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worst terrorist attack since 9/11. >> tonight, new answers in the act of terror here that took 14 lives. that is how it is now being investigated, an act of terror. >> reporter: 14 people shot dead by a coworker and his wife. >> this is now a federal terrorism investigation led by the fbi. >> reporter: syed farook and tashfeen malik pledge their support to the terror group. this incident law enforcement's worst fear, lone wolf terrorists. >> "the lead" starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> and welcome to "the lead." i'm jim sciutto in today for jake tapper. we begin today with breaking news in cleveland. we're watching for a news conference to begin any moment addressing a grand jury's decision not tamir rice case. we learned a short time ago that two police officers who shot and killed the 12-year-old will not face criminal charges.
the young black boy who was holding what turned out to be a pellet gun. prosecutor described what he called a perfect storm of human error, but the grand jury decided this afternoon not to indict those officers. let's go straight now to that press conference in cleveland. it appears it's about to start. >> everybody ready? good. good. well, as you already know the grand jury came back with no indictment in terms of the police officers involved in the tamir rice shooting. you know, this has been a long, troubling, trying year for not just the city of cleveland, but particularly for the rice family. and i know that they have been pushing for some closure in regards to the criminal side of this. but with this closure know the
deep pain they must feel even with the closure. so i want to say to the family, the mother in particular, that we are sorry for their loss. we know it has been a long process, but we do not intend to add to whatever anxiety or agony that they feel in terms of the process. we're concerned about due process. and now that the criminal side is over with and there's been a determination in terms of criminal side, we are now going to proceed with the administrative review of what happened. and that will come to the chief. and the chief will start immediately on that process. so i'm going to have the chief come up and really talk to you about that process in general. and then i'll close it out. and we'll answer whatever questions you have.
all right. >> thanks, mayor. well, as the mayor stated this has been a troubling year. some trying times for the city of cleveland. but i think that the people in the city have met these times and have stepped up for us and for this city. and have pushed for some positive changes that we're in the process of doing. and i think the citizens of the city need to be applauded for that. i think that we're contining down that road to make sure that things get better in the city. day in and day out. and we don't do that alone. we do it with the assistance of the people in this city. as the mayor stated, now that the county grand jury has concluded, we start our administrative process in this matter with both the officers involved. we are going to reconvene our critical incident review committee. that committee will look at this
incident from start to finish. that committee will also take a look at any and all information that's going to be provided to them by either the county sheriff's office, the grand jury or the county prosecutor's office. and their review of this incident. once that's completed, the results of that review will be forwarded to my office at which time i will take a look at that and then we will conclude this process. now, what that conclusion looks like none of us know because this committee has to conduct that investigation, that review. and i don't want to speculate on how long that's going to take. as the mayor stated this has been a long process already and we don't want to drag this out necessarily and we won't. this committee will get to work very shortly here. they will take a look at all the evidence. they will take a look at all the testimony. everything that's been put out
there so far. and they will forward a recommendation to my office. at that time we will start our administrative process. i want to again send our prayers out not only to the rice family but to the city. and to let people know that we're here, that we're going to get through this again as we've gotten through other things in the past. and the city will be better off for it. thank you. >> and i do want to emphasize that one of the things that we have been hearing for over this past year is whether or not there was a process or due process. and we're not just going through a process. we are affording due process to everyone involved. and i believe that when we do that and we do it in a fair and objective way that we'll reach whatever conclusion comes out of
that due process. but again, this has caused the city of cleveland with the loss of a child at the hands of a police officer. to do a lot of soul searching. and in the midst of that soul searching we have made some changes not only in terms of our policies, tactics, process, procedure, but we've reached an agreement with the department of justice in terms of consent decree. all of this is designed to better ensure that an incident like this will never happen again. okay. so we'll take whatever questions you have. yes. [ inaudible question ] >> well, i cannot comment on that until the process is finished because that automatically when you say that
that automatically concludes something. we're going to go through a process. and, you know, prosecutor magentie has drawn his conclusion based on the end of his process. at the end of our process we will have a conclusion. and that conclusion, as i said, we'll deal with due process for everyone involved. >> you have a legal background, do you agree this is the appropriate outcome? >> i'm not going to comment on that. you know, again, you're asking me to comment and -- because whatever i say you're going to draw a conclusion from that as to what -- and when i say that and you draw the conclusion, then it has tainted our process. i'm not going to be having those kind of conversations. just as we haven't had them in the past. we're not going to have them now. only thing i can assure you and the public and the rice family that this will not just be a
proce process. this will be due process. yes, ma'am. yes, ma'am. [ inaudible question ] >> again, i also commented that i don't want to put a timeframe on it because the committee has a lot of work to do. yes, it starts right away. and that committee is made up of members of the division. we also have members of the public, of the community that are on that committee. i can get you a full list of the committee members, but it's basically the same committee that was put together during the brelow incident. the chase of november 29th. so we'll give you that list of people that are on it, but they have a system to go through to get through all the evidence.
and they have to review that evidence. and then they have to make sure that they come to conclusions based on that evidence. and then that's presented to me and we go from there. >> are you dpsh to the potential discipline of the officers involved in the shooting? >> there's a potential discipline if there are violations of our policies or procedures, yes. [ inaudible question ] >> both of the officers are and will remain on restricted duty. they've been on restricted duty since this incident happened. that's part of our process not to allow officers involved in critical incidents to go back out there into the fray. they will remain on restricted duty until we complete the administrative process. >> chief, will there be any other position looked at? >> we'll look at the incident from start to finish. anybody involved from our communications center to the officers themselves to people involved afterwards giving care,
that kind of thing, we'll look at the incident from start to finish. thank you. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't want to get this mixed up -- >> we've been listening to chief of police calvin williams as well as the mayor frank johnson responding to the lack of charges against the two police officers involved in the shooting of the 12-yearold tamir rice. they say there will now be an administrative action carried out by the cleveland police department. they say that will not be something that they want to drag out. but the mayor promising there there will be due process for those involved. i want to go straight to cnn correspondent jean casarez. she's been following this story from the beginning. jean, i know it's early. it's only been a short time since this decision came out announced by the prosecutor. from what you know and what you've seen, how did the grand jury decide in this case not to file charges against these officer sns. >> well, i think that critical
and we're going to show some of this in a minute, is an enhanced video of the situation at the recreation center on november 2014, one year ago when tamir rice was shot at 12 years old. but i think that the prosecutor said things that we had heard before but confirmed with us which really forms the state of mind of the officer. let's listen. >> it is likely that tamir, whose size made him look much older and who had been warned that his pellet gun might get him into trouble that day, either intended to hand it over to the officers or show them it wasn't a real gun. but there was no way for the officers to know that. >> and despite that the dispatch when they called saying there was an active shooter at that recreation center, did not say that it was possibly a juvenile and did not say as the original call that came in that it was possibly a toy gun. so their state of mind was active shooter. now, you're looking right there at some of the enhanced video
that we saw for the first time today. and you can see the squad car has pulled up and it was a matter of ten seconds from pull up to shooting and actually just two seconds after he got out of the car, the officer that the shot came. but what they really wanted to make apparent in this video today was that first of all, the enhanced video shows tamir rice initially standing up and putting his hand into his waistband as to be putting a gun away into the waistband. and then turning around and walking in an opposite direction, but turning and then coming toward the squad car. at that point they say the video shows that the right hand of tamir rice was in the front of his body and it moves back up to his waist and you see his jacket then come up. and i think most importantly they say that this gun, which was a toy gun ultimately it was found on the ground which shows
that the gun was out of his waistband when the officer shot tamir rice. >> jean, we heard when the prosecutor announce this decision he said it was he acknowledged it was a difficult phone call, as of course you would expect with his family. how has the family responded publicly since the announcement? >> well, they issued a statement. and it has been so emotional. this was a 12-year-old little boy really. and this is the statement that the family issued just minutes ago. they say tamir's family is saddened and disappointed by this outcome but not surprised. it has been clear for months now the cuyahoga prosecutor was abusing his manipulating to grand jury process to orchestrate a vote against indictment. >> jean casarez, thank you for joining us. cnn legal analyst van jones and joey jackson. joey, i want to start with you
if i can take advantage of your legal experience here. we've seen, as you know, a lot of cases like this. police shootings, seldom is -- are the police officers charged. of course we're talking about a large variety of cases here. i don't want to get lost in that, but just can you explain to me, explain to our viewers what is the legal standard required to be met by a prosecutor or by a grand jury to issue charges in a police shooting? it is higher for officers of the law of course than it is for members of the public, but what is the legal standard they have to meet? >> it is, jim. what happens is first you get it to a grand jury. and that's been a big concern with this case because of the delay of time it took to get to the grand jury. let's remind everyone that this happened in november of last year 2014, a grand jury was just convened this october in the middle of the month to consider it. and so as an initial matter the grand jury first, it considers, a, is there reasonable cause to believe that a crime was committed, and b, did these officers commit it?
so what might constitute a crime? whatever the grand jury considers police instances what they look at is what would a reasonable officer do in their position. three things are considered, one, is there an immediacy of the threat that's posed to the officers or the general public? number two, is the officer's response to that threat proportionate or not? and number three, as i mentioned before, the reasonableness of that activity. now, it's not viewed by monday morning quarterbacked. it's not viewed by the fact of hindsight and the benefits of it. the law reck niedss and understands that they have a split second to make decisions. but i think, jim, what happens particularly in this case and i think there will be an evaluation of that throughout the country is the process that's employed to get that information. is the local prosecutor who works with police, who relies upon the police for investigative materials, who relies upon the police to make arrests, should they be the people who are ultimately really making that decision? when i say that, we know this is
a grand jury. but what we also know, jim, is that the prosecutor essentially is the judge, the jury and the executioner. controlling the flow of information. seeing what the grand jury hears, what they don't hear, what they consider and don't consider. yes, grand juries have subpoena power, but as a former prosecutor i can tell you that the manner in which you present the case has a lot to do with the full-time outcome in terms of what the grand jury ultimately concludes. >> no questions. prosecutors have a lot of power in this. jean got to this earlier. some of the key issues that came up were his size. the fact he'd been warned earlier, tom fuentes, about carrying that pellet gun. but a lot of this information is how it got to the officers. for instance, the dispatcher neglected to mention that the 911 caller said that the gunman was probably a juvenile and that the gun may not be real. so the cops when you go to state of mind they have that there's a guy there, they have a description of his clothing, et cetera, but they don't have that key information. you're a cop in those shoes. how essential is that?
>> well, couple things about that, jim. you know, you don't know -- again, the officer haves to go by what they're told by the dispatcher. you've already heard family members say that tamir was large for his size. that means if he looked a bit older than 12, 14, 15, there's other kids in the streets of cleveland and all over this country gunning kids down at that age with handguns. that's number one the size would be relevant. and you have kids much smaller than that that have killed other kids. secondly, even if someone from the public tells you i think it's a toy gun, i was a firearms instructor most of my 36 years in law enforcement. i could not have told you standing five feet away whether that was or wasn't a real gun. looking at the pictures now no one could tell you that. so somebody from 100 yards away phoning that in, how would they know? >> as you say it's a split second decision. van, i want to ask you. that statement, that phrasing from the family statement struck me. they said they're disappointed but not surprised by this decision. what's your reaction to that?
>> well, i think they are like many of us, this particular prosecutor went above and beyond the call of duty to orchestrate the exoneration of these officers. you've never seen a prosecutor go out, spend money to bring in experts to exonerate the police officers. they literally brought in experts. usually what a prosecutor does, listen, if you think that this should go in front of a jury, you put the evidence forward. you move forward with the jury trial. to say nothing happened here, nothing happened, this should go to a jury, how about this? no medical aid after the kid is killed. how about criminal medical neglect? how about the fact that under ordinary circumstances a police officer would never put themselves in peril and then shoot their way out. the fact that the police officers drove into peril and then shot his way out, there's not a traffic ticket you can issue, not a misdemeanor, there's not one thing that happened here that could be charged. that is completely preposterous
on its face and yet this prosecutor went above and beyond the call of duty to spend extra money and took extra time to get these cops off. prosecutors do not act this way under ordinary circumstances. usually they throw the book at you and then they tell you, you explain to a judge and jury why you're innocent. this particular prosecutor did the opposite of most prosecutors in this case. >> now we have to see how the city of cleveland reacts to this. van jones, tom fuentes, joey jackson, thank you. also in the national lead today, twisters, floods, blizzards. violent storms making for a cruel and crushing end to 2015. that is across the u.s. more is on the way. also in national news, coming up after this -- (vo) some call it giving back. we call it share the love. during our share the love event, get a new subaru, and we'll donate $250 to those in need. bringing our total donations to over sixty-five million dollars.
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texas, where tornadoes broke family homes it appeared into match sticks. nick, temperatures dropping there from 80s yesterday now to freezing today. tell us what the scene is like. >> reporter: well, we have been here all day long, jim. and over the course of the last couple of hours we have seen residents of this apartment complex slowly start to trickle back to sift through their belongings. some of them telling me they had little if any warning to seek shelter. >> i thought i was dead, you know. i was waiting for the tornado to suck me out. but it didn't. gave me a second chance. >> reporter: for josh white the chance to walk away from a deadly e-4 tornado here in garland, texas, almost didn't come. >> i was running toward my closet and the doors and everything started caving in. and stuff started flying through the windows. things were just hitting us. i could feel it hitting us, bricks, everything. >> reporter: he hid with his wife and 5-year-old son with just a mattress to protect them from winds up to 200 miles per
hour. >> this is made me realize how fragile life is. but try to do better. >> reporter: 11 people were killed in texas alone this weekend when tornadoes ripped through the state tearing apart buildings leaving skeleton structures and shattered wood behind. the destructive winds are a part of a massive storm system wreaking havoc across the nation with a deadly mix of tornadoes, ice, blizzards and flooding. stretching from new mexico to maine. at least two dozen people have died and more than 100 million more could be effected by severe storms, flooding and snow from this same system. white gathers his belongings in just a sweatshirt while others in the lone star state are digging out of frigid blizzard conditions, just part of the bizarre and brutal weather here. texas is among the hardest hit states along with illinois and missouri. each reporting multiple deaths. at least four international
soldiers stationed at ft. leonard wood perished when their water. overtaken by rising >> they did find two individuals in the car. we found two other men that were actually outside of the vehicle that were in the creek. >> reporter: now as hundreds of americans are beginning to see the destruction left in the storm's path, millions more are bracing for what's next. josh white says he'll be there to help anyone who needs it. >> everybody never expects this. i mean, once you go through it, it changes your life forever. you want to help people now, you know. >> reporter: we cannot forget the victims of the 11 people that died in the dallas area, eight of them perished here. the youngi isest victim just tu a year old two weeks ago. >> nick valencia, thank you. the world lead, iraqi soldiers raising their flag over a key city they say they took back from isis who were using innocent people as human shields. but it's the other areas where the terror group is actually
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welcome back to "the lead." topping our world lead today, the western iraq city of ramadi now liberated say iraqi officials from the hands of isis for which the iraqi army had been locked in a fierce, sometimes halting, battle with isis militants for control of the city. then earlier today iraqi forces proudly raising the country's flag above the government compound from where isis fighters had been launching attacks. though in a sign of the continuing danger even that moment was marred by continuing gunfire. cnn's global affairs correspondent elise labott is
here. elise, you talk to u.s. officials, they are much more cautious than iraqi officials than american officials on the ground today. >> calling retaking of the center of the city a significant accomplishment. but the u.s. is cautioning the iraqi government its next steps are equally important to hold ramadi and build upon those gains. claiming a, quote, epic victory, the iraqi army announced the liberation of ramadi just 60 miles west of baghdad. drone surveillance footage shows the moment iraqi troops raised the national flag over the government complex. >> translator: the city of ramadi has been liberated. >> reporter: u.s.-led coalition air strikes aided newly trained iraqi forces who called in isis targets. today, the coalition though not ready to declare the city liberated, called the success a,
quote, proud moment for iraq. >> the iraqi forces have made great progress over the last week or so. >> reporter: the celebrations could be short-lived. pockets of resistance remain along with hundreds of explosives planted by the terror group. also still unclear, whether iraqi forces can hold the city and stop shia militias who are not included in the operation from re-igniting sectarian tensions. >> this needs to be an inclusive governmental approach. >> reporter: retaking the capital and largest population center of the predominantly sunni anbar province, a strategic and symbolic victory for the iraqi army. the city's fall to isis in may, an embarrassing defeat that had defense secretary carter questioning their resolve. >> they failed to fight. they withdrew from the site. >> reporter: but just weeks ago carter urged iraq's prime minister to move north toward mosul. iraq i iraq's second largest city where isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi
claimed a caliphate more than a year ago. after a recent string of defeats north of bag dar and sinjar mountain where the fight against isis began, baghdadi warned in a new audio recording that despite the setbacks isis remains strong. promising an epic final battle. and today iraqi prime minister al badi tweeted what he called complete confidence that iraqis are now going to liberate mosul. but a spokesperson for the coalition says first the iraqis have a lot of work to retake and secure all of anbar province including fallujah. the coalition also needs to finish training the remainder of the iraqi army and resupply forces after those last few months of fighting. but mosul, as you know, jim, considered the big prize in freeing iraq from isis. coalition determined to help iraqis make that happen. >> mosul much bigger than
ramadi. joining me retired brigadier former assistant secretary of state for political military affairs, also note security and defense adviser to a number of u.s. and foreign firms. general, thanks very much to have you here. so let's look at the map to gauge coalition progress against isis. i'll admit i look at this map all the time. i always have trouble seeing it visually. this is where we stand today. let's really focus on the red areas here. those are under isis control, the yellow areas with an isis support zone. tell me what we see here and what's important about these areas. >> well, the important thing to note is that everything is along the river. this is euphrates river here, this is the tigris river here. the fight going on right now is along the euphrates from baghdad tora ma di. but the real prize is up in mosul. it's going to be a tougher fight. >> moving up the river in fact. let's be clear go back to january of this year where they stood. so they were further down along here. so we can call that a success.
iraqi forces pushing them further up the river bed in effect. i'm going to go back to where we are now. and this is where they were beginning of the year. >> in the river valleys along the tigris, they've taken back tikrit, now the prize in mosul. along the euphrates baghdad tora ma di is now clear. >> you noted earlier mosul is five times the size of ramadi, so five times as difficult? >> well, it's going to be five times more difficult because not only that the main supply base for the iraqi army, for them to be able to fight up the river valley all the way to mosul on extended logistics line is going to be much more difficult than baghdad to ramadi. >> this is iraq and syria, the islamic state as they call it, isis. let's go regionally even though they've been fought back a bit in home base, they've expanded largely by getting affiliates in effect around the region. >> sure. in fact, that's probably the most important thing we can't stay focused simply on iraq and
syria. they're now starting to move out of the islamic state, around the region and quite frankly around the world. >> egypt is a key u.s. ally. you have u.s. forces based in these places in afghanistan. you certainly have them operating at times in yemen as well. so there's danger. >> there is. there is. >> now, they move out of their home base in effect, establish bases elsewhere. but another way they projected power is through acts of terror. let's look where they've been able to carry those out just in the last month, really. of course you had the attack in san bernardino claimed loyalty to isis. those attackers there the horrible attacks in paris that we were at just about a month ago. suicide bombings in beirut. and then that russian airliner brought down by an isis -- or at least isis claims to have brought it down by a bomb. do you expect to see more attacks like this outside, not even just the region or home base but outside of the region as they get squeezed in their home base? >> i really think they do. because number one, they've got to continue to show victory to bring in more and more recruits. and also to get more and more
money as well. so they're going to continue these spectacular attacks around the world in my estimation primarily to show they continue to be viable and they continue to be strong. >> to show their power. general, always great to have you on. thanks very much. the politics lead. just five weeks until the iowa caucuses. but republican front-runner donald trump seems to be looking, well, beyond primary season. he's going after democratic front runner hillary clinton and calling her campaign tactics sexist. does trump have a point, or is his claim completely off base? getting older shouldn't mean giving up all the things she loves to do. it should just mean, well, finding new ways to do them. right at home's professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to provide help with personal care, housekeeping, and of course, meal preparation. oh, that smells so good. aw, and it tastes good, too. we can provide the right care, right at home.
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welcome back to "the lead." in our politics lead, donald trump is showing no signs of slowing down this holiday season. this time he's going after his old friends, the clintons both hillary and bill. trump says bill clinton had, quote, a terrible record of woman abuse. the gop front-runner tour in the virginia republican party calling a recent decision there
stupid. let's now bring in cnn political reporter sara murray. she is following donald trump in new hampshire today. sara, it looks like donald trump hoping to end 2015 on, shall we say a strong note? >> yeah, i think you're absolutely right, jim. he is doing that by going hard against hillary clinton. and he's really holding nothing back, even going after her husband, bill's infidelities. just weeks before the iowa caucuses it seems nothing is off limits. >> she was favored to win and she got schlonged. she lost. >> now trading charges of sexism. >> she's playing the woman's card and it's like give me a break. >> and trump is upping the ante, taking aim at bill clinton over his past infidelities and allegations of sexual harassment. >> i think he is fair game because his presidency was really considered to be very troubled, to put it mildly, because of all of the things
she's talking to me about. she's mentioning sexism. >> reporter: today, trump tweeting if hillary thinks she can unleash her husband with his terrible record of women abuse while playing the womens card on me, she's wrong. all of this after clinton accused trump of having a penchant for sexism. >> i don't know that he has any boundaries at all. and his bigotry, his bluster, his bullying have become his campaign. >> reporter: targeting bill's behavior may fire up trump's backers. but attacking hillary over her husband's indiscretions could fuel her own supporters. meanwhile, trump is waging war on other fronts. today, facing sharp criticism from jeb bush. >> donald trump is not serious about being a candidate. he's a great politician. he fills the space. he's the chaos candidate. and he'd be the chaos president of the united states. >> reporter: and launching a flurry of tweets slamming the virginia gop for requiring voters to declare they're
republicans, saying straighten out the republican party of virginia before it is too late. trump's getting a frosty welcome in new hampshire today too as the union leaders publisher releases an editorial slamming trump as a crude blow hard. today, trump firing back calling publisher joe mcquaid a low life. >> he's a real low life, there's no question about it. >> reporter: and taking a shot at chris christie over bridgegate right as his fortunes are improving in the granite state. >> chris can't win because of his past. and i don't believe you've heard the last of the george washington bridge because there's no way that he didn't know about the closure. >> reporter: those are the harshest attacks we've seen so far from trump against chris christie. and gives you a sense that even though trump might like to be in a general election fight with hillary clinton right now, first he has got to make it through these republican primaries and of course new hampshire is a vital state for that. we'll see if those shots against chris christie were a preview of
what he'll have for voters here in nashua tonight, jim. >> sara murray, thank you so much. joining me cnn contributor hillary rosen also terry jeffrey, conservative syndicated columnist. if i could begin with you, terry, just the method to the madness as it were. i mean, it's easy to dismiss some of these attacks and say what the heck's he doing here. but explain to me the political benefit of going after hillary clinton on the sexism line, on bill clinton, et cetera. is he rallying the base? is he trying to draw others in? >> well, i think there's one thing to criticizing donald trump'sin eloquent and unpresidential rhetoric which i think is clearly the case. but i think when trump says that bill clinton will be an issue in the election, i think that's legitimate. i think he's got a good point. bill clinton was one of only two presidents in the history of the united states who was impeached. he was impeached for perjury and injustice. hillary supported him as president, he's supporting her.
that's a legitimate issue. >> legitimate issue in your view? >> well, sure, he can try. but as bill clinton was leaving office an overwhelming majority of americans said they would have re-elected him to a third term if they had the opportunity. so, you know, you can bring up these other issues if you want to, donald trump. but when it comes down to it, americans actually think that bill clinton not only was a good president, had a strong economy, that the policies that he had were good for women and good for families, hillary clinton, you know, shares those policy views. i just think he's going down a rat hole. and he's only doing it of course to appeal to the primary voters -- republican primary voters because that's who he needs right now. he needs to solidify a base among the republican voters. >> let me ask you about another line of attack, and that's the sexism. >> yeah. >> allegation against hillary clinton saying by fighting back on this she's raising the sexism card, which actually carly
fiorina has made the same charge here. is there any fairness to that? >> well, first of all, the consistent references to looks and anatomical parts that he does when he talks about women -- >> trips to the bathroom. >> trips to the bathroom, whether it's the menstrual cycles or how somebody looks as a woman that feels sexist. no one is going to change that. >> he's turning the tables on her. >> hillary clinton isn't actually the one out there screaming sexism. it's really mostly her supporters. people are offended by donald trump doing this. so the extent that he's saying she's playing the sexism card, he's actually the offender. and if people call him on it, agree or disagree, but guess what, you're going to get cold on it. >> donald trump right now is not running against hillary clinton. i know the national media would like to make it that way. it's not happening. >> he's the one sending the tweets. >> he's running against other republicans. february 1st is a key date for donald trump. if you don't look at the national polls, if you look at
iowa and new hampshire, you see trump trending down, cruz trending up in iowa. rubio trending up in new hampshire. i do think trump's rhetoric and the way he speaks about certain things is a handicap for him including and perhaps especially with iowa and new hampshire voters who pay very close attention to what goes on. and i think very seriously take their role in a primary role in determining who will be the nominees of the party. >> here's the question, it's been a constant question, will you see the same support in those difficult and protracted iowa caucuses that you see in an online poll or in a telephone poll, can you imagine those supporters going through that same process, spending the whole day there? or do you see it taper off? >> well, in iowa in particular you have republican voters who are going to have a long time at the caucuses because there's a lot of candidates and narrowing that field might be difficult. or it could go pretty quickly. but, you know, this is the thing. i said to terry before, all of
my smart republican friends, you know, consistently say that donald trump is going to go down eve eventually. and it's because it's wishful thinking. they all want him to go down. they desperately don't want him to be the republican nominee. >> you think there's a good chance he survives. >> none of these other candidates seem to be jumping out of the field. he doesn't need a majority of republicans to win this nomination. he just needs the plurality. and he seems to be solidifying people. >> i think the key is iowa. if trump actually can win iowa, he's surreal. if he loses iowa, i think his campaign collapses. right now the trend is away from him in iowa. >> well, one thing we know is predictions of his demise have been exaggerated many times on this campaign. >> i think he will lose iowa, but he can still win new hampshire, south carolina, there's still a path for donald trump that doesn't exist for other candidates. >> quickly. >> momentum means a lot in presidential campaigns. >> that's right. terry, hillary, thank you very
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charged down the stairs with a bat. they accidentally hit and killed jones in a neighboring unit downstairs. officers never opted for a taser and shot her son several times including once in the backside. the shooting came after protests against chicago police officers and other deadly shootings there. mayor rahm emanuel is scheduled to arrive back in chicago tomorrow afternoon. and now the sports lead. star nfl quarterback peyton manning is furious over an investigative report by al je sooer that accuses him and other big name athletes of taking performance enhancing drugs. we should mention the source of the allegations has been identified as an unpaid intern that worked at the clinic for a short time and the source is recanting what he said on tape. >> the statements on any recordings or communications
that al jazeera plans to air are absolutely false and incorrect. to be clear, i am recanting any such statements and there is no truth to any statement of mine that al jazeera plans to air. >> it appears manning an all-time leader of nfl touchdown passes and yardage calling the accusations completely fabricated, complete trash and garbage. our sports columnist for usa today joins us now. so you've been around sports a long time. >> yeah, i have. >> you look at this case. comes out of nowhere for many of us who have long admired him and looked at his career. he's got a clean image as we know. from what you know and what you see here, completely bogus? or is it worth more examination? >> i think, jim, we have to look at this in the crucible in the framework of the steroids era, and we are still in that performance enhancing era in sports. it's not even close to being over with. we know people can get through drug testing and all of these
things we've lived with for many years, set of the backdrop of our knowledge of this time period, you have to ask questions, you have to wonder. that does not mean you're saying peyton manning is guilty. we have no idea. the bottom line is i think it's important for all of us to say we don't know whochlt can we trust. can we trust anyone? how in the world does anyone who's defending peyton manning, how do they know what he's doing at home? that doesn't mean he's innocent or guilty, but i think it's wise to step back and take a look. >> the key part of the case is the source involved here who the clinic says was a low level employee, did have some facts correct. one that peyton manning went to the clinic, he says only to use the chamer perfectly fine for all sports bodies. and, two, the clinic did ship something to his wife. and that was part of the allegation that it went to his wife. but it was really meant for him. so he has something right. >> right, so the question is what else does he have right? or maybe better said, does he have anything else that he's been correct about?
that interesting because here you have everyone discrediting him. he's recanting, he was an intern for a few months, the bottom line on all of these companies were not talking about boy scouts and girl scouts who are leaking this information. we're talking about a rogues gallery of people, even going back to jose conseco with the oakland a's was a scoundrel and vialed but totally was right. no matter how discredited this source might be. >> now, part of this you mention the timing of this. so he had a horrible neck injury, a lot of folks said you can't come back from. in fact they said it was dangerous to come back from. low and behold he comes back and breaks tom brady's single season touchdown record. this is an amazing thing. that's almost guilt by association or guilt by success, but he's a remarkable athlete. he's hard working. we've had remarkable athletes come back from remarkable injuries before. so that doesn't prove anything. >> well, no. when you think about lance armstrong, you think about barry
bonds, mark mcguire, sammy sosa, ben johnson going back to the olympics in seoul in '88, the steroid era has lasted for decades. often when there's an older aging athlete who is injured and starts to panic in the case say of barry bonds as he was getting upset about the home run derby and he wasn't a part of it. these are the stories that end up at the end in most cases proving to be true. that does not mean that peyton manning did this, but it means, again, we should be wise and smart. we're consumers, we're journalists but there's consumers of sports. they pay for the tickets. they buy the broadcast, they watch this stuff. you should want to know and get to the bottom of this. this is the era we're in like it or not. >> sports are about credibility so you want them to have credibility. so worth asking the questions. we know manning is now considering a lawsuit against al jazeera. do you see this effecting his image as he goes through this whole thing? >> how could it not. whether that's fair or not now he will be looked at in a little different way by some people for
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