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>> nothing. i got 50 cents. it was big back in the day. what did you get? >> i think i got 10 bucks for a front tooth because those are big. >> your parents are very generous. i've got to talk to my mom. i'm mad. thanks, andy. always a pleasure. thanks for join meg today. i'm carol costello. . new poll numbers show ted cruz nipping at donald trump's heels and how do the field feel about the front-runner? half of them say they would be embarrassing if he were president. does donald trump care? new developments in court-martial for bowe bergdahl. could his own words in a podcast be used against him? a texas teen who used the so-called affluenza defense.
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he's on the run and authorities think his mom is by his side. how far can they run? a closer look at the massive manhunt under way. hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. brand-new national poll numbers that paint a picture of the national race and a picture that might leave a trump troubled and a cruz krooning. in this new quinnipiac poll trump is still on top but cruz is surging, just four points behind the front-runner. everyone else, way back. >> that's right, my friend. rubio down to 12%, carson at 10%, christie at 6% and bush with 4%. senior washington correspondent joe johns is taking a closer look at all these numbers. so, joe, what does it all mean? >> reporter: it's one poll. it is a national poll. it still shows donald trump
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leading and also shows the cruz campaign is running strong right now. polls show the lead has stretched to new heights, with some saying more than 40% of republicans support him. quinnipiac's national polling has consistently showed lower support for donald trump than other national phone polls. that seems to be the case in this one. this poll was taken after cnn's debate in las vegas on december 15th. also we should say that ted cruz has been moving up in iowa and has actually overtaken trump there. there's some evidence in an early voting state that would tend to corroborate what this national poll says. despite the fact trump is a front-runner, 50% of american respondents telling quinnipiac they would be embarrassed to have trump as the face of the
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u.s. also note that trump appears to be doing poorly in head-to-head match-ups. clinton, for example, beating him by seven points. bernie sanders by 13. so, a lot to digest there. you're right, it doesn't look as good right now in this poll for donald trump has some of the others have shown. >> trump is still up. ted cruz, though, not unhappy about these poll numbers out today. joe johns, thanks. let's discuss this. as joe said, there's a lot to dissect so let's do that. former communication director for the rnc doug high as well as dav david, scottie hughes and donna brazile. everybody is here, the gang is back together. doug, let's take a look at the top line. ted cruz nipping at donald trump's heels. should donald trump be shaking in his boots? >> a lot of us thought that for a long time.
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this is obviously good news for cruz that he's doing well nationally. as joe alluded to, the good thing is he's doing well in iowa. ted cruz is organized on the ground in iowa. he's going to be able to do really well. it's hard to see how trump is able to translate noise into action. and noise into organization. but if we've learned anything, kate, from the past six months, it's when donald trump has suffered from tough questions. get ready. >> i asked if trump may be troubled. mostly because it was an i wi illiteration. the bottom line is, he's not fading. ted cruz may be shrinking in the margin, but donald trump is right around 27 or 28% in this poll. that is a formidable number. that is a number not to be trifled with. that is a number that doesn't seem to go away no matter what. >> no matter what.
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even if he were to lose iowa to cruz, they are very loyal supporters and i don't think donald trump collapses. it is a real number. not only did he have a good debate performance, which we discussed last week. now i think this pivot to taking on hillary clinton, this is exactly what republican voters want to see. not just donald trump supporters. more broad republican voters want to see their front-runner showing how you take the fight to their collective enemy. that's what he's doing right now. >> the other candidates would love to be focusing on hillary clinton but they have other concerns. they need to take care of donald trump first. a very important point brought on by doug, and i compliment you very sparingly, scottie says the outrage du jour.
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here is what he said about hillary clinton last night. >> i'm watching the debate and she disappeared. i know where she went. it's disgusting. i don't want to talk about it. don't say it. it's disgusting. she was going to beat obama. i don't know who would be worse. i don't know. how does it get worse? but she was favored to win and she got -- she lost, she lost. >> he said it quietly as if he knew what he was saying was not appropriate to be saying. but maybe it is appropriate in your view. what is your take, are you okay with your candidate saying that about hillary clinton or any candidate? >> let me just say it's not the choice of words i would use, but to be honest with you, right now we're in a very good place. you've got donald trump, number one. ted cruz, number two. the conservatives are leading the gop, something we've been screaming we would.
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i disagree, doug. i don't think you'll see a brouhaha out of mr. trump on this. why? because he respects senator cruz. we've seen what some might term as a bromance between the two but basically they agree on the same things. their people believe in the same thing. i don't think you'll see this brouhaha. i think if anything we'll see a real debate amongst conservatives about who would be the better candidate, which will be respectful. as for the language mr. trump uses, listen, he graduated from one of the best business schools, wharton school of business. if he wanted to talk academia, he could. but his conversation is to blue-collar workers, the heart beat of america. and he uses language they sometimes use. >> i don't think they taught on that at wharton. to be clear, he wasn't using that language about ted cruz. he was using it about hillary clinton. donna, we have a response now from the clinton campaign. jennifer put out a tweet -- she claims she's not responding but
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a nonresponse response. she says we're not responding to trump but everyone who understands the humiliation this degrading language inflicting on all women should. #imwithher. the clinton campaign not responding directly. i don't think they mind n a way, this discussion right now, donna. >> well, look, to the extent secretary clinton or her staff or senior people need to respond to donald trump, let me say this, he buys by the gallon. there's one thing we know about donald trump and we've seen it throughout the years that he's willing to insult anyone, everyone, in fact, in order to make his point. i don't know if he's really rallying blue-collar workers or they're just animated with the fact that he's quite entertaining. the fact is, and everyone knows this, 40 days from now, people have to actually get out of their homes and go to a community center or church basement or labor union hall and
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they have to stand up and declare their support. that's what matters. can donald trump get his supporters out on a cold, wintry day? i hope it will be cold by february 1st. but that's where the rubber meets the road. >> but why wouldn't the hillary clinton campaign respond to this? what's the thinking here? >> because, look -- >> you can yell at me. are they afraid to respond and come after him? >> seriously? democrat as frad of donald trump? we don't play that on our side. we're not afraid of anyone, including donald trump, ted cruz, mr. rubio, mr. carson and all the rest of them. i don't think that's the issue. the issue is hillary has to also focus on winning the democratic primary, assuring she can get voters out to the caucus on february 1st and again to get voters to go out on february 9th in new hampshire and south carolina, nevada. it's about, you know, accruing delegat delegates, as dave knows. unless you can get out there and
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get people to stand up for their caucus or go out on a wintry day in new hampshire, this is all entertainment. before christmas, what i enjoyed about the donald trump rally last night, to the extent i watched a few minutes, they had nice christmas music. thank god we got something other than his voice. >> let me just point out. make no -- >> okay. i want to ask doug a question right now about what some people are saying is a conspiracy theory. my favorite theory in the race is that donald trump and hillary clinton are helping no one more than each other. that this new feud between donald trump and hillary clinton really is terrific for both of them. you heard for donald trump it elevates him above the rest of the republican field. he says, i'm taking on hillary. and for hillary engaging donald trump allows donald to say, look, hillary hates me, which means i must be the best republican, which means she could face him in the general election. >> i don't buy much into
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conspiracy theories. i certainly don't think this is. but hillary clinton's team will tell you they love taking on donald trump. donald trump is somebody who said hillary clinton would be a great secretary of state. he has been fantastic to hillary clinton as a candidate. they would have maybe not a bromance but something to where they're each building each other up is exactly the conversation either one of them wants to have. >> what do you -- >> the invitation to the wedding, huh? >> hold on one second. david, let me bring you in on this one. this is a number i find quite fascinating. when asked in the quinnipiac poll, how do you feel if donald trump were president, this is the number donald trump moved away on. 50% of those asked said they would be embarrassed if he were president. >> here's the note of caution i have on that question. obviously, that's not a good number. no one wants to wake up and find out half the country would be embarrassed. remember way back in june when he announced for president. a huge slew of republicans said
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they would never consider donald trump to be the nominee. he was unfavorable and favorable numbers were completely upside down with republicans. he's turned them around. he's focused on the republican nomination race right now. i bet if donald trump makes it to be the nominee of the party he'll turn those numbers around when he focuses on the general election. >> we should note only 20% of republicans say they're embarrassed by trump. that's the group that matters right now. >> that's what we offer you here at this hour. >> 59% -- >> go ahead. >> okay. i've been nice. i've been polite. >> i have to interrupt because i think we're getting a news conference from ft. bragg right now on this hearing, this initial court appearance by bowe bergdahl. the news conference happening right now to tell us what happened. let's listen in. >> ongoing legal proceeding. i will not be taking your questions at this time. today army judge convened an article 39-a arraignment hearing, december 22nd, on ft. bragg in the case of u.s. army
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versus sergeant robert b. bergdahl. the military judge discussed the rights held by the accused, inquired on the record regarding current military counsel and civilian counsel. sergeant bergdahl indicated he was satisfied with his defense counsel. the judge explained sergeant bergdahl's right to be tried before a panel or a military judge. the judge also inquired if sergeant bergdahl wished to enter any motions or a plea at this time. sergeant bergdahl deferred all of these decisions to a later hearing. colonel frederickson also announced army colonel jeffrey r nance has been for all further hearings and the next date for hearing will be january 12, 2016, here on ft. bragg. this concludes our statement.
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thank you. >> that was colonel daniel king of army public affairs talking about the initial court appearance by army sergeant bowe bergdahl on these charges of desertion and also putting his colleagues in danger right now. happened a little more than an hour ago. >> let's get over to nick valencia. he was in the courtroom during this appearance. he's on the phone with us now. nick, tell us a little more about what we've learned here from the colonel, what you saw and heard in the courtroom. >> reporter: good morning, kate. it was a relatively brief arraignment. we expected it to be very expeditious and that's what we got. it was ten minutes in total the arraignment lasted. bergdahl walked in with his eyes downcast. his head was shaved so short you can see a small scar on the right side of his head. also interestingly enough, there were some hash marks on his right sleeve, which we're told by a military source represents
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each six months that a soldier is deployed in an active war zone. i mentioned he was dressed in his military attire. clean-shaven. he said nothing. just had a few whispers with his co-counsel, defense counsel, as he waited for the judge. once the judge got into the courtroom, about 10:01, the arraignment was very fast. the judge asked him a series of questions to which bergdahl responded, sir, yes, sir. he deferred to enter his plea. he deferred, as you heard the colonel say, whether or not he wanted a judge -- a trial, i should say, by a judge or a trial by a jury of his peers. part of this entire controversy is the type of court-martial is he facing. preliminary hearing, the presiding officer recommended a special court-martial that would have carried a maximum one year in custody but top brass at the army had a different idea. they decided not to follow the recommendation and they pursued these charges against him. one is desertion and the other is misbehavior in front of the enemy, which could carry a life in prison sentence.
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interestingly enough and curiously enough comes after a new audio was released in i popular podcast called serial where we hear bergdahl in his own words why he decided to leave that day. that's caused a lot of chatter. not just across the country and news rooms but with military sources we've spoken to. it's no secret a lot of his platoon members were deeply furious at the fact that bergdahl walked off his base. they felt they were -- you know, can only count on the person to their left, to the right and bergdahl left them. there's been a lot said among those in his troops, especially in those podcasts. bergdahl's next hearing is expected to be on january 12, 2016, here in ft. bragg as well. and we heard in this courtroom that he does not have to physically be in this hearing. that government motion hearing will be the next thing for sergeant bowe bergdahl in this series of dramatic events that have happened since his release since taliban captivity where he spent five years.
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kate? >> nick valencia for us who was in the courtroom right now, who is at ft. bragg, reporting on this initial court appearance by bowe bergdahl. again, one of the key questions is how will this podcast, where we hear bowe bergdahl's voice for the first time since this incident took place, how will that factor into these court proceedings? we're going to ask an army lawyer coming up next. >> we'll be right back. here's a little healthy advice. eat well, live well, and take of what makes you,
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and you will remember, he was released in that controversial exchange for taliban detainees last year. >> joining us now to discuss is a major in the j.a.g. corp of the army national guard. thanks for joining us. his next court appearance is january 12th. where are we in this case? >> it's just the beginning. the arraignment is beginning. so today is basically his first appearance before the court. >> a lot of folks say, we've been hearing about this for a long time. >> it's really a function of procedurally the way the military criminal justice system works. >> there's something called an article 32 hearing akin to what a preliminary hearing would be in the civilian justice system. after that the article 32
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hearing officer makes recommendations to the commanding general who is the one who decides what will happen to the soldier, what charges will be brought. you had the article 32 hearing officer actually recommend something less than a general court-martial. they recommended a special court-martial, akin to a civilian misdemeanor trial. the commanding general in this case overrode that decision and said, no, we want this soldier going forward, we want a full-blown court-martial and he's facing a potential life sentence. >> there's so much unusual about this case. the high-profile nature, the fact he was a prisoner for five years. the original investigating officer was overruled by the commanding officer, and then there is also this podcast, this long interview, with bowe bergdahl. >> 25 hours. >> that just started airing last week before this announcement. how will that play into this proceeding? >> it's going to give his defense attorneys -- probably is doing so already. the reality is that could play
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heavily in these proceedings. everything is he saying during the course of these 25 hours or what have you with the podcasts are arguably admissions of the party opponent. extra judicial statements that are exceptions to the hearsay rule. long story short is they can use his words against him in this trial, same way as if he were speaking to military investigators during an interrogation. inevitably he's saying things that will be construed as admissions that are going to hurt him and be introduced by the prosecution during the course of this court-martial. >> so unusual. just getting under way and he could face potentially life in prison. tom, thanks. >> thanks for having me. coming up, new details on the mother who had her 3-year-old in the car with her when she rammed into crowds of people. on the las vegas strip. just a few years ago, though, she was in an inspirational video talking about how her life had been turned around.
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this was about troubled kids turning their lives around. what sparked this very dark turn? plus, the fight to retake a key city from isis. the iraqi forces claim they are moving in and dropping bombs. this amidreports the terror group is using human -- civilians as human shields. we have new information on the operation to reclaim ramadi. here's a little healthy advice. eat well, live well, and take of what makes you, you. right down to your skin with aveeno® aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion with the goodness of active naturals® oat and 5 vital nutrients for healthier looking skin in just one day. healthy skin equals beautiful skin. and for shower softness, add the body wash, too! aveeno® naturally beautiful results®
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she mowed down dozens of people with her car on the las vegas strip. investigators say it was no accident. one person is dead, 37 others
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injured. but long before that horrific scene, 24-year-old lakeisha holloway was something of a poster child for turning around her life. in 2012 she shared her life in a video that helps at-risk kids. >> i'm not the same scared girl i used to be. i'm a mature woman who has broken many generational cycle that those before me hadn't. being homeless and on my own taught me how to stand on my own two feet. >> how do we get from this video to what we saw in las vegas this week? cnn's ryan young is there. ryan, what happened? >> reporter: john and kate, i can honestly tell you, after just getting off the phone with a family spokesperson, they have the same question. they want to know exactly what happened and how this could possibly happen. we actually talked to a doctor who was out here that night and saw the people as they were being hit. talked about the rush to get over there to try to help them out. and the long time it took for
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emergency crews to arrive because how packed the strip was. from what we're being told, they believe this woman was driving from washington state, maybe to texas, to catch up with the father of her child. at some point she tried to get some sleep. several security guards had kicked her out of several different parking lots. she then turned to the las vegas strip and for whatever reason started aiming at people on the sidewalks. we know one of the bodies that were flown in the air, actually broke that windshield out. people started banging on the windows to stop her from doing what was going on. that child was sitting next to her during the whole time. eventually she went up the strip and told the security guard exactly what she did. so far the sheriff's department says they don't believe she was under the influence of alcohol but so many people have questions about what would drive this woman to do that, especially those out on the strip that evening. you had one person who was killed. three others who are still in critical condition and two others in serious condition. a lot of people have questions about how this woman's state of
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mind got to this point. talking to that family spokesperson, he said she was employed. she loved her child. she had a family that was supporting her all the time. and there weren't signs something like this would happen. there's a lot of questions right now. >> ryan young for us in las vegas, thanks so much. coming up, new details on the suicide attack that killed six u.s. troops in afghanistan. officials revealing that one of the victims was this man, a father, a husband, a national guardsman, a 15-year veteran of the new york police department. plus, where in the world is ethan couch? the question right now stumping investigators as they hunt for the teenager who killed four people in a drunk driving crash, walked on that so-called affluenza defense, and now is on the run with his mom. just about anywhere you can use splenda®... ...no calorie sweetener. splenda® lets you experience... ...the joy of sugar... ...without all the calories.
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new information this morning about the american service members killed in a taliban attack in afghanistan. the pentagon has not released their names, but new york officials say one of the victims is joseph lemm. he was a national guardsman, a 15-year veteran of the new york police department. moments ago governor cuomo ordered all flags of state buildings to be flown at half-staff tomorrow. >> lemm and others on a nato mission were killed in a motorcycle suicide attack in bagram yesterday. nato says, of course, the attack is under investigation. cnn affiliate news 12 westchester was there when lemm surprised his family on a visit home back in 2013. he was deployed three times, twice to afghanistan, once to iraq. joseph lemm now leaves behind a
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wife and two beautiful children. >> another area where u.s. troops very much involved happening now in iraq. government forces there carrying out an operation to take the center city of ramadi back from isis militants. that's what iraqi leaders claim. a u.s. coalition is backing the operation with air power. a short time ago u.s. official announced iraqi forces have moved into ramadi's central neighborhoods. >> we're hearing from iraqis that isis is using human shields. let's get the latest from robyn kriel. >> reporter: it sounds like a complex operation. a dawn raid by iraqi forces, elite counterterror forces trained by the u.s., they apparently built a pontoon bridge over a key canal and then entered one of the key districts to try to breach into ramadi's
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center city. what we're told is they're going incredibly slowly. this is a slow and deliberate operation. it's not expected to be over in a couple hours because of these human shields. they're very worried isis militants forced civilians that were trying to flee the city. they were warned by the coalition when they were trying to flee the city with their families, isis took them essentially hostage and is keeping them space around the city and human shields. isis would have also had time to lay traps for these troops that were coming in, that are trying to breach the city center, such as ieds and booby traps, vehicle car bombs, so that's why they're taking this incredibly solely. this is a u.s.-led coalition, supported by u.s.-led coalition air strikes. we understand the u.s. has dropped a 33 munitions in the past 24 hours. >> robyn kriel for us watching the situation. thanks. let's talk about this and the
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significance. joined us retired brigadier general martin. talk to me about the significance of this operation. isis has controlled ramadi since may. what does it mean if this operation today is successful? >> well, first, i think all of us recognize the importance of ramadi in terms of iconic value. this is where a lot of americans died. this is where a lot of iraqis died. it's one of the largest cities in anbar province and should iraqis take it over, it will be seen as a strategic victory for iraqis and a strategic defeat for isis. >> a strategic victory for sure. but as we we will know, since it was taken over by isis in may, there have been several attempts to retake it by iraqi forces. why have those -- why have those attempts not been successful to this point? what suggests to you it's going to be different this time? >> primarily the fact that the iraqi security forces have put their most elite units, their
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counterterrorism forces inside this fight. they have been very well trained. they're much better resourced than the average iraqi forces. and i think in many ways prime minister abadi has made this a gut-check for himself as the leader and for the iraqi security forces and their capabilities as people have doubted them recently. >> general, what do you think the american role is right now or how deeply involved do you imagine americans to be? we know these air strikes, 33 bombs dropped. that's not a heck of a lot. we've been told by iraqi officials there are no u.s. troops involved on the ground but i suspect the reality is a little more nuanced. there might be special forces or intelligence operators near the front. >> i certainly can't go to that particular issue. even if i knew, i don't think it would be responsible to be talking about it. we certainly know the bridge that was put over ramadi to get back inside ramadi was provided by the american logistics and american engineers.
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little doubt the weapons were provided by the coalition or particularly the americans. the training that was done for the counterterrorism services was done by coalition, probably americans as well. i think short of actually putting boots on the ground at the leading edge of this fight, you're not seeing any american participation. >> and u.s. military spokesman talking about that bridge that was used, general, he said -- he cautioned there was still a long way before ramadi was liberated. it pointed this out. there is a lot of dense terrain here, he said, that needs to be negotiated. what makes ramadi different? >> it's fighting inside of a city. any time you are fighting door to door, building to building, neighborhood to neighborhood, that's the toughest fight that you've got going. and it takes away in many cases the advantages the iraqi security forces will use.
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you're not going to use artillery, air, helicopters. isis intentionally has decided to -- >> what happens next? can they keep that momentum going in the battle against isis and just talking about ramadi in anbar province, how do you control, maintain iraqi government control over this area which hasn't shown a lot of will to be the main country of iraq for some time now? >> that's true. i think we saw in 2006 and '07, once ramadi was taken, once fallujah was taken, that responsible city officials did come back and take over control of the city. more importantly is your question about what's next. it's clear that the fight out to the west has been important.
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equally important is the fight up to the north to retake mosul. i would expect the iraqi security forces and the government to start shifting their focus north to mosul and away from the west because mosul, the second largest city inside iraq is strategically important as well. >> how central is retaking ramadi in the long process of pushing isis out of iraq at some point? >> you look where ramadi's position is. there isn't a lot between ramadi and border except for open desert. the first city coming in from syria, have you a pretty good sgrip grip on the country. you can't define victory simply in terms of the amount of territory you've retain. ramadi and mosul are important but there's much more to do before we can declare isis in any way damaged or degraded
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simply by taking those two towns. >> remember, they've been in mosul for more than a year and a half at this point. this is an isis city as much as anything right now. general, thanks for being with us. >> thanks. coming up for us, the hunt for the so-called aflew en. >> teenager. he killed four people in a drunk driving crash and then vanished just a few weeks ago after video showed him on social media, video surfaced. officials still searching. he's believed to be on the run with his mother. ♪ while you're watching this, i'm hacking your company. grabbing your data. stealing your customers' secrets. there's an army of us. relentlessly unpicking your patchwork of security. think you'll spot us? ♪ you haven't so far. the next wave of the internet requires the next wave of security. we're ready. are you?
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fugitive teenager, given probation after a drunk driving incident where four people were killed. he got probation for that. the reason he's wanted now is for violating that pro bags aft probation after a video surfaced on social media. >> he's on the run, apparently with his mother. let's discuss it with assistant director of u.s. marshal service, art roderick. this is a kid convicted of drunk driving and his mom. i don't know they run a crime syndicate, i don't know they have vast criminal experiences. why is it difficult to catch them? shouldn't there be signs of where they are now? >> i think they're investigating quite a few very good leads out there at this point. once the sheriff's office referred this case over to the north texas fugitive task force, that opened it up to the whole country. there's 70 plus of these same types of task forces all over the u.s. and territories.
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with the publicity this case has got, they do have several good leads they're investigating right now. it is kind of unusual, you're right. i mean, i've arrested career criminals that have breathed a sigh of relief because they're constantly looking over their shoulder. it's very stressful to be on the run like this. especially when your particular case is garnered this much publicity. >> now, the mom is now listed as missing. she wanted as well along with her son. that leads us to wonder, what is the role of the father here? i know the background here is a little complicated. the parents -- we know the parents were divorced. they remarried and then split up again after that deadly crash. he used that now infamous defense of affluenza. what's the role of the father here, art? >> yeah, it is very strange. obviously, the first thing investigators are going to look at are family members. they're going to go directly to the father since he had probably the closest contact with the mother and the kid. now, the other family members,
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extended family members, they're going to look at those family members and try to figure out how they're communicating with one another, if at all. i'm sure there was some type of planning to make this particular run go, so that they might have stashed some money. sooner or later they're going to make a mistake. these are not career criminals. and i think somebody's going to come forward very shortly with here they are at this particular hotel right now. they have the vehicle out there. there's an 800 number to call. 800-336-0 102 if anybody has leads on this particular case. i think it's a matter of time at this point before they get picked up. the other interesting fact is, i think the father reported that the passports of both these individuals are missing. if this case goes international, that opens up to a whole other aspect of the investigation. >> there's not a lot of goodwill for the people in the local community. a lot of people would like to see them caught and soon so a lot of people willing to help.
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what if they are abroad, what if they did leave the country, art, what kind of trail would that leave behind? just based on your experience, you say something's going to trip them up. what do you think it would be? >> i think what will trip them up is the cash, the money issue. these people aren't used to living under the radar like most fugitives that are successful at staying away from law enforcement generally do. money will be their holdup. what's going to happen is the marshal service has a great financial investigations unit. they're looking at their accounts, their credit cards, anything to do with any money that's been shifted around. now, if this case does go international, then that opens up the whole entinterpol avenue where the task force would go to interpol. there's a section of interpol, i think it's the alien and fugitive unit, that sits over an interpol hearing here in washington that would establish a red notice. that red notice would go out to 190 member countries around the
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world. that red notice would allow them to be picked up if they try to enter another country. >> so, they've put out this -- the description of this car they're looking for. they also say the passports are missing. does that tell you -- the fact the car description has been put out there, does that tell you they don't yet think it has gone international or maybe they just don't really -- don't have a really good lead on where they could be? >> i think they're concentrating domestically right now. but you always have to look at the international aspect when passports are missing, obviously. now, it's their passports, so the minute they scan those passports it will show up somewhere because they are in the national crime information center right now as a wanted person and as a missing person. so, if they try to leave the country under those legal passports, that should be picked up fairly quickly. >> thank you. coming up from us, donald trump saying john mccain was a war hero to ben carson's story
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the music. and the music almost makes it seem quaint. >> yes. >> and it is that we were talking about the political year which is the least quaint political year in the history are the tri of ever, and so many surprises and so much change and so many questions remain. >> yes, and the top ten of the series, chief political correspondent dana bash is going to be looking back at some of the most memorable campaign moments of this fabulous political year. how did she decide?
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♪ >> reporter: in politics 2015 was the year of one-liners, insults and interruptions and controversy. it was the escalator ride that changed the republican race. donald trump kicked the campaign off full-on donald trump style, upending the field and all political rules. >> when mexico sends the people, they are not sending the best. they are bringing the drugs, bri bringing the crime, and they are rapists and some i assume are good people. >> reporter: those comments caused a huge backlash especially in the latino community, but rocketed trum top the top of the gop field. and the provocative statements continued on the campaign trail. in early iowa race, he said this about former p.o.w. john mccain.
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>> he is not a war hero. >> he is a war hero. >> he is a war hero because he was captured, i like people that are not captured. >> reporter: many thought that would be the end, but it is a many of a series of blunders that failed to knock him from the perch. on the democratic side, e-mails and benghazi attack derailed hillary clinton's first part of her campaign, and then it backfired on the republicans and gave hillary clinton a boost. >> were you at home? >> yes. >> who was with you? >> alone. >> the whole night? >> the whole night. [ laughter ] >> i don't find it funny at all. did you have any briefings? >> well, sorry, it is a e note of levity at 7:15. >> and after months of fielding months of fielding questions,
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clinton got an unexpected assist from the opponent bernie sanders from democratic debate. >> and the fact is that the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your e-mails. >> reporter: that moment may have hurt sanders' campaign, but it was great for "saturday night live." >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damned e-mails. >> reporter: the black lives matter was important to shape the campaign and shutdown a sanders' forum. after months of speculation, joe biden decided not to run for president so llidifying clinton spot in the campaign. >> while i am not a no, ma'am neeshgs i am not going to be silent. i intend to speak out clearly
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and forcefully. >> reporter: in the republican race friends turned rivals on display as jeb bush was looking to finally find some mojo took on the former protege marco rubio. >> marco, when you signed up for this, it with auz six-year term, and you should be showing up to work, and literally the senate, and is this a french work week? >> we are running for the same position, and you think that attacking me is going to help you. >> and the poll numbers are stuck in the single digits. while some gop candidates shyed away from take on trump, carly fiorina called him out in the reagan library debate about con tr controe ver shall comments he made about the face. >> i think that women all over t the country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> from fiorina to trump to neurosurgeon ben carson, 2015 is the year of the outsider. carter who has no political
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experience topped the polls this fall briefly, but the inspiring narrative of a violent past and spiritual redemption was called into question by a c nshnn investigation. >> you know when i was camping, and i was 14, i had a knife and i tried to stab him. and fortunately he had a belt buckle, and i didn't get through him, and -- >> and that gave room for donald trump. >> if someone stabs me in the belt, he going to get me, because it moves this way, and that way. >> reporter: and then a donald trump shocker, trump gave this policy prescription. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of the muslims en the tering the united states. >> reporter: once again, the con tr controe ver shall comments did nothing to stop trump's rise, but the real test for trump is february 1st in 2016 when the voters first go to the polls.
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>> and the good news is that there is still like ten days left in the year? so much can happen still. >> and what is 2016 going to bring? ah. >> dana has to update it. >> and i have to announce this is the last day of 2015 together. >> very sad, but we have 2016 ahead of us. >> thank you for join g ing us s hour. >> ashleigh banfield starts right now with "legal view." this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone, i'm ashleigh banfield and welcome the "legal view." this is breaking news out of fort bragg, north carolina, where where army sergeant bowe bergdahl has been arraigned before the court-martial process. this is brand-new video of bergdahl leaving the court proceedings, and he was clean cut and shaven in the uniform, and this is an important hearing, because he could be facing life in prison for the allegations of desertion and

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