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take a look live now, that's times square you're looking at. is it the safest place in the world? that's what the nypd says. in the wake of paris and san bernardino what will it take to protect the crowd of 1 million in times square on new year's eve. plus you just saw the best and the worst of 2015. but when it comes to politics, the best and the worst are all wrapped up in one huge package. >> who the hell is better at this stuff than me? nobody. nobody. >> donald trump just keeps on giving and getting trumpier, how far can he take his campaign?
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there is lots going on tonight but it's a want to get to the security preparations in new york. the eyes of the world will be in new york especially times square for new year's eve. here with me is mr. john miller. there it is right there behind you. people starting to gather. you see the people out there and the guards out there. how do you plan to keep it safe in a crowd that big? >> the big advantage we have is this isn't the first time we do this. we do this every year. it's not like we have to build a plan or that we have to build the complex counterterrorism overlay for new year's eve. what we do from year to year is just make adjustments. so this year you'll see between 600 and 800 more officers than last year because of the changes in the threat environment. but i don't want to pathologize
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times square. it's a celebration. >> but you must keep people safe. >> and you know, what we do is crowds and traffic. that's a normal police function and the counterterrorism overlay is to make sure that in the threat environment of the world today which new york is not immune to in any way that we provide all of those extras. that means expect to be screened before you come into one of the so-called pens where we section off the crowds. expect to be screened again somewhere between getting into the block and into that pen. don't bring big backpacks or packages or things like that. and there will be a lot of police there with a lot of equipment. that is very visible. >> you know, when i said the eyes of the world, everyone is watching times square. this is where the most people watch and come to ring in the new year. you're well aware of.
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that's added pressure, come on. >> so, it's added pressure. when you look at the world situation, and then you look at new york, so things we know. new york is a top terrorist target. even we say that all the time. new year's eve is a symbolic event. we have seen people unravel plots on new year's eve in indonesia and belgium in cases they brought. when you look at new york one of the reasons we have a layered approach and there are many layers seen and unseen from the vapor wake dogs to the police with the long guns out in the open to the hundreds of cameras that are being monitored. approach so that people who are going don't need to worry about that. we don't spend time worrying but planning. >> a lot of it ask things you don't see. will you engage me on this. the u.s. coalition announced
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that ten senior isis leaders had been killed in air strikes including one closely linked to the november paris attacks. do you worry about retaliation going into this. >> don't worry about it. spend time planning. that is why -- our planning goes so far out, i went to paris. i looked at the "charlie hebdo" attacks from january and the hostage situation in the jewish supermarket. the chief of intelligent went to sydney, australia. our detective from interpol went to the bardo museum after that attack. we look at each of these things in detail and bring it back to new york and say let's overlay those attacks againsten similar targets in new york and figure out what do they plan and how did they execute? what did they do wrong? what could we do better? and all of that has come to
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fruition. the reason the critical response command. the dedicated force of 527 officers the reason you see the strategic response command, the citywide flying squad, the reason they have special weapons and tactics like the emergency services unit which is our go to s.w.a.t. team. the reason you see the expansion of all that is we reacted to the attacks around the world that you referred to. and the idea is you need to have a quick response, an overwhelming response and reduces the bad guys time on target. >> if i'm looking at home and thinking of san bernardino where they say self radicalized or lone wolf. how does a department protect against a lone wolf, someone who is willing to die because of their ideology or something they believe in? >> that's the most interesting question. you know, we have a complex counterterrorism organize built by commissioner ray kelly over a
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period of years but it didn't account for things that didn't exist over time like the growth of isis where you have three levels of directed attacks like paris, enabled attacks. we had nine arrests between april and july 1st here in new york of attacks that were being enabled by isis or inspired attacks like san bernardino where they have just taken the propaganda and decided to act on it although we're still looking into that. you have three levels of threat there. and we have multiple levels of intelligence collection, gathering and investigation to thwart that. but i think if you ask the question could it happen here? the answer is it could happen anywhere. is any place more prepared or invested more resources, is any place more ready to respond? no more than new york city. >> you have to protect too
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citizens of new york city and all the people including the fury people out there in their costumes but you talk about the critical response command, the officers trained to work full-time on counterterrorism. how different is their training going to be in this program now, and do you think other cities are prepare -- as prepared as new york? >> i don't think many other cities. you have to isolate, washington, d.c., los angeles, new york, maybe chicago but there aren't many other cities -- >> this is a different type of training. >> it is. when you look at the crc, what we inherited in the nypd was the critical response vehicle program. it was cops borrowed from every precinct and you didn't get the same cops two days in a row. you put them in front of a target and say sit here and be a deterrent. but did they have the active shooter training and understand their target and what the threat
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was so that specific target? and the answer was largely probably not. this is a dedicated force. they are not borrowed. they get their intelligence briefing every day. they have had the active shooter training. this is an elite toers that is ready to respond to the type of attacks we have seen unfold in the world and the type of attacks we have not yet seen in new york and hope we never will. and the type of attacks that we are prepared to put down as quickly as possible. >> you need it more in bigger cities than smaller cities. >> if you look at new york city since 9/11 there have been 20 terrorist plots against new york city. that is more than any other city in the united states since 9/11. so statistically, we are the top terrorist target. on the other hand, since 9/11, none of those plots have succeeded because of the investment that has been made
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and that we continue to up the ante on and being prepared and preventing. >> i want to put up two polls for you. this is a new york times/cbs poll. americans are more afraid of another terrorist attack. you talked about the past 14 years. this is the new normal. and this is a new cnn poll that shows 45% of americans are concerned that they or someone in their family will become a victim of terrorism. what do you think to calm the public? this is a new normal. what do you say to calm the public over these concerns? >> i would say if you are in new york city and coming to times square, come and have a great time. you know, let us do the worrying about the threat. so far we have detected or put down every plot against new york city and that's a record we're proud of. and we have invested more to continue to do that.
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>> yeah. i want to ask you this, and this happens here in new york city. there is a back and forth between your former commissioner, ray kelly you mentioned earlier. and talking about what he put in place and your boss, bill bratton. ray kelly says a 20% increase of homicides by guns and overall shootings is down. one is saying it's up and one is saying it's down. >> i'm not sure what commissioner kelly is talking about. a 20% increase in homicides by guns, while there's a decrease in homicides by knives. in a city of 8.5 million where the difference is a tiny handful, those are the normal ebbs and flows. the more important point is there is no way of counting or categorizing than any way it was under commissioner kelly's regime.
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these are the procedures we invented in the '90s where commissioner bratton constituin. and the same policies that commissioner kelly went by when he was in and we continue to use. it's hard to tell what he's talking about. >> and when i speak to him i will ask what he is talking about. happy new year. we'll see you out there or you can watch us here on cnn. we'll be covering. when we come back, another republican drops out of the presidential race and it's not donald trump. but he has a few things to say about his rivals tonight. don't go anywhere. looking for 24/7 digestive support? try align for a non-stop, sweet-treat-goodness hold-onto-your-tiara, kind-of-day. live 24/7 with 24/7 digestive support. try align, the undisputed #1 ge recommended probiotic. say they'll save youfor every by switching,surance companies you'd have like a ton of dollars.
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donald trump just wrapping
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up a rally in council bluff, iowa a little while ago and that brings us to the day in trump. >> i'm going to be in the white house. you're in the white house. it's a limited period of time. it's this gorgeous place. yes, smaller than some of my houses but these are minor details. >> that's awesome, right? joining me now is the senior strategist for rick santorum. and i mean, come on, guys, you can't beat that, right? so james, you first. let begin with breaking news, former governor george pataki drops out of the race. >> tonight is the end of the journey for the white house as i suspend my campaign for president. i'm confident we can elect the right person who can bring us together and understands that politicians including the
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president must be the people's servant and not their master. >> he made a series of calls today into new hampshire, he actually frankly started off in late may with a lot of support, surprising support along the new hampshire grass roots but the campaign was always seen as something and of a long shot. he was never able to raise money or get publicity. the thing that hurt him was the way the debates were set up. there were so many candidates running. he was always in the happy hour debate and never got the publicity or momentum going. tonight he had his two "h" minute ad. he had a deal with nbc where donald trump is on "saturday night live." so he was given equal time. so he used it to have a fireside chat with america, he will never
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able to happen for president. >> for "w" all due respect, does it really matter when he -- do people remember that he is in the race? >> they don't remember a lot of the people are in the race because we see donald trump everywhere. i think i saw that some place 78% of the news coverage has been about donald trump. and you know, i think that trump has figured out a way to game the political system like no one has everyone seen lane you can do it without spending money. i think that pataki was a great man and no one knew who he was. >> when will others start to drop out? >> i would be surprised before iowa, quite frankly. i think that everybody else there has been to the rodeo recently in one way or another. you know, santorum and huckabee won the last two iowa caucuses.
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you have john kasich and chris christie who have won gubernatorial races recent lily. i think that there will be surprises coming out of iowa. >> angela, what john just said who has been able to do with the media what donald trump has done. he was speaking tonight and talked about jeb bush on his plane. >> i will be spending a minimum of $2 million a week and perhaps substantially more than that. >> jeb has spent $40 million. >> he has wasted $40 million. >> why issed different for you? >> jeb has wasted $40 million >> first your reaction? >> he is absolutely right, unfortunately, jeb bush has not had traction in this campaign. >> should jeb bush be doing a pataki right now? >> i'm not sure. there is room for donald trump
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to make an error possibly. there is nothing that is sticking to that guy. i said recallier to someone, donald trump has become the donald sterling recording like in public. it's the craziest thing. he can say whatever he wants and it does not stick to him. i think it's really unfortunate that we've seen this burst of energy as we know donald trump has called him the low-energy candidate, really way too late. i'm interested to see what happens in iowa. ted cruz is beating, now, donald trump with a 10-point lead. >> he said spending a minimum of $2 million per week. why do you think, angela, this change in spending and ad strategy for trump? >> i think there are a couple of things. one is he knows he has to get more than 30% of republican support. he is in the high 30s nationally. but he has work to do in new hampshire. he has a lot of work to do in
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iowa. he has to make that up some way. not everyone is buying the make america great again hat. >> who was that trying to get in? >> it with u.as me. there is a connection between pataki and jeb bush which is the fact that neither have been in elected politics if after decade or so and the republican party has changed. they have not been in the game. we see a republican party that does not look at all or in some ways a lot like the republican party that they were elected to when they served as governors in their major states. >> john, we say where is the civility. you say there is lens sensitivity on the campaign trail this year. how many times have you thought that donald trump said something he wasn't going to recover from and he recovered and went up in the polls? >> thest if was what he said about john mccain. i thought uncon circumstantial
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that he would take someone who is a great american hero and said that he failed and most candidates say that they are out of the race in 24 hours. donald trump's numbers went up. and then it was carly fiorina and megyn kelly and recently, the clintons. what he has found is he can control the newsroom for 48 hours every time he says something controversial and it takes all the oxygen out and none of the candidates get to speak. >> speakig of the clintons, take a listen. >> are your own personal discretions fair game? >> yes, they would be. and hillary brought up the whole thing with sexist and i reversed it on her. she has a major problem that happens to be in her house. if she wants to do that, we're going to go right after the president, the ex-president and see how it all comes out. and i feel very confident it will come out very well for us. i will say this, the last person
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that hillary wants to run against is me. >> i'm wondering if this is a winning strategy from him. by the way, hillary clinton was asked today about this from a reporter and she ignored the question. would you advise her to respond and do you think this is a winning strategy for donald trump? >> the first part, i would advise her to respond but also to say in this era where women are just as powerful and have equal access to the white house i would advise her to say his personal indiscretions were not mine. i'm not accountable for my husband's actions. i have for given him and i'm ready to move on. it's time for the count to move on. i'm not responsible for that. you will not hold me accountable for that and that's the end of it. and as for donald trump and whether it's a winning strategy. it's a red herring. he has to be accountable. he had an affair. he is on marriage number three.
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we have had a divorced president with ronald reagan but not one that has been divorced and remarried three times. his mistress is several years his junior. i would say what do you have on me personally, right now you are talking about a man in the white house in the '90s and not me going to the white house. >> i don't understand why his personal affairs and you know, his mistress. i don't understand why that cell vent. >> he brought it up. if he is bringing up bill clinton's marry tall affairs and abuse of women is what he called it. not sexual arrasment charges and not an affair. if he brings that up he has to be accountable. >> i don't see why either is relevant. >> the trump show is the biggest hit in politics.
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but can he take it all the way to the white house? we'll talk about that. if he brings that up he has to if he brings that up he has to
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rewriting the rules of this campaign, but is this a good move or a bad move or a good thing or bad thing? my panel is back with me. we have talked about this, he done one-on-one interviews with tonight he held a media availability on his plane and in a rally. no other candidate does that. this strategy works for him. why aren't the other candidates trying to beat him at his own
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game? >> because he is running this campaign like he runs corporate affairs. the only thing that is different is i compared him to donald sterling earlier. if he said have of these things in his corporation he would have lawsuit after lawsuit. there is gender discrimination and racial discrimination at play and the issues with several people from foreign countries. i would say he is running this like he runs businesses and his corporate prowess is one that is hard to compete against with other candidates in the field. >> john, if another candidate started to take on donald trump's strategy of maximum air time. do you think they would have the same success? >> no. i don't think they can be as outrageous, quite frankly. i don't think they are bred that way. >> do they even have the energy? >> the phenomenon of donald
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trump it's not just donald trump it's understanding his supporters. they feel they have been disenfranchised from the republicans and the democrats. and it took the energy to galvanize from blue collar middle income people who feel that the parties brought them down. >> you have to separate the man from the supporters. we are talking about 40 years where the middle class has shrunk. where they had a loss of faith in institutions from the government to us in the press. >> isn't that the same message that bernie sanders has? >> absolutely 100%. and donald trump has been able to deliver that red meat particularly really well for the republican base right now with the added punch of this anger, particularly about the obama administration in particular. and people just want something to believe in or they're willing to say you know what, we're
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going to throw out everyone -- >> so the question is the people watching the trump show, these supporters as -- john said there is something different about the supporters, do you think they are going to turn out at the iowa caucus or new hampshire primary? >> i do think they will show up in new hampshire. he is likely to win the new hampshire primary. we are 43 days away. you have to tell me the reason why he's not going to win. he's been winning 27 straight polls in new hampshire since august. he is going to win new hampshire, iowa is a bigger question mark. ted cruz has a better ground game there. new hampshire is trump's fire wall. and the $2 million we don't know where he is going to spend it. to try to win iowa or leapfrog and go to south carolina, nevada or some of these s.e.c. primary dates? we don't know. >> can you answer the same question, are the people going the turn out to the primary and
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caucuses? >> only will, some won't. some aren't even republican. the party that probably makes me has a republican consultant the most nervous that says that wages are too high. if trump is the nominee we're going to see that line run over and over and over again into blue collar, middle class families and i'm very concerned about trump taking that position. >> i -- that's perfect segue to you, angela. he is saying that he has support from people who feel they were left out by the current system and the current two parties. >> 100% and he is preying on their fear. these are folks who are not living their american reality. they are living through donald trump's american dream. the reason he can -- >> what do you mean? >> meaning that -- >> they're life is very real. >> when we talk about wages are
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too high and it's not going to resonate. these folks would say, yeah, if businesses were paying the minimum wage they would have to go out of business. they're not realizing that they're the folks making minimum wage and they won't be able to survive off social security if something that happens to it. they are living out their potential dreams, hoping for a better tomorrow like donald trump with more money in their pockets and not realizing they are the folks. i remember as cbc executive director we went over this formula of the poorest congressional districts. they are really white. and i think we have to be very honest about why people are voting this way. this isn't just about, you know, donald trump is the best candidate. he is preying on the fears of american people who are concerned about what it may mean for a minority/majority country. and that is what this is about. he is preying on their american
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nightmare. >> james? >> when i go to these donald trump rallies and talk to supporters some do go as far as angela is saying. but a lot of them are happy with and you hear this at bernie sanders rallies also, they see someone they believe is speaking truth to power. it's not like they are living vie care usely through donald trump, they have someone who is telling the elite who is not helping them or not getting out of their way, they are happy that someone is telling them no and having fun with the clintons and chris christie. and the bare minimum level that is what a lot of this is going on. >> i have to say as someone -- people see me and say you have interviewed donald trump. i have interviewed him a couple crimes. this is unscientific. but everywhere i go, people from all stations of life,
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republican, democrat, black, white, asian, hispanic, they will come up to me and look over their shoulder and say you know what, i actually like the guy. i like he says what he says. some of the things i don't agree with him but i like the ability he can say what he wants and some say they are going to vote for him. it is surprising when you look at the demographics of people. it's not all angry white guys. it's not all angry white guys supporting donald trump. >> i have to disagree with you there is a broad swath of his base that is. i'm not saying that there aren't black or latino people that support him. but he is speaking -- the rhetoric, when we go back to 2010 and the tea party rose, taking our country back was loaded and coded language. we have to call it what it is. even john saying earlier he is speaking truth to power. some of that is not true but it is powerful because donald trump is a brand not just a candidate.
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>> i don't disagree on some of that. but i'm giving you the reality of the people who support him. liberals want to say he is appealing to just one sector. is it not true. go ahead, john. >> what i was going to say, you have to understand the anger that is out there and the symptom is how upset people are with washington. donald trump doing some of things he does would disqualify him in normal situations but it shows he is not a politician who is scripted and focus group tested. people are saying they want the real deal. that is something he is is authentic. the question is should he be president? >> and is that necessarily going to change into votes when people go to the voting booth? are they going to vote for his ability to say what he wants. appreciate it. happy new year. coming up, they say jus sis is blind.
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we talk a lot in this country about liberty and justice for all, but does justice depend on where you were born. and if you are surrounded by violence, do you suffer
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permanent damage? >> reporter: drug deelg, murder, poverty and gangsta rap. straight out of compton, compton is troubled. its murder rate is five times that of the national average as theen two compton teenagers say the film reflects their reality. >> they are shooting, daytime, nighttimes, kids, moms, parents, grandpas. they don't care. >> his brother says they have seen the results in terrifying detail. >> i was coming home from school and a hispanic guy had an african-american guy on his knees and he blew his head off. >> how did you reabout it to? >> i threw up for three hours. >> i seen someone get shot and seen someone dragged across a field and be hit in the head with a shotgun and get shot. it was a group of three people and nobody did nothing. >> reporter: and they were expected to learn just like everyone else in school.
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that is impossible according to a first of its kind class action lawsuit they are a part of. >> these children are as a matter of brain science unable to learn. >> reporter: the lawsuit says that the students should be classified as disabled. like children with autism. its intent is to get compton schools to provide more counsellors and teacher training to recognize the damage trauma can do. the lawsuit site saying that trauma can rewire a child's brain causing them to overreact, have violent outbursts or withdraw so they are suspended and expelled more often than other students. >> there is a scientific case medical case to be made that children who are exposed to adverse experiences are disabled. >> reporter: dr. robert ross is the head of the california endowment and a trained pediatrician. >> if you compare brain tests,
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for example, c.a.t. scans of brains of two 3-years-old one who has been exposed to abuse, trauma or negligent, the brains look different. >> five students and three teachers have joined the lawsuit. what does the school district think of the lawsuit? we asked the president of the school board. >> the school board agrees that trauma within children must be addressed. >> reporter: but he disagrees using a lawsuit. >> these families are in need. these families are not interested in lawyers making a tremendous amount of money on the backs of poor, black, and brown people. >> reporter: the district is well aware that this lawsuit didn't originate with students and teachers but lawyers and experts who are trying to bring attention and change to an issue they see as a crisis.
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but the district says what they are asking for and the money they sued over could cripple the district. >> it would decimate the school district and adversely impact people who the individuals who filed the lawsuit are asserting they would like to help. >> reporter: the district says it has already been working to deal with trauma in children. the two brothers who joined the lawsuit say they have been suspended for fighting and shuttled through three high schools. >> schools don't take mental problems into considerations. >> reporter: but when we asked if they would talk at the school. >> i ain't going to talk to nobody. >> reporter: the potential solution comes with problems of its own. >> very interesting. we want to talk about this now. alan dershowitz is here. his book is "abraham" and also charles blow whose book is --
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>> this is the first time i have said it on the air. >> wow. >> i like that title as well. and i like the book as well. that lawsuit is still going on. what do you think of the lawsuit and the approaches should there be different approaches based on neighborhoods as to how students learn? >> i think the science is solid here. the only question is do you pursue it through a lawsuit or work with the school district to accomplish it. bankrupting the school district hurts more children. that's a problem. but identifying that there is a problem and that this is a long-term problem, and that you know, that black and brown people did not wake up one day and decide to move into the poorest, most violent parts of our cities across this country, those ghettos are created by design, with red lining and through diskrim neighbor housing
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policies and discriminatory house and hierg policies. this is our baby. >> and to think there is not an effect from that. >> that's right. this is america's creation. we have to fix it. >> i agree we have to address the problem. what i'm worried about is creating a whole category of people based on race and calling them disabled. that could really, really cut the other way. it could be misunderstood. it could -- >> how so? >> you're telling people that a whole group of people are disabled which means that maybe they can't get out of the situation that they're in. and we have seen historically that there are many, many people -- not enough -- who get out of it who come out of it without being damaged and don't want to be called disabled and treated in a patronizing way it. it has to be a individual matter. >> the lawsuit is ongoing and we will continue to talk about
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this. especially when they figure out what is happening with that lawsuit. stay with me. when we come back, that affluenza teen, ethan couch captured in mexico. but will he get off easy again? tucson. blew an amp.but good nights. sure,music's why we do this,but it's still our business. we spend days booking gigs, then we've gotta put in the miles to get there. but it's not without its perks. like seeing our album sales go through the roof enough to finally start paying meg's little brother- i mean,our new tour manager-with real,actual money. we run on quickbooks.that's how we own it. say they'll save youfor every by switching,surance companies you'd have like a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um..." or "no comment". then there's esurance - born online, raised by technology and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save:
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we have breaking news tonight. ethan couch, the affluenza expected to return to the united states tomorrow. he was caught in mexico, him and his mom. back with me now, alan dershowitz and charles blow. considering the circumstances he got ten years probation. >> we have a broken system of justice. we elect judges and prosecutors which is a disgrace. we are the only democracy in the world that makes our criminal justice system political. secondly we have a grand jury system that doesn't work. we have a criminal justice system that is multiply tiered. rich people never get the death penalty and hardly ever get shot by the police. we have a broken system. when you is a system that is broken, the poor are the real losers. >> what does it say about the
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justice system? >> i think we have two cases, right? >> we're going to talk about tamir rice. >> there is a poetic traumatic symmetry. when you have a system bending over backwards to be lenient to kid who killed and maimed over people and bending over backwards to not charge officers who shot a 12-year-old who had a toy gun and the fact they are happening at the same time is what you were talking about. it's a broken system. and it's broken by design. i believe it is working the way we have design -- set it up and tweaked it to work. that we have -- we had a flood the poor neighborhoods with cops and we insulate them from culpability as much as we can.
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and that does not happen in wealthier neighborhoods. >> and you just voiced similar sentiments as him. we have most legal experts even mark o'maeara, they will all sa the system is broken. minorities are treated differently. when you look at what happened in ohio, what do you make of this case? >> nobody has faith in the system in ohio, nobody has faith in the process which produced no indictment. i think the result may have been correct. when you look at the video and look at the gun in his hand and know what the policemen were and weren't total and you take the seriousness of the situation it may have been the right decision not to indict this person and certainly not to convict him
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even though in retrospect no one can justify the shooting of this young man. but the process is so broken i don't blame the people for not trusting the result. even though the result may be if we had a good system the result may be the right one. >> charles? >> i can't say how you do not apply some level of negligent from the moment that they get the call. barrelling across that playground with children in it is negligent. jumping out and saying that you told that kid three times in 1.5 seconds which i cannot believe is true and you shot him immediately without allowing him the time to comply is negligent. not administering aid to him after you realized he is now a child because his sister says you shot my little brother and not saying we will administer
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said is negligent. so what i'm telling you is that maybe, there's a lot of miscues leading up to that shooting. but the negligent piece of it is indisputable to me. >> i think there is no question there is negligence in not informing the police that the 911 call said it wias a toy gun >> imagine in police had withheld fire and this man had a gun and killed two or three children we would be looking at it different. we have to look through the eyes of the police at the moment they had to make a decision. i agree. i think they lied about what happened and there was negligence after the fact but you have to look at that one second where police was saying to himself, here is a guy, he sees him as a man with a gunpointing at kids. do you shoot or do you not
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shoot? it's a difficult decision. >> what we know is because there were kids in the playground at the moment he was there and it took them minutes to get there and when they arrived if they had looked at the scene none of the kids were running away from tamir because none of them felt they were in any danger. there are moments when you sake a breath before you shoot somebody. you cannot take a bullet back. before you shoot somebody you take a breath to say let me assess the situation. let me not jump out with my hand on the trigger and shoot somebody. >> you talked about compassion. your compassion didn't drain out of you why didn't you administer help once you realized this is a toy gun. >> right. not only did you -- there were three waves of relatives that show up. his sister, then his older brother and his mother and you
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are standing around not administering aid and all of them are telling you this is my baby. >> that's all true. but it doesn't get to the one instant when they had to make this decision. and remember, too, even if you are convincing that he is probably guilty, they are probably guilty it's not enough. it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. >> did not have to prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> we will be right back. whei just put in the namey, of my parents and my grandparents. and as soon as i did that, literally it was like you're getting 7, 9, 10, 15 leaves that are just popping up all over the place. yeah, it was amazing. just with a little bit of information, you can take leaps and bounds. it's an awesome experience. i've got two reasons to take that's why i take meta. meta is clinically proven to help lower cholesterol. try meta today. and for a tasty heart healthy snack,
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good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for anderson. we begin with breaking news. the storm system that has already claimed dozens of lives have threatened to put a big swath in the country by new year's. 18 million are in a difficult situation. 16 counties are facing severe flooding. that has broken one 25-year-old record. governor jay nixon said this earlier today. >> you are talking about almost s 10 more vertical feet of moving water. po

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