizens here in america one day in the future. >> how many are you taking in? >> right now we have just been connected with one family, but we're certainly open to other families, as they come in. >> if people want to help, what
can they do? >> well, for one thing, you can call the global missions office at johnson ferry if you'd like to be of assistance as we're caring for the needs of this family right now. but also i would say it would be great for christians all over the country to be praying for these syrian refugees and recognize the tremendous opportunity we have to share the love of christ, especially now at this christmas season. as these people have faced incredible hardships and difficulties in syria. >> pastor brian wright, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> very good to be with you. back to our breaking news. take a look at this, live pictures out of chicago. protesters gathering right now in the heart of chicago, as mayor rahm emanuel holds a news conference puts the city on edge. the mayor apologized earlier today for police misconduct into the investigation over the shooting death of lequan mcdonald. we'll be right back.
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take a look. these are aerial images, live pictures out of chicago. the middle of the busy workday in chicago, just before 2:00 p.m. local time there. people amassing, protesting in the wake of an apology from chicago mayor rahm emanuel today as he spoke before the city council. he took responsibility for police misconduct. he said, i own it, i take responsibility for what happened because it was on my watch, talking about the police investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old lequan mcdonald last year. he also said chicago needs, quote, a painful and honest reckoning. and that was regarding what happens with police officers and the use of excessive force. again, you'll remember the dash cam video of the shooting death of lequan mcdonald was released just a few weeks ago. subsequently, the officer involved in the shooting, jason
van dyke, has been charged with first degree murder. >> what happened on october 20, 2014, should snenever have happened. supervision and leadership in the police department and the oversight agencies that were in place failed. and that has to change. i am the mayor. as i said the other day, i own it. i take responsibility for what happened because it happened on my watch. >> that was mayor rahm emanuel this morning. just moments ago, though, he did address directly the protesters amassing in the streets of chicago. right now, let's listen to that. >> what do you tell those people who are in the street as we speak demanding your resignation
who don't believe you, who basically say you're a liar? i mean, what do you say to those people to change the conversation, to prove to them that that's not true? >> well, charles, the best thing i know is to not just say things but also do things that are consistent with what i say. if you look at my record on a host of issues, you'll see that's true. but this is of a different nature. >> rahm emanuel just talking about the protesters you see gathering right now in chicago. we have reporters out with them. we will bring you a live report from them as soon as we can. but in the wake of these high-profile police-involved deaths in chicago, the mayor has formed a task force on police brutality. i'm joined by lori lightfoot, a member of the mayor's task force and president of the chicago police board. lori, thank you for being with
me. >> it's my pleasure. >> we just heard what rahm emanuel said to the reporter there. as we show the live pictures of the protesters amassing, what is your reaction to what's playing out in your city today? >> i think what you're seeing is a number of things, but in particular people who care about the city, care about their neighborhoods, care about their streets. and they are stressing to us their concern and demanding action. and they will get it. i think the mayor laid that message very clearly this morning in his speech. and of course the words won't matter if we don't follow them up with decisive action. >> sure. >> that's exactly what the task force is intending to do. >> you say they're demanding action and they will get it. for a lot of folks in chicago who feel this way and it has boiled over and we're seeing it play out on the street now, they feel like action has been slow in coming or justice delayed, if you will. can you talk to me, lori, about some of the action we will see? because the "chicago tribune" recommended today hiring a seep
senior officer for civil rights? can you talk about that, what we might see? >> that was one of the recommendation that the task force made to the mayor early on. clearly one of the thing that's we have to wrestle with and we've already started that process is better and more proper engagement between the police democrpartment and the c and the citizens it's sworn to serve and protect. that is mission one. at the end of our process, if we haven't set the foundation for trust and accountability and transparency so that people in the neighborhoods, people who are affected by policing every day have confidence that when they call for police they're going to get somebody who understands who they are and is respectful and is discharging their responsibilities in the right way, if we don't accomplish that, then we will have failed in our mission. i am confident that we will get there because we are going to be addressing fundamental issues, accountability, supervision, training. we are going to be making
specific recommendations on an early warning system for those officers who don't do their job the right way, that we intervene in an individual way at the earliest possible point. and if we can't turn them around, that we turn and show them the door. that's a critical part of what our mission is. there are a number of other issues we're going to take on, one of which is coming up with a proper nuanced policy on addressing the release of videos. in this age where videos are everywhere from camera phones to on buildings and so forth, people want to know, is there a video and what does the video show? >> right. >> we want to make sure we balance that -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> lori, i'd like to ask you about that point specifically. i'm glad you brought it up. we did hear this morning mayor rahm emanuel apologize for taking frankly 400 days for the video to come out and the officer to be charged with first degree murder. we still don't know why, though. he didn't say why it took so long. can you shed some light on that for us? >> well, my understanding is
that part of the decision making was giving deference to both the state and the federal criminal investigations that started really early on after the shooting that happened back in october of last year. as i was saying, it's important that we give people answers and we show videotapes at the earliest possible point. >> do you know why this video wasn't released for so long? do you know why? >> well, what i'm saying to you is, i think there was a decision to give deference to the state and federal investigations that were ongoing. the u.s. attorney's office came in fairly early on and said they were going to open up a grand jury investigation. and clearly the city and no civil authority wants to be in a position where it is compromising the integrity of a criminal investigation. but the mayor himself has said, the longer the videotape remained undisclosed, the more the mistrust built. one of the specific things that the task force has taken on and we've already started
discussions about is looking at best practices examples from other cities so that we can have a policy that meets both the public's interest and request and demand to know, is there video and what's on it, balanced against making sure we don't compromise the integrity of either a civil investigation or, in this instance, a criminal investigation. >> when did mayor rahm emanuel see the video, the dash cam video, of the shooting death of lequan mcdonald? >> i believe the mayor addressed that question several weeks ago. he saw it around the vaim tisam that the public did. but the issue is what the mayor saw and when. the issue is what's the policy. did we execute on the policy? do we need to change the policy? and how do we balance those competing interests that i just spoke about? >> let's talk about some of the steps that have been taken so far. we've seen the chicago pd's increase use of body cameras. we've seen a reshaping of leadership. we've seen a change at the top
of ifra, the independent body that does these investigations. we've deny something -- from ferguson to baltimore to chicago there's been talk of community policing and how important that is, to know the community you are policing. cop onz the beat. we've seen a little bit more of a focus on that in chicago. for you, from your vantage point, what is the biggest thing, number one thing that needs to change in chicago you think on the policing front and the community relationship front? >> well, we've got to reinvigorate the trust. chicago really was the start of community policing. we perfected community policing. but clearly in the intervening time period there's been a disintegration of the trust between a community and the police officers and we've got to rebuild that trust. there are communities in other city that absolutely need the police to be successful. they need them to understand and protect them against crime and violence that rages in those communities. but we've got to bridge that
gulf that has developed in trust. i'm hoping one of the things coming out of our process with we are going to start the prosuccess of rebuilding. we're already involved in engagetion the community in the work we're doing, explaining to them what our mission is. but there's more work to be done and we intend to do that. >> lori, i really appreciate your time today. thank you very much. >> thank you. top of the hour. i'm poppy harlow. i want to get to ryan young on the streets of chicago in the heart of the protest that is ama amassing. ryan, can you hear me? >> reporter: i certainly can. we were inside the mayor's press conference. we heard about everything that was going on here. we ran outside, saw about 100 students run into the thompson center here and officers barricade the door. so we're going to step outside and show you kind of what's going on right now. this is the door they blocked. as you can see, police officers are keeping a line here where they're wanting to make sure nobody else comes into the
building. we're getting closer to the protesters. the protests we've seen today are a lot younger. they look like they're high school students. they're being led by several people who are walking through the streets blocking traffic. but just in the last two, three minutes they all ran to these doors right here. we saw pushing and shoving of officers as they tried to get into this building. they had a short protest on the inside when the rest couldn't get in, they were pushed all the way back out. now they've spilled out in this direction. we're walking a little closer to show you what's going on on the street. basically what's happening is they are blocking traffic now in front of city hall. hold on one second as we walk through this. that's the front of city hall here in chicago. you can see the signs and everyone moving into place here, poppy. this has been a very fluid situation because it seems like they just take off running at any moment and sort of block traffic and make sure everything is backed up. i heard from one of the officers call for some tactical units so we have more officers coming our
way now. to make sure the streets are safe. but all traffic is blocked as of right now. >> ryan, stay with me. rosa flores, also our chicago correspondent, on the ground. rosa, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hi, poppy. well, we've been following these protesters for a while now. you can see it's a fairly large group. i can tell you that there's a lot of people who are very angry about what's going on here in chicago. i was just inside a courtroom earlier this morning where a judge decided that in the case of cedric chapman, another black teen here from chicago, that that shooting video was not going to be released. so they are calling for the mayor to release that video as well because we're not just talking about the ronald johnson case, we're not talking about just the lequan mcdonald case, but also this other case. now, from talking to people there, i can tell you that they
were saying, you know, mayor rahm emanuel at city hall is asking for transparency, he is asking for accountability, yet in a courtroom just a few blocks away city attorneys were denying access to this particular video. so here we go again. we see more marches into the city of chicago asking for the resignation of the mayor, is what a lot of these people say. a lot of the signs here are calling for that also. and those are also some of the chants that we're hearing here in chicago. now, these protesters are continuing to move throughout the city, poppy, so we're toing to -- to be moving with them to get their part of the story. >> rosa, let me jump in and ask you, i'm really interested rosa because you've been reporting on this throughout from the release of that lequan mcdonald video to now, can you just tell me what
some of the protefrts are saying? what is the number one thing they want from their city, their police force, their leaders? >> reporter: well, just to show you some of the emotion here, some of these people are very, very emotional, poppy. from being in this community and talking to some of the folks here, they've told me it's difficult to be black in this city because of what they experience. and so those are some of the emotions. they want to make sure that both blacks and whites can be treated equally in this community and that they can be a part of this community and enjoy the city of chicago just like everybody else. now, i'd like to talk to one of the protesters here so you can give us a sense about today. why are you here today specifically? >> because rahm emanuel said
some outrageous damsel in distress on the news today. we're not having that. you know what i'm saying? you covered up a videotape, and we want you tire foofired. not only that, anita alvarez must go no matter what. >> reporter: i've got to ask you, there's a lot of emotion, we're going to keep on moving here, thank you, sir. sorry. if you can keep chatting with me a little bit. i know there's a lot of emotion. there's a lot of anger out here. i know that there's another video, the cedric chapman video. i heard some people were asking for that video to be released as well as. have you heard about that case? are you following that case also? are you asking for that video to be released? >> we're asking for all the videos to be released. you know, enough is enough. i haven't heard about that video yet, but unfortunately i'm going to do research. if you're talking about the young man who was tased to death in the hospital, i've seen that video, and it was extremely
outrageously pissed off about it. i believe that all of these people who was murdered by police needs to find justice. >> reporter: one more thing. you can keep walking with me. i know that one of the things that mayor rahm emanuel was asking for was police accountability. he was calling for transparency. he said, you know, the buck stops with me. do you accept that? would you like for him to stay and try to fix the problem? >> of course not. you know, we already know what he can do behind closed doors. he can hide videos. we're not having that. we don't want no mayor in our city who can hide videos under the rug like that. and then you have a state attorney, anita alvarez, who can make someone look so much as a criminal in front of national tv. that is outrageous, you know.
so we are going to do this all the way to new year's. we're going to bring this protest into the new year until all of those videos is out to the public. >> reporter: thank you so much. i appreciate it. again, poppy, i'm going to flip the camera over here so you can see that people continue to walk the streets of chicago asking for change. poppy? >> you heard him say we're going to do this all to the way to the new year. so much to discuss. rosa flores will stay with these protesters to bring you their stories live. we are going to take a quick break. much more live from chicago. stay with me. this holiday season, get ready for mystery. what's in the trunk? nothing. romance. 18 inch alloys. you remembered. family fun. everybody squeeze in. don't block anyone. and non-stop action. noooooooo! it's the event you don't want to miss. it's the season of audi sales event. get up to a $2,500 bonus
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amassing in the heart of the city in the middle of the workday there, all after chicago mayor rahm emanuel gave a press conference this morning and he apologized for the investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old lequan mcdonald. he spoke again this afternoon directly addressing those protesters. he said basically, i own it, this happened on my watch. he said chicago needs a, quote, painful and honest reckoning. we have reporters on the ground in chicago. are we going to marty savidge? marty, what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, machine machi michigan avenue by millennial park, this is a protest that began around the noon hour. it is all sparked as a result of the ongoing investigations and accusations of police violence. but this one specifically was talking about demanding that the mayor resign, rahm emanuel.
he has found himself in the middle of a political storm on top of a legal crisis in this city. and it appears that initially it was one which he was not quite ready for. today he gave a very strong speech in city council, but for these people here that doesn't seem to be enough despite the commitments that the mayor made. this has been peaceful, but it has been disruptive. it is going through the main thoroughfares in the downtown area of the city of chicago. of course it's a workday. on top of that, there are also many shoppers down here as well. they have been blocking the streets. police have been trying to hold them at least at bay in the sense of keeping the side streets open for traffic so it's been both a traffic nightmare as well as a nightmare city hall probably didn't like to hear as well. there was a time that they all surrounded city hall but to try to defeat the police they continued to be on the move, poppy. they only stop for a few seconds in one place and then move on again blocking the city streets. poppy? >> marty, thank you very much.
martin savidge in the middle of it all. stay with me. i do want to go to jeff zeleny who worked for years in chicago. let's talk about the political side of this. you keep hearing protesters say -- you heard martin say there are calls for rahm emanuel to be ousted, politically that's not how it works. walk us through that. then walk us through rahm emanuel as a leader, someone who today stood in front of city council and said, look, this happened on my watch, i take responsibility. where do we go from here? >> poppy, this is an scexample someone who knows how to execute a crisis. >> jeff, i've got to go to rosa. stay with me. we're seeing a scuffle break out on the streets of chicago. rosa is there. rosa? >> reporter: hi, poppy. well, we are just feet away from where the scuffle is. we're bringing you these live pictures. the convifrontation between som of the protesters and chicago
police. now, what police are doing right here, they're holding protesters beyond michigan avenue. they're pretty much holding traffic to make sure that these protesters don't go onto one of the major avenues here in downtown chicago. you know, we've seen this before in some of the other protests that have happened where protesters get up close to police. and so far there's been -- in the past few weeks -- a few protesters get arrested because of this. now, there are a few protesters here who maybe can give us their account. as we're seeing these pictures of some of the protesters being stopped by police, have you protested before? >> yes. the whole time we're marching around the city of chicago, peaceful protest. that's the way it's supposed to be. but they cut off our march. they're the one that is creating
the confrontation by cutting us off. if they allow us to peacefully protest like we've been doing the last few hours, this convict frontation doesn't happen. >> reporter: that's one account of one of the protesters. they have been walking down the streets of chicago peacefully demonstrating, asking for the things you've heard before, the resignation of mayor rahm emanuel. they also want the cook county state's attorney to also step down. but right now it looks like the situation just calmed down, poppy. the police still holding protesters from moving into michigan avenue. and from what i can see, poppy, you can tell that these protesters are still trying to confront the police. protesters still trying to break that line so they can get onto michigan avenue. base md d on the pictures you'r
seeing right now, it looks like protesters are breaking through and they're -- what's happening right now is that protesters have broken through that line of police. and you can see we're crossing michigan avenue right now. and they are crossing over towards millennium park and also turning onto one of the major avenues here in chicago, the michigan mile. so again, poppy, a lot of emotion here in chicago as people ask for justice, ask for politicians to step down, as they look and ask for justice, transparency, police accountability. >> rosa, let's talk about just why this happened today, in your opinion. we saw mayor rahm emanuel speak in front of city authorities
this morning, apologized, saying, i own this. then we just heard him address reporters at a press conference saying, what do you say to these protesters? why is this breaking out today, do you think? >> reporter: well, from talking to some of the protesters, they say that words are not enough. they actually want the mayor to step down, and they said, yes, you've asked for police accountability, you've asked for transparen transparency. but it was under his watch that these videos were not released, the video of the shooting of lequan mcdonald, the shooting of ronald johnson, and there's a lot of anger. people are angry, and they want change in their city. now, what you're seeing right now, poppy, is they're asking for a circle. we've seen this before. what some of these protesters do is they create a circle around one of the major avenues here in chicago, and they block traffic on both sides and sometimes
chant, sometimes sit down and have a sit-down on the street. that's what they've been doing historically in the past few weeks to demonstrate peacefully, to demonstrate and ask for change in their city. >> rosa flores, thank you very much. stay with us on the ground. we have our correspondents across the city of chicago. we are staying on this story. quick break. we're back on the other side with more from chicago. announcer: right now at sleep train,
or choose $300 in free gifts with stearns & foster. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train. all right, we're continuing to follow breaking news out of chicago. we'll get that picture up for you in a moment. there you see very big protests amassing in the heart of chicago in the middle of a busy workday. we have correspondents across chicago for you with the story of what the protesters are saying, what lawmakers are saying and why this is all happening today. ryan young in the middle of it,
ryan, what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, poppy, we're right in the middle of it. i want to show you the crowd. actually standing in the middle of michigan avenue. they're stopping traffic. the police department has allowed them to create this circle because at first they were going to try to block folks from having the circle. that now is happening. i want to show you the sign as well. people are carrying signs like this one showing cases from the past where they want the spotlight to be on because obviously you can see people are still carrying their pain. lots of people have been in the neighborhood fighting for quite some time who want to see change. when you see the crowd like this, look, you've been a community activist for so long. what does it feel like today to see everyone doing what they're doing? >> i'm proud of these young people because they're expressing their outrage with the system. the mayor said i'm sorry and basically kind of gave the message that we're supposed to trust him with all of the authority. we really want input and selection of a new
superintendent. we also want a real independent civilian police review board that's independent of him. listen, this particular board that he has in place now over the last few years has 400 complaints from police officers. only 4 have been sustained. it is a joke. we need to overhaul and he didn't speak to that. we even want him to go to the city council and submit to a city council investigative hearing. what do you know? did you suppress those tapes for 13 months? was there $5 million hush money? we have a lot of questions. >> reporter: when you talk about questions, you talking about remaining peaceful, you talk about -- >> i'm very happy with that. these young people are intelligent. they're not turning this city upside down. they really also are expressing some frustration with our city councilmen. some people are not black caucus who are supposed to represent these young people. they basically got up and said, thank you, mr. mayor, and sang
kumbaya, kissed and made up because it's not enough. >> reporter: was it enough what the mayor said? what do you feel about that? >> the mayor was a major disappointment. the mayor really frustrated me. i told him personally if he wanted to gain some credibility in the grassroots, he had to do something substantively. all he wants to do is parade this blue ribbon task force around that he has hand-picked. and he has no more authority right now, and he wants us to accept their recommendations and there's nobody from our community that's on that task force. there's no lou meyer, there's no flint taylor. >> reporter: the last thing is, you can feel the pain as people walk together, people have been walking up to talk to him as well. as the protesters are pushing north on michigan avenue headed toward the magnificent mile, poppy. >> ryan, thank you very much. bringing us the words of the protesters, why they're doing this, what they want to see. let's get some context.
ton text is very important in all of this. no one better to talk to than jeff zeleny, cnn political reporter who covered chicago for years on the ground. can you talk to us, jeff, about rahm emanuel as the mayor, the release of this tape, why it took 400 days. he was running for reelection. there are so many questions now as some people call for him to step down. but we all know who rahm emanuel is. this isn't someone who goes quietly. >> no question about that. and i do not expect rahm emanuel it to step down, knowing what we know right now. but you can see on the ground there as they're walking up michigan avenue from south michigan avenue up to north michigan avenue, this is going to create a disruption, and it's really near city hall. rahm eman bell is seeing and watching this. but look, i think what we saw today was i mayor who knows how to deal with crisis at the highest levels. of course, he has served in the white house as chief of staff. he worked for bill clinton in the white house. i think he's not stalling at this point in terms of apologizing. but for the people of chicago it
is, for many people, too little too late. he is going to do major reforms and bring in this community here in the hiring of a new police superintendent. and this is a city that has been divided along racial lines for many, many years, and he was reelected on a promise to sort of unify. but rahm emanuel does not have a lot of goodwill across the broader spectrum of chicago. it's his hometown. he's from chicago. he was a congressman on the city's north side. but it is a city that has changed since he's been away in washington, and it is a city that he's going to struggle to unify here i think. but a test of any mayor, of any leader, is how they come together in a crisis like this. rahm emanuel has been through many of them. i certainly think that he is well equipped to try and deal with this. but he needs to bring community leaders obviously to his side and get some help from them. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very
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breaking news out of chicago, you're looking at live pictures in the heart of the city. looks like people are blocking traffic. let's go straight to ryan young who is with them. ryan, set the 16 for us. where are these protesters seated? it looks like they've successfully blocked traffic. >> reporter: well, they have definitely blocked traffic. we're on michigan and whacker to give you a reference. that ace the start of the magnificent mile, the "chicago tribune" building, the shopping areas here in chicago. you see young people have lined
up, blocking everything here before the bridge. they're sitting in a circle. as you can see, all the way back this direction, if you look in the center, you can see they're addressing everyone and the crowd. one of the things they're saying over and over is 16 shots. they're making sure that when they get to every intersection they're saying 16 shots. people have also expressed the fact that the words of rahm emanuel didn't touch them as much as maybe some people thought they would. they are still very angry and upset about what happened. look, you're upset. you're here. why march and why block the road? >> no justice. no peace. >> reporter: how do you feel about what happened to lequan mcdonald? how do you feel about the movement so far? >> we need a systematic change. the whole system -- can i curse? >> reporter: no. we're live on tv. >> the whole system is in shambles. we need a revolution. >> reporter: i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> reporter: there are obviously people with emotion. they want to express themselves. you see what's going on here.
we have people who believe there's a cover-up that's been going on for months. we heard people from city council almost all the council members talking about expressing themselves, people talking about how they've been profiled, even talking about the fact there's two cities, one on the north and then the rest of the city. they wanted to see equal policing throughout the city of chicago. they want to merge the city. so many people talk about the segregation going on in this city. that's something we heard from city council members, in a very emotional plea made. you see the folks in the crowd here who are now addressing the public and walking along. this has stayeds, as we've said so far, very peaceful. they just made an announcement, please do not attack the cars. do not attack the cars. you see there a's peacefulness here. >> ryan young, thank you. rosa flores another of our correspondents ocean. rosa last we were with you were talking with protesters in
another part of chicago. now they're seated just like the protesters where ryan is. >> reporter: you know, i want to introduce you to a family, poppy. there are a few families marching with their children. i was just talking to ebony just moments ago. she was telling me why she was marching with her children and why it was important for her to do that. >> yes. my son actually wants to be part of cpd in the future, and this is not the legacy i want him to follow up behind. i'm not saying all cops are bad. but the ones that actually make other ones look bad. one bad april will spoils the bunch. i don't want him to believe this isn't the job for you. this is the job for you. you have the compassion, the empathy to be what cpd is. you're the formula, the future of cpd. >> reporter: you tell me, you said you wanted to ed be a pol officer. why did you change your mind? >> i felt like because of the legacy with the misfortune, the
controversy, i thought maybe i should take my compassion and empathy elsewhere. i have found success in the medical field, a respiratory therapist of nine years. >> reporter: we've seen the video of lequan mcdonald, ronald johnson, philip coleman as well. as a citizen of this city, what does it mean to you to see those videos, to see the controversy around them as well? >> it's very disgusting. it hurts to be a citizen of chicago and to be part of a police department that calls this -- it just really hurts. it really hurts. it makes me fear for my own children because my son is 15 years old. i also have a 5-year-old son. i feel like the police officers are the criminals. they will be the ones to take my son's life before actually gang members or somebody else with a gun in their hands. >> reporter: ebony, thank you for your sharing your story. we should add that, poppy, in the past eight weeks we've seen the mayor of chicago ask the
superintendent of police to step down. we've seen him ask the independent police review authority head to step down. he welcomed the doj to come into chicago and investigate the police department, investigate use of force. right now there's an investigation by the doj under way to investigate use of force in the city and also other practices surrounding the police department. and everybody here we've talked to has said, that's wonderful, that's great, but we want more. >> rosa, before i let you go, i know they want more from their mayor. we want to hear more. they want more action. let's also remember the context of this. this is president obama's hometown. this is a city that many people cheered his election almost eight years ago now alongside him rahm emanuel at the time. how do they feel on a national level? >> reporter: say that again, poppy. it's a little difficult for me to hear. >> you know, i'm going to get a break in.
we'll be back. more with you on the other side. i do have some breaking news. we'll talk about that in a moment. breaking news involving the san bernardino killers. what the friend who's under investigation right now allegedly -- who allegedly purchased two of those guns used in the attack, what they told investigators about another plot planned on u.s. soil in 2010. a live report on that next. stay with me. capital to support an important cause that can change the way you live for years to come. how can you help? by giving a little more, to yourself. i am running for my future. people sometimes forget to help themselves. the cause is retirement, and today thousands of people came to race for retirement and pledge to save an additional one percent of their income. if we all do that we can all win. prudential bring your challenges®
may have been tied to them. i want to go straight to cnn justice correspondent pamela brown. this is huge when it comes to the role expanding, it appears, of enrique marquez, right, pamela? >> reporter: that's right. this is the friend and former neighbor of syed farook who we have known and talked about, that investigators that interviewed following the ak at thats. we know that he had purchased the two ar-15s in the attack. it's unclear and investigators don't believe at that time had point that he had knowledge of the san bernardino attacks, but we're learning poppy that he told investigators about the 2012 plot that have becnn was f report about, that he and syed farook back in 2012 had selected a target and then were going to launch an attack, but the two got spooked after there were four terror-related arrests in that area unrelated to what they were doing. and as a result, they decided to abort their plans.
so enrique marquez, this friend of froarook, telling fbi investigators this. we have learned he's waived his miranda rights. he's been giving very important information also telling investigators that he had been radicalized with farook as early as 2011. so that gives us more of a timeline as to how far back syed farook had been radicalized. we know, poppy, that the director, james comey, of the fbi, today said in 2015 farook was talking online about jihad with his soon-to-be wife tashfeen malik. but from this friend it seems like his radicalization went back to even further. >> yeah, to 2011 at least. okay, you do have to question, right, pamela, the reliability of this information? that enrique marquez is telling investigators for one clear reason, right? >> that's right. this is an individual who right after the attacks in san bernardino checked himself in to a mental health facility.
officials caution that they're trying to corroborate this, verify the details of what he is telling them but that it could be an attempt to deflect attention if he knew about the attacks in san bernardino. they are trying to figure this all out as we speak. what did he know, what did he not know, is this an attempt at deflection? we want to point out too that we have been withholding his name since last night seeking further comment but decided to come forward with his involvement in that 2012 plot after other media outlets including the "new york times" has reported his name, poppy. >> okay. again, major headline from pamela brown there. much more on this ahead. stay with us for that. pamela, thank you very much for your reporting. quick break, we're back on the other side. more live pictures and reporting from chicago where protests there are heating up. we will bring you a live report next. who wants to try? before earning enough cash back from bank of america to stir up the holidays, before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time
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breaking news out of chicago. protesters amassing in the middle of the city. busy workday, ryan among our correspondents across the area. ryan, what is the latest? >> reporter: i just wanted to bring you this because there was an announcement made to the crowd not to spoil it for anybody but you said just last now what happened in the last ten minute? >> state representative filed a house bill 3456 which amends the state home rule law to allow for a recall of the mayor of chicago. >> reporter: why do you think that action is needed? >> look around. look around. i think the mayor talked about accountability and accountability doesn't have the mayor -- accountability is with these people. as you see these people here
speaking, state rep wanted to speak to these issues. the people came here several weeks ago for black friday, and now it's blue monday or something or tuesday. this isn't going to stop. rahm emanuel can't govern now. and the only reason he is in the position that he is is he was paid $25 million from his supporters to be here. >> reporter: appreciate it. thank you, sir. poppy, back to you. >> ryan, can you just repeat -- ryan, could you just repeat for our viewers what bill was filed? what are they calling for for mayor rahm emanuel? >> reporter: so essentially they wanted to put a house bill in the state so they could repeal or to recall rahm emanuel. they said basically that provision wasn't put out there just yet. this is the first time we've heard of a state representative stepping forward to do this. >> okay. >> reporter: it just happened. the young manmade the announcement right in front of our camera. >> all right. thank you. yeah, we really appreciate that.
sunny hostin with me, danny savls -- >> i think it's interesting sign a bill to get a dually elected mayor to resign from office. look at the sentiment going on in chicago. i know there was a poll published by the illinois observer commissioned by the insider. 55% of chicagoans say rahm emanuel should resign. there appears to be this crisis of confidence when it comes to mayor emanuel. maybe in the interest of this city he does need to resign. a lot of people are talking about a cover-up. we've been hearing a lot about that. let's face it, he was up for re-election in april. this happened the october before. and his administration tried really, really hard to make sure that that video was not released. that's problematic. >> so, danny, we're talking about the video of the shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald, the officer now
charged with murder who shot and killed him. danny, the release of these videos. they typically don't get rele e released ahead of charges being brought, but everything seems to be changing. the scope of what the public is demanding, across the board is changing. >> we are at a fascinating moment in our history because historically for decades if not centuries prosecutors had a system they worked under. that system was we're going to release during that investigation either nothing at all or whatever we feel like. if the public doesn't like it, too bad. and that system has worked very well for them for a very long time up until this moment keeping investigations secret has always worked to the benefit strategically of prosecutors. and now it seems for the first time the public is saying, you know, i'm not so sure we like that situation anymore. it's a fascinating thing to watch because the public is shocked information isn't
released more often. to that you want to say, look, it never has been. prosecutors aren't designed that way. they don't release information or make it public. >> danny, thank you very much. sunny, important expertise. we're going to follow it live for you what's happening on the streets of chicago. i'm going to hand it over to my colleague jake tapper with "the lead." it starts right now. thanks, poppy. breaking news on the san bernardino shooting investigation. some new information on the neighbors ties to terror. "the lead" starts right now. a big development in this terrorist investigation. moments ago u.s. officials telling cnn that the guy who bought the guns for the san bernardino attack was involved in another plot to kill years ago. also, happening right now, chicago's streets flooding with protesters after the mayor apologizes for police corruption and the laquan mcdonald shooting. could this all