tv The Lead With Jake Tapper CNN January 4, 2016 1:00pm-2:01pm PST
>> jake, you know as bad as the selloff looks as we watch the closing bell ring right now, you can certainly call the dow the comeback kid because the dow closing down only 280 points as opposed to 468 that we saw earlier today. most of this being caused by what happened in china overnight. a blood bath in the markets there. so bad that stocks in china are falling so fast and so much they went ahead and closed the market so everybody could take a breath. you know, there's a saying here on wall street, if china starts to sneeze, we could get a cold. meaning what happens in china could bleed over here into the u.s., meaning their slowdown. that's the worry we felt here in the market today. and there's a reality to that because china is one of the u.s.'s biggest trading partners. and a lot of u.s. companies have big exposure in china. household names like apple and tiffany, walmart and starbucks. so you saw that worry flow through the market. although this isn't a new worry, so a new year all worries when
it comes to china, jake. >> alison, how much are analysts concerned this is a harbinger of potentially painful year to come especially for people's savings? >> that's a good point. because even at the end of 2015 we saw that the markets really couldn't pull off a good year. the dow, the s&p 500 ending in the red. already you've got analysts predicting that 2016 will be a choppy, low returns and kind of tepid year for investors. but one thing to think about, there's yet one more saying i'll give you here that we say on wall street, as goes january so goes the year. that happens 70% of the time. look, we had a rough first day trading day of january. we've got a full month to go. i say fingers crossed. >> all right, alison kosik, thank you so much. let's get right to our politics lead now. for all the candidates this election season who said, hey, it's still too early to predict what's going to happen, or i still have time, or, you know, it's the voters, they're still making up their minds, or no one
gets serious about elections until after the holidays, and on and on. guess what, guys, it's after the holidays. it's serious. it's 28 days until the iowa caucuses. hillary clinton, ted cruz, marco rubio, john kasich, mike huckabee, all descending on the hawkeye state today. cnn political reporter sara murray is right across the border of first in the state new hampshire primary that's where we find front-runner donald trump. he rang in the new year with his first tv ads. and instead of a biographical ad or list of accomplishments, this is list of most controversial, some might say outrageous proposals. >> that's rieg. these are the comments that would have sunk any traditional candidates. ones that even had members of his own party backing away from the republican front-runner. but trump's thot backing away from them. they are all in his latest ad.
>> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> reporter: just four weeks out from iowa, gop candidates hitting the hustings as donald trump lights up the air waves. trump releasing his first tv ad aimed at iowa and new hampshire. not showcasing anything new but rather doubling down with dollars on his most controversial statements. the muslim ban, widely criticized as religious discrimination by republicans from paul ryan to dick cheney. >> he keeps signing executive orders because he doesn't meet with people. i don't know, he doesn't like people i guess. >> reporter: today trump showing no sign of slowing, ramping up his criticism of president obama's upcoming executive action on guns. but perhaps overstating their impact. >> pretty soon you won't be able to get guns. >> reporter: and claiming gun-free zones make it harder to keep americans safe. >> whenever i see gun-free zone, i see a flag for the wacos to
come in and shoot people. >> reporter: trump betting tone and $2 million a week in advertising could push him to a victory as his closest competitor takes a different tact. >> if every one of you gets nine other people to show up at caucus, you have voted ten times. that's how we win iowa. that's how we win the primary. >> reporter: ted cruz kicking off a six-day 36-county tour of iowa. still playing nice with trump as his super pac takes shots at marco rubio. >> i know i have a debate, but i got to get this fantasy football thing right. >> reporter: rubio's team defending their light hearted video and firing back at cruz over his pop culture proclivities. >> do not say that name. i can't hear you. >> reporter: rubio's senior adviser tweeting fantasy football unpresidential, but quoting entire scenes from princess bride is, what, reagan-esque? the target on cruz's back
growing as iowa nears. 2012 iowa caucus winner, rick santorum, mocking filibustering in a new tv ad. >> i do not like green eggs and ham, i do not like them, sam i am. >> you want someone to read one hell of a bedtime story, ted cruz is your guy. if you want to protect america and defeat isis, rick santorum's your president. >> reporter: while rubio takes his own backhanded shots. >> words and political stunts cannot ensure our security. isis cannot be filibustered. >> reporter: the battle for the establishment crowd growing more pinched as both rubio and chris christie sharpen their tone to cast themselves as the serious alternatives to trump. >> these times and these challenges demand a grown-up. showtime is over, everybody. we are not electing an entertainer in chief. >> now, not everything in that donald trump ad is exactly how it appears. remember those images of people surging across the border? in fact, those are from morocco.
and when i spoke to the trump campaign manager about this, he said, no kidding, but he used more colorful language. he said they chose that footage intentionally to show what the u.s. would look like if we don't deal with immigration and build a wall along the southern border, jake. >> sara murray, thanks so much. a sit-down with dr. penn carson whose headline is saying new year, new me. i sat down with the renowned neurosurgeon today after three high ranking members of his staff resigned after he announced there would be shakeups and after he went from leading donald trump nationally two months ago to barely scraping double digits in the latest cnn/orc poll. but we started discussions with some events in the news including the showdown between u.s. law enforcement and the armed anti-government gang that has seized control of a federal building in oregon.
how should the situation be resolved? >> well, you know, the tendency for everybody is to, you know, come down on one side or the other side. government's bad. these people are bad. i would think that we should try to look at things from both perspectiv perspectives. why in fact do these ranchers feel that way? let's hear their grievances. i don't condone them taking over, you know, federal building. you know, we have better ways of expressing our displeasure than that. but the fact of the matter is there are legitimate grievances. you know, there's absolutely no reason that the federal government should lay claim to so much land. i believe it would be a very wise thing to begin to gradually get that land back in the hands of the states and then let the states deal with it in an appropriate way. you can't just turn it all over because of the expense would be too great for any of the states to handle. but, you know, these are things that we need to start talking
about. and, you know, the people also need to recognize that, you know, we do have a federal government for a reason. we need to respect them. we need to use their regular channels for dealing with the problems that are occurring. >> obviously a lot of the tension going on right now in the middle east. relations between iran and saudi arabia, some other sunni nations have severed or reduced diplomatic relations with iran. what do you make of this? what do you make of what iran is calling a provocation in terms of the execution of one of the shia clerics in saudi arabia. how would you resolve this as president? >> well, you know, obviously i'm not in favor of the execution of anybody under those kind of circumstances. these are political executions. however, i would hasten to say that, you know, our embrace of
iran is probably not helping the situation because i think it's creating more fear. you know, throughout the whole area. >> how do you view saudi arabia as an ally? there's an interesting article, profile of senator -- i'm sorry, secretary kerry in the new yorker in which it talked about some of the tensions going on between saudi arabia and iran and discussions about syria. and one of the things that iran pointed out during these discussions that got quite heated were, hey, majority of the 9/11 hijackers didn't come from iran. they came from saudi arabia. how do you view saudi arabia as an ally? >> they are our ally. do they do everything the way that we would like it done? absolutely not. do we align philosophically on everything? absolutely not. but that's no reason for us to, you know, toss them under the bus. we need to be working with them. we need to be strengthening those relationships. i have a strong feeling that if,
you know, our traditional allies in the region had full faith and confidence in us that we wouldn't like turn our backs on them like we have on israel, i think they would be much more enthusiastic about supporting anything that we called for. >> president obama is set to announce executive actions having to do with further restrictions on gun ownership, the details haven't been forthcoming but our understanding is it may have something to do with closing the so-called gun show loophole and expanding background checks. what do you think about such measures? >> well, you know, i believe very strongly that we have to be responsible as a society. there's no question about that. and i don't think there's anybody who wants dangerous weapons in the hands of, you know, dangerous criminals and mentally unstable people. but we also have to recognize where is this coming from? this is coming from a president
who said, if you like your doctor, you can keep them. if you like your insurance company, you can keep them. now this like saying if you like your gun, you can keep it. i don't know if i completely trust that. this is something that needs to be worked out with congress, with the people who represent all of us. this is not something that needs to be done by executive order. >> someone who was a surgeon at john hopkins in baltimore certainly doesn't need me to talk about what gun violence can do and what gun violence does to young people and to innocent people. do you think that if one works with congress expanding background checking or closing the gun show loophole are acceptab acceptable? >> i think, again, this is a societal issue and it should be handled by us as a society. and not by executive order. so certainly, yes, working with congress, coming up with reasonable safeguards.
i don't know anybody on this issue on the republican side quite frankly who is totally unreasonable who's not willing to sit down and talk about those kinds of things. >> with just four weeks before the iowa caucuses, why did dr. ben carson shake up the top ranks of his campaign staff? that subject next after this quick break.
all played out as a very public spat. when i sat down today with dr. carson and his new campaign chairman retired general manager bob dees in their virginia campaign headquarters, i asked about the campaign's messy shakeup. what wasn't happening that needed to have been happening? >> operations. the ability to execute. there's a special talent involved in execution. and a lot of people in politics, in medicine, in law -- in everything, don't have that ability. doesn't mean they're not good people. it means you need to add that in. >> one of the things that we've heard in criticisms from people who used to be running your campaign, barry bennett and others, is the way that the staff changes were announced don't speak well of your management style. their criticisms, not mine. what do you say to that? >> could it have been done better? absolutely.
are we perfect? absolutely not. did we need to make these changes? absolutely yes. >> what did you learn from the experience of the last week or so changing your staff that next time you have such a challenge you will do it differently? >> well, hopefully there won't be anymore challenges like that, particularly during this. >> well, let me say something, if you win the presidency, sir, there are going to be plenty of challenges and plenty of staff shakeups. >> but you're never going to be able to do a shakeup in a way that will please everybody. almost by definition that's not going to happen. so the key thing is you have to know what it is you're trying to accomplish. you have to have a timeline and a mechanism for executing. and you have to have a number of backup plans. you don't ever want to be caught flat footed or by surprised. >> we're going to be far more forward leaning. we're going to get out the word. we're going to work with the medium in a more friendly way so that they can understand the true nature of dr. ben carson.
you know, the question one would ask is it about volume or about values? is it about wild proclamations or about policy that leads us to moral high ground as american sns is it about a temptist or temp temperament. >> the words you're using in terms of contrast seem to be drawing an implicit contrast with the front-runner nationally and most of the states donald trump. that seemed to be what you were just saying when you were talking about tempest versus temperame temperament. why not come out and say that? >> well, i would rather and i know dr. carson would rather we the people of america, we the people around the kitchen table and in their living rooms to discuss these things. >> general dees, i believe that there is in addition to many other bonds, one of the bonds that you two have is one of faith. >> uh-huh. >> the former campaign manager said that an interview dr.
carson did with sally quinn, in which he said he doesn't believe in the rapture or hell, i believe. >> uh-huh. >> was damaging. that's what the former campaign manager said. do you think it was damaging? and what do the religious voters out there need to know about dr. carson? >> well, first, i think we need to correct the false narratives about dr. carson. every time he's labeled as such, we discover later that that's not truly the case. dr. carson is a man who believes in the divinity of jesus christ. he's a man who believes in mainstream doctrine. and as far as i'm concerned and he's concerned, we want to major on the majors. clearly there's lots of different denominations. there shouldn't be di visiveness within the body of christ. and there's room for latitude in many areas. i think dr. carson is a wonderful man of faith. >> and just to add onto that, a lot of times when people say things, they take them completely out of context.
so, you know, they come and say i don't believe in the rapture. i don't believe in a secret rapture where people just -- he's sitting here one minute and he disappears. i believe in what the bible says and the book where he will come, everybody will see him, people will be raised from the dead, called up. i believe what the bible says. and, you know, as far as hell is concerned, everybody has a different concept of what hell is. i personally don't believe in the situation where there's this dungeon and a bunch of little minions poking people forever and ever and burning them. that's inconsistent with the character of god. and that's not what the bible says. >> you've said, general, that social experimentation within our military is weakening the nation. what do you mean by that? >> everyone is not good at everything. and a lot of times because of perhaps what some would call social engineering, we have
tried experiments within the military such as the role of women in combat. certainly some women can perform well in combat under certain task. but if you look at the population demographics, most women -- i mean, you're talking thousands, cannot properly carry a 230-pound soldier with rug sack and combat vest on off of the battlefield to save his life. and so there are just certain realities where men can do certain things better. women can do certain things better. >> how would that philosophy apply to gays and lesbians in the military serving openly? >> well, i think the first priority again is cohesion. the second priority would be that the commander in chief listen to the best military advice. so on a number of these social issues the best military advice has been thwarted and the administration has said do this,
do this, do this, apart from military and defense considerations as a priority. >> if you were president, sir, would you contemplate bringing back a ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military if that's what military advisers including general dees told you to do? would you favor rolling back some of the programs that have been opened up for women, if you were convinced by individuals like general dees that they were done for social experimentation and women were not up for the task? >> one of the things that i learned in a long medical career is that you make decisions based on evidence and not on ideology. so, yes, i would be willing to sit down with people from both sides and examine the evidence and make decisions based on what the evidence shows. >> dr. carson, general dees, appreciate you're taking the
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i'm jake tapper. in aour national lead, a group f protesters took over a federal building in oregon, they are armed, they are angry and they are not going anywhere, they say. that showdown continues into day three at this hour. the leader of the self-proclaimed citizens for constitutional freedom just held a press conference earlier this afternoon to try to explain the group's demands while federal law enforcement officials are simultaneously strategizing on how to end this showdown while hoping that the situation de-escalates before someone uses one of those guns. the american flag is center stage, watchmen are on post, and armed protesters have said they aren't leaving an unused building in a federal wildlife refuge in oregon until they get what they want. >> our purpose as we have shown is to restore and defend the constitution. >> reporter: this land belongs
to the u.s. government, but the anti-government group that is now occupied a building here for nearly three days, says the federal government is unfairly taking that resource, that land from the people. >> they are coming down into the states and taking over the land and the resources, putting the people into duress. >> reporter: federal law enforcement hoping to avoid the kind of violence seen in the ruby ridge or waco standoffs are not visible. >> the u.s. government is acting outside the authority enumerated in the constitution of the united states. >> reporter: the current protest was sparked by the sentencing of two oregon ranchers in nearby harney county, dwight hammond and his son due to spend five years in jail for burning federal land and plan to turn themselves in today. >> it isn't my decision, obviously. it's a sentence. >> reporter: the hammonds say a blaze on their own property simply got out of hand. the u.s. attorney in oregon says the blaze was purposely set to hide evidence of their poaching.
>> it has been left to us to decide whether we allow these things to go on or whether we make a stand so they will not happen to other people across this country. >> reporter: the hammonds have the support of the community but are distancing themselves now from those who have taken up arms on their behalf, many of whom are from out of stand. ammon bundy is leading the group. he and his brother have confronted the u.s. government with arms over land issues before. their father is cliven bundy, the infamous nevada bureau who fought in 2013 for grazing rights for his cattle. >> my goal in this is to be a rancher. >> reporter: this group rejects labels such as militia. >> i'm just a simple hick and doing the best i can. >> reporter: but experts disagree. >> i would say it's peaceful protesters mixed in with violent domestic terrorists with alter
plans and you have a small percentage ready to go to the end and then you have the bigger percentage that are getting scared and like, oh, my gosh, what have i gotten myself into. >> reporter: former fbi officer embedded with anti-government groups before and says this is a dangerous scenario. >> it's a powder keg now and it has to be handled with great care and sensitivity. >> also in national news today moments ago a high level meeting between president obama and attorney general loretta lynch concluded on the say general da of president obama's pending executive action on guns. the president wants to take unilateral action to impose new restrictions on gun sales. let's bring in cnn white house correspondent michelle ka sin ski. >> this has been a pretty long time coming. remember three years ago the president took executive action on guns, dozens of them in fact. but they didn't go very far.
and the president said, you know, i'm limited in what i can do unilaterally. and then just a few months ago he and his team said, okay, let's go back and scrub the law, as they put it. and see what else we might be able to do within those corners of existing laws. so by definition this is going to be pretty limited. i mean, we're talking now the margins of the margins of what he can do within his legal authority. but, you know, if he does what some have recommended -- i mean, let's say he expands background checks for people who are now considered to be private sellers, and if they put a number on it like people who sell more than 50 guns a year now they're going to have to be background checks involved. we could be talking a large number of people here overall. and that's enough to already be drawing the ire of opponents. but here's what president obama said earlier today about it. >> these are not only recommendations that are well within my legal authority, and
the executive branch, but they're also ones that the overwhelming majority of the american people including gun owners support and believe in. i'm also confident that the recommendations that are being made by my team here are ones that are entirely consistent with the second amendment and people's lawful right to bear arms. >> reporter: we expect a lot more detail from the white house this evening, but the president did say he's going to unveil this over coming days, plural, and it's going to involve initiatives, plural, so it's safe to assume this is going to involve more than only background checks. it could be more funding for agencies. additional enforcement of existing laws, possibly more tracking of lost and stolen guns. we're waiting for him to announce those details soon, jake. >> michelle kosinski, thank you so much.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. topping our world lead today, growing fears in the u.s. over an escalating showdown between two rival muslim super powers in the middle east. saudi arabia today suspending all flights to and from iran. the move comes after the saudis officially severed diplomat ties with its gulf rival yesterday. that's after iranian protesters raided and attacked the saudi
embassy in tehran with molotov cocktails. this latest confrontation was sparked when saudi arabia executed sheikh nimr al nimr, a prominent shia cleric with ties to iran. all this bad blood could have serious implications in the american-led fight against isis as well as general stability in the region. let's get right to regional foreign affairs correspondent elise labott. >> three nations in the middle east, as nations take sides, bahrain, sudan and the united arab emirates, all sunni or severed or downgraded ties with iran as the two countries faceoff tonight fears in washington, the fallout of direct confrontation between these two major power brokers could see the region spiral out of control. in baghdad today, protesters chanted no as they stormed the saudi ambassador's residence.
a similar scene in tehran where protesters there returned to the saudi embassy after ransacking and torching it over the weekend. what is quickly becoming a crisis that could pull america further into a centuries old middle east conflict. tonight, one of america's most entrenched foes is in a showdown with one of its staunchest allies. iran is promising vengeance after the saudi government beheaded this cleric, nimr al nimr called a terrorist, he like much of iran's population was a shiite muslim. and his killing enflamed that country, leading to protests and the brutal attack on the saudi embassy. >> we will not allow iran to destabilize our region. >> reporter: tonight, the backlash against iran is growing. saudi arabia cut diplomatic relations with tehran. and today three sunni-arab countries, bahrain, sudan and the united arab emirates joined them, severing or downgrading ties with tehran and recalling
their ambassadors. >> the cutting off of diplomatic ties with iran is in reaction to iran's aggressive policies over the years and in particular over the past few months. >> reporter: since the american-led nuclear deal with iran this spring, tensions between the countries have boiled over. each backing opposite factions in conflicts throughout the region from yemen to the bloody civil war in syria, where iran's support for syrian president assad has fueled saudi anger. >> if they grow further apart, if they're not talking, if they're fighting through proxies in places like syria and yemen, and they are, it means unfortunately that the next several months we should expect to see more violence, more dead, more refugees coming out of syria. >> reporter: tonight, secretary of state john kerry is trying to get the countries to talk in an attempt to stave off war between two of the most heavily armed countries in the middle east. >> what we want to see is tensions reduced, we want to see dialogue restored and try to get a resolution to these things
peacefully, diplomatically and without violence. >> now, the u.s. walking a fine line here. the obama administration had voiced concern even before the execution of this cleric that that move would enflame tensions in the middle east. but now the u.s. pointedly not criticizing the decision just voicing concern about the saudi legal process and saying it is unhelpful to security and stability in the region. saudi arabia still a very important ally to the u.s., jake. >> all right. elise labott, thank you so much. let's talk more about this with david ignatius, foreign affairs columnist for "the washington post." explain to our viewers why this growing battle between iran and saudi arabia is potentially so significant. >> it's significant because it's leading to a proxy war that is ripping the middle east apart. the fighting is in syria, just a disastrous war that's killed over 250,000. fundamentally is a proxy war between saudi arabia and the sunni world and iran and the shiite world.
there's a hot war in yemen in which saudi uae forces are bombing and on the ground fighting what they claim is an iranian backed houthi rebel movement. my biggest worry is that this tension blows up the best hope the u.s. had for reducing the level of violence in the middle east, the diplomatic relations secretary kerry has been trying to do. they've had two meetings, one more scheduled for the end of this month, what's going to happen with that obviously nobody knows. >> so tensions are centuries old between sunni and shia. do you expect a direct military confrontation between iran and saudi arabia? is that seriously in the cards? >> these two countries have
preferred to fight their wars using other forces, as in syria, as in yemen to use proxy forces. and i think a direct confrontation is unlikely. that said, we've seen a series of miscalculations, i would say especially by saudi arabia in the last few days that have sharply escalated the level of tensions. so you'd have to say all bets are off. the problem here in part is that saudi arabia has lost confidence in its traditional ally and military backer, the united states. relations between saudi arabia and the obama administration are just terrible. and i think that's part of why the saudis are striking out on their own to show their people, the arab world that they can fight their own battles. >> how much of the reason for the breakdown in confidence that the saudi leadership has for the united states for president obama? how much of that is because of the red line president obama marked when it came to assad
using chemical weapons in syria and then didn't actually follow through with any military action against assad? >> i think that was part of the saudi loss of confidence that the u.s. was prepared to use military force, but truly this dates back to the ouster under american pressure of president hosni nmubarak in egypt. and the saudis basically said if the americans would do this to mubarak, what would they do to us? and i think it led to a fundamental breach in the trust and confidence. still haven't really recovered from it. >> and how could this impact the u.s.-led coalition against isis? >> isis is the primary beneficiary of this tension. as the middle east rips apart along sectarian lines, that's basically isis' strategy come true. isis and its fore bearer, al qaeda and iraq, sought as their goal to create a shiite-sunni sectarian war in iraq.
they succeeded in iraq. there was a civil war. the united states succeeded in calming it down. they then have moved into syria where there is a essentially shiite-sunni sectarian war and they're succeeding there. it's spread to yemen. so the great beneficiary here, tragically, is the most extreme faction. and that's why my contacts in the white house and the state department were really anxious last night about the consequences of this. >> all right. david ignatius, thanks so much for your insight. i appreciate it. >> thanks, jake. in politics, bill clinton out on the campaign trail taking aim at the republican candidates. what did he say? that's next. plus, donald trump's first tv ad of the election and he is hardly shying away from his most controversial proposals of the campaign. will this help him or hurt him? can anything hurt him? across america, people like basketball hall of famer dominique wilkins... ...are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes... ...with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar.
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welcome back to "the lead." more now in our politics lead. hillary clinton is letting the big dog out. her husband, the 42nd president of the united states, bill clinton, he hit the campaign trail in his first solo appearance this cycle. president clinton parachuting into new hampshire this morning trying to sway voters to support the former secretary of state, his wife. she right now seems vulnerable in the granite state as she is running neck and neck with senator bernie sanders of neighboring vermont. cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar is tagging along with bill clinton today. brianna, president clinton reemerging in 2016, he's still nearly universally loved by democrats, but donald trump has painted him in recent days as a, quote, abuser of women. now, those are charges the
clinton team vehemently denies,
have for years. a reporter today asking president clinton if those past allegations against him are fair game? what did he have to say? >> reporter: he pretty much dodged the question, jake. he punted actually to republicans saying they will have to decide. he said he is just here in new hampshire to convince democrats in the country that hillary clinton will be the best president. that said, even though he really didn't answer that question directly, it was pretty fascinating that in his first event -- we're actually here at his second, he made a number of thinly veiled jabs at donald trump. bill clinton finally on the campaign trail making the case for his wife. >> i do not believe in my lifeti lifetime anybody has run for this job at a moment of great importance who was better qualified by knowledge, experience and temperament to do what needs to be done now --
>> reporter: the former president in new hampshire as donald trump puts his past sex scandals front and center. >> she used the word sexist, i'm sexist. and she was using very sort of derogatory terms. i said how the hell can she do that when she's got one of the great women abusers of all-time sitting at her house? >> reporter: clinton didn't directly respond but made veiled references to trump. >> every presidential election people run, and believe it or not it's kind of scary this year, but believe it or not most everybody actually tries to do what they say they're going to do when they're running. >> reporter: bad blood between old friends, trump explained his formerly friendly ties with the clintons. >> as a businessman i got along with everybody. i did well. nobody did it better than me. i got along with everybody. it was my obligation to my company and family and myself to get along with clinton and to get along with every person that i needed to get along with. >> reporter: as trump tries to
make the former president a liability, hillary clinton was even heckled by a republican legislator about her husband's past while campaigning this weekend. >> you are very rude. and i'm not going to ever call on you. thank you. >> reporter: but the clinton campaign considers him a huge asset with high approval ratings and a long history in the granite state. >> new hampshire, tonight has made bill clinton the comeback kid. >> reporter: his second place finish here in 1992 was key as news of an affair with jennifer flowers and draft dodging allegations threaten to torpedo his candidacy. though in 2008 he hurt his wife's campaign with stinging comments about then-senator barack obama. >> this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> reporter: with bernie sanders making his strongest challenge to hillary clinton in new hampshire, she's banking on the controlled messenger who delivered for president obama in 2012. >> is the president satisfied? of course not. but are we better off than we
were when he took office? >> reporter: now, most republicans as in republican candidates i should say, as in all of them except for donald trump, don't seem to think that revisiting bill clinton's past infidelities makes for a good campaign strategy. some of them though are hitting him, chris christie for instance kind of describing this as a choice between new and old, lumping hillary clinton in with bill clinton, today, jake, saying we've seen this act before. we've lived this act for eight years. >> all right, brianna, thank you so much. let's talk about everything 2016 with cnn political commentator patty solis doyle, she managed hillary clinton's 2008 bid, also phil muster, former adviser to mitt romney who is unaffiliated this campaign season. thanks to both of you for being here. so bill clinton was asked on a rope line today about are these allegations, et cetera, are they fair game and he dodged it. is that the right thing to do? or at some point is he going to need to say something about
these charges coming from trump? >> you know, look, i think this is fair game for donald trump. i think attacking mexicans are fair game for donald trump. i think attacking muslims is fair game for donald trump. this will probably help donald trump with his supporters. they're going to -- they likely don't like the clintons and they're going to like him even more. but for hillary these are -- her supporters are going to rally to her defense. so i don't think this is going to be helpful for donald trump in a general election should he be the nominee against hillary clinton. >> one of the reasons why trump is doing so well, phil, is that a lot of the republican base is angry at republican leaders. angry at mitt romney, john mccain, and paul ryan, john boehner. and republicans who haven't wanted to go after bill clinton about these types of things. and so i agree with patti this will probably make him more popular with people who like he says these things. why have republicans, not trump
republicans, why have they steered away from these allegations, indiscretions, et cetera, about bill clinton, is it because it's kind of politically correct not to do or is it not smart politic sns. >> well, i think it's a rerun of the fast. elections are fundamentally about the future and you want to talk about what's happened next. what donald trump has done in this election cycle is any time you make a conjecture about donald trump he's pretty much going to answer you back. so he was called a sexist, so i think in donald trump's mind he's basically raising clinton episodes from decades ago as fair game. whether that's smart politics i don't know. i think the danger for the clinton campaign here is twofold, right? first is that the president overshadows the first lady and second he makes a tactical mistake and gets goaded by donald trump who might call him low energy next time and start to pick a fight. what does that do? it highlights a contrast of strength versus two political dynasties in america, a new one and old one. that's part of the message we're seeing with the change here too.
>> that had been part of the debate in 2008 when you were trying to decide tactically how much to use bill clinton. great strengths, also great potential liabilities. we saw some of them in brianna's piece right then. >> absolutely. it was a point of debate in our own campaign in 2008. where to use them, how to use them. when he said some of the things that he shouldn't have said, i think he was defending hillary clinton in 2008. he took it personally. and that's something he probably shouldn't have done. he said some things that hurt her and hurt the campaign. but he's really, really smart. and i don't think he'll make those same mistakes in this race. go ahead. >> let's talk about donald trump if we can. he has this new ad and it runs right for the most controversial things he has proposed, banning muslims from entering the u.s., building a wall, making mexico pay for it on the border, et cetera. is this what you would suggest he do had he hired you to advise him? >> well, he's not leaving much to the imagination here, jake.
i mean, he's going right at the core issues. he's run his campaign on this. he's been very clear. if you look at his ad, it's actually a piece of marketing mastery. the word trump, letter trump, messaging is all trump. whether or not you agree with the substance, this is a clutter buster. and it's interesting i just before came on i looked at the $2 million buy he placed. he put $1.1 million in iowa and about $800,000 in new hampshire. iowa tv costs about 25% as much as it does in new hampshire right now, so he's clearly it's a very clearly defined message and aiming a pretty significant buy to the people of iowa trying to make a case. >> yeah, the media market is boston for new hampshire. >> it costs about -- yeah, he bought about $800,000 worth of television in tv, radio and cable in new hampshire and about $1.1 million in iowa about three hours ago. >> quick question for you about bernie sanders and the challenge. he's still there. he raised almost as much money as hillary clinton did in the last quarter. both of them more than any republican who's announced how
much they've raised at least. and obviously still very competitive in new hampshire, not too far behind in iowa. does she still have a potential problem here? >> he's run a fantastic race, bernie sanders, i think. a lot of enthusiasm for him. he has raised a lot of money. almost as much as she has, which is incredible, right? >> yeah. >> i think he has a problem after new hampshire. i think he has a problem in super tuesday states. he hasn't really reached out or penetrated the african-american vote, the hispanic vote. >> he's tried. >> he's tried but he hasn't and that's going to be a problem for him. so hillary clinton could lose iowa, could lose new hampshire, but i think she'll be in pretty good shape after that. >> all right. patti, phil, thanks so much for joining us. happy new year. thanks for joining us first show of 2016. coming up, new jihadi john, latest isis video features an english speaking executioner threatening the west. who is he?
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