tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN December 11, 2015 4:00pm-5:01pm PST
tweet the show at cnnsitroom. thank you so much for watching. i'm brianna keilar. erin burnett starts right now. next, breaking news, the friend of san bernardino shooter sa syed farook admits that they built bombs together. a passport printing machine. donald trump speaking live in this hour. my guest, the top official from the rnc, does the party have a secret plan to stop trump? let's go "outfront." "outfront" tonight, breaking news, a stunning admission from a friend of syed farook, that
they made pipe bombs together. he provided syed with the rifles in the massacre that killed 14 people. he told the fbi that they were hob hobbyists experimenting. fbi divers scouring a lake bed near the site of the san bernardino massacre looking for anything that the shooters may have tossed into the murky water, including a hard drive. kyung lah is "outfront." this is pretty stunning. marquez saying that they were hobbyists that built pipe bombs together? >> reporter: this is a very curious look at this man. he came into the picture because he purchased the two high-powered rifles eventually used in this massacre. also, married to one of farook's relatives. but now this very stunning statement that he and farook built pipe bombs, that even
though he says that these were not bombs that were used in this massacre, that they were not built for that purpose but that they were hobby yiists, it's pertinent here because when authorities did search the farook home in the garage, they found 19 pipes. these were pipes, the fbi says, that could very easily have been turned into bombs. so a very stunning admission. but remember, erin, when he first started to talk to authorities, when he waived his miranda rights, they were trying to verify everything he said. >> this is the second straight day that they have been scouring the lake behind you to try to search for something possibly crucial, maybe that missing hard drive. are they making any progress? you've been watching them the whole time. >> reporter: what we saw is that yesterday they were combing the area a little close to where i'm standing, right at the edge of this manmade lake. they have been moving closer and closer to that foot bridge that you see over my shoulder.
what you're seeing now is this lake is quite still. the divers in the last couple of minutes or so left this lake. they pulled out of the lake and as far as we know this doesn't look like something that they are going to abandon. the fbi says that they are going to be here for days. and what they are looking for is a very meticulous search. they are scouring the very bottom of this lake. they are looking for items that were missing from the farook home. you mentioned the hard drive. it's a hard drive that was missing from the computer inside the home. they are trying to find electronic evidence that helps them build a case, that helps them understand the picture here, the reason why this lake is so important to them, there was a report that the two killers were here on the day of the massacre. erin? >> kyung lah, thank you very much. isis has an extremely new dangerous weapon in its arsenal. the terror group has the capability to create fake
passports, passports reportedly so good they are considered virtually undetectable from the real thing, according to officials. it's a tremendous concern because fake passports were used by two of the bombers in the paris attacks. rene marsh is "outfront." >> reporter: a new intelligence report warns isis has the capability to create fake passports for international travel. >> part of the territory they took over had a building where the syrians passed passports. they have blank passports and the means to print them and fake them. this is obviously another level of concern that we have to pay attention to. >> reporter: u.s. officials are also concerned isis may have access to biographical data and fingerprints for syrian citizens that could be used for i.d.s. >> they are concerned that they have the ability, capability to manufacture fraudulent passports, which is a concern in any setting.
>> reporter: following the paris attacks, investigators found fraudulent syrian passports on two of the terrorists. the u.s. government has since expanded its efforts to flag to other countries suspected documents terrorists could exploit to travel. a syrian refugee in paris told "outfront" just how easy it is to obtain a fake syrian passport. >> 700 euros? >> or less. >> and i could have one of these -- >> by your name, an american name, even an arabic name or any name. >> anything i want? >> your photo, your name, anything you want. >> reporter: state department spokesman john kirby said the department has been tracking the terror group's ability to make passports. >> we have been aware of reports, not just in the press, that they may have maintained this capability.
it's something we take very seriously. >> reporter: erin, these individuals cannot just travel to the united states using a passport alone. they'd need a visa and in order to get a visa, they'd need to be screened by the state department, which includes finger printing. so there are checks and balances in place. that said, a passport is a fundamental travel document. anytime you have fake documents used to circumvent the legal process, that's a major concern. >> a very major concern. in the case of the european terror attacks, they came in with groups of refugees were they were getting much less screening. "outfront" now, fbi special agent jonathan gilliam and counter terror official phil mudd. this is a pretty stunning development. i've been with syrian refugees and they said, i can get you -- 700 euros gets you a passport.
that's pretty scary. >> it is. the clock is ticking and it's a simple application of maturation of isis. even as last summer, what isis is trying to do is focus its attention on the fight of the battlefield at raqqah, focus attention on northern iraq and encourage supporters in places like europe or california to say, go conduct operations. we saw that they trained some people and now we're seeing a passport factory. the reason that i say time is ticking, as isis maintains a safe haven in a place like syria, given the capability to build their own cells of people who can re-enter a place like paris or london or new york and conduct attacks that may be orchestrated not just inspired but orchestrated from syria. unless we can answer the problem of raqqah, we're going to have this for months, years to come. >> which is pretty terrifying
thing. what happened in paris and how that is different from a planning level. you say you were not surprised by the fact that there's a passport factory? >> right. i'm not surprised. this is just proof of the logistics and the effort to move their personnel around. i hate it to break it to everybody, there's nothing new here. we've been talking about this since the day of red sell back in the '80s where s.e.a.l. team 6 created a terrorist unit targeting military bases. they were creating, getting the machines that military i.d.s were made of and creating their own i.d.s. when i was in 2002 to 2005 when i was part of a group similar to that, we found the same things as vulnerabilities. >> we're talking syrian
passports. saying you're a refugee, if you got a syrian passport, that would be the way to do it. what about the risks of getting other passport stuff? you can get a british passport and they don't make you pay until you get into the united kingdom. it actually works on a very sophisticated passport that is a security built in. >> that's right. there's an indication that they are looking for a passport capability going beyond a refugee getting into europe. the commentary this evening is not a surprise. i think that's dead-on. the hardest thing to understand, erin, in this world is what is the adversary thinking. not a surprise that they are trying to build the paper capability to make false passports. what it tells us, though, they are intending to build the capability against the west for years to come. it tells us mindset. a lot of terrorist groups try to
come up with false documents. >> jonathan, we wouldn't have anticipated it a year ago but now with the controversial statement about donald trump about banning muslims until, in his words, they figure it out, do you do anything about it? do you shut the borders? i mean, are these proposals simply crazy? or not. >> they are definitely proposals that we should at least look at. if you're saying something is crazy we we shouldn't even look at it, that's ridiculous. we have to have forward thinking policy makers need to start letting people know how terrorists think and help them set policy. >> phil, the state department just a second ago issued a statement about americans traveling to lebanon in light of
terror threat. these alerts are being put out but it seems that there's a lot of question about what the intelligence really is. are they really able to see what people are doing, even in san bernardino, right? they are still not sure what that electronic trail is. >> there's a couple of differences. we saw global alert issued by the state department. that was a reaction to paris. it has the responsibility for issuing these alerts saying what any of us would have said, be careful when you travel. when you get specificity about a country, that indicates there is more intelligence behind this. the simple story is lebanon is the country supporting the militias backing bashar al assad. we saw a major attack sponsored by isis recently and the state is now saying there's going to be more of that. don't go there. i think they have more than a general concern. "outfront" next, live remarks from donald trump in des
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finally be breaking. as every other republican has challenged trump, cruz has watched in silence. coming to trump's defense again and again. >> i like donald trump. he's bold, brash. >> reporter: it's a different story behind closed doors. as cruz talks privately by overtaking trump and ben carson. >> people are looking for who is prepared to be a commander in chief. that's a question of strength but also a question of judgment. and i think that is a question that is a challenging question for both of them. >> reporter: trump pouncing in a tweet. looks like ted cruz is getting ready to attack. i'm leading by so much, he must. i hope so. he will fall like all others. will be easy. forcing cruz to quickly downplay his remarks tweeting "the establish's only hope trump and me in a cage match. sorry to disappoint. donald trump is terrific." the latest squirmish comes with republicans wondering whether
they can stop trump. making plans for a contested contention this week in washington. the republican national committee said there was no reason for worry. but the cruz/trump tussle is a sign that the race is entering a new and volatile phase. until now, their relationship has been a mutual admiration society. >> i'm very glad donald trump is in this election. i like donald trump. >> well, it's a little bit of a romance. i like him. he likes me. he's backed me 100%. >> in september, the two rivals were even seen embracing at a rally against the iran nuclear deal. and in july, a private meeting at trump tower. but all along, trump was waiting for a fight. >> he's been so supportive but at some point he's going to have to hit me. it is going to be a sad day but it will happen. i promise. >> reporter: that day may be nearing. and that is one of the dynamics that we're going to be watching at that republican debate next tuesday in las vegas. ted cruz and donald trump.
don't expect ted cruz to take on donald trump aggressively during that debate. he knows that it's a big time audience may not be the best time and ted cruz has enough and the debate may change but the dynamic of this. look what happened to ted cruz talking to them. that's where the business is being done in this republican primary campaign. erin? >> jeff zeleny, thank you. "outfront" now, shawn spicer, the chief strategist and communications director for the republican national committee. shawn, you heard ted cruz saying trump doesn't have the judgment to be president. is he right? >> that's not up to me to decide. it's up to our voters. they are going to make the case to and they will decide what they are looking for in a candidate and at the end we'll
have a nominee. >> it might be pretty difficult. aid cording to "the washington post," i want to quote them on this very issue. several long-time republican brokers say that the controversial billionaire storms through the primaries, the party's establishment must lay the ground work for a lower fight in which the mainstream wing could coalesce around an alternative. we're talking about a giant fight on the floor. is that a plan you support if donald trump does storm through the primaries? >> okay. well, there's three things there. number one, 1236 winner nomination. and contested contention and the delegates that the voters have selected will decide and that's how the process works. it's the delegates that are selected by the voters that will
decide this. no one in washington, no one at the rnc. this is a decision that voters make. last, if i can dial back some of this intrigue that occurred, that "the washington post" reported, and there's political-type people that get together and talk about politics and legislation, topics of the day and halfway through a two-hour dinner, the discussion turned to, let's talk about the rules of the nomination process. what's the difference between a proportional state and how the process works and rules of the committee and that's basically what this was. a dinner conversation. >> shawn , a new poll shows 54% of republicans support ban on this issue. >> what i support is the fact
that i think there are a lot of people in this country that have grown increasingly scared about their security. the number one job of any commander in chief is to protect this country and i think americans are fearful. you look at the threat that it has posed overseas with isis and now the threat that we're seeing in san bernardino last week between france and that, i think rightly so, americans are scared and they need leaders that are going to put america's security first and foremost. so i think in lieu of a plan, people are scared and want to know that the next president of the united states is doing that. >> of course, the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus, condemn him and we need to take on the expense of values. it doesn't sound like 54% of
your -- >> hold on. what i'm saying is the chairman understands the context that the comments were made in, which is trying to protect america. he doesn't agree that we can ban a religion from entering this country. but the bigger point in all of this is under the currented, administration, there's a lack of a feeling that there's a plan to protect this country and the chairman was saying being simply put, i don't agree with donald trump's particular proposal but understands the context that right now americans are craving someone to come forward and lead our country with a plan to make it secure. that's not occurring. so while we can disagree about the particular plans and tactics, i think all of the republicans that will take to the stage on tuesday agree that the current plans laid out by this administration are not sufficient to protect america and we need a commander in chief that puts america's security first and foremost. >> sean, donald trump has felt that he has not been treated fairly in many ways by the republican establishment. he says that if he keeps feeling that way, he would leave the gop
as an independent if he doesn't get the respect he feels he deserves from party leaders like yourself. do you care if he decides to leave? if one day he says, i'm going to leave? would you care, knowing, of course, it would cost the republicans the election? >> of course i care. because of exactly what you just said. every single republican -- and first of all, i listened extensively to what you said, no intention to leave, going to run as a republican and intends to win and unless he's treated unfairly, he's being completely treated fairly, as if all of the candidates are. i fully expect him to continue to run as a republican. he is a very, very smart man as all of our candidates. and understand, as all of them do, if we are not united as a party, we are handing hillary clinton keys to the white house and it's paramount to why we are running. so there's no question, in my mind, that donald trump would remain a republican because we
would treat him fairly as all candidates and be united as a party and take over the white house this november. >> sean spicer, thank you. >> thank you, erin. have a great weekend. and "outfront" next, this live rally. this is in des moines, iowa. donald trump is expected to be speaking at any moment. do you know the secret to a happy home in these modern times?
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right now, donald trump is about to take the stage at the campaign rally you see on your screen in des moines, iowa. live pictures in this key first voting state of the rally. we'll hear what trump will say about the controversy over his proposal to temporary ban muslims from entering the united states, a proposal that many republican leaders are slamming. 54% of relationshpublican voter support. you've been talking to voters. what are they telling you about why they support the plan? >> reporter: erin, when you talk to voters, you really get a
sense of the disconnect between the republican base and republican party leadership. to a person, the voters here we've been speaking with either support the plan or say they can turn away from donald trump. this is more of a town hall setting. he does that very little. we'll see if any questions come up on the proposal. but the enthusiasm is very significant. most of the voters we're talking to said he is their top choice but others say there are other alternatives and the other name that comes up again and again in conversations is ted cruz. there's no question that ted cruz has been gaining here. he's rising here. he may be on the cusp of overtaking donald trump. so for the next month of this campaign, the next 52 days of this campaign, it will be at
least it looks right now, a ted cruz and donald trump match here. it will be interesting to watch those two making their distinctions on policy as well as style and electability. >> it's going to be an incredible showdown. of course, as we're awaiting donald trump, the visit comes as ted cruz is rising and within striking distance of trump in iowa. "outfront" now, the president and ceo of the leader, national spokesman for the trump campaign, katrina wilson and cnn political commentator, host of the ben ferguson show, ben ferguson. donald trump has been the voetders liked it, you endorsed ted cruz. you just heard jeff zeleny saying to a person at a trump rally, that's crucial, but they support his plan on banning muslims or doesn't turn them
away. what made you choose cruz, not trump? >> well, first of all, ted cruz is a comprehensive conservative, a principled leader. i think everybody would say he has a titanium spine, delivers a very clear message and the more people listen to him, the more people are drawn to him. that's why you're seeing conservatives unite around ted cruz and you'll continue to see that in iowa and i believe across the country. so we look forward to this race and this is not against trump this is for ted cruz. >> but there has to be something about donald trump you didn't like, bob. what was it? >> donald trump is a great friend of mine but it's what i really like about ted cruz. i believe ted cruz is the leader that we need at this -- these uncertain times, especially with paris, san bernardino and others. national security, border security, they want somebody to deliver a clear message and when they know what is going on.
>> katrina, do you get worried when somebody says those are the issues he cares about and chooses ted cruz when those are the issues that donald trump has made as the core of his campaign? >> no, not at all. and i'm thrilled that it's ted cruz and donald trump. those are the two most hated by the republican establishment so they are both in good company, in my opinion. there is this division. there are a lot of conservatives supporting senator cruz because he's a strong conservative who can move legislation. many people like the fact that he's a lawyer and is good on policy. and then there's a flip side, when someone is looking for a war time commander, business experience, someone that signs a paycheck and understands what it means to feed a family and donald trump has all of those aspects. so there is a divide there. >> you have ted cruz surging in iowa. that's significant endorsement. so is iowa.
is it his to lose? >> it's his to win at this point. look, it's going to be a very big, intense battle. donald trump goes after anyone surging, will do everything that he can to beat them right back down to where they came from, we saw this with ben carson. >> he's successful with that. whether it's coincidence or -- >> yes. and so get ready, if you're ted cruz and ted cruz campaign, you're about to get the wrath of donald trump coming after you. the question is, with the voters in a smaller place where they really pay attention like this, will donald trump, if he comes down so hard close to an election day, will that turn voters off to donald trump? and i think that's going to be a much harder test for him than beforehand when we were so far away from a voting day. these voters have been paying attention and when they get down to it, if you cross that line with decorum, if you pass that line with respect, i think that could backfire for donald trump in a big way.
>> bob, in 2008, you endorsed mike huckabee. in 2010, santorum. they both won iowa. you called the state and got it right. the problem is, neither one of those people got the nomination. so does that suggest that iowa republicans are getting it wrong, that iowa does not reflect the nation and iowa obviously is not going to be the indicator for the nomination? >> what they lacked is the resources to really go the distance. everybody knows that ted cruz is a disciplined, very focused candidate. he's got the infrastructure and resources. not only to win iowa but i believe to do extremely well in the early states in the s.e.c. primary. >> can donald trump afford to
lose iowa? if whoever wins iowa doesn't win the nomination, does it matter to donald trump if he loses? >> well, if donald trump wants to win iowa. ted cruz is a very good politician and has a great political platform. i think donald trump is going to win iowa and the thing about donald trump, he's far, far ahead in new hampshire. he's ahead in south carolina, florida, you name it. senator cruz has to win iowa to stay viable. >> i don't think he has to win to stay viable. when you set yourself up every time you walk on stage to talk about how great you are in the polls and how you're leading every poll and every poll shows that you're the guy and every poll is telling everybody that you're amazing and if you lose the first one coming out, there's no one to blame but yourself for setting that expectation level so high up for the cruz campaign. i don't understand why he's been doing that. because most candidates lose at some point in a primary. and if you are always talking
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quote this, it forces people who want to asimulate who see themselves as having multiple identities into a single box, muslim-americans, the broad customer community will know them less and trust them less. what repercussions could this have? >> you know, when i've traveled around the world, when i grew up in india, you look at the balkans in 1990s and iraq in the civil war, the communities that live together very peacefully, you know, there would be occasional problems. but what happens is when politicians come and stoke the differences, reminding people that there's a minority, be suspicious of them, neighbors start suspecting each other. the tensions start to build, communities separate and it take as spark to create some kind of, you know, violence or a very nasty process when you take groups that have lived together and rather than helping them
integrate, you actually rip them and part. >> president obama supports a bill barring anyone from iraq, sudan, anyone who has visited those countries in the past five years from coming to the united states without a visa. they would be getting extra screening. the bill does not say muslims specifically but that's the point of the bill. so it doesn't say muslims like trump does but isn't that the same thing cloaked in more politically correct wording? >> this is a special program where people get in without visas and it's fair to say that people from war zones shouldn't have made that blanket exemption. but the core issue here is this. a lot of the people who are going to flee the conflict in syria or iraq are christ fens, minorities persecuted, fleeing isis because isis is their families because these people don't like isis. these are hardly the most suspicious people in the world. now, of course, there should be a vetting process and because there's a special issue here
where they don't have the visas, it's appropriate. but the idea of lumping all of these people together as if we don't have the ability to vet, strikes me as strange. we do a lot of vetting. the irc, international rescue communities said the u.s. does the gold standard for vetting. getting a visa into the u.s. is hard even applying for the recent waivers is hard. so there's a way to do this without alienating large groups of people. >> you wrote in another recent column that 48 million muslims could be to radicalization. that's a very small number but
it's 48 million people and muslims in this case. so if you're not going to make it about religion at all, if it's only going to be about behavior, do you fear that that is being too politically correct or not? >> again, you talk to people at customs and they all say the same thing, if you use racial religious profiling, you're casting too wide a net. there are so many -- 1.6 billion muslims in the world. the second largest religion in the world. if all muslims are suspect, you start with a group of 1.6 billion people. you're much better off saying let's look at where they have traveled is absolutely fair game. you know, whether there is evidence of radicalization. we have metadatas and know people have made phone calls and such. those things are much more successful at actually finding terrorists. again, you talk to the israelis, the israelis will tell you that
the way -- i'm not saying profiling is bad but based on suspicious behavior is much more effective than based on race, ethnicity and religion. >> fareed zakaria, thank you very much. >> pleasure. and "outfront" next, in the wake of the san bernardino massacre, more americans are saying that you are your own best line of defense in a mass shooting. our special report. and a new episode of morgan sperlock, why he is twerking and what question strumped him. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid.
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ahemericans are more fearfu of an attack now than 9/11. some believe it is very or likely to happen in the next few months. there is a controversial idea how to tackle the problem. >> the on thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: a florida sheriff with a video that's gone viral. >> it is time to stop reacting and instead proactively engage anyone who threatens harm through terrorism or mass kills. >> reporter: wayne ivy is the man behind the video, which has had more than 4.5 million views since it was posted on facebook sunday. his message, echoed by other top cops around the country.
>> stop the killing before cops arrive. >> to have someone there to bring the fight to the attacker will help save lives. >> reporter: all of those sheriffs reacting to the recent mass shootings in paris and san bernardino. on social media, some are praising sheriff ivy's video writing this is the best, most honest message i've heard from the head of a police agency. sheriff ivy, you're a stand up guy keep up the good work. others seem skeptical. seriously, you want citizens to take up arms? we do not need vigilantes to keep peace. >> we're not asking anybody to be a vigilante but prepared respond to an attack. >> reporter: michelle lull decided to buy her first gun and then saw sheriff ivy's video. >> it made it feel like a smart move. it made it feel like a proactive move. rather than an aggressive move.
>> reporter: lull isn't the only one looking to buy a gun. the fbi is on track to conduct a record number of background checks for guns this year, about 20 million. suggesting an increase in sales. several gun shops in florida tell cnn many of the customers they are seeing are people who have never owned a firearm. >> mostly they are just afraid and, you know, they are afraid that they may have never wanted to buy a gun before. they had no intention of buying a gun and now, it's something that is high on their mind. >> reporter: lull, a single mother of two teens has never fired a gun or even been to a shooting range. still, she says she has an idea of what she might buy. >> little pink handgun that will empower me personally and help me to protect my family. i'd rather have the ability to do something if faced with that horrible situation than to simply duck. >> reporter: lull plans to take
her first shots at a range similar to this one as part of a beginner's course so she prob m properly learns how to use the gun. the sheriff's office is offering an advanced gun course and they have so much interest, they had to add sessions early next year. >> incredible. thank you very much. just a stunning story. next, our new quiz show, you'll see what happens when morgan spurlock is asked about famous americans. see if you know the answer. the possibility of a flare swas almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc.
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>> or we sabotage. [ cheers ] >> i'm the dumb one. >> sure berman has won, what, two times. >> no one wants john berman to win again, no one. >> our best chance with berman is a tonya hearting situation. >> cnn's inside morgan spurlock is one of the six quizzed and here with me now. all right. [ laughter ] >> this is stressful. i did it once and once was enough for me because it's kind of terrifying. >> yeah, you watch game shows like that's easy, i'll go on the show, that's great. i'll kill this show. it will be fantastic. >> no, you get there and you're like there is only downside here. let me ask you, was there anything that stumped you? >> no, the worst part, when you watch the show, here is the best part, you see the moment something my brain decides to stop working and the question i was stumped on is i couldn't remember sarah palin's name. and it's sarah palin. >> the nervousness. i know that, i know that. i know that. >> it's like my brain isn't giving it to me. you can see on the show where my
brain stopped. unbelievable. >> we do have video. >> do we want to see this? >> yeah. >> that's me getting my quiz show funk on. we're getting ready. we're working it, twerking it, getting ready. this was right before my brain gave in. this is before my brain said no, we're done, we're done. not working for you. >> this is the sarah palin moment. >> this is right before my sarah palin moment, yeah. and he gave a great clue. his clue was crazy alaska and so i should have -- my brain went i know who that is. i seen who that is. i can't tell you who that is. >> the final take away is anderson cooper. he gets to sit there and ask the questions and laugh at other people and judge other people. anderson, one day. >> one day. >> one day you're get yours. >> wait and see cooper. >> morgan, thank you. all right. you can test your knowledge of famous -- look at him smiling like the chester cat, anderson. don't miss cnn's quiz show. it's a great show.
set your dvr to watch the show. "ac 360" with jim sciutto starts right now. good evening i'm jim sciutto in for anderson tonight. kneei growing chaos inside the republican party and serious talk about a brokered convention in cleveland. donald trump is largely the man behind the chaos, of course. we're waiting for him to speak in des moines, iowa. we'll see if he throws a punch at his presidential rival ted cruz he has been hinting all day he might very well do. after months of playing nice on the campaign trail, senator cruz questioned trump's fitness to serve as president in comments he made at a private fundraiser. the audio, however, was leaked. and as i said, trump has signalled he may hit back. with less than two months until the iowa caucuses, mr. trump is still leading in most polls, but it's now also an open secret that republican officials including party chairman reince